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BROKEN VALVE SPRING | Ford Superduty 6.2 GAS V8
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2020
- Ford 6.2 liter gas V8s with broken valve springs may want to reference this video when tearing into their vehicle. Hey family welcome back!! Tonight I know that it is not a Powerstroke but LOTS of my customers have fleets of these vehicle with the 6.7 and 6.2. There is a need to repair them all and to get them back safely on the road. Drop me a line and tell me what you think in the comment section below. Have you had your valve springs replaced on your 6.2?? Was it the exhaust or the intake? Did you do it, or did a shop do it?
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I recommend using a ratchet strap to hold the handle of the compression tool. I was exhausted too watching you fight those keepers and hold a bind on the compression tool 😂. Good job, great video 👍
I love the realness of putting those keepers in... Yes they can be a pain
I’ve always remove the spark plug and feed in starter rope to fill the cylinder then rotate the piston till it’s compresses the rope against the valves to hold them in place. After the spring repair turn the engine backwards and pull the rope out.
Yeah that's the way I always do it I don't trust shop air, all it takes is for somebody to accidentally disconnect it or the hose to blow apart and now you're pulling a cylinder head........
@@lustfulvengance Yes, it can also push the piston down. I have a 90s 32v 4.6L DOHC, I've replaced one or two. Wasn't a widespread problem and they never damage the head. Quite similar to this, I bet the special cam shaft pivot tool would even work.
What kind of rope? Can you reply please?
@@mtsanchez27 I use starter rope for lawnmowers.
@@milkman99100 I'll keep that in mind, thank you!!
ratchet strap across the engine to whatever your handle is for the compressor. I use a breaker or ratchet because mine has a 1/2” square drive on it. Saves your arms and sanity.
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FYI always bring the piston to TDC when removing valve springs, that way in case the air hose blows or something else happens the valve can't fall out, BTW great video and for a 90k engine it's clean on the inside.
It twas, thanks 4 watchin
Can pack some rope in cylinder too. Then valve isnt going anywhere. I have recoil rope for the old school way of doing it.
Add some more 6.2 repairs if you are able. Thank you for the video!
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Did one of mine today....PIA for a home mechanic used the one valve compressor had to screw it as tight as I could then tighten it up to get enough pull to make spring small enough for keepers to go in...
First off, yet another EXCELLENT video for my routine Friday night viewing pleasure. Second, admittedly I haven't needed to do too many broken valve spring replacements THANKFULLY. But the ones I do recall doing are one in a 5.0 Coyote V8 most recently in a Mustang GT, and I believe a couple 5.4s and 4.6s prior to that. For all the years the 6.2 has been out, this is the very first time I've seen one with the valve cover off. Can you believe that? That should speak to its reliability. Speaking of 6.2s, Ford apparently has released an FSA for a few trucks that mistakenly made it into production with oversized pistons if you can believe that. The letter is 20U28 I believe. Want a helping hint? Next time you're into one of these, or for anyone else who's into one of these for that matter, some Vaseline around the valve keepers will aid in having the keepers adhere to the valve stem during the extremely tedious installation process. For very obvious reasons, someone who suffers from the dropsies will not want to take on this repair.
🤣🤣🤣well said brother
In the mid 90s the 32V 4.6L engines had this issue. They had two special tools for the intake and exhaust. The 2V also could use one of them, this is similar. Never any engine damage. The older Ford 2Vs also needed valve seal service, of course similar procedure. They never had spring issues.
Great job an actually raw video when it's actually shown how hard it's this kind a job even with the right tools.
Use a ratchet strap hooked into the top hole by the handle then attach the other end to a good anchor point and use the ratchet to tighten and hold the spring down freeing up both your hands while positioning the keepers. 👍
Man I know you’re the pro but I think that spring compressor made the job three times harder than it needed to be. The single spring tool has always worked like a breeze for me.
Alls i got...i need em fer all
What single spring tool, is it you got?
It seems kinda common on these. Luckily I haven't had the issue on my raptor. 135k *hard* miles and still strong 💪
I gotchu!!
Gotta love the 6.2s broken valve springs for days. Old 5.4 shooting plugs out the heads good times an memories right there lol
Hahahaha
I remember doing that job. It's a pain. Get a second person to help ya next time. One person on the valve spring compressor another doing the keepers. It helps !!!
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What a tedious job!! You handled like a boss. 👍🏻. I think I would loose my mind if I had to do 16 of those. 😬
Years ago I did it with a fork too that I made and still have. wasn't as hard as that! Great job Arod. My arms hurt from watching, a good hurt though.
No doubt!
I am going to take off some valve covers tomorrow of a customers car.great video, now i know what to look for.
Thank you for this video. Definitely sending mine to Jake's Automotive in Oswego. Nate can cus at my girl lol. I don't have the patients or tools for this problem. My 6.2 wouldn't go past 20mph without bogging down leaving a Chem trail for miles. Oil gushing through the exaust system. I need to work on my triceps after watching this struggle lol. Great job man!
Nope .. I’m a computer nerd .. you can’t pay me enough. Thankfully y’all techs are there for us. Interesting episode!
Oh come on Michael, you can take a break on your AS400 V5R4 computer work, to tear down a 6.2 for a valve spring replacement LOL.
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@@superduty4828 .. my luck? Nope. Step two .. pull the head cause I dropped the effin valve in the block. 🤓
Hahahahahaha, hello dial..800 ptt ahh do u do service calls lolol
Yeah I wish mine had been this easy, mine dropped the valve, piston in pan with wrist pin and half a connecting rod. Was pulling trailer at around 65mph up hill when it let go, $7K later I got me engine.
$hhhhit 😔
Great video! Do more 6.2 videos if you can. Thanks for posting!
Man, that was a toughy, I used that single spring compressor you mentioned so I was able to use two hands on my 4.2L when a spring broke. But it was cyl #1 so right there at the front!
Omg! I was breathing with you! That needs to be a two man job! One holding the bar!
Thank Christ for RUclips.....this is definitely a repair i will not be touching!
I bought a 2019 f250 crew cab long bed mid 2020. I was going to get the new gas 7.3 but figure I would wait a while. I choose the 6.2 because its been out a while and feel most of the bugs should have been fixed by now. I'm sure ill have issues just like any other vehicle does. Just hoping Its not for a long time. Great video thanks for sharing. About what would it cost for the service you just did?
first on the vehicle valve spring I did was on a gen 1 hemi, valve dropped on me like yours did but I wasn't luck, tried for 2 hours to fish that valve back up, had to pull the head. I heard a trick from an old timer, instead of air, fill the cylinder with rope through the plug hole and then bring the piston up, I haven't tried it, never had rope around when the job needed done.
Yea ive heard that toooo
🤣🤣 I could feel the the pain I was holding my breath and breathing hard just watching like I was doing it .. nice job and thanks for the video keep it up bro
Hahahahaha
Been there before not fun at all! I use pocket screwdriver method also but put grease on end of screwdriver and keeper so not fighting magnetic and helps keeper stay attached to valve stem while doing second keeper. Nice job man 👍
Thanks guy!!!
What a pain but nice job. Yeah, a little Vaseline on the keepers should help. I have a 6.2L and hopefully I don't have this happen. I'm new to your channel and like the videos you put out. Please post more 6.2L content when you can. Happy wrenching!
Thanks buddy!
Well that was a close call. It always seems you need a third hand.great work
Jezus i know 😵
Now THATS some camera work! Those keepers are always scary lol. Great video!👍🏽
Thanks pal, appreciate that, enjoy your weekend
Hey just saw your 6.2 valve spring replacement. I'm doing the same thing on a 2015 250 6.2 my 78yr old dad bought on line. I'm not a mechanic but am mechanically inclined do you have to remove th entire fuel rail off the valve cover on drivers side?
Those retainers kicked your ass brotha! Need to invent a magnet pocket tool that you can hit a button and disconnect the magnetism. That or hit them lat pull downs a little more at tha gym! Lol #PTTgymTimeWithAROD 😂
Lmaoooooooooooo
"Heavy breathing" 😂
Bro, omg...i was sweating so bad
1:39 6.2’s come from the factory running like a dog 😂
Very great video! Only thing I would have liked to have seen is a side by side comparison of the broken valve with the new one.
I like using valve spring compressors that clamp on just the spring. The one you use requires you to keep constant pressure on the spring with one hand while you try to install the keepers with the other wearing you out.
Yea i knw
5:59 Cuz you didn't show us how you got the Turbo off. So now I am stuck on that step!
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Boy you really struggled with those keepers, have you tried using surgical forceps?? Or even using bearing grease to hold them on the end of screw driver or something like that??
I was using a magnet
you have patience of a saint! I would have lost those keepers for sure! Isnt there any way to lock the arm on that tool into the down postion? that way you have both hands to work with....
No
Man that was an awesome video, thanks for showing exactly how it could be done. I know you needed to wiggle the tool sometimes but do you think you could of rigged a chain with a turnbuckle to hold it once you had it pretty close to set. No way could I have held it that long without frustration setting in and dropping those keepers. Well anyway thanks so much for a good job.
Naw, that lol wldnt have worked
Ptt with the good content on Friday. I'd say its a good start to the weekend.
Hey buddy 🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
What's causing the broken springs on these engines? Lack of oil? I've watched different videos on these 6.2s, and it seems all cylinders are prone to valve spring break. I thought it was just the springs on the back 2 cylinders. Is this turning out to be a common problem for the Ford 6.2? I am (was) considering buying a Super Duty with the 6.2. Not so sure about that now.
Jst 1 trk u i did bub...
I would have compressed that spring and put a motorcycle strap on the handle of that tool. Or even something between the handle and the inner fender to hold it. 😅
ive done this a dozen times on a 351 400 460 ,, all i did was break a spark plug and welded it to a small tube and had an air end welded at the other end total length was 8 inches , then made a lever bar 6 inches and cut out the one end like a fork,, so i could put it on a rocker stud and put a nut on the top of my bar i made the fork one,, and yes i did drill a hole so i could fit it over the stud,, the putting a coat hanger in the spark plug hole ,,to see if the pistong was up all the way ,, on the COMPRESSION stroke , so i put the air to 80 lbs,, press down on the lever and take the keepers out,, change the spring and when putting back the keepers ,, USE YOUR BARE HADS ,,hey not to say you didnt do a good job but on this one get rid of those blue goves ,, BE a MAN,
My guy, just use a pair of small needle noses with the magnet connected to them. Works a lot better than trying to do it with just a magnet by itself.
Synthetic oil in that truck? Nice and clean in there.
When doing this job how much air is needed in the cylinder
Shop pressure, 160...
Thanks
Wow that last part doesn't sound fun. Good video sir, thanks ARod
The struggle is real !!!!! Good job buddy
Werd like son
Great video. The devil lives in the details. I have a duty with the 6.2 gasser and I will keep this vid in my back pocket in case.
I got chu!!
I did one and the guy who did it before lock tighted the valve cover doors down.... and all snapped even with heat... removing the broken bolts were worse then the valve spring replacement itself
Omg...r u kidding me what!!
On these 6.2 passenger side , 1234 and driver side is 5678?? Really asking, trying to hunt down a miss fire on my 16 f250 6.2
How common is this ? I just bought my 2014 raptor and now Im worried lol it has 80k miles on it
Thanks!
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Good evening, Blessings, greetings from San Carlos, Costa Rica, I am interested in buying a 2014 6.2 Ford F150 Raptor. Seeing information, they say that the 6.2 gasoline engine breaks the valve springs. The question is, how many kilometers or miles do the valve springs break? of that 6.2 l question is to prevent changing springs before their time that they break and cause serious problems in the engine
It really all depends. No given mileage or time
Do those break often? Is the 6.2 pretty reliable??
Next time goop the inside of the keeper in grease…….you can also do what I do take a dab of grease on the flat of the screwdriver and it gives you a better angle. Also ratchet strap the the handle of your compressor so you have two free hands….
Need another person to help
If one spring break at 100,000 miles, should the dealer replace all if it's under warranty? What's the chance of another spring failing if you replace only the broken spring?
Nah just that one
I’m surprised you’re not using grease on the inside of the keeper to help aide in keeping the keeper in place as you put them back on the valve.
Sucha mess, almost counterintuitive to the whole process....🤷♂️
I did one time on the 5.0 it took me 3 days with no tools just with home made tools I was so stressed out doing that i think is not easy the magnet always bring the cone back
My arse hole almost slammed shut when that valve fell down.
Bro, ur tellin me....& i wasn't even about to edit that out...it happened juss like that REAL TALK yall seen it..💯🙊 PTT keepin 💯💯
i would drag a screw driver over a magnet and magnetize the screwdriver,, just enough to hold keeper,,, using a magnet is to strong as demonstrated in vid ,, enjoyed watching you struggle as i have myself at times,, lol
Good video, you really could have used some help getting those keepers in? I'm sure its hard to find a helper if you all are on book hour pay!
Why didn't you put a breaker bar on the tool on that square by the handle to increase leverage.
All i hads
great video!!! What are the Torque specs when putting back the assembly on the springs?
Gooogle...i dont remember
Damn Bro I was rooting for you all the way through! Would an extra set of hands have been better. One installing the keepers and the other guy on the spring compressor?
Yuppp
Could you have used a 6 point socket and a breaker bar on the end of that tool shaft to gain more leverage?
Was about to hit fender
Oh, right on, I thought you were working up top and rotating the tool handle toward the middle of the engine bay to compress the spring.
1 down 15 to go😂
Seriously, is the replacement the exact same part are is there an upgraded spring?
Same gd part
If number three cylinder would’ve been top dead center and the valve fell in would it fall all the way through, that would be good insurance if that is true and by making sure you’re on top dead center that would prevent you from having to pull the head in case the cylinder was all the way down
.....y do u think u have 2 air up the cylinder.......
I wonder how common this problem is on the 6.2?
Very, hence me making the video
Holy Jesus bro!!!
But you got it done.. good job
Yahhhh
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
Sounded kinda like an ass whipper
Yea i was sweatin my ass offff
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod
Sweatin like a fat kid!!!! Lmao
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Nice job ARod.
Thanks pal
Nicely done👍 Been there a time or two..:)
Is there an average amount of miles this is happening at? Say like 100k+- or just all over the place?
No rhyme or reason
My only question was why not replace them all since they are failure prone.
After watching the keeper install, I now know why
You fix whats broke my friend
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod love the videos. Silly question, is there a fuel filter on the 6.2s? I can't find anything on it
Integral to da pump, silly i know but thats how they got it
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod pretty sure my pump on my 17 has the leaking prime so I'll have to replace it anyways. Have you seen that issue?
Yes, needs a pump stat. Watch my SD tank removal video beforehand
Would it not make sense to put each cylinder at tdc after removing the rocker shafts?
No need to
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod you wouldn't have to worry about losing the valve all the way down the cylinder
@alyx1715 Only the cylinder I'm working on is that top dead center. And there's air blowing in through the spark. Plug hole via a special tool
Nice job!
What is the tightening torque used by the flute of the rocker arms?
Dude you Just Stress me out! 😅
Great video
I am old school when it comes to valve Springs if one broke I would change all of them.....
Maybe you need more leverage or a helper might me time efficient?
Stressing me out bro hearing breathing like that, made my shoulder hurt. lol. Spent half the video yelling at the screen “USE A BREAKER BAR, THERES A 1/2in SQUARE ON THE HANDLE!!!” lol!!!
Arrrrrrr i didnt have 1
Good luck 👍
The Struggle is real. I have the other tool and it's super hard and next to impossible to use. I dread changing those springs. I will definitely be looking to purchase that tool for future use. Looks alot easier to use. Thanks for the heads up on the tool.
Real talk 💯
Done a few of these, some aren’t so lucky. Always seems to be cylinder 6 or 7. #dropdemvalves
Mine did 7 8 and 2 at different times. Lucky me when 8 broke it dropped and put 2 holes in the block. Put a used 90000 mile motor in it and 2 weeks later 8 broke again.Put 16 new springs in it and 2 months later looks like another has broke. There has got to be something better then these ford springs!!!!
Next time bring the piston down a little ways and fill the cylinder with string then bring the piston back up to hold the valves shut, much better than air!
Why's this a common issue for the 6.2L.
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can you do a video on the trans? pan sealed or removable? serviceability? on the 10 speed diesel variant
Yes sir!!!!!!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod thank you and very cool personal truck!
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod also is the trans tuneable?
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Thanks pal
Very nice vid... Labor hours?
Hey man my 2014 6.2 is having multiple misfires. Took it to a shop he said electrical is fine. Something wrong with the cylinder 1 it drops the pressure suddenly. And runs with misfires. what do you think about it? Also where are you locsted?
Detroit
@@PowerStrokeTechTalkwARod do you think I need to get my valves done or just put a bed engine?
I duno bub, kinda a vague description. I have to at least hear the F...er
Did you ever think about using the video glasses like EXOVCDS used to?
Buy em for me
Where is your helper or your cheater bar to help lever your push handle.
All i got bruh
Great Job ! But that tool was way too much hardware and over complicated the repair . 1 Piece valve spring compressor would have been much simpler.
Whats the chances of this happening on any random truck? I know this is an issue but never heard what the percentage of trucks can expect this to happen
I don't have that number for you
Is That common on the 6.2 v8. Do you recommend that engine. Thank you
Happens
You would think that a tool manufacturer would have made that thing where you could lock it in place once spring is compressed. Something as simple as a cam gear and paw to lock it in place Tool manufactures need to do better
Yea i feel ya...but you almost have to manipulate the spring & keepers with the small up & down motions of the tool going up & down..