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  • @merphynapier42
    @merphynapier42  Год назад +275

    Apparently I mixed up Adverb and Adjective... that's embarrassing.
    Also, youtube glitched and messed up my audio. I now dub this video a podcast

    • @Zeet1
      @Zeet1 Год назад +5

      I was wondering what happened. Thought I was glitching

    • @ThatOneLadyOverHere
      @ThatOneLadyOverHere Год назад

      I kept clicking off the video and clicked on a different one to try and get it to sync up. 😆 Still interesting!

    • @eweindesign
      @eweindesign Год назад +2

      Yay you fixed it!

    • @Dougeb7
      @Dougeb7 Год назад +1

      It's all good! 😄

    • @rriggs6547
      @rriggs6547 Год назад +2

      No worries. People make mistakes. If you didn't then I wouldn't care for your videos.
      I don't know if my opinion is unpopular and it isn't about a book, but how books are labeled. At this point I just want all fiction listed by author in bookstores. A good portion of 'Urban Fantasy' is placed in 'Romance' and vice versa. I once found a book by Kim Harrison in Mystery, Sci-Fi/Fantasy, Romance, and General Fantasy. The spine had the 'correct' label for each section.
      Some of the Urban fantasy is more Erotica and some in Romance have little romance but are far more suited to Mystery or Fantasy or even Sci-Fi. I hate this.

  • @fionacreates
    @fionacreates Год назад +519

    I think people misunderstand what “show don’t tell” actually means. It doesn’t mean pack the book with flowery language, it means if this character is tough you add a bit to the plot showing them being tough instead of saying “oh that’s character, they’re really tough”. I read a book recently where protag was apparently a thief but she stole nothing the entire book, or did nothing that a thief’s skills might be useful for, the author just kept saying “she was a master thief” yet…

    • @ApequH
      @ApequH Год назад +15

      Yeah, I thougth the same thing

    • @kelseyswanepoel7056
      @kelseyswanepoel7056 Год назад +20

      This is exactly what show and tell means, high school English teachers explain and teach it wrong so most people don't understand.

    • @Cashman9111
      @Cashman9111 Год назад +11

      @@kelseyswanepoel7056 how the hell can you misunderstood that ? it's self explanatory pretty much isn't it ?

    • @kelseyswanepoel7056
      @kelseyswanepoel7056 Год назад

      @@Cashman9111 The Schooling system is designed to make people obey commands not think on their own, the people have become so used to being reprimanded for using their heads that they just do what they're told. That is without taking into account the fact that these are teenagers and younger sitting for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week for most of 5 years of their lives. IE: the teacher says show don't tell with no context every time a creative writing assignment comes up (which is actually said since creative writing assignments come into the academic career), it is safe to assume even by adult standards that simply stating things is a no no 90 percent of the time.

    • @ErmenBlankenberg
      @ErmenBlankenberg Год назад +9

      I've never encountered anyone who would think "show, don't tell" means using flowery language in the book, it's literally the opposite of what the phrase says. Even your example doesn't showcases that apparent misconception. Do you have any other examples?

  • @HuskerNinja
    @HuskerNinja Год назад +235

    I think I prefer romance as a supblot because far too many stories where romance is the major storyline resort to manufacturing drama in order to add stakes or drag out the runtime or whatever when 95% of issues in these sorts of stories could be resolved in three minutes if the people involved had even an ounce of communication skills. If romance is a subplot, relationships can develop naturally without feeling forced to add unnecessary manufactured drama that hinges on the main characters acting like they've never heard of a conversation before.

    • @nichescenes
      @nichescenes Год назад +2

      Have you watched Eternal sunshine. I think it doesnt do that whole will they wont they etc. It expresses relationships like they should, messy and fun. Were all still changing even as were in a relationship.

    • @lianneburwell4763
      @lianneburwell4763 Год назад +7

      As an asexual, I actively swerve away from books where the description make it clear that the romance is a *major* plot point. Not being interested in romance, it would be nice to find more books without it,

    • @klausd.6285
      @klausd.6285 Год назад

      That or the drama is the love interest being an abusive pos. And romanace in other fictions just feel forced. At least when it comes to movies and tv shows. I mainly read romance. Which is why I decided to start making a romance story that is also an action story, but it is a romance first. The biggest issue I see with romance, is that people are literally just uncreative and clearly can't think of things that can put stress on the relationship. They just go wtih an abusive love interest, or some times ex, and miscommunication that would not happen in any way in real life. And instead of looking to real life, they just recycle the same crap that is in every romance there is. Money is a massive one that puts relationships to the test. Maybe main character had an ex cheat on them and now are untrusting of their new partner, which will cause stress on the relationship and maybe said partner helps them get over their issue. Someone gets into a tragic accident or gets a dangerous illness and the issues that come up from that, which was done in the TV show Hannibel with that one FBI guy that I can not remember his name and his wife having cancer and her hiding it. There are lots of ways people can be doing romance and what do we get stuck with? Crap. :/

    • @jyjaeskz
      @jyjaeskz 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@lianneburwell4763I wish there were more asexual main characters in fantasy

  • @anthipaganou3727
    @anthipaganou3727 Год назад +333

    14:23 as a romantic who absolutely HATES the way romance books treat a love story, romance sub-plots literally save me. I can't stand reading something where whether the main characters end up together is the whole point of the book. I want more, much much more, because it feels a lot more realistic. So say, when the main plot is about a magical world and there's something deeper going on, but at some point two characters slowly develop feelings for each other, I eat that up (not in ya smutty fantasy though, I hate that)

    • @myhobbies7091
      @myhobbies7091 Год назад +21

      Agreed! Totally, if a book has a romantic genre then you obviously know what will happen in the end. Ik a lot of romance books end with sad ending and all, but mostly the purpose of them is to tell the story of a romance between two people. It's waay too obvious for my liking. A fantasy book or a literary mystery book with romance as a subplot is definitely more interesting in my opinion.

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Год назад +10

      Be that romantic or non-romantic, I prefer there to be more substance in coexisting with my partner than just simply being together. And the same applies to the couples in the stories I read. While I acnowledge the benefits of someone to share experiences with, I still think those experiences should be worth something to begin with.

    • @macarenadazasaez4407
      @macarenadazasaez4407 Год назад +4

      Yes! Please can someone recommend some books like this? 🥺

    • @myhobbies7091
      @myhobbies7091 Год назад +4

      @@macarenadazasaez4407 mistborn series, warbreaker, elantris basically anything by Brandon Sanderson

    • @shreyapradeep8286
      @shreyapradeep8286 Год назад +2

      This sums up everything I've ever wanted to say.

  • @jalapenoofjustice4682
    @jalapenoofjustice4682 Год назад +513

    I think romances as subplots have the benefit of not needing to follow the rules of a story as much. If the romance is the main plot, you kinda have to introduce some bumps in the relationship to fit a romance into a story structure, and end it on some sort of climactic scene. If the romance is a subplot, it can exist as something that just develops naturally between two characters while they're working on more important stuff.

    • @ThatOneLadyOverHere
      @ThatOneLadyOverHere Год назад +39

      👆 Yes! I have started to get sick of romances because they are everywhere, so I really enjoy subtle romances (or just stories about people in aleeady existing healthy relationships because not many of those exist.)

    • @apollog7764
      @apollog7764 Год назад +6

      I agree. I was thinking of berserk (I won't spoil) but anyone that's read it can attest to how impactful, beautiful and disgusting romance can be portrayed

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Год назад +25

      Emphasis on that:
      _it can exist as something that just_
      _1) develops naturally_
      _2) while they're working on more important stuff_

    • @satana8157
      @satana8157 Год назад +23

      I wanted to write the exact comment! Couldn't agree more. Main plot romances are unnecessarily complicated and they have to introduce conflict to make it interesting. But a subplot is where the healthy relationships live.

    • @wolfco47
      @wolfco47 Год назад +6

      I agree completely. I really enjoy a romance that develops naturally due to interactions. It seems like authors are much better about exhibiting healthy relationships when it is not the main focus of the story. They don't over do stupid miscommunications or have various family members objecting for ridiculous reasons. The ex-whatever doesn't come back suddenly after 5 years to interfere. And, authors are seemingly less likely to use the death of a romantic partner for cheap plot progression when it is a subplot. I am totally done with death of a loved one as the motivation for the main protagonist's, story, etc... advancement.

  • @taylorgayhart9497
    @taylorgayhart9497 Год назад +295

    I HATE when I review uses “the character was not relatable” as a negative, because whyyyy do you need to have the main character be just like you??

    • @corneliastreet2491
      @corneliastreet2491 Год назад +16

      Use some imagination 😅

    • @corneliastreet2491
      @corneliastreet2491 Год назад +21

      Have some empathy 🎉

    • @taliw7736
      @taliw7736 Год назад +4

      Lol true all people are unique

    • @taliw7736
      @taliw7736 Год назад +1

      @@corneliastreet2491 lol

    • @Nazoto
      @Nazoto Год назад +10

      I think that relatability is how relatable they are in the decisions they make which are sometimes questionable.

  • @YourBlackLocal
    @YourBlackLocal Год назад +306

    I think 3:22 ‘s argument wasn’t that they want more morally grey characters, but that the people we call morally grey usually aren’t.

    • @a.r.e.j.1693
      @a.r.e.j.1693 Год назад +9

      This! I agree with that person.

    • @LocallyConstantDuck
      @LocallyConstantDuck Год назад +3

      Basically yeah, but its fine 🤣

    • @idiatico
      @idiatico Год назад

      Like a mass murderer who saves a little girl because she looks like his dead sister isn't enough to be morally gray

    • @assimilater-quicktips
      @assimilater-quicktips Год назад +1

      But their first two words were "we need"

    • @YourBlackLocal
      @YourBlackLocal Год назад +16

      @@assimilater-quicktips and then proceeded to say “Actually morally grey characters” you can’t just single out two words from a sentence and ignore the rest of it.

  • @marsazus8024
    @marsazus8024 Год назад +730

    I actually disagree with you about villains. I feel like Hisoka is a great example of a relatively "simple" villain. Like we literally know nothing about him and we can't sympatize with him either. He has no backstory and no reedeming qualities. Even his motivation is fairly simple. He just spends all his time looking for the next fight. It's literally all he cares about. And yet he's one of the most memorable and fascinating characters in Hunter X Hunter.

    • @remus4283
      @remus4283 Год назад +160

      He exemplifies how a character doesn't have to be relatable, as long as they're entertaining. The wild card characters that give you anxiety in any scene because no one knows what they want or how they'll react.

    • @ayajade6683
      @ayajade6683 Год назад +85

      Not all villains have to be sympathetic they just have to be entertaining and fit their role as a villain.

    • @SamTheGumMan117
      @SamTheGumMan117 Год назад +66

      Nothing redeemable what about "The properties of both Rubber and Gum!"

    • @Demonmack0
      @Demonmack0 Год назад +14

      @@SamTheGumMan117 OH MY RUBBER NEN

    • @benjaminwatt2436
      @benjaminwatt2436 Год назад +39

      While a morally gray character can be great, there is a reason purely evil villain's exist. they reflect the worst of real people. You can find numerous stories of people are do the most heinous things out of pure selfishness and hate. People who no matter what they went through cannot be justified. Take the recent shooters who go into elementary's and kill innocent children if you want an example

  • @samanthaa.6055
    @samanthaa.6055 Год назад +76

    It's funny, but if you want a soft-magic feel modern sci-fi is your best bet. Sci-fi is moving away from the "everything must be scientifically explained or feasible" stage while fantasy is moving more toward explaining every aspect of the magic system.

    • @benjipixel1438
      @benjipixel1438 Год назад +8

      basically they are swapping places! (at least according to Orson scott card's definition)

    • @sleepysera
      @sleepysera Год назад +19

      I remember 20 years ago or so when I wrote Sci-Fi for the first time, getting called out for it and being told that what I'm writing is "Future Fantasy", not Science Fiction, because it HAS to have clearly laid out scientific explanations for everything.
      Reading Science Fiction nowadays is like "He pressed a button and shapeshifted into a cat." and I'm like...what 🙃

    • @samanthaa.6055
      @samanthaa.6055 Год назад +4

      @@sleepysera That is hilarious

  • @mysticalarchives7821
    @mysticalarchives7821 Год назад +96

    I would personally argue that we have an over saturation of morally Grey characters and too many complex villains where people go out of their way to give some sort of a reasoning motivation or excuse for why the villain is doing a bad thing.
    More often than not, it feels like the whole backstory given is just to make us feel like “oh they aren’t really bad, they’re just misunderstood or misguided!“ The problem is, there have been plenty of people in the real world and throughout history who just do bad things because they are bad people.
    And the statement that simple villains aren’t memorable is, I’m afraid, not true. Everyone remembers maleficent, Cruella Deville, Darth Sidious, Nute Gunray, and many more.
    People have been taught by literature teachers for decades that only complex characters are good characters and they’ve also been pushed towards this idea that “because people are complicated, you always need to show that there’s a reason for why people do bad things.“
    This idea comes from a philosophical idea, to be honest, that people are ultimately good and just do bad things because of bad situations. But that’s not always the case. People are greedy, people are selfish, and people can very much be hedonistic seeking out their own desires no matter the expense.
    Sometimes people do things that hurt others and they just don’t care. You don’t need to write a villain coming up with justification for why they’re doing bad things or have some complex network of events in their backstory that makes them think that what they’re doing is the only way to live. You can just simply have a backstory where somebody grew up with parents that were overly accommodating and never taught them to reign in their selfishness greed or personal desire.
    A person raised like that is likely to believe that they shouldn’t have to control those feelings and so they go through life without expressing any empathy for those they hurt while following those desires and that makes a pure evil and/or simple villain.
    Are real people complex to where you can’t reduce them down to any one thing? Yes. But you can make a simple character that is realistic. If you make them realistic, then there are multiple parts of their personality, but what makes them simple is the fact that what you see is what you get.
    They can have their own personal interests or hobbies like anybody else. They can have their own personal values and beliefs. But the difference between a complex and a simple character is that a complex character will be multifaceted and layered to the point that you have to dig deeper in order to understand them whereas a simple character will be someone who you understand on face value and there are plenty of people in the real world to fit both.
    A lot of people are not so easily understood and you do have to put forth the effort to dig deeper to understand what they think and believe. There are other people who are so Earnest and confident that they just display themselves as they are.
    Either way, the point is that being simple or complex is not the defining trait of a good character and we need to understand that there are people who do bad things just because they want to do that bad thing.
    There are people who simply think “so what if it’s bad? Why shouldn’t I do it anyway?”
    These types of villains are those who are dominated by a key personal flaw such as pride, greed, or envy. There are people who haven’t learned to control these vices about themselves and don’t see a need to control those vices.

    • @NameNotAChannel
      @NameNotAChannel Год назад +12

      Good content... horrible formatting... paragraphs, please.

    • @sunwukong5518
      @sunwukong5518 Год назад +1

      Who the fuxk remembers Nute Gunray XD

    • @sleepysera
      @sleepysera Год назад +12

      This. It goes hand in hand with advice I often see: "No one thinks of themselves as a bad guy, so you need to write them in a way that makes it logical for the character to take a morally bad action or allows them to justify it to themselves."
      And I'm just like....what? Where is this idea even coming from? Lots of people have the self-awareness to know what they are doing is despicable. Heck, half of mental illnesses are tied to an extremely negative self image, of people hating themselves BECAUSE they think of themselves as greedy, lazy, not compassionate, etc.
      Where did this abstract idea come from that no one sees themselves as the villain?

    • @nichescenes
      @nichescenes Год назад +6

      Yeah, morally grey has turned into the new edgy...im exaggerating but people tend to like certain ideas or tropes in different eras or times. Thats why im alittle easier on stories that arent "good for out time" or arent "correct" or "don't hold up" since stories take time to produce and even if you release at the zeighist...you were either predicting or lucky or just good lol.

  • @thisguyducky
    @thisguyducky Год назад +207

    Murph: I hate people telling me to wait till the 4th book
    Also Murph: Finish out chimera ant arc and wait till the second book of First Law.
    I think these are fair opinions I just found it funny and wanted to poke fun.

    • @Opsinpelaaja
      @Opsinpelaaja Год назад +12

      I noticed the same but difference is between finishing a book or books vs a chapter.

    • @gregwillams5463
      @gregwillams5463 Год назад +3

      I just finished "Before They are Hanged" I loved it.

    • @ClayHales
      @ClayHales Год назад +2

      I enjoyed the First Law well enough, but the ending of book 2 really cemented it that I really, really like it.

  • @andrewwright64
    @andrewwright64 Год назад +38

    See if romance is the main plot I know I’m gonna be bored as hell cause that’s never enough to keep me interested. But I almost always love seeing side-plot romances since they can consist of all the best that the romance genre has to offer while not beating me over the head with it and still giving me dragons.

    • @Yohannai
      @Yohannai Год назад +2

      Side plot romances are the only reason I realized romances could be something I could actually _like_.
      Main plot romances (especially in YA, where I started seeing them first) are either really fucked up in some way (immortal & teen romance), or enjoy giving awful "problems" for the couples to go through which more than not end up turning into bright red flags that they shouldn't actually be together at all.
      Side plots though..... you can see friendships and bonds forming, healthy ways of going through difficult patches of life together, ongoing relationships, etc. Its great.

    • @abigase135
      @abigase135 Год назад +1

      My favorite romances are from books with little to no romance, I also tend to get bored if the book is romance only, give me a brush of a hand before a deadly battle and I'll captain that ship

  • @Starlesslight
    @Starlesslight Год назад +38

    Most upvoted comments
    Sometimes a villain... 1:09
    We need morally grey... 3:00
    I know prologues... 5:02
    We need more books... 6:32
    You don't have to finish... 7:53
    The idea of "relatability"... 10:45
    Healthy relationships in books... 11:44
    I love a... 12:16
    Romance as a subplot... 13:27
    Most recent comments
    I love Hunter x Hunter... 15:19
    I don't think... 17:36
    What skill has Joe Abercrombie... 18:10
    Merphy loses it over adding extensions... 20:02
    Why is this hard... 20:08
    Random comments
    Complex literature... 20:09
    Prepare yourself... 21:05
    Having a "good" ending... 22:39
    Maps... 23:14

  • @NatchaiStappers
    @NatchaiStappers Год назад +14

    "Get romance out of here, I just want to ride the dragon." - Merphy Napier

  • @whitneylivingston5706
    @whitneylivingston5706 Год назад +36

    As a writer, I loved this. Hearing what people like and then comparing it to my own story or asking myself “how would my story change if I applied that” was a fun exercise.

  • @Suiram82
    @Suiram82 Год назад +10

    Totally agree on the maps. It adds to the story and makes it easier to imagine journeys and stuff like that.

  • @stormhawk31
    @stormhawk31 Год назад +44

    Gotta disagree. While a complex villain can be fun, I LOVE a villain who's just GLEEFULLY evil for the sake of being evil, and have fun doing Like Jack Nicholson's Joker. Those are the most memorable villains to me.

    • @rodvincetolosa9386
      @rodvincetolosa9386 Год назад

      Joker is different cause he has so much personality. Sure he's just evil but he's fun. But most villains who are evil for being evil's sake is just plain and boring imo, like Sauron and Ozai from ATLA.

    • @Virgil_Hawkins
      @Virgil_Hawkins Год назад +3

      not always true, frieza and crocodile are some of the most iconic villains from their series. Frieze’s iconic even beyond dragon ball. People also love Bill cipher from gravity falls or Him from ppg

    • @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t
      @f0rth3l0v30fchr15t Год назад +2

      @@rodvincetolosa9386 I wouldn't say Sauron needs a personality. He's never *here*, in person in LotR, so he doesn't need one.

    • @benjipixel1438
      @benjipixel1438 Год назад +1

      @@rodvincetolosa9386 Yall should read silmarillion

    • @abigase135
      @abigase135 Год назад

      Any book recs with those villains?

  • @ro.demigodcos
    @ro.demigodcos Год назад +32

    With the adverb rule, I think it’s because a lot of adverbial phrases can just become a different verb, unless they’re used in contradiction to what the verb means
    For example:
    “She ran fast,” can become “she sprinted,” or “they smiled happily,” can be “they beamed,”
    Personally, the second options sound better.
    BUT, adverbs come in useful when you need to describe the opposite of a verb, but still want the basic meaning of the verb there.
    For example: “she smiled sadly,” does not have the same impact as “she frowned,”. The connotations of “smiled sadly” means that there is still some happiness from “smiled” creating a more bittersweet effect overall. But with “frowned,” it’s more extreme in the negative emotions. These two phrases can’t be used the same way, and therefore here adverbs are really effective.

    • @NameNotAChannel
      @NameNotAChannel Год назад +4

      Most of the time, I personally prefer adverbial phrases, because... depending on how common the specific verb is, simpler english is generally easier for most people to understand without grabbing a dictionary, or increasing their vocabulary (not a bad thing, but shouldn't necessarily be required for reading a story.)
      Also also, and and, you can get a lot more specific with adverbial phrases than specific verbs, that can accomplish what you described in your example, as well as more finely detailed levels of intensity and action that most accurately conveys what the writer had in mind.

  • @StoryManifestors
    @StoryManifestors Год назад +20

    I absolutely hate reluctant protagonists. They’re in soooo many books, but the reluctant hero usually makes me wanna scream 🙃

  • @achimwienzi381
    @achimwienzi381 Год назад +238

    Joker is "shallow" when it comes to his backstory an motives and he is a enigma. Same for Hisoka in Hunter x Hunter. We don't understand why they are the way they are but the moment they are in the story they take over. And they are great because of the mystery and personality they bring and not their backstory.

    • @MM-ko1qz
      @MM-ko1qz Год назад +7

      Hisoka don’t need a backstory, adding a backstory to him while take from his charm and mystery

    • @rasaecnai
      @rasaecnai Год назад +3

      I thought Joker's backstory is intentionally obscured by DC?

    • @tithannisk7470
      @tithannisk7470 Год назад +13

      I wouldn’t say that the Joker or Hisoka are "shallow" but rather tjat we don’t know their depths. But we know - or suspect - that they have a lot of depth. And one of the reasons why we love those villains is that, at least in the back of our minds, we always wonder "what happened to that person to make it that way "

    • @achimwienzi381
      @achimwienzi381 Год назад +9

      @@tithannisk7470 I put shallow in parenthesis because I dont agree with using shallow. They are written like an Iceberg and under the suface there is a lot of substance we just don't see it and the mistery adds to the character. But if you only go by what you see you could argue that they are shallow and you can't truly understand where they come from.
      So I Agree with you just wanted to clarify that I'm not really calling them shallow. just implying that by the definition of, understanding a characher and having a backstory is depth they would be shallow.

    • @achimwienzi381
      @achimwienzi381 Год назад +4

      @@MM-ko1qz true. the mystery around him adds to the tension he brings to every situation he is in.

  • @creativeoj
    @creativeoj Год назад +103

    When it comes to villains, Merphy makes the same mistake that a lot of people do in thinking that a villain can either be sympathetic OR one-dimensional, and that's just not true. A good villain, like any character, is nuanced. But all that means is that they should have distinct motivations and personalities that change based on the situation. I really like this way of putting it: "the villain doesn't have to be the hero of their own story...but they should be the _protagonist_ of their own story."
    A great example of this is Agent Smith from The Matrix. Agent Smith is not a sympathetic character. You don't want to see him redeemed, you want to see him defeated. And yet Agent Smith is absolutely a nuanced character! He has clearly defined motivations that sometimes pull him in different directions. We see him be angry, afraid, joyful. Sometimes he's cold and calculated, and sometimes he's filled with blind rage.
    BUT he's not a sympathetic character because his motivations are completly selfish! He doesn't think that he's morally justified, he couldn't care less! He's only in it for himself, and that makes him an intimidating antagonist. Now you could argue that giving him that kind of nuance does make him a little more sympathetic (he feels trapped in a miserable life, what's more relatable?). But he's not a "misunderstood" good guy. He is a true villain, and I think we could use more of those.

    • @ErmenBlankenberg
      @ErmenBlankenberg Год назад +15

      That's a great point and there is a lot of people who don't realize this. Or, more precisely, don't realize you don't have to sympathize with the villain in order to understand them. Which is essentially what you are saying, villain should have discernible motivations and well-rounded personality and act accordingly, so we can understand what are they doing and why. However, that absolutely doesn't mean we have to agree with them or like them.

    • @Alexa-ts1zy
      @Alexa-ts1zy Год назад +4

      I agree with you on this. While I love a good analysis of a villain's psyche, I also think that you can have a villain that's just a villain and still have them be an interesting and well-rounded character., they just need defined motivations. Like you said, they don't need to have any redeemable qualities, they don't need to be like, for them to be a good villain (good in the sense of being well-written). I think so many 'villains' these days are just morally grey or claimed to be 'misunderstood' (as much as I love these character types too) that sometimes having a villain just be a villain can be a nice change of pace.

    • @samauthor342
      @samauthor342 Год назад +4

      I heard this somewhere and thought it was interesting: “the only difference between the hero and the villain is that the villain doesn’t change”. I’ve taken that to means they both have goals and motivation and obstacles, but one develops in character and the other chooses not to and stays rigid.

    • @GrimReader
      @GrimReader Год назад

      @@ErmenBlankenberg I think that attitude comes from the environemnt you're in. Booktube and online book culture is skewed to YA where anything semi-different is treated as revolutionary and the idea of villains has to be traced to an understanding of trauma and reasons for their actions. They don't understand that good writing is nuanced and that's what makes characters good not whether you can relate or find them sympathetic.

    • @peterlustig7336
      @peterlustig7336 Год назад

      Missing the point

  • @amanda7177
    @amanda7177 Год назад +14

    “Let’s focus on the people that just died, can we?” -Merphy Napier, on romance sub-plots

    • @user-K8T
      @user-K8T Год назад

      Me, tearfully about one of my favorite characters in a still-running series: he is, and she was the romantic subplot for 16 books. What more do you want from me?

  • @robh5492
    @robh5492 Год назад +12

    Actually, using adverbs well and effectively becomes increasingly more frustratingly tedious as more people inform me repeatedly about the bemoanably ridiculous 'adverb rule`. The more that people irksomely complain about my heinous use of adverbs, the more I shall attempt spitefully to slyly slip them in.

  • @rachelreadsandrambles449
    @rachelreadsandrambles449 Год назад +153

    I think there should be a button for DNF when you review things. I think it is very valuable to have a review from someone who gave up for the reason you gave. You should be able to click DNF as a review instead of picking a star rating on reviewing sites. Then it doesn't have to count towards the star rating but you get an idea of how many people didn't like it enough to stop reading.

    • @JonathanMandrake
      @JonathanMandrake Год назад +9

      Yes, I get that DNFs are important for when you consider buying a book, however DNFs shouldn't have a star rating. If there had to be some categorisation similar to stars, I would make it categories like "Not my writing style", "Problematic Content" (for things like torture scenes), "Annoying Tropes", "Boring start", "Overly complicated introduction" and "Personal Disinterest".
      If you didn't finish it, you can only judge what you have read. So giving it a bad rating is only applicable in a fraction of the DNF reviews. Many others are for for reasons of personal taste, tropes and/or missing content warnings

    • @bluegreen5377
      @bluegreen5377 Год назад +19

      On StoryGraph there actually is. They also give you the option to say why you didn't like it. On goodreads I just made myself a dnf shelf (the same kind that to-read, read, currently reading are) and just leave the rating empty (I don't think it affects the book's rating).

    • @rachelreadsandrambles449
      @rachelreadsandrambles449 Год назад

      @@bluegreen5377 oh really! That's awesome!

    • @tohrurikku
      @tohrurikku Год назад +6

      But if there is no low star all that would be left afterwards would be good reviews and people who are only looking at the final star rating before reading the book would not know that there may be an issue with the book. Low stars give the book a more honest face.

    • @who_the_fuck_is_riley5813
      @who_the_fuck_is_riley5813 Год назад

      It's like Howlongtobeat has a retirement rate for games

  • @Mai2727
    @Mai2727 Год назад +97

    I think people want simple villains back because they're tired of fans simping for and excusing villains because they have a tragic backstory.

    • @Cardboard449
      @Cardboard449 Год назад +9

      It’s probably because those villains look attractive that fans simp for them lol

    • @shirendjorgee9320
      @shirendjorgee9320 Год назад +15

      People will still do that if the villains are simple and attractive though. Plenty of older Disney Villains are simped over.

    • @sandraswan9008
      @sandraswan9008 Год назад +2

      No? People are allowed to simp for whoever they want

    • @JohnM...
      @JohnM... Год назад +3

      This is a good point. Sometimes, in human behaviour, a psychopath is just a psychopath.

    • @klausd.6285
      @klausd.6285 Год назад +1

      I don't think that is the issue. Most people I hear say it's because of the redemption arcs that a lot get and are "getting redemed" over things that no one can ever be redemed for. They all want a Zuko, but Zuko never did anything so bad that it couldn't be forgiven and I think people forget that. Zuko was a good person who was born on the wrong side, but came to realize this later. But instead, we get Vegeta's. (don't know if you know who he is but I will explain things he has done.) Which, Vegeta has killed off planets of people to clean them out and sell, viewed killing as fun, and killed even his friends. To which, we later find out that he works for this big bad guy and if he didn't do all of this, he would of been killed. Even though there are clips of him finding out his home world was destoryed and laughed about it and basically said " good riddance". Nope, all of that gets forgiven because he becomes a dad and suddenly starts working with the good guys for his own self interest. So many villians have gotten this treatment. I don't think people really know what redemption means or understand what actions one could of done and be redemed later.
      Another issue I see is that the back stories are done in a way to make us feel bad for the villian, rather than just showing us that this was how they became what they became. Instead it is framed in a way that the actions they are doing should just be forgiven because of their up bringing and we should just feel sorry. Rather than still holding them accoutable but then trying to make a change in the world so it doesn't happen to someone else.
      Could it be due to the fact that people are simping? Maybe a little. But they will do that so long as the villian is hot. Being evil for the sake of being evil won't make them not be simped over if they are attractive.

  • @fourcatsandagarden
    @fourcatsandagarden Год назад +17

    For the first one, I found myself nodding going 'yeah, yeah!' but then as you were discussing it I realized the thing that I was really having that gut agreement reaction to was my hatred for woobie villains. Villains where the story tries too hard to endear them to you, to get you to sympathize and empathize with them, to the point where I'm questioning why the villain isn't the protagonist, or where I'm just annoyed by how pathetic the villain is, or where it's completely obvious they were created just to have a redemption arc and I'm over here rolling my eyes like 'just get it overwith already so we can MOVE ON'. I'm tired of people writing their villains as the protagonists they actually want to be writing. I want a layered evil character, sure, but I want them to be evil. Like, Umbrage is a good example I think. She's evil on every level, she's a disgusting human being. But she's also so well layered and her reasons for doing what she does mirror actual real life people and real life things that happened in the past and are happening today. She's evil for the desire of control and power, which to me is evil for the sake of evil.'
    Edit for safety: I'm not against redemption arcs. I'm just tired of poorly written villains who only exist because someone wanted to write a redemption arc without putting in the effort.

    • @abigase135
      @abigase135 Год назад +3

      I love that you described them as the protagonists authors want and I agree, they should make MCs that morally grey and have the villain as just that

  • @CupCakeUnleashed
    @CupCakeUnleashed Год назад +33

    My story has 3 villains.
    One is deeper than first expected.
    One is shallow but forward.
    The final is... existential.
    Having 3 seems like it'll be a bit messy, but also explore all those aspects of villainy.

    • @saadamansayyed
      @saadamansayyed Год назад

      Would love to read it!

    • @corrinflakes9659
      @corrinflakes9659 Год назад

      I mean if the second one has fun being evil, that's fine.
      Xenoblade 1 (because Xenoblade is relevant) is a favourite JRPG story of mine and Metal Face as a sick villain having too much fun stands out as much as "Mechonis's leader" being a badass who has a sympathetic background as the story progresses.
      Also while acting, especially localized, usually would not guide story. Metal Face has such ham in his role it's spicy.

    • @primarybufferpanel9939
      @primarybufferpanel9939 Год назад

      I've got the same going on in mine. A Kafkaesque beaurocracy, a violent sadistic person who uses vague commands by their superior as an excuse to do what they want, and a ideologue who recognises the flaws in their actions but believes it's a necessary for the greater good.
      So I absolutely love you're exploration of different types of villainy and the different tactics they might employ or motivations that have. I'd be super interested in a read when it's finished. It doesn't sounds messy at all, if it all makes sense for the world and characters, and the story can flow well with all three I say go for it!

  • @AvtarRekhi
    @AvtarRekhi Год назад +30

    5:20 I think the rule they're referring to is that adverbs like "very" can be seen as sloppy/lazy. If you've watched Dead Poet's Society, the example I remember is "a man is not very tired, he is exhausted". Or "said quietly" would be better replaced with "whispered".
    Basically just that adverbs are a lazy way of modifying one word when there is likely a whole other word that directly means that thing.

    • @FromTheHipp
      @FromTheHipp Год назад +1

      thats precisely what he was referring to

    • @benjisaac
      @benjisaac Год назад +8

      I think this goes out the window when adverbs are used in more like… whimsical books? Like when the narrator’s tone is almost confidential, and they say like “he was already terribly exhausted” terribly gives the exhaustion itself a bit of personality

  • @rodvincetolosa9386
    @rodvincetolosa9386 Год назад +7

    Romance subplots are great imo. Idk it just provides some moments of levity, and if it's not the main plot it's just cute to get some romance sprinkled in there.

  • @ThatOneLadyOverHere
    @ThatOneLadyOverHere Год назад +10

    I've been getting sick of romances, so side plot romances or the adventures of a healthy couple are things I enjoy a lot.

  • @Rand_al-Thorfinn
    @Rand_al-Thorfinn Год назад +9

    I like both types of villains, but I do wish there were more menacing, maniacal, evil-because-they're-evil antagonists in modern media. The main example I usually think of is Maleficent. Maleficent from the animated Sleeping Beauty is one of my favorite villains of all time, and a lot of that is because of the fantastic presence she gives off like you talked about. She's just bad, and they do such a good job of portraying that. This is also why I was confused by/uninterested in the Angelina Jolie live action movies about her, because I personally don't need a tragic backstory or complex motivations for Maleficent, imo she's just one of the best "pure evil" villains in fiction, and making her "the good guy" just didn't make sense in my book.

    • @eduardoramirez969
      @eduardoramirez969 Год назад +2

      Was just gonna write a similar comment using Maleficent as an example. Seeing someone else got to her as a villain for the sake of being a villain shows it works

    • @Rand_al-Thorfinn
      @Rand_al-Thorfinn Год назад +2

      @@eduardoramirez969 Absolutely!

  • @catbowserfantasytherapist3132
    @catbowserfantasytherapist3132 Год назад +9

    I love evil because they’re evil villains. To me, they’re so entertaining because they’re usually so bombastic. Maleficient in the animated Sleeping Beauty is regarded as one of Disney’s best villains. And a lot of people didn’t like the turn the live action took her for that reason.
    I think it basically boils down to simple motives can be just as compelling. Some people do evil things because they get a thrill out of hurting other people. And those people absolutely exist.

  • @darraghflynn4335
    @darraghflynn4335 Год назад +15

    The prologue thing blows my mind! One of my favourite parts of a new Stormlight Archive book is reading a new perspective of a certain event in every new prologue!

    • @annmoore321
      @annmoore321 Год назад +1

      I was thinking of this too! I’ve never seen prologues in a series written that way before, and it’s so cool!

    • @darraghflynn4335
      @darraghflynn4335 Год назад

      @@annmoore321 Right! I love it so much because it’s just so unique! And I just KNOW the prologue for stormlight ten is going to be from gavilars pov. It’s just one of those things in the series that feel predestined, like Shallans final truth being something about accepting herself for who she is.

  • @litlbucky
    @litlbucky Год назад +18

    maps are amazing!!!!!

  • @plutoicecream3490
    @plutoicecream3490 Год назад +2

    I love it when books of maps, I love flipping to the map every time a new location is mentioned to see where the characters are and where they may be going.

  • @julieannefowler5768
    @julieannefowler5768 Год назад +6

    I can go either way with villains. A perfect example of character redemptions done right is Zuko from Avatar and Shutendouji/Anubis from Yoroiden Samurai Troopers/Ronin Warriors. They struggled and earned their second chances (several in Zuko's case). I like these villain to hero character, but sometime I just need a OG Maleficent 'Mistress of All Evil' without a backstory (I still hate the live action treatment of her) that takes away what made her enjoyable. Disney villains specifically is where I want simplicity back ToT

  • @kelly2998
    @kelly2998 Год назад +8

    I so understand the comment about spoilers. Sometimes if I can't get into a book I'll read the last chapter and epilogue. It tells you the ending, yes, but it can tell you a lot about the story without really spoiling much. For me, how you get to the end is the important part. Spoiling that would ruin things. Reading the end first just gives motivation.

    • @Antenna17701...
      @Antenna17701... Год назад

      And here I thought I was the only one that reads the last chapter first 😂

    • @kirakoli8813
      @kirakoli8813 Год назад

      I usually read the end around 1/4 to 1/3 into the book. I'm just bad at being hold in suspense.

  • @theherooffire007
    @theherooffire007 Год назад +4

    Merphy: "One of my biggest pet peeves is talking animals."
    Also Merphy: "HxH's Chimera Ant arc is nearly flawless!"
    😂

  • @Kerenscardi
    @Kerenscardi Год назад +2

    Definitely agree about villains sometimes an evil person is just an evil person there’s not always some deep dark reason behind they’re crap lol and if I’m supposed to hate you why can’t I just hate you without having to feel sorry for you mid story?? Lol

  • @freitas1527
    @freitas1527 Год назад +3

    I think that you will really like Kingdom. It's a war story manga. It's just like every war that have existed, but like no war story that have ever been told

  • @UthersonL
    @UthersonL Год назад +4

    As something of an opposite to the one about needing more meaningful multiple POVs to get invested in, I enjoy it when authors dedicate some chapters to abandoning the protagonists or usual POVs for incidental/episodic characters. Especially with longer works, it helps the story feel like it's not just a world inhabited by the protagonists and set dressing.
    Some instances of what I mean would be the intermissions between major acts in Stormlight, all the "little people" chapters in The First Law and the Age of Madness (e.g., constantly switching POVs in battle chapters), or those bits early on in Stephen King's "The Stand" with random people's drama ending in someone showing the symptoms.

  • @ZendikarMage42750
    @ZendikarMage42750 Год назад +7

    My favorite villains are the ones that are simple, with little to no character development, who are mostly if not completely evil. The more the story starts adding those things, the less the character feels like a villain and feels more like a person doing bad things. The most poignant example I can think of is from the Dark Knight movie. The Joker is incredibly memorable and most certainly a villain and we know practically nothing about him and he has no redeeming qualities. Constrast that with Two Face, who is also technically a villain, but because we spent so much time with the Harvey Dent version of him, the feeling I'm left with is that of the tragic fate of someone who was trying to do the right thing but circumstances and his own failings drove him away from that path. Both characters are memorable to me, but for entirely different reasons

  • @krishbohra5536
    @krishbohra5536 Год назад +11

    List of characters with a sentence or two of introduction at the beginning of the book is the best!

    • @pRahvi0
      @pRahvi0 Год назад

      A character page is useful to consult later during the story if the characters are difficult to remember, which can result from their sheer number of too short time to get to know them.

  • @Mr_Vorland
    @Mr_Vorland Год назад +172

    Murphy: Don't tell people that it gets good at book 4.
    Also Murphy: The plot doesn't really start until book 2!

    • @jeremyabrahamson2872
      @jeremyabrahamson2872 Год назад +39

      To be fair:
      A plot not kicking in for a period of time doesn't mean the beginning has to be bad. It can still be good while being more episodic or character driven.

    • @ll-bz8re
      @ll-bz8re Год назад +10

      Not comparable statements.

    • @rainhunter5546
      @rainhunter5546 Год назад +2

      Came here to post this

    • @igaraba
      @igaraba Год назад +4

      The plot doesn't start until book 2, but book 1 is still really good

  • @tommy_svk
    @tommy_svk Год назад +10

    The DNF one is difficult for me because I simply can't DNF anything. I could read the worst book ever, watch the worst movie ever or play the worst video game ever, but I'll still finish it because I can't leave things unfinished :D. The only things in my life I DNF is food, cause I have a small stomach and in restaurants they usually give me a waaay bigger portion than I can eat.
    The relatability thing. I feel like people don't really necesseraily want a character that's exactly like themselves, but someone who has at least some attribute they can relate to. For example, if I had to read a book about a rich guy who can have anything he wants and the story is about him having trouble to decide what to buy first, I'd hate that. Why? Because I can't relate to a single thing from that. However, if he was the same guy but his issue would be that he doesn't buy a lot of stuff because he's introverted and is too shy to go buy things, I'd like that a lot more. Cause even though the guy is nothing like me, we are alike in this one thing, therefore I can understand him a little better and I'm more invested in him. I mean it works the same in real life too. You usually befriend people that have something in common with you. If you have nothing in common with this guy, you probably won't really have any relationship.
    Also I love how Merphy complains about the "just wait until book 4!" thing and then kinda does it herself at 19:10. I know you didn't really mean it that way but I just found it hilarious :D

  • @bellatrixgranger177
    @bellatrixgranger177 Год назад +51

    It's probably an unpopular opinion but I absolutely LOVE waiting for the release of the next book in a serie ! I understand that waiting can be very frustrating, especially when there is a lot a suspens. And though I am not a very patient person I think that having the time to really process what you just read, to imagine theories for the next book, and most of all to get really excited about it makes you enjoy the reading experience sooo much more than if you just read all the books in one go.

    • @jojosoni
      @jojosoni Год назад +2

      Waiting makes it even more satisfying read/watch. That's why i read one piece weekly. Binge watching is not that much fun as it is being able to dissect chapter weekly and discuss with others

    • @countvladislausdragulia7414
      @countvladislausdragulia7414 Год назад +4

      Thoughts on GRRM?
      (PS you have the weirdest username i have seen all day. And i was on discord for a couple hours)

    • @Dr.HooWho
      @Dr.HooWho Год назад

      How long do books usually come out?

    • @boshman11
      @boshman11 Год назад

      ever waited on a Walter Moers book?
      Yeah, you‘ll grow tired.

    • @jjkthebest
      @jjkthebest Год назад

      I think it really depends on how long you have to wait. If it's a month, that's fine, but I've been waiting on winds of winter for so long now that I've forgotten how the last book ended.

  • @songweretson1513
    @songweretson1513 Год назад +6

    The comment about overly flowery writing reminds me of the writing style of the old pulp stories - writers like Robert E. Howard, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and Arthur Conan Doyle. They wrote very well, but they were also straight to the point.

  • @booneh
    @booneh Год назад +52

    The adverb rule is that you should say “He shouted” instead of “He said loudly.” People apply it broadly though, which is extremely annoying. The problem usually lay with using a bad verb, and poor adverbs get all the blame. A well used verb-adverb combo is one of the most pleasant things to read.

    • @robertgronewold3326
      @robertgronewold3326 Год назад +10

      The issue here is less what words are chosen, but authors trying actively to not repeat words too much. If you have 'shouted shouted shouted shouted' all in a row, it can lose a bit of the charm of the prose.

    • @bodine219
      @bodine219 Год назад +1

      So much yes! Verbs are the villains!

  • @vaidawe1540
    @vaidawe1540 Год назад +9

    Unpopular opinion 1: action/fight scenes in books make me bored (even in thrillers).
    Unpopular opinion 2: not every well written protagonist must have an ark. They can be same person from start till the end.

    • @archlectoryarvi2873
      @archlectoryarvi2873 Год назад +8

      Agree with your second opinion. If the protagonist is already super interesting and the story occurs over a short timeframe, I'm perfectly fine with them not really changing at all.
      I especially like it when instead of an arc where they change, the focus is intead on getting the reader to understand what makes the character what they are; what makes them "tick" so to speak.

    • @epicmarschmallow5049
      @epicmarschmallow5049 Год назад +1

      Opinion 2 is just objectively correct. If anyone disagrees they probably haven't spent enough time thinking about it

  • @xXMr_NormalXx
    @xXMr_NormalXx Год назад +3

    The Joker in The Dark Knight is the perfect epitome of an unknown backstory for an infamous villain. All that needs to be said of him is “some men just want to watch the world burn,” and his lack of motivation ultimately teaches something to the protagonist. In Batman Begins, Bruce believes that criminals aren’t complicated, they are reduced to weak motivations of selfish desire. Whereas the joker is all about sending a message. He is the opposite symbol to the Batman, a lesson for him to learn, and the ultimate obstacle of the trilogy.

  • @hanshansomahammau
    @hanshansomahammau Год назад +5

    in regards to the first comment: scar & darth vader (b4 the prequels) have been such amazing villains, no matter the lack of backstory. Sometimes less is more.

  • @ryadinstormblessed8308
    @ryadinstormblessed8308 Год назад +1

    There's an interesting crossover idea between the concepts you discussed of "villains should be 3 dimensional" and "characters don't have to be relatable". As you pointed out, the villains you can relate to in some degree are far more memorable. Wouldn't the same apply to any other character?
    Now, there's the complaint that I've seen here and elsewhere that the character doesn't have to be exactly like you. And that's also true. But "relatable" doesn't mean "exactly like you." According to Oxford Dictionaries (I know that using dictionaries is an unpopular practice these days) it means "enabling a person to feel they can relate to someone or something" and relate means "feel sympathy with; identify with."
    So on the one side, I'd say that stories and characters need to be relatable in order to grab the reader's interest. But on the other side there is also the fact that people who too often can't "identify" with a character or story are simply expressing a weakness in themselves that they can't sympathize or identify unless something is exactly like them. So it's a kind of bigger subject really.

  • @LDungeon
    @LDungeon Год назад +3

    As someone who makes maps for fantasy books, thank you for loving them!

  • @bellatrixgranger177
    @bellatrixgranger177 Год назад +35

    Unpopular opinion : Long series of books can actually be really great ! I know most people likes the standalones or short series better because long series can be very discouraging...and I agree with that. But when I am invested in a story I love following the plot and characters during many books, I love the growth that you can see from the first to the last book. I feel so much more connected with the story when it last longer, the characters becomes like a second family. And that what I love about reading, finding another home in the book and another family in the characters ❤️

    • @robertgronewold3326
      @robertgronewold3326 Год назад +4

      I think with long series it depends on what sort of story it is. Say with Harry Potter, a long series but each book is sort of semi-self-contained. But when you get huge book series where it's just one single continuous tale, that can be irritating. Feels more like you're reading 400-page chapters than something more unique.

    • @the_bookish_took5348
      @the_bookish_took5348 Год назад +3

      The bigger the book and longer the series the better! (At least when it's something that I'm enjoying obvs 😊)

    • @epicmarschmallow5049
      @epicmarschmallow5049 Год назад +2

      That's not really an unpopular opinion. Most long series are popular; if they weren't they wouldn't have gotten so long

  • @benpuffer7891
    @benpuffer7891 Год назад +2

    In Star Wars, Emperor Palpatine is a great villain. I never needed to know his back story.

  • @Wuffskers
    @Wuffskers Год назад +2

    I think a trend that the first opinion is referring too is sometimes a tragic backstory feels shoehorned into the story because it's just expected to be there AND I think often times it's done in ways that try to make the villain more sympathetic, and there's nothing inherently wrong with sympathetic villains but you often get some dissonance if the villain has done some particularly heinous things but is still portrayed sympathetically, there are certain actions where I feel like no tragic backstory should be attempting to emotionally manipulate you into feeling sorry for someone so monstrous

  • @SamanthaDiane
    @SamanthaDiane Год назад +5

    Honestly, the fact that the ending of a book can make me love a story I hated or hate a story I loved tells me it must matter more to me than the actual story. An ending can really change EVERYTHING. When a book I was really enjoying has a terrible ending I won't recommend it, even if the ending was a few pages out of hundreds. 😬

  • @ligemerrill6368
    @ligemerrill6368 Год назад +42

    "No Adverbs" refers, I believe, to modifiers or descriptors attached to actions--carrying someone lovingly, or lifting an object tiredly. It's just clunkier prose a lot of times, so English teachers don't bother to teach a lot of kids the nuances of when to use it, and just go "none, until you're more experienced." The rule has a place, but it isn't perfect.

    • @saadamansayyed
      @saadamansayyed Год назад +1

      Agreed!

    • @AnyMEmdq
      @AnyMEmdq Год назад +1

      That sucks

    • @15nicinho
      @15nicinho Год назад +4

      She also used adjectives in her examples lol

    • @kenfreeman845
      @kenfreeman845 Год назад +5

      A lot of times the problem lies in that the chosen adverb adds nothing to the sentence. "Quickly ran" is unnecessary as the "quickly" can be inferred. If you say "clumsily ran", the addition of "clumsily" adds more context to the sentence and is pefectly acceptable.

    • @TheRenegade...
      @TheRenegade... Год назад +1

      @@kenfreeman845 There's also the factor of using a word that means running but quicker, like sprint

  • @isaachester8475
    @isaachester8475 Год назад

    I love these videos. So much fun hearing people’s hot takes AND Merphy’s reactions to them.

  • @taliw7736
    @taliw7736 Год назад

    ❤️❤️❤️ here for the awesome content and golden replies from Merph about unpopular opinions. 👌 love it

  • @samkathryn4825
    @samkathryn4825 Год назад +14

    I wish authors would diversify their subplots. Most authors SEEM TO always go to a romantic subplot, which often takes over the entire narrative, but there are so many that could be utilized instead. The Haunting of Hill house show and the Danganronpa games and shows are great examples that use other types of subplots to complement the narrative. They were less conventional and less predictable, and I enjoyed the media far more as a result.

    • @Frogface91
      @Frogface91 Год назад +1

      What were the subplots in the examples you mentioned?

    • @samkathryn4825
      @samkathryn4825 Год назад +1

      @@Frogface91 The Haunting of Hill House show is a horror show about a family coping with having lived in a haunted house while they were younger. The episodes switch back and forth. I’m about half of them, the horror and mystery are the main plot while the present day family drama is the subplot , while in others it is reversed. Generally, the siblings’ relationships with people other than each other are subplots. Steven had a subplot with his estranged wife, with the reason for their imminent separation hinted at throughout the season while often in the background. Shirley’s husband is keeping a secret, etc. Each sibling had a different subplot that worked well with their character (their individual episodes were kind of sub genres of horror).
      Danganronpa is a whodunnit with smaller mysteries leading up to the main one. Each “chapter” has a different subplot. They focus most heavily on the murder, but there are other elements and side plots. For the first one, chapter one has a romantic subplot, chapter two is more slice of life with the main character witnessing the other characters forming friendships and rivalries, the third chapter’s subplot is kind of science fiction with a heavy focus on the trauma of the characters. Chapter four is a tragedy, with the subplots being the protagonist’s closest friend/love interest icing him out and the tentative friendship and peace of the other students fracturing. Chapter five is a mystery with a thriller-like subplot. Chapter Sux completely focuses on the mystery. Each game follows a similar formula while switching up the subplots.

    • @Frogface91
      @Frogface91 Год назад

      @@samkathryn4825 Thanks for replying!

  • @amaiaestebanez
    @amaiaestebanez Год назад +19

    I feel like relatability is more about relating to some aspects of a character's life, struggles, ambitions, thoughts, fears, morals, emotions... even if they are completely different from you, seeing some part of the human experience we all share in the characters we read than it is about seeing yourself in them.

    • @mekinot
      @mekinot Год назад +2

      Absolutely agree with you definition of relatability, but I wonder if the person who wrote the unpopular opinion was talking about the "blank slate" characters that some authors make so readers can identify themselves with the character. I hate those, but I think that's a different can of worms from relatability.

    • @xXSamir44Xx
      @xXSamir44Xx Год назад

      I would still disagree. Characters I have very little or absolutely nothing in common with often turn out to be the most interesting.

  • @lixogram
    @lixogram Год назад +1

    Merphy video to start the day 🔥

  • @bleachelf
    @bleachelf Год назад

    Love the opinion that it's okay to read spoilers, then decide one way or another on finishing something. Yes!

  • @merchickety
    @merchickety Год назад +33

    The ONLY thing that bothers me about DNF reviews is when the reviewer complains that the author never explains this or that character or plot point. In most instances I’ve seen, the author did, the reviewer just didn’t get to that point. DNFing and then telling others why you DNFed is fine, up until you end up misrepresenting the book because you just didn’t read far enough. (Thinking of one instance in particular where the person gave a one star review, every single criticism was “the author never explains such and such,” and then when rightfully confused people pushed back and said “wait, all those questions were answered, did you actually read it?” The person finally added a comment that they DNFed.) Basically, it comes down to the review not feeling like fair criticism because the criticism they have is factually inaccurate.

    • @octo448
      @octo448 Год назад +7

      This. I think a DNF review is fine, even giving it a low star is fine, as long as you don't make assertions about the part you didn't read. The beginning is part of the book too and if it was bad enough or uninteresting enough to DNF then I think a rating is fair, but you should be up front that you DNF and should speak only from the perspective you actually have.

    • @Chofer944
      @Chofer944 Год назад +1

      I do agree that a reviewer should state straight-up if they DNF’d, though to this particular point I would potentially argue that the author did not do a good enough job of foreshadowing or promising answers. Mystery is good and should drive the reader to want to know more, but mystery for mystery’s sake leads to frustration. However, each to their own, and different readers have different thresholds for how much mystery is too much.

  • @pietersleijpen3662
    @pietersleijpen3662 Год назад +6

    I wonder whether the relatable part is a mix up with being unable to get invested in a character for some reason and calling it unrelatable? I cannot relate to a dragon rider or a soldier with PTSD, but get invested. Still, there are certainly personality traits that will make it impossible for me get invested in a MC and as a result drop the book. For example, there are very few MCs with anger issues that I can get invested in and I have dropped books because of it even when I can actually relate to and empathize with the anger issues

    • @ashleymartin8093
      @ashleymartin8093 Год назад

      What about anger issues makes you dislike a book/character? I'm writing a book with one such character so I'm curious :)

    • @pietersleijpen3662
      @pietersleijpen3662 Год назад +1

      @@ashleymartin8093 Mostly personal taste, but it is not helped by the fact that it is often used as an easy way to make a character appear flawed. It is relatively easy to recognize situations that would irritate somebody and an exaggerated angry reaction is also easy to spot by the reader. So it often feels like lazy writing.

    • @ashleymartin8093
      @ashleymartin8093 Год назад

      @@pietersleijpen3662 that makes sense. My character's anger issues are rooted in trying to bottle up her emotions and keep people at a distance so it mostly stems from frustration and not really knowing how to express herself. I didn't like my character at first cause she felt too one-dimensional like anger was her only trait but I feel like she's a lot better now. What would make you more invested in a character with anger issues? :)

  • @PinkiemachineStudios
    @PinkiemachineStudios Год назад +1

    18:15
    Merphy: …but other than that, just give me a good-
    Commercial: Raguúúúúúúú!
    I am entertained by the simple things.

  • @britneynicole8903
    @britneynicole8903 Год назад

    I love looking at the maps in a book!! They are so interesting!!

  • @normanofthetempest7347
    @normanofthetempest7347 Год назад +7

    "Dont judge a book by its cover" !! This is something I live by. Its wild that people actually do judge. Some of my favorite books I ever read were just random pickups I made at the library. Totally just a weird book with a worn off cover but inside...it was a treasure.

    • @setitheredcap2677
      @setitheredcap2677 Год назад +3

      A lot of new, self published authors, create their own awful covers, and it gives the impression the writing inside will be as equally unrefined.

    • @robertgronewold3326
      @robertgronewold3326 Год назад

      There is a difference between a 'bland' cover and a truly atrocious one.

  • @susantownsend8397
    @susantownsend8397 Год назад +5

    If I’m well into a book when I get bored with it (and especially if it seems predictable) I might turn to the back and read the last chapter. If it surprises me I may go back and finish the book just to see how the author got there.
    I’m 72. Life is too short to finish things you aren’t enjoying.

    • @Yohannai
      @Yohannai Год назад +1

      I've done something similar since I was a kid. I usually read the last page and if that makes me curious I'll either continue reading backwards until I'm convinced to continue the story, or satisfied to know the ending and not care enough to continue the book.
      Only very rarely have I been burned by this, and usually it gives me a twist ending because I didn't actually understand understand what happened at the end, so I go through it expecting one outcome and see it spun on its heels.
      There's only so much time any of us has to read, may as well spend it with a book that's worth it for you.

  • @Mavric315
    @Mavric315 Год назад

    I LIKE info dumps sometimes. Especially about the history of a magical or sci-fi world

  • @imbored5951
    @imbored5951 Год назад +2

    7:52 I agree with this up to a point. I read a review of way of kings where they were complaining that not all their questions about the magic system or spren and stuff where awnsered. Or they wanted Fabrials to play a bigger role. Had they continued reading they would've gotten their awnsers. I dont think its fair to complain about unsolved mysteries in a 10 book series when you stop at the first book.

  • @bodine219
    @bodine219 Год назад +3

    Regarding spoilers: I avoid them like the plague! Yet I reread books all the time and usually enjoy them most on the later readings 😂😂 Why am I like this?

  • @crystallinecrisis3901
    @crystallinecrisis3901 Год назад +5

    While the Chimera Ant arc is great, I can see why some people take issue with it. It’s quite a deviation from the arcs beforehand. It kind of exemplifies Togashi’s ability to just kinda say “Okay I’m gonna do this now and I’ll figure out how to tie it into the other stuff”
    And, despite it being a master-crafted story, it takes practically a third to a half of the series. Which I feel like led to some things being given a little less than they could have

  • @josepablolunasanchez1283
    @josepablolunasanchez1283 Год назад

    I feel so offended by your LACK of sarcasm. 😁😁😁😉
    Love your videos. Keep up the good work!!

  • @ashleyholbird4287
    @ashleyholbird4287 Год назад +1

    The prologue to Wheel of Time is one of the greatest chapters ever written. Even as i read it first and didnt fully understand it, the ending of lews therin killing himself just seemed so cool to me.

  • @kagisoserala5861
    @kagisoserala5861 Год назад +10

    I need to see the bad guys win and the story ends there

    • @lolroflundxd
      @lolroflundxd Год назад +1

      Is that actually something you want, or do you just think you want it? :D So have you put it to the test? Is there a book or film where that's the case and you enjoyed it?

    • @kagisoserala5861
      @kagisoserala5861 Год назад

      @@lolroflundxd 😂 I've never seen it happen but I would like to experience it at least once, ryt now I'm reading Attack on Titan and I want my boy Eran to win... will that make me happy ? I think so. Will that finish off the manga well ? Nah.

  • @DL-idk
    @DL-idk Год назад +4

    I thought I liked simple prose because I hated flowery writings. But then I read Sanderson and I found the prose somewhat lacking.
    So, in the end, I'm just a really picky reader who wants simple but still pretty prose.

    • @user-rq7jn9ce9i
      @user-rq7jn9ce9i Год назад

      Short, to the point, but meaningful and impactful at the same time.

  • @WeirdTangent
    @WeirdTangent Год назад

    I liked this, and you did this for several, it but I think a great addition is to give examples that prove the point (when possible - and the opinion-giver might already be thinking of these) but also examples that are exceptions (when possible).

  • @shogashogunai
    @shogashogunai Год назад

    The rage and ranges of your voice when you read that map comment LOL I couldn't agree more Merphy

  • @LordDeathkeeper
    @LordDeathkeeper Год назад +3

    "I just want to read a book where someone rides a dragon."
    Actually I don't think I've read one of those since Pern/Eragon in grade school and Temeraire six years ago, so I think I would like to know about more books involving cool dragons (riding or otherwise).

  • @deriving_drunk
    @deriving_drunk Год назад +3

    Griffith alone proves Merphy’s point about villains to me

  • @hmmmmm2555
    @hmmmmm2555 Год назад +1

    popular opinion: Merphy, i freakin love you!! and love your videos!

  • @JAKEBB
    @JAKEBB Год назад +1

    Gosh dang it missed out again!!! Kidding I'm not fussed lol awesome video, hope all is well.

  • @tjl9458
    @tjl9458 Год назад +6

    I agree with the commenter about the HxH Chimera Ant arc. I didn't like so many of the characters in that arc and I felt it drag on. I greatly prefer the Yorknew and Greed Island arcs.

  • @powerhouse6165
    @powerhouse6165 Год назад +3

    I never really understood why some stories clicked with me while others didn't, that was until I watched Act Man's Halo Reach videos. Halo Reach is one of my favorite stories of all time and it was hard to put into words why, but he did it perfectly. Reach is a plot and setting-driven story. We don't spend 10 hours learning the favorite colors and deep emotional backstory of each character, instead we get the bare bones of who they are through their designs and introduction dialogue, and then we're off to the races! The main cast is on the back foot through the entire story, just reacting to the ever-changing situation, and we get all of the characterization we need through how they react. All of this goes to say that I am not a fan of many character-driven stories. If you leave a character in isolation they will be very unlikely to really "do" anything for a very long time.
    This is why I've dropped The Blade Itself three times already. The characters are fine, but there's no big hook for me to latch onto, only a vague threat of an invasion happening at some point in the future. To add to something else mentioned in this video, I would have dropped the Stormlight Archive almost immediately if we DIDN'T have the prologue with Gavilar's murder. The inciting incident gave me something to latch onto immediately and provided context for why everything was already in chaos when the book proper begins.

  • @Sk1nn3r32
    @Sk1nn3r32 Месяц назад

    I agree SO MUCH with One Autumn Leaf’s opinion… while world building is great, usually, all the excess details wants to put me to sleep. I’m way more interested in what’s happening and especially well written dialogue between characters.

  • @le_void_goblin
    @le_void_goblin Год назад

    Lol Merphy flipping back to the map to figure out where people are going is literally me; currently working on the Wheel of Time and I can spend a good five minutes trying to find some random city on the map

  • @merphywatcharcane7103
    @merphywatcharcane7103 Год назад +3

    There are many great morally grey characters in Arcane!

  • @SehaChan
    @SehaChan Год назад +3

    Maps: they're the best thing in a fantasy book, come on!
    Romance subs: I actually like them, it is part of life afterall, so why shouldn't these characters get some too
    Simple villains: sometimes people are just assholes, you know, and that's fine I think
    Prologues: I actually agree with the person who dislikes them, they bore me and usually I don't care

  • @gabrielfraga1742
    @gabrielfraga1742 Год назад

    Could not agree more with the first one and the relatability one!

  • @insoLentLuvsAsSy
    @insoLentLuvsAsSy Год назад +2

    Multiple protagonists with one POV, I think the Heroes of Olympus series by Rick Riordan was written well.

  • @Colaman112
    @Colaman112 Год назад +52

    I definitely agree with the "tell, don't show" person. Just tell me the thing you want to tell me. Don't make me decipher your meaning from five pages worth of poetry.

    • @benjaminwatt2436
      @benjaminwatt2436 Год назад

      Everyone agrees with it, it is the most regurgitated comment in the reading community right now. how did it end up on the list

    • @jeanlucas2592
      @jeanlucas2592 Год назад +1

      I only agree if it's something that's not THAT important, so there's no need to dwell on it so hard

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 Год назад +1

      I don’t know if it’s so much about poetry or flowery language, it’s more when you’re describing the way something feels, looks, etc., in such a granular way that I have no idea what you’re talking about. OR if it’s something I’ve never heard of bc I haven’t read up on that much historical nonfiction do I don’t know what that weapon is, or I’ve never been to this country so the analogue to represent the thing in your fictional land goes way over my head.
      What is a “cairn”?????? Can’t you just say it like we do today please. :(

    • @mr.e7541
      @mr.e7541 Год назад +7

      Show don't tell, means describe, paint a picture in their mind. Don't just tell them.

    • @Colaman112
      @Colaman112 Год назад +5

      @@mr.e7541 I prefer just simply being told that a guy was angry instead of reading a paragraph about them stomping their feet or a description of the shade of red their face is.

  • @ayajade6683
    @ayajade6683 Год назад +4

    People who skip prologues are cowards and fall into the same category as those who skip anything they deem unnecessary as fiction is entirely unnecessary.

    • @beyondredemption5369
      @beyondredemption5369 Год назад +1

      Sometimes I wish I had skipped a prologue. SA for example. I just wanted to see the man in white do cool stuff again. 😂😂

  • @DV-ty6yc
    @DV-ty6yc Год назад +2

    ...but Sauron is memorable. Wanting to know more about him is the hook.

  • @ismael1287
    @ismael1287 Год назад +2

    The problem with adverbs is that they tell more than they show. But before I say anything more, I have to clear somethings first:
    1. Adverbs are inevitable, you can't write a whole book without them, and sometimes they are necessary. The "rule" is not to eliminate them but to minimize them.
    2. There are no rules in writing, only axioms. And whatever you call them, you have to know them before you break them. Many successful authors love using adverbs, and this can be a deliberate stylistic choice. When reading or writing, some hate adverbs and some love them, and others don't even care.
    Anyhow, often using adverbs means you haven't found the right verb. For example, instead of saying "they closed the door firmly," it's better to say "they slammed the door." And instead of saying "they were running slowly," it's better to say "they were jogging."
    Also, trying to convey emotions with adverbs can feel cheap. Like saying "they walked home happily," when you can show this by saying "they walked home, singing and dancing."
    Another problem is when they are in dialogue tags. For instance, "Are you joking!" He said unbelievingly.
    There are two issues with this sentence. First, since it's a question with an exclamation mark, we already know he's unbelieving, so the adverb here is redundant. And second, it draws attention to the tag while the focus should be on the dialogue itself. This is why writing "said" is best.
    When reading, you recognize the word said immediately; you don't even read it, you just scan it. A dialogue tag with just "said" feels like a conversation, but once you add an adverb, it feels like a narration. To give another example: "Tom, come here!" She said angrily. And "Tom, come here, you brat! She said. The second sentence is better because a) it's more showing and b) more immersive: all the emotions and information are within the dialogue, not the tag.

  • @johnmobley9369
    @johnmobley9369 Год назад +3

    Hisoka is a relatively simple villain. We get to know about so many of the other characters and yet nothing of his backstory. But we all know his goal. And its to do anything to get into *that* next battle. And yet I argue he’s one of the most entertaining characters. He’s a good example of how a character can be written entertainingly enough to not need a complicated backstory or much of one at all.
    Similar to the joker even tho he’s since then had noncanon ones. Plus Hisoka may get one in the near future which excites meZ

  • @apmanda
    @apmanda Год назад +4

    See, the Villains that stick with me are the ones who completely go against everything I relate to and/or understand. So hard disagree. I am far more fascinated with what I don’t understand than what is “relatable” or “complex” as you put it.

  • @infinityc2859
    @infinityc2859 Год назад +1

    my opinions (don't know if they're unpopular but whatever):
    1. I actually enjoy books with the "chosen one" trope. They can be really interesting if done correctly. I know its really overdone, but still I find it cool to see all the powers and abilities of the protagonist.
    2. I like it when my favorite characters die or suffer, because then I share the trauma and grief of the other characters and can grow closer to them because of that.
    3. Show don't tell is a really good tip, but authors don't always have to show. Some stories do good with a lot of purposeful telling to convey that the characters aren't exactly telling the truth about their abilities. It also makes things so much less complicated if you tell a little while still having plenty of showing.
    4. If the first few books aren't my favorites but are bearable I'll keep reading. I did that with The Unwanteds and the last three books were amazing the others were fine just a little boring. But I consider it one of my favorite series just for those last three books
    5. Okay I'm kinda scared to write this, because this is REALLY contreversial and I'm sure so many people are going to hate me but here goes (also this isn't a book unpopular opinion, its a show one): Avatar The Last Airbender is slightly overrated in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, its still really good. But I had trouble getting through it because it had a lot of filler episodes and it was a little young in my opinion. Still an amazing show with amazing characters but it didn't capture my interest as much as The Dragon Prince or Arcane

  • @davidmorales-dm7xm
    @davidmorales-dm7xm Год назад

    I NEED that sweater.