Heavy Duty Coil Spring Upgrade for Dodge Ram 1500 | 2009 to 2018 & 2019-2022 (Classic)
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Which Heavy Duty coil springs are right for your Dodge ram 1500? We'll walk you through which one is best for you and we'll show you how we install them. If you don't feel confident on installing them yourself, don't forget you can always have your local mechanic install them for you. Just show them this video for installation instructions.
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Just finished installing these springs in my ram 1500. They are awsome. My truck is always loaded with 500 to a 1000 lbs. Did the install with it fully loaded inbthe ground n under 2 hrs with a buddy. They are awsome as i gained 3 to 4 inches in overall hieght and it rides great.
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Thanks again
Absolute best video I've seen on this! Thanks!!
Seems pretty straight forward. Thanks for the video. I checked out simcoe springs I’ve got a 2019 but it’s the 2018 body style. Definitely gonna upgrade
Good video, simple and straightforward
I had S.S change my rear springs. Raised the rear an inch and half. Can't tell the ride difference from stock with no load, well maybe slightly. I towed a 25 foot travel trailer out east, wow huge improvement! Measured only an inch of squat when loaded....full bed and the loaded trailer. I highly recommend this upgrade. Thanks guys!
@@leecrumble3921 Heavy duty for 2012 ram 1500
Thanks for the simple and easy to understand tutorial!
Glad it was helpful!
This is a nice, simple project, but I recommend doing as much as necessary like upgrading shocks, jounce stops while everything is apart.
This helped me today. Thank you!
Thank you for a straight forward video👍🏽👍🏽 I soon will be ordering those for my Ram
just a little FYI
351-893HD lift is 0.5"
351-893XHD lift is 1.5" at the rear wheels
They are basically made the same way just one is taller than the other for more ride height/carrying capacity
Thanks for a great video. I bought your XD springs, and your video gave me the confidence to do it myself, the correct way.
Awesome. Hardest part is getting both coils to seat up into the upper housing at the same time.
I watched video…I ordered new springs from Scott and Simcoe team…I paid a local Dallas company to install…I had to get the truck an alignment following install…WOW, what a difference, it’s like driving a new truck! Well done, well worth the money! Great video!
An alignment on the rear wheels??
You should get an aliment after any height adjustment of a vehicle, however not totally necessary when putting in rear coil springs as there is no adjustment on the rear axle.
However, you can get an alignment just for a precaution because of the shift in weight distribution as there will be a slight increase of weight on the front axle. Alignments are cheap compared to wasting a good set of tires.
Thank you man great video
you have such a great demeaner.
I don't know why I thought the Air lift helpers would be easier to install . This looks like it's definitely the way to go. Thanks for the video !
There are two different styles of air suspension.
Coil insert design which you install inside the coil spring, I do not recommend them at all.
Then there is the style where you mount it beside the coil and if you go air ride, this is the way to go. However the coil springs are super easy to install and are usually cheaper now a days with the price of air kits going up. Plus with the coil spring you just install them and forget about it. Just keep driving. Air bags, we always recommend checking the air pressure at least every month.
@@simcoespring Yeah the in coil ones didn't look like a great idea to me. The ones that replace the bump stops look like a much better idea but I always thought they were bolt on, when I saw guys cutting the bump stops off with a Sawzall and the kit came with self tappers, I was less interested . I figured I might aswell see if I can just get stiffer springs and deal with the stiffer ride. Now that I see they make progressive rate springs for this , it seems like that's really the way to go.
If I get a couple inches lift from the heavy duty coils what about the front? Add similar coils to the front to keep the rake the same, or a different approach for the front? Great video, you made it look easy.
Just order my heavy duty coils today
lol just shipped them out. They'll pick them up tomorrow =)
When I replaced my rear shocks and installed coil spacers to remove the coils by using a bottle jack on tp of the rear axle and just lifting it like that to get the coils out.
we always recommend jacking up on a jack up point or on the frame rails. Make sure you are working safely
Easiest improvement ever.
Will this work well with a leveling kit that is already on my 2019 ram 1500 classic. 4wd.
Very nice video buddy, I want to swap my rear and maybe my front for HD coil, did if I change those coil my truck gonna be lifted a little bit, right now I have 2" level kit with spacer
Usually we would go with the Xhd coils in the rear for a 1.5" lift and keep the leveling kit in the front. We dont normally put hd coils in the front unless there is a plow or a heavy duty bumper/winch on the truck.
I was looking to go with an inch spacer in rear as my Bilstein 5100’s up front leave my front about 9/16” higher than the rear. I just got a trailer so figured lil lift in back would make sense. Then I thought of better coils. My 4x4 shop says I would need new rear shocks as well (also said same w the spacer). Any opinion to that. I like this coil option, would make sense for me.
I just installed bilstein 4600 stock oem replacement rear shocks. If I get springs that raise the rear half in to a inch. Would my 4600s still be ok to keep on?
I have a 2010 dodge ram 1500 with a 6" rough country lift. Would this fit.
Can these be installed in the front as well? Would like to level it out more with the rear.
Great video. Are those the same steps to remove the coils in a 2022 ram 1500 shock bolt and swaybar.
Pretty much. The top rubber is a little different and the sway bar is a bit different but the steps are the same.
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What springs would be ideal for a truck that’s lifted 4.5” on the rear? It’s lifted by a 1.5” spacer and then 3” of coil springs. It’s the original parts the lift kit came with but once the bed it’s loaded with tools it lowers it significantly. Ram 2010 and it is 2wd 🙊
If it is "lift kit" coil springs, I don't know if there is much you can change. Our XHD coils only lift it about 1-1.5" at the rear. Which doesn't compare to the 3" lift coils.
With the commercial duty coils on a 14 ram 1500 , can you use / recommend using air lift air bags that fit inside the coils I have some on my truck now and looking about getting some new coils . I'm wondering if they are work together.
you CAN use the air bags inside the coil spring. I don't normally recommend using the coil-rite or the coil inserted air bags. We have had issues with them in the past rubbing on the coil and popping.
However they do fit and you can use them, it is all compatible.
If you are towing or using the truck to move weight a lot, then I recommend the 351-893XHD coils and they work quite well on their own. They also lift the rear of the vehicle by 1.5" which will give you more height/clearance for when you load the vehicle up.
Hey I bought these rear springs, very happy. Do you make a front spring upgrade?
Yes I do! 350-1240HD or simcoespring.com/products/350-1240hd?_pos=1&_psq=350-1240&_ss=e&_v=1.0
We are currently out of stock and waiting on a back order to be filled at this time.
(Edit) we always stock these coil springs now
Did the rear height change anything?
about half of our annual mileage is towing a 6000 lb travel trailer(8000 km of towing). with 600 lbs on the hitch, i realize we are getting close to our payload cap of 1500 lbs! of course we do use a wd hitch. would the recreational spring upgrade be a good choice and what would you charge to install them?
Either coil will do, the commercial grade coils will give you 1.5" of more height at the rear wheels. The recreational coils only lift 0.5" so i would use that info to help you choose.
So if I bought the commercial springs for the rear should I get a front leveling / lift kit?
every truck/cab/model 4x4 and 4x2 all sit a little differently. I would jack up the back of your vehicle 1-1.5" (at the wheel) and visually you will know if you would want the leveling kit.
Would you recommend the timbren ses kit in addition to your heavy duty spring upgrade?
very rarely have we used this, but we have. There is a "spacer" that we can give you to make the Timbren SES kit taller to match the new ride height of the truck because the coil spring will lift the truck about 1 inch.
My SS recommended these beefy springs rather than the Timbren. They advised the springs were the better way to go especially the ride. No need to add Timbrens. I had the SS change out my stock springs for HD progressive springs. Glad I did. No sag, great ride!
Looks like you kept the stock shocks , so I’m assuming you wouldn’t have to put different shocks on with the hd springs .
Yes as long as you dont raise the back of the truck more than 2" you can still use the factory shocks. These coils dont raise it more than 1-1.5" depending on which cab you have.
Do I understand this in the right manner!? Progressive springs are installed at the rear and linear ones at the front? Just want to get a good setup. I would install the XHD 893 at the rear and the 1240 HD at the front in conjunction with the Bilstein 5100.
The 350-1240HD are a constant rate coil spring with +35% more capacity. I would only recommend using those coils if you have a slide-in camper, tow bumper, or plow on the front of the truck. you cannot get a progressive or variable rate for the front because it is already, because of the engine, mostly at max capacity already. having a variable rate coil for the front is counter-productive and wouldn't actually have any real function.
Don’t use my truck much for heavy loads and occasionally drive on rough terrain or roads. Will the heavy duty ones affect my ride a lot?
Sometimes a conversation can answer your question better than a message. You can find our contact information at www.simcoespring.com
If you ask a drug dealer if their drug is harmful they’ll tell you it’s not.. 😉, join a truck group and ask there, you’ll have many honest answers there, not saying they’re gonna lie to you here but it’s better to ask who already had those on and felt the difference.
So I carry roughly 300lbs in the bed. Just enough with a 2.1” level to make the back sag enough to look nose high. Would the 30% springs be the way to go here to not have a sag with that little bit of weight?
I noticed the same putting about 400lb in my 2019 classic. Dropped a few inches and I was thinking if I loaded a trailer and bed it would be more. I'm installing the 30% progressive springs to give that extra load but keep a better ride empty.
This was an awesome video. I am going to change the springs on my Ram 1500 since I tow a travel trailer. Just curious, though. I've seen some videos where people use a spring compressor. Is this necessary? You didn't and it seemed easy to remove the springs. Again, good video!
there is enough room for you to get these coil springs in without compressing them. The brake lines and everything are long enough to give you access. hope this helps
Please 🙏 let me know how the operation went
I've been told that heavy duty springs are way too rough when not hauling a trailer please let me know and thank you in advance.
@@craigkerr9281 I decided to go with the Timbren's bump stops instead. Took about 3 minutes each to install. Only reason I decided to go with them is because I really didn't feel like going through all that work replacing the springs. And from what I understand, the springs ride rough without a load. I wanted something that would stop the back end of my Ram 1500 from sagging when I hooked up the Travel Trailer.
@@craigkerr9281 These variable rate coil spring are the softest ride you can get with a heavy duty coil spring.
You can also try a "timbren" ses kit
You can also try Sumo Spring, both of these kits just prevent sag when loaded. They don't affect your ride height and shouldn't affect your ride comfort when you are empty.
we sell the Timbren SES kit on our website as well. DR1500DS for Regular cab and DR1500DQ for extended, crew and quad cabs.
I hope this helps.
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 with HD tow pkg. All parts are still original (150k mi.). Would the HD coils be the same as OEM replacement or still an improvement?
If in doubt I'd get the 351-893XHD which is the heavier of the coil springs. They will raise the back of the truck up around 1.5" and give you more capacity. They are by far the most popular set of coils we sell.
How is the ride after installing the xhd coil springs?
Because it's veritable rate it will ride better than any other heavy duty coil. It gets stiffer the more weight you put in the box (or tow behind) but i don't see a drastic change in ride quality when you are empty, or else I wouldn't want to sell them. If you strictly go from empty truck to full towing like 5th wheel trailer towing or loads of firewood, salter/sanders or plows. I would recommend the Timbren SES Kits instead.
I’m adding equipment to my 2017 Ram 1500 that’s gonna weigh about 900 pounds. Will I be okay with the commercial springs or do you recommend something more?
I would put the commercial springs in them. I'm not a fan of putting sumo springs or timbrens or air bags in for a permanent load, so the coil springs (351-893XHD) would be the best solution.
@@simcoespring thank you!
Hi, what brand do you recommended for 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 ? Thanks
these coil springs fit from 2009-2018 and the 2019-2022(classic) can you can get them at simcoespring.com/products/351-893xhd
can you run this along with an airlift kit. Would it fit inside the spring?
yes, same diameter coil spring.
What rear springs do you recommend for a 2000 ram 1500
in 2000, ram 1500 came with leaf springs. There where 2.5" and 3" wide springs on the trucks in those years. Plus there was a different spring for 4x2 and 4x4. You would have to call me, contact info is at www.simcoespring.com and we could discus which springs you have and which ones would work for your truck.
I want to put a 1500p camper on my truck...will this work good?
I would use the 351-793XHD or you can try the DR1500DQ timbren kit. Or I'd you prefer, you can also try sumo springs. Depends on your preferences.
How did you make that look so easy? It makes me want to go try this but I feel like I'd fail horribly.
you probably will.....I know I did at first. I wasn't a very good mechanic for my first 4 years I worked here. Then after failing horribly enough times i just kept getting better and better. Now all these jobs seem easy now. It is just 20 years of practice.
Now I don't know if you are talking about this specific job or mechanics in general, but that is why it is an apprenticeship program. Go buy like $600 worth of tools from harbor freight and apply for an apprenticeship. There are a lot of people hiring. If that company doesn't work out, move your apprenticeship to another company at least you can get paid to learn.
Does Simcoe have replacement springs for 90s Ford trucks?
we can get leaf springs for almost all types of vehicles. If you wish to contact me, my contact information is at www.simcoespring.com
There's nothing like working on a new vehicle.
A rare chance....worked on a 1967 Camaro and a 1963 Ford Falcon today. Both went poorly. Hopefully I can finish filming the Camaro tomorrow.
Maybe you might can help me I want to do a 4-link coilover rear suspension on a 1999 Dodge Ram 1500 for the most part it will be a daily driver without a trailer or a heavy load occasionally it might pull a small to medium sized boat but nothing to Major for the most part I just wanted it to ride good and it does see a little bit of off road used but my question is do you have any idea what might would be a good spring rate I've tried searching pretty much everywhere and can't find anything
The issues you might come across is our coil springs are mounted on the outside of the frame, so they wouldn't work for your application. Not really sure how to do a conversion like that.
I would recommend doing a 4 link with an air suspension. you can use 4 link bars from TMR CUSTOM I believe they are called heim joints or something like that. check their website, they have all the bars for the modifications.
I would recommend using the wireless air controller from PACBRAKE for the air supply. You can control it right from your phone.
@@simcoespring thank you technically I'm not worried about making the four-link control arms or track bar I can make those myself just trying to figure out how the spring / airbag system might would work
I’ve got a 2020 RAM 1500 4x4. How do these springs change vehicle stats? Specifically, rear axle capacity, trailer hitch weight and total tow weight? My truck currently has 1523lbs max payload, and 8200 max towing. Is the gear differential a factor here?
The manufacturer only tells us that the coil springs are heavy duty with 70% more carrying capacity. It doesn't change the stats of the truck at all, you are still limited to your GVRW. Whatever way your vehicle was manufactured at is what you still have. your max payload is still 1523 and your max towing will still be 8200. The coil spring is designed to prevent squat when you are at those maximums on a regular basis.
Hope this helps
@@simcoespring thank you. You mentioned an extra 700 lbs, what number is increased by this amount?
It’s payload but for legal reasons they cannot tell you it will increase the capacity..
@@trevorslater5984my recent understanding is you also have to watch the ratings for the tires.
People start trying to max out payload and tires could go out first.
Do you all make any replacement springs for the front end of a 2010 ram 1500?
I can get a 350-1240HD coil spring which is a +35% capacity coil for that truck. 4x4 only. If you are looking for a stock replacement set you can just get them at your local parts store. When it comes to coil springs, I mostly specialize in heavy duty for plows, towing, work truck type coil springs.
Yes. We have them listed on the website www.simcoespring.com 350-1240HD they increase the capacity by 35%.
Will these springs add lift after install or are they just stiffer than stock?
The HD coils will lift it about 0.5" and the xhd will raise about 1.5" depending on which cab you have
@@simcoespring Thanks for replying, it’s a 2019 Ram 1500 Classic Crew Cab with a 6’ 4” bed.
Where did you Jack the truck up from? Rear hitch?
Yes, make sure you secure the vehicle and chalk the wheels
@@simcoespring Thank you!
I have a 2019 ram 1500 with a 3.5” lift. I don’t like the squat that I have when I haul and tow. Do you have springs for this application?
It’s a new style ram not a classic
@@CR-ji4ub good, i was just going to ask you that. 351-905XHD will raise it 1-1.5" from stock height and gives you an almost 3/4 ton type carrying capacity. (so less squat)
simcoespring.com/products/351-905xhd
I don't know how they did the lift kit. was it spacers or all coil spring or both?you will have to look and verify that before you purchase the coil springs.
@@simcoespring tha is for the reply. The kit is rough country and I believe they used a spacer blocks only. Rough country shocks were included but I don’t suppose that really matters.
Thanks for replying *
@@CR-ji4ub if it is a pure spacer than you can put the 350-905XHD it will raise it about 1" more. shouldn't be much of a problem if you don't want it to squat. most lift shocks will give you more than 1" of freedom so you should be able to use the same shocks.
Do the heavy duty coil springs lift the rear of the truck
there are sets of coil springs available for this vehicle.
351-893HD, +35% carrying capacity and +1/2" of ride height increase
simcoespring.com/products/351-893hd
351-893XHD, +70% carrying capacity and 1.5" of ride height increase (most popular)
simcoespring.com/products/351-893xhd
Hope this helps
How much would you say it raised the rear? Are those 30% or 70% ?
the 30% don't raise the vehicle very much. Maybe 1/2". The 70% raise the rear up between 1 and 1.5" at the wheel well.
I just installed the 30% ones on my 2021 1500. It raised the rear quite a bit, easily 2inches. I'm a little disappointed about that. I didn't measure before and after because I didn't think it would be necessary. I bought these because the height of my truck was perfect and I wanted to keep it that way. I might have to raise the front 2 inches now and I don't do spacers so it's gonna be expensive. I've had lifts in 3 jeeps. I didn't want to raise my truck. Maybe after towing a couple of times the springs might settle a bit? I'm also wondering if they might have sent me the 70% springs in the wrong box?
American Truck makes a 2 inch lift strut for Rams. Installed them on my 2016 Ram 1500. Got an alignment after, the ride is pretty good I must say. Just throwing an option out there for you.
Does it have same ride height?
The XHD should raise it up about 1 additional inch of ride height.
Can I used these with a 4inch suspension lift?
if the suspension lift is all spacers, then yes. you can install these coil springs and are compatible with all lift kit spacers.
How much (if any) does it lift the truck up
If you have a full cab/crew cab/mega cab 351-893HD lifts the truck about 1/2", the 351-893XHD lifts it 1.5" at the rear wheels.
Hi 👋 XHD HOW MUCH IT WILL RAISE THE REAR I HAVE RAM1500 2015
AND ITS WORK WITH AIR BAG MAN
I need to tow 6,000 LB trailer
Please advise
I need to tow 6,000 LB trailer
Please advise
Carrying capacity. Is this for payload?
the 35% and 70% are payload/carrying capacity
And make the vehicle ride like a tank.
For a heavy duty coil spring these ride pretty decently. There are some constant rate coil springs that we can sell you that really make it ride like a tank. however I don't offer them for sale because nobody wants them.
Can I still install these even if I have air bags in the rear ?
There are a lot of factors that need to be addressed with this question.
Air bags that go inside the coil springs, yes. no problem, they are compatible.
Air bags that go next to the coil between the frame and the axle seat. YES and NO
Yes, get the ones that don't increase the ride height, so I would go for a coil that keeps the ride height around the same give or take 1/2"
NO - If you install a coil spring that riases the ride height of the vehicle by over 1" then the air bags won't hook up any more and will be stretched out. you might get away with 1.5", however each air bag system is different and if you stretch out the bags they either won't work anymore or will just pop or tear itself apart.
Some air bag companies sell "pucks or spacers" for on top or under the air bags to compensate for the extra ride height, but that doesn't come standard with air bag kits.
@@simcoespring Thanks for the reply . Since I am already at maximum payload . I will definitely look into a large truck probably a Ram 2500. Currently have a Ram 2014 1500.
I would like to purchase these coil springs for my 2014 Dodge Ram 1500 Laramie. It has a 4" lift and it has the sagging even when it is empty. Can I still buy this ones?
How was it lifted in the rear? Spacers or taller coils?
If it was lifted by spacers, the these could be added in to increase carrying capacity. It will raise it about 1 more inch as well.
Does these make you suffer ride quality?
They are the softest riding Heavy Duty coil you can get for your truck. I don't find it ruins the ride quality. It rides a little stiffer but not like a 3/4 ton.
Part number please
part numbers and links are in the description
351-893HD or
351-893XHD
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I bought Winston extra heavy duty springs to replace the worn out air suspension on my Ram 1500. I don't know where to get a top mount for the shock and spring connection? I bought a set on RockAuto but they are too small for the springs. Any idea where to get a pair? This would be for the fronts.
you should be able to use the old ones, or just look around at your local napa/pep boys/parts suppliers. they should be able to locate one for you
I have a 2013 Ram 1500 with HD tow pkg. All parts are still original (150k mi.). Would the HD coils be the same as OEM replacement or still an improvement?
@@simcoespring found them on rockauto
@@aarony8534 check out variable rate Winston extra heavy duty springs on rockauto. That's what I'm using, I think they're better than OEM. But I'm not sure.