NON WOOTING KEYBOARDS ARE A WASTE OF TIME
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- At some point I stopped using my wooting60he and went down the rapid trigger gaming keyboard rabbithole. These cheap hall effect keyboards are not BAD but simply not worth considering if you have a wooting. Some minor things, software is really buggy with razer, polar65 typing angle was weird, KB65he rapid trigger made me so much worse at fortnite
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I dont know why I didn't plug in my wooting and come to this realization earlier.. sometimes in life you have to downgrade to appreciate what you had
Yo boardzy a question not related to the video, is the Deathadder V3 wired still worth it?
@@didaka8why wouldn’t it be?
@@olsaaan just asking does it still hold up like build quality and sensor
Oh, in that case, it's not good at all. It's the worst, in fact.@@didaka8
hey boardzy do u have any thoughts on drunkdeer g65
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I also have a wooting kb but I’ve heard that the polar 65 has a website software now and I wonder if you tested that out?
Did you ever try to do a firmware update on the EndGame gear? They released a Low Latency mode. Would love to know if it improved it.
I've been through a few different keyboards until I finally decided to go with the Wooting Two and I literally have not even considered another keyboard. It's just superior in every way to every keyboard I've had or tried
I can't decide between wooting or Huntsman v3. Practical performance and convenience ( 6-10 hrs per day) which should I choose? Others review that the Huntsman v3's switches are solid and have a very bouncy feel. Does it feel uncomfortable when used for a long time? compared to wooting
I so wish there would be an ergo keyboard option (or keypad) with these switches. Or a wireless Wooting.
but is it true that cheap he keyboard are same with red mechanical switch? or it does improve for fps games like valorant?
I just bought the apex pro mini wireless on sale and with a coupon for 144$ is that valid? I've had the k66 with gateron yellows for like over 3 years now..
Only honest issue with Wooting 60HE is I have to swap it out for a TKL for work; just need the 80HE or for Wooting just to wise up and give us Wooting TKL.
is the kb65he worth it as wooting isn’t available altogether where I live? or is it worth spending the extra money for an apex pro tkl?
I live far from the USA but which would be best just for fps? I have another silent keyboard to type on.
Can I change switches to Gateron Jade or Geonworks and keycaps to PBT.
Focus on performance first, then durability.
Drunkdeer A75 ($135)
AKKO MOD 007 PC 7 ANNIVERSARY ($125)
VXE ATK75 ($131)
VXE ATK68 ($108)
nice vid, what about the apex pro mini wireless? I'm just looking for a "good" sounding keeb that's meant for competitive gaming. Budget is 300$
Boardzy can you tell if you tried the polar65 with latest firmware is it still not there? Cause i just ordered it based on reviews about new firmware
what are your opinions on the drunkdeer g65 or a75?
does the razer huntsman mini analog also fit in with the clones or is it just ok?
Is the aerox 5 a good mouse? i for some reason like it better than my gpx lmao
Yo boardzy i know is kinda late video but have you ever tried drunkdeer keyboards? i wish you can do one review dad! 😞😞
Endgame gear had some firmware updates with a low latency mode.
Curious if it still feels like that?
Cheapest Wooting option for me is €212 (€55 shipping included), is it still worth it if it's literally twice as expensive as $100 options that are not even close to half as bad?
does anybody have a link to the keycaps on the white keyboard? they look so cool.
did you buy new lamzu keyboard?
i just got the endgame one, while i know its not a top performer, it feels really nice and i feel is the middle ground between magnetic switches and the custom keyboard experience. its sooo much better than the corsair board that i was using lol i dont mind that wooting is a little faster
"When I see artisan slander, that ruins my day." I felt this. haha keep doing the good work my man
That Wooting 80 He though. Cant wait, especially since the changes they made to it.
Yeah I plan to get it, seems really good even though the layout/design is weird
Brain dead layout to sell more shit.
@@boardzy they posted an update that they're fixing the layout but because of that its delayed for a while
@@ValJCI are you talking about the arrow keys getting shifter or them actually adjusting the entire design so it's compatible with most 80%/TKL cases? Because that's the main gripe I have with the 80HE. I just want the board and the switches and put it in a case of my choice, but I have never seen this weird ass layout before.
If only more people supported the goat format that is 75%...
you should buy the switches@@Fesititi
Would you be willing to test Kysona's latest AZTEC mouse?I heard it's about to be released soon.
Optimum tech's reviews that yes you are literally playing on 80ms less ping
Hello boards, thank you for the video that you make and for how you help people figure out difficult things and make the right choice, we really appreciate it!
Recently I decided to choose a new mouse pad for myself, but I came across such a variety that I got a little confused, and can you quickly advise me something from what you have in your memory
I play Valorant with very low\Low sense, with a game sleeve, aiming with arm. Viper V2 Pro+Tiger ice glider, I need pad with High stop power and medium\medium-high static friction, preferably white, but black is also possible
I was looking at the Saturn pro, but it looks like it has too little static friction, and it's more suitable for mixed gaming, because
In valorant, we just need to hold the corners and produce clear, hard, straight flicks, without tracking, because of this most valo pros still use old pads such as QCK Heavy and Zowie G-SR, but I'd like to choose something more modern, you don't know what might be suitable in this case
Thanks in advance!
before i watch the video, i want to say that it brings me joy to always see your videos on my timeline. thank you for doing this
Does anyone have the Akko 007B and Wooting? I'd like to know how they stack up against eachother.
Hey boardzy, I agree with the razer sound, it's terrible. Can I request a review on a new keyboard called "Boog 75" ? It's a new keyboard that sounds heavenly and has rt and adjustable actuation.
Will do
what about the Varmilo victory hall effect board... someone says it contests wooting
Have you tried the Boog75? I think you'll change your mind about the Wooting, or at least think it's on the same level
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
@Boardzy can you test the monsgeek m1 HE when its back in stock its 75% which imo is way better form factor and probably won't use same pcb as other copies
But did the Boog75 change ur opinion?
I was able to get the razer huntsman v3 pro TKL for 175. Is it worth selling this or returning it and ordering a wooting???
Nah bro he's exaggerating a bit unless you are a keyboard enthusiast it won't matter if you are thinking you are going to be better at a game buying the wooting you're not he's not even that good at Fortnite and he's saying it feels like he's playing on 20 less ping is funny
Can u try the boog 75 it would be intresting to see is it actually good as the wooting 60he
Have you tested VGN's ATK68 keyboard?
I fr clicked on this thinking this was a rant against custom keyboards
I couldve gone that route too
@@boardzythen the exorcism would occur
Hard to rant against custom keyboards when his wooting literally is a custom keyboard at this point lmao
Are you going to get the 80he?
I'm trying my first HE keyboard next week the boog75 I guess I'll see if they are any good
I just bought the endgame gear kb65he and im honestly surprised, that ur saying it just feels like "red swiches".. coming from akko macha greens, I can definetley tell a major diffrence in reaction time when the rapid trigger is setup correctley... But I wont be the one to judge, as I dont have a collection of high end keyboards as you have.
hey, can i ask ur setting for the rapid trigger as you said its good when setup correctly, cus mine feels sh*t sometimes
I understand that the wooting keyboards are just superior, but I'm looking for a TKL keyboard- or atleast a board with function keys, does anyone know what would be the best in that market?
apex pro tkl is the only good option really
maxfit70 bagus ga bang?
what makes it any better than the apex pro?
I can't really buy the Wooting since it's not really on my budget, would you recommend i buy the Drunkdeer G60? I don't really trust other hall effect Keyboards like the ATK68 or the Hz-61 from Yoozo. The G60 Is the only one that really caught my attention.
could you test the vgn atk 68? some jp youtuber places it at god tier alongside the wooting
I got SS apex tkl 2023, wooting 60he, endgame kb65he, and vgn atk 75. Overall I prefer the atk75 over the wooting since the 60% layout is a bit of pain to use, and atk performance does get close. The problem with steelseries is their switches are very wobbly, I can’t use cherry profile keycaps without problems, gotta stick to oem profile caps which has fewer options. Endgame board imo is garbage, I’m still waiting for the boog 75 to arrive, which I heard share the same core with vgn atk series board (which is a good thing). There is also a board called melgeek cyber01 which may worth checking out as well
Is the atk75 gasket mount? I heard rumors but wasn't sure
@@yhiz4757 yes it is gasket mount. it felt pretty good for especially for the price. the only problem is the switches felt over lubed, not too much of an issue tho
Anything on the AKKOMOD??
Was hoping to preorder Wooting 80HE last week, sadly they removed the count down and pushed the preorders to Q2..
Have you tried the polar 65 after the update? It's a lot better than before
Yeah, after doing research, and quickly going through a couple of keyboards that really weren't that good, I found the Wooting Two HE, and that's the only keyboard (along with Wooting in general) I consider worth a premium price. If you want cheap, get a keyboard that's upwards of $20, but if you want the best, it's only 10x more price, which is quite reasonable for this absurd market, for a keyboard that will last until keyboards as a technology are obsolete. It's the only keyboard I care about at all.
All that and the wooting still doesn’t have a 75% size
I get my wooting on Saturday this hyped me up so much
The reason I was thinking about the endgame is that Wooting only offers 60% but I need numbers, arrow keys and the extra buttons on the right for work
Try the SteelSeries Apex Pro line up. They have a TKL and full-size version.
Similar performance to the Wooting.
Wooting 80he is coming
can you try the durndeer g65?
I have been saying this.
The whole reason these keyboard exist is the idea of perfection, and so far the Wooting has been the only one to do it. I do hope the Lamzu Pro and Boog75 are close, as I would love to swap to the Boog75 because it is much like a custom keyboard with the benefits the Wooting.
From the reviews I saw BOOG75 performs more or less same as Wooting, whilst looking and sounding really good for a HE keeb. Lamzu looks like it will be mid tbh.
Also Boog 75 will have no software to download, which I love
rooting for boog75. there is also zoom65 v3 which has led screen and he module. pretty sick
can you make a review about boog75, a zoom75 keybs but has HE pcb
have you tried drunkdeer?
I'll preface this by saying I own two 60HEs. The limiting factor on most of these boards is firmware/software, and that can be easily fixed; they PCBs are all nearly identical, as is anything using a Gateron KS-20 based switch. They don't have the same limitation as optical boards.
Wooting has had a huge head start on developing the keyboard, but their manufacturing process still can't meet demand. The Chinese OEMs will get it down within a few revisions; we've already seen it in the custom keyboard space where they're pumping out sub-$100 boards that rival the sound and build quality of the $500 ones.
Yup I agree with this. I just felt the need to make this vid since a lot of people seem to think all HE boards are equal performance wise currently
I just installed the Gateron Jade switches (110pcs) last weekend in my otherwise stock Wooting Two HE. They´re lighter and have around 0.5mm less travel, but they sound way better thanks to the closed bottom and they come pre-lubed. They feel like they actuate faster at below 1mm travel, but that might just be the lighter springs that make it feel that way.
should i get the 60he or wait for the 80 he will there be a big difference?
Probably the 80he for the function keys. The 60he would be horrible for my coding work.
I just bought my wooting when that optimum video came out. Glad i didnt end up with regret lmao.
I think the thing is that people want good sound for cheaper. The wooting costs a lot of money to upgrade to the point that the polar65 sounds like, which sways some decisions.
What about the Steelseries Apex Pro? Is it a good alternative if you can't afford the Wooting?
That's what he said at the start
@@jerrytpl just noticed he mentioned it when I watched it again! Totally flew over my head. Thanks, man.
@@ayaken5972 all g, personally I think the SteelSeries is better because you can set macros but the wootin is better otherwise.
Is the wooting keyboard wireless?
waiting for the true 8k pulling on the Wooting 80HE and mod the shit out of it and main it until im 90
will u review the lamzu keyboard
would you review the Meletrix boog75 he?
is there a difference between endgame and wooting or do they feel same
EGG new firmware update made it quite quick I own both in reality it's a bit in a odd spot cuz if u have never tried HE before both boards will feel amazing but if u have before it's "interesting" as yes wooting is better but isn't £65 is avg price better so it's close but u shouldn't have a problem with either
Im waiting for the 80he. Assuming I can find an aluminum case to transplant it into. Even if you are a sound freak the wooting 60he is very moddable. you dont even have to sacrafice sound and feel
the polar has much newer firmware than the higround thankfully. They have released tons of updates unlike higround
Post ur wooting profile code?
Review the Drunken deer A75 PLEASEEEE its got halleffect and I need to know how it compares
got the polar cause of the holiday discount at 105 dollars its literally nuts
i only had to wait 2 weeks for my wooting, so it depends on when u order it but I highly recommend u save up for it and wait for it has gotten me from dia 3 peek to asc 2 peek in valorant
Wish they just made TKL model. I need those home, end keys. Going smaller than TKL doesn't save any space that matter as how full to TKL does though. I take it in time we'll see it.
But cool we're seeing new models over time. Also, what I dislike in more premium keyboards is gasket mount, feels cheap and just horrible to me, wish it was optional.
What would also be awesome is to see switch options with lower total travel and improved cap stabilization retaining MX design.
It's in the works.
theyre working on an 80%
@@Rymc hope so
@@OfficialFo if it's the current 80HE that one ain't it.
I'll buy a wooting if they make a 65% or 75% but im very close to buying the egg kb65e im in the egg discord and they did mention they're working on the firmware for a release latency update so if they manage that it'll be huge since stock it sounds better
Is wooting two he worth it, i want a full keyboard to use at work as well ?
If youre looking for full size yeah, used to use it a while back
@@boardzy Any notable difference in performance / speed etc etc compared to the 60HE+ ? I'm looking for a full size keyboard and undecided between the Apex Pro (full size) and Wooting 2HE
the drunkdeer a75 is pretty damn close though idk abt latency but it feels almost the same with the right settings
If a keyboard doesn't have Numpad is a pass for me. Can't use keyboard with almost half of it missing...
I thought the endgame gear is nearly the same performance with the wooting
I had the wooting and now i own the varmilo victory, and its so much better....
although i love my wooting, nowadays i mostly use my atk68 for the convenience of having arrow keys and not switching keebs between gaming and work
Please review drunkdeer a75 and akko 7th anniversary mod 007 pc
what about the drunkdeer? do u think it competes with wooting?
rank 2 osu player is using drunkdeer iirc, if that means anything to you
@@michael21-ou2yt i meant for like other uses aswell i know about akolibed, just asking for opinions on the comparison between the two
@@lmarcel then yeah, it has function row as well so ur not stuck with 60. can play more than just fps and the difference in latency is nothing that's noticable(if ur a human)
@@lmarcel also i had a wooting, sold it to a friend. wanting to get a boog75 rn, prolly if you wait for a while there will be a better board with better availability lol
@@michael21-ou2yt prolly gonna get the wooting 80 cause i need the arrow keys n function row
Same, but I really need that easy delete key and arrows sometimes
I hope Wooting will make a 75% formfactor so I have no excuses to not get a wooting
Vgn a75 or wooting 60he ? Pricr per preformence
Just wait and buy wooting. You will have better experience
Can you review the ATK rs7?
I'm waiting for the keychron Q1 HE, for the qmk + hall effect switches
Are you getting the boog75 to compare? Jaeky said he cant tell the difference which is pretty promising
hey shut the hell up
@CyberneticArgumentCreator guys whoever wants to argue with this guy, don't.
@@Spectrulight is there some additional comment from this guy I can't see? Weird I don't even see who you're tagging and for what reason
@@tinypickle he deleted his comment I think
@@Spectrulight oh okay prob just some internet troll or dumb kid
The only thing with the 60hz keyboard is getting to know the layers, it doesnt have arrow keys of FN keys. 1-0 is FN but once you get used to it. Yooo this is hands down the best key board ever.
Lamzu Atlantis Pro keyboard when?
I really hope Akko and Keychron offer some cheaper HE boards in the near future. I dont see myself spending 220$ for the Q1 HE or 210 Euro for the MOD007 when Im only ever going to use the dang thing in wired mode.
With all the HE boards already being super pricey because its the latest and greatest, I really dont get why the these big players decided to only offer the top of the line wireless variants first instead of sweeping the market from all of the smaller companies like Drunkdeer and whatnot with an actual competitor priced more reasonably.
The reason is down below in the comments someone happy to throw $1k any number of times at a collection of custom keyboards all of which have functional defects like switches that are so poorly made they must be disassembled and fixed by the customer, rgb that is non-functional because the LEDs are south facing, and software that looks like it was written by a grade school class in the 1980s. That's the keyboard hobby in a nutshell.
Except for the apex pros which also have rapid trigger (adjustable sensitivity in software) and 0.1 actuation force too which is same as wooting plus the Apex Pro Mini just sounds and feels far better
I just installed Gateron Jade switches two nights ago. It's in a Tofu60 Redux, PC plate, tuned stabs and it sounds fucking majestic.
If they released a 65% I would build another Wooting.
I'm going to pass on the 80HE, seems like it's going to be way too big plus case compatibility is going to be an issue.
True all of the new hall effect keyboards have same PCB which doesn't have good latency. Untill there is a new revision/new PCB I don't see any of the new keyboards competing with Wooting in objective performance sadly
Spot on review. Literally had the same thoughts after trying the razer, i refunded it within a week. Horrible spacebar, awful sound, i could hear it rattle with my headphones on lol.
The steelseries was okay but switches were too wobbly and the software is atrocious.
Wooting is still far above the competition.
Any good reason why are not providing a wireless version?!?!?!
What purpose does a wireless keyboard serve? It’s not like a mouse where you’re moving it around constantly and the wire inhibits you