OFF THE CHARTS: EPISODE 263 - DOES EVERY IRON MAIDEN ALBUM SUCK AFTER 1988?
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- OFF THE CHARTS: EPISODE 263 - DOES EVERY IRON MAIDEN ALBUM SUCK AFTER 1988?
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Seventh son album has 90% great songs , every album After has 20-30% great songs .
Heheheheh! Another great way to say what I wanted to say! :) Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! Never thought of mentionning percentages... LOL
Personally I think Brave New World & A Matter of Life and Death are outstanding albums
And that's ok! :) I am relistening to the newer Maiden the last couple of days to see if I was too harsh or off track... LOL Thanks for stopping by!
Totally agree
I personally don't like any Maiden albums after Brave New World. Same for Judas Priest . Any albums after Angel of Retribution , I don't like..
Bruce solo with Adrian/Roy Z i s the way to go today. Damn good!.
I have Iron Maiden music, but only have one good Maiden “story.” In the mid-1990s we had Xmas Gift Exchange at work & my Secret Santa got me the CD Stone Free (multi-artist tribute to Jimi Hendrix), but that cost more than the $10 we were supposed to spend (plus he bought it at the mall, so paid list price). As a thank you I recorded 2 VHS video tapes for him. One was compilation of TV appearances by different artists. The other was the 1983 MTV Heavy Metal Concert w/ Iron Maiden (w/ Paul Dianno), Black Sabbath (w/ Ian Gillan), Ratt, and Dio. He & his friend just stood there wide-eyed. Was afraid maybe they thought Ratt wasn’t heavy enough, since they already busted my balls for including Winger on the other tape. Instead they said they literally were talking about that concert a week earlier and lamenting that neither one recorded it, so after that long would probably NEVER see it again. Yet here I was as Santa dropping it into their laps! Said he didn’t mind AT ALL paying list for my CD. 🎅
That's a great story! I've gotten a few gifts like that myself, or given some away... the reward is always the look on their face when they open the gift! :) Good for you on this, and thanks for sharing that story! Amazing! :)
The first decade of a band is always the 'golden era'. Most, if not all, run out of steam after 10 years...
@@lmjones7716 there are a few exceptions (imo) but yes, after the golden years, most run out of steam…. Well said! Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤘🏻
I have to agree. I love Maiden but nothing they have done since 7th really grabbed me
IM 9.4
K 9.6
TNOTB 9.6
POM 9.6
P 9.7
SIT 9.6/10
SSOASS 10/10
PFTD - 8/10
FOTD - 8.5/10
TXF - 9/10 VXI
8.5/10 BNW
8/10 DOD
7.5/10 AMOLAD
3/10 TFF - 4/10
TBOS - 7.2/10
S - 8.3/10
Bruce's
TM 7.5/10
BTP 8/10
S. 6/10
AOB 9.9/10
CW 9.5/10
TOS 9.2/10
MP 8.5/10
I think people need to get out of the habit of saying if a bands albums are good or bad. I think musical taste is a very personal and subjective thing. It is perfectly reasonable to suggest that people can grow out of liking a band or the direction in which a band is progressing musically, while others can grow to like a band based solely on recent material and not really get into the earlier albums. I personally have never understood why everyone raves about Seventh Son. In my opinion it has a string opening and lulls you into thinking that you are getting a concept album. But the concept in this album is so loosely stitched together and seems so out of order that it may not even be a concept album at all. “Can I play with madness is one if the most ‘unmetal’ radio-bait songs they’ve ever recorded. Surely this song about a profit who fortells the coming of the chosen one should have come first on the album, but it is so flacid and lacking in guitar solos that it would have left the album dead in the water had it been an opening track. “Evil that men do” seems to have no act in the concept. Seventh son has the two minute prog rock that I’m sure many records were scratched and cassette tapes were streched by those who tried to skip some of the meaningless repetitiveness. Then the last two songs again don’t give the concept any closure and have so many time signature and key changes that one could be forgiven for thinking Maiden were trying to rival the Bside of Abbey Road by the beatles, by just stitching together a load of unrelated snippets of verses, choruses and solos. Don’t get me wrong I listen to the album and I enjoy it. But I don’t think it’s the masterpiece so many people make it out to be. However, thats just my opinion. Considering No Prayer for the Dying album, when I first bought this album I was actually hoping it wouldnt be like seventh son. It wasn’t and I loved it. Ten songs that are completely unrelated but which give you balls to the wall HEAVY metal with solos that make sense and are fun to try and replicate. The only song i really didnt like was the title track. In fact, I disliked it so much that I timed how long I needed to fast forward the cassette for to be able to skip it. I HATED the Xfactor. So much in fact that I returned the CD to HMV and got my money back. I also really like the newer maiden material, but I can fully see why some find it hard work and overly progressive. I agree that the live album playthrough for A matter of life and death was a massive mistake. I thought the album was amazing. I went to that gig and it seemed more like a recital than a rock concert. The crowd was flat and gave the courtesy applause after every song, but nobody was really enjoying themselves. It actually turned me off of Maiden and I missed the release of Final Frontier and Book of Souls until I was given the latter as a Christmas present. I loved it. Bought final frontier and loved that too. Then felt gutted that I had allowed my one bad experience and knee jerk reaction to prevent me from seeing the live show for these albums. I am Now a fully committed Maiden fan again. Like I said, i think it’s a personal thing and it’s perfectly okay for people to fall in or out of enjoying a bands material. Essay over.
Wow! GREAT Essay! First of all, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT... I should have named my episode something else or less negative... I myself correct people when they say "that song sucks, or that band sucks" when In fact they should be saying "That song is your least favorite, and that band is your least favorite..." Bad part on me there! As for 7th Son, I like it (as you can state by now) but I did not always like it... took me a while to get into it... NPFTD for me is where it falls flat... song wise... The rest I've explained myself in this episode, but I do appreciate someone defending or explaining themselves in the proper way which you did! Great read! Loved reading it! Thank you for watching and leaving a great comment!
Brave New World was the last classic album. What happened to Maiden through the 90's was that Steve had ran out of ideas, Adrian leaves, then Martain retires, and Bruce leaves as well.
Loosing 2 of your main song writers leave and the primary song writer has no new ideas, and the guiding force who shaped their sound is also gone, this was a respire for disaster.
I think you're right, 7th son was their last decent album
There we go! :) Thank you for stopping by and commenting!
SSOASS was their last _great_ album.
They still did some good songs after, but no albums equal to their previous works.
I tend to prefer the music I listened to in my teens, so I thought it might just be me!
@@adamkane7513 Virtual XI is very good.
hell no. As someone who is more into their long epics, their era since 2000 has been amazing
I agree that Seventh son is the last "real big" album... But I really liked Dance of death .... Paschendale, Age of innocence, Dance of death are great songs, and the fillers are stronger then on other albums... Rainmaker, Montsegur, WIldest dreams, No more lies... Still the best new era album IMO.
Not one Iron Maiden album is bad. Their worst album is better than many famous bands best one
True! Good point! Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
Chemical wedding was beyond excellent.... Bruce should have stayed solo.
Thats the first time this type of comment came out for this episode! Yes, lots of my friends tell me Bruce's solo stuff is more original than Maiden is doing now... I have the first two and the latest one... need to get the stuff in the middle... :) Thanks for stopping by!
I think Brave New World was quite good and Senjutsu is bloody fantastic man ..,
PS no Bruce , no Maiden ..,
And that's fine! Glad you like both! :) For myself, they just don't do anything for me... especially Senjutsu... but thank you for watching and leaving your comments!
@@Matias-music-71 What about D'Ianno?
@@offthecharts2272 , nope , I think it is because Bruce is the first I heard , when I came into them as a young teen and fell in love with metal
@@Matias-music-71 Ya, same with me... I like the D'ianno era, but don't LOVE it... TNOTB was the first NEW album i ever got as a kid...
There's plenty of maiden that's badass after 1988 maybe there's too many fair weather fans
Oh yes, there's plenty of badass Maiden after 1988... I call them songs, not albums! :) LOL Thanks for stopping by!
Am from Singapore. Have been a fan since 1981. You got it spot on! Last great album was 7th Son. After Adrian left, it all went downhill. I still love Maiden but they are past their prime. Which are the dame for all metal bands of the 80s, just to be fair to Steve and gang.
Yes! I feel the same way. All these bands just need to retire.
I think we all just got older, you see as teens in the 80,s maiden and each record from that era was our jam and as 20 somethings in the 90s just stop listening but also times changed and with Adrian gone and then Bruce the golden 80s era was over
@@eoinjames4018 i think OUR age and THEIR age are a big factor…. And Yes, losing Adrian and Bruce (and gaining Yannick Gers) dod not help…
Great episode, I quite enjoyed it. I don’t agree with all your statements but I do admire your level of knowledge and details of all these albums. I agree most are good/great until we see the tour and after it’s disposable. Like another listener mentioned they are not much different to their peers. Metallica? Crue?Kiss? (anything great since revenge???). It’s tough to be able to create fantastic albums for an entire career and yet evolve as artist. Good job!
Honestly, this episode was based on what "most" fans say... not what WE say... Oh I know they are the same as our other peers... some/most bands can't keep creating fantastic albums... some DO... I would say someone like Alice Cooper has delivered very good material, even after his 70's heydey popularity... :) Thanks for the nice comments!
Mr. Dan, I can confirm the first 3 songs of the “legacy of the beast” tour started with “Senjutsu, Stratego and The Writing on the Wall”. This was not the case at the start of the LOTB tour but it was during our leg of the tour. The actual tour for the album we are attending on October 30th :-)
Ya, something told me maybe "Stratego" was played... but I forget the rest... maybe "Writing on the Wall" i remember (since it was the lead single/video...) Looking forward to October though... :)
I think what you really have to do is recognise what an amazing run they had, seven S & A tier Albums in a row! After that there are highs and lows, BNW and AMOLAD are A tier, FOTD B tier and the rest C tiers (ok VXI probably D tier), still plenty of great track's on those albums though.
Fer sure there are great tracks on all albums! And yes you are correct, they did have a great run! But i will still buy them and see them live. Thanks for stopping by!
Just put on Senjutsu and let it play. Really good album.
I did play it lots! Like I said, its not bad…. Its just that I dont find the songs that memorable…. But to each his own eh! Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤘🏻
The first two Dianno and Number of the Beast are all i keep in my collection,they cover the best of what the band offers and the rest are just a lesser repetition of what they did best the first time when they were young and firing on all cylinders.
Great video.
Fear Of The Dark is awesome. I happen to love the Blaze years. Brave New World and Dance Of Death were great too. After DOD…boring.
And I say more power to you if you love them! To me, FOTD had some good songs... but there are 3-4 of them which are head scratchers.... But from NPFTD and forward, I seem to only love 3-4 songs per album as opposed to the whole albums (minus a few oddities in the early catalogue)... But thanks for watching and commenting! Much appreciated!
Blaze’s solo albums are great too!
Yeah, my friends all tell me that! I have one Wolfsbane album, and my friend who hates Maiden with Blaze, he loves Blazes' solo stuff (and Wolfsbane) :)
I’m a fan of at least some stuff from all the albums. But yeah, the newer stuff is hard to get into. Great tours, though.
Im always there for every tour when they come around here! 🤘🏻😋
agree upto 88 is there best stuff
Yay! Another one on my side! LOL :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
I find Seventh Son as the last great album, the rest of the catalog is, as you said, not memorable. Nothing that would really pull me in now. The songs don't seem to stand out as much anymore, but then again, I'm getting old too.
😂😂. I heard my knee creak as i was sitting down to reply to you…. 😂
The up to Seventh Son albums were all solid front to end with a number of songs that rose above the average excellence. Up through Dance of Death I've felt they had the songs that rose above but the average was much lower. Since then they basically seem to just run together without the high peaks of the past. My preference in music has changed without a doubt but I can still listen to the first 8 albums real easy. I think a lot of it is that Iron Maiden was doing stuff no one has done(or they were the first I've noticed), now it's a lot of 'been there, done that'.
Being a fan for 32 years now has given me time to develop ideas and what i can say now is that. Martin birtch was a key piece in the classic-Maiden era that ends with SSOASS, not underestimating Derek Riggs! not music but his paintings were awesome for the Maiden world that they built for us.
Maiden should have used other classic-rock sounding -Bob Ezrin for example- producers who would have stand up to Steve harris and constrain his ideas of long songs, and most of all, give them a CLEAR sound that have lacked.
Musically the X Factor was great, deep but the mix is horrible, guitars are too weak in comparison to drums.
Most of Kevin Shirley's albums sound "muddy" for my taste.
Virtual XI has good, straighforward songs and sound, but suffers from too much repetition.
Every album has it's bad things!
HOT TAKE !. you are a brave man Dan. I do truely love " Seventh Son " and what happened before.
However , in the modern era I do like " Empire In The Clouds ", " The Wicker Man " and like you said at least
3-4 tracks from each album. " Senjutsu " more than 3-4 . I don't think they suck after 1988 its just the deeper
tracks take more listening time.
I will let you know after seeing them live in September if my views will change.
By the way its just Your Age!.😁
So you are seeing the same Maiden tour I will see, but in October! You will get to see it before me! :) Yeah, was a hot take.. and BOY did this episode go viral with views, subs and comments! (I'm having trouble keeping up)... And yeah, must be my age... LOL :) I certainly FELT my age at Motley Crue last saturday... :)
I feel like people buy albums by these older bands albums out of habit. And then they have to defend them because they used to be great. I used to do it too. But after a few bad records I just stop giving any band my money. It's like a completionist mentality. And these bands know that. It's like punching a time clock.
Yip! You just described me perfectly! I'm a completionist and I need help! :)
I love the first three reunion albums.
BNW, DOD and AMOLAD?
Me too! Brave New World was an amazing album IMHO.
I've seen Maiden live since World Slavery Tour, skipped the Blaze tours though. I really like Brave new world, Dance of Death and parts of Senjutsu. Hell on Earth from Senjutsu was epic live, not Rime of the ancient mariner, but had that song been released in the 80's, people would love it I think. Book of Souls has good songs, but it's just too much, too long and not memorable. Final Frontier is a "meh" from me. On the whole, the 80's era was all killer, no filler, but I still find Maiden worth while especially live. Last 2 tours where amazing.
19.26 time It's not rocket science It's Maiden
I agree 100%. When Fear of the Dark came out, I couldn't get over title of the album - fear of the dark....wtf. Who the f**k is afraid of the dark. Was this some sort of child bedtime story, I kept telling to myself. Nope, 7th was the last one for me.
You, sir, are a wise man! Thanks for watching and commenting!
7th Son was peak Maiden for sure. Still plenty of stuff I love since then, but no doubt the band has never matched their 80s output since. I did think Senjutsu was maybe the best one since 7th son. I rank Virtual XI, Fear of the Dark, Final Frontier, x Factor, & Book of Souls as the 5 worst albums in their discography. Also, the Kevin Shirley + Harris studio production quality is very hit or miss.
Short answer: yes. Long answer: Brave New World was decent, sans two or three filler songs.
Hahahaha Fair enough! Yeah, BNW was great at the time... but became good after a long while... thanks for watching and commenting!
Fucking love blaze era 😁 but my favorite era of maiden is 88-98 🤘
Really... Can I ask if it's that version of the band you grew up with? Because I grew up with the 79-88 version mostly...
@@offthecharts2272 no , the first “new” maiden album I bought when I was 13 “a matter of life and death” .
I will say 88-98 wasn’t always my favorite span but I would say the last 8 years or so it has been my favorite .
@@krashkoursemetalshow I think I was in my late 30's when AMOLAD came out... :) I think this may be the first time we don't see eye to eye (and that's ok) :)
@@offthecharts2272 all good 😁🤘
Interesting video, I always hear people complain the Blaze albums are too repetitive but I wonder if they have actually listened to anything With Bruce since he returned, all of it is very repetitive and too long in length of songs, o well I think most just hate on Blaze, I enjoy his two albums just as much as anything they have done since 2000.
THANK YOU!!! Someone who understands what I was talking about! That's what I meant by "the Blaze albums are as good/bad as the return of Bruce albums! Glad to know you my friend! Have a good day! I'm off to see the Crue tonite... Ouf! :)
The X factor is very underrated for sure. I dare say that The edge of darkness is better than any song they wrote after. Virtual XI was weaker. But I really can't get into any album since Bruce returned. I think their sound got softer albeit more epic. Bruce's singing couldn't keep up either, then the cancer made things worse.He is still a good singer, but sadly a shadow of his former glory.
I feel they simply ran out of ideas at some point, like most other classic metal bands.
@@toro5280 pretty accurate comment, if you ask me... Yeah, Bruce's vocals are not as great either (to me starting at AMOLAD and on) - he seems to have been mixed way lower than he used to be... but he can still sing live (so I'm not sure why he is mixed in low on record...)
I think the Blaze albums suffered because Blaze was not a Bruce-clone and everything was being compared to golden-era Iron Maiden. X-Factor/Virtual XI compare very well to NPFtD and FotD I believe.
NPFTD was definitely a weak follow up to Seventh Son, I don’t really care for the album myself it’s probably my least listened to album alongside the Final Frontier. I really liked there lastest album Senjutsu
Great episode sir, one of your best!
LOL Thanks! Stay tuned, another "rant"-ish episode coming next week... :)
I love No prayer, Brave, Dance and matter.
I have to agree though, I think their last POWERHOUSE was Seventh son.
I love all the singles from No
Prayer!
No they sucked right after Iron Maiden and Killers so that would be around 1980ish but I think that goes without saying 😜
Hahahahaha Ok! :) You're not the first one to say that either! Thanks for stopping by!
Brave New World is a great album, the 4 after seventh son were poor.
I also enjoy AMOLAD (Didn’t enjoy the tour as they played the album in it’s entirety before you could take the album in).
Really enjoy Senjutsu and Final Frontier also.
Still a great live band too 🤘
So they litterally played AMOLAD on the WHOLE tour??? Not just here in Canada? You'd wonder if they noticed ppl not being as rowdy/cheering when they played the whole album... you said it correct, an album needs to "set in" for it to be played live as a whole... bad decision (imo) Thanks for stopping by!
No, every album sucks after 1986 !
LOL! YEs, i've heard that one too where not too many people like Seventh Son also... I happen to like it! But we are close, you and I! :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
I would say that the albums from 80 - 88 is untouchable and their best output of their career. In the 90's they struggled pretty bad and delievered 4 not so memorable albums imo, but from Brave New World they deliever pretty solid up till now. From the 00's I would call their prog era with long and great songs.
Yeah, I dont find the newer albums BAD... I just find them unmemorable (although there ARE some great songs in that era...) It's funny that after making this episode, the variety of comments is overwhelming... never once the same answer! :) Thanks for stopping by!
@@offthecharts2272 no problem, and I guess also that the albums one listened to in the beginning as a youth/child make you kinda biased too. And as an adult one is not as easily impressed as a kid.
@@BjrnOlavLeraand Some ppl have mentionned "take the Maiden name off... are the newer albums still good/bad if you listened to these albums for a first time as an unknown band?"... interesting... so that's how I tried to listen to them after I did this episode... :)
@@offthecharts2272 I have a son who is 15, he loves Maiden of all his heart. His favorite albums is AMOLAD and TFF. It was his first meeting with Maiden, he since has ofc embraced the early years 80 - 88. When asked about the 90's records he place those at the bottom, but said they are not bad but not on par with the other albums.
@@BjrnOlavLeraand Hahahahaha! THats awesome! Yeah, lots of ppl love AMOLAD which baffles me (but to each his own...) but I do love TFF (and apparently, of all the Bruce albums, that is often seen as the least favorite... ) I tell you, I cannot win! :)
my favorite album is Brave New World
I like that one! I dont love it, but I definitely do like it! The Nomad is my favorite track off it! Thank you for watching and commenting!
I think The Nomad is the best song on Brave New World..in my opinion
I share that opinion! 😋🤘🏻
Absolutely! After 7th son it hets boring. Worst are the Blaze albums and the ones after Brave New World. Repetitive granddaddy folk rock. I prefer Priest anyday!
One would add two more albums even though you could end it in 1988. But I think the good run ended in 1992. I really like No Prayer For The Dying and Fear Of The Dark, so that's where I would end it.
And that's fair! I'm not saying I'm correct... I'm just stating my opinion and you are stating yours! :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
All you need are the first two albums.
NPFTD - 6/10
FOTD - 6/10
TXF - 6/10
VXI - 6/10
BNW - 8/10
DOD - 3/10
AMOLAD - 5/10
TFF - 4/10 (Can't actually remember a single song from this album, but remember it was "ok")
TBOS - 7/10 - Raised by the absolutely phenomenal Empire Of The Clouds. What a song!!!
S - 6/10
All in all I'm in total agreement, SSOTSS was their last fantastic album, and I don't "go to" the newer albums when I want to spin one.
Loved the ratings! Seems we're on the same page! Thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting! :)
Totally agree, BNW is a fabulous return to form then it dropped off
Yes
Simple answer is no, but it’s a lot more complex than that.. In NPFTD the only impressive track is Mother Russia. Everything else is total audio garbage. Specially Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter is pure cringe as well as Holy Smoke. You know an album is bad when two of the worst songs are often highlighted as the album's best
Music art and ideas develops by the time and age... Iron Maiden developed by the time and age.... Fans dont....
I generally agree and share the feelings! Great review
Thank you for the nice comments! And thank you for stopping by!
Yes they all suck after 1988
Brave New World is a good album
Every Iron Maiden album was 5 stars, up to Powerslave. Live After Death was a fantastic live album and the band has had a handful of really good tunes since then. However, much of their later period, more progressive sounding pieces fall very short for me, as I find them very boring, predictable and just not very musically exciting. That's just my opinion, of course! I think they had two apexes. Ther first being the killers/maiden japan period, and then, of course the powerslave, 1985 tour, which yielded Live After Death. 5 star albums to one or two stars for me, really. "El Dorado", off of Fear of The Dark really rocks! Cheers & rock on! \m/
Ya I’d say we are pretty much in agreement with your statement. 😋. I love the use of your word “boring”…. Which is exactly what I mean by “unmemorable”…. Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤘🏻
I love Brave New World!
They have some good, decent, and mediocre albums after Seventh Son, but no truly great ones. Fear of the Dark was a bad album overall, with a few classic songs.
That's not right, I'd say every Maiden album after 1984 sucks. 🙂
I've heard that one too! Came up in the comments a few times also! :) But for me it's 1988! :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Firstly Maiden are not a CD / Vinyl/cassette band. They are a live band. Their songs are written for a live audience. They are repetitive on playing formats. Not repetitive live as we join in. Oh dear! I accept it’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it and should be respected. However, my opinion is if you think Brave New World, A Matter of life and Death and Book of Souls not memorable. Really!!🙄
Ha ha you give them even more credit than I do. I love everything up to Seventh Son. I think Seventh Son might even be my favorite album. Infinite Dreams is my favorite Maiden song for sure. And I wish they would have stayed in that direction as far as writing goes.
After Seventh Son they were no longer interesting to me. I think my musical tastes were probably changing at the time. I was discovering so many great things musically that their 3 listenable songs per album just wasn't going to cut it for me.
A band that has taken the essence of what was great about Maiden and modernized it is Avenged Sevenfold. If Maiden would have consistently progressed to be a modern band, that is what they should sound like. But they just sound outdated to me.
If anyone read this post and got their feelings hurt, please move along to the next comment. My comment is not for you or to cause a debate. It is only my personal opinion and if you have one that is different, I can appreciate that and maybe another person will choose to discuss it with you, so create your own comment rather than trying to argue with me in a reply.
Hahahahaha! Well said my friend! Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing! Much appreciated! Yeah, i've had LOTS of debate regarding this episode (as you can see with the million comments!) And I am pretty much the same vein as you, except liking a few songs on each album after 7th Son... :)
Maiden is a niche band. You either like them or you don't.
I LOVE the early stuff... I tolerate the newer stuff... so what category am I? LOL Thanks for watching and commenting!
Maiden is anything but a niche band.
Yes.
There you go! He said it folks! 🤘🏻
It depends on the album, Brave New World, Dance Of Death and The Book Of Souls all were fantastic. The others from that era also had a few good cuts, nothing will top the first 7 though.
I can accept that answer! :) To me it's BNW and TFF that are the better ones after 7th Son... thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting!
@@offthecharts2272 The Final Frontier has some strong songs, The Talisman has gone on to become one of my top Maiden tunes actually.
@@Skycladatdusk78 For me it's "the Nomad"... I absolutely LOVE the mood and the solo in the end.... :)
@@Skycladatdusk78 Now I realise I'm talking about the wrong album... Satelite 15 is as original and different as they ever did... :)
@@offthecharts2272 Yeah that was a great way to start off Final Frontier. The Nomad was on Brave New World.
YES!!!
Rock on! :) Thanks for visiting, watching and commenting!
I wouldn't say so. I think Book of Souls and Senjutsu are good albums.
Awesome! For me, those 2 albums have 2-3 good songs on them... the rest I just can't get into... thanks for stopping by and commenting!
For me, I'd say '86, but then Somewhere In Time set the bar quite high. When Seventh Son came out I loved it. Now, it's my least revisited. Same sound as Somewhere but the songs aren't quite at the same level. That said, I do go as far as Fear Of The Dark. I've tried but can't get into anything after. They do have a lot of really fun b-sides at least on through to the X Factor, too.
They've always had good b-sides actually... even if the album wasn't great... you could always look forward to those b-sides! :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Brave New World was a decent album but every other release can not reach the hight's of the first eight Maiden recordings. Senjutsu is by far the waekest. Getting rid of Derek Riggs was also a mistake because Eddie is an important part of Maiden, I'd say he's 50% of their success. People bought Maiden records just because of the excellent album covers. At A Matter Of Life And Death, Eddie can only be seen in the background. I wonder what that's all about? Ed must be recognizable over a large area.
I never thought of it that way (regarding the artwork)... I will admit the artwork helped me buy those albums as a teen... now I just buy them out of force of habit (to complete collections) LOL As for Derek Riggs, I LOVED him... but wasn't his artwork getting a little worse near No Prayer? At one point, it seemed he could only draw Eddie from the front... sideways, he looked horrible (But, I do not know the real reason they got rid of Derek Riggs... I guess I can look it up) :) Thanks for stopping by and commenting!
I love all of Maiden's albums, but in all honesty, the albums from Brave New World, to Senjutsu are the ones I listen to most often(and that is very often!), and I have been a fan since about '82 and saw them live back then as well, my absolute favorite Maiden album of all is The Final Frontier. The current lineup is THE lineup with all three guitarists, Janick has contributed so many amazing songs. So the answer is no!🤘
I hate having to agree with you but, you're absolutely right! After the 80s pretty much Maden went downhill hard. It's like you said, they just don't write memorable songs anymore. Where's the Run to the Hills, where's the Trooper, where's the 2 Minutes to Midnight of the current ERA ? There's just no hits anymore coming from them. The albums are not bad, they're just not great! I think they lost their spark when Martin Birch left. I think Kevin Shirley is a horrible producer. He doesn't clue them in like he should. They've become just another self-centered, deluded, Spinal Tap like case in point. I'm glad they're still around, I still get excited when they put out a new album and I always buy it, but I really wish they go back to the days of glory and I just can't understand why they can't at least try and make something memorable?!? Ugh...
LOL! "You hate to agree with me???" Hahaha Do we know each other and are we enemies? :) You blame Martin Birch, I blame Jannick Gers! hahahahaha :) It all went to shit since Adrian left and Jannick joined! :) But yeah, I am like you... I keep buying the albums in hopes of one day finding a gem, but never happens... Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Strangely I very rarely play Seventh Son,it's never been a fave of mine whereas Dance of Death is-i think-one of their strongest albums.The Blaze albums musically/production wise are pretty good but Blaze had no vocal range so just sounded like any other pub singer.
Ya, Dance of Death really does nothing for me... but I am glad YOU like it and that's what counts, right? Ya, lots wrong with the Blaze albums... but there is some stuff off it I like! Thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting!
@@offthecharts2272 November 4th 1990,i was at the Royal Concert Hall here in Nottingham for Queensryche.....Walking round the bar area with an entourage,talking very,very loudly and making sure everyone knew he was there was Blaze Bayley....i was never a Wolfsbane fan and he really didn`t indear himself to me or anyone else in the vacinity.
@@MichaelRowe-cv3oq ouf! :) That was 5 years before the X-Factor I believe eh? So, I'm not familiar with the word "indear"... does that mean that he didn't impress you?
No...end of video
Bands like Iron Maiden get into a rut where they will only allow certain people write their songs for the reason of royalties and ownership. This makes all their music sound the same. Iron Maiden needs to let outside artists write music for them.
Are you talking about someone like Desmond Child? 😂😂. (Joking). But seriously, it never donned on me Maiden have never had any outside writers…. Not a bad idea! Thanks for watching and commenting! 🤘🏻
The Big problem is that Steve has way to much control.
@@drumkit666 true dat!
Yes.
I was fooled when Maiden got back together and wickerman was released. I thought Maiden was back, but it was not to be. Brave new world cd is the best release since their reunion. The rest are drink coasters.
With all the money I paid for those later CDs, some special edition, I couldn't bring myself to using them as coasters! LOL :)
No Prayer For The Dying, Brave New World i like alot, i wish sometimes Maiden would do more straight to the point records considering their age it's understandable.
Fear of The Dark, X factor, Dance of Death, Matter of life and death, Final Frontier, Book Of Souls are good to decent.
Virtual XI is hard to defend besides Furtueal and The Clansman it's pretty forgettable and Senjistu i tired i mostly fall asleep listening to it.
LOL! Not the first time I heard someone falling asleep on newer Maiden :) Maiden usually does straightforward songs... but only for the first song on the album, then it all goes downhill after that! :) Thanks for watching and commenting!
Nope.
I love all of their albums for the most part.
Book of Souls and Final Frontier are my 2 favorites actually.
I will give you TFF... but Book of Souls is SLOWLY getting better... slowly... I dont know why i love the Red and the Black so much! LOL Thanks for watching and commenting!
I liked fear of the dark
That's great! I know some other ppl who do also! I never said I was correct in my opinions! But hey, to each his own! Thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting!
Fear Of The Dark ,best album Maiden did in the 90's. VIRTUAL 11 is good also. But I skip The angel And the Gambler song everytime. It sux
Incorrect. They all suck after 1985.😅
@@petarticinovic2710 😂😂. Ya I’ve heard that one too! Thanks for stopping by! 🤘🏻
@@offthecharts2272 You got it, man.😃
@@petarticinovic2710 🤘🏻🤘🏻
There are two maiden eras. The one that played 5 minute catchy headbanging tunes fir pimple faced teens, and the second era that plays progressive metal that emphasizes music over verse and lyrics. Aduts appreciatr this era. Guys with maidem shirts size XXXL do not.
wow...
Hey! My Maiden shirt is only XXL!
@@ericv7720 🤣😂Fair enough! :)
Too simplistic mate, you can't base 2 eras on the age of the people buying the albums. Guys who were 17 or 18 in 1979 were in there 20s in the 80s, hardly pimply youths.
I quite like Dance Of Death
Me too, that one along with Brave New World and The Book Of Souls are my favorites of the 2000-present era.
I think there's only 3 songs I "love" on Dance of Death... but hey, to each his own eh? :) Thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting!
A matter of life of death had good songs on it brave New world had good songs on it the actual song dance of death is fantastic not a big fan of the album after brave New world though The final frontier they can't win them all but they certainly don't suck after 1988
Yep, each album after 7th Son had 3-4 great songs (imo)... just not a full album's worth... but that's just me! :) Thanks for stopping by!
Naming Hooks in you made me laugh hard, just like naming Wildest Dreams a good opening song..... what a joke😂 I totally disagree with your whole video. Saying the 2000 albums are on the same level as the Blaze albums 😂
Glad I made you laugh! 😂. That’s entertainment for ya! Make sure to come back when I talk about how Guns n Roses best album is Chinese Democracy! 🤘🏻. Thanks for stopping by!
@@offthecharts2272 Hahahaha
@@ettio 😂🙃
Can't agree with A Matter of Life and Death...loved it. Book of Souls...amazing and Senjutsu can give any pre 88 album a run for it's money. Think of these songs from the earlier albums that are good but not great...Gangland, Innocent Exile, Prodigal Son, Invaders, To Tame a Land, Sun and Steel, Quest for Fire, Strange World, The Duellists, The Prophecy, Heaven Can Wait, Sea of Madness, The Clairvoyant, ..all pre 88 and none as good as If Eternity Could Fail, Speed of Light, The Red and the Black, Empire of the Clouds, The Writing on the Wall, Hell on Earth, El Dorado, ...etc every album has some songs better than others....I suppose a measure of an album are songs you would skip...Senjutsu, BofS and AMOLAD for me...none, and I bought Killers as a 10 year old when it was released and love the old stuff.
And see, Invaders, Sun and Steel, The Duelists, The Prophecy, Heaven Can Wait, Sea of Madness & The Clairvoyant are all songs i LOVE... And I did say there are 3-4 good to great songs on newer albums... And if we are talking skipping, well, I could skip the whole discography starting from DoD (minus TFF)... :) But hey, to each his own eh? Thanks for stopping by, watching and commenting! :)
I would everything after powerslave hasnt been great except possibly brave new world...
Ah really? Wow, this one I never heard before... to me, up until 1988, everything was great (overall). But thank you for watching and sharing your comments! Much appreciated!
Simple answer: No!
Correct :)
Brave new world is amazing everything after that is pants
I can understand that! :) Thanks for stopping by!
To asnwer the question.. NOPE.. Been a Maiden fan since the mid 80's My first album I ever bought with my own money was NOTB. I was like 11-12 at the time. I think a lot of people in my age group can't accept that bands change. They're artists, why on earth would people expect a band as great as Maiden to keep putting out the same sounding stuff evey album. I remember when SIT came out and die hard fans hated it, now of course they love it same w/ 7th because it's all considered part of that "classic" Maiden sound, which is crap, cause ST and Killers of course is way different than the other Maiden albums, SIT it is completely different from any of the previous 5 albums and 7th is different as well. So we could already see they were growing, stretching and trying different things along the way.i will say this w/ Bruce on vocals No Prayer is my least favorite. Even back then and now it's hard for me to really get into. I thought Fear was a way better album and of course completely different sound than the others, so again they were already evolving and trying different things along the way. When Brave came out of course I was stoked and I loved it, cause it wasn't classic sounding Maiden, but theres just something about Bruce and Adrian being in that band. i thought Dance of Death was a good album, some really good songs on that one too. When Life and Death came out I thought that was their best album since SIT personally. And again musically evolving from the other albums. Final frontier for me is my least favorite post Brave (reunion) album. I still have a hard time sitting down and listening to it all the way through. the last two I thought were solid. People need to realize that these bands that stick around for 40-50 years aren't gonna be sounding, writing or playing the same way they did when they were young. People change, bands change, the music scene changes, technology and they way they record now has changed, everything has changed so why wouldn't they music? And let's be real.. the worst three albums by Maiden to me are still far better than what most metal albums are today.. But again this is all my personal opinion. and here's my opinion as well..And here's my honest gonna get crap for sharing opinion.. I never really cared for 7th son. Just never really did anything for me. I thought it was over produced at the time, to shiny and none of the songs really grabbed me. Here's my complete list by favorites. I listed it by most played, most songs on each that I really like and if I can connect to it.
1. Piece of Mind
2. Somewhere in Time
3. # of the beast
4. Killers
5. Matter of Life & Death
6. Fear of the Dark
7. S.T.
8. Dance of Death
9. Brave New World
10. Powerslave
11. Senjutsu
12. Book Of Souls
13. Virtual XI
14. 7th Son
15. The Final Frontier
16. X Factor
17. No Prayer for the Dying.
First of all, thanks for watching and commenting! Very good read (Seems this episode brought out all the best essays in You TUbe land) :) Again, each one is allowed their opinion, and so am I... I agree with everything you said, except change the word "evolve" into "devolve" :) And to me, (parts of ) The Final Frontier were EVOLVED... but again, that is me! I seem to have gotten into Maiden about the same time you did... i was 10 in 1982 when I got TNOTB... :) As for 7th Son, ya it took me a long while to get into that one at the time.. Thanks for stopping by! :)
Iron Maiden albums are all really patchy since Seventh Son. That's the last album where every song is at least good. Even the really deep cuts that never got played live. Since then the albums have all been a really mixed bag.
I totally agree with your take on it! "Patchy" is the perfect word to describe anything after 1988! :) I'm gonna use that when talking to people! LOL Thanks for watching and commenting!
Decent, good, very good, crap, adequate, just ok or whatever, nothing after Seventh son is as good as any till then.
hahahahaha! That's one way to put it! :) Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
enjoy Bluesfest , any good acts up your way ???
Motley Crue... and yeah, i know they suck with Vince now... but am curious to see this new lineup... and mostly because i need a night out! LOL
@@offthecharts2272 , enjoy !!
For me, Dance of Death is Maiden's final classic. Shit cover aside, even with the fillers I can listen to it without skipping. However they're never going to recapture their 80's material, though the albums since then have their moments.
Interesting! I love all the different takes on this subject... seems what I heard from friends and online isn't the same as going on YT and sharing this idea... the opinions are all over the place (which is ok)... Thanks for watching and commenting!
Waah wash 😢. The song's are too long. If you don't like it go listen to AC/DC and live in the past. I listen to more of the newer Maiden over the 80s now. Been a fan since I was 10 yrs old in 81. I personally think Senjitsu is the best thing since Seventh Son.
And if you like long songs, go for it! More power to you! I love long songs too... repetitive and long drawn out intros which seem to be with almost ALL songs, then I'm out! But you are entitled your opinion just like I am! Thanks for stopping by though!
@@offthecharts2272 I prefer bands like Dream Theater, Nightwish and Aryeon. Who do long songs. But they change the structure so it doesn't become repetitive. I already follow The Contraions and SOT. So I subscribed to your channel.
@@briansf7012 Hehehehe, I get it! :) I've seen both DT and Nightwish live.. great bands! And yes, their long songs have so much structure change that you are constantly discovering something new... even after the 100th listen! :) Thank you for subscribing! Much appreciated!
I disagree completely, A matter of life or death is a masterpiece,
And thats great you like it! It absolutely does nothing for me... But, if you love it, that's what counts, right?
The only bad album is No Prayer For The Dying. That's about it.
That's one of them for sure!
Fock no.
@@girthbrooks-lk9cq 😂😂🤘🏻
NO.
OK.
'No Prayer for the Dying' is one of my all time favorite Maiden albums and it definitely doesn't suck. Songs like 'Tailgunner' and 'Run Silent Run Deep' are more than solid, while the title track is a sheer masterpiece. From a musical, compositional and lyrical standpoint the title track is as great as anything this band has ever released (Steve Harris as a songwriting genius). Furthermore, the title track of their next album (Fear of the Dark) is also brilliant. Just because their music stopped being as 'heavy' as it used to be, it doesn't mean that it was no longer good. Was there a change in sound after Seventh Son? Yes there was, and fans usually don't like the change, I can understand that. But change is not a criteria for anything, whether good or bad. You either accept it or you don't...(by the way, for me personally, everything that came after the Fear of the Dark album is something I can happily live without)
Hey, I liked the album when it came out... to me, it just did not age very well.. But, I am glad you like it... I'm not saying my tastes are right or wrong, but I was just going with what the "general" public was going by... And since I posted this video, seems the opinions regardint the subject matter is litterally all over the place! Thank you for watching, for the comments and for stopping by! Much appreciated!
@@offthecharts2272 Thanks for posting your video. It definitely hit the nail on the head in case of most of us...
@@AlexanderG-mi7ip Ya, easily my most viral video so far... and still going! I guess the trick to figure out the YT algorythm is to make a controversial episode eh? LOL :)