How to Rebuild a Coleman 500 or 502 Single Burner Stove: Part One, Disassembly
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Part 1 of 3, disassembly of the stove. Former Coleman Factory Warranty Center owner Frank Bebb gives step-by-step instructions to rebuild a Coleman single burner stove. Trained at the Coleman Factory in Wichita, Kansas, he brings what he learned at "Coleman School" to you in this teaching video.
The video is in three parts and follows the written instructions that can be found
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Coleman Factory Warranty Center graduate Frank Bebb gives step-by-step instructions to rebuild or refurbish Coleman gas pressure appliances. Trained at the Coleman Factory in Wichita, Kansas, he brings what he has learned at "Coleman School" to you in his teaching videos. A long-time collector, former owner of the #1 selling Coleman parts dealership in the world, former owner of the Coleman Warranty Center and The Old Town Coleman Museum in Yucca Valley, California, and current owner/webmaster of The Old Town Coleman Center, Frank has authored much of the Coleman repair instructions you will find on the web today. His "Safety First" instructions with the ominous black widow spider, a real-life warning read by thousands, along with his other written works can be found on his website.
Frank is now your host on the Old Town Coleman Video series, follow him for all the tips and tricks of the trade he has learned along the way.
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I am Ukraine solder, and we using coleman 425f. I want to tell you thank you. Yours stove is super. We cook on it ewery day for 10 solders and it works great. Nice devise, much more safety, stable than USSR stoves... Thank you for yours works and very informative videos... 👍
After finding your channel I ordered a bunch of used Coleman stuff from ebay. Then rebuilt them, it was very good therapy for me. I really enjoyed getting them working again.
I'd like to mention: your camera person does an excellent job. always focuses on the task at hand but knows when to back out for your instruction/face shots. no fumbling either.
Yes, she's a huge asset to the filming process. She's cute too!
I just got Frank a pot of coffee because his explanation is extraordinarily clear and complete.
I had an old Coleman stove that I purchased for 30 bucks. Moved to South Carolina then back to Kansas. Completely forgot it in South Carolina. Fortunately, a family member lives there and now they are a proud owner of my old Coleman stove. Went to Cabelas a purchased the new Coleman duel fuel. Took it home and took it out. Well, I put it back into the box and returned it. Was extremely cheaply made. Said to see such a former great product fall so far.
Good to see you again after all these years!
I've been collecting Coleman lanterns etc.for 36 year's started when I was in my teens,I love taking them apart and reassembling them and making them as good as new,, I'm glad I found you,never knew about the check valve tool, GOTTA GET ONE THOSE! also I agree with you on the rubber pump cups( WORTHLESS) I TRY TO GO BACK WITH LEATHER! I always look for Coleman lanterns at yard sales etc. Lucked up on one at the local dump one day(free) man throwed it away just because the cap leaked! I brought it home, repaired it and it works great! There's no telling how many get SCRAPPED OVER SIMPLE PROBLEMS! AND THAT'S SAD!
Just want to say thank you for this video. I was able to get a 1967 Coleman 502 for 50 bucks and with your guidance I disassembled it, fixed the pump cap, changed the gasket, cleaned the generator and now it runs like new. It was really easy to follow along. Clear and simple instructions plus the calm manner of Frank made for nice project.
Your hint on carb cleaner to degunk the pump check valve was spot on. worked in 3 hours soaking time!
Cleaning out my gf's storage shed I found a 500 Single burner stove, mfg date 6/60. I watched your video on rebuilding a few times. I was worried about the 3 screws that hold the tin cover and the burner plates. I was even more worried after listening to how it was not so easy for you to get them off, even after the electrolysis bath etc. Well I got pretty lucky I used PB Blaster and soaked the bolts for 3 days and dang the bolts came out 1 was easier than the other on the burner plates and the penetrant got into the threads. I just wanted to say that your videos are very informative and sooo helpful. Keep up the good work
How time flies! I came across an my 508 in the case in my garage, which I bought in 1989, used in the Army and a couple of times after that, but it's been sitting for almost 30 years. I'm gonna try to get it cleaned up and operating!
I noticed the screwdriver right off when you said where is my small screwdriver and I was thinking "What about the one in your hand " So funny because I have done the same thing and it's usually with my keys. Thats good to know about leaving the 500 top assembly together and soak it as one piece.
what a wonderful video, my friend ,you definitely found your calling when you purchased the coleman collection which from what you said kinda got your coleman fever started. btw, i agree with the camera person, it was funny loosing the screwdriver. I think she had a lil bit of the giggles after that. You guys make a great team putting these videos together and there sure are a lot of us watching that sure do appreciate them.
Kevin thank you so much for the nice comments, my wife and I appreciate it. Yeah, she sure did have the giggles. She loves it when I turn into a complete idiot! Thanks again Kevin.
This video is really good my friend I have never seen a 500 , or a 502 in a pawn shop in BILLINGS. I need one for my collection ... THANK you Frank from montana...
Frank then you need to go out and find one of them. Awesome stoves, especially the 500/500A.
I've rebuilt numerous stove and lanterns. I'm still looking for a 500 and a 502. I'll run across them someday I guess.
Keeping em burning!
I have three oil lamps I like to use. I was always curious when I saw Coleman Lanterns. My friend has every Aladdin lamp ever made. He started the patio heater service that use to supply all the heaters to businesses in San Diego and LA. I was the service man for those heaters.
Watching you work on Lanterns has made me want to buy an Coleman Lantern. I love working on equipment and miss working on patio heaters. Since I like the light given off by fuel lamps, having a Coleman seems like the thing for me to do. I liked my uncle using his when we went fishing in Indiana. Using your videos I will be able to correctly maintain the lanterns I buy.
Again, glad you decided to post these great videos.
Excellent. 👍🏻 I’m glad I’m not the only one who looses tools that way. 😂
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As all ways Great Video I have learned so much from you Frank an never have I been more informed . It is with out adopt that I feel like I am in the Coleman rebuilder class that used to be offered . Mr. Coleman should be so Honored that knowledge like this be passed down to every on that has bought or be gifted one of the very simple appliances . New to the GREEN fever have just recently got a 1956 200a back to working order after watching the series on how to rebuild it THANK YOU AN ( OLD TOWN COLEMAN PARTS ) for all you do.
Glad to help Tim and glad you like the videos. Thank you for the nice comments. It sure is an honor to be working with the same appliances WC Coleman built.
FYI : The burner bowl on my 502 would not budge. I tried all types of penetrating oil and heat with no results, even after months of applications. My pliers did not provide enough grip on the bowl and created a risk of crushing it. An old fashioned jar lit remover works great for gripping the bowl but didn't provide enough purchase.
The solution : I found a piece of pipe the same diameter as the spacing for the 3 screws on the burner cap. I made 3 notches on one end of the pipe to bear against the 3 screws. The other end of the pipe was drilled to take a rod as a handle. Next, I removed the screws, burner cap, and burner rings. I found two fender washers the same diameter as the burner rings. Three holes were drilled in these washers to match the burner cap. Now, install washers and burner cap back onto the burner bowl (omit the burner rings).
Finally, I screwed blocks on a board to keep the stove base secure. A taller piece of wood was mounted for the Bunsen to press against while turning the burner bowl. Secure the board as appropriate.
The burner cap and burner rings do not need to be removed to unscrew the burner bowl. That is done to provide easier access to the bowl. With the two washers under the burner cap, the burner bowl is strengthened and the force on the pipe is more evenly distributed. From here, I simply applied firm downward pressure on the pipe while applying gentle pressure on about 18" of handle. After months of effort the burner bowl was off!
If you're stuck for a solution, give this a try.
Once I had loosen and tighten mixed up
thansk for the visual of removing the needle from the 500 genny. i have to rebuild or replace the needle on a 500B.
My stove is about 30 years old and no problem.
Great video, a lot of info that I am looking for to rebuild my old 502. I need to find a filler cap and do a lot of cleaning. Then I'll attempt to give it an over haul.
Just found your channel. Great job. Is it safe to assume that Coleman has stopped making parts. I have a Peak One 400A single burner that I’d like to get a new generator tube/regulator assembly for
Great !
I had no idea George Harrison could build stoves. Amazing!
Another great one - posting to get your youtube metrics up - thanks again for what you do
Bill well thank you, I appreciate that! And, my pleasure.
Always listening. This time it’s my first 502. 12 1964.
The cleaning lever only turns downward almost 180°. Without taking the assembly apart it looks and seems to have normal range of motion.
Thank you for the video , have a great day.
Thank you, you also!
Thanks for the video! I successfully cleaned my 502 and got it working again!
AWESOME--that is why I made those videos!
Hey thanks again Frank for sharing your knowledge. Problem....the first 7/16" brass nut you take off the regulator valve stem.... there's no way to get that off with a regular open end wrench! There's too little space!
I've owned my 502 for at least 25 years the only thing i've had to do is replace the leather once. This year I pulled in out and it wouldn't light. Found your video and it's just what I was looking for. I can manage everything you mentioned just fine except the check valve,. I don't want to risk stripping it out without the correct tool. It's still holding pressure fine is it absolutely necessary to remove the valve, I think my problem is in the cleaner and burner parts.
Frank, you're an awesome guy and resource. Thank you for your time expertise! You my friend deserve another pot of coffee! Just visited Old Town Coleman and tipped a pot :)
Thank you sir I sure appreciate that!
Thanks for sharing learned a lot
Great informative video
Great camera work.
Thanks for sharing and God bless.
Thank you brother I appreciate that.
Excellent video, thanks for the instructions.
I recently got a Coleman 502 and noticed it dose not pressurize when I pump it up. What could be causing that the check valve or the pump leather?
Thanks!
I have the "missing tool" thing happen about once a day. And my wife always finds it right in plain sight! The same thing happens with my sun glasses sitting right on my face. 😎
It happens to me frequently also...but this time I happened to document it...
Great video Frank! How do you recommend storing a stove long term? Like for several years. I have a 1969 502 that works fine, although it has some tiny rust spots in the tank. Do I remove the fuel and leave the fuel cap loose?
Great info Frank. You have helped me rebuild many different Coleman models being lanterns and stoves. Keep these great videos coming. 👍
Glad to help!
May I suggest a diagnostics video. Knowing what parts need to be replaced would preclude.taking apart the assemblies that are functioning correctly, and the risks of destruction ever present disassembly of old, frozen, and rusted parts. I hate to mess up parts fixing something that was not broken to start with.
Also, I use a large old muffin tray for parts. The holes are numbered, and the parts from each sequential step go into sequential holes, making reassembly more obvious. An egg carton also works, but is very easy to upset.
Thanks for a good video. P.S. You are not the only one to hunt for a piece you are already holding.
This is so helpful, thank you!
Very much my pleasure!
I noticed that you didn't show how to completely disassemble the 500 stove where the pickup tube attaches to the tank. How did you get the round shield off the burn lever?
Another awesome video! Sometime could you do a short video on how to de-fuel your stove/lantern and store it for the off season? Thanks for all the work you put into these videos.
Yes sir, I could do that. Until then, 5 easy steps: 1) drain all fuel 2) open valve all the way 3) open check valve and pump a couple of times 4) swirl a bit of alcohol around inside the fount and pour it out, and 5) allow inside of fount to air-dry with cap off. Intent is to remove 100% of the liquid from the appliance...opening valve will allow any fuel above the stem to drain back out and/or air dry. Pump action will ensure no fuel is on the other side of the check valve. Once the fount has dried loosely install filler cap and store.
@@OldTownColeman Thank you. I would love to see how you get all of the fuel out of the font without spilling it all over the place.
I use a very-wide mouthed funnel. It is large enough to catch all the drips when you shake the fount.
I have a Coleman model 500A and I want to rebuild the circle tray under the burner. But I could not find a spray that matches with the color of the genuine color paint. Would you let me know where to purchase the right color one? Is this color Gray or silver or matte chrome?
Great video, I'll have to look for one of these stoves now. :)
They are both awesome, and a nice complement to a 2 or 3 burner stove. Is like having that extra burner available on the BBQ grill.
I have a 502 I want to rebuild. Replaced the plunger and still won't pump up. What tools do I need. I do not want to throw it away. RSVP.
Your videos are awesome keep them coming :)
I have a 500 that i cleaned but I'm getting gas vapout coming from the burner with the stove off. Do i needa new generator?
Where can I buy a 502 A generator ? The factory in Kansas said they're discontinued.
Where can I buy a check valve tool? I frequently find lanterns on the metal pile at the town transfer station. Two burner stoves are just as common and I've seen a few 502's.
Hey, I completed all 3 parts. Installed new generator and everything. Once pumped around 20-30 times. Turn the valve away from burner. I can hear hissing and fuel leaks from the Bunsen. Any ideas?
I've got a small collection of lanterns (growing) and love rebuilding them. What are the jaws of your clamp made out of?
Do you have a Coleman's rocket stove (WW2 GI stove) To show off? Those are a super cool old coleman device!
I just bought a well used 502 at an estate sale for 20.00….it included the heater drum….so I got it home and tried to get it lit to no avail…. It has got some rust on the top but I think it is still in good shape…how much do you charge to rebuild one????
Hello, I have a Coleman 500 stove. Does it have a silent head and where is it located? Coltan is considered a silent burner, but I see some people installing the silent head and I would like to buy it. Would you help me? Thank you.
Good evening/ Good morning Frank! How do I send you photos of a Coleman Lantern I just purchased? Email? I have never seen a Coleman Lantern like this. Gentleman that I purchased Coleman Lantern mentioned that it is a kerosene lantern. I think it could be from 1928 - 1938, but not sure. Thank you in advance! Eduardo
What makes you prefer leather over neoprene?
I do have a ? The pickup tube on a dual fuel stove model no 424-5621, the tube inside the tank that is holding the needle, in the pickup tube, the tube is attached to the brass nut, the ? is the tube suppose to spin freely from the Nut? mine does ? if it is not suppose to ? would soldering it work as long as it does not cover the upper hole? to keep it one solid piece. As always thank you in advance .
I am in the process of disassembling a 502, I'm having a difficult time getting the burner bowl loosed up. Been soaking it down with Kroil , which penetrating oil do you recommend ? Would carb cleaner work any better ?
Can you say what make and model the check valve removal tool is? I'm seeing tools online but nothing with a double head and sleeve. I'm looking for quality, not junk.
Someone used a paddle bit . 3/8 INCH OR SOMETHING . Maybe ground the point off some of the way . But that was them .
What size packing does the valve stem take on 502 , where can I get IPL's for these stoves/lanterns
David the 502 takes the standard valve stem packing, the same used on 200A and 220/228 lanterns. What is IPL?
@@OldTownColeman illustrated parts list , I finally found it on old coleman parts
Hi. Can you tell me by chance the size of the internal thread on the check valve? thanks in advance.
No, sorry, I do not. I do get asked that question a lot but have never checked. Coleman did have proprietary parts so it could be an inconsistent measure.
Frank what year and why did coleman go from screws to the clip on the pump ? Personally being old I like the screws better, also the 3 piece cap. They remind me of an era gone by...THANK you Frank from montana..
Hey Frank! I believe the pump clip was introduced right around 1960.
The carburetor cleaner was a great tip! Thanks! I have a weird problem with my 425F stove. With lighting lever up, the stove won’t light. Have to light initially with lever down and then put lever up after a few seconds. After the prescribed time can put the lever down again and proceed with cooking. All else works well. Do you have any advice? I’m a bit sentimental about this stove and would like to keep it. Thanks for your help!
Patrick if you can email me at info@oldtowncoleman.com we can work on your stove. Thank you!
Another nice video. Have you ever worked on a Coleman iron? Thoughts on doing a video?
Scott I have worked on them, and as a matter of fact I just received a new generator for my #5 iron and am going to do a video on it. They are very cool to see burning!
I have seen some real rusted abused 502's. If you soak the bowl/reflector...the plating comes back nicely. The bowl should not get painted as that takes away reflected heat transfer to pans/pots. PS, that penetrating spray days before hand should be considered mandatory!
Oh yes sir, I have had to soak them for a number of days for that burner bowl/Bunsen junction to break free.
i have 2 broken ones i wish someone could fix them for me, someone used leded fule and one is jammed
its "ok" to use reg/leaded/unleaded fuel, you just have to clean daily......
how repair single vale?
I need a gen for a 288a700g
Where do you buy the remove valve?
John, which valve, the fuel valve? I think you can get the entire assembly at old coleman parts . com.
Do you take jobs fixing these I have a 1974 that will not let fuel out I would assume it has something to do with the pressure pump the sliddinf rode is not cologed but I pulled the old fuel out and it clearly has particle of rust or something in it so clearly needs tore down and cleaned I figure I could do it all myself except the pump I don't own the tool to get the inside part out.
RJ did you watch my video on how to remove that check valve? With patience you may be able to get it out without using a check valve removal tool.
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Boa noite , me manda o manual de manutenção por favor.
Manual for which stove?
Pump on my 533 has failed. Stove over 20 years old!
Does it oil like a tire pump ? Is the check valve stuck ? Dried fuel can be sticky and the checknvalve under the plunger is a ball and spring i heard . This channel will show you how to clean it or replace it if it is not working .
Me manda o esquema de como fazer um. Valeu brigado
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I'm bald, so can I rent your hair for a week?😁
Excellent video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
For your next videos allow me a suggestion, have your camera person mount the camera. A moving bouncy camera is extremely annoying. As the camera moves the viewers focus point is constantly moving, where does the viewer focus?
Haaaaaaaaaahahaha!!! The missing screw driver! Happens to me all the time! Far out maaan...
I do dumb stuff like that all the time--but this time I got busted on camera. I was going to "bleep" out the cussing but ended up deleting it entirely. But I assure you there was some...
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Looks like a covid haircut....From a hair growth challenged Coleman collector!
That's a good guess Dan!
@@OldTownColeman I got shaggy myself, but envy your hair. I am kinda thin on top. Thanks for your Coleman knowledge, and willingness to share. I am at a point in my collection where I don't know how many I have....Ran across a box I thought had plumbing parts in it, it was two lanterns....I am there.
@@dandarling5990 sounds like a pretty good problem to have.