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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2024
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•2 guns 1 cup challenge. I already filed to patent the term. So to the larger platforms sitting in the closet peeking and not subscribing and stealing I'll sue 😉
•And no I'm not talking about P.S
•Me and P.S are cool 😎
•See I don't even need to yell out or type out the name of the channel to try to gain their algorithm. I do my own damn thing and stay in my own lane.
SOUNDS LIKE A COOL DEAL TO ME,"THE CHAMP IS HERE"THAT VEVOR AIN'T NO JOKE BOY,I SAY BOY,EVERYBODYELSE BETTA WHATCH OUT BOW,SEE Y'ALL DIDN'T EVEN SEE THE PUNCH COMIG,VEVOR BOY
@@lesliwells5433 😂😂
SHOW NUF TRIGGA,THAT VEVOR HIT THAT BLACK WIDOW SO HARD AND MADE HIM SWIVEL AROUND
@@lesliwells5433 K.O 👊🏼👊🏼
Yo Trigz, hope to see more of these 2 girls, I mean, guns, one cup videos. 👍😂
Whaaaat man how do you guys know about that? Guess I'm not the only Dirty fker out here 😂😂
But yea on a serious note. That's gonna be our new thing here 2 guns 1 cup. So when you guys want to know about a certain gun comparison we're going to call it 2 guns 1 cup. Patented by the triggerman 😎😎
I could be wrong, but the ones that complain about the length of the videos are the Gen Z or the inexperienced painters. People like me (born in 79) and was taught in a technical high school (Auto Body Repair and Refinishing) from 95-98, worked in a few body shops and been doing it independently for the past 10 years, I enjoy the heck out of the long videos. I'm in no rush. If you're watching the videos, you apparently have nothing else to do, so sit back, relax, and learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2. Or Triggerman, you can do what some youtubers have done, and that is to have a second channel that you can upload the extended uncut, unedited version of the videos. Just my opinion
I was in trade school in 96-97 too, Now that is a good idea 💡 🤔🤔 a second channel 💡and you're right it is the younger crowd, probably because they got porn hub on in another tab and trying to bounce back n forth. 😏
Lol, social media has rotted their minds, attention span of 0.7secs
@@Izzy323x correction 0.4 seconds 😱😂
@@thetriggerman954We watchin the whole trig video before we switch back to the hub around here 😤
@@Gzus.mobbin just make sure you hit that like button before your hand gets sore 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Man it doesn't get any more transparent than that. I've never seen a video done that way with one cup that eliminates all doubt. Excellent demonstration and finish. Showing the wear and tear on the vevor shows you do use the gun. I dont know you personally but i feel confident in taking your word on spray guns or even materials that you recommend. Thank you for this video Trigger man.
Thank you Sir, I I'm sure you'll see it now that I've done it. I have a little stalking gnat so you'll definitely see it done after this. I try to be extra transparent with you guys. ❤️
Triggerman be slanging that paint like a artist !
Thank you my man. Tricasso 😂❤️💪🏼
Dude you paint like a boss! These cars looking like they dripping still! You know how to mix paint and you know how to adjust gun. Plus you hold the gun in an optimal distance. Im gonna subscribe to your channel. I love it
Thank you sir and welcome to the channel 💪🏼❤️
You did good on this one Trigger. both guns did good too.
Thank you sir 🫡
Great video, Thanks!
You bet! Thank you for watching
RIP Carl Weathers! Action Jackson was the best.. and that beautiful impala and can't forget about Vanity! ❤
Yeah man for sure RIP #legend. And don't be mentioning my wife Vanity 😭
Great video trigger . This just confirms what’s going on with many products in many industries today. The more expensive products give a better build quality most of the time, but not always. This being said it doesn’t justify the rip off prices these companies charge, when it’s 900% more expensive but it’s not 9 times a better quality product. This will carry on as long as there are numpties out there that keep buying them for stupid money.
Yea man $100 spray gun vs $1,000 spray gun yes one has built up a reputation but geesh at the end of the day they all are getting the job done.
This is good work you've done for us. I think for the guy who sprays every couple of years, you can't beat harbor freight. It's right there, got all the accessories on the shelf next to it, no waiting, and being a slower gun, gives us a little less rushed feeling.
A little less rush feeling and less chances of getting a run 😭🫡
Awesome comparison Triggerman. I've used the vevor and it flowed out flawlessly and I purchased the black widow about a week ago. Haven't used it yet but per your recommendation I might check out that porphis 717 later down the line or just buy it and put it up. I have gotten better painting everything from Mercedes to infiniti with awesome results with your help. Going to watch this video!! Keep doing what you do for us and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and expertise 🙏🏽
Thank you Eddie, and you're more than welcome man. Glad the videos are helping and glad you're getting better at painting. It's a great feeling when a job comes out good 🥳🥳🥳🥳🍻🍻
vary awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In my line of work , fiberglass boat repair and home renovation its a vary seldom that i get to spray paint, roll tip most times.. It vary nice to see i can buy a reasonable priced gun just like these and be confident that i can get the result. Have not sprayed them in years only to repaint my own cars Junkers its a bit expensive out here in the middle of the pacific ocean so getting all the life out of the cars is essential to more life less work. Car payments never had one , In the 29 years driving spent less than $50,000.00 in cars and trucks , taking on a paint job on a car is a passage for a man or woman its empowering. This is getting me ready in my head to spray some of the parts like cabins and hulls on the boat side and paint my good old ford 150 scab v six standard 2004 heritage 2 wheel drive she is at 210,000 miles i put 120,000 on it myself i am the third owner. Have two more part trucks its time to put the good body parts on and repaint . thank you for the amazing interment and sharing the knowledge.. Keep those triggers hot.. Kauai hawaii .
Fiberglass boat repair is no joke. I went to vocational school for that but I couldn't keep up. The fiberglass was killing me 🤣 itchy itchy so I took up autobody instead. Let's get those junkers painted my man 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Wow I found your channel and let me tell you I wish you 100k sub super quick ! new subscriber I keep learning everyday I really like your technique I hope is not much to ask , if you can make a more detailed video about pressure how you set up your gun and stuff like that, thanks again!
Sure I will ad that my list of videos. Most videos I do are things that you guys request so I have a list that I go down and knock them out one by one so I'll definitely add this into the list. And thank you for the kind words. Have a blessed weekend my man 💪🏼😎
Wow Trig two guns one car = smashing results! Doesn’t matter what your spraying with you get the results! 👍👊💪
Right on my man. 💪🏼🥳 Thank you
I have been watching your videos since the first one. You are a skilled painter. Jobs always look great. I have been rocking Devilbiss air pressure regulators for 20 years. Haha since I had my Finish Line spray gun, the cheap $80 one from finish master.
Thank you Travis I appreciate your support from day one. Man I had that finish line set that they used to sell at finishmaster was like a full-size gun and a mini gun I think they lasted me a year but I was always on devilbiss since back then. We still get paint from finish master few times a month ❤️💪🏼
@@thetriggerman954 haha yes. Sliver. Aluminum cup. Best part of the kit was the air regulators.
Great job comparing those 2 gun's..i e had the black widow and didn't like it..not enough material..sold it on offer up...I will STRONGLY RECOMMEND the astro evo-t gold gun in 1.3 or 1.4. it's my absolute favorite gun..lays down glass and its putting out alot of material..made in Taiwan so you know it's high quality..not Chinese like all spectrum guns.. anyway get your hands on one your going to love it..
I did a few videos on the Astro blue gun and it was pretty good. Never tried the gold one 🤔
Loved Carl Weathers. He was class.
Definitely 🙏🏼
First and foremost, you are a very gifted paint and body man. You did an amazing job smashing that base and clear down. I actually need a new clear gun. Good to know what I should go with. Thank you!!
Thank you for your kind words I appreciate it. Can't go wrong with either gun. But that Vevor for $89. Can't beat it 💪🏼
THANK YOU SO MUCH @TriggerMan!!! I was wondering what your opinion was about these 2 guns!!! I'm the 229th person to watch your video today!!! I really appreciate your videos, your comedy and your professionalism! Just know you are appreciated! I'm not a Car Painter, I'm a DIYer, but your opinion is valued brother! keep it up!
Thank you Stephen for the kind words, means a lot brother I'm glad you're enjoying the videos and glad they're helping. ♥️🫡
So I have to update my experience with the vevor gun. I purchased that back last summer when you first started promoting it. I dont need any new guns, I have enough but I had a $100 gift card burning a hole in my pocket. I initially tried it with the 1.7. It spit and sputtered all over the place while trying to shoot primer. I normally just toss a gun like that if its a cheap chinese POS, but I just put it in the cabinet. Well last night I had to clear some parts and it caught my eye when I opened the cabinet. I decided to grab it and see if I could figure out wtf was wrong with it since I watched this video earlier in the day. Turns out there was a seal missing on the 1.7 fluid tip that was still on the 1.3. I cleaned the gun, installed the 1.3 and holy balls does this gun smash through the clear! I do all custom/resto work so I typically only spray high high solids clear. This gun atomized it so well! I am definitely surprised by this one!
You see you see Triggerman won't BS the people. It's really a decent gun especially for the money. I'm not just making these vids for shits n giggles the gun performa well for $89. And I use the hell out of it. And I haven't even taken it apart to clean it 😂 But that's good man I'm glad it's working for you congrats on smashing that clear 💪🏼😎
Thank you for this comparison. I'm going to add a vevor to the arsenal 😎
More than welcome my man 🤜🏼🤛🏼 thank you for tuning in 🫡
I only have the black widow HTE and couldn't be happier,, all spectrum guns used the standard spectrum HTE for 20 paint jobs base and clear before I got the widow and did good, it's my base coat gun now and the widow is all clear , in my 14 x 24 foot booth I wouldn't want anymore overspray the vevor looks to have
The black widow is an awesome gun so it's all good. You're still a winner with it
@@thetriggerman954 l just got into trigger, was a designer builder all my life a carpenter by trade building home's, started out as a mechanic, l really worry about breathing all the paint fumes and not nearly doing the spraying your doing, you ever thought about a fresh air system?
@@georgespangler1517 I have the fresh air system. 3M versa Flow. I just prefer to use my full face mask and use top of the line 3M filters and I change them weekly. Stay protected.
Triggerman the truth has spoken! 😊
I can tell the vevor put out more material just by how fast you were moving compared to the blackwidow.
Much much faster lol 😂 🏃🏼♂️💨💨💨
I got here late, so my comment's legitimacy might be in question, but I'm gonna die on this hill and all BW fans be damned. My pick was the Vevor just on the fact that it puts out more fluid while still achieving good atomization. I say this with the DIYer in mind as most of us aren't doing spot repairs and blend work. We're doing mostly full resprays and more than likely using inexpensive clears that may not flow well or stay open long. As such, you need to get the mils on to level out without using too much slow reducer or retarder hindering getting out of dust soon to avoid further nibs. Besides... it's easier to learn to speed up your passes or turn down a fast gun than it is to rush a slower gun. Not to mention the price difference. Vevor wins! Flame away.. IDGAD
OAN... you killed it, Bruh! Excellent comparison video!
"taking a bow" BossHawg in TMF house with the excellent breakdown as usual. Man I need to make you a Chanel moderator or something once I figure this whole thing out. You be on point Fr Fr. Yea Vevor took the title you're absolutely correct 💯 😎
Thank you for watching 🫡 bless up ✊🏼
My vote is vevor. I like that you show mess ups. That little guy is exactly what you said but people who aren’t painters will like to point it out. I just hand them the gun and tell them to try it. lol Other channels don’t really show mess ups very often if ever..
Yeah if I don't show the mess ups then when the guys learning the trade mess up they think they're really screwing up a little do they know every single painter on RUclips gets these screw ups more often than not we're human or not robots in the factory so if a guy that's learning screws up he won't feel so bad and be discouraged cuz he'll know it happens to all of the great painters. Showcasing your paint as if it's flawless every single time at the TV show It's not reality and it doesn't help the average guy trying to learn, which is why a person would lack confidence when going into this trade. 😉
Video just started for me. I think advantage Vevor because u sprayed it so much. But I've seen some good results on that HF gun, too.
Damn. Gonna say Black Widow. Now back to the video. I didn't peek Trigger!
Good. Big Bear plays fair 😁
The best comparison video to date, it starts here.. I knew it was Vevor, they got some good stuff. I just got some of their sound deadening mat/ mass barrier, like dynamat kilmat.. Best deal on price, perfect product. Really made my door speakers come alive on the F150, the door panel is quite when you tap on it now too.
Im about to order their skimming blades for drywall mud/ compound, 36 inch blade, 1 pass like glass.
I also got a hydraulic for a dump truck from them & it was perfect, & half the price of others.
Man seems like that company is making everything they email me about doing a video on the strangest shit I'm like no thank you lol
@@thetriggerman954 Vevor is just an importer. They source the best product overseas & label it Vevor. Their skill is finding the best product for the lowest price.
Great comparison. Well made video. The comedy is great as well 👍
Thank you Richard ❤️💪🏼 Glad you enjoyed it!
Great Job/Video Trigger ❤👌💪🔥👍🏻💯
Thank you 😁 glad you enjoyed
Similar results when u how to lay it down. I picked the vevor to win. Mainly based off of what i have seen u do already. I might be getting my first apprentice here soon. Gonna hook him up with the vevor gun. Cheers trigger
Oh that's cool, a Vevor would be good for a newbie, just keep that fluid turned in for him as I'm sure you already know.
Thank you brother for the continued support. Hope your apprentice works out 🤞🏼
You are killing the content my man… keep up the good work
Thank you Grant, got a nice one in the line up where I talk about that OH my Clear " in think it's dropping next week. I'll have to confirm with my staff 😂😂😂
Thank you again Grant I appreciate you brother 💪🏼❤️
@@thetriggerman954 I appreciate your support
I tried the Vevor and the one I got was junk. Maybe it was a fluke but the gun body was cast crooked and the cup sat sideways. The 1.7 nozzle leaked. The fan was off too. Ive been using an Ntools 4000B that I got off aliexpress for $50 and its real nice. Built well, nice spray pattern, and nice cup. I thought about getting the BW but I think its overpriced for what it is. I also have Iwatas and this Ntools gun sprays just as good
Yeah sounds like you got a junk one You should have purchased it from my link they know when guys purchase the vivo through my link they come already tuned up and ready for excellence 😉 The Ntools spray pretty good as well
Geeze; I have not even opened the two Black Widows that I just bought after watching your demo's.😂🤣😂🤣
The gun is still bad ass. You'll love it. Vevor only won because you can almost by 2 for the price of the BW. So you're still a winner 💪🏼
Still use a devilbis compact in a 1.4 on a regular basis for 2k direct gloss and it was manufactured in 2007 looks a bit worn out but boy it still lays a nice coat nice vid trigg 😊😊😊
You're using the O.G 🫡
Man Action Jackson! Carl was the man! Dude was an excellent actor. I always thought he did better in Predator than Arnold. He is and will be missed! Legend!🙏
Action Jackson was the shizznit. Yea man he was awesome. I don't know if he bear Arnold though that's a tough one 🤔😂
I like the astro euro pro, my gun of choice for cheap but use vevor 2 pint pot for frames.
I have videos on that gun. That's in more of the little league in my opinion. To slow for my liking but if it works good for you that's all that matters. 💪🏼
@thetriggerman954 I just do my own stuff in my garage so I am little leage at this point and that's ok for me. I like it because it's nice and smooth to use. But yes if I were to step it up I would definitely go with something better.
Yea Bro i gotta agree with ya I like the way Vevor sprays.
Yoooooo what up man, yes it's good for the budget category. But we both know you use nothing but the best mister LIMITED EDITION 🕺🏼🕺🏼 😂😂
(I'm posting my guess at 4:47) Vevor. My reasoning behind it is that I believe the manufacturer stated that the Black Widow 2.0 is recommended for clear, but you could use it for anything. Now that I just thought about it, Black Widow 2.0 may have a slight edge, based on that. Overall, Vevor may out sell based on its price point and high-quality results. It's a toss-up. I would probably use Vevor for Primer and Base and Black Widow 2.0 for Clear.
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Hard one to call Trigger, I bought that vevor after your 1st video on it. But Ive always liked the blackwidow😬
You can't go wrong with either one I personally like the black widow color scheme better it just looks different stands out more but at the end of the day it's about to finish they put out and that's pretty much neck and neck
I’m 3min in the video I been spraying with vevor for 2 months at my aviation job, vevor undefeated even put it over my dv1 clear gun 😅
Over the DV1 dayuuum son 😱😱 did y'all hear that. Tell em James 🏆
I personally like them both and thinking about adding them both to my arsenal
Cant go wrong
What a great video ... like this style ... how do you think the Vevor would do with single stage paint? keep your finger on the trigger ...
I've painted like 10 single stage jobs with it, it does great. Just have to turn the fluid in a half a turn and all good. Glad you like the video and the style we're going to call it 2 guns 1 cup. So when the flying gnat takes the idea know where you seen it first 😅
Trigger there is no difference in the paint job. You just talented bro. You painting these cars and they coming out like glass bro.
Say what? With middle of the road materials? Old dirty booth? Cheap spray guns? 🤔 Ain't no way. America's got talent 🥳❤️ 😂😂
I'm a amateur shitty painter. I purchased the BW and it helped me cut down on my runs. The Vevor is probably better in a pro's hand. I'm getting better though watching the Trigger Man!
That's good man. Glad you're getting better. And glad I could help be apart of your journey ❤️💪🏼🍻
Well there certainly isn't no trickery with Mr Triggery😁see what I did there😎🙄don't worry about the length of the videos brother as if they are longer then we get to watch and learn even more👏
Beautiful finish from both guns there Trigger and there was no difference between the two finish wise, I thought the winner might have been the Black Widow as I've seen more videos on this gun and it always gets great feedback, only thing I think with the Vevor is the quality as good but you have been using it a lot and so far it's held up really well👌
Great video Boss and a great idea for testing two guns side by side, love the content and very professional editing 10/10 from me👌🙏👍John UK
Thank you John your feedback is greatly appreciated. So now if you ever see the " 2 guns 1 cup" review you know who patented the idea 💡 it's hard to keep your own style on RUclips. Lol I know a lot of painters say the gun is still holding up but they never use the gun so of course it's holding up, like a new car sitting in the garage 😏
Thanks again John always appreciate you watching 💪🏼❤️
Yes mate you better get that patented PDQ and register it as " 2 guns 1 cup"😆I'm loving your channel Trigger as it's pretty unique for spray painting as you make it fun to learn and you always explain every step which makes it easier💪👏👍
@@JohnWD40TC02 thank you John, that's good to know. I tried to balance it with a little humor and learning but not give overkill on the humor It seems like it has been a good balance most guys are enjoying. Thank you for your feedback is always appreciated. Have a blessed weekend John ❤️
First, I'd like to say you do beautiful work. Second, except for your honesty, you can't tell there's any trash in the clear. Third, I commend you for not trying to hide the fact that you got a little "flow indicator" on the bumper cover. I had some keyboard warrior argue with me that pro painters NEVER get sags or runs. I politely told him he was full of 💩 but he just said I was no pro. They obviously never sprayed one car, let alone nearly fifteen thousand. Keep laying down the mils, my brother in paint.
Thank you Dave, I appreciate that. I always show the imperfections When you hide things and then you try to make it seem like every job comes out perfect It really just discourages the guys trying to learn this trade I think that's reality so teaching this you have to put aside your pride show the good with the bad I don't know a single painter that does not get runs. It comes with the territory just like dirt in your paint job It comes with the territory. I can tell you have experience and what's more important real life experience. Thank you again for your comment You are greatly appreciated ♥️🤜🏼🤛🏼
3m Performance vs vevor 🎉
I told his girlfriend my dood! 😎 🤣 Hell yeah! You killed it again triggermane. Always keeping it real too 💪 respect homie. Dam I wish I lived closer. I'd done have a trigger man paint job fo sure. I'ma try to not mess my shit up. Only thing good is I can't really make it worse lmao it's already bad 😢sanding sanding sanding and prepping x100 😂
Thank you Josh have to keep it real it's all I know. If you were closer I'd teach you to paint your own car. 💪🏼😎
Will Lacquer thinner hurt the exterior of the Black Widow to clean it with?
Nope that's what I clean the gun with. Doesn't affect the gun externally or internally
Dope vid trig I would honestly take whatevers cheaper they were pretty close in finish might put out more material but so does a ws400 lol vevor ftw
4sho that's my thoughts exactly 💯 thank you Andrew 💪🏼
@@thetriggerman954 🙌🏼
That’s crazy brother. I thought the black widow was going to take this one man. Would you say that porphis snokes the vevor? Waiting on a bigger job with that one man . Question bro, are you pulling the trigger all the way when you have it set to full fan and fluid?
When I set a gun to full fan full fluid yes I pulled the trigger all the way That's the purpose of setting the gun to full fluid because that particular gun needs to be sprayed at full fluid on this Vevor Gun I only have the fluid turned out two and a half turns and I pulled the trigger all the way. If I sprayed that gun at full fluid I would have 30 runs in that job. After years of experience I can spray a gun with the full fluid and only used partial trigger pull but that comes with decades of experience for someone learning this trade it's best to set the fluid where you want it then pull the trigger fully.
Brother a job like this how long does it take you to do in the booth? and what is a excepted time to be in booth? Would love to know more of your insight of things like that, how long a job will and should take
This color took more coats than normal, so it would be a little longer. From the time I start spraying sealer until last coat of clear. Probably 1.5-2 hours all together. Including all flash times
I have the Vevor..iam scared of Harbor Frieght guns..run ur ANI F160 against them..Good Job
So the Vevor against the F-160?
2 guns 1 cup challenge?
Great job Trigga, hey what sealer do you use?
I have two different sealers in my booth I have a 1K and a 2K both are made by pro spray same brand as the paint system we use.
Hey Trigger, quick question. Do you blend your sealer edges? I'm a newbie so not sure if it's needed? Thanks for the knowledge. Appreciate you!
Hey bro Good question. Yes I normally blend out my sealer edges to make a soft edge You always want to do that when you have the space.. sometime s you don't always have that option with tight blends. I actually had the room on this job and I didn't so this was actually a poor technique on my part Just doing the video trying to swap spray guns moving the camera sometimes I'm not 100% focused on the job but that's definitely a good question and you definitely should blend out your edges so you don't have a hard line. 💯💪🏼
2 guns 1 cup hahahaha trigger man you are crazy brother
You remember that? I'm sure most won't get it. 🤭
@@thetriggerman954how could we forget about that lol. But anyways, your creativity when it comes to work and naming never ceases to entertain me, keep up the good work brother!
@@spacegodmurder lmao thanks man. Just trying to create my own lane and do my own thing. Glad you enjoy them 💪🏼
Yes 😂😂😂😂
Great video my man! 💯
Thank you DJ 💪🏼💯
I would like to repaint my front bumper on my semi and the frame of my truck. What would you recommend for that? I've never painted seriously like that. But i know dam, well, i can do it. What would be the recommended air compressor I'd need, etc? Any help is appreciated! Like the spray gun that is in the link for this video that would work, right? I need to strip the bumper and send it down smoothly. Prime, then paint it?
Yes The link in the description for the The Vevor spray gun I will be able to give you better details if you could take pictures send it to me on IG but if it's a metal bumper depending on how bad it is if it's really bad sand it all the way down to the metal epoxy prime it stand your primer then go ahead with your base coat then clear coat you can do it all with the one spray gun. If it's just a one-time thing a small 20 gallon air compressor should be fine. Maybe even use an electric sander most of the air pressure needed will be on the sanding , prep work.
@@thetriggerman954 fiberglass bumper, if that helps
@@MrMan-ol4ic ohh yeah gotta be a bit more cautious with fiberglass, nothing to aggressive. Maybe 220 down until all uniform. 2k primer, seal if you want then base and clear. That Vevor spray gun comes with a 1.7 and a 1.3 set so you can prime your bumper with the 1.7 then swap out the needle nozzle cap for the 1.3 to spray your base and clear coat so three guns in one.
@thetriggerman954 I appreciate it 🙏. Keep on spraying, brother !!!
@@MrMan-ol4ic anytime 💪🏼
No Trickery here Triggerman 💪🏾 Be cool Brad 😂 we love Sagola too 🤘🏾 Another 🔥 Job 💯
The Champ in the house 😎 yea Brad be ready to kick you from the top ropes, Rick Flair style 🤪 thanks for chiming in Champ 🏆 💯👊🏼
@@thetriggerman954 😂😂😂
I'd have to say the Black Widow 2.0 did a better job. The Vevor I noticed had more orange peel in the finished job than the BW 2.0 so that in itself is a time and money saver.
They both look exactly the same to me. Not sure how not having peel is a time saver most vehicles we paint come from the factory with some peel maybe you're just a super awesome painter and you spray all glass every time you pull a trigger 😎 If that's the case I salute you my man 🫡
@thetriggerman954 wow bro you really went there and attacked me huh? Slow your roll there little homie! I never said a word about your painting, it was about the guns so I think you need to chill guy. Maybe go back and read my comment again huh? And of course every paint job comes with some orange peel, but between the two guns, the BW 2.0 looked like a flatter and less of an orange peel paint job to me. Never once did I say a word about you or your painting skills so you can stop with the bs with me. If the Vevor is that precious to you that you can't accept honest constructive criticism about the gun (not you) then maybe turn the comments off huh?
I think you might be mistaken. Production painting is about MATCHING peel so the car maintains the OEM look. This means glass flat clear is NOT always the objective, in fact, rarely. It's actually harder to match peel than it is to lay glass. From different domestic peel, Japanese, to European cars... all have different levels/types of peel. For glass... turn up the pressure, hammer it on, or even choose a particular clear designed for level of flow. Oversimplified, but I think you get my point.
TBH, being able to see the level of peel on each side in this particular video was quite hard. It was mostly pointed out how the hood was flatter, which is how most paint jobs turn out. Owning about 7 guns from budget to legendary (opposite of a bragging point TBH), I can honestly say the BW is way overpriced. I can get a BNIB R500, slap on a copycat Iwata LV2 cap & my choice of tips from 1.2 to 2.0, all for less, and it will sh!t all over the BW in fluid output control and atomization.
Hey Trigger. Where can I get the Vevor spray gun? I,m looking to paint soon.
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What do you recommend for us small compressor fans???
If you can afford it LPH400 would be the best spray gun on the market for small compressors. But if not then something like one of those R500 spray it spray guns.
Vevor has much nicer spray in my opinion.
🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 I thought it would be the Black Widow!!! I am shocked the Vevor won! I already bought the Vevor, I use it on woodworking, and it does put out a lot of material for me too. I was not prepared for it, but it does look better than my LVLP r500. I did my own test with the 2 I have, and it was a noticable difference on my project. I was thinking about buyint the BW, but now... maybe not!
They are both pretty good. Just the cost makes more sense to me to get the vevor especially if they spray the same finish with the same amount of effort
for the HTE black widow gun, I have a 5 horsepower 25 gallon tank compressor, How many CFMs does that gun need. Will my compressor be able to supply enough consistent air to make the gun spray correctly. My compressor works very well with HVLP guns. Not sure of its CFMs. Oh, and I have another concern, I clean my current guns with Lacquer thinner inside and out. Will Lacquer thinner hurt the outside of the Black Widow. Can I clean it that way, or is their something else I should do. I am definitely going to buy a Black Widow gun, not sure if I can use the HTE, or should I go with the HVLP Black Widow: do they produce different results??? What Vevor Model gun was that in this vid.
I think the BW is 11.7 CFM. You should be able to do small repair jobs with that compressor. The vevor is the HVLP model
@@thetriggerman954You didn't answer my question about Lacquer thinner cleaning the Black Widow exterior. will that work or hurt it?
@@Saunders64 thinner will not hurt the gun. I cleaned the gun internal and externally and it's fine.
Vevor put out as much material as the DV1 WC2 cap? Cus that DV1 puts out the material
DV1 puts out material? 😏 No way Jose. That is the slowest gun on the market for a reason. And that's because it doesn't put out much material. Yes it has one of the best finishes out today but that finish comes at a cost and that cost is speed it's a slow gun. That's why I don't even use it. It's at home in the closet
Awesome video! ❤
Glad you liked it!! 💪🏼
hey triggerman, you crazy or what? nobody sprays a car half and half with different guns, unless it's going to the junk yard, what's up with that man? no I'm just kidding you. As soon as I heard wearing silver trunks you got my thumbs up.
I'm kinda crazy, but the meds keep me stable 🤪 no one sprays different guns in one car unless they know what they are doing and can make it work 😉
I've seen people on RUclips paint cars with house Wagner type spray guns so I'm sure I can get a pass for this. Sometimes you have to be a bit extreme to get the message across 💪🏼
Thank you Rob I appreciate you chiming in ❤️
oh i had to eat my words, the finish in the sun is fantastic.
@@rob12449 lmao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 questions Triggerman..... First EXCELLENT paint job as always. I can't see the difference in their performance except for the run. Do you think if you shot the front facia with the Black Widow that you would have gotten that run? Both seamed to look like they were putting out the same overspray but the Vevor looked like it had a nicer fan. Harbor freight is offering 2 Black Widow 2.0 guns the HTE and the HVLP are they the same guns with different marking to trick you into buying both guns?
As I said before I have painted with conventional old school Devilbiss guns since 1990 and never used HVLP although I own 2 GFG Devilbiss HVLP J-96 guns that I bought on Ebay as back up guns over 10 years ago that say "10 HVLP C7" on the cap I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE "10" is equivalent to?
If the Vevor puts out more paint it still must put out 10 - 20% more than the conventional 30 tip Devilbiss GFG gun I am using right? I just HATE runs. Have you ever used "conventional" 30 tip old school guns? I imagine they are illegal in Florida. If the Vevor does get 10 -20% greater transfer of paint to panel than my conventional gun it should make my run problem worse? Maybe having more overspray "paint bounce off" lessens the chance of runs?
Any way I almost always get 1 or 2 in every paint job with my conventional gun. I think for the money I will have to buy both the Vevor and the Black Widow but which black Widow? The HET or the HVLP? And later on if I can make the adjustment from conventional to HVLP I will buy the Porphis PRD-717 VS TYPE and give it a try or maybe just buy it now? Thanks again for another GREAT video!
Getting runs is part of being a painter. I've never met a painter that didn't get runs so it happens with any gun. I would have gotten that same run using the Black Widow so much crap going through my head trying to make these videos switching over spray guns on the same canister, moving the camera, So it's not like I was 100% concentrating on this job. I've never used that 30 tip that you're talking about I've used many old school conventional spray guns but that does not sound familiar to me. The Black Widow that I know about that everyone uses is the HTE I transfer efficiency sounds like that would be more suitable for your style than the HVLP version
@@thetriggerman954 I hear you Triggerman, I have mad a few mistakes making RUclips videos myself. I think you're right I will give the Black Widow a try. If I don't like it I can always return it. But it will be almost like starting all over.👍
@@ricksteelcustoms3196 good luck brother keep me posted and let me know what you think 💪🏼🍻
@@thetriggerman954 Will do and I will stay tuned! Thanks Triggerman. Hopefully I to will one day be a wizard like you with the HTE. I have a white Honda civic that needs a facia and a hood respray I already have the factory paint code Metalux base and Clear. That paint too will be a first, as I have never used Metalux. I will make a video on my first experience with the HTE. Thanks again Triggerman!
@@ricksteelcustoms3196 oh yeah that would be awesome I'll check it out when you put it up. Good luck bro 🍀🤞🏼
Good video brother 👍
Thank you glad you enjoyed it 😎💪🏼
This is the real deal, go triga!!
Say it loud 📢📢📢 for the suckers in the back row. Thank you Cesar 🫡😎
Someone told me they use reducer to blend their sealer edges. I haven’t tried it though.
Then try it. I've never done it and don't plan to. Maybe they use rough sealer or maybe they don't spray sealer correctly or maybe that's a water-based thing I don't know It's nothing that was never taught to me I see it on "TikTok"
@@thetriggerman954 might be a water based thing. He did say he used water based.
Do you use am tech clear on everything, is it a good clear?
Yes I use it on 90% of my jobs only jobs I don't use it on is if there's something that's a rush job and has to go in like 30 minutes which I don't use too often it's not even in my spray booth. The AmTech clear is a good clear coat It's a 2:1 clear so higher solids than a 4:1 clear. I painted the clear for 11 years I haven't had one car come back with peeling or faded clear cars have come back for other damage but nothing that I have needed to repaint. It's not as good as some of those $700-$1,000 clear coats but for the price I feel it's great. You don't need reducer to make it flow out what you see is what you get.
OK good to hear. Thank you so much and keep up the great work. Also, the vevor gun is one that you would recommend right
@@raffihernandez532 they both are really good guns. The vevor is just cheaper and it's lated me 8 months with weekly use so that's really the only reason. But they are both good guns for the piece range
Well, I think you will pick the Black Widow, but now IDK
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Where are you located? I want to get my old Audi A4 painted. Lmk and let's see if we can get something going
I'm in Pompano Beach Florida
TRIGGERMAN, TRIGGERMAN, TRIGGERMAN, SU,SU,SU,YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THE VEVOR GAVE THE BLACKWIDOW A BLACK EYE,how is that possible, if the black widow had a black eye, how could you see it 😅😅😅😅😅haha
😂 yeah man I had to give the Vevor the title 🏆
Red and Black Attack!!!
Faaaaa show 💪🏼😎
Next level brother. Great stuff. Im impressed by the simplicity of the demonstration brother. I personally like the base fan on the Black Widow but for everything ekse its the Vevor. Love the vid my man, keeing it real 💪😉😎
Thank you Cocko, can't get any more simpler than that. Something for the newbies less confusing, let them make their own decision. 💪🏼♥️
@@thetriggerman954 absolutely brother, loved the idea and execution. Have a fantastic weekend my man 😎
@@cocko1135 you too my man. Stay blessed ❤️
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Vevor seems faster and better for a larger job. That's my bet
Definitely, I knocked out a singlstage Toyota Tacoma in like 20 minutes with the Vevor 😂😅
Just think of how fast you could paint a vehicle if you used 2 guns and 2 cups at the same time!
I'd be dirty hairy 😂
Thanks
No problem 😎
Bruh - what tip you got in the vevor? 1.4?
1.3 cap,nozzle,needle
2 guns one cup 😂😂 I see what you did there 😅
🤫 shhhh nobody has to know 😉
😂😂😂😂😂 I honestly didn't think anyone would know. I thought I was the only sleeze ball 😱
Where's the link to the Vevor gun?
My bad I just added it to the video description too 👇🏼
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Be nice now i got that vevor !!!!
🤭 Vevor doesn't it's thing 😉
The vevor looks like a cannon... you can see the speed difference in your passes.
Yea man that's how I got that dam run switching guns like that 😂 not an easy task I tell you that took 2 hours to do a 30 minute job. But hopefully the guys appreciate it. 💪🏼
Yea man that's how I got that dam run switching guns like that 😂 not an easy task I tell you that took 2 hours to do a 30 minute job. But hopefully the guys appreciate it. 💪🏼
Looked good!!! That run... pffft just a dribble dribble. Needed buckets for the runs this dude was getting at my work.. killed me this week.
I'm going with the Vevor for the win by a nose.....
Let's see 👀
Ooh, got my popcorn ready 🍿
Enjoy my brother 😁
That Vevor is a pile Driver!
Undefeated 🏆
What # dekups adapter is the black widow fam?
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Thank god they fit the same canister
I put the same adapter onthe guns I have over 30 guns they all fit the same canister. 😉
@@thetriggerman954 I haven't bought this type of gun yet, but guess what I will be getting
@@frontlinemedia4270 🥳🥳🥳 show time
I’m going to try the fever again because it fucked this whole job up but it wasn’t the guns fault the regulator was devllbiss, it showed 20 but it was put in out 80,I’m gonna whip it out and try it again now that you gave me the settings fluid 2 out
Geesh it was putting out 80 psi You should have known something was wrong there You must have had extra extra fine atomization 😭😱 2 turns out from closed and you should be good Then if you want on your second coat or on top surfaces back out another half a turn lay it on there. Spray your clear at 30 psi not 20.
Black widow
Let's see 😉
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Trigger man the black widow 😊
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Black widow.
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I don’t know…I go with the black widow!
Soon as you said pricing considered , then I knew it was the vevor…smh!
😂😂😂😂 you agree or nah? For that reason alone I think it's a better buy.
@@thetriggerman954 word up! Also being the vevor puts out a lot of material, means it’s more adjustable! I get it!
@@dollabillbrunson8107 😉
Vevor for me
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