Razer just copied Wooting.
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Razer have just updated their 60% Huntsman Mini to have the same features as the legendary Wooting 60HE. But are they really the same?
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I love Wootings response to Razers release: „We are feeling flattered, that other companies are implementing similar technology to their products than ours! We feel that competition is good for the market!“
Where did they say this
@@Antayera In one of their recent livestreams on twitch
They can be confident because their product is still way ahead
@@its_Frax That’s awesome.
wooting has always been based
No matter which is better, competition only helps consumers. Bravo to the technologies' growth!
Not under this economic system ;)
"competition" has been around forever yet still copies other brands. i dont support razer and i likely never will.
It's not competition that helps consumers; it's because private property rights are protected. People are given the right to enjoy the success of the product on which they risked their wealth. If 'competition' is the holy keyword, state-controlled means of production would've been successful in creating multiple state-owned companies to compete with each other. Please don't parrot this buzzword; try to research where this buzzword came from and what the person actually said about creating artificial competition that infringes on liberty. We don't need another 'mixed economies' supporter who learns economics from Reddit.
bravo vinc
This is the only correct response!
Well I think razer has something that can one up the wooting. Availability. The wooting is either out of stock or unavailable in some countries.
and also being cheaper haha
It took mine three months to arrive
And price!!
I’ll sell you mines
@@mattlife25 i think they've gotten slightly better from what I understand. purchased mine somewhere in april and received it in about 3 weeks. still something that would make people choose razer i imagine
Wooting really being the disruptive competitor we needed.
I'd love to see you get your hands on the DrunkDeer A75 and give your impressions compared to the Wooting. It's another Hall Effect board that has another Rapid Trigger akin feature, but I'm curious how it stacks up.
The Wooting definitely has the better product no doubt, but it's awesome to see new competitors adopting the rapid trigger feature. At least we will soon have varying options to choose from. Right now, the Razer Huntsman Mini Analog is on sale for $95 and originally retails for $150. Compared to the Wooting, this might actually fit in some people's budget.
i got mine for 58 bucks new
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@@Okay_Turtlehow?
@@EnsaladaXD_ hes what we call an attention seeking capper. If you want a real answer it was on sale for $80 on amazon for black friday
@@amikagahbo2487 There are plenty of ways to get stuff for cheap 🤔 they also didn't specify currency, if it's euro or pounds it's $65 - $75. Especially during the holidays season, it's incredibly common to see stuff at good prices new because people not liking a gift and unable to return it.
You can’t fucking say they copied wooting they had a analog version of the full size huntsman before the wooting keyboard was a thing 💀💀💀
I love my Wooting 60HE so much, unless Wooting themselves comes out with another product I will likely never buy another keyboard
I can confirm that
Finally some competition from other companies!
same.
But it's good to have some competition, 60HE is too powerful I think.
Same here
I still think the Steelseries Apex pro mini has better switches
Brilliant comparison, Steelseries now have their version of Rapid Trigger due to a firmware update yesterday. Would be interesting to see how that performs. Also, would you know how to do the quick item (4 items) on Steelseries for Apex?
I think you forgot to tell that this is only applicable for the Analog switch version not the standard Optical switch version
yeah i’m raging tbh
Oh damn...I just got my Razer out of the cupboard to try this. Oh well.
Oh well...I can uninstall the s**t software again now 😛
DAMN
YEAH!! Waste of my TIME!!
Amazing video as always. Is this just for the huntsman mini or the entire huntsman line?
I had no idea about this! Amazing video as always. Picked up my huntsman and huntsman mini for less than $60 each. Been bouncing between those two and a G Pro tkl. Going to update firmware and give OW another go.
im surprised steel series hasn't done this with their apex line considering the switches in their keyboard is closer in line to whats in the wooting
After the Apex Pro TKL launch I sent them an email suggesting exactly what rapid trigger and DKS is. I thought the Apex Pro already had it but when I received mine it surprisingly didn’t. They said something like “Thanks for your suggestion and we’ll consider it”, but never actually implemented it. 😒
This is very true. Both Wooting and SS switches are made by Gateron, both of them uses magnets, yet the Apex Pro released before the Wooting 2HE (Full Size) and didn't have that feature.
Yes, SS really doesn't care anymore.
yeah, been asking for this feature for ages
they actually confirmed something like rapid trigger is coming soon, just that they said "something" as to not seem like they're copying
@@eDebt sauce
Hey Ali, Is the Huntsman Mini the only keyboard from Razer to get this update? Or do any of their other keyboards have the same technology that could benefit from this update?
Is the update to the analog version only? Or does the mini linear also get it?
Cause my friend bought the normal one last week
The only reason why I haven't pulled the trigger on Wooting is because of layout choice and if competition brings that choice to the table then I would feel that It is welcome.
why tho ? they offer both ansi and iso layout, oh unless you're japanese yeah that might be an issue
@@retrofizz727 Sorry, poor choice of words on my part, I really meant size or number of keys. I prefer 75% or maybe even TKL.
@@theb4dwolf Same there.
@@theb4dwolf That's what I'm looking for as well, but also want BT 5.0+.
@@theb4dwolf There's also the fullsize option
im glad someone is getting close to wooting but i still will not be replacing my wooting60he when someone inevitably matches them
So is this Firmware update for the regular huntsmanmini, or the analog version? And you have always been able to adjust your actuation with the huntsman mini analog.. I'm confused..
whats the green tube light behind you? care to enlighten us? thank you so much!
Don't mind more of the wooting features coming to keyboards you can actually find in stock
Fr, wilting is always out of stock
What I like about wooting is the web browser to customizations , no more 50 applications because we aren’t using the same brandys
Do you know if all these upgrades/changes apply to the Huntsman V2 TKL keyboard?
@Optimum, does this change only apply to the analog huntsman mini?
i tried it on my own Huntsman V2 Analog. Nice to have for sure. I hope such features continue to be refined and become standard in high end gaming keyboards, they're sorely needed.
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I just love your professional and honest reviews. The comparisons are the best on here.
Hi optimum ! great video! I have watched this many times! Steelseries came out with there own version of rapid trigger! Could you do your own testing of this? I was looking to upgrade my old steelseries tkl!!
Corsair K70 max is probably best at setting up actuation distance with its magnetic mechanical switches, and setting 2 actions on 1 key depending how far you press down the button
Steelseries just did the same thing with their Apex Pro keyboards through the 45.0 update, make a video on that please!!!
please try the drunkdeer a75, 75% keyboard with wooting "tech"
Hello Razer Huntsman V3 still have same problem as the keyboard feature in this video?
When do your parts come in for your main pc liquid cooled 4090 build come in?? I reeealy want to know how it goes, looking to buid one for myself
This just sold me on the wooting. I didn’t know it existed. Thanks.
You’re going to pay more for “speed” that will do 0 for you in game compared to any optical switch lol.. but sometimes hype sells..
@@wintersoldier4269 idk man movement tech is so much easier now in apex as well as strafe shooting in valorant feeling so much more intuitive, feels more than 0 to me
you will pay more for wooting 100% bcuz of taxes and delivery.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it if he can afford the wooting, it's definitely worth it
Same!
i think it could be good with some more tweaks but right now wooting is leagues ahead
Steelseries is probably gonna to do this soon too, they've been making hall effect keyboards for awhile now with the Apex Pro. Topre also just released the GX1 which also has the same features.
When is the follow up video on the custom mouse coming? Super curious about that
Would still buy wooting lmao
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u mentally disabled ?
@@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 ?
@@stonie8629 $80 difference
Too bad it's double the price and out of stock.
Can you try the razer hunstmen v3
wait is it an update for a pro version of mini or for any version? Does this update also add arrow kesy on modifier keys?
Does this update apply to all their devices with optical switches enabled?
I think the biggest thing with the wooting board is the fact its more customizable. Anything that allows you to make it more your own is best in my opinion.
Waiting to see this tech in an ortho/columnar layout. Staggered layouts just feel terrible in games after switching.
Guess adjustable actuation is only available for the “analog” huntsman/huntsman mini variants? I have the regular huntsman mini with up to date firmware and synapse software and the actuation tab doesn’t show up.
for some reason my rapid trigger on my huntsman mini analog is not working. I have selected the WASD keys, actuation at 1.5 and rapid trigger at 0.1 and have synced it but still not working. what do I do. Plz help
I would love the Wooting to get some kind of programmable per-key force-feedback!
I love the hall effect switches, but I like tactile keys!
That is most likely impossible
@@darslei Yeah that does certainly sound like some expensive feature as well if they can it implement somehow
@@darslei It certainly is possible. But it might be expensive.
Needs motors. A LOT of motors unless you only want wasd to do that.
And none of these are 75%
Drunk Deer is a 75%
can i know the brand of the green lamp behind you? seems neatly cool
The problem with the Huntsman Mini Analog is that it blocks controller input. I play Apex Legends on MNK and Roller and when I have the Huntsman plugged in it kills every other controller connected to the PC. It’s virtual controller takes priority over everything else
So if the Huntsman is plugged in, my Xbox controller that is also wired in, or wirelessly connected, will not work? I like being able to switch between the two instantly if i want, keyboard/mouse and Xbox controller
@@Marknewell273pretty much, legit have to unplug my keyboard jus to play cod
Most likely just a synapse problem. Honestly that shitty software is razer's biggest problem rn. That and the insane prices and low build quality.
oh cool. would still buy the wooting.
We need more Wooting clones so we can get the same tech at lower prices
as you can see, it's not THE SAME
i dont know if i see it being THAT much lower. the best u might get would be if wooting were to sell the module itself aka just the switches, board, and plate without keycaps and case. idk for sure but i might have remembered that being mentioned. i might be wrong tho
@@Sinsanatis Drunk Deer has literally cloned the wooting and sells the board for $110 US.
@@WalkMrJ mm i forget u could make everything around it cheaper. but its only 25 bucks cheaper without the discount. on amazon it 35 cheaper without the discount. but theres a lot less features and not much u can really do in terms of customization. if ur strictly after the rapid trigger feature, it would probably be a good cheaper option, but imo the wooting offers so much more features that i feel its a bit more worth it. its like i dont really ever need anything else for gaming. any more than that would just be to customize it. it is also a bit marketed towards the custom mk crowd
im not seeing the activation tab in razer software, what am i doing wrong?
does this only work for the huntsman mini analog or does it work with the huntsman mini also
love your videos, straight to the point and very well made👍 ☺️
These clicks im hearin when ya changing scenes is just unnecessarily annoying imo
You can say the same thing to Steelseries' TKL optical keyboard that uses magnets on their switches while the actuation point is modifyable
New update made the apex pro same as wooting
Does this update count for every razer kezboard or only for the huntsman?
Keep calm use membrane 🧘♂️
Lol
NEVER!!!!
I've had adjustable actuation points on my steelseries apex for years. Maybe Wooting copied Steel?
Wooting one, 2016, first analog keyboard in the world to be commercially sold, including, adjustable actuation point. 🎉
@@Wootingdoesnt matter if its out of stock all day and do not accept paypal , trash company
@@Wooting First keyboard in europe, you mean. Gonna start throwing that shit around, you might want to check Asia first.
Have my Gpro keyboard for 3 years now, and I'm kinda having the itch to buy something new, even though its not broken. Would you guys say the upgrade is worth it?
Have you tried the new huntsman v3 pro. Or is this it?
I sprint using the W key instead of the standard shift key. Having both the sprinting and moving forward actions bound to the same key causes all kinds of movement-related issues. The wooting 60HE fixed all those issues for me. Another advantage of the Wooting that people don't mention is the fact that you can literally use any o-rings you want without them affecting your keys' actuation point.
Human hands can't feel more than 24$ worth of keyboard anyway
this guy stays with L takes
Dam, sorry to know you don't got hands
L
genuine question, what's the difference between the Wooting switches and the steelseries OmniPoint and corsair OPX?
Really though how come we didn't get this before by now. The rapid trigger feature is just great. Now for others to follow!
I'd really like more refined switch with granular range option, but also lower total travel switch like 3mm and just custom set actuation point etc. Want TKL ISO though.
Thank you wooting for raising the standard ❤
Only matter of time before Logitech and other companies start heading for the Wooting route.
lmao it will be everyone else before logitech even budges. Those guys are way too comfortable right now not doing anything.
logitech is lazy af with innovations tho
I was wondering what keyboard you had in your C4 SFX video yesterday!
Doesn't the Apex Pro Mini has rapid trigger to? It's not adjustable but whatever your actuation setting is set to 0.2 to 4.0 it will be used as the rapid trigger reset setting. On mine I tap D multiple times by lifting my finger and barely applying any force.
That’s great because Wooting had some countries blacklisted without any explanation.
@@KaanBeskardes According to Wooting itself they’re Belarus
Mexico
Mongolia
Philippines
Puerto Rico
Russia
Ukraine
And I don’t even blame them.
@@Definitely_Melnyx wait wat? ph? why? pls tell us more..tia
@@Definitely_Melnyx why Mexico? 😭
Xenofobic mfs
so Razer half assed it and buried it in terrible software. shocking and totally not what they always do.
Does the Razer Huntsman Tkl get the same firmware update?
Does this work for the Huntsman Mini?
Amazing title. Big balls dude, loved the courage!
Wooting is just producing the best keyboards. Love mine. The Dutch guys are amazing!
Lmao.. I heard like 80% of the customers had to send back their boards with problems.. but I’ll thank them for rapid trigger even tho it’s mostly gimmick.. nobody notices the difference unlesss your coming from some heavy cherry mx switch .. if you have optical switches ur already top “speed”
@@wintersoldier4269 I play rhythm games, and its a massive difference. Makes it a lot easier.
I’d love to see SteelSeries follow suite. Their hardware is Hall effect, though not quite as precise as Wooting’s, but there is no rapid trigger functionality.
Its confirmed in the works. Soon.
However.. You really wont see something equal to Wooting until Razer/Steel come out with new boards/switches. They can introduce rapid trigger but SteelSeries Apex pro and Razer huntsman v2 analog are not as accurate as the Wooting 2he. Granted all this stuff is really minor
@@bobshanery5152 Steelseries confirmed that the update with Rapid Trigger will also increase the actuation point distance from 0.2-3.8mm to 0.1-4.0 mm(like Wooting), so Steelseries' keyboards are just as precise as Wooting's
would the mini analog be worth it for 100$ or save for wooting?
What do you think of the relatively new DrunkDeer A75 which somewhat copies the features of Wooting 60HE but 75% keyboard instead?
Is it only for the analog version of the huntsman ?
Yo where did you get that green light bar?
Do you think this will be added for the Tartarus Pro eventually?
What blank keycaps do you have on your wooting
Can I use rapid trigger on wooting with custom cable?
I hear steelseries are looking at doing similar things with their hall effect boards.
Also, I'd love to see an in-depth on the drunkdeer hall effect board if that interests you
Wdym the apex pro can do all the things the wooting and razor do
@@elvoandro7087 rapid trigger
@@P-U-S-S software now on apex enables rapid trigger
can you link to the profile you use for your wooting?
Is this also for the Huntsman TKL?
how does the corsair k100 air compare in terms of speed to the wooting?
I would like to assume you are already trying out the new superglide V2s
Prank in school with typewriter still relevant?😂
for the price difference between the two, would you say the razor is the best analog keyboard at that price?
Hi so I know this is out of topic but what does it mean when my graphics card still gives me display but my device manager won't pick it up or even task manager it even refuses to let me install the graphics card drivers does it mean it's broken or something?
Is this an update for the same Razer Hintsman mini red linear og is it a new keyboard?
This firmware update is for huntsman mini analog only?
what about the steelseries pro tkl?
Is it just a free update for the Razar huntsman mini?
is this working on both the regular optical switches and the analog optical switches? I have the regular optical version, updated it and dont have any new features, cant find any info on this online :)
Analog only.
Is the Huntsman Mini the only Razer keyboard that's getting this update? Can any other Razer Keyboards support the feature??
Maybe one could put some spacers to limit the travel of the razor. That would solve the biggest downside
I hope Steelsearies does something like this for the Apex pro. I thing it should be doable and the actuation is quite precise.
Coming soon. I forget what they are calling it but its the same thing.
Unfortunately you can’t use analog inputs and rapid keys on the huntsman without synapse . For some stupid reason Razer forces you to use the software or you will not get the full functionality of the keyboard
Yeah this is the biggest drawback with Razer if you ask me.
Were you playing tracer and bastion in diamond-masters kings row earlier today?
Is this any better than your standard mech keyboard tho?
Not by much lol
How do i enable the new updates-
Rapid Trigger Mode
Adjustable Actuation
On my huntsman mini analog