The Real Reason Every Airline Wants Airbus A350 Over Boeing
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- Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024
- Why are so many airlines suddenly flocking to the Airbus A350 over Boeing? It's surprising, especially considering that no one, not even Airbus, expected the A350 to become such a hit. Initially, the A350 program was a letdown, with numerous airlines turning their backs on it. But something changed along the way. So, what exactly makes the A350 so appealing that everyone wants it now?
A number of passengers are avoiding Boeing aircraft.
You got a point, even if i dont know how filled planes need to be to generate a profit, it is possible boeing's reputation may lower their plane's profitability.
For those who answers, I am no aviation expert so tell me if im wrong and why.
@@Anonymous-Frenchman As far as i am concerned you are right. Since the 737 MAX disaster and seeing how greedy Boeing has become and how unstable their work enviromant is i avoid Boeing completly. Since the 737 MAX problem i have never took a Boeing plane and i do not plan of flying on one ever again
Jeje defently me, I'm not risking my life to fly 35.000 ft in the air from a company that prefers to be in a good economic position than the safety of lots of people, they're shameless
If it’s Boeing I ain’t going.
@@jerrypolverino6025 Not me. Whatever it is, preferably Boeing I'm taking it. Incidentally, the B787 is the safest plane there is... Yes!
Always a Boeing fan-go to hell Calhoun et al! :-(((
Boeings falling out of the sky and having it's doors fall off should also be considered a factor.
no boeings have fell out of the sky since 2020
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z that’s not the flex you think it is.
That’s 737 though, 777 competes with 350s
@@jimbojimbo6873 it’s not just the 737. There was the complete disaster of the Dreamliner, too. The brand is bad is my point. Quality control at Boeing is a joke right now. Customers are specifically changing flights to avoid being on a Boeing plane. So, to the title of the video’s point, there are numerous reasons airlines are avoiding Boeing right now.
I sat on max 8 just 1 month after the incident.
Here is what happened. Boeing used to build airplanes to best meet airline customer requirements. Then, like McDonnell/Diuglas (McD) before the merger, Boeing started telling the airlines what they should want, a cheaper less innovative and more compromised design that was easier and cheaper to manufacture. The 787 was the last clean sheet design Boeing would invest in. Soon, the airlines would decide that like McDonald’s, Boeing was done with innovating new designs. In contrast, Airbus evolved beyond a low cost design and purposely upgraded the A350 to create a much better airplane than the 787 that better meets customer needs and wants. It is a future-proof design that makes it relevant for the longer term. While Boeing has decided that building its future on the cheap is more profitable in the short term. Which is less risky for its Wall Street investors. This strategy failed miserably for McD just as it is failing Boeing today.
That’s pretty good explanation, do you think Boeing will produce a new clean sheet design in near future?
That's true for soooo many American companies. And the disease has spread to Europe, with signs still to be noticed. Wall Street does not fuel the economy. It's an always hungrier parasite
@@wesellanybiz Boeing itself has stated that no new aircraft from them is in the offing.
Absolute clueless waffle you’re talking. The airlines tell the manufacturer what they want as a product! And the 787 is horse shit
@@wesellanybiz not with this management that is focused on quarterly profits
instead of focusing on a 2 year cycle, they are only focused on a quarter
this limits the resources and time required not only for the development of the new plane, but also for the repair of the 737MAX series
And as corporate America is obsessed with "quarterly profits" there is no chance that Boeing will get out of the crisis anytime soon
proud to be flying this beast. what an amazing bird
Sick!
The experience Airbus gained with the A380 in terms of advanced materials will surely have contributed to the smooth entry of the new A350 models.
It did, it completely revolutionised the use of composites. The A380 also had some important lessons which resulted in certain materials not being used on the A350.
even the a300 used compsites.remember airbus is very bad at composites,they managed to take a tail off a a300!
What a plane! It's now almost everybody's favourite
not myn.boeing power!
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Just shut up, it your opinion not ours
My brother-in-law was involved in designing parts of this aircraft. What a nice plane.
They did an Amazing job
The inital A350 turned out to be the A330NEO which is not a bad seller itself, Airbus got two aircraft out of this development.
And A330 is an attractive option for those who want a cheap and reliable plane for medium to short haul routes while being capable of flying long haul.
a330neo worst plane after a340.
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Airbus should just build an A340neo and make it a twinjet. Give it more powerful engines and they might be able to build that twinjet version of A340neo.
@@ro-86alkonost78 The A330 is exactly a twin engine 340. It even have the mounts and piping in its wings to fit the third and fourth engines ! This also made it a very good base aircraft for the air-forces tankers, since you could plug the refueling stuff to an existing feature, already present even on cheap second hand passenger air-frames, no structural modification to be made for conversion ( not for that specific refueling pods topic. Other aspects of militarization do need a return to factory for mods, but not to the wings)
KLM is gonna get 50 of them
The updated A 350 was a catchup with the 787. And most of the benefits you mention already existed with the 787. And Boeing was planning the 777X to catchup with the size and range deficits. But, Boeing has lost their way in engineering partly due to sloppiness with the Max. So, Boeing is falling behind Airbus and Airbus is filling the gaps left in the market. If Boeing does not speed up their development and reliability, they will disappear in the commercial airline business. That will leave the market for Airbus, and whatever Chinese competitors can come along.
script was most probabaly written by an ai.
I’ll take 2 of them.
BOGO (French accent)
Thank you sir richard banson kkkkkk
I love the A350. I’ve travelled on this aircraft many times. Simple joy. Very passenger friendly.
The a350 is popular because there is no competition in the segment. Boeings 777x is constantly being delayed and the 787 is too small in comparison.
Boing is going down faster than Titanic
well they crash less than cars...
@@MrBernt1968 Yeah right: the Titanic sank in about 2 hours and as far as I know (duh) Boeing is still going despite the free lunch at McDonalds strike.
Its the XWB engine that makes the real difference. Best fuel efficiency in the world and only available on the A350. Nothing else is close - not even the Trent 1000.
What you dream onboard a B787 Dreamliner is to be onboard an A350 instead - which is quieter, more spacious, has wider seats, more overhead storage space and less likelihood of some bits falling off
The 350 is the same width as the 777 not the 787 the 787 is roughly the same width as the 330 and don't fly Air Canada's 777 they have it set up for over 400 seats very tight
And yet most of the time the A350 has a 3-3-3 layout, as has the 787. This gives the A350 far more comfortable width. The A330 has a very comfortable 2-4-2 layout, whilst having the same width as the 787.
So far, Airbus is superior when it comes to passenger comfort. I will choose both Airbus types over de 787/777 any day.
@@Victor-oz3zo AIRLINES CHOOSE SEAT LAAYOUT,I HAVE BEEN IN 333 777s.I WILL CHOOSE BOEING OVER AIRBUS.WORST FLIGHT OF MY LIFE WAS ON A A330!!!!
@@Victor-oz3zo and now spirit and frontier are luxury!
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z They do, but most airlines seem to stick to Airbus’s original recommendation for seats per row. Not so for 787 or 777.
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z My ears........
I take 8 flights every month for work all 2 hr or less Domestic flights and I only book with operators who only operate Airbus fleets.
even though boeing crashes less than cars?
Thanks, we need more foreigners like you. Why dont you work in India?
@@billfraser9731 ???? Who told you I work outside India ? I work in India. 😂🤣 avg racist with presumptions
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z in that case I don’t have a choice than buying a safe car and driving safely. But here I have a choice so I take precautions. Everything with Boeing is going down bad why 777x is grounded ?
I flew Air Chinas A350-900 for the first time from Milan to Shanghai. Its the best airplane ever. I have flown with so many types such as Boeing ,Airbus and fokker and Mc Donell Douglas. I will try to avoid Boeing from now.
That formation flying shot was so cool!
The A350 program is going from strength to strength whilst Boeing seems to be on a slippery downward slope,customers are skeptical of boeing right now,as it has been well documented regarding their financial and quality issues.add into the fact that certain aircraft in their protfolio are being pushed back to later delivery...and thats where Airbus take up the slack.
The main contributor for sure is its fuel efficiency. Especially after the russian attack on the Ukraine including the related fuel price increase, fuel efficiency overrules everything in modern aviation. Plus, the delays of the 777X program creates additional turnover for Airbus.
QANTAS had already moved away from Boeing starting several years before 2022 when the B747 and the B767 were taken out of service. Already had A380 and A330 for the main fleet. Only left with B373 and B787. The B737 are getting old and need replacement, but difficult to get sufficient A321 to solve the problem.
The B717 has been replaced by the A220.
Jetstar which is the low cost arm is mainly a A320 operation. Now using some A321 and B787 models.
But Boeing airplanes are very safe and reliable. The proof of that is Boeing says so.
😂
@@wadehiggins1114 🤡
@@wadehiggins1114has a boeing crashed since 2020
Yes. As long as you bring some duck tape along.
Philippine Airlines ordered i think 10 A350-1000 aircraft!
I can’t wait to get to fly on one. They look so beautiful and sleek.
0:31 MY HEART DROPPED FOR A SECOND LOL
I THOUGHT IT WAS REAL
The Boeing 777X looks to be an very impressive and larger aircraft than the Airbus 350. I flew with the 350 recently, but I must admit that I like the Boeing 787-9 better,
7:13 my country Airline 💙
If there is a GENx engine option on the A350 - it would be a big seller
Rolls Royce engines only.
Boeing contributed in research and development finance for the GE 90 engine in exchange of a binding contract that GE 90 engine and all its derivatives will be exclusively be for Boeing planes. And Boeing & Mcdonald Douglas CEOs had been previous GE CEOs too.
@@ricky1231 So there.....
The video nowhere explains why A350 was selling more than the Dreamliners…both have comparable range and fuel efficiency 😮
Range: A350 8,700 NM vs. B787 6,330 NM and since Russia's war many routes became much longer , all need to fly around both Ukraine and Russia.
That's because the A350 is NOT out selling the AWESOME DREAMLINER. Look at sales and orders and thou will see for thy self. 😊 Duh!
@@pentametero Apart from the fact that the Dreamliner is a lot less fuel efficient. Dreamliner sold well UNTIL the A350 came along.
@@grahamo22 A LOT less fuel efficient? What do you draw your conclusions from? Definitive statistics?
@@nick066hu I did some checking with ai and you know what: the 787 is mile per mile more efficient even though the A350 does have a greater range....
It's much easier for any airline to order an aircraft that's already flying and has a proven track record. Many of the initial problems with the aircraft are flushed out in the first 5 years. And who knows when the 777-9 would be available. The 787 had too many design and production issues with both the aircraft and engines, and it cost the launch customer ANA a lot of money as planes needed to be frequently grounded, inspected, and components replaced. But if Boeing already had a 777-300ER NEO version available, I suspect many airlines would've simply replaced their aging 777s with modernized/updated ones. Instead many chose A350 even though it has only RR engines because it's available. There is really no negotiating with replacement time-line, so they simply couldn't wait for or gamble with the next gen 777.
The only criteria I remember for international flights are, either Boeing or Airbus, wither medium, large or very large. That is it, no model names, no numbers.
So what have happened to Cathay now?
I found my self coming back to your channel so I decided to subscribe keep the good work
Hey, Thanks man!
The 737?
0:30 Whoa! That might just be a bit too close to home! 😅
why is there no news on the a350 rolls royce engines ?
Because the delay of 777x. Frankly, A350 fuseledges are made by Spirit Inc., the body work company of Boeing in the US. So, it is really the US tech, same as 787 body work, but wider. Without US let go for the Airbus, it cannot build 350 with in Europe tech factory.
I would say something disparaging about Boeing but I have a healthy fear of "accidents"!!!😱
I wont fly on the MAX. Maybe its "safe" now but the safety oversights are unforgivable.
Qantas has a large order for the A350s but it also has Boeing 787s on order in smaller numbers. Not a complete turning away from Boeing.
Airbus is doing something right. I recently flew an A321 NEO, and the thing is so quiet that I didn’t even have to use noise canceling headphones.
This is Airbus video marketing, without the French accent. The 787 shares many of the mentioned design features. Yet I think Boeing is dying. So damn sad.
I could not AGREE MORE WITH YOU SIR! GO BOEING! GO 787 ALL THE WAY. 🎉
Boeing has a new CEO who is an engineer not a bum MBA like Calhoun. As senator Hawley said that the only problem with Boeing is you (Calhoun) and your C Suite buddies.
@@pentametero Irrational: your comment is somehow huge good news to me. Cheers, so welcome to hear. Cheers sir. 🫡
I’m an A350 fan but I’m pretty sure the Boeing 787 has outsold A350. I’m really curious why this is, despite all the hype for the A350
The 787 was a revolutionary design and come to market in 2009 compared to A350 in 2015.
More importantly when Boeing proposed and started designing the 7E7 program in 2003 , Airbus was slow in counter proposing a competitor of similar quality & only came up with the A350 after the A330 neo had been rejected by customers. By then the 787 order book was already overflowing.
I have been on both planes several times long haul. I prefer the A350 myself.
@@ricky1231 oh I see, do you think if they came back out at similar times; Airbus would have outsold 787. I’m curious as I still see loads of airlines use 787 compared to A350
@@ricky1231 the reason why Airbus was slow in counter-proposing a competitor to 787 is because of their mistake. That mistake is focusing on the A380 when the 787 was also being built or conceptualized with Airbus thinking that the A380 is their game changer which turned out to be the exact opposite as it struggled to survive.
The A350 is comparable to the B777, not the B787 in capacity etc.
@@ricky1231 tbh I've flown on them both with Qatar Airways and the 787 was quite better than A350-900 in my opinion.
A350 900 and 1000 are superior to 787 8 and 9 variants in NVH. 787 is obviously better than older planes like 340, 747 and 777 but falls behind the 350 in cabin comfort.
The door windows with the fresnel lens are ridiculous. Boeing's windows are normal size and at least you can see something from them.
1:16 DAL is rather the only A350 operator in America.
Because it doesnt fall apart in the middle of the flight.
Funny, Boeing has sold 1,142 of the 787, while Airbus has only sold 618 of the A350.
And doesn't the A350 have problem with paint coming off the fuselage in large pieces in 2021, to the point they grounded their fleet of aircraft? In fact, Finnair, Cathay Pacific, Etihad, Lufthansa and Air France had also complained of paint damage as early as 2016.
This may be one of the most biased pieces I have ever read on RUclips. Shame.
flew on this and got it was so much better than other flights i have had
Worst trans-atlantic flight I have ever endured. Super tight seat spacing for Lufthansa, never again!
Boeing tried doing things on the cheap and by doing so ruined its reputation. When flying at 35,000 feet people and airlines aren't taking any chances.
i will.safer than cars!
NOT EVERY AIRLINE IS GOING FOR IT! AMERICAN JUST CANCELED THEIR A350 ORDER AND AC MIGHT BE QUITE UNLIKELY TO ORDER IT AND ETC
I'm interested to see how United will do with the A350
They wouldn’t have ordered it without doing their homework first. They know exactly what route it’s going to service.
@@jeremypearson6852 Yeah that makes a lot of sense actually. Thanks!
Well, they probably won’t, the deliveries of the 350 is pushed back to 2030, and further deferred for multiple times and I believe they will end up cancelling it and go for the 777x
@@leebenjamin5790 That's true. I think it is still possible that they take them because of United's success with the A321neo.
With the production of A350 previous A 330 version finished now nobody want to use A330 only if its so cheap people use it, its out of Age - old and primitive version very early
The real reason every airline wants AIRBUS A350 over BOEING ? Just like Garuda Indonesia, I wanted to Indonesian flag carrier/Indonesia's National Airlines choose on AIRBUS A350 over it's BOEING 777 for the future of longest haul flight route including European route, African route and South/North American route if it is can.
777 IS WAY BETTER THAN A EGGSHELL
No, let me tell you the real reason.
So the story starts with the concord supersonic jet, who remembers those? They started crashing and falling apart because of the rivets that held them together, with prolonged flight time the rivets slowly shook apart and the airplanes fell apart.
Guess what cheepo Boeing did with some of their airplanes and why parts started falling off?
That's why no one wants them, they are a liability.
Airbus backlog is crazy
Luckily, it didn’t become the ‘Edsel’ of the airline industry.
It works.
I will hate Boeing if they cancel the 777
Much better layout compared to the 787
airlines decide.the 787 is just unlucky enough to be the cattle class plane for flag carriers.
Safety.
the introduction is false Boeing was always bigger than Airbus due to longevity and experience a350 introduction was a worthy competition after the controversy it switched the tide to Airbus
the script on this is bad. the 787 does almost the same thing, so why did airlines chose the a350 it does not explian it clearly, was this written by an ai?
Fly enough 350 business! Next
First comment! Also dude I was your 16th subscriber! I love your vids! Way on the way to 10K
Damn, 16th thats early! Thanks man!
@@Aviaat1I’ll make sure to remind you again when you pass 100K subs
Gulf Air,Saudia and Oman Air:🗿
So many butt-hurt Airbus fanboys, always gives me a giggle.
Even Emirates taking them.
How do you compare in size particularly length of A350 and 777-300ER?so now you know who is genius?
It’s a fantastic aircraft in every way and by the most beautiful flying. All it needs now is a NEO option and a stretch one to match 777X.
"NEO" - New Engine Option. Doesn't need one. Existing engines are proven and economical
Stretch for 777X ? Doesn't need one.
The maximum capacity for the 350-900 is 440 and for 350-1000 is 480
The maximum capacity for the 777X-8 is 384 and for the 777X-9 is 426
Compare BMW to FORD and AIRBUS to BOEING and you understand why Airbus is a success. Quality/safety at its best.
yeah,airbus had such a good rudder design on the a300 600!weak compositing=rudder breaks off=bad situation.
I myself avoid Boeing everytime I fly
i fly.safer than cars
Skip to 5:26
Honestly like how the 777-300ER was the right aircraft for the 2010s, the A350 came at the right time for airlines looking to replace their 777-300ERs which are now over 20 years old for some airlines.
boeing dosent really have twin engine wide body long hual big capacity plane that can fill the shoes of a380 and 747 gap.
Best plane A350
A350 is the best
I think that you are in Airbus Payroll......I've seen the 787 outsell your pitch by a longshot....
When did the nightmareliner enter service, dufus?
It's not about favoritism. The 787 has been on the market longer. You can't "out sell" a product that doesn't exist yet. The 787 is a great aircraft, but the A350 beats it by a wide margin in capacity, efficiency and range.
Because 787 had orders since 2009. What matters is orders after 350 came on.
Bro airbus should buy Boeing like Mcdouglas got by boeing
That's the best laugh of them all! 😊
Ultra simplified. Innovation is a loss of net revenue, only good for the long run. Cost cutting makes board members and stock holders happy. Airbus gambled on the long run, Boeing swallowed itself with greed.
Then what Airbus gambled on was the apex of present commercial aircraft. Two as-good-as-it-gets engines coupled to a XWB well designed aircraft that cut no corners with the focus on extreme long range. This essentially is eating most of Boeing's market with the failed 787 and rehash of it's existing less capable or competitive aircraft.
Boeing has nothing on the assembly line that competes with the A350 in fuel savings, range, and passenger capacity. More passengers and twice the range of the original Boeing 747 and almost half the fuel burn per hour.
787 and 777x compete
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z Right. 787 riddled with problems and the 777X now 5 years behind schedule and counting,
787 is better and more popular.
last time i flew for work i looked for a airbus
BOEING CRASHES LESS THAN CARS
@@AbdullahNajib-b9z That's fine and I know airfare is generally safer than cars however they've made some blatantly obvious shortcuts and then tried to cover it up so if I can help it when I pick my routes in aircraft I look for an Airbus if I can
@@thetechlibrarian well i dont want a tail falling off,and i love the engine roar,so i choose boeing.
At 6:10 - > " LOWER PRESSURE ALTITUDE" ?? Higher altitude, where the pressure is lower, I don't think they meant that AI man. You want higher pressure, closer to sea level.
Damn youre really smart
A lot of talkin, not a lot of info
pay better attention then, da fuq? 🤦♂
I feel like this video has 3 intro. You mentioned that A350 was initially criticized but managed to turned it around, then you asked "what happened?" 3 times!!! Common mistake usually made by small channels. Just straight to the point.
Alright, RUclips God
@@Aviaat1 Wow, what's with the sarcasm. Sorry if my comment came across as offensive. That's clearly not my attention. I apologize once more. But, with this kind of attitude, I don't think your channel will grow much.
Except that, “every” airline does not want the a350! Good try though!
Surely we understand a figure of speech, my friend?
@@raymasraymas not really-
@@Thesmellofrain-h6o In that case I’d refer you for language acquisition and enrichment
@@raymasraymas Of course I was kidding but thanks for the offer & yes i get “figure of speech” however, this was not the case. :-)
@@Thesmellofrain-h6o Mate, honestly?!
Annoying background music
Annoying comment, don't care.
@@Aviaat1 😂
ooooooof 😂@@Aviaat1
Sounds like a paid advertorial. Thumbs-down from me.
What, not allowed to highlight a good plane anymore?
you traitor airlines🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Stupid imperial units = instant dislike
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Bull. Boeing has it's issues but the B787 has sold 1000+ units with hundreds of orders unfulfilled. And the A350 is more compatible with the B777. Of course the 777 is 90s design and even there the B777 has been an unmitigated success. Of airlines now prefer the B777 it's because it's relatively outdated nothing more nothing less. The B777 has nothing left to prove as it's already a resounding success.
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed are you?
@IBo99608 If you can point out something that I wrote that wasn't factual, then I'd like to hear it. Fact, the B777 is the A350s actual direct competitor and the B777 has been a resounding success. If airlines are choosing the A350, it's because it's a more modern and newer design. Fact, the B787 has been a resounding success and has already sold 1000+ units, with hundreds more orders to fulfill. So no, every airline (exaggeration) is not choosing the A350 over Boeing. Now go crawl back under the rock from whence you came.
Bluff
it’s hardly surprising with Borings attitude to flight safety. likeshop with the B737-max 8. ehen yhe shop floor Engineers pointed how dangerous e design was msnagement said thst yhe Bottom line. is more important than flight safety. snd we had thd fiasco of the B737-max 8 giving into the gfoind dith etheopian aitlines snd yhe ses with Lion Airlines of malaydia. I might gly on a noring if its the diminyo t of the. kies though. thrte are mot msny. sirlines opersting yhrm so it looks as if ehrn Zi gly actoss ghe n pond next it eill be on an airbus. the dpscious canin of the A 350. gets my vote. it depends on if any sirline is clying actoass ghd pond ftom manchedter or Nitmingham whrn I’m ready ho go.
Another fucking Airbus commercial. With bad AI! Oy.
haha you're very good at spotting AI, aren't you?
@ We ALL are by now.
Boeing has the greatest reliability aircraft in the world .in fact airbus stole their design from Boeing
The best aircraft in the market is 787 why Boeing not working on it????
Boeing has great reliable record for very very long time than airbus.Remmber airbus of airframe crashed over Brazil sky few years ago
very rare to find people who are not affected by media bias these days.and yes-boeing is still reliable!
THE 737 WITH ALOT OF AIRLINES
YEAH!