How to fix a Coleman 425B - 2 Burner Camp Stove
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- In this video I'll show you how I got this Coleman 425b running very well. Enjoy!
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FYI if you're going to work on alot of these, Coleman recommends neetsfeet oil for the leather cup which won't degrade it. Soak for 24 hours if it's a new leather cup.
And for PTFE tape use the blue kind that won't fall apart from petroleum products coming into contact with it.
Top notch. I'm in my late 60s and my next younger brother a couple years behind and I have been griping that all the local old hardware shops that serviced things like our Coleman stove are gone or no one does it any more. All I needed was a good swift kick in the rear and your video to help energize me to do it myself. Last deer season, the ol' stove (maybe only 20 years old) was acting up and we were concerned it'd stop working. Suddenly, on the old aluminum camp table, it burst into big flames and we stood back not knowing what would happen. After about 3 minutes of blazing, it stopped, we turned it all off, waited for it to cool down and then is began working perfect. Not the best way to clean it out. Now I'll do it the right way before our deer hunt two weeks from now. Thank you for the great video! -- Out in Orygun
Wow. That's scary. Glad no one was hurt.
Man dad gave me this exact stove with 30 year old fuel still in it. Your video has motivated me to try and get it working again!
And that's the drawback in that tank design- they're a pain in the arse to empty and clean out. :D
I am 10, thanks for the info. I really enjoyed the video to clean my stove my Mom found at the thrift store for 5 dollars! -Howie
Good deal on that stove. And, good for you rebuilding stuff and to your mom for giving you stuff to rebuild. Knowing how to turn a wrench is a good life lesson.
That’s awesome - glad you’re excited about turning old things back to new !
You do not want to tighten the nut that holds the long needle in the generator too tight because you will not be able to turn the black knob to turn the gas on or off. There is a packing in there that keeps the fuel from coming out around the brass nut that holds it in. Just tighten it to where the knob turns freely and not hard. If overtightened it will ruin the packing seal in there and the valve will begin to leak fuel out behind the black knob.
Your video demonstrates how forgiving Coleman stoves are. A good example of a partial tuneup.
It's unbelievable how this brings back memories, the sound of the stove, the smell of my dad cooking fish and he used to pressure cook potatoes on that stove by the lake. Great vid
An hour of maintenance and a lifetime of memories in a little green suitcase.
Thank you JuJitsu2000 for the finger nail polish tip! I had a leak around the jet and I put a little of my wife's nail polish on it, stop it right away. 👍👍
I bought a 425E today for $20! I cleaned it a little bit and checked the tank, no rust and put oil on the leather cup... Works great!! I love these old stoves.......Great video brother!!
I own 2 of these. One from the early 80s and one from the early 2000s. I pull them out from time to time and make sure they work. Awesome stoves.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience on fixing these different stoves
Mate - great video. Just one thing, it ain't 'corrosion' on the needle stem, rather it is carbon build up from the burnt fuel. Tip; you can use a little fuel injector cleaner every couple of tanks and keeps the carbon build up down.
Just got one for $6 and after watching this will get it working. Thank you!
Very well done!!!! I have the one that my Dad used when he climbed Mt Whiney after his discharge from the USN in 1946. It works great and I have many, many wonderful memories of the two of us camping with the Boy Scouts.
Exactly What I was looking for! Thank you SO very much for sharing these maintenance steps. I feel a bit more confident now to repair my own 2 burner Coleman
What a great video! It explains everything so well! My wife and I bought a double burner Coleman stove at an estate sale the other day for $20. We both knew that was a monster of a deal. It’s date stamped 8/79, so that makes it about a year younger than both of us. I started playing with it that day. It wouldn’t light after following the directions to a T. I then started with the tank and tube. Everything looked good there. I sprayed some WD40 down the tube for insurance. I put the tube back on and some fuel came out the end of the tube so that’s good. I will try it again and see it if will flame. If not that then problem must be in the burners. It has a tank full of white gas I suppose of unknown age but when I poured a little on the sidewalk it flamed up big and yellow with good heat, so that shouldn’t be the problem. Even though it’s pretty well self explanatory, I want to thank you very much for the help!
I have this exact model from my father-in-law and and this this video was very helpful. I was going to throw it out but now I think I will try to make a few repairs with your video.. Thank you
I was glad to see how you cleaned the generator! I have several of these 425s
I just bought a used stove in really good condition for 25 thanks for sharing subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
I needed a video like this last year, I'm finding it because I'm once again trying to fix it, thanks for an in-depth video
Thanks for sharing this. I have three of these and don't use them much. Good to know how to do a good general maintenance on them. Nice pro tip with the nail polish lock tight 👍.
Great video and very informative. I just bought a Coleman Stove from 1980. It had little use by the look of it and It fired up just fine. I may do a tear down and cleanup of it just like you did with this one......Take care, Bluefin.
Thanks so much been using a camp stove inherited from my in-laws for years and never took it apart and now I know how to many thanks ! Yep my stove working fine ...
Been waiting for this!
I got a 413H Coleman stove and the black knob won't turn... after watching this video, I figured maybe the screw might be tightened too tight.
Thank you for posting this!
What a score. I really enjoy your videos working on different type of camping stoves. Blessings brother. Have a good week.
Got a couple of those older stoves on Craigslist- in the freebie section, no less. A 425 and some older model (413?), supposedly designed for gasoline. Also found one of the old white-gas lanterns for cheap, and in good condition, at a garage sale.
Thanks for the video. I just restored my 425B by mirroring your step by step! Gracias. -Jim
Great video! This has inspired me to get out my Father-in-Laws old Coleman stove and fire it up for some outdoors cooking. Thank you.
I found one yesterday for $10 so I was excited too. Mine has the gold colored tank.
Excellent!!
i need to get mine out and clean them .when my uncle passed my cousin gave me his camping stuff.they were 2 coleman stoves one with 2 burners and the 2nd with 3 burners been over a year its time to get them out and clean them . thanks to you i know how now
I'm sorry to hear of your loss. I will be releasing a video restoring a 3 burner here in the near future
Coleman gasoline powered stoves and lamps are very well made, just a little maintenance from time to time, and you'll be rewarded with a dependable item, i have an original 220b from 1935 that still run like a champ, also the Coleman 533 stove and a Coleman 214-700 kerosene single mantle. I prefered them over propane powered ones.
Great video! It’ll help me get my same stove in proper working order. Thanks for doing this!
Good video thanks for the detailed brake down I have a few of these stoves and none of them ran like yours tell I cleaned them like that
I to picked up a 425B Coleman stove at the Goodwill also! I have to oil lubricate or replace the leather on the pump To pressurize the tank! Thanks for a very informative interesting video!
Great video bud!!! I love these old stoves...
Thank you from Great Britain, Excellent nail varnish tip. I really
enjoy your informative direct Style of presentation.Inspirational!
Just picked a 413F stove with a 220E lantern. Both for $40.
Okay now I have to work on mine. Thanks for the motivation.
Great video! They delivered a Coleman 425E I found on ebay today.A little rusty and crusty, just needs some TLC. Might as well start with taking everything apart and cleaning it up. 😎
Hi
I have a 425E almost the same as the one here except that it has stamped " feet" not the wire kind . Mine had a very poor flame. Pump was not working. I bought the pump repair kit at amazon but that didn't help. I cleaned the gas assembly like here and i found it was very clean. In the end the only problem was the tank cap. The seal was flattened out and wasn't holding the pressure. I could not find a replacement that guaranteed that it fit this stove, so i looked around in my stash of seals and o rings and i found one that sealed very well. Just the right diameter and thickness and that fixed it. Its a green colored o ring that was part of a car AC o ring kit made by Factory Air P N 26743. I saved the bag of the o rings i never used and came in handy. I think i paid about 10 bucks for it about 3 years ago. The tank tabs on this stove read 471.
Aloha my friend!! So weird i just picked up a vintage Coleman 5400 A 700 and decided to check RUclips. Low and behold one of my favorite Tubers recently did something similar! Awesome! Hope this message finds you well!
PS: im still reloading with techniques ive learned from you! MAHALO!! 🤙🏽
The nail polish is a great idea. Great video!
I have one it works great it is my favorite white gas stove .
I love my old Coleman 2 burner. I probably need to go through it too.
Welcome back with my favorites stove renditions.
Great vids mate, thanks for all ur info, I have a 414 duel fuel, ur vids are going to save a lot of these great old stoves. I would love to be able to run one of these on Deisel for camping with a deisel hilux & save carrying extra fuels. A friend of mine is also keen to run a stove on deisel for his boat. Cheers
Thank you we have a Sears model but same and we got you beat our friend got it "recycling" so freee❤
I like all your stove-videos!!!
Thank you, more coming!!
Thanks for showing how to clean it. I just picked one of these up for 12.00 but the plunger seems to be having a hard time. I’ll try cleaning it and see what that does.
I have a 3 burner and I have it for sale for $20 because my wife bought a propane one.but this old style are so cool.
Awesome job
Thank you! Blessings from Arizona!!
Great video BTW. Thanks
Ya like Pat said, I also like the way you used the nail polish as a seal / lock tight, I will be using that tip! This is way I watch all your videos, you never know what you can pick up as a tip.
Nice Job 😊👍
Great video very informative.do you fill the gas tank full or leave some space ?? How long does the full tank last ?
I lit my old stove this week after 20 years of its sitting in my Mom's basement. It lit but there were flames on the burner AND where the pipe goes into the hole. That flame continued after after I turned off the stove.
Sounds like it was flooded, did you have the lever down when you started it? The lever needs to be up so it only draws vapours from the top of the tank, you turn it down once the flame has warmed the generator for awhile & you are starting to get a blueish flame & this makes it draw solid fuel from the bottom of the tank.
Very good . Hes got skills. But I don't know about that color " 💜 PURPLE 💜 " nail polish all about tho ... P.S.... I don't wanna hear it's his wife's nail polish. 😂
I would tape that tube and squirt carb cleaner till it's full and soak it for a while . Saves fluids , it won't evaporate too fast and the effect is much greater and healthier . Great video . 👍
Hey my brother!!👍
I was looking for a video yesterday on how to work on mine
Just FYI, the date of manufacturing is located on the fuel tank tabs.
Great video! I watched another video of yours when you were removing a check valve with an impact driver. My question is what are the chances of wrecking the check valve that way. I have a single burner stove that has a bad check valve and I have held off from removing it your way for fear of wrecking the check valve. I ordered a check valve removal tool but it still isn't here. Which way would you recommend?
Very interesting, great video. !0 bucks! what a bargain
Interesting video mate. Do U have video fixing the check value cheers Graham
I purchased a new Coleman 425 B Camping Stove in November 1974.
Hey brother sorry I haven't been around for awhile. The powers that be unsubscribed me from you. I'm back! Great video!
Thank you for coming back! I'm hoping you have some catching up... I could use the support! Blessings from Arizona
Look on the bottom of one of the metal tabs on the fuel tank for the date of manufacture.
10 bucks e bay ? Great buy 😃
You know a lot about these stoves so I want to ask if it would be ok to run some fuel additive to the tank since it runs on gas? I am talking like STP fuel injector cleaner? That would save taking it apart and perhaps damaging something?
Great information, my 425 b has a yellow flame between the generator goes into the manafold. Any sugestions on how to fix
Thank you, tighten the tip... Sometimes I'll take the tip off I'll put some fingernail Polish on the threads or Teflon tape and then I'll put the tip back on and that flame will go away
Just a thought how about a bit of carb cleaner on the check valve ?
I have a 425 I'm getting a steady stream coming from the generator is that good
I just bought a 425b at a garage sale for $5 it was in a flood the day before the whole stove was under water I dried it out the best I could put gas in it but no dice should I take it apart like you did,? also what about the part the shaft goes it how do you take that apart?
Sounds like you got a good deal on this stove and it needs to be looked over
1. No spring in the generator tube ? 2. What is this "Check Valve" you mentioned ?
The inner spring of the generator should have been removed and cleaned. Normally, it should come right out. With it being stuck tells me there is a lot of dirt and corrosion.
I won't throw that old Coleman stove away but rebuild it. Thanks.
I have watched many videos of these stoves and these stoves vs propane.
My question , what are the side effects ( if any) or health concerns of ingesting the Coleman fuel that’s being burned by the stove.
Disclaimer: I'm no expert so take this with a grain of salt.
Firstly, no fuel should be making it's way into the food, it should all be burned off.
That said, Coleman fuel looks like its make up from cyclohexane (C6H12), nonane (C9H20), octane (C8H18), heptane (C7H18), and pentane (C5H18)
Propane is (C3H8)
All of these fall under the category of "hydrocarbons" which, when burned in the atmosphere, result in:
Carbon dioxide (CO2), carbon monoxide (CO), oxides of nitrogen (NOx), water vapor (H2O), and sometimes residual oxygen (O2)
In varying amounts depending on which hydrocarbon and the air-fuel mixture.
That would mean the coleman fuel is no more dangerous than the propane.
check the tank tabs have dates
Thank you. Will do!
The old Coleman pump stoves, just smell like camping. Don't get that as much with propane. I'm still using one that's over 35 years old.
What type of oil did you use?
Really can't beat these stoves.
I'll take my 425 and my powerhouse big boy over any propane one.
I'm sure you knew this, but if the stove has a red tank it's only supposed to use white gas based on the generator it has. The fuel huel models have a special generator for gas so it doesn't gum up. Those have grey tanks.
But as you said if you clean it you're good. More advice for the person who isn't going to take it apart and clean it. You can buy a fuel fuel generator that will fit these old models.
Mine works but it’s producing an orange flame and leaving soot on the bottom of my pans (using Coleman camp fuel). Any suggestions ?
I have one that does that too. In my case it was old fuel
What brand of fingernail polish do you recommend? I'm not well versed in fingernail polish like you.
Ha ha,,, I steal it from my daughter.
@@jiujitsu2000 ha, ok, if you ever need any tips on mascara or lip gloss, you know where to find me.
nail polish, have to remember that one
Do you think the fuel would dissolve the fingernail polish ? I know acetone and gasoline will .
It's possible, most people don't use it, but I do. lol
@@jiujitsu2000 I like ur nail polish hack, I actually dipped a small grass straw into some PVC glue & used the tiniest line of this around some of these thread fittings, I dont know if it will last, but seems to do the job so far.
Inflation is out if control, I can't find one for less than $40 and it's a half pile of rust that hasn't been tested. Another that looks like it's in good condition is $60.
Its fairly sure that the nail polish will become a problem on the next service job due to the heat experienced with the generator.
I thought that to in the beginning, ice done this for over 10 years without a single issue. Thank you
@@jiujitsu2000 My worry is disassembly later on...doesn't nail polish change when heated then crystalize locking up the threads?
@@Garth2011 nope! It doesn't. I've taken them apart years later. It's not something you have to use. If you don't feel right to use it, then don't! Blessings!
@@jiujitsu2000Interesting so Coleman didn't use anything on them or did they when new?
I took the generator of my 424 apart and discovered that the spring was in three pieces. Is this normal or does it just need to be replaced?
Not normal, should be replaced, but if you can't find one you can put it back in. It's designed to hold heat and help aid in the process of converting liquid fuel to a gas.
I have the same stove I just picked up today for free 99 but my fuel tank is copper color does anyone know anything about the copper color tankand how do you clean the tank out can you give me a tip on that or video thank you guys wrfs866
Put all those brass parts in an ultrasonic cleaner including the generator...
Very good idea
Don't use auto fuel, too many additives, just use Coleman fuel or generic brand Naptha fuel and you will never have to clean valve assembly again, just maybe put some neatsfoot oil on the pump leather as needed and that's it.
there beter then propane
where?
425 b is 1964 to 1970
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I watched your video twice. I hope you don't mind if I critique a bit. First. You need to add a disclaimer at the beginning of this video. These coleman stoves are meant to run on camp fuel/white gas. Not unleaded gas. The additives in gas are bad for the generator and will get bad carbon build up and basically destroy the generator. Two. Buy loctite blue. Don't use nail polish as a thread locker/ sealer. The rod is brass and cannot corrode. That was carbon build up which comes off if you soak it in vinegar and use steel wool. And finally soak your pick up tube in vinegar for a few hours and blow out all holes. Yours was still dirty. I noticed when you restarted the stove and the flame near the burner was dancing. Be careful using thread tape. Just clean it properly and that stove will last another 100 years...
Dude I just got one for $5
Nail polish is not thread sealant. Thread locking compounds are anaerobic(cure in the absence of oxygen) and cure and seal threads by reacting with metals in the absence of oxygen when the connection is tight. Nail polish cures by solvent evaporation and shrinks as it dries. Naphtha(Coleman fuel) will also break down nail polish. So, it might be ok in a pinch to help lock a nut on a bolt, which are running threads, it won't be a good thread sealer for tapered pipe sealing threads. While no sealant is usually needed on stove and lantern threads, if you do use one, use a product like a LocTite or Gasoila that's designed to seal threads carrying naphtha or gasoline. A little goes a long way and a can/tube will last for many years. Having even a tiny glob of gooey nail polish running through your generator could cause issues when you need your stove or lantern most.
I've rebuilt or repaired hundreds and hundreds of these over the years. The coil spring surrounding the cleaning needle should be free and come out of the tube. If it doesn't, the generator is NOT CLEAN. Solvents are ok to use, but a propane torch is a work saver that will literally burn away the gunk/carbon deposits in there and the spring will come out easily. Then you can run a bore brush through it and clean the spring. Heat up the generator with a torch and soon, a lot of nasty smoke will start pouring out. You can light this smoke to keep the fumes down. This smoke is the gunk burning away. Keep the heat on it until no more smoke comes out. Then drop it into cold water to thermally shock it. Usually, the spring will fall out after a tap or two. Sometimes you need to persuade it a bit. If you clean them every few years, they will outlast you and me.
The threads on the packing nut should NOT get any sealant or locker or teflon. Packing nut threads are running threads and do NOT seal anything. The purpose of the packing nut is to compress the graphite packing that hugs and seals the valve stem. That nut NEEDS TO BE FREE TO TIGHTEN if a leak does happen. It won't loosen in operation. If anything, you can actually lubricate those threads so it CAN be adjusted easily if necessary.
Most inner tubes are made with natural rubber, butyl rubber, or a combination of the two. Neither are oil or fuel resistant. You can use them in a pinch, but don't use them as a replacement for the real thing. Nitrile(buna-N) or viton(FKM fluoro elastomer) are good and best choices respectively. They ARE fuel resistant and will last a LONG time with no issues.
I put kerosene in mine, but it won't fire up? I have pressure in the tank but no fire. can anyone help me with this?
To the guy that put kerosene in his. You can burn it in these stoves but the generator tube must be heated with a small hand torch or a grill lighter to vaporize the kerosene becacse it will come out the end of generator liquid and cause a big fire.
Been looking for the correct assembly of the burners. You lose.
Thank you....Thank you...!!!!