How to modernise your Porsche with PCM4 | Part 2 - OEM integrated Carplay
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- Find out how to install carplay and android auto filled PCM4 - forget additional boards, aftermarket head units.... yes this is the OEM one from the 718!
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In 2016 Porsche upgraded the infotainment systems in their vehicles with a new PCM unit, aka PCM 4. From 2012 and Up to MY 2016 PCM 3.1 was fitted in Porsche vehicles, although well received at the outset, it is beginning to show its age.
PCM 4 provides an improved user experience with a higher resolution screen and capacitive touchscreen just like the one on your Apple or Android smartphone, and these changes provided an excellent basis for smartphone integration via Apple Carplay.
Up until now it wasn't entirely clear whether the PCM 4 units could be retrofitted, this video explores whether owners can say goodbye the pcm 3, forget all about Carplay add on circuit boards and retrofit the PCM4 for a fully OEM experience.
Watch this video to find out if it is possible, what has to be done and what is required to add pcm 4 into your Porsche!
Now it is the turn of the 981, I take you through the process and explain how I can support you in doing the same thing!
Please note that if you have BOSE or Burmeister fitted, PCM 4 is not compatible out of the box and you will most likely need to commit to swapping your amplifier if you want to perform this retrofit.
Part numbers:
Too many to mention!
Link to wireless Carplay/Android Auto adapters- www.joyeauto.c...
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Thank you Daryl for your support during the installation of the PCM 4 in my 2016 GT4. Better screen resolution, better touch screen, Apple Car Play, Waze, Google Maps and better sound compared to the PCM 3.1. I'm also very happy that the OEM reversing camera functions as it should. It really has modernised the car interior. Cheers 👍
Thanks for helping me with this install 👍🏼 I’d recommend this to anyone who has the older PCM. The PCM4 is just better in every way. I went from the most basic CDR3.1 to a fully loaded PCM4 with google maps/navigation & Apple CarPlay. Recently tested on a 2000 mile road trip around Europe and I have no complaints. Great work 👍🏼
Thanks Adrian 👍👍👍
Lovely Cayman you have the upgrades and hard work you put in really paid off!
I have the CDR31. Did you have to cut cables or anything for the conversion?
@@panagiotisathanasopoulos no that's why we make the adapter looms to avoid modification and cutting cables in the car. Email if you would like to discuss further.
@@TDS981 Thanks. I have emailed you.
Good stuff! Sadly, I have a Bose system, so will leave this upgrade to others for the moment, but glad to know this can be done. Great to see you putting up new content again!
Thanks appreciate it, I will be back with more 👍
same boat here. and imo the bose system sound great enough to be irreplaceable.
@@salami99 IMO Bose system is a disaster at least in my 991.1 Turbo S. Just replaced it with Helix P6 Ultimate amplifier and Dynaudio Speakers ruclips.net/video/ujuwrJ-bEog/видео.html
Night and Day!!
Hey man, over here in Queens Ny. I am also a 981 owner and i love your channel.
🍻 thanks for saying hello 🗽🚕
This is interesting and pleased to see the video after supporting the first one all that time ago! Great job and I applaud your drive to help the community. I guess the question for me is what it gains you over and above the JoyeAuto or similar system with PCM 3.1. DAB is certainly a very nice to have, and the screen is higher resolution, but ultimately I think that's it? I'm pretty happy with JoyeAuto + PCM 3.1. The quality through the Aux is bad, but I just use wireless carplay and then play music through the iPod USB connection. I'm guessing the total cost of PCM 4 will be 3-4 times the price of the £400 JoyeAuto kit (the PCM 4 alone is circa £1,200 on ebay). Have I missed something?
Thanks for your comment and positive feedback.
I've used both extensively so I'll start by saying the add on boards aren't bad solutions, the issue they all have is that they are held back by the pcm itself. The visuals are quite poor, the touch screen functionality doesn't support how the apps work now, and reliability often isn't up to OEM standard. ( I recall having to reboot very occasionally).
However, the worst thing for me is that they all feel like add ons, it just doesn't feel like it belongs. Whether it be the sound quality, the way to switch between inputs, transfer of data to the cluster, it just never feels very smooth. Your workaround for example to get decent sound isn't ideal and the add on mic solutions aren't ideal either.
Pcm4 on the other hand, the interface feels more like your modern smart phone, it has a bigger higher res screen so you can clearly see the data when you have split screen and it sounds the same on all inputs. It's fully integrated, fully reliable and feels like an OEM solution, using the existing microphone and without the need for a box or connection to the fuse board.
I would say your perception of the price to do this is quite high, this is why I offer support, and remember PCM4 can add value to your car or be taken out when you are done and sold on as a kit. At some point the Pcm3 will stop working, the HDD has a shelf life and then it will need to be cloaned and converted to SD, that also costs money.
@@TDS981I could probably with the lower resolution screen but not the inferior sound. Would an upgrade of the stock amplifier not sort this issue? Despite the Bose upgrade, which many say still isn’t great improvement over the base system, an amplifier from a third party should give a genuinely upgrade, shouldn’t it?
The issue is the input on that particular board it's using the aux channel for sound. There are other options which use fibre optic now but once you've used one you'll know what I mean.
Magnificent work mate, I Am really 100% interested in installing this into my manual 981 Cayman, however, I don't have access to PV software, otherwise, I am happy to do the rest myself.
Thanks, I now have a solution that can help with that challenge, drop me an email 👍🏼
Man where you been? Good to see you back at it!
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Well done on getting this to work!!
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Noticed a new steering wheel! Video coming soon on that? I need to change mine. UK video with parts links and costs would be good. I’ve noticed 718 wheels cheaper than 981 ones.
Yes I filmed that process so will share. Appreciate the idea 💡
I did this in
My Cayman with Bose. Ended up switching to match up amp audison speakers and zen tv most interface. I had the upgraded steering wheel with gpsadapter. Had to upgrade the clockspring which made the gpsadapter obsolete. Still have to figure out the backup camera. Also noticed recent calls do not show in cluster. Still would do it all over again. Since it allowed voice control and the ability to add track app etc.
Excellent video as always, for me it would be easier to buy a new car 🤣
That looks tough mate !!
Hope you are well, I remember you did that already! Definitely easier !
Is there any cons or lost of features upgrading from pcm3.1 to pcm4 in a 991.1 gt3rs?
Your videos are great! When you are clarifying install steps or providing more detailed information, I recommend lowering the music volume or removing it all together. I get setting the tone with intros, transitions, and outros, but laying beats over your instructional guidance makes it difficult to follow the steps.
Thanks for the tips! For my understanding where exactly in the video do you mean ? I generally add music where I am visually showing the process rather than explaining specific steps.
Buying a 981 GT4 soon. Saving this for later.
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Man, thanks from France for all ur informations !
i suspect within thenext 5 years Porsche will release pcm upgrade for the 981 sometime after the 718 generation ends.
They haven't delivered on the 987.2 yet so even if they do I suspect it will be a long wait.
@@TDS981 i agree, I think maybe they skipped the 987.2 because it's different from the 987.1 and they did not sell alot of the 987.2s afaik i guess they couldn't justify the business case. Luckily pcm4 is almost a direct fit minus some most protocol handling and programming to work with older kombicluster software. maybe they will just skip the 987.2 forever and move on the 981. at least their are a ton of 981's and it would be mostly the same parts hardware wise. wishful thinking. I have the carplay mod anyway and a rennline phone holder that's good enough for me for now
@@salami99 it gets more complicated to retrofit in the later generations but I don't think they will skip the .2 cars, 981 is a long way off still.
I so need this PCM conversion. I’m going back from a 718 4.0 to a 981 this week and one of my biggest reservations is having a PCM 3.1 😢. I’m booked for an Apple CarPlay upgrade a week later but think it’s going to be a compromise. When are Porsche going to make an upgraded unit for the 981/991 as they’ve done for the 987/997 range? Not sure I want to wait but I’m guessing when it comes it will be Bose compatible
Yes those systems are ok but all are held back by the 3.1.
If they release an official retrofit kit I would expect it to be compatible but that's a big if on both counts, and I think it's a long way off as they have more complexity with the cluster than in the previous models.
Great job on the retrofit. It’s a shame about the nav not appearing in the cluster. Is this a hardware limitation of the cluster itself?
Yes 👍🏼 it's really not much of a loss the pcm maps are no longer needed, you would want Waze or Google maps in the display anyway and that functionality is not possible even on the latest 718 models sadly.
@@TDS981 I've read that installing a 718 cluster sorts the maps in cluster, but it does cause issues with the analogue rev count.
@@richardkhedges I'm confident I can fix that ( if that rumour is true) for me the level of work is not worth the benefit of having the OEM map on screen. If it was Waze I would probably do it but that's not possible.
Have you found a way to retain the mapping in the cluster? I've used mapping in the center a lot, but in the main cluster seems so much better.
Yes but it's not important to me when it won't display Waze or Google Maps. OEM nav is beyond useless
@@TDS981 Even for backroads that have been static for many years? I just like having some sort of heads up for the roads that I am unfamiliar with. Waze would still be the go-to for actual nav.
@@Jazz3006 we can send away the cluster to be modified or fit one from the 718 but it's not worth the effort or hassle, if you prefer to take your eyes off the road to work out what's next 🤣 then the extra glance down at the screen won't make a huge difference.
There might be a low cost solution for Bose/Burmeister but i need a tester, someone who is willing to buy the pcm4 and we can try! ✉️ For details
Hi I willing to give it a go
@@n2ejd4568 drop me an email, address in description
Also willing to give it a go! If you need another tester. Desperate to get to pcm 4.0. We had communicated a few months ago but when we spoke you mentioned needing an amp and pcm from the same vehicle and I’ve been having a hard time finding both vin matching.
I've sent you an email buddy 👍
I'd do it but I'd need you to come to Australia hahahahah
Is it possible to have pcm 4.0 with the steering wheel controls ? On a upgraded wheel
Yes it's possible I've been successful in helping others with the retrofitted multi function wheel from later models.
@@TDS981 awesome! I’m interested on doing this on a 981 boxster that has the Bose system. From what I read I will need the piwis 2 or 3 system a pcm4 unit a steering wheel from a 718 or macan and probably an adapter for the wheel.
Let me know how I can contact you! So I can buy the harnesses and any tips on how to do it!
@@TDS981 I don’t have the sport chrono package so I will also try to upgrade to that.
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Email is in the description, get in touch 👍🏼
testdrivescotland@gmail.com
Was sat here getting all excited then remembered my Cayenne has Bose :(
😭 can be done just more expensive, talk to a local audio expert about it.
Did you lower the car? Looks lower than before.. X73?
Very well spotted, update on that coming 🔜
@@TDS981 Nice! Looking forward to the update. I'm thinking about X73 springs on my PASM suspension
@@kjdewolff then you will enjoy watching me do the same
@@TDS981 Can't wait!
@@TDS981 When are you planning to upload the x73 video?
have you given up/
A new video is coming very soon, and I'll upload from time to time but the majority of my spare time is now focused on pcm4 support and installations.
Thanks for all the awesome content!
Thanks very kind of you 👍
Is there any cons or lost of features upgrading from a pcm3.1 to pcm4 in a gt3rs 991.1? Thanks
Just one - we lose the OEM maps page in the cluster, we maintain the directions but can't display the map, it's no big loss when you are using carplay or android auto instead.
Thanks for your videos. I see a new steering wheel, is there a video?
Thanks, and well spotted. It will follow along with the other things I've been doing, there are at least 3 more if you look closely 😂
What front lip do you have?
@@cryptic_197 I don't have any lip
Given that everyone with pcm 3.1 is dealing with failing hard drives and bootloop issues, would be nice if Porsche would make an upgrade kit.
Nice :)
Another change I noticed, do you have a glass wind deflector?
Yes that too 👍 still 2 more to find
@@TDS981 Haha, painted roll bar covers is number 3. I'll leave number 4 for somebody else :-)
@@kjdewolff you are on a roll
I have a 2015 981. How much did it cost?
Email for a quote.
@TDS981 thanks but I'm in Canada
Not a problem can supply and support the installation.
I just bought a 2014 Cayenne Diesel and was considering a MR12Volt Carplay module... until I saw your videos. I really want to do this swap and even have a MIB1-to-MIB2 adapter harness and USB module from a failed experiment installing a MIB2 in my VW...
I'll be looking forward to updates on getting the Bose system to work without the amplifier swap - that's the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger on an eBay unit (that and the fact that it's going in for warranty work this week so I don't really need to spend the money on it until we get it back).
P.S. I'm in the U.S. - any thoughts on if the swap is still as straightforward on U.S. cars? I know sometimes there are subtle differences between the markets...
Hi Paul, I'll keep you informed I'll know more about it later this month I hope. The US cars are not really any different just software in the unit itself.
Excellent. Would love to do this on my 981CS. Only the wiring loom intimidates me but your service can address that. PIWIS cluster programming might be an adventure. How well do you understand the procedure. Does PIWIS automatically recognize the PCM4.0 module installed and program accordingly? The cluster is only coding I presume?
All of your points are addressed in the video.
@@TDS981 not well enough to address my concerns about bricking my car. We need more information about the PIWIS procedure if you can share. Thanks
@@BurnsRubber please drop me a email to address provided in description and I can answer any additional queries and prepare an estimate for your specific car.
There is no "i" in Burmester. 😊
Thanks for doing the work to figure this out and build the wiring.
Noted 👍🏼
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Is there a possibility that doing all this could ever result in a disaster(as in killing the car)?
The process is reversible by making an adapter loom we don't damage or change the original vehicle harness. When you flash a module you run the risk of losing that module but you can mitigate that risk by following the correct procedure.
Impressive presentation! I am going to get a 981 Boxster. Should I be looking for a new head unit? If so, which head unit do you recommend? Once I have done that I'd like to use your services!
Pcm4
@@TDS981 Which head unit do I get?
@@hawaiirealmedia5610 get the car and then email me for an estimate and we will work that out
Hi Dan, So much want pcm4.0 in my 981, but I have Bose and reckon I’d sorely miss having the map & nav directions in the cluster. Ironic isn’t it, since pcm 4.0 main screen would bring CarPlay and Waze onto the main pcm screen better anyway!! Hmmm….
I noticed you’ve updated your steering wheel too. I want to do the same but would go full multifunction (have the sport design currently so no m/f), would go heated (don’t have currently either), and would buy a s/w that has the mode dial - the latest module by Li Paul - gpsadapters will automatically give me m/f functionality now without any new coding apparently if I’ve read his info correctly, but I believe I will still need a new clock spring and coding to activate heating - do you know if this is correct? Appreciate your wheel upgrade was not the m/f version. I do not have a PIWIS or know anyone near me in Newcastle that has one (and is knowledgeable with using it).
Just doing some chin rubbing/head scratching before seeking out a steering wheel. New airbag, clockspring, gpsadapter etc etc….
Hi, directions still work in the cluster just not the map display but you would have no reason to use it anyway when you have waze on split screen on the pcm.
I'm not a big believer in the mode dial on the MF wheel it doesn't offer anything particularly useful and it's also rather expensive.
Yes you won't have the activation code for heating in your existing steering control module so you would need to make additional upgrades.
@@TDS981 thanks for the info Daz - sorry for the typo on your name - didn’t check before I hit send. Is the steering control module a separate unit or is this what’s referred to as the clockspring? Good to know about the directions showing in the cluster - that nudges me further in the direction (no pun intended!) still the Nose thing to consider too.
You'll need a clock spring I think, the wheel should come with the smaller module inside.
If you do the pcm 4.0 and code the cluster the gpsadapter will not work. I did the conversion and had to add a new clockspring. I lost the ability to use the sport chrono knob on the steering wheel. It still lights up to match sport and sport plus but does not function to switch.
Hi I have a 2016 GTS with Bose but still interested in the upgrade, can you advised me
Hi, yes of course I can. If you have the budget it can be done and I can help you.
@@TDS981 Excellent, I have been trying to source a head unit, think you mentioned something about replacing the Bose module what would be the cost of the wiring harness.
I'm in Birmingham UK so could possibly arrange a day out 🫣
Hi any idea as to a cost to complete the upgrade
If there is ever an installer in Melbourne, Australia who wants to do it for me let me know. I can't even change a pucture on my bicycle, there's no way I could do this.
I find your lack of faith disturbing 🤚🏼
Sure there will be someone with the software the rest isn't so bad.
@@TDS981 Honeslty mate I'm like "Frank Spencer" I stuff everything up. Hahahahahaha
@@_LeeTurner ooh Betty
@@TDS981 yep 😂😂😂😂😂
I installed a new circuit board inside the PCM in my 981 GTS and that gave me Car Play and Android Auto for about £130 all in
So did I but I ripped it out after a while, not good enough.
@@TDS981 For me it's 'good enough' a compromise of cost, functionality/reliability etc and ease of installation
On a different tack, does your 981 rattle much with the hood up? (Dash, interior trim, that sort of thing rather than mechanical, engine etc)
@@pugrallye23 as long you are enjoying the car and experience all that matters 👍
Not really it's quite well put together, I recall in the past I had some plastic rubbing/creaking from the hoops when it was cold but I applied some felt tape it's been fine. Anything in particular on yours?
@@TDS981 mainly it's those little flaps that stand upright next to the headrests when the roof is up (they lie flat when the roof is down)
Plus a few assorted rattles that seem to come from the front of the passenger compartment/dashboard
Although previous rattle-chasing in other cars has taught me that often the source of rattle is in the opposite direction in which the sound is coming from
@@pugrallye23 My 981 Boxster GTS has these exact same rattles from the wings and passenger compartment. It's an 8 year old car, so I kind of get it, but would have expected more from a car that had an MSRP of >$100K new.
Love your channel.
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Did you ever tackle the backup camera?
Yes done it also but not on my car, I can supply a harness that will need to be added to your wiring. 4 connections.
Oem or after market? I wired an oem style harness to a 95B 980 551 L but kept getting communication error. PIWIS sees it and it knows when I put the car in reverse but nothing happens. I connected power ground can bus high and canbus low.
@@vartechinc yes I'm confident that I know the problem. You can email and I'll find you a support slot if you would like.
I will once I get the car of the storage