The Boeing 787 Has a MASSIVE Problem

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • The Boeing 787 has a massive problem. Take a look at the wing of this brand new Dreamliner; it’s absolutely covered in speed tape. That’s because its paint is peeling, and needs to be patched up. Why is this such a problem? Let me explain...
    #Boeing #787 #aviation #planespotting #avgeek #airplane

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  • @edwardkelly6969
    @edwardkelly6969 11 месяцев назад +4211

    To be fair, the A350 has the same issue because they both are made of carbon fiber.

    • @snorttroll4379
      @snorttroll4379 11 месяцев назад +25

      What caues it?

    • @jimmiller5600
      @jimmiller5600 11 месяцев назад +371

      @@snorttroll4379 Composites take paint differently than aluminum. The industry is still working on solutions. Qatar sued Airbus for $B for the same problem.

    • @Elliasp-xx7mb
      @Elliasp-xx7mb 11 месяцев назад

      yes, this is what I though... composite material is a bitch ^^

    • @mohammadnoman370
      @mohammadnoman370 11 месяцев назад +74

      Airbus fixed that some time ago

    • @NotASeriousMoose
      @NotASeriousMoose 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@jimmiller5600No no, Qatar used the carbon fibre problems to try scam Airbus out of billions.
      Thats quite a difference.

  • @jimmymifsud1
    @jimmymifsud1 10 месяцев назад +940

    Tape = FAA Approved
    New Paint = Nah dawg

    • @YolandaPlayne
      @YolandaPlayne 8 месяцев назад +30

      FAA works for Boeing. More delay = money saved.

    • @AndrewPalmerJazz
      @AndrewPalmerJazz 8 месяцев назад

      @@YolandaPlayne Lol. No, that's not it. Boeing didn't bribe the government to get in the way of doing what it wanted to do. Boeing actually does answer to a bunch of bureaucratic nonsense.

    • @valjoker7
      @valjoker7 8 месяцев назад +29

      The tape has gone through the approval process. The new paint has not. It can take years to approve a new item for use on aircraft. Let's not forget that before it can be approved for use on an aircraft it must be approved by the EPA and OSHA.

    • @ElaborateTiger
      @ElaborateTiger 6 месяцев назад +9

      I wouldn't trust Boeing's judgment on anything, they were the ones that approved MCAS without informing pilots.

    • @salmonkill7
      @salmonkill7 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@valjoker7How about dissolving OSHA and the EPA? lol😅

  • @chrishb7074
    @chrishb7074 11 месяцев назад +1381

    They need a sticky tape that doesn’t look like Gaffer. It needs an arty pattern or shiny colour scheme so it looks all hi-tech and special, instead of the bodge it is.

    • @gleswick8399
      @gleswick8399 11 месяцев назад +36

      Makes a lot of sense! I can imagine tape with futuristic patterns being used.

    • @Llkdd1987
      @Llkdd1987 11 месяцев назад

      Possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Tape with an artsy pattern.

    • @afridgetoofar1818
      @afridgetoofar1818 11 месяцев назад +8

      They should use that day glo orange duct tape

    • @PhireXZ
      @PhireXZ 11 месяцев назад +23

      If they used Donald duck tape it would be way less scary for the passengers

    • @SF-ul2mr
      @SF-ul2mr 10 месяцев назад +2

      Its made out of aluminum its not duct tape

  • @OmegaCorsair
    @OmegaCorsair 11 месяцев назад +727

    The dreamliner’s wings remind me of the Su-57 Camo livery

    • @LNYT-Aviation
      @LNYT-Aviation 11 месяцев назад +13

      😂

    • @harrisn3693
      @harrisn3693 11 месяцев назад +22

      But the difference is the SU-57 ain’t literal crap like Boeing commercial planes

    • @Aidan-fw1xr
      @Aidan-fw1xr 11 месяцев назад +16

      And in reality both Boeings modern planes, and Russias fighter jets have the same quality and reliability! 😂
      Their commercial airliners obviously, their fighter jets are too notch and I’ve even gotten to see production of them 💪

    • @Luke-mi1sd
      @Luke-mi1sd 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@harrisn3693😂😂😂😂 what, all 4 of them they’ve managed to build. And they’re supposedly good, if the engines actually start. But all Russia has proven in the last 14 months is that they way way overhyped their military capabilities and technology.

    • @srisairampraveenganisetti
      @srisairampraveenganisetti 10 месяцев назад

      @@Luke-mi1sd drunk ? Russia is fighting against 40+++ countries soo called nato . Russia destroyed overhyped Hollywood military 😂 they captured Hollywood military equipment like Bradley etc. They examined Bradley's and said they never seen carp like that😂.safe fate happened to German tanks lmao. Bradley is just destroyed by a 100$ rpg haha. Coming to Hollywood military they can't even beat 🐫 riders with sandles with no airforce whatsoever 😂 left 83.5 billions worth of equipment

  • @williamwade7059
    @williamwade7059 10 месяцев назад +30

    It's a common problem in the paint industry. To produce a paint that works and doesn't kill people and the environment isn't easy.

  • @lukaszslowakiewicz9395
    @lukaszslowakiewicz9395 11 месяцев назад +358

    Duct tape - repairing aircraft since the Vietnam war.

    • @joeljustin
      @joeljustin 11 месяцев назад +36

      In this case, speed tape is meant to improve aerodynamic performance by masking rough edges like chipping paint. And it's way more expensive than duct tape.

    • @zztops4504
      @zztops4504 11 месяцев назад

      Or super glue

    • @topgun1457
      @topgun1457 11 месяцев назад +2

      they repaired planes in ww2 with duct tape as well

    • @justing42
      @justing42 10 месяцев назад +5

      the plural of aircraft is AIRCRAFT. There is no such thing as "aircraft's". Been an airline mechanic for 30 years.

    • @justing42
      @justing42 10 месяцев назад

      speed tape is used for sealing doors and panels that have broken hinges and cant stay closed, many many uses for it.@@joeljustin

  • @johnstuartsmith
    @johnstuartsmith 10 месяцев назад +125

    None of the 1,000 787s that have been flying around for the last 12 years have ever crashed, or caused any passenger injuries. Peeling paint isn't the worst "massive problem" the world of aviation has ever had.

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 10 месяцев назад +13

      yea this dude just clickbaits left and right. Algorithm requires it, but some people do a closer to reality bait than this channel.

    • @theborg5981
      @theborg5981 10 месяцев назад +3

      Luckily it wasn't a repeat of the Ford pinto, in that Boeing sorted out the fire issue (lithium Ion battery teething problems) before putting it into production

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 10 месяцев назад +3

      I've seen plenty of older planes that really need to visit a paint shop.

    • @soilentgreen7
      @soilentgreen7 10 месяцев назад +1

      yet, lets see if the fuselages come apart with the gap issue

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@soilentgreen7 You mean the ones that have been fixed or the ones that aren't an airworthiness issue?

  • @miguiaus9993
    @miguiaus9993 11 месяцев назад +236

    This is because composite materials don't hold the paint the same way as metal alloy did. This is something we are learning to fix now. It is a cosmetic issue and that's it.

    • @magellanmax
      @magellanmax 10 месяцев назад +8

      It's a cosmetic issue today, tomorrow may bring a different reality.

    • @miguiaus9993
      @miguiaus9993 10 месяцев назад +23

      @@magellanmax that's not how any of this works. Stripped paint does not affect the structural integrity of the material underneath it.

    • @magellanmax
      @magellanmax 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@miguiaus9993 An uneven surface of a wing dictates how air flows and also how condensation & ultimately how ice forms. You have to understand that all these 'small' problems are new in the industry and long term effects are yet to be realized. I'm sure the folks at Boeing never thought their negligence & greed would lead to the criminal proceedings after the two 737-MAX crashes.

    • @Dirk-van-den-Berg
      @Dirk-van-den-Berg 10 месяцев назад +6

      It is only a problem in airlines who have their base in the desert of the Middle East. The freeflowing sand chips off part of the paint.

    • @BeersNBullshit
      @BeersNBullshit 10 месяцев назад +7

      @@magellanmaxthese planes constantly fly in icing conditions, if it were a problem, it would have presented itself and forced an AWD already, not some time in the future

  • @wackaircaftmechanic2312
    @wackaircaftmechanic2312 11 месяцев назад +155

    I love the 787 and honestly I still trust it just fine. I hope Boeing fixes their quality control issues quick.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 11 месяцев назад +5

      they have fixed their quality control issues

    • @wackaircaftmechanic2312
      @wackaircaftmechanic2312 11 месяцев назад

      @@nickolliver3021 We’ll see. Haven’t seen any new Boeings yet but I hope they have.

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@wackaircaftmechanic2312 alot of new boeings are coming out of production without quality issues so I see no problem here

    • @pTrzor
      @pTrzor 10 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@nickolliver3021there's still some issues with the 737 MAX...

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@pTrzor what issues are they that are about the MAX?

  • @philipketchum1407
    @philipketchum1407 11 месяцев назад +16

    It’s composite materials that is the issue. Same with Airbus A-350. The issue will be up to the paint manufacturers to solve not Boeing or Airbus.

    • @magellanmax
      @magellanmax 10 месяцев назад

      That's an issue that will take years to figure out since not many airlines can afford to ground any of their Dreamliners.

    • @AndrewLarson-mq7xc
      @AndrewLarson-mq7xc 10 месяцев назад

      It's boeing problem to solve as well as the paint maker

  • @chaoszombie9995
    @chaoszombie9995 10 месяцев назад +103

    Before the Boeing bashing starts… let me also remind you that this was an issue on the Airbus A350 as well… it’s because composite materials don’t hold on to the paint as well as the metal fuselage that we are used to

    • @ScottRoney
      @ScottRoney 8 месяцев назад +3

      And this is supposed to be some shocking, unknown new problem? Aircraft manufacturers have been using composites since the 1970’s! This is not a new problem

    • @HekateMGO
      @HekateMGO 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@ScottRoneynew paints are kinda garbage as paints though because of environmental regulations. Back in the day the paint contained all kinds of nasty stuff that helped it stay flexible and adhere better, a lot of that isn’t legal to use anymore.

    • @chaoszombie9995
      @chaoszombie9995 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@ScottRoneydid I ever say it was supposed to be a “shocking unknown problem?

    • @nicklasschmltt6959
      @nicklasschmltt6959 6 месяцев назад

      Oh stop. Fly Boeing, take your life in your oun hands

    • @massvibe
      @massvibe 4 месяца назад

      Ok we can agree to disagree on the this plane is perfectly safe to fly comment. I definitely don't hope Boeing gets faa approval for anything. They should have lost every dime for the people they killed by not teaching pilots about there auto pilot failure. All to make a buck and keep it on schedule. Every dime and every personal dime and future dimes of the ones responsible for this. Never fly in one of there planes!!!

  • @nunyabidness117
    @nunyabidness117 11 месяцев назад +190

    I spent years working for an airline and was amazed how often someone who flew once every other year assumed they knew if a plane was airworthy better than an aeronautical engineer with 30 years experience.

    • @MrMoon-pz1lm
      @MrMoon-pz1lm 10 месяцев назад +19

      Finally someone said it, it’s almost like people think their feelings are an indicator of something real.

    • @nunyabidness117
      @nunyabidness117 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@MrMoon-pz1lm Very well put.

    • @johngriffin7412
      @johngriffin7412 9 месяцев назад +3

      Agreed I’m a engineer and worked at GM for 30 then Boeing after for 15 I know how you feel john

    • @richardcranium3579
      @richardcranium3579 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@MrMoon-pz1lmwait wait wait.::……so you’re saying acting on emotions, which we see so much of today, isn’t a good thing?
      Sort of a facts don’t care about your feelings thing?
      Yes! Thank you!

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@richardcranium3579 More like "Feelings does not equal competence or experience."
      But yeah. Pretty similar line of thinking. 👌

  • @dominikorlowski566
    @dominikorlowski566 8 месяцев назад +245

    Loose bolts is also a cosmetic issue.

    • @nexus_plexus
      @nexus_plexus 8 месяцев назад +31

      Exactly. It’s an even smoother look when the bolts are missing because they were never installed.

    • @mendodsoregonbackroads6632
      @mendodsoregonbackroads6632 8 месяцев назад +19

      @@nexus_plexusWell yea, you know sometimes “less is best”. Plus with the bolts missing it saves weight.

    • @Delver639
      @Delver639 7 месяцев назад +3

      You mean a cosmetic feature

    • @EuropeanRailfanAlt
      @EuropeanRailfanAlt 7 месяцев назад +9

      Less parts on a plane = fuel saved = money saved for both the airlines and Boeing = profits!

    • @smw381st
      @smw381st 6 месяцев назад +3

      Yeah my boss has a few loose bolts!

  • @Okoap
    @Okoap 11 месяцев назад +28

    Qatar Airways: You became the very own thing you swore to destroy

  • @vtownhood
    @vtownhood 8 месяцев назад +12

    Boeing is single-handedly proving exactly what's wrong with American manufacturing right before our eyes like this and it's on a repeated basis, which is sad. We used to be a proper country lol.

    • @lollycopter
      @lollycopter 8 месяцев назад +3

      Too much "brain fog" in the industry. I wonder what ever could be causing this....

    • @Niteowlette
      @Niteowlette 5 месяцев назад +1

      We used to have union workers building aircraft. We also used to have nanagement at big corporations who cared more about quality control than their million $$ stock options based on performance.

  • @bobdebouwer7835
    @bobdebouwer7835 11 месяцев назад +17

    When your banger car looks better then a new Boeing 😮

  • @slightlynuts
    @slightlynuts 10 месяцев назад +45

    I flew in a 787 on the way back from Europe in 2014. The experience renewed my faith in the future eventually coming. Peeling paint isn't wonderful, but its hardly a disaster.

  • @nofrackingzone7479
    @nofrackingzone7479 8 месяцев назад +54

    Maybe Boeing should have used duck tape around the cabin doors so they wouldn’t have blown off! Yeah that’s the ticket!!

    • @Messier42-handle
      @Messier42-handle 8 месяцев назад +1

      no idea what you mean, plane doors dont open above 10000ft

    • @odzergaming
      @odzergaming 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@Messier42-handleexcept one Alaskan Airlines plane

    • @paulparoma
      @paulparoma 6 месяцев назад +9

      What is "duck tape"? Is it better than chicken tape?

    • @nofrackingzone7479
      @nofrackingzone7479 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@paulparoma Quack!

    • @nofrackingzone7479
      @nofrackingzone7479 5 месяцев назад +1

      Fun Fact: Duct tape was originally invented by Johnson & Johnson's Permacel division during WWII for the US military. The military specifically needed a waterproof tape that could be used to keep moisture out of ammunition cases.

  • @Ivan-fw9vm
    @Ivan-fw9vm 11 месяцев назад +42

    It is just the paint... no safety issue to passengers, so enjoy your flight! 😀😂

    • @zahkam7322
      @zahkam7322 11 месяцев назад

      its not just the paint , its chunks of the paint layers that's breaking off and cracking exposing the carbon fiber below , the A350 has the same issue

    • @hyderite1
      @hyderite1 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@zahkam7322So just.. use speed tape?

    • @zahkam7322
      @zahkam7322 11 месяцев назад

      @@hyderite1 Yup , i think as soon as they see a crack , they use the tape it seems.

  • @calybhill5231
    @calybhill5231 11 месяцев назад +34

    And the paint on the 787 loses its gloss super fast. They just become dull and matte looking after less than 5 years

  • @Emi_LDA
    @Emi_LDA 11 месяцев назад +55

    Qatar Airways after refusing the A350, losing the A320neo and tons of money to end up with the same problem with the 787 be like: 🗿

    • @LexWinchesterr
      @LexWinchesterr 11 месяцев назад +1

      ikr

    • @mega6076
      @mega6076 11 месяцев назад +2

      A350 doesent have problem

    • @jacksons1010
      @jacksons1010 11 месяцев назад +15

      @@mega6076 A350 absolutely does have an issue with peeling paint, and it’s more extensive than what we see on the 787.

    • @MrSpleenboy
      @MrSpleenboy 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@jacksons1010 The A350 paint is fixed now. Basically they've already done what Boeing are planning to do

    • @volvo_3877
      @volvo_3877 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@mega6076The 350 had the same problem that this does

  • @TerryB751
    @TerryB751 8 месяцев назад +26

    I guess people should be glad the doors don't blow off.

    • @chilovguy
      @chilovguy 5 месяцев назад +1

      The 787 manufacturing process is at least better than their 737 MAX's manufacturing process 🔥

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 3 месяца назад

      The doors on the 777 and 787 are an Airbus design built under license.

    • @christianbaltazar902
      @christianbaltazar902 2 месяца назад

      Stfu with all that nonsense

  • @floridaoutdooradventures8981
    @floridaoutdooradventures8981 10 месяцев назад +7

    Great! I have a non-stop 12 hours flight and the aircraft is B787! I am gonna look at the wings as soon as I get on the fight!!!

    • @afisemenaborevlaka48
      @afisemenaborevlaka48 10 месяцев назад +4

      Just drink a lot of alcohol.

    • @postersm7141
      @postersm7141 10 месяцев назад +3

      I always fly drunk, well, at least when I passenger. When I’m on the flight deck, that’s a different story. Hoping to get up in the airplane soon as a pilot and not a passenger.

    • @afisemenaborevlaka48
      @afisemenaborevlaka48 10 месяцев назад

      Nice ... I also never drink alcohol when I'm on the flight deck. Just recreational drugs. @@postersm7141

  • @kacepro10
    @kacepro10 9 месяцев назад +16

    I’m 13, and I plan to be an airline pilot when I grow up. I am really hoping to fly the 787, I hope it doesn’t retire before I get to fly it!

    • @stevefisher2553
      @stevefisher2553 8 месяцев назад +3

      Get into remote control planes! Teaches you a lot about aerodynamics! Good luck

    • @tommyx777
      @tommyx777 8 месяцев назад +4

      try airbus ,its much better….boeing sucks

    • @EndIessProductions
      @EndIessProductions 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@tommyx777opinions left the chat

    • @avi_perosn3931
      @avi_perosn3931 8 месяцев назад +4

      If it does get retired, better planes are gonna come that you will like more

    • @martinda7446
      @martinda7446 8 месяцев назад

      If you like computer games go Airbus. If you like flying aircraft go Boeing, and they look better.@@tommyx777

  • @hellmixx
    @hellmixx 11 месяцев назад +29

    Boeing: everything is okey its quality duct tape

  • @677dm5
    @677dm5 8 месяцев назад +2

    To be fair, both the 787 and A350 have issues with their skin and paint. They’re both made from carbon fiber which doesn’t hold the paint very well.

  • @justing42
    @justing42 10 месяцев назад +5

    those are called static ports. And as a 30 plus year airline mechanic, we use speed tape all of the time. MEL or CDL allows it.

  • @scotttild
    @scotttild 8 месяцев назад +2

    Airbus had the same issue with paint but no one mentions that.

  • @tech9803
    @tech9803 10 месяцев назад +5

    I was on an ANA 787 last weekend, lots of tape on the wings.

  • @JohnAppleseed.
    @JohnAppleseed. 8 месяцев назад +2

    Nope, fuck them. They got complacent and now they’re paying the price. Deal with it but trust in Boeing - gone!

  • @Vventure23
    @Vventure23 6 месяцев назад +15

    “The 787 is totally safe”
    50 passengers in Australia today: “yeah about that”

    • @mx1593
      @mx1593 4 месяца назад +2

      The 787 has a perfect safety record.

    • @arandomperson920
      @arandomperson920 Месяц назад +2

      As an Australian, what airline and what flight?

  • @ama6487
    @ama6487 11 месяцев назад +5

    If there is no issue why do they need to tape it?

  • @chubbywombat7402
    @chubbywombat7402 10 месяцев назад +6

    My takeaway from this video? Boeing has a *massive* problem.

  • @YamiPheonix531
    @YamiPheonix531 11 месяцев назад +14

    AeroPeru Flight 603 crashed killing 70 people because sticky tape covered the outside ports for the airspeed and altitude sensors. That’s why sticky tape on planes has eerie signs the plane is in bad shape for passengers.

    • @Kuricang31
      @Kuricang31 11 месяцев назад +3

      Can't believe that one accident alone successfully causes fear among passengers when 1,000+ planes that flew around the world right now had some sort of speed tape in their fuselage body

    • @Stickbugshane
      @Stickbugshane 11 месяцев назад

      Wait wait that’s on whoever’s dumb idea it was to put tape over the pedos

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 11 месяцев назад +2

      There are no sensors on top of the wing.

    • @YamiPheonix531
      @YamiPheonix531 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@WALTERBROADDUS I know. But vast majority of airplane passengers are not airplane enthusiasts or technicians so they don’t know that. Seeing speed tape on an airplane gives off the same vibes as seeing duct tape on a car. Just a quick fix or patch work to cover a more serious underlying problem.
      I’ve flown on a Boeing that had speed tape patches on the wing and it did not matter how many times I told my neighbouring seat mate that no flight control sensors were being covered by that speed tape on the wing and that the airplane was safe to fly…her fear made her reject my statements and she was a nervous wreck the whole flight.

    • @WALTERBROADDUS
      @WALTERBROADDUS 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@YamiPheonix531 I think it's poor manufacturing quality control on the part of Boeing to be turning out products like this. You solve the problem before planes go out the door....

  • @explorelondon3695
    @explorelondon3695 8 месяцев назад +2

    It's not just tape but gaffer tape😂. We are still learning about composite construction in commercial aviation so I wouldn't lose sleep over the 787/350 paint issues...

  • @mikeoglen6848
    @mikeoglen6848 10 месяцев назад +3

    Let me tell you, I ain't gettin on no Plane that's stuck together with Duct Tape!

    • @justing42
      @justing42 10 месяцев назад +1

      good...because they aren't....ever

  • @BoeingvsAirbus1578
    @BoeingvsAirbus1578 7 месяцев назад +1

    Anti corrosive paint on a composite 787 wing lol. The issue is the primer used, made by PPG, did not bond well with the composite surface. The issue is exacerbated by the fact that the 787 wing flexes more than most aircraft. This causes compression on the upper surface and paint flexes and disbonds. New compounds are being made and applied, in the meantime before repaints, regular inspections are done and aluminium speed tape is applied via approved SRM methods. The tape is purely there to protect the carbon from UV damage.

  • @Calebs_Aviation
    @Calebs_Aviation 11 месяцев назад +3

    WOW! That’s not good! Peeling paint or surface degradation that early on especially in a new and modern design like the 787 is pretty bad! 😮😮
    I hope for the sake of the Dreamliner that Boeing gets that FAA APPROVAL very soon! 😅

  • @gregswank4912
    @gregswank4912 8 месяцев назад +1

    In my company meeting last week our division leader was still admiring Boeing during his pep talk. It figures since our quality went to shit ever since he took over.

  • @Mimi_L.
    @Mimi_L. 11 месяцев назад +5

    Karma. The company that murdered hundreds of souls in the name of corporate greed.

  • @bobbygetsbanned6049
    @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 месяцев назад +2

    I'm much more worried about all the 787's flying around with metal shavings in interior compartments slowing cutting their way through all the wiring...

    • @ross9581
      @ross9581 6 месяцев назад

      Gee, you are scaring me dude..
      Sometimes I can’t avoid flying on a 787 although I prefer to fly on 777 with all tyres or not!!! if 350 or 380 not avail on my trans-pacific routes.

  • @MrMoccachinoo
    @MrMoccachinoo 11 месяцев назад +25

    Boeing 737: problems
    Boeing 787: problems
    Boeing 777: delayed / problems
    This company won’t be there anymore in 20 years

    • @mrqutaifany6607
      @mrqutaifany6607 11 месяцев назад +1

      I agree with U.

    • @fib4232
      @fib4232 11 месяцев назад +12

      Not at all, Boeing and Airbus still have about the same market value at this current moment if I'm correct, it's possible that Boeing will soon LOSE to airbus, but I garruntee Boeing will still exist and operate till teleportation is invented, which will be no time soon.

    • @shyone8386
      @shyone8386 11 месяцев назад +6

      The US government would never let that happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the USAF would be useless

    • @benchoflemons398
      @benchoflemons398 11 месяцев назад +8

      The United States will give them enough corporate welfare to survive 100%.
      In the same way that Europe does with… Basically every company in Europe

    • @allthat46
      @allthat46 11 месяцев назад

      KC46 problems

  • @user-kb8gh5jv9t
    @user-kb8gh5jv9t 10 месяцев назад +2

    It’s just another layer of paint! CF doesn’t ‘rust’ so it’s not an “anti-corrosive” paint layer at all. CF does deteriorate due to Water intrusion which, if unchecked, will delaminate the layers and strip it of any load bearing capability and hence, to prevent that, another layer of paint is needed to combat this issue…

  • @scoobadooba97
    @scoobadooba97 11 месяцев назад +5

    If it's Boeing, I ain't going

  • @RenoBanditofromTexarito
    @RenoBanditofromTexarito 9 месяцев назад +2

    It actually isn't all that safe. Safe in a sense there isn't any effect on the planes "immediate" integrity.
    However, when the paint peels it exposes the wings epoxy layer to UV light, extreme & frequent temperature changes, along with moisture. Those are things epoxy doesn't like, especially over time.

  • @valenting6157
    @valenting6157 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Boeing 787 Has a MASSIVE Problem" yeah like every modern Boeing

    • @tonyhaynes1505
      @tonyhaynes1505 11 месяцев назад

      1800 sold, the most efficient widebody flying. I think ur very ignorant

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 11 месяцев назад

      and every modern Airbus so what's the point

    • @valenting6157
      @valenting6157 11 месяцев назад

      @@nickolliver3021 😂😂😂😂😂😂Name some major that have Airbus ?

    • @nickolliver3021
      @nickolliver3021 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@valenting6157 so you can't even name them lol that explains why 😄😄😄

    • @valenting6157
      @valenting6157 11 месяцев назад

      @@nickolliver3021 wtf are you on ? I ask you to name what problem they have and you can't even name them lmao AND THEN YOU PUT THE BLAME ON ME 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Juan-ll6sf
    @Juan-ll6sf 6 месяцев назад +1

    Tape on a wing means a flying lemon 🍋. And lemons go to the ground for repair. No paint excuses. Replace the whole wings or send those flying lemons to the scrap yard. I pass on saving gas because I rather save my.....life. 😮

  • @harkmi3
    @harkmi3 8 месяцев назад +1

    Boeing has a few more reputational problems than just a bit of tape on the 787. Raise your hand if you plan on fly8ng the 737 Max9 anytime soon?

  • @jamesogden7756
    @jamesogden7756 11 месяцев назад +2

    Damnit, nobody is explaining why the chemical bonds between carbon fiber and these paint jobs is failing.
    "Its just the paint." Okay... why IS it coming off?

    • @Kylem6875
      @Kylem6875 11 месяцев назад +2

      Paint degradation seems to be extremely common with these aircraft, TUI UK's original 787-8's delivered over 10 years ago now (how time flies! Pun intended I guess) are absolutely hideous looking. The blue is all washed looking and you can clearly see the repaint where the Thomson branding was patched over.

  • @TinHatRanch
    @TinHatRanch 8 месяцев назад

    What is Boeing doing about their shoddy reputation? They’re forgetting to install bolts!!

  • @soilentgreen7
    @soilentgreen7 10 месяцев назад +1

    I tried explaing this to airbus haters who brought up Qatar A350's, I'm glad you've made this video

  • @margokammeraad9177
    @margokammeraad9177 7 месяцев назад +1

    I noticed this tape all over the wing of the 787 when I was flying home in a 10 hour flight back home...

  • @reytang1663
    @reytang1663 11 месяцев назад +1

    Like someone mentioned, A350 has even worse painting. Check Qatar and 350 before World Cup. Just very interesting, this RUclipsr change style after he become full time RUclipsr and after he visited Airbus in Europe. That’s funny

    • @miks564
      @miks564 11 месяцев назад

      There might be a valid reasoning behind a possible change of heart from the youtuber.
      The 787 is the only really good product Boeing offers to compete with Airbus. ...and hopefully the 777x will be as well when they finally get it done.

  • @EnVec0
    @EnVec0 5 месяцев назад +1

    Westjet wont let me pay to change to a non Max 8 plane. Im really upset that i have to pay for a new flight to fly on a safer plane.

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx 10 месяцев назад +1

    I sure miss the luminum skinned jets of the past..lm not sure about duct tape on a birdy. 😬😬😬

  • @757fanwhateversaw
    @757fanwhateversaw 7 месяцев назад +1

    4simmers:
    We must make a new livery pack

  • @Wilson632
    @Wilson632 7 месяцев назад +1

    No shame in Boeing's game. just break out the duct tape.there just like new.

  • @CRINGE_EDITS_
    @CRINGE_EDITS_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    The 787 is such a good plane but its just those old accidents that have put a dent in the trust of passengers for boeing.Airbus has the same problem and even worse, but still the passengers are not afraid of it as it is fried into their brain that airbus planes are safe. Hope this paint issue gets fixed asap.

  • @mikemorrismorris7291
    @mikemorrismorris7291 2 месяца назад +1

    We used to use speed tape in the air force b52 all the time for a quick fix.

  • @jedsgamezone
    @jedsgamezone 6 месяцев назад +1

    If there's a dreamliner, there must be a nightmareliner.

  • @N1WP
    @N1WP 22 часа назад

    Who is going to pay for the repaint of the aircraft? BA or the Airline?

  • @AndrewPalmerJazz
    @AndrewPalmerJazz 8 месяцев назад +1

    Why doesn't Boeing work on making their planes safe instead? Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that would do more for their reputation than giving their planes a paint job.

  • @dankelley6194
    @dankelley6194 4 месяца назад +1

    First and last time I will waste time on a posting by Coby!

  • @KingofInterns
    @KingofInterns 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not a perception it is reality that their planes are shoddily built

  • @bendenisereedy7865
    @bendenisereedy7865 10 месяцев назад +1

    My very early carbon road bike, made by Specialized, developed witness cracks in places where the frame flexed. It looked alarming and lots of people discarded their frames but it was only the consequence of putting thick hard paint on a flexy material. Carbon frames have thinner paint and smoother lug areas nowadays.

  • @trevorgwelch7412
    @trevorgwelch7412 4 месяца назад +1

    Hope they are using Gorilla brand tape .

  • @stevematthews684
    @stevematthews684 10 месяцев назад +1

    "FAA causes more and more delays and costs in aircraft design and manufacturing" There, I fixed your irresponsible title.

  • @hassanmuhammad3258
    @hassanmuhammad3258 11 месяцев назад +2

    I like the a350 better

  • @spacecadet35
    @spacecadet35 5 месяцев назад

    What has Boeing done to earn back public trust? Lied, tried to cover up their mistakes, fired safety staff, possibly killed a whistle blower. How does this help?

  • @jumboJetPilot
    @jumboJetPilot 10 месяцев назад

    My company has an exclusive contract with Boeing. We fly Boeing 787 tails, wings, and fuselages from Italy and Japan to America for final assembly. Early on we flew a pair of wings from the Italian plant to their Charleston, SC plant. Upon arrival, the Charleston plant figured out that the wing fittings were a few inches out of position. Apparently the Italian plant didn’t receive this design change before they manufactured a set and sent them to America. These are carbon fiber wings - you can’t just move the wing fittings. They were a complete architectural loss. You’re having serious production problems if you can’t even maintain basic communications between your various plants. Better yet, make them all in one place instead of piecemeal parts assembly the way it used to be. Easier to maintain quality control that way.

  • @CrimsonXYR
    @CrimsonXYR 8 месяцев назад

    Bro made a vid saying other pple are saying the 787 sucks and is gonna crash and that his video is telling the truth yet the TITLE “The Boeing 787 has a massive problem” AND STARTS THE VIDEO WITH THE TAPE 💀

  • @bmstyle
    @bmstyle 10 месяцев назад

    this is a "MASSIVEEE PROBLEMMM"?? dude, make videos that are informative instead of click baiting for views.

  • @GRAHAMAUS
    @GRAHAMAUS 10 месяцев назад

    Solution: a range of coloured speed tapes that match the paint everywhere. $1M for that idea Boeing, you're welcome.

  • @jameswoffinden9215
    @jameswoffinden9215 10 месяцев назад +1

    I worked on aircraft for four years, and never used speed tape. Using that stuff seems so weird to me.

  • @waynemasters
    @waynemasters 10 месяцев назад

    Boeing started outsourcing to cheap foreign labour. This was bound to happen, not sure why everyone is so "oh my gosh, how did this happen"... Boeing should solely be built in The States or Canada.

  • @Mike.The.Jeweler
    @Mike.The.Jeweler 8 месяцев назад +2

    This aged like milk

  • @Brick-Life
    @Brick-Life 8 месяцев назад

    I flew the China Southern B787 from Melbourne to Guangzhou and back despite it meant to be the A350 according to booking documents

  • @Nabz_AV
    @Nabz_AV 2 месяца назад

    Bro why at first glance at 787 landing or taking off, first glance it does not look like it even has tail like it’s camouflaged into the runway💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣

  • @Aviation_of_Houston
    @Aviation_of_Houston 7 месяцев назад

    Bro BOEING IS ALWAYS IN TROUBLE FOR NO REASON!!! I want Boeing Troubles to Stop now

  • @Crewger16
    @Crewger16 10 месяцев назад +1

    It looks kinda cool tho not gonna lie

  • @b0mazor
    @b0mazor 6 месяцев назад +1

    what has boeing done to win back our trust?

  • @bgold2007
    @bgold2007 8 месяцев назад +1

    Gosh but the blue RR livery looks great.

  • @tukangiseng
    @tukangiseng 6 месяцев назад

    Graphic designer here, They need the tape to say "Attention!" in large, red, impactful typeface.

  • @djibicisse
    @djibicisse 6 месяцев назад +1

    Doesn’t Airbus have the same problem

    • @Gizz101
      @Gizz101 5 месяцев назад

      Yea people never talk about it as they want to shit on Boeing

  • @bobby1970
    @bobby1970 10 месяцев назад

    I like non composite mostly aluminum planes better, such as the 777. Well, I know they still have some composites, but no where close as much as the 787.

  • @sailaab
    @sailaab 9 месяцев назад

    Eventually new Boeing widebodies would have no paint. Instead they would only use tape in the entirety of the external part of the Hull, tail, wings

  • @yogibbear
    @yogibbear 8 месяцев назад +1

    "massive". Nah they have other problems.

  • @mikalnaylor
    @mikalnaylor 11 месяцев назад +1

    Would hello kitty speed tape allay their fears? Ill go get some. :D lol!!

  • @nathanhardin8530
    @nathanhardin8530 Месяц назад

    Why would a new anticorrosive layer paint fix this issue? The wings are carbon fiber. Carbon fiber doesn't corrode. I have worked in aviation coatings for 17 years, and i just would like to know what the commentaor is talking about.

  • @americanzombie1802
    @americanzombie1802 8 месяцев назад

    We did have mixed cliques in the IE mostly created in the mid 2000’s. Dudes from
    Different LA sets coming together to make one clique which most ended up becoming their own sets once homegrown members got recruited. However I’m not sure if any of them have a blood Crip mix. I know alot of them now claim Crip like Hustler squad in Rialto.
    But now all that has died out. This generation is back to traditional banging, no more claiming two things. Back in the mid 2000’s those dudes were claiming their hood and their new cliques at the same time. Shit got real confusing

  • @michaelgreen776
    @michaelgreen776 4 месяца назад

    As a former employee of Boeing and Spirit Aerosystems, UNQUALIFIED people (without proper credentials) have been promoted (at all levels) across both companies due to Diversity, Equality and Inclusion.

  • @tomk8729
    @tomk8729 10 месяцев назад

    British Airways 'Dreamliner' (what a misnomer) I took to Japan recently was frankly the worst long haul aeroplane I've been on in 40 years of flying. Awful - cheap and nasty plastics everywhere, horrible seats, cramped cabin, not enough toilets, noisy and flimsy internally. Never again. It's Airbus for me from now on. Bring back the 747!

  • @MrDaiseymay
    @MrDaiseymay 4 месяца назад

    must try much harder, and try and prevent ''whistle blower's from, ahem, 'commiting suicide.'

  • @williamtell5365
    @williamtell5365 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice Airbus promo. Pays well?

  • @JS-gt5bh
    @JS-gt5bh 5 месяцев назад

    😂If I was you I would be more concerned with driving your car to the airport safely than getting on any aircraft! Why do you trust anything you hear on TV, radio, newspaper? Journalists know everything? They do NOT! Do not be misled!🤣

  • @christopherhennessey8991
    @christopherhennessey8991 21 день назад

    The problem was when the companies merged ,and McDonnell-Douglas obtained control of the board, rather the Boeing engineers. It was then being run by MBA’s and bean counters instead of actual engineers.

  • @stevewenners
    @stevewenners 8 месяцев назад

    ALL PLANES DO THE SAME THING
    It's not a "problem".
    It's a reality in physics that flexing panels lead to micro gaps (leaking) and that tape is an effective temporary solution.

  • @knightlypopeye
    @knightlypopeye 10 месяцев назад

    Don’t just say Boeing has this issue. The A-350 had this problem as well. And had orders cancelled. I’ve not heard about any Boeing aircraft orders being cancelled. So don’t just put this on Boeing. If your gonna to this then make sure you bring the whole truth.

  • @chooch1995
    @chooch1995 10 месяцев назад

    Time to bring back good old fashioned, time tested aluminum skin!!! The public isn’t going to accept much more speed tape & neither should the airlines!! Yes, that’d curtail the ‘87’s signature wing curvature & might sacrifice some fuel savings….but this looks laughable!

  • @fuuswag9835
    @fuuswag9835 8 месяцев назад

    I know ALOT about this our fleet has a very big problem with this, which i’ve become the expert in my area for. So what is happening is boeing plhave been painting too thin of a coat on (to save weight) and the UV is travelling through and eating at the epoxy under the paint on the top layer of carbon fiber, and this is what is disbonding the paint.
    Boeing tell us to speed tape the damage as temp repair and as a permanent repair, you wipe you the exposed area 7-14 times with IPA, if it leaves brown residue on the rag after the 14th wipe then the epoxy has become compromised. So a flood coat of epoxy is needed, and then epoxy primer and paint. But alot of our planes have returned to boeing as this is warranty work