Well done guys hard graft but you got there in the end.....had a bad accident last yr putting a monster one in the back of an old 5 bed Victorian house it weighed a tonne well actually 995kg to be precise it slipped of a scaffold tube that a lad had under it for leverage it twisted and dragged my hand under!! Ended up with 3 badly shattered fingers it was that bad it shattered my finger bones long ways and severe crush damage to all 3 finger ends. Had 12 weeks off work then had to go back laying bricks with broken fingers due to lack of money!! Lucky it wasn't my trowel hand so was gripping bricks with 2 fingers to lay... bones wouldn't join back together so had to go hospital every week to have them forced. There constantly numb now nerves are gone. So i tend to steer clear of steels now if I can. Anyhow well done boys look forward to the next one 👍
Jesse , it just shows how one small mishap can have big consequences. If you watch again I actually have a near miss as we are sliding the steel through the doorway , only noticed when I edited but nearly smashed my leg against the brickwork, very close ! 😬🧱👍🏼. Hope your hand improves for guy pal !
Zac vaper Ste (dad ) 33 years experience..... Alex (son) nearly 3 years mostly working in foundations on site so nearly every job is completely new to him . I worked on my own for 23 years but now I wouldn’t work without him . He is progressing well 👍🏼👍🏼🧱
At 11 minutes in Vic has his hands in there. Done that a few weeks ago and a block came down and gave me a sore one! Well propped but poorly jointed blockwork. Good job boys. Vic is a good hand👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
You obviously take pride in your work. Please consult a qualified engineer for temporary works. Ensure you are working to suitable standards, with acceptable factors of safety. Wouldn’t want to see you lads get hurt. Happy to chat if you’d like to talk things through at any time.
Quite labor intensive just to gain minimal amount of extra square footage....but may be the owner's best way (and probably the only way) to accomplish the task! Great video, thanks.
Good tip by showing putting the steels behind the strongboys first..proper job..I did alot of this kind of work in my past..did one on deansgate,took out a 16 flue chimney over 4 floors..love your uploads..proper grafters
Cheers Wayne I learned that trick the hard way . It was another tough day on the extension that fights back . It’s so satisfying now it’s all done 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Great job boys. Always a ball ache of a job. I personally would always use a genie lift(£80ish for a day)It saves on needing an extra man and I think it’s a safer way to install large steels as it eliminates any need to strain yourselves lifting, but each to their own 👍👍
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Make the oversite height up to the same height of internal floor. Measure out where the genie legs will go and remove brickwork and blockwork so the legs can travel into the building. We've just installed a roughly 800kg steel using 2 genies in exactly the same situation as you guys. The wall below will be staying for a while. Fill in little holes with insulation or if needed just brick them back in temporarily
hi guys.working hard again, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, whoever said that aint ever lifted one of those bad buys in, fitted four similar sized last weekend, hired a genie and it didn't grant me three wishes...……… plumbing and electrics the bane of our lives steve.
harry godwinson . Absolutely Harry! Those genies really are magic in right situations 👌🏼our wall was staying in for now unfortunately so we couldn’t use one 😟🧱👍🏼
Top job guys I like you steady away with steel inch at a time and get it right you carnt afford a mistakes with them carnt wait for the next vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Mark Hep . Cheers mark , I’ve learned the hard way to price in plenty of time for things like this , as you say you can’t rush putting those bloody things in 🥵🧱👍🏽
Look like beasts. Hats a pretty big opening. 6m? Did the SE not specify steel piers or deeper foundation pads? Assume that wall is holding up the first floor joists, roof and new pitched roof for extension?
Get yourself a genie lifter your on a nice flat base good builders backs hernias and other problems. You are a hero on the day until your backs gone think lads.
Great job! Not for me though I can not stand it when extensions are done wall knocked through and there is a great big beam now smack bang in the middle of the room....... Another 3 courses up and an internal beam with an extended bottom lip, it would of gave support to the joists on first floor and a flush ceiling through to opening. Doing this takes no extra time, is a little more on cost of beam and gives a 100% better finish. Neither less you did a grand job keep it up, its not your fault it's these architect that get a good wage for a third of a thought!
Rod Fair mmmmm we think the architect may have gone a size up to be in the safe side . These things we’re way over engineered .... should have got him to help put them in 🥵🧱👍🏽
Loving this series of videos on this extension, lads. A proper head scratcher working every move out well in advance so you don't give yourself even more hassle further down the line. The kind of job Alex will learn more on in a couple of weekends than 6 months building straightforward boxes on site!
Jim Newlands Thanks Jim it’s great to get one of these every so often to get stuck into and yes it’s all new stuff for Al to gain valuable experience 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Top video but a word of warning from an old bricky site manager when propping the floor joist to hold the internal skin (or any floor joist with a brick block wall on it) be aware that some times not always check that mortar is ontop of the joist because sometimes it maybe an 8 inch joist a block is 9 inch leaving an inch gap ontop of joist if not filled in so when its propped the inside skin may drop an inch . Not having a go its just something to be aware of .
Well done chaps!!!.. She's a beast!... I commented a while back that I used to bricklay 2ith my old man who died and after watching your videos I'm back to it tha k you guys so much!!
chris richards Evening Chris , that’s great to hear mate and it really means a lot to us that our videos have helped . Thanks for watching out channel pal and for contributing to our comments 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
bric bybrick . Thanks pal . Not fun this one ! The house is actually mid 90 s , probably one of the last done before the World went insulation crazy 😂🧱👍🏼
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex A little tip for you guys if you have the setup, space and time allows. I get some scaffold tubes and clips and put them between the props. It helps to brace the props and allows you to slide your steels on the scaffold tubes into position ready for lifting into place. Cheers
@@SteveAndAlexBuild nice, I'm in same position, engineer spec said sleeves for bolts, but flanges will touch and do job. Oh also, my steels ain't painted, is that ok to? Cheers
@@ivegotaporscheandalambo3318 ideally they should be painted . Ours weren’t because the back wall became the internal wall so they will never get wet 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild u would put needles through the wall but involves going up into the next floor above joist height ,but also u could lift the steels into the ceiling void hiding them
Everyone needs a "Vic" in their life. Good work lads. Have you tried a genie lift? They make those steels so much easier and safer to put in. £50 half day hire....worth every penny!!! Good vid as always lads 👍🏻✌🏼
come on guys a young lad [alex] should have them little steels on his shoulders put them in place n just left you to do the hard work ,,,, bolting up n drinking tea lololol brill job guys
hi when you pushed the steel beams up to there final poistion snug tight to the under bricks could you put a light butter of mortar along the beam to make it super tight in its final position?
Nice vid! I am installing RSJ's at the weekend but my joists run parallel with the RSJ. Any idea how I can prop the wall inside? Trying not to disturb the existing bathroom upstairs
6x2 timbers sent threw wall, at appropriate spacing. Screw straight into the parallel joists with an acro's at each point and a acro's on other side of wall. (Needles) basically instal rsj's you can then cut the outside of the 6x2's lengths off and leave the inside screwed to joists, making an even more sturdier joists 👍
Hi guys, do you pack any mortar between the pad stone and the RSJ? Or is it purely just sat on it. Not sure how you get the padstone super tight under the RSJ if you put it in after the beam is in position. Thanks
Patrick O'Connor . We try to put the steel directly into the pad stone then pack the pad stone up tight with slate 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
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It would have been sensible to have had the steel beams painted with a rust paint, red oxide would be good, good practice boys, well done with the beam work excellent.
Great video, I’m doing an extension and Loft conversion myself, I’ve interpreted it as minimum 150mm of the steal onto pad stone at each end? Didn’t really look like you had the space for any longer
Instead of using steel in the loft have you considered plyweb beams, I used these, I did it all by myself following engineer plans, you still have to use a steel plate to lock them in at each end and a concrete pad but it only takes one person to do? Just a thought...
Awesome videos guys, Great to see you two working together so well. I do this same job quite often and always use "Brick Brace" as well as propping- you get a load more room to work. Check out the full set, well worth the money. I also use a genie as that saves a lot of stress !! I've got 2 ridge beams to do 305x305mm one at 21m & one at 17m spliced at 5m - big crane for those 😂😂. Have a great weekend. Regards Tim
Tim Margereson . Jeeese these would look like cocktail sticks to those bruisers your putting in ! I’ve used the genie a couple of times , they are superb . The only snag is you need the wall out to use them . We only did the demolition the back wall after the roof went on so the house stayed secure . Thanks for the tips though , always welcome . Cheers 🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild No probs, definitely look at the "Brick Brace" system. I use the full set with a scaffold pole bolted into them and they would support the opening by themselves. If this is the sort of thing you do often - get a set, I promise you won't regret it !!!! And no they don't pay me !!!!!
Great vid. I have a question and I am a complete amateur so this might be obvious to some, but what happens to any moisture that penetrates the brick work from above the extension. Would it not just run down the inside of the cavity and end up on the steel. If anyone can advise that would be great! Thanks
Steels can't be 6m but neither here or there it's all heavy graft no matter what size steel it is, I was putting in a few internal steels when it was raining last week, dusty and heavy work but a change is as good as a break. Quality work as per usual lads👍
I want to do a extension at home and put 2 steels in to take the external from joist height to wallplate,my question is can the steels sit on padstones on 100mm bearing or single leave of blockwork one side on a cavity wall and on 100mm on the other on 9" wall (old house) and take the new extension cavity wall over the kitchen,any advice be appreciated. Cheers ,great job by the way
100 mm doesn’t sound enough . You really need a structure engineer to do the calculations and a Plan . There is a follow up video to this one where I had to go back and build new pillars at each end as the council condemned the drawing and calcs that had been done .
Just watching this reminds me of how I fractured 5 vertebrae doing this work, the specialist said it wasn’t that particular morning that did it, it was the previous 45 years of lifting these and the farmers friends 18x9x6 blocks then the 11” footing blocks came in, when I was serving my time my journeyman brickie said that if I see concrete blocks on the site jack it in, you’re a bricklayer not a blocklayer leave the blocks for the country lads you concentrate on the brick, wish I’d listened to him 😜
As they say up North ..Isn’t Building a flaming Maul .. tough job boys but with your combined experience and skill you got those suckers in without and accidents...I do know however there would have been a twinge in the lower back a couple of days later 💪💪💪💪💪
Messimagician83 . No I never bother . As long as the beds are packed tight with sand and cement it’s fine . I only pack bricks that have come loose 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild thanks for taking the time to reply. Can I ask when packing do you use the same mortar mix of 1-5 or do you use a stronger mix like 3-1 ? And do the same mixes apply when bedding padstones or engineering bricks?
I've seen a video arguing that strong boys should not be used when holding up the weight of the first floor, instead, a needle goal post system should be used that goes through the wall of the first floor room instead. what is your opinion on this?
ahh. indeed. hey steve reading the comments below and one guy mentioned the recip saw, honest pal you ought to have one, my son bought me an hilti the other Christmas( you taking this in Alex?) and I use it on most jobs, in fact I do whatever job that needs to be done with it and I cant put it down, its like I become the terminator I get the urge to saw anything and everything in half.
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex Let the Building Inspector just check and make sure the beams are not supported by the hollow blocks, which don't have structural strenght
You don’t need to have a structural engineer but you need to know the engineer calculations so unless you’re not willing to learn then I’d recommend an engineer
Could you put steels in like this but sit them on the 100mm internal skin on a pad stone so no nib sticking out walls run through flush… or is that not enough seat
Hi, Can a RSJ be installed from the inside of a house? The beam is 5.7m long and weighs around 480kg its a 210 x 210 x 52 UC beam. Appreciate any advice?
Well, good job and process, but good practice to paint the beams before installation, plus they seem a bit of overkill, and in early part of video you say it’s 6mtr long I would say no more than 4.7 m with a span of 4.4mtr. Why at this span you need 203x133? Plus I didn’t see the spacers fitted for the bolts?
Didn't bother with paint as it was internal. I gota bit carried away with the size , your guess was better . We have another video about the steels and extra pillars we built where all is explained . As for spacers our supplier dont supply them any more they send a washer and nut for each side of each steel , way better technique 🧱👍🏽
Good work lads, nice to see how you do that. I have some of this type of work to do on a first floor extension. Looking forward to seeing the next video.....
Waw well done lads 👍 I'm back home after my six week all inclusive NHS break for one 😷😂that was one massive pair you man handled in to that tight slot I'm impressed 💪
@@SteveAndAlexBuild yes mate thank you I've still got all my bits but was unable to watch you because my phone was confiscated because I kept ordering Chinese 😂😂😂😂
I have a question. Since this is an external wall, we have one layer of bricks, then a cavity, and then from the inside another layer of bricks. I'm wondering why, from the inside, you only used acro props and boards, and didn't support the wall with needles. But on the outside, you used acro props with needles. Why didn't you use needles on the inside
Lin Cordery no need for a membrane as they are inside now . Also it’s a cavity wall so 1 for outer skin brickwork and one for the inner skin , blockwork 🧱👍🏽
I guess, neighbouring houses keep such beams in place. I guess - columns are installed on both ends to transfer beam to foundations, (so pad stones don't do the heavy lifting anymore). Just my guesses. (Trying to imagine both neighbours doing same job - and result ;)
Nice job. 👍Engineers should have to spend a bit of time on site to understand the chew on it is to get these steels in. It’s ok specifying big steels but all health and safety goes out the window on jobs like that. No room for lifting equipment and they know this as they do site visits. Makes you laugh when the recommended lifting weight is 25kg but they specify nearly 1/3 of a ton knowing the only way to get them in is by manual handling. 🤷♂️ I just did one on my gaffers house. Dividing wall between dining room and kitchen and the full back of the house 9 metres. Sat on a centre column and bolted together. Like a giant T. Engineer specified 254’s with 6mm plates welded on just to make them that bit heavier. 🥴
LookitsMeNotYou . That is so true . These are 254s , never used them that size , the bloody profile is thicker too . I’m sure 215s would have done . I hurt my back just moving them into the garden when it was just me and Al 🧱👍🏼
Another little thing I noticed, me being me lol, your structural engineer should really have stipulated you have steel sleeves in between your u.s.bs that your bolts go through. To give more rigidity and strength when you nip all the bolts up they push at both insides of the upright of the beam. And mine also without compromise has to have oxidised paint coverings.
Karl Medina We don’t do it that way any more . We put a nut either side of each steel to clamp it . On this job there was no need for any , the steels were so wide they were just clamped tight together , so going nowhere 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild oh yeah I know buddy, I wasn't telling you how to suck eggs, or that you were doing it wrong, I meant it in the sense that, even with the size of the steels if I did it that way now, our building inspector would not pass it, without either, paint coat, and or collets/spacers in the voids as I stated. They just would not pass it, I guess the guys at your end are a lot less fussy, or just realise that a lack of a bit of metal or paint isn't going to make the whole building collapse😂😂😂😂. Nice job so far guys anyway. You dodged part of my statement! I saw a frickin reciprocator!! 😆😆😆😆
@@SteveAndAlexBuild yeah I know, "showing your age now kid"😂. And secondly, I thought as much you pussy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Just kidding buddy. Get your next vid up soon. Have a good weekend,. If your not working like I have to. Bathroom renovation, got to be done fully Inc, floor to ceiling tiling. IN THREE FEKIN DAYS,eeek!
Ignorant question: could you stand and brace some 15' tall heavy timbers (like acros kind of) near the wall, resting on the ground far enough away from the wall for the lintel to fit between the wall and the timber, with a horizontal at the top of the timber, and run a block and tackle from each of the horizontals down to the steel you have to lift ?
How did u have enough space between the steel and the brick to remove the strong boys without having to then jack the steel up to catch the brick above ? Great vid that I did something similar on my house but as wasn’t living in the property we had the luxury of the wall below all removed gave us a lot of space you boys have played a blinder there every credit
mat ivie Cheers Matt . We removed the strong boys and put the acrows back in only just catching the edge of the bricks . I wish we had the wall out , we could have used a genie lift. Thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏼
Bail Train Thanks pal , we are snowed under at the moment so not taking on any more work . We work full time Monday to Friday so all the other jobs are at weekends . Thanks very much for asking though 🧱👍🏼
We were governed by the dam useless vertical damp they we had to put in . Any bigger would have bridged it and been a damp risk . Everything on this job was tight 😬🧱
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Well done guys hard graft but you got there in the end.....had a bad accident last yr putting a monster one in the back of an old 5 bed Victorian house it weighed a tonne well actually 995kg to be precise it slipped of a scaffold tube that a lad had under it for leverage it twisted and dragged my hand under!! Ended up with 3 badly shattered fingers it was that bad it shattered my finger bones long ways and severe crush damage to all 3 finger ends. Had 12 weeks off work then had to go back laying bricks with broken fingers due to lack of money!! Lucky it wasn't my trowel hand so was gripping bricks with 2 fingers to lay... bones wouldn't join back together so had to go hospital every week to have them forced. There constantly numb now nerves are gone. So i tend to steer clear of steels now if I can. Anyhow well done boys look forward to the next one 👍
Jesse , it just shows how one small mishap can have big consequences. If you watch again I actually have a near miss as we are sliding the steel through the doorway , only noticed when I edited but nearly smashed my leg against the brickwork, very close ! 😬🧱👍🏼.
Hope your hand improves for guy pal !
C Jackson, thank you for sharing your story. I am very sorry for your accident!
These videos plainly show who deserves most of the credit for the work being done...
Zac vaper Ste (dad ) 33 years experience..... Alex (son) nearly 3 years mostly working in foundations on site so nearly every job is completely new to him . I worked on my own for 23 years but now I wouldn’t work without him . He is progressing well 👍🏼👍🏼🧱
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Ahh...Father/son, that explains a lot. Glad to see him pick up the family business, good luck.
Zac vaper . Thanks pal 🧱👍🏽
Superb installation of two very heavy steels……great work guys 👍
This was a tough one 🥵🧱👍🏽
At 11 minutes in Vic has his hands in there. Done that a few weeks ago and a block came down and gave me a sore one! Well propped but poorly jointed blockwork. Good job boys. Vic is a good hand👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Bob Hendry . Cheers Bob , Vic was a massive help 🧱👍🏽
You obviously take pride in your work. Please consult a qualified engineer for temporary works. Ensure you are working to suitable standards, with acceptable factors of safety. Wouldn’t want to see you lads get hurt. Happy to chat if you’d like to talk things through at any time.
Thanks will do 🧱👍🏽
Quite labor intensive just to gain minimal amount of extra square footage....but may be the owner's best way (and probably the only way) to accomplish the task!
Great video, thanks.
arkansas13 . Very true but well worth it in the end 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Nice to see a good solid job..done with alot of effort but well...
Cheers Liam . That was a tough day 🥵🧱👍🏽
Good tip by showing putting the steels behind the strongboys first..proper job..I did alot of this kind of work in my past..did one on deansgate,took out a 16 flue chimney over 4 floors..love your uploads..proper grafters
Cheers Wayne I learned that trick the hard way . It was another tough day on the extension that fights back . It’s so satisfying now it’s all done 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Yeah man..you've done a really nice job..cant wait to see the finished job
Wayne Bailey . Nice one , thanks Wayne 🧱👍🏼
Great job boys. Always a ball ache of a job. I personally would always use a genie lift(£80ish for a day)It saves on needing an extra man and I think it’s a safer way to install large steels as it eliminates any need to strain yourselves lifting, but each to their own 👍👍
J D11 . No chance with the genie as the wall was staying in for a while 😬🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild Make the oversite height up to the same height of internal floor. Measure out where the genie legs will go and remove brickwork and blockwork so the legs can travel into the building. We've just installed a roughly 800kg steel using 2 genies in exactly the same situation as you guys. The wall below will be staying for a while. Fill in little holes with insulation or if needed just brick them back in temporarily
@@kiteboy1973 nice one 🧱👍🏽
big job this nice to see your lad progressing.great videos these
Cheers Rod 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
hi guys.working hard again, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, whoever said that aint ever lifted one of those bad buys in, fitted four similar sized last weekend, hired a genie and it didn't grant me three wishes...……… plumbing and electrics the bane of our lives steve.
harry godwinson . Absolutely Harry! Those genies really are magic in right situations 👌🏼our wall was staying in for now unfortunately so we couldn’t use one 😟🧱👍🏼
Top job guys I like you steady away with steel inch at a time and get it right you carnt afford a mistakes with them carnt wait for the next vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Mark Hep . Cheers mark , I’ve learned the hard way to price in plenty of time for things like this , as you say you can’t rush putting those bloody things in 🥵🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild you right there mate have a good weekend mate think the suns out for us as well 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Mark Hep . You too pal , it’s nearly enjoyable on site now it’s all dried up 😂🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild lol think you had it the hardest last week 👍👍👍👍
Mark Hep . It WAS. Grim , you would never know now 🧱👍🏼
Look like beasts. Hats a pretty big opening. 6m? Did the SE not specify steel piers or deeper foundation pads? Assume that wall is holding up the first floor joists, roof and new pitched roof for extension?
Zed Man . No just specified massive steels , we think they were too big just to be on the safe side . They were horrible getting them in 🧱👍🏼
You boys are the knees bees. Well done!!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🏆🏆🏆
Thanks pal , Vic was a massive help 👌🏼🧱
Hi steve have you ever used extra long acrows to prop both walls from.one side
No pal 🧱👍🏽
Get yourself a genie lifter your on a nice flat base good builders backs hernias and other problems. You are a hero on the day until your backs gone think lads.
You can’t use a genie lift if the wall is still in 🙄🧱👍🏽
Bloody awkward job but you always find a way to get the job done , great work lads 👊🏻
Thanks Marc 🧱👍🏽
Great job! Not for me though I can not stand it when extensions are done wall knocked through and there is a great big beam now smack bang in the middle of the room.......
Another 3 courses up and an internal beam with an extended bottom lip, it would of gave support to the joists on first floor and a flush ceiling through to opening.
Doing this takes no extra time, is a little more on cost of beam and gives a 100% better finish.
Neither less you did a grand job keep it up, its not your fault it's these architect that get a good wage for a third of a thought!
Sean Coles mmmm I like the sound of your method sounds good 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Our Props Make this possible without disrupting the upstairs rooms. Needling from one side ???? check us out at sneedleprops.com great work though!!
Worked out beautifully at the end 👍💪🙏
I wished other builders and bricklayers had mentality and work ethics as you gentlemen, god bless
Thanks very much pal 🧱👍🏽
Didn’t realize that the North of England is in an earthquake zone!!
Great video!!
Rod
Rod Fair mmmmm we think the architect may have gone a size up to be in the safe side . These things we’re way over engineered .... should have got him to help put them in 🥵🧱👍🏽
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex An architect specified them? Here it can only be either civil or structural engineer
Helicrete Sydney .😬🧱👍🏽
Helicrete Sydney agreed, only be specified by an engineer!
Findme Atglen All the drawings were checked and passed by the local authority inspectors 🧱👍🏼
Loving this series of videos on this extension, lads. A proper head scratcher working every move out well in advance so you don't give yourself even more hassle further down the line. The kind of job Alex will learn more on in a couple of weekends than 6 months building straightforward boxes on site!
Jim Newlands Thanks Jim it’s great to get one of these every so often to get stuck into and yes it’s all new stuff for Al to gain valuable experience 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.well done lads..
moxie mulgrew Cheers pal , thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏼
Good evening another good video by a top team awesome thanks 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Phil Glover . Cheers Phil , we couldn’t have managed this one without super Vic 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
Very clean install, quick question do you not put anything between the beam and the insulation coming from above?
Thanks pal .
The gap was insulated before plasterboard went Over and there was a cavity tray installed between the windows 🧱👍🏽
Top video but a word of warning from an old bricky site manager when propping the floor joist to hold the internal skin (or any floor joist with a brick block wall on it) be aware that some times not always check that mortar is ontop of the joist because sometimes it maybe an 8 inch joist a block is 9 inch leaving an inch gap ontop of joist if not filled in so when its propped the inside skin may drop an inch . Not having a go its just something to be aware of .
Thanks pal 🧱👍🏼
Thats worth knowing Sam, thanks.
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Tough days work there but rewarding well done lads
YoungCarReviews . Thanks pal , the whole job was like that 👌🏼🧱
Thanks for watching and commenting
Well done chaps!!!.. She's a beast!... I commented a while back that I used to bricklay 2ith my old man who died and after watching your videos I'm back to it tha k you guys so much!!
chris richards Evening Chris , that’s great to hear mate and it really means a lot to us that our videos have helped .
Thanks for watching out channel pal and for contributing to our comments 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
Awesome job Guys !
Jay Puyenbroeck . Cheers jay another tough job , this one battled us all the way .
When do we see some more vids from you pal ? 🧱👍🏽
Super job lads . Always a bit of a struggle those steels .is she an 80s house insulation looks very thin .
bric bybrick . Thanks pal . Not fun this one ! The house is actually mid 90 s , probably one of the last done before the World went insulation crazy 😂🧱👍🏼
Thanks Guys. Got a hopefully slightly simpler job coming up. Great hints and tips - like having the steels in place before the acros 🤦♂️
David Crest good luck 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
Get into lads. These are the more interesting jobs. A bit of a challenge some times and change from the norm. 👍
Helicrete Sydney .Definitely a challenge ! But very satisfying once they are in 🧱👍🏼
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex A little tip for you guys if you have the setup, space and time allows. I get some scaffold tubes and clips and put them between the props. It helps to brace the props and allows you to slide your steels on the scaffold tubes into position ready for lifting into place. Cheers
Helicrete Sydney . Sounds good 👌🏼 thanks for the tip pal 🧱👍🏽
Great job guys.
Why did you not need bolt sleeves?
Is it because Flanges touch
Cheers pal . Yes it was 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild nice, I'm in same position, engineer spec said sleeves for bolts, but flanges will touch and do job.
Oh also, my steels ain't painted, is that ok to?
Cheers
@@ivegotaporscheandalambo3318 ideally they should be painted . Ours weren’t because the back wall became the internal wall so they will never get wet 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild good shout, thanks.
Still watching yet vlogs.
I'm a landscaper doing my own extension, so getting good tips.👍
@@ivegotaporscheandalambo3318 Nice one pal , good luck with the project 👌🏼👍🏼🧱
Just as expected, very professionally done
Jim Jam . Thanks pal , much appreciated 🧱👍🏽
Great video guys! Just wondering how yous would of shored the internal wall up if the joists had of been running parallel with steel 🤔
czx68 . Thanks pal , probably strong boys. 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild u would put needles through the wall but involves going up into the next floor above joist height ,but also u could lift the steels into the ceiling void hiding them
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Great well done guys
Cheers pal 🧱👍🏽
Everyone needs a "Vic" in their life. Good work lads. Have you tried a genie lift? They make those steels so much easier and safer to put in. £50 half day hire....worth every penny!!! Good vid as always lads 👍🏻✌🏼
Rodian Montague Builds . Used them a few times , unfortunately we had to leave the back of the house in place till the roof went on so no genie 😬😫🧱👍🏼
You boys earnt your money, heavy work
Michael Lovett . Glad this one is over , those steels were not fun . 🧱👍🏼
Nice video lads top job as usual 👍👌
Thanks very much 😁🧱👍🏽
come on guys a young lad [alex] should have them little steels on his shoulders put them in place n just left you to do the hard work ,,,, bolting up n drinking tea lololol brill job guys
mick broadbent Cheers Mick , I’ll have a word 😂😂🧱👍🏽
hi when you pushed the steel beams up to there final poistion snug tight to the under bricks could you put a light butter of mortar along the beam to make it super tight in its final position?
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Alright guys looking good 👌
Hope the weather has been good to you this week. Have a good evening 👍🇬🇧⚒
RJM Bricklaying & Outdoors . This week has been a belter in the north west , shorts and sunscreen 🧴 finally ! 🥳. You have a good weekend too pal🧱👍🏼
Nice vid! I am installing RSJ's at the weekend but my joists run parallel with the RSJ. Any idea how I can prop the wall inside? Trying not to disturb the existing bathroom upstairs
We’ve just had the same and we used strong boys on the acrows 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
6x2 timbers sent threw wall, at appropriate spacing. Screw straight into the parallel joists with an acro's at each point and a acro's on other side of wall. (Needles) basically instal rsj's you can then cut the outside of the 6x2's lengths off and leave the inside screwed to joists, making an even more sturdier joists 👍
Hi Steve do you always take the wall out first then the steel in .obviously propped first
No we left the wall in on this one till the roof went on the extension. We filmed that too 🧱👍🏽
But it can be cant it
@@matthewingham8579 yes pal 🧱👍🏽
very impressive thanks for uploading..
farabhi ahmed . Cheers and thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏽
Hi guys, do you pack any mortar between the pad stone and the RSJ? Or is it purely just sat on it.
Not sure how you get the padstone super tight under the RSJ if you put it in after the beam is in position.
Thanks
Patrick O'Connor . We try to put the steel directly into the pad stone then pack the pad stone up tight with slate 💪🏼🧱👍🏽
It would have been sensible to have had the steel beams painted with a rust paint, red oxide would be good, good practice boys, well done with the beam work excellent.
A voice In the wildernes . A good point pal 🤔, thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏽
Do you ever suppport the beams on steel posts at the end of opening?, rather than bearing on the brick?
Not done one yet and try to avoid large steel jobs 🧱👍🏽
Good work well done
Giuseppe Trento cheers, thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏽
I don't know how you guys keep going with that wait
Mmm I got a twitch in my back getting into the garden 😖😖🧱👍🏽
très bon travail
good sjob
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Good stuff, fellas. How do you reckon I'd go, doing the same, with a 100yr old spanish adobe building?
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@@SteveAndAlexBuild 🤣That doesn’t sound encouraging!
@@christopherhammond4490 😆🧱👍🏽
Great video, I’m doing an extension and Loft conversion myself, I’ve interpreted it as minimum 150mm of the steal onto pad stone at each end? Didn’t really look like you had the space for any longer
Tyrone Thompson . No we didn’t have much space for anything on this job !
As for seating for lintels and steels your right 150 mm is the minimum 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Instead of using steel in the loft have you considered plyweb beams, I used these, I did it all by myself following engineer plans, you still have to use a steel plate to lock them in at each end and a concrete pad but it only takes one person to do? Just a thought...
Awesome videos guys, Great to see you two working together so well. I do this same job quite often and always use "Brick Brace" as well as propping- you get a load more room to work. Check out the full set, well worth the money. I also use a genie as that saves a lot of stress !! I've got 2 ridge beams to do 305x305mm one at 21m & one at 17m spliced at 5m - big crane for those 😂😂. Have a great weekend. Regards Tim
Tim Margereson . Jeeese these would look like cocktail sticks to those bruisers your putting in ! I’ve used the genie a couple of times , they are superb . The only snag is you need the wall out to use them . We only did the demolition the back wall after the roof went on so the house stayed secure . Thanks for the tips though , always welcome . Cheers 🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild No probs, definitely look at the "Brick Brace" system. I use the full set with a scaffold pole bolted into them and they would support the opening by themselves. If this is the sort of thing you do often - get a set, I promise you won't regret it !!!! And no they don't pay me !!!!!
Tim Margereson Deffo worth looking into cheers 🧱👍🏼
Great vid. I have a question and I am a complete amateur so this might be obvious to some, but what happens to any moisture that penetrates the brick work from above the extension. Would it not just run down the inside of the cavity and end up on the steel. If anyone can advise that would be great! Thanks
There is another video showing me installing a cavity tray 🧱👍🏽
Steels can't be 6m but neither here or there it's all heavy graft no matter what size steel it is, I was putting in a few internal steels when it was raining last week, dusty and heavy work but a change is as good as a break.
Quality work as per usual lads👍
wheaten bread . No , that was a cock up . They a 4365 mm ..... but they felt like 6 m 😬. They were 254 x 146 x 31 . 😩🧱👍🏽
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex not 30 stone per steel then 135kg and 21 stone. Still good going. I’ll be genie lifting mine in .
Benjamin Harvey . A. Genie would have been great but we had to leave the wall in 😬🧱👍🏼
Great vid lads, clearly shows all the effort & pain, not just the highlights! I've got one of those @5.5m long to do soon..
Carl . Thanks pal and best of luck with your steels 🧱👍🏼
I want to do a extension at home and put 2 steels in to take the external from joist height to wallplate,my question is can the steels sit on padstones on 100mm bearing or single leave of blockwork one side on a cavity wall and on 100mm on the other on 9" wall (old house) and take the new extension cavity wall over the kitchen,any advice be appreciated. Cheers ,great job by the way
100 mm doesn’t sound enough . You really need a structure engineer to do the calculations and a Plan .
There is a follow up video to this one where I had to go back and build new pillars at each end as the council condemned the drawing and calcs that had been done .
Well l thought it was a minimum of 150 mm thanks for the advice
@@markcordwell2035 me too and that’s what we allowed at first but the council engineer didn’t like it . Good luck with your extension 🧱👍🏽
Just watching this reminds me of how I fractured 5 vertebrae doing this work, the specialist said it wasn’t that particular morning that did it, it was the previous 45 years of lifting these and the farmers friends 18x9x6 blocks then the 11” footing blocks came in, when I was serving my time my journeyman brickie said that if I see concrete blocks on the site jack it in, you’re a bricklayer not a blocklayer leave the blocks for the country lads you concentrate on the brick, wish I’d listened to him 😜
The construction industry is a very hard industry 🥵🥵🧱👍🏽
As they say up North ..Isn’t Building a flaming Maul .. tough job boys but with your combined experience and skill you got those suckers in without and accidents...I do know however there would have been a twinge in the lower back a couple of days later 💪💪💪💪💪
Ronnie Biggs . Thanks Ronnie and yes the back was playing up for about 10 days after 🧱👍🏼
Did you need to use slate to pack above the beam before removing the props?
Messimagician83 . No I never bother . As long as the beds are packed tight with sand and cement it’s fine . I only pack bricks that have come loose 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild thanks for taking the time to reply. Can I ask when packing do you use the same mortar mix of 1-5 or do you use a stronger mix like 3-1 ? And do the same mixes apply when bedding padstones or engineering bricks?
Messimagician83 . We always use 4 to 1 for all our work 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
I've seen a video arguing that strong boys should not be used when holding up the weight of the first floor, instead, a needle goal post system should be used that goes through the wall of the first floor room instead. what is your opinion on this?
There are multiple ways to prop an opening 🧱👍🏽
ahh. indeed. hey steve reading the comments below and one guy mentioned the recip saw, honest pal you ought to have one, my son bought me an hilti the other Christmas( you taking this in Alex?) and I use it on most jobs, in fact I do whatever job that needs to be done with it and I cant put it down, its like I become the terminator I get the urge to saw anything and everything in half.
harry godwinson . Lol😂😂 love that Harry I’m just plain scared of them 😟, I’m convinced the blade is going to shatter into pieces . 😬👍🏼🧱
You made that look too easy lads great job
Richard Powell 😂😂It bloody wasn’t though ! 🥵🥵, not fun this one , that was a full 8 hours 🧱👍🏼
Wow, are you guys sure the support for those beams are strong enough? Its supporting on the sides and middle?only on brickwork?
Standard procedure mate 🧱👍🏽
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex Let the Building Inspector just check and make sure the beams are not supported by the hollow blocks, which don't have structural strenght
Findme Atglen . As of yesterday there are two substantial pillars at each end . Stay tuned for the vid where all will be explained 🧱👍🏼
Bricklaying With Steve and Alex looking forward to the new video. Glad it's resolved, was worried about it.
Findme Atglen 🧱👍🏽
AI SIM,,,SHOW DE BOLA,,UM FORTE ABRAÇO A EQUIPE
MÃO NA OBRA MIRO STARSUPER . 😂😂💪🏽🥵🧱👍🏼
You made that look easy but I know it wasn’t far play lads 👌
youre not kidding , i did actually hurt my back on this job 🥵🧱👍🏽
How do you work out what steel you need.
Do you have to have a structural engineer?
paul davison . Yes pal you do , not cheap but necessary 😬🧱👍🏼
You don’t need to have a structural engineer but you need to know the engineer calculations so unless you’re not willing to learn then I’d recommend an engineer
Joshua Naismith . Very true 🧱👍🏼
Could you put steels in like this but sit them on the 100mm internal skin on a pad stone so no nib sticking out walls run through flush… or is that not enough seat
Its all down to the structural engineer .
the council condemned these steels and made us build new pillars to support them 🧱👍🏽
Hi, Can a RSJ be installed from the inside of a house? The beam is 5.7m long and weighs around 480kg its a 210 x 210 x 52 UC beam. Appreciate any advice?
Sorry without seeing the job I can’t give a definite answer , sorry pal 😬🧱🧱
just spray some foam adhesive that should glue everything together
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In 1:10 what tool is being used to rip out that wallpaper and plasterboard(I think it's plasterboard?) and go back to brick?
Sir Xenon It is a standard crobar like Harry and Marv use in Home Alone .😉🧱👍🏽
Cracking job lads,brought back a few memories.
CHeers Les ...... bad memories I expect 😂😂😬🧱👍🏼
Well, good job and process, but good practice to paint the beams before installation, plus they seem a bit of overkill, and in early part of video you say it’s 6mtr long I would say no more than 4.7 m with a span of 4.4mtr. Why at this span you need 203x133? Plus I didn’t see the spacers fitted for the bolts?
Didn't bother with paint as it was internal. I gota bit carried away with the size , your guess was better . We have another video about the steels and extra pillars we built where all is explained . As for spacers our supplier dont supply them any more they send a washer and nut for each side of each steel , way better technique 🧱👍🏽
Didn’t fancy slotting the steel over the floor joists?
Benjamin Harvey mmmm 🤔very true 🧱👍🏽
Hi
Wont the beam rust and force cracks same as lintels ? Awesome vids btw
smeggedup . No it should be fine because it’s all internal and protected from the elements 👌🏼.
Thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏼
Good work lads, nice to see how you do that. I have some of this type of work to do on a first floor extension. Looking forward to seeing the next video.....
Glen Fraser . Thanks Glen , steels are rarely easy ! Good luck with yours 🧱👍🏼
Waw well done lads 👍 I'm back home after my six week all inclusive NHS break for one 😷😂that was one massive pair you man handled in to that tight slot I'm impressed 💪
🤔😂😂 Cheers David , hope your all better now 😷🤒🤕🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild yes mate thank you I've still got all my bits but was unable to watch you because my phone was confiscated because I kept ordering Chinese 😂😂😂😂
David Burt 😬😂😂🧱👍🏽
Hi pal what size beans were these
Sorry pal no idea this video is 5 years old !😬🧱👍🏽
Do the nuts have to be welded too?
ANTONIOS . Not that I’m aware of 🧱👍🏼
Great work guys. Have you got any more vids about the rest of this project?
Leetaap Rayzaanio yes we made about 9 videos from this job . Have look in our playlists under Extensions 🧱👍🏽
I have a question. Since this is an external wall, we have one layer of bricks, then a cavity, and then from the inside another layer of bricks. I'm wondering why, from the inside, you only used acro props and boards, and didn't support the wall with needles. But on the outside, you used acro props with needles. Why didn't you use needles on the inside
The floor joists run onto the wall so we support those which in turn support the wall above 🧱👍🏽
why was it needed for 2 rsj steve wouldnt 1 have been enough also shouldnt some kind of membrane been put underneath them
Lin Cordery no need for a membrane as they are inside now . Also it’s a cavity wall so 1 for outer skin brickwork and one for the inner skin , blockwork 🧱👍🏽
I have the distinct impression that whoever lives there was not going to be cooking at home that night.
l wilton Ah they have more sense than that , they ain’t moving in till it’s all done 🧱👍🏼
Question. Are there 2 padstones on each end?
ANTONIOS yes there are and as of today two extra pillars 🧱👍🏼
Sorry guys, what do you mean two extra pillars?
I guess, neighbouring houses keep such beams in place. I guess - columns are installed on both ends to transfer beam to foundations, (so pad stones don't do the heavy lifting anymore). Just my guesses. (Trying to imagine both neighbours doing same job - and result ;)
Nice job. 👍Engineers should have to spend a bit of time on site to understand the chew on it is to get these steels in. It’s ok specifying big steels but all health and safety goes out the window on jobs like that. No room for lifting equipment and they know this as they do site visits. Makes you laugh when the recommended lifting weight is 25kg but they specify nearly 1/3 of a ton knowing the only way to get them in is by manual handling. 🤷♂️ I just did one on my gaffers house. Dividing wall between dining room and kitchen and the full back of the house 9 metres. Sat on a centre column and bolted together. Like a giant T. Engineer specified 254’s with 6mm plates welded on just to make them that bit heavier. 🥴
LookitsMeNotYou . That is so true . These are 254s , never used them that size , the bloody profile is thicker too . I’m sure 215s would have done . I hurt my back just moving them into the garden when it was just me and Al 🧱👍🏼
Great for giving you a hernia 🤪
Helicrete Sydney Absolutely ! 🧱👍🏽
Tough day on the shoulders.
Derek T And the back 🥵🧱👍🏼
Hey was it my eyes😲😲 or did I see a RECIPROCATING SAW on the worktop 🖒🖒🖒🖒🖒
Karl Medina Yes it was pal but it belongs to Vic 😬. He’s a joiner so he is properly tooled up 😂😂🧱👍🏼
How much weight in each steel?
Not sure exactly.... a lot 🥵! 🧱👍🏽
Another little thing I noticed, me being me lol, your structural engineer should really have stipulated you have steel sleeves in between your u.s.bs that your bolts go through. To give more rigidity and strength when you nip all the bolts up they push at both insides of the upright of the beam. And mine also without compromise has to have oxidised paint coverings.
Karl Medina We don’t do it that way any more . We put a nut either side of each steel to clamp it . On this job there was no need for any , the steels were so wide they were just clamped tight together , so going nowhere 🧱👍🏽
@@SteveAndAlexBuild oh yeah I know buddy, I wasn't telling you how to suck eggs, or that you were doing it wrong, I meant it in the sense that, even with the size of the steels if I did it that way now, our building inspector would not pass it, without either, paint coat, and or collets/spacers in the voids as I stated. They just would not pass it, I guess the guys at your end are a lot less fussy, or just realise that a lack of a bit of metal or paint isn't going to make the whole building collapse😂😂😂😂. Nice job so far guys anyway.
You dodged part of my statement! I saw a frickin reciprocator!! 😆😆😆😆
Karl Medina . It’s funny , way back in the days before steel that was wood 😂😂. As for that scary saw it was Vic’s 👌🏼🧱👍🏼
@@SteveAndAlexBuild yeah I know, "showing your age now kid"😂. And secondly, I thought as much you pussy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Just kidding buddy. Get your next vid up soon. Have a good weekend,. If your not working like I have to. Bathroom renovation, got to be done fully Inc, floor to ceiling tiling. IN THREE FEKIN DAYS,eeek!
Karl Medina 😂😂. On site today making the most of the dry ground 👌🏼. Good luck with the tiling 😬🧱👍🏽
Why no cavity tray?
Cavity tray was done in another video 🧱👍🏽
Stressful day I bet !
Amateur Vegan . Very , Glad it’s over now 🥵😬🧱👍🏼
Would have put the slab in then fit steels using lifters on slab always fit a wide dcp on top of steels (last line of defence) then built brickwork..
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Top job lads you need Eddie hall to do that sort of work for you 😂😂have a good one
Stewart rs4 . Cheers Stuart , I know an Eddie Hall , he is a big lad . We will have to get him in next time 👌🏼🧱👍🏼💪🏽
Ignorant question: could you stand and brace some 15' tall heavy timbers (like acros kind of) near the wall, resting on the ground far enough away from the wall for the lintel to fit between the wall and the timber, with a horizontal at the top of the timber, and run a block and tackle from each of the horizontals down to the steel you have to lift ?
It’s possible but that sounds a bit technical for us and we don’t have any Olof that equipment.
Thanks for the suggestion though 🧱👍🏽
How did u have enough space between the steel and the brick to remove the strong boys without having to then jack the steel up to catch the brick above ?
Great vid that I did something similar on my house but as wasn’t living in the property we had the luxury of the wall below all removed gave us a lot of space you boys have played a blinder there every credit
mat ivie Cheers Matt . We removed the strong boys and put the acrows back in only just catching the edge of the bricks . I wish we had the wall out , we could have used a genie lift.
Thanks for watching and commenting 🧱👍🏼
Always get you steels in place before strong boys as you may not be able to after the props are in the way.... you only male that mistake once!!!
Ryan Kirk Exactly! And we have all done it too 😩😂😂🧱👍🏽
Consider Brad Martin for background music. His channel is Green Mountain Metal Detecting
Pockets MacCartney . Thanks for the tip 🧱👍🏽
Yeah steve and alex. You need new background music lads. Great work videos and editing but lacking good background music for final jigsaw piece mate 👍
Steven Dunn . Sorry chaps it going to have to stay free stuff for the foreseeable I’m afraid 😬🧱👍🏼
Great work as usual guys, really enjoying the videos! How do you go about getting in touch with you about using you for a job?
Bail Train Thanks pal , we are snowed under at the moment so not taking on any more work . We work full time Monday to Friday so all the other jobs are at weekends . Thanks very much for asking though 🧱👍🏼
You didn't paint it,,??
No it didn’t come painted . Once the roof is in it’s all internal anyway so will never get wet 🧱👍🏽
Should 200mm to 300mm bearing for steels not 150mmm that’s fine for lintels .
We were governed by the dam useless vertical damp they we had to put in . Any bigger would have bridged it and been a damp risk . Everything on this job was tight 😬🧱
150mm bearing is more than ample for steels of that length and ub specification how much deflection do you think you will get. 🤔🤔👏👏
Mark Worthington . Cheers mark 🧱👍🏽
It would say on the drawings.