Really enjoyed and I watched all these type of videos. Just pointing out that it was sometime a bit difficult to understand you (too fast even after few replays on 2 or 3 sections). I'm with a vive pro and mainly use it for Elite Dangerous... really tempted with the pico4 because god rays and weight of the vive pro...
After using Pico 4 for a few weeks exclusively, today I put on my Quest 2 again. Five minutes. That was how long I could handle. By comparison, Pico 4 is much more comfortable. I can watch two or three movies without suffering from headaches. Furthermore, every time I use Quest 2, I have to constantly readjust the strap because I lose focus constantly. Never happened when I use Pico 4 no matter how long it's on my head. If you only play SteamVR games like me, I highly suggest you try Pico 4.
If it's in your budget, which I guess is far from true for most folks, definitely try the Quest Pro to realize how far we've come. It's well worth the money if you can stomach it.
Hi ZJ. Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
I hope they make that screenshot button customizable/programmable, so you can give it an other function or multiple ones, by double,or triple clicking or holding it. That would actually be awesome and make the whole button way more functional. Some people might have no interest in taking screenshots, and speaking personally i'd love to use it as a mic on/mute button for instance!
agreed, having a button that can function as 3 buttons is insane, wish it could be configured, personally i'm in it for pcvr primarily h3vr and beat saber custom tracks, so i hope i can make it serve as a slide lock or something similar
@@Ricoliets I would rather see that you'd just raise your hand above your head and press the grip for that personally, would be more real! but if it's not build in that button would be handy!
I've received my Pico 4 a few days ago and have been satisfied with it. If you find Quest 2's sweet spot area to be unusably small, like I did, you should give Pico 4 a try. I do hope someone will make third-party face cover for it. The stock one isn't bad, but I don't think it's optimal.
Hi Type-Ke, Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
Someone should make a compatibility layer for quest apps. Porting mods and fan projects would be really easy, and you'll be able to play quest games before they get ported. Might have to run at quest resolutions but shouldn't be that big of a deal
Unless if the dev approves / ports the games themselves im not sure about that bc that could cripple the income the dev gets if they do try to port it when someone else did Cntrl c Cntrl v basically
I use mine for movies sometimes. I would say it's definitely a good one for it. The lenses look good and it's a comfortable headset to wear for long movies aswell.
Hi Tyriel and thank you for your nice work ! Please can you compare the SDE of Q2 and Pico 4 for me and tell me which looks better ? Thank you in advance !
I had a charging issue with my Quest 2, a factory reset did nothing so I returned it. It's been three weeks so I got a pico 4 to play Steam and the Rift games I have via virtual desktop. Its great for that but I am still looking forward to getting my quest back as I have applab games.
I agree with pretty much everything, after a couple weeks use. But my biggest gripe is the lenses hitting my nose because I have low IPD. If you are 62 IPD or below, I recommend waiting until a 3rd party gasket is released that protects the nose
lick, stick & stare..can useally fix IPDs over a few weeks with a lollipop. lick it, stick in the forehead, and stare... though havent tried it. nope it wont work, its only for wide IPDs
What is this game you are playing at 13:32? Also, I just ordered a pico 4 to import to the US from amazon UK. I really appreciate this extremely thorough review.
The quest pro is literally 3 x the price and is actually a hardware upgrade and software upgrade. The pico 4 uses the same Qualcomm Snapdragon chip as the quest 2, so performance won’t actually be much different
I come from Q1 and it's a huge step forward in terms of visual quality. Currently upgrading my network so that the pico can compete and probably replace my rift s
@@cv3nda367 Just a heads up. know that yes, it is very well balanced. The face foam might not be too great, I really like this thing but the foam is pretty tough and presses into your face a bit. I am getting used to it though, so not too bad
Well, I am coming from a Q1 and I find it quite disappointing! I use it mainly for PC vr, games such as HL alyx, skyrim vr modded, ITR. The quality of the blacks, coming from a Q1 is a serious downgrade. Everything else is sharp, but half of the time the details in the game will be gone because of the gray colours in dark areas. So, depending on what you play and what you are used to, consider the purchase. Going from OLED to LCD can be rough.
I tried one last week. My impressions. It's very well built. I wish it had a stereo colour passthrough camera. It was very comfy indeed and the weight is fine. I wish there was a web browser like Chrome that was built in for Web VR. It's a shame Firefox Reality has stopped being produced. The sound was really good. The image was crisp. I should have put the light leak stops on.......anyway it would be nice when the hand tracking finally comes to the headset (unless I missed that?). The app store was looking fuller than I expected. I couldn't get the pc link working on it. Wasn't sure if i did something wrong or not. I think it needs to be really easy plug and play. It would be great to see some AR games and some meditation stuff. The biggest thing for me compared to the Quest 2 was the weight factor. It was a lot easier to wear on the head for longer. I think this is the most important aspect of a VR headset over FOV and resolution. No wonder it has sold out.
The weight factor is what is making this headset tempting for me. I basically stopped using the Quest2, because I get headaches from all the weight on my forehead.
If only Pico 4 had a native DisplayPort via USB-C option. That, and OLED w/HDR, eye tracking, and maybe headset haptics like the PSVR2. Here's hoping Pico 5 has those features.
Hello Tyriel! Great video as always. But i was wondering if you’ve considered using a USB C to headphone jack with charging passthrough? There’s quite a few of them out there for Android phones, would they work with this headset?
I bought a Pico 4 as a replacement for my Quest 1. I used my Quest almost exclusively for PCVR via virtual Desktop and Eleven Table Tennis (native), so I will only need to rebuy those two pieces of software and the rest of my games are on Steam. I love untethered play and wanted an HMD that is as unnoticeable as possible. Can't wait for it to arrive!
There's a issue with pancake lenses that he dosen't mention, in dimmer to dark environments, bright things on the screen reflect in the lenses and it's annoying in same games. For example, in Elite Dangerous, since it's a mostly dark game, all the menus and stuff, reflect in the lenses, and gets "worse" based on how dark the environment and if there are fewer bright things on the screen. In the dark environment/loading of the Pico, you can see 3-4 reflections of the controllers, which are very bright
How does this passthrough on the Pico 4 compare to the Quest 3 mixed reality? My use case is Microsoft Flight Simulator using a knee board and a keyboard. Thanks
Nice review. Since you started your vid with the remark, that no social media account is needed, could you be so kind to inform us about the data security part of the headset? Another review, that I read stated, that you have to agree to the terms of usage, including that pico is allowed to share all of our vr data with its partners. Keeping in mind that bytedance has very close bonds with the Chinese CP, I would really appreciate, if you could confirm or deny it. Thanks in advance!
No NDA or anything like that, I simply don't know to be honest, the moment I became a content creator I accepted that my data will be in the hands of every single company, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, bytedance etc. I should read through it, but you don't need a social account to use this headset, that means that for them you are just data, they don't have to know your name, date of birth, or ever real country if you don't want to. You can create an account with all different data, something that with oculus you couldn't do for example. That's the reason of my comment in the video! I hope it explains it
I'm looking to buy my first ever VR Headset, between the Quest 2 and PICO 4 which one should i get? I don't care much for gaming, I'll be mostly using it for watching movies from my PC and enjoying the VR experience (Google earth and such..)
In your case I'd recommend the Pico 4. It's one of the best VR headsets to do that with, but the Quest 2 does get a bit brighter. Personally, I don't think that extra brightness really matters, I think the Pico 4 is bright enough... and until there's an alternative that has both deep blacks and HDR, I wouldn't recommend anything else for watching movies and whatnot. Supposedly the Megane X is coming out by the end of this year and it does have those things, but it's not wireless (still chances are also it'll get delayed once more). And the PS VR2 should be coming out early next year. Again, not a cable... but should have a great experience for watching movies since it has OLED displays and HDR capability.
@@thenonexistinghero Thanks a lot for the extensive explanation. Yea so I'm planning anyway to upgrade next year, whether to the Q3 or something else better that comes out, so that's just my temporarily doorway to the VR world.
I sold my quest 2 because the lenses is not good for watching video (small sweet spot, blur and godrays outside of that). I am hoping Pico 4 will be better
Pico 4 'pancake' lenses are larger, sweetspot is over 50% (!) of lens surface, big improvement compared to the Quest 2 fresnel lenses. If you like watching (3D) movies and use the set mainly for wireless PCVR like me Pico 4 is the better choice. My Quest 2 will be sold....
Does the PDVR E4 have head tracking, gyroscope, and 360° head movement, or not? You seem to use it just fine. Can the PICO 4 be powered through the USB-C? Can we now get the PICO 4 in the USA through Amazon legit, or not? I see it advertised on Amazon, but from what ive been watching and reading, is that its not available for USA, yet! Thanks in advance.
I ordered on the 15th of october and it was supposed to be delivered today. Now my headset somehow has been delayed till november 15th. Amazon said there's nothing they can do. Hopefully it does arrive then.
I went from oculus quest 2 to Pico 4 and I will not switch back... That's for sure. Love this VR headset. I don't mind so much about the lack of some games. It is what it is but it still getting better in the store. Playing pcvr with these will make you get hold of some more games that are not in the store
@@somerandomperson4143 OK! That's a good thing. Hope they will bring something better than Pico 4 for the same price. Pro is better than pico 4 but the price is crazy high sadly 😐
I am looking VR for PC and will use it mostly for work with multiple screens. If I decide to buy 4k monitor it will cost same amount as Pico4 so I believe worth to try it. Thanks for the review!
@@cristalumati pfffft... you serious?? you think CCP gives a damn about some EU rules? how much is Xi's men paying you for putting out the fire for them?
@@heyjeySigma they are forced to since all servers need to be located in EU and since EU commission makes constant checks to see if the data is sent outside EU(especially for Chinese companies). Anyways, I don't really understand what is the point to argue about these kind of privacy concerns since it will never impact you personally. Just imagine what use case would they have with your data? learn that you with a random email like to play X game? I am talking from a software engineer point of view... This is not like facebook were you put in your whole life(political views, where you live, where have you been, what friends do you have etc). So I think people should think on their own before repeating like sheeps the so called privacy concerns because it is just stupid in many cases
Btw Tyriel, have you played any DCS World other than the lens comparison you did a week ago? Im still on the Quest 1 and im hesitating on upgrading to the pico4 as i mainly play DCS in vr but if the compression is equally bad on the Pico as on my quest im not sure if i want to switch. And how are the colors in the pico 4 compared to Quest 1? Are the blacks even close to the quest OLED? Love your work mate, ty for the best vr reviews!
I'm not really a DCS, but my brother wanted to use it a lot for it when he was here, the jump in resolution from the Quest 1 is substantial, if you have a PC that can handle the res, go for it, absolutely, and in case return it with Amazon :)
@@Tyrielwood Cool, will give it a go then i think! Can you say anythint about the colors? Have you used the quest 1 lately? How does the pico fare in terms of colors and blacks? :)
great review! but i will wait for next year to upgrade, if the strongest suite of the Pico is comfort then i am already very comfortable with my Q2. The rest just doesn't look good enough to justify a new headset....especially knowing that i will be getting the Q3 next year.
Hello great video, thanks. I want to get into VR, for gaming and for developing (I'm a programmer, wanted to see how feel developing for it). I'm not at a rush though. In your opinion, should I buy Quest 2 or Pico 4? Or maybe neither for now and wait until Quest 3 launch to have a better idea?
@@somerandomperson4143 Well, I wanted to play mainly PC VR, I guess. I'm a big fan of Skyrim, so I wanted to try it in VR. But I will probably want to experience other games like bonelab, Sword and sorcery and such. Besides that, I want to develop for VR too. I can wait a year or so, to get more information. But right now, I'm not sure if its worth waiting or if a Pico 4 or Quest 2 would be a good deal. Considering price, hardware and such
I got it today and i like it a lot. Only thing is the face cushen that is too stiff but i hope Pico will add an softer one. I think the software and games are gonna be updated real soon.
Looks like there is much more detail in the Pico 4's images - the others just have black splodges where detail is supposed to be, like the F1 car's Exhaust 👍👍
I have had two, both went back with awful mura. Many reports of the same on Discord etc. I may try one more when they are back in stock, but bad QC from Pico for sure :(
@@arthathome it's inconsistent colour/brightness from pixel to pixel. Hard to describe, looks a bit like a dirty display. One of my Pico 3's had it as bad too, second doesn't though.
I had the Quest 1 too, Image on P4 is MUCH better, it feels much lighter and more comfortable BUT there is almost nothing in the store compared to the Q1, hope it changes but i was quite disappointed
@@Webshadow Some says that they will return their P4 and keep their Q1 because of LCD VS OLED and some glare on bright text, do you feel this ? I mostly play PCVR games (Elite Dangerous - which is cool with an OLED panel, Project Cars 2,...)
@@blm7929 i'm quite OK with the LCD, expected much worse, the black levels are good, there is definitely some glare but only if you look for it moving your head slowly, i mostly don't notice it anymore but the "dirty lens effect" can surely drive some people insane i'd guess
@@21EC If i had a powerful PC and it was running Windows and not Linux 😬 it's a shame since the Pico is good enough on its own even my Quest 1 was more than enough for me, i hardly ever game on PC but perhaps for VR i have to make an exception, i bought Half-Life Alyx and could never play it, quite stupid i know, a friend offered me a 600€ Gaming Laptop that's usually double that price soooooo perhaps i should ...
Well in my personal experience if you get the Chinese version of the pico 4 you have to actually change the region of the head set on side quest to finally sign in otherwise it won't recognise your account
Ok, so I have an unopened pico 4 on my desk that I ordered on launch. And I currently have a 3 year old Index. I have 100% PCVR Steam games. Will the pico 4 be an upgrade? I know the controllers are better on the Index, and the 120Hz, and the audio. But the weight, comfort, better lenses, resolution and ability to play wirelessly is all for Pico 4. Im afraid of the compression artifacts of VD gameplay (never tried it). What do you guys think?
Great video, thank you! I'm wondering - I saw the quick few frames of accepting the Pico analytics. Do you know of anyone who has done a deep dive into the data collected and transmitted to ByteDance? I mean, Meta has its own track record of concerns, but TikTok and ByteDance keep showing up in the discussion with their own privacy concerns and who is accessing user data. With the colour passthrough, and other sensors, tracking, etc. - has anyone audited or done a breakdown of what actually gets collected and sent? Just curious - thanks again, big fan!
@@74amazing I'm guessing you much prefer to give all your info to Zuckerberg and the U.S Government because of course they have your best interest at heart..lol
@@briandakin7026 Well, I guess you have to chose your poison. I personally prefer commercial reasons (I don’t say I like them either), over supporting an autocratic system, including their strategy 2030 and their one china policy. But since I guess, you are living in a democracy too, you are free to prefer whatever you want, without taking too much risk of getting in contact with -let’s say - the ministry I mentioned above :-)
@UCBsH2JPdXtgQ1SxBA-1QbHQ Hehe yeah I understand what you mean but you know when we buy a product we buy it because it does what we want it to do and we're willing to put our money into it in order to have fun. The fact is that the data is collected without us ever knowing it. Where it goes , and who uses it is so far out of our control it's not even a factor in my buying options. Look at phones nowadays they are a mountain of fun and joy for the 3 letter agencies as they can watch us and listen to everything we are typing, saying and watching. We nevertheless all buy one :)
Hi Is it worth upgrading for me? I thought I ask your opinion guys. I am on the Oculus rift S (it coming to 3 years now I think) my pc spec: Ryzen 5 3600, 16GB DDr4 3200Mhz, nvme and ssd drives, Rtx 3080TI. Games are supersampled around x1.5 with with oculus tray tool and run at only 80hz(80fps). Games I play are -- ALL OF THEM :DD (driving sims, space expolartion sims, FPS shooters etc.) Now what I want to improve on is the clarity/ image quality. With the PICO 4 90hz(90fps) so more frames to push and higher resolution. My PC should be powerful enough (I guess.) Unfortunately there is something else.....so I tested the quest 2 on my pc with the link cable and I did not like the compression artifacts at all.. (yes I know I am fussy) Would love to ask anyone who could compare the PICO 4 with virtual desktop against another VR headset that does not do compression and is it really the same?? Any help is welcome.... thank you Of course awesome video as always Tyriel... thank you for shearing your honest thoughts with us :D
Great review! I really like this channel, the reviews are in-dept and consider all the things I would like to know. On that note, can the Pico 4 controllers be used with the Quest 2 and visa versa? Also can both devices (or any combination of pcvr) be used on the same pc at the same time for multiplayer experiences? Thanks in advance, keep up the good work.
Interesting that you are showing pcvr gameplay for a headset that is marketed to be a standalone (and pcvr, i know) quest beater, but it's just strange that so much pcvr gameplay was used, nice review though, how is the battery after 1 month?
@@Skrenja yeah but the headset is promoted as standalone so it would just make sense to show standalone gameplay, but I agree that pcvr is what’s gonna evolve vr
I use pico 4 with space calibrator and trackers. Works fine, but you will need to recalibrate the trackers (I just do a fast calibration) each time you load as virtual desktop or pico (not sure which) changes the center to where you are when accept the current play space when turning on the headset. Works fine otherwise.
Great review, but will they release a P4L a few months later like they did with the P3L? This high resolution would benefit hugely with DP link, it'd be great for seated games. They'd make the G2 obsolete if they ever release one.
I know they have a fast release cycle so either a P4 Link next year or P5. I am hoping they move over to a USB-C DP method personally. That would be awesome with a little hub you plug in for video, audio, and power.
Are the soundcore VR P10 headphones usable for tethered PCVR as well? Like that its connected to the headset via that dongle, but still passes through all the bandwidth required for running PCVR via the USB-C port?
@@stephenhawkins7580 Yes. You can either use this for pass through charging/earphones or buy a dongle with Headphone Jack and USB C for charging or dual USB C for plugging in USB C headsets (PS5 Razer Kaira Pro)/earphones and charging (no tethered option available with any option you choose).
Yes you can, but not just plug the cable direct into the usb-c port on dongle. But you can just plug the dongle into the USB port on your PC and choose the audio output as VR P10 then you can hear the sound from the earbuds. Simple and easy. I have used that way for few days and it works very well
Thanks for the review. You convinced me to buy a Pico 4. The most important part for me was to get rid of the annoying "God rays". Everyone says they are almost non existent, but on my Pico 4 I have the uglyest God rays I have ever seen in a VR. For example, when an area is mostly black and I have my white controllers shown on screen, I see like 3 or 4 of them "duplicated" as some kind of lower lighting sources (they follow my controller movement). Is really annoying, and it's the worst experience I've seen in a VR! Much worse than Oculus Quest 2. Everything else is looking good, but those "flares" coming all over (specially on dark scenes and high light sourced) are ruining all the experience. I am really considering sending it back, just because of that. Have you not noticed this or could be the fact that my unit is a faulty one?
Hey mate... If you could give me an honest opinion, please ? I only play PCVR games and right now I still have the Original Oculus Rift. Would you say I'm better getting the Pico 4 or the Quest 2 ? I'm planning on making the purchase next month.
They both gonna be a bit jump, if you use it just for pcvr the pico 4 is a more modern headset, if you have a big oculus library not all games might work tho, so it would force you go get a Q2, let me know
@@Tyrielwood I have ZERO Oculus games. I can't purchase them with the currency in my country without an international credit card. So I buy everything on Steam. Seems like I'm getting the Pico 4, then. Thanks for the response. You're always pretty awesome in your videos.
@@JonIceInternational also, you'd need to buy the virtual desktop app (do check though) as some other RUclipsr said it's much better than the pc software pico 4 comes with
Are you aware, that neither the Q2 nor the pico has a DisplayPort? For me personally it’s fine, because I can sacrifice a little graphic fidelity for the wireless freedom I prefer. But many pure pcvr gamers I know cannot really accept a loss in picture quality. That’s the reason for my question.
Nice review Tyriel! I have a question, currently I own the Rift CV1 with a RTX2080 and 8700k i7 and work smooth on almost everything... do you think that my PC can handle the resolution of the Pico 4 for mos of the games?
I have RTX3070 laptop and play half life alyx without issue on quest 2. This has slightly higher resolution but I would assume at least for lower settings you can play.
@@heyjeySigma Unfortunately, in my country (Argentina) importing technology is somewhat expensive, so I have to think very carefully before making a purchase... so far no headset has managed to convince me that making the change was necessary, but the Pico 4 sounds really tempting.
Pico 4 'pancake' lenses are larger, sweetspot is over 50% (!) of lens surface, big improvement compared to the Quest 2 fresnel lenses. If you use the set mainly for wireless PCVR like me Pico 4 is the better choice. My Quest 2 will be sold....
Thank you, Tyriel! I came so close to buying a Pico 3, and I wish the Pico 4 had the same great wired option as the 3. I know your video explains that the paid app wireless option on the 4 is not terrible for PC games. But it leaves me hesitating because the majority of games I would play are on my PC. At any rate, great video!
I play exclusively PCVR games and I also only use wireless. I've used wire before but I will never go back to it. Wireless works just as well in my experience.
@@reyluna0 Admittedly, the battery life is pretty pathetic. 2 hours and 30 minutes is the high end. It tends to last for a lot less than that. Battery banks are an options, but I haven't explored that yet.
Hey Tyriel. Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
I totally agree, had few headsets in the past, use them for few weeks and then finally sold them because of the bad confort !! You just don’t want to use them if you have to suffer from headaches after 30 min of use, this is why the new quest pro is a true piece of stupidity.
the big deal breaker for me at this point is, can you download and install games you've purchased on the Quest 2 on the Pico 4, or do you have to buy and install them all over again? I like the Quest 2, but for me, vision is always slightly blurry around the edges, and on maximum adjustment, my vision always seems too cropped on the sides. I'm really drawn to the Pancake lenses of the Pico 4, but I'd hate to have to buy all my games again, since both the Quest and Pico share the same (or very similar) UI.
I was hoping it would be like with Android phones, since at it's core the UI is built on Android. Just because the hardware has Meta and Pico stamped on the box doesn't rule the idea out.
@@MrFreesearcher it doesn’t but the idea of u having to have a mega account and a pico account most likely that’s a pretty big factor that I’m talking about
The only thing that annoys me is feel of depth, anything closer than 30cm will look completely blurry or out of focus, which is bad for reading or checking details up close, also gets blurry over 40 meters, makes it hard to check details that are far away, realized that on half life alyx, the little vortigaunt wall puzzle to open the gate, i had a bit of trouble reading the wall that far away and my vision is no problem 20/20, its my first vr so i dont know if this is a common problem for all headsets but this is what bothers me a bit, the out of focus up close and far away, like the lenses or game focus are designed for 30cm up to 40meters sight
yea SDE should be absolutely a thing of the past in 2022... thats ridiculous. screen door was already kinda gone with the G2 and stuff. this isnt 2017~2019 anymore.
@@heyjeySigma I could have swore he posted that the P4 looked way better than the Q2 and less SDE. Hopefully a language context issue. Else no point getting the P4, IMO.
Normally you forget about SDE over time as you are playing the game. I assume if it was really bad he would've told us. If its more noticable its only because there is more pix pitch between the pixels and the new flat lenses will allow that to be seen a bit more clearly than before. Seems like its a common thing with the new flat lenses as they are a bit too clear. To say its solved is a bit miss leading... we need something like 8k per eye at 100 degrees before it goes away - but that wont be a thing for a while.
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this review took a crazy amount of time to make! I really hope you enjoy it! :)
We appreciate it!
I will
hi; what was the game showed in the PC section, please ? thanks.
And is FPS VR not compatible with the pico 4 cause NOONE seems to use any benchmark with any pico 4 gameplay video ?
Really enjoyed and I watched all these type of videos. Just pointing out that it was sometime a bit difficult to understand you (too fast even after few replays on 2 or 3 sections). I'm with a vive pro and mainly use it for Elite Dangerous... really tempted with the pico4 because god rays and weight of the vive pro...
After using Pico 4 for a few weeks exclusively, today I put on my Quest 2 again. Five minutes. That was how long I could handle. By comparison, Pico 4 is much more comfortable. I can watch two or three movies without suffering from headaches. Furthermore, every time I use Quest 2, I have to constantly readjust the strap because I lose focus constantly. Never happened when I use Pico 4 no matter how long it's on my head.
If you only play SteamVR games like me, I highly suggest you try Pico 4.
Now you understand me 😁
What app are you watching movies by Pico 4 ?
If it's in your budget, which I guess is far from true for most folks, definitely try the Quest Pro to realize how far we've come. It's well worth the money if you can stomach it.
Hi ZJ. Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
@ZJ Wu how long does your headset last while connected to the PC
I hope they make that screenshot button customizable/programmable, so you can give it an other function or multiple ones, by double,or triple clicking or holding it. That would actually be awesome and make the whole button way more functional. Some people might have no interest in taking screenshots, and speaking personally i'd love to use it as a mic on/mute button for instance!
agreed, having a button that can function as 3 buttons is insane, wish it could be configured, personally i'm in it for pcvr primarily h3vr and beat saber custom tracks, so i hope i can make it serve as a slide lock or something similar
Yooo can you imagine a tactical FPS game that utilises that button to toggle your Night Vision Goggles!? Would be sick!
@@Ricoliets I would rather see that you'd just raise your hand above your head and press the grip for that personally, would be more real! but if it's not build in that button would be handy!
@@Ricoliets why wouldn't you do it by pulling down over your head and pressing a button on the thing itself
I gave this feedback directly to Pico! fingers crossed 🤞
Fantastic review! Very well structured and I feel properly informed!
You should go to the doctor and let him examine the stripe on your nail. It can be subungual melanoma (type of skin cancer). Take care :)
@Tyriel Wood - VR Tech , he is right. You should.
this had me checking my nails 😂
I really want the pico 4 "Oled edition" with displayport cable.
Would be the best headset tbh
Awesome review! Have to wait three more weeks till I get mine, but I'm really looking forward to it!
There is a little glitch at 6:35
I've received my Pico 4 a few days ago and have been satisfied with it. If you find Quest 2's sweet spot area to be unusably small, like I did, you should give Pico 4 a try. I do hope someone will make third-party face cover for it. The stock one isn't bad, but I don't think it's optimal.
Hi Type-Ke, Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
For only simracing use, which one is your recommendation? Hp g2 or the Pico?
Do you have a pc?
Dumb question, you obviously have one, for just simracing I recommend hp
Someone should make a compatibility layer for quest apps. Porting mods and fan projects would be really easy, and you'll be able to play quest games before they get ported. Might have to run at quest resolutions but shouldn't be that big of a deal
Not possible (at least for most of the games, idk about the pure OpenXR ones)
Aren't there VR games you can download straight on to your computer
Unless if the dev approves / ports the games themselves im not sure about that bc that could cripple the income the dev gets if they do try to port it when someone else did Cntrl c Cntrl v basically
What is the name of the game in 13:24
Resident Evil 8: Village
Would love to see a pico 3 link and pico 4 comparison, I am also very curious if the pico 4 controllers work on the pico 3 link.
Hey Ty! Would you consider Pico 4 a good headset for movies/multimedia?
I use mine for movies sometimes. I would say it's definitely a good one for it. The lenses look good and it's a comfortable headset to wear for long movies aswell.
Sure! It's comfy and it has a good screen, win win
Hi Tyriel and thank you for your nice work ! Please can you compare the SDE of Q2 and Pico 4 for me and tell me which looks better ?
Thank you in advance !
I had a charging issue with my Quest 2, a factory reset did nothing so I returned it. It's been three weeks so I got a pico 4 to play Steam and the Rift games I have via virtual desktop. Its great for that but I am still looking forward to getting my quest back as I have applab games.
Prob a bad battery but why did u think a factory reset would fix a charging issue? I’m confused
Or something is in the port or the port is broken
Lightleak? Push some foam between facecover and headstrap. Or pull a hoodie over head and set, improves sound too... :)
I agree with pretty much everything, after a couple weeks use. But my biggest gripe is the lenses hitting my nose because I have low IPD. If you are 62 IPD or below, I recommend waiting until a 3rd party gasket is released that protects the nose
lick, stick & stare..can useally fix IPDs over a few weeks with a lollipop.
lick it, stick in the forehead, and stare... though havent tried it.
nope it wont work, its only for wide IPDs
What is this game you are playing at 13:32? Also, I just ordered a pico 4 to import to the US from amazon UK. I really appreciate this extremely thorough review.
Love the video, but I'd love a "Pico 4 vs Quest Pro" showdown even more !
450 or 1500 end.
The quest pro is literally 3 x the price and is actually a hardware upgrade and software upgrade. The pico 4 uses the same Qualcomm Snapdragon chip as the quest 2, so performance won’t actually be much different
@@LugiThePainDrinker not to mention a little bit of a conform upgrade to
Can't wait to receive mine soon coming from Quest 1, and I hope it'll feel next gen compared with that
Iam coming from Quest 2 and I hope will like it, I really dislike the frontheavy Q2 and Iam looking forward to more comfortable, better looking PCVR
I come from Q1 and it's a huge step forward in terms of visual quality. Currently upgrading my network so that the pico can compete and probably replace my rift s
@@cv3nda367 Just a heads up. know that yes, it is very well balanced. The face foam might not be too great, I really like this thing but the foam is pretty tough and presses into your face a bit.
I am getting used to it though, so not too bad
Quest 1 has perfect OLED blacks and better brightness, contrast and colours. I kind of miss it even though it had it's problems.
Well, I am coming from a Q1 and I find it quite disappointing!
I use it mainly for PC vr, games such as HL alyx, skyrim vr modded, ITR.
The quality of the blacks, coming from a Q1 is a serious downgrade. Everything else is sharp, but half of the time the details in the game will be gone because of the gray colours in dark areas.
So, depending on what you play and what you are used to, consider the purchase. Going from OLED to LCD can be rough.
I tried one last week. My impressions. It's very well built. I wish it had a stereo colour passthrough camera. It was very comfy indeed and the weight is fine. I wish there was a web browser like Chrome that was built in for Web VR. It's a shame Firefox Reality has stopped being produced. The sound was really good. The image was crisp. I should have put the light leak stops on.......anyway it would be nice when the hand tracking finally comes to the headset (unless I missed that?). The app store was looking fuller than I expected. I couldn't get the pc link working on it. Wasn't sure if i did something wrong or not. I think it needs to be really easy plug and play. It would be great to see some AR games and some meditation stuff. The biggest thing for me compared to the Quest 2 was the weight factor. It was a lot easier to wear on the head for longer. I think this is the most important aspect of a VR headset over FOV and resolution. No wonder it has sold out.
The weight factor is what is making this headset tempting for me. I basically stopped using the Quest2, because I get headaches from all the weight on my forehead.
@@ZioBlu Yeh with you there. It will be interesting to see what Meta will come up with re:Quest 3 in terms of this
Hand tracking is in beta testing I think, basically u just gotta wait and hand tracking will come out
wolvic exists
@@ad1340yt Correct. No where to be seen yet though.
If only Pico 4 had a native DisplayPort via USB-C option. That, and OLED w/HDR, eye tracking, and maybe headset haptics like the PSVR2. Here's hoping Pico 5 has those features.
which is why I'll just wait for valve next vr
Yea let's have allllll those features for $400 smh. For what this is, price wise....its the best!
Yeah Pico 4 is a great value for what you get. To get something visually better you will spend 2 to 4 times the price. The PSVR2 could change that.
Hello Tyriel! Great video as always. But i was wondering if you’ve considered using a USB C to headphone jack with charging passthrough? There’s quite a few of them out there for Android phones, would they work with this headset?
Yes. Everyone is using them. Works fine.
I bought a Pico 4 as a replacement for my Quest 1. I used my Quest almost exclusively for PCVR via virtual Desktop and Eleven Table Tennis (native), so I will only need to rebuy those two pieces of software and the rest of my games are on Steam. I love untethered play and wanted an HMD that is as unnoticeable as possible. Can't wait for it to arrive!
There's a issue with pancake lenses that he dosen't mention, in dimmer to dark environments, bright things on the screen reflect in the lenses and it's annoying in same games. For example, in Elite Dangerous, since it's a mostly dark game, all the menus and stuff, reflect in the lenses, and gets "worse" based on how dark the environment and if there are fewer bright things on the screen.
In the dark environment/loading of the Pico, you can see 3-4 reflections of the controllers, which are very bright
I also noticed this, very annoying. At first I thought it was light bleeding in from the sides and the nose hitting the lenses, but no.
How does this passthrough on the Pico 4 compare to the Quest 3 mixed reality? My use case is Microsoft Flight Simulator using a knee board and a keyboard. Thanks
Nice review. Since you started your vid with the remark, that no social media account is needed, could you be so kind to inform us about the data security part of the headset? Another review, that I read stated, that you have to agree to the terms of usage, including that pico is allowed to share all of our vr data with its partners. Keeping in mind that bytedance has very close bonds with the Chinese CP, I would really appreciate, if you could confirm or deny it. Thanks in advance!
@Tyriel: Is this a subject to some kind of NDA? Just wondering….
No NDA or anything like that, I simply don't know to be honest, the moment I became a content creator I accepted that my data will be in the hands of every single company, Facebook, Microsoft, Google, bytedance etc. I should read through it, but you don't need a social account to use this headset, that means that for them you are just data, they don't have to know your name, date of birth, or ever real country if you don't want to. You can create an account with all different data, something that with oculus you couldn't do for example. That's the reason of my comment in the video! I hope it explains it
Thx, appreciate your efforts! Keep on the good work :)
I'm looking to buy my first ever VR Headset, between the Quest 2 and PICO 4 which one should i get? I don't care much for gaming, I'll be mostly using it for watching movies from my PC and enjoying the VR experience (Google earth and such..)
That's my question also.
In your case I'd recommend the Pico 4. It's one of the best VR headsets to do that with, but the Quest 2 does get a bit brighter. Personally, I don't think that extra brightness really matters, I think the Pico 4 is bright enough... and until there's an alternative that has both deep blacks and HDR, I wouldn't recommend anything else for watching movies and whatnot. Supposedly the Megane X is coming out by the end of this year and it does have those things, but it's not wireless (still chances are also it'll get delayed once more). And the PS VR2 should be coming out early next year. Again, not a cable... but should have a great experience for watching movies since it has OLED displays and HDR capability.
@@thenonexistinghero Thanks a lot for the extensive explanation. Yea so I'm planning anyway to upgrade next year, whether to the Q3 or something else better that comes out, so that's just my temporarily doorway to the VR world.
I sold my quest 2 because the lenses is not good for watching video (small sweet spot, blur and godrays outside of that). I am hoping Pico 4 will be better
Pico 4 'pancake' lenses are larger, sweetspot is over 50% (!) of lens surface, big improvement compared to the Quest 2 fresnel lenses. If you like watching (3D) movies and use the set mainly for wireless PCVR like me Pico 4 is the better choice. My Quest 2 will be sold....
I just want to have a good headset, easy to use and use steam vr. you will recommend the pico or reverb g2 v2?
Is it good for Work or study?
Does the PDVR E4 have head tracking, gyroscope, and 360° head movement, or not?
You seem to use it just fine.
Can the PICO 4 be powered through the USB-C? Can we now get the PICO 4 in the USA through Amazon legit, or not? I see it advertised on Amazon, but from what ive been watching and reading, is that its not available for USA, yet!
Thanks in advance.
Will this work with visionkey and magic key piano tutorial app?
Or is the quest the only headset for that?
great video as always
Which one is better for wathing movies or videos? Oculus quest 2 or pico 4 ? I am not into gaming much
Pico, it's also much more comfortable
I ordered on the 15th of october and it was supposed to be delivered today. Now my headset somehow has been delayed till november 15th. Amazon said there's nothing they can do. Hopefully it does arrive then.
I went from oculus quest 2 to Pico 4 and I will not switch back... That's for sure. Love this VR headset. I don't mind so much about the lack of some games. It is what it is but it still getting better in the store. Playing pcvr with these will make you get hold of some more games that are not in the store
Would u try the quest 3 tho?
Bc meta allows u to try vr headsets without buying them via a store in malls
@@somerandomperson4143 Depends if they have made something that are much better than pico 4. It will still take time until queat 3 is here.
@@somerandomperson4143 OK! That's a good thing. Hope they will bring something better than Pico 4 for the same price. Pro is better than pico 4 but the price is crazy high sadly 😐
I am looking VR for PC and will use it mostly for work with multiple screens. If I decide to buy 4k monitor it will cost same amount as Pico4 so I believe worth to try it. Thanks for the review!
Can you tell me please how I can connect my PS5 and also Xbox Series X to this headset to play my existing games? Thanks
What about privacy/data concerns? should i worry that its a Chinese company?
the company is subject to rules and regulations in EU, so no real concerns here
@@cristalumati As the zoomers say: "cap."
@@cristalumati pfffft... you serious?? you think CCP gives a damn about some EU rules?
how much is Xi's men paying you for putting out the fire for them?
@@heyjeySigma they are forced to since all servers need to be located in EU and since EU commission makes constant checks to see if the data is sent outside EU(especially for Chinese companies). Anyways, I don't really understand what is the point to argue about these kind of privacy concerns since it will never impact you personally. Just imagine what use case would they have with your data? learn that you with a random email like to play X game? I am talking from a software engineer point of view... This is not like facebook were you put in your whole life(political views, where you live, where have you been, what friends do you have etc). So I think people should think on their own before repeating like sheeps the so called privacy concerns because it is just stupid in many cases
Btw Tyriel, have you played any DCS World other than the lens comparison you did a week ago? Im still on the Quest 1 and im hesitating on upgrading to the pico4 as i mainly play DCS in vr but if the compression is equally bad on the Pico as on my quest im not sure if i want to switch. And how are the colors in the pico 4 compared to Quest 1? Are the blacks even close to the quest OLED?
Love your work mate, ty for the best vr reviews!
I'm not really a DCS, but my brother wanted to use it a lot for it when he was here, the jump in resolution from the Quest 1 is substantial, if you have a PC that can handle the res, go for it, absolutely, and in case return it with Amazon :)
@@Tyrielwood Cool, will give it a go then i think! Can you say anythint about the colors? Have you used the quest 1 lately? How does the pico fare in terms of colors and blacks? :)
you can probably use a split dongle to have a powerbank and kable headphones, no?
great review! but i will wait for next year to upgrade, if the strongest suite of the Pico is comfort then i am already very comfortable with my Q2. The rest just doesn't look good enough to justify a new headset....especially knowing that i will be getting the Q3 next year.
Yeh can agree especially when the quest 2 is going to be not just smaller and comfortable it will be more powerful
Hello great video, thanks.
I want to get into VR, for gaming and for developing (I'm a programmer, wanted to see how feel developing for it). I'm not at a rush though. In your opinion, should I buy Quest 2 or Pico 4? Or maybe neither for now and wait until Quest 3 launch to have a better idea?
I personally would prob wait ngl it gives more time for tiles to come out and let’s mode get more advanced for bonelabs
Actually it depends if u want to wait a year or not to get into vr gaming
Or if u want u can just use pc vr headsets
@@somerandomperson4143 Well, I wanted to play mainly PC VR, I guess. I'm a big fan of Skyrim, so I wanted to try it in VR. But I will probably want to experience other games like bonelab, Sword and sorcery and such. Besides that, I want to develop for VR too.
I can wait a year or so, to get more information. But right now, I'm not sure if its worth waiting or if a Pico 4 or Quest 2 would be a good deal. Considering price, hardware and such
How much money have you spent on VR head sets
I got it today and i like it a lot. Only thing is the face cushen that is too stiff but i hope Pico will add an softer one. I think the software and games are gonna be updated real soon.
I find that after using it for over a week the cusion becomes much softer, I am however buying a VR cover on day one when it comes out
Looks like there is much more detail in the Pico 4's images - the others just have black splodges where detail is supposed to be, like the F1 car's Exhaust 👍👍
I have had two, both went back with awful mura. Many reports of the same on Discord etc. I may try one more when they are back in stock, but bad QC from Pico for sure :(
What do you mean by mura ?
@@arthathome it's inconsistent colour/brightness from pixel to pixel. Hard to describe, looks a bit like a dirty display. One of my Pico 3's had it as bad too, second doesn't though.
@@AdamsSIMporium This is bad news, I hope they can improve control on this. What is the name of the discord please?
@@AdamsSIMporium Thanks
can tell us something about the battery heatup
Hello Tyriel. Did you check Pico with vorpx?
Using Quest 1 now. Should I go for pico 4 ?
I had the Quest 1 too, Image on P4 is MUCH better, it feels much lighter and more comfortable BUT there is almost nothing in the store compared to the Q1, hope it changes but i was quite disappointed
@@Webshadow Some says that they will return their P4 and keep their Q1 because of LCD VS OLED and some glare on bright text, do you feel this ?
I mostly play PCVR games (Elite Dangerous - which is cool with an OLED panel, Project Cars 2,...)
@@blm7929 i'm quite OK with the LCD, expected much worse, the black levels are good, there is definitely some glare but only if you look for it moving your head slowly, i mostly don't notice it anymore but the "dirty lens effect" can surely drive some people insane i'd guess
@@Webshadow But you can play VR games on SteamVR using a USB cable or wireless with the help of their program - "streaming assistant"
@@21EC If i had a powerful PC and it was running Windows and not Linux 😬 it's a shame since the Pico is good enough on its own even my Quest 1 was more than enough for me, i hardly ever game on PC but perhaps for VR i have to make an exception, i bought Half-Life Alyx and could never play it, quite stupid i know, a friend offered me a 600€ Gaming Laptop that's usually double that price soooooo perhaps i should ...
Well in my personal experience if you get the Chinese version of the pico 4 you have to actually change the region of the head set on side quest to finally sign in otherwise it won't recognise your account
How does the recline mode works? Does it allow me to play VR while laying down in bed?
Great information. Really valuable. However my concern is Netflix and movie. Can you help?
Ok, so I have an unopened pico 4 on my desk that I ordered on launch. And I currently have a 3 year old Index. I have 100% PCVR Steam games. Will the pico 4 be an upgrade?
I know the controllers are better on the Index, and the 120Hz, and the audio. But the weight, comfort, better lenses, resolution and ability to play wirelessly is all for Pico 4.
Im afraid of the compression artifacts of VD gameplay (never tried it). What do you guys think?
can you tell me why so many people give bad reviews for Virtual Desktop at the moment? Im Not sure if i should get it or not
How about sideloading games with FFA and things like that? Does that work with Pico 4 ?
Hi. Do you know if this can access Kodi to view any content please?
Tyriel, Hi! I am going to buy the pico 4 but my last question is if we can use a safe method of payment like MBNET or something else?
Great video, thank you! I'm wondering - I saw the quick few frames of accepting the Pico analytics. Do you know of anyone who has done a deep dive into the data collected and transmitted to ByteDance?
I mean, Meta has its own track record of concerns, but TikTok and ByteDance keep showing up in the discussion with their own privacy concerns and who is accessing user data. With the colour passthrough, and other sensors, tracking, etc. - has anyone audited or done a breakdown of what actually gets collected and sent? Just curious - thanks again, big fan!
Should i get the Pico 4 or wait? (I have rift s)..
Upgrade without a doubt
If you are ok with sharing all you vr data with picos/bytedances partners (like the chinese ministry of public security i.e.) go for it.
@@74amazing I'm guessing you much prefer to give all your info to Zuckerberg and the U.S Government because of course they have your best interest at heart..lol
@@briandakin7026 Well, I guess you have to chose your poison. I personally prefer commercial reasons (I don’t say I like them either), over supporting an autocratic system, including their strategy 2030 and their one china policy. But since I guess, you are living in a democracy too, you are free to prefer whatever you want, without taking too much risk of getting in contact with -let’s say - the ministry I mentioned above :-)
@UCBsH2JPdXtgQ1SxBA-1QbHQ Hehe yeah I understand what you mean but you know when we buy a product we buy it because it does what we want it to do and we're willing to put our money into it in order to have fun.
The fact is that the data is collected without us ever knowing it. Where it goes , and who uses it is so far out of our control it's not even a factor in my buying options.
Look at phones nowadays they are a mountain of fun and joy for the 3 letter agencies as they can watch us and listen to everything we are typing, saying and watching.
We nevertheless all buy one :)
I have big hands and would have issues with Pico 4's controllers, no audio jack, can't change head strap...I'll wait for Quest3.
Does this support virtual desktop?
New subscriber here! I really like your editing style, it feel very similar to Hardware Knucks
Which i really enjoy as well
why the image in the goggles is not the same quality as the one displayed on the PC desktop?
I have a narrow face so I get light leak from the sides with the Quest 2. Guess I will have the same issue with this one.
So, the Soundcore VR P10 are working on Pico 4 or not? Thank you!
Yes they work with Pcio 4 very well, I have used them for few days
@@liamdon8313 Thank you! I have ordered from Amazon.
Whats it like with the Bluetooth audio, I primarily use my Quest 2 for PCVR and like the headphone jack, as the bluetooth just has too much delay.
Apologies i see that you mentioned that in the audio part.
Hi
Is it worth upgrading for me? I thought I ask your opinion guys. I am on the Oculus rift S (it coming to 3 years now I think) my pc spec: Ryzen 5 3600, 16GB DDr4 3200Mhz, nvme and ssd drives, Rtx 3080TI. Games are supersampled around x1.5 with with oculus tray tool and run at only 80hz(80fps). Games I play are -- ALL OF THEM :DD (driving sims, space expolartion sims, FPS shooters etc.) Now what I want to improve on is the clarity/ image quality. With the PICO 4 90hz(90fps) so more frames to push and higher resolution. My PC should be powerful enough (I guess.) Unfortunately there is something else.....so I tested the quest 2 on my pc with the link cable and I did not like the compression artifacts at all.. (yes I know I am fussy)
Would love to ask anyone who could compare the PICO 4 with virtual desktop against another VR headset that does not do compression and is it really the same??
Any help is welcome.... thank you
Of course awesome video as always Tyriel... thank you for shearing your honest thoughts with us :D
Great review! I really like this channel, the reviews are in-dept and consider all the things I would like to know. On that note, can the Pico 4 controllers be used with the Quest 2 and visa versa? Also can both devices (or any combination of pcvr) be used on the same pc at the same time for multiplayer experiences? Thanks in advance, keep up the good work.
Interesting that you are showing pcvr gameplay for a headset that is marketed to be a standalone (and pcvr, i know) quest beater, but it's just strange that so much pcvr gameplay was used, nice review though, how is the battery after 1 month?
I use it ONLY for PCVR, who cares about marketing these days, lol. Marketing overall is a bunch of BS anyway.
PCVR is what will push the VR scene forwards. It's all that matters.
@@Skrenja yeah but the headset is promoted as standalone so it would just make sense to show standalone gameplay, but I agree that pcvr is what’s gonna evolve vr
Do you have the asian or global face pad?
Do they have regional pricing on the store like steam does? Because meta doesnt
nice, I'll have to get one of these
do i need a computer to use it?
Does virtual desktop allow you to use playspace calibrator so I can use full body tracking on pcvr?
I use pico 4 with space calibrator and trackers. Works fine, but you will need to recalibrate the trackers (I just do a fast calibration) each time you load as virtual desktop or pico (not sure which) changes the center to where you are when accept the current play space when turning on the headset. Works fine otherwise.
Very entertaining review!
How can you say that glare is gone?
Fresnel god rays are gone but it has a lot of glare and in the center of the view.
Even on your Asseto Corsa video you can clearly see the glare in the center of the view
hello my pico pov looks not as good as the one i the video my pov looks pixelted in ohter word do you guys have any tips to fix it
Great review, but will they release a P4L a few months later like they did with the P3L? This high resolution would benefit hugely with DP link, it'd be great for seated games. They'd make the G2 obsolete if they ever release one.
I know they have a fast release cycle so either a P4 Link next year or P5. I am hoping they move over to a USB-C DP method personally. That would be awesome with a little hub you plug in for video, audio, and power.
Are the soundcore VR P10 headphones usable for tethered PCVR as well? Like that its connected to the headset via that dongle, but still passes through all the bandwidth required for running PCVR via the USB-C port?
Nope.
@@zacthegamer6145 And headphone + usb -c charging? Is possible?
@@stephenhawkins7580 Yes. You can either use this for pass through charging/earphones or buy a dongle with Headphone Jack and USB C for charging or dual USB C for plugging in USB C headsets (PS5 Razer Kaira Pro)/earphones and charging (no tethered option available with any option you choose).
Yes you can, but not just plug the cable direct into the usb-c port on dongle. But you can just plug the dongle into the USB port on your PC and choose the audio output as VR P10 then you can hear the sound from the earbuds. Simple and easy. I have used that way for few days and it works very well
@@liamdon8313 That way you can use any PC headset with dedicated 2.4Hz dongle.
Thanks for the review. You convinced me to buy a Pico 4. The most important part for me was to get rid of the annoying "God rays". Everyone says they are almost non existent, but on my Pico 4 I have the uglyest God rays I have ever seen in a VR. For example, when an area is mostly black and I have my white controllers shown on screen, I see like 3 or 4 of them "duplicated" as some kind of lower lighting sources (they follow my controller movement). Is really annoying, and it's the worst experience I've seen in a VR! Much worse than Oculus Quest 2. Everything else is looking good, but those "flares" coming all over (specially on dark scenes and high light sourced) are ruining all the experience. I am really considering sending it back, just because of that. Have you not noticed this or could be the fact that my unit is a faulty one?
Bro u should have waited for the quest 3
Even tho meta has not said much about it at meta connect it’s coming out sometime next year
@@somerandomperson4143 Quest 3 hasn't even been announced... So you will be waiting for a pretty long period of time.
my soundcore headpohones are arriving today but the pico 4 is nowhere to be seen :(
Hey mate... If you could give me an honest opinion, please ? I only play PCVR games and right now I still have the Original Oculus Rift. Would you say I'm better getting the Pico 4 or the Quest 2 ? I'm planning on making the purchase next month.
They both gonna be a bit jump, if you use it just for pcvr the pico 4 is a more modern headset, if you have a big oculus library not all games might work tho, so it would force you go get a Q2, let me know
@@Tyrielwood I have ZERO Oculus games. I can't purchase them with the currency in my country without an international credit card. So I buy everything on Steam. Seems like I'm getting the Pico 4, then. Thanks for the response. You're always pretty awesome in your videos.
@@JonIceInternational also, you'd need to buy the virtual desktop app (do check though) as some other RUclipsr said it's much better than the pc software pico 4 comes with
Are you aware, that neither the Q2 nor the pico has a DisplayPort? For me personally it’s fine, because I can sacrifice a little graphic fidelity for the wireless freedom I prefer. But many pure pcvr gamers I know cannot really accept a loss in picture quality. That’s the reason for my question.
@@bat-amgalanbat-erdene2621 Absolutely MUST buy VD.
Nice review Tyriel!
I have a question, currently I own the Rift CV1 with a RTX2080 and 8700k i7 and work smooth on almost everything... do you think that my PC can handle the resolution of the Pico 4 for mos of the games?
man some ppl still use the rift CV1 in 2022??
I miss mine.. the resolution was kinda bad but man it was a comfortable headset overall imo.
I have RTX3070 laptop and play half life alyx without issue on quest 2. This has slightly higher resolution but I would assume at least for lower settings you can play.
@@heyjeySigma Unfortunately, in my country (Argentina) importing technology is somewhat expensive, so I have to think very carefully before making a purchase... so far no headset has managed to convince me that making the change was necessary, but the Pico 4 sounds really tempting.
@@heyjeySigma I'm also using my OG oculus Rift. Did order a Pico 4 which should arrive today.. Excited to see how much different it will be XD
Hope you upgraded lmao
Worth it to upgrade from quest 2? I only play pcvr
Pico 4 'pancake' lenses are larger, sweetspot is over 50% (!) of lens surface, big improvement compared to the Quest 2 fresnel lenses. If you use the set mainly for wireless PCVR like me Pico 4 is the better choice. My Quest 2 will be sold....
Software will Catch up...Pico sounds Awesome...
Credible (not sponsored) and honest review, Pico 4 will be my mext headset.
Thank you, Tyriel! I came so close to buying a Pico 3, and I wish the Pico 4 had the same great wired option as the 3. I know your video explains that the paid app wireless option on the 4 is not terrible for PC games. But it leaves me hesitating because the majority of games I would play are on my PC. At any rate, great video!
I play exclusively PCVR games and I also only use wireless. I've used wire before but I will never go back to it. Wireless works just as well in my experience.
@@terese4624 i hate wireless.
the pico 4 doesnt work with a cable?
@@terese4624 how long does the battery last tho? Cuz i am not a 2 hours and 30 minutes kind of gamer
@@reyluna0 Admittedly, the battery life is pretty pathetic. 2 hours and 30 minutes is the high end. It tends to last for a lot less than that. Battery banks are an options, but I haven't explored that yet.
Hey Tyriel. Can you help me? I just got a Pico 4. I created an account with an email address on the VR Assistant android app, verified it, all ok on the app. Then when I try to log in with that email on the Pico4 headset, it says 'This user does not exist'. Any ideas?
I totally agree, had few headsets in the past, use them for few weeks and then finally sold them because of the bad confort !!
You just don’t want to use them if you have to suffer from headaches after 30 min of use, this is why the new quest pro is a true piece of stupidity.
I just hope that Pico will adopt Bigscreen?
Why not Display ort Pico!? Why!!??
Waiting for a headset with ALL the features.
the big deal breaker for me at this point is, can you download and install games you've purchased on the Quest 2 on the Pico 4, or do you have to buy and install them all over again? I like the Quest 2, but for me, vision is always slightly blurry around the edges, and on maximum adjustment, my vision always seems too cropped on the sides. I'm really drawn to the Pancake lenses of the Pico 4, but I'd hate to have to buy all my games again, since both the Quest and Pico share the same (or very similar) UI.
No
it’s kinda obvious that’s a no
It’s 2 different companies 2 different accounts
I was hoping it would be like with Android phones, since at it's core the UI is built on Android. Just because the hardware has Meta and Pico stamped on the box doesn't rule the idea out.
@@MrFreesearcher it doesn’t but the idea of u having to have a mega account and a pico account most likely that’s a pretty big factor that I’m talking about
Are pico 4 vr can connect to pc via usb
So I can play Siants and SInners on this Vr?
The only thing that annoys me is feel of depth, anything closer than 30cm will look completely blurry or out of focus, which is bad for reading or checking details up close, also gets blurry over 40 meters, makes it hard to check details that are far away, realized that on half life alyx, the little vortigaunt wall puzzle to open the gate, i had a bit of trouble reading the wall that far away and my vision is no problem 20/20, its my first vr so i dont know if this is a common problem for all headsets but this is what bothers me a bit, the out of focus up close and far away, like the lenses or game focus are designed for 30cm up to 40meters sight
LOL, so is SDE more noticeable than on the Q2? The context of what you said suggests you see more SDE than the Q2. That would be bad.
yea SDE should be absolutely a thing of the past in 2022... thats ridiculous.
screen door was already kinda gone with the G2 and stuff. this isnt 2017~2019 anymore.
@@heyjeySigma I could have swore he posted that the P4 looked way better than the Q2 and less SDE. Hopefully a language context issue. Else no point getting the P4, IMO.
@@heyjeySigma Do you understand how SDE even comes to be? I wouldnt call it a "solved" thing if you did
Normally you forget about SDE over time as you are playing the game. I assume if it was really bad he would've told us. If its more noticable its only because there is more pix pitch between the pixels and the new flat lenses will allow that to be seen a bit more clearly than before. Seems like its a common thing with the new flat lenses as they are a bit too clear. To say its solved is a bit miss leading... we need something like 8k per eye at 100 degrees before it goes away - but that wont be a thing for a while.
@@marpex-market The review here seems to contradict that, depending on context ;)
Why the controller need to batteries compared just one ine meta quest 2?
is there any video player software in pico 4 like Skybox Quest 2?