It turned out really nice. I’m glad you didn’t paint it. All the scratches and stuff give it character. I’ve got a few nice lanterns but my favorite are my old crusty roached out ones. I got an old agm that looks like it gave up years ago 😂. I use it when I’m smoking meat.
The old beaters are the best. And they never give up--people who can't see the beauty and value give up on them, and that is a damn shame. Your AGM and I thank you...!
Great master class on cleaning and rebuilding a Coleman stove. I have 7 different stoves from one burner to three burners. I just sprayed them down with simple green and washed. Time to stock up on Dawn and bandaids. 7 stoves at 2-3 cuts per stove - maybe a roll of gauze would also be useful! Thanks for showing us how a True Coleman Trained tech does it. Par boiled hands here I come.
Always great to watcha enjoy getting to watch, learn a little new each video. Can’t stop learning. Also, you should do a podcast, your voice is very easy to listen to 😂
Well thank you, that is interesting! I've spent months and months in different classroom sittings trying to hone my oratory skills, but I'm just not very good at it. I think way too fast for my mouth to keep up, and then I'm off subject and starting to ramble... You should see the acres of unusable film for one of these videos... But thank you, I appreciate the comment and the support!
Nice job cleaning the case! sorry you had to give some blood to do so. I've got three 425 stoves that need to be cleaned and I knew it was going to be some work.
Well thank you for that. My wife running the gimbal makes a huge difference for sure. I sure don't know everything about Colemans, but what I do know, I am happy to pass on.
You mentioned cleaning with vinegar or naval jelly, I called my local K Mart years ago to see if they carried naval jelly, the kid in the department they sent my call to said that I needed to speak to someone in the pharmacy. After I told him what it was for, he quickly said " Oh , we dont have it ". I still get a kick out of that after all these years.
Appreciate all the effort you have put into making these videos. Having completely redone a 1947 413c, including repainting the case, I can testify to the effort.
Whenever I first started collecting I thought it would be a good idea to use oven cleaner to clean my Coleman stove... Nowadays I realize you'll ask that soap and water is the best way sometimes a little simple green or a purple power is okay, But that day a long time ago I learned that oven cleaner is a wonderful and powerful paint remover. So beautiful worn oven cleaner is a no no on painted surfaces. Thank you Frank I can't wait until episode 3
Yesterday, I dug out our old 3-burner propane Coleman stove and did a full lean up on the thing. I discovered that the tubes had crap inside them. I think it was insects and webs. I took apart the burner elements and threw them into the ultrasonic cleaner with a mix of this orange cleaning stuff for these cleaners (I forget the name) mixed with some white vinegar. I was shocked how well all those pieces got cleaned. I had to use a wire brush on a drill to clean the aluminum pan under the bruners. When done, the stove now works like it's brand new. Gotta love how a little cleaning just fixes things.
Great job! Nice to see the "live" version versus the printed version from your original website that I have used and referred to since I fell in the Coleman rabbit hole in 2007. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to final assembly and lighting.
I just had to repaint my 414 case as I had to do a lot of "body" work. Same shade of green as your showing I believe. Rustoleum "DARK Hunter Green" seemed a great match. Not to be mistaken with Rustoleum "Hunter Green" though.
Oh yes sir, there are many Hunter Greens and Forest Greens. I think the 424/414/428 stoves are a couple of shades darker than the conventional older ones?
So you say that painting the manifold is your least preferred solution. What would you do otherwise? Would you oil the cleaned manifold? Which type of oil? Thanks for all the great videos!
Frank you cease to amaze me when you do such fantastic work on your restorations and clean-ups! hell I always seem to mess up and yes leaving them in the dishwashing liquid too long does peel the paint so I end up eventually putting them in the electrolysis tank I made to completely remove paint and rust then repainting them. I haven't painted the manifold or pipes though because by the time I calculate how much I already spent that VHT paint looks like I have put too much into the usually $10.00 stove I purchased then add my labor to it and time spent on it and I'd never get my money invested and everything else if someone wishes to buy it but I do get that great feeling and sense of accomplishment out of using it and others admiration of it as well! So that in itself makes it all worth the while and of course I'd tell them how I learned and refer them to you!
If you don't do this for the love of it, you're probably not going to be very happy. Taking the time to repair a machine that someone else built years ago is good for the soul. Sharing the love makes it all worthwhile.
I've used it and it works fine. If you can get past the horrific smells. I'd take soaking them in a bath while drinking sweet tea over oven cleaner any day!
@@OldTownColeman Thanks. I know that on chrome motorcycle exhaust pipes if something gets burned onto them, oven cleaner is about the only thing that works other than laborious polishing.
Thanks for these very thorough videos. I'm planning out working through some stoves and this is extremely helpful. Have you tested out using an ultrasonic cleaner for any of the parts? I just got one I'm excited to use, but still learning what I can use it to accomplish without damaging anything.
My preference is to clean and paint the rusty stuff to prevent future rust. For a user stove, I don't go crazy because if I make it too nice, I'll be hesitant to use it. Overall, the best rust preventer is bacon grease, naturally applied during the cooking process. Haha!
Hey Frank, great video as always. Great tip on not soaking the valve in vinegar. Oops! Question though...if the fuel tank does have rust, Inside, what's your approach to remdiating that? Vinegar? Hot water? Pixie dust? Thanks!
Im getting ready to do this to a coleman 9D that it bought. I like the patina on the stove but the tank is missing most of its paint including the gold stenciling.
Frank, I have been looking for some preferable direction on storage and how you should leave a lantern when not in use. Question: Do you remove all the fuel, leave fuel cap loose and put some WD40 in the tank to stop rust. Thoughts. Ken Adelaide Australia
Hello Ken! For long term storage, empty fuel and allow tank/fount to dry completely. Reinstall cap snug but not tight. If you are in a very high humidity area you might want to put a light oil inside. If you add oil, you'll have to wash it out before using the appliance again, of course. And yes, I would think WD40 would work also.
Hey there I have a stuck pile nut I just can’t seem to get off of the bolt part of the manifold. So one of them came right off and the other one just turns and turns and turns, but won’t move at all. So my manifold is kind of stuck in the stove. Is there a trick for getting out the pile nut? have you ever had this happen?
I am about to restore a 426B and I want to USE it. Any recommendation for safe REGULAR cleaning of the stove after usage? I dont want to strip the paint as you mentioned. I want to conserve the stove, maybe Owatrol, maybe a light coat of grease in the worse areas. But while cleaning fatty soot I guess I am going to remove all of my conserving agents.... any recommendation, Frank? Greetings, Lukas, who found a 426 in Germany 😊
Thanks for this video! I’m going to attempt a rebuild on my 426B in the near future. When it comes to painting the burners do you have a preference in paint or are all high temp paint’s basically the same? Thanks
They are all basically the same, and I promise that the inside of the master burner bowl will become paint-free. The direct flame goes directly at the paint and it just eats it. On my user stoves, I blue the burner bowls and caps, and they survive snowy ice fishing seasons without rust. I did a little blueing in the 502 rebuild video, but I'll do a separate one in the future dealing with rust.
There are a number of greens that Coleman used over the years, so it really depends on what appliance you are speaking of. The green case of a 426B is pretty much right down the middle of the road for the "forest green" color, of which there are 4 or 5 versions available today by different paint manufacturers. Take a piece of the stove with you to the hardware store...
Yes you can. And, you'll want to "push" a little of the cleaner through the check valve too, just so it is guaranteed to be on both sides of the check ball. Spray a good bit of cleaner down on the check valve, then put the pump in the cylinder and push it down about an inch, just to push the liquid through the valve. Then spray in more to completely covers the top of the check valve and allow it to soak.
To paint, or not to paint. I am 50/50 on this. About half of the stoves I have restored I have stripped and painted. Not sure which way I like better. I repaint stoves that are in the worst shape at time of restoration. (I have restored about 10 stoves so far).
Stoves are a very tough nut to crack. They really take a beating over the years and the optics can be horrible. There is a line between "has character" and "butt ugly," and sometimes putting lipstick on the pig makes sense. But for me, it has to be REALLY ugly for that line to even appear.
@@scottperson9487 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I would keep things original unless the rust is bad/deep and maybe just treat that particular area. Nothing looks worse to me than something that's been 'restored' and it's obvious. Now, if I have to look really hard to determine if it's NIB or restored, then the owner has done a stellar job.....most don't.
@@OldTownColeman Any parts of the lantern, as I do not want to buy the whole wrench set which have big ones for car and motorcycle, I only need those for Coleman lanterns. So please advise me those you always use to repair and service Coleman lanterns. The only wrench I have is 3/8. Thank you so much for your reply.
Due to the many possible sizes you may encounter, I'd recommend a 4in AND 6in adjustable wrench(aka crescent wrench). I recommend both. Look for ones with the least jaw wiggle(slop). They aren't as good as combination wrenches, but you'll only need 2 instead of a set. If you get a set, get SAE combination wrenches.
I'm trying to clean my stove but I can't get the spring out of the tube. I've used carb cleaner and tried tapping the tube to loosen the spring but it still won't come out. Any ideas that I might try?
Hallo Frank You do a Great job !! I am Robert from Germany and new on Goldman Collecting i got a 2 Burner and a 3 Burner Ofen and 5 laterns Not a lot gut i Working on it to get more 😁 can you send me the ISBN number from the book You show in a Video please thank You and God bless You
It turned out really nice. I’m glad you didn’t paint it. All the scratches and stuff give it character. I’ve got a few nice lanterns but my favorite are my old crusty roached out ones. I got an old agm that looks like it gave up years ago 😂. I use it when I’m smoking meat.
The old beaters are the best. And they never give up--people who can't see the beauty and value give up on them, and that is a damn shame. Your AGM and I thank you...!
Not one single cuss word when cleaning the case... amazing! 😂 👍
Oh you should hear the unedited version!
@@OldTownColeman - 🤣😂🤣
Now you're making me want to get all of mine out and clean them
Have fun! I wanna see bandaids!
Have a 426B, 413F, and a 425C. Thanks for sharing.
Very nice!
I, too, enjoy the dents, dings, scratches, and wear that tell the 60+ year story of these relics!
Great master class on cleaning and rebuilding a Coleman stove. I have 7 different stoves from one burner to three burners. I just sprayed them down with simple green and washed. Time to stock up on Dawn and bandaids. 7 stoves at 2-3 cuts per stove - maybe a roll of gauze would also be useful! Thanks for showing us how a True Coleman Trained tech does it. Par boiled hands here I come.
Well the single burners don't bite much but the others do get hungry. Good luck brother!
Great vid!! I love working on gassers!
Excellent Frank. I can’t wait to work on my stoves now.
Always great to watcha enjoy getting to watch, learn a little new each video. Can’t stop learning. Also, you should do a podcast, your voice is very easy to listen to 😂
Well thank you, that is interesting! I've spent months and months in different classroom sittings trying to hone my oratory skills, but I'm just not very good at it. I think way too fast for my mouth to keep up, and then I'm off subject and starting to ramble... You should see the acres of unusable film for one of these videos... But thank you, I appreciate the comment and the support!
Nice job cleaning the case! sorry you had to give some blood to do so. I've got three 425 stoves that need to be cleaned and I knew it was going to be some work.
A labor of love for sure.
Thank you Frank!
An extra comment for the RUclips algorithm!
Hey Frank! Love the videos. Could you do a series on disassembling and reassembling a Coleman Quicklite?
A generic one, yes. There were a lot of different configurations that I won't be able to cover but a "common" QL repair video is planned.
Nice!
Thanks!
Very well done easy to follow instructions detailed steps this a great step by step video none better than this 5 star production
Thank you Dennis!
Another good video FRANK , love anything coleman makes , stoves , lanterns etc.. THANK YOU FRANK FROM MONTANA.......
My pleasure Frank from Montana! Talk soon, Frank from Idaho.
Outstanding! Thanks, Frank!
Great watching your videos yours have better quality filming than others and you seam to know more about Coleman’s👍
Well thank you for that. My wife running the gimbal makes a huge difference for sure. I sure don't know everything about Colemans, but what I do know, I am happy to pass on.
Awesome job thus far! Would love to see a video of how you work that lantern over too!
You mentioned cleaning with vinegar or naval jelly, I called my local K Mart years ago to see if they carried naval jelly, the kid in the department they sent my call to said that I needed to speak to someone in the pharmacy. After I told him what it was for, he quickly said " Oh , we dont have it ". I still get a kick out of that after all these years.
This video is very helpful. Thank you for putting it together.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It sure would be nice if somebody came up with high temp BBQ paints that match the different Coleman colors. Just a thought . . .
Great idea!
Appreciate all the effort you have put into making these videos. Having completely redone a 1947 413c, including repainting the case, I can testify to the effort.
The 413C is a very cool color. Were you able to find an acceptable match?
Whenever I first started collecting I thought it would be a good idea to use oven cleaner to clean my Coleman stove... Nowadays I realize you'll ask that soap and water is the best way sometimes a little simple green or a purple power is okay, But that day a long time ago I learned that oven cleaner is a wonderful and powerful paint remover. So beautiful worn oven cleaner is a no no on painted surfaces. Thank you Frank I can't wait until episode 3
Oven cleaner is an excessively nasty product that I avoid. I've used it too, and learned the hard way too. It works but just isn't necessary...
Another great job Frank! LOVED the joke!! Maybe he was lighting a 530!?
Oh very possible!
amazing work, brought out a great shine to it can't wait to see it completed.
Thanks a bunch!
Alright, I have entered full on Cannon Ball into this rabbit hole. This channel is freakin Great!. Awesome job man😎👍
Yesterday, I dug out our old 3-burner propane Coleman stove and did a full lean up on the thing.
I discovered that the tubes had crap inside them. I think it was insects and webs.
I took apart the burner elements and threw them into the ultrasonic cleaner with a mix of this orange cleaning stuff for these cleaners (I forget the name) mixed with some white vinegar.
I was shocked how well all those pieces got cleaned.
I had to use a wire brush on a drill to clean the aluminum pan under the bruners.
When done, the stove now works like it's brand new.
Gotta love how a little cleaning just fixes things.
That lamp in the intro... well, it s on my wish list
Excellent! Thank you for these videos!
Glad you like them!
@@OldTownColeman I’m a new Coleman collector and all your videos and website have been very helpful!
@@silvermine2033 tell me about your handle. Are you a silver miner?
@@OldTownColeman No, but I wish! Just an area of Connecticut that I live in called Silvermine.
Great job! Nice to see the "live" version versus the printed version from your original website that I have used and referred to since I fell in the Coleman rabbit hole in 2007. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to final assembly and lighting.
Frank! Hello!
You are awesome. Thank you for sharing your knowledge in such a well thought out production. Throughly enjoy your videos. Thank you.
Thank you, we appreciate that.
Nice job 👏👏👏 , can you make videos about the new models coleman stoves and lanterns, stoves 508 - 533 .
Thank you so much and God bless you 🙏
In the works and thank you!
I just had to repaint my 414 case as I had to do a lot of "body" work. Same shade of green as your showing I believe. Rustoleum "DARK Hunter Green" seemed a great match. Not to be mistaken with Rustoleum "Hunter Green" though.
Oh yes sir, there are many Hunter Greens and Forest Greens. I think the 424/414/428 stoves are a couple of shades darker than the conventional older ones?
Does Coleman sell spray paint of their color's?
@@tomwilliams8675 I have not seen that they do in any parts search for my gear ever. However, I am not any expert.
So you say that painting the manifold is your least preferred solution. What would you do otherwise? Would you oil the cleaned manifold? Which type of oil?
Thanks for all the great videos!
I'm with you I enjoy something more that looks like it's worked hard it's whole life
You mean like us?
@OldTownColeman no joke! And keep the videos coming I appreciate it
I agree! Keep the patina and show its had a life, just stop the rust where it lay.
Frank you cease to amaze me when you do such fantastic work on your restorations and clean-ups! hell I always seem to mess up and yes leaving them in the dishwashing liquid too long does peel the paint so I end up eventually putting them in the electrolysis tank I made to completely remove paint and rust then repainting them. I haven't painted the manifold or pipes though because by the time I calculate how much I already spent that VHT paint looks like I have put too much into the usually $10.00 stove I purchased then add my labor to it and time spent on it and I'd never get my money invested and everything else if someone wishes to buy it but I do get that great feeling and sense of accomplishment out of using it and others admiration of it as well! So that in itself makes it all worth the while and of course I'd tell them how I learned and refer them to you!
If you don't do this for the love of it, you're probably not going to be very happy. Taking the time to repair a machine that someone else built years ago is good for the soul. Sharing the love makes it all worthwhile.
Fantastic thanks!
My luck with Evaporust is that it blackens some steel parts. Easy to polish back out though. I've wondered about using oven cleaner on the grates?
I've used it and it works fine. If you can get past the horrific smells. I'd take soaking them in a bath while drinking sweet tea over oven cleaner any day!
@@OldTownColeman Thanks. I know that on chrome motorcycle exhaust pipes if something gets burned onto them, oven cleaner is about the only thing that works other than laborious polishing.
Thanks for these very thorough videos. I'm planning out working through some stoves and this is extremely helpful. Have you tested out using an ultrasonic cleaner for any of the parts? I just got one I'm excited to use, but still learning what I can use it to accomplish without damaging anything.
My preference is to clean and paint the rusty stuff to prevent future rust. For a user stove, I don't go crazy because if I make it too nice, I'll be hesitant to use it. Overall, the best rust preventer is bacon grease, naturally applied during the cooking process. Haha!
My dogs agree. They love the stoves before I get to them...
Hey Frank, great video as always. Great tip on not soaking the valve in vinegar. Oops!
Question though...if the fuel tank does have rust,
Inside, what's your approach to remdiating that? Vinegar? Hot water? Pixie dust?
Thanks!
Evaporust works great.
Im getting ready to do this to a coleman 9D that it bought. I like the patina on the stove but the tank is missing most of its paint including the gold stenciling.
Frank, I have been looking for some preferable direction on storage and how you should leave a lantern when not in use. Question: Do you remove all the fuel, leave fuel cap loose and put some WD40 in the tank to stop rust. Thoughts. Ken Adelaide Australia
Hello Ken! For long term storage, empty fuel and allow tank/fount to dry completely. Reinstall cap snug but not tight. If you are in a very high humidity area you might want to put a light oil inside. If you add oil, you'll have to wash it out before using the appliance again, of course. And yes, I would think WD40 would work also.
Hey there I have a stuck pile nut I just can’t seem to get off of the bolt part of the manifold. So one of them came right off and the other one just turns and turns and turns, but won’t move at all. So my manifold is kind of stuck in the stove. Is there a trick for getting out the pile nut? have you ever had this happen?
I am about to restore a 426B and I want to USE it. Any recommendation for safe REGULAR cleaning of the stove after usage? I dont want to strip the paint as you mentioned. I want to conserve the stove, maybe Owatrol, maybe a light coat of grease in the worse areas. But while cleaning fatty soot I guess I am going to remove all of my conserving agents.... any recommendation, Frank?
Greetings, Lukas, who found a 426 in Germany 😊
Thanks for this video! I’m going to attempt a rebuild on my 426B in the near future. When it comes to painting the burners do you have a preference in paint or are all high temp paint’s basically the same? Thanks
They are all basically the same, and I promise that the inside of the master burner bowl will become paint-free. The direct flame goes directly at the paint and it just eats it. On my user stoves, I blue the burner bowls and caps, and they survive snowy ice fishing seasons without rust. I did a little blueing in the 502 rebuild video, but I'll do a separate one in the future dealing with rust.
@@OldTownColeman I will be looking forward to the blueing video! I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos and sharing your knowledge!
Thanks for the great video!
Question: Wouldn't the wax just melt off when you use the stove and it heats up?
Can one use pump gas in a stove just like a lantern?
Yes. Lowest octane, highest quality regular unleaded. But, there is a bit of an additional odor/fumes that may alter the taste if you're not careful.
So if you did have to clean the inside of the fuel tank, what would you use to clean it?
Great job Frank thank you for showing us . What color do you recommend to be the closest color to coleman green
From my research, "Hunter Green" by Rustoleum is pretty close
And that is for the font. If you are redoing the hat, you will need a high-heat spray. Ill let Frank take it from here!
There are a number of greens that Coleman used over the years, so it really depends on what appliance you are speaking of. The green case of a 426B is pretty much right down the middle of the road for the "forest green" color, of which there are 4 or 5 versions available today by different paint manufacturers. Take a piece of the stove with you to the hardware store...
If I cannot get the check valve out, could I spray carb cleaner down inside it?
Yes you can. And, you'll want to "push" a little of the cleaner through the check valve too, just so it is guaranteed to be on both sides of the check ball. Spray a good bit of cleaner down on the check valve, then put the pump in the cylinder and push it down about an inch, just to push the liquid through the valve.
Then spray in more to completely covers the top of the check valve and allow it to soak.
Is it possible to buy an Old Town Coleman apron?
It's on his store website.
To paint, or not to paint. I am 50/50 on this. About half of the stoves I have restored I have stripped and painted. Not sure which way I like better. I repaint stoves that are in the worst shape at time of restoration. (I have restored about 10 stoves so far).
As they say with any restoration; it's only original once.....
Stoves are a very tough nut to crack. They really take a beating over the years and the optics can be horrible. There is a line between "has character" and "butt ugly," and sometimes putting lipstick on the pig makes sense. But for me, it has to be REALLY ugly for that line to even appear.
@@TheReal1953 Rust is the reason for painting. Original and rusted out to me is not as good as rust removed and still a viable tool.
@@scottperson9487 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. I would keep things original unless the rust is bad/deep and maybe just treat that particular area. Nothing looks worse to me than something that's been 'restored' and it's obvious. Now, if I have to look really hard to determine if it's NIB or restored, then the owner has done a stellar job.....most don't.
@@TheReal1953 I think we are talking about a tool that is used like a tool and not for showing at a stove show, not a 1969 Mach 1 Mustang.
Hi, for Coleman lantern and stove, what wrench I must have? Thank you for your help.
A wrench for what part sir?
@@OldTownColeman Any parts of the lantern, as I do not want to buy the whole wrench set which have big ones for car and motorcycle, I only need those for Coleman lanterns. So please advise me those you always use to repair and service Coleman lanterns. The only wrench I have is 3/8. Thank you so much for your reply.
Due to the many possible sizes you may encounter, I'd recommend a 4in AND 6in adjustable wrench(aka crescent wrench). I recommend both. Look for ones with the least jaw wiggle(slop). They aren't as good as combination wrenches, but you'll only need 2 instead of a set. If you get a set, get SAE combination wrenches.
what colour green do the use?
I'm trying to clean my stove but I can't get the spring out of the tube. I've used carb cleaner and tried tapping the tube to loosen the spring but it still won't come out. Any ideas that I might try?
Да, просто хорошо прогрейте трубку сверху и вытаскивайте пока гарячая немного вкрутив в пружину подходящий саморез на пару витков
Mine wasn't too bad, but did have some grease caked in the corners. I just sprayed mine down with wd40 and the grease came right up with paper towels.
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Interesting video, mayb wear thick rubber kitchen gloves 🧤 stop the cutting ✂️ hands cheers Graham
Left a spring from a lantern generator in vinegar for too long and it practically disintegrated!
Cant find video one
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Hallo Frank You do a Great job !! I am Robert from Germany and new on Goldman Collecting i got a 2 Burner and a 3 Burner Ofen and 5 laterns Not a lot gut i Working on it to get more 😁 can you send me the ISBN number from the book You show in a Video please thank You and God bless You
Hello, which book are you referring to? The thick collector book?
Hallo Frank 👍thank You for your this Yes that big One 😉
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OR...the guy going up says "Do you know anything about propane bbq grills?"