Reverse engineered a docking station for temperature and pressure data loggers for dental machines today. The Raptor scanned the black ABS part without issues in 5-10min. The only issue was that the markers on the part weren’t correctly detected and couldn’t used for merging. But the manual feature merge went fine. Reverse engineered it in Geomagic design X. Printed on a X1C in PETG-hf and it’s identical to the original part without using calipers 😅
Well laid out comparison👍👍. Few things to add though: Using Otter for scanning, needs one to be looking at PC, while coordinating the movements with the hand, holding the scanner. It can be learned over time, but not very intutive for beginner. A manual turntable can improve it, but you lose flexibility of moving with hand. Also tracking is bad for underspec computers(for certain objects in markerless NIR mode), can work with usb2.0, but can have issues with power, making the connectivity glitchy. There is also some kind of additional softening on sharp edges(not sure if it is software related), apart from occasional ghosting. Has capacitive buttons, that I was not able to feel for proper operation. Had to return it, due to the above list of issues. Raptor is a breeze to scan with direct feedback from blue laser lines. No need to look at PC. It is also fast due to higher fps of the blue laser. Has real buttons, to feel and operate easily. Markers are a pain, but performance is stable and very predictable. Works only with USB3.0 connectivity. Using an external powerbank will avoid the need for a power outlet(for the additional 12v, that has its own adapter). Also find the 7 line laser sufficient, if you make additional diagonal sweeps over same scanned areas(may be RaptorX avoids this extra step🤔, with the cross laser). Plasticity is a new software to add, to the list already mentioned. Affordable while also non-cloud based, with some advanced features. Would love to own a RaptorX, but cannot afford right now. ❤👍
I forgot to mention that Otter requires more computing power than Raptor while scanning and the preview windows screen doesn't contain as much detail as the Raptor.
I agree with your conclusions based on your vídeo's and my raptor scanner Raptor x would have been my preference, but i don't have +3000Eur to spend on a scanner. I probably would have been more happy with the otter, but i need the accuracy, and i verified it to be indeed 50micrometer std deviation so for my purposes i'm stuck with the markers (very close together because of the smaller capture area) -> the small capture area for the 7 line laser mode is really the downside to this (raptor) scanner. -> I expected the worse performance of the nir system because of your video's, but i can live with that.
Love the video. With the Raptor X price increase of $1000, it’s not reasonable to upgrade from the Raptor especially since the 7 laser line mode is the same. I will argue with one point: Fusion 360 is not a beginner CAD, it was designed to replace Inventor. Inventor like Solidworks is a strict parametric modeler, Fusion is a hybrid. With its many workspaces from modeling, to simulation, to CAM-many businesses use it. It is without a doubt a professional program. Now something like Tinkercad is a beginner program. I worked with Autodesk for number of years and teach CAD.
I've been using Inventor since 1999. This cloud base Fusion 360 is not there long enough to proof it professionality. If you try to make 7,000 parts assembly in Fusion 360, you'll know why. It's faster to learn with 1/3 the price of the subscription fee.
thinking about getting the raptor. i was a backer for the MetroX and i canceled it after seeing their hands on scans. it looked extremely slow to me compared to the Raptor. im waiting for more hands on detailed reviews from people about metroX. was hoping you would of gotten a review unit..
Thank you for the great video! For scannning small electronics like phones or handheld PCs in order to model cases to 3d print, would you suggest the raptor or the otter? It sounds like they would both work but for different reasons. I'm just curious if you had an opinion on which one would be best. Or if there is a different scanner that would work better then the raptor or the otter. You definitely put a lot of work into these comparisons.
I would pick the Raptor. You're working on fitting part. I've scanned the phone to make a holder, and it fit like glove. Currently I don't see any scanner come close to this at this price range. Revopoint'll send me Metro X for testing end of Jan next year. I'll make comprehensive comparison as well.
So if I wanted it to scan my entire vehicle and every single part of the vehicle (from small brackets up to body panels), would it be worth the extra money for the raptor x, or is the raptor more than enough and just work a bit slower?
The raptor will be doable BUT ----> you need to place a lot of markers. Markers in triangle formes with sides of 6cm work best (8cm works but requires more patience with tracking lost ect.) But even with this, it will be very slow.... I like my raptor, because i don't need it very often. So if you are doing a hobby project, you can spend an entire day placing markers, scanning and removing them to scan a car body. But it will be slow...
@@minibeyse So if my aim was to scan it panel by panel over a long period of time the raptor would make more sense from a cost perspective? Are those big rolls of stickers on amazon any good? I want to make detailed models of a number of engine parts, but I also want to make a good quality mesh of the truck that I can import into beamng.
@@Payo-TensileCreator What is the possibility of using stickers for global markers only, and use magnet mounted markers for smaller sections(panels)? The advantage being able to re-use the magnetic markers, as long as there is a overlap of scanned areas. It is also quicker to reposition. Should be able to scan with Raptor over several hours(thanks to global markers), with several breaks in between?. Just some 💭
Yes, you can relocate the magnetic markers after completing one panel and leave some for over lapping area (20% at least) 500 pcs would be enough for scanning panel by panel. Set resolution to 1.0 - 1.2 mm for panel scanning.
I don't understand why don't they integrate Otter NIR technology into Raptor, so you can have single device capable for best results in different case scenarios.
I think so, there're space available on Raptor body where they can put those in. Creality released 3 scanners in less than a year. I think they're up to something in this business.
The only downside to these scanners is Creality's approach to customer service. I ordered my scanner on December 7th, and according to the information provided, it was supposed to be shipped on December 20th. I added other products to my cart that were listed as available, but it turns out they were out of stock. As a result, instead of shipping the scanner as promised, the entire order has been stuck. Despite sending multiple emails to customer support, I haven't received any real assistance, only being told to be patient. It's frustrating that a purchased product needs a month to ship and there's no way to modify the order; the only options are to cancel it entirely or wait. It doesn't matter how good a product is if you have to wait weeks for it.
@@Dotec3D it is not about Christmas it is about missleading information about products, if something is not in stock it should be shown on page and if you try to ask to correct your order it should be possible not by saying "be patient" and order was made on December 7th
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Reverse engineered a docking station for temperature and pressure data loggers for dental machines today. The Raptor scanned the black ABS part without issues in 5-10min.
The only issue was that the markers on the part weren’t correctly detected and couldn’t used for merging. But the manual feature merge went fine.
Reverse engineered it in Geomagic design X. Printed on a X1C in PETG-hf and it’s identical to the original part without using calipers 😅
Love your videos, excellent work. Best scan I did with the otter was a Polished Chrome Lion statuette.. no markers no sprays... love the otter
You made my day, thank you for all your work and time to show us present scaners world. It is very helpful and inspiring. Keep going
Thank you! Will do!
Well laid out comparison👍👍. Few things to add though: Using Otter for scanning, needs one to be looking at PC, while coordinating the movements with the hand, holding the scanner. It can be learned over time, but not very intutive for beginner. A manual turntable can improve it, but you lose flexibility of moving with hand. Also tracking is bad for underspec computers(for certain objects in markerless NIR mode), can work with usb2.0, but can have issues with power, making the connectivity glitchy. There is also some kind of additional softening on sharp edges(not sure if it is software related), apart from occasional ghosting. Has capacitive buttons, that I was not able to feel for proper operation. Had to return it, due to the above list of issues.
Raptor is a breeze to scan with direct feedback from blue laser lines. No need to look at PC. It is also fast due to higher fps of the blue laser. Has real buttons, to feel and operate easily. Markers are a pain, but performance is stable and very predictable. Works only with USB3.0 connectivity. Using an external powerbank will avoid the need for a power outlet(for the additional 12v, that has its own adapter). Also find the 7 line laser sufficient, if you make additional diagonal sweeps over same scanned areas(may be RaptorX avoids this extra step🤔, with the cross laser).
Plasticity is a new software to add, to the list already mentioned.
Affordable while also non-cloud based, with some advanced features. Would love to own a RaptorX, but cannot afford right now. ❤👍
I forgot to mention that Otter requires more computing power than Raptor while scanning and the preview windows screen doesn't contain as much detail as the Raptor.
Excellent. Thanks!
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I agree with your conclusions based on your vídeo's and my raptor scanner
Raptor x would have been my preference, but i don't have +3000Eur to spend on a scanner.
I probably would have been more happy with the otter, but i need the accuracy, and i verified it to be indeed 50micrometer std deviation so for my purposes i'm stuck with the markers (very close together because of the smaller capture area)
-> the small capture area for the 7 line laser mode is really the downside to this (raptor) scanner.
-> I expected the worse performance of the nir system because of your video's, but i can live with that.
Good summary!
Thanks!
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Love the video. With the Raptor X price increase of $1000, it’s not reasonable to upgrade from the Raptor especially since the 7 laser line mode is the same. I will argue with one point: Fusion 360 is not a beginner CAD, it was designed to replace Inventor. Inventor like Solidworks is a strict parametric modeler, Fusion is a hybrid. With its many workspaces from modeling, to simulation, to CAM-many businesses use it. It is without a doubt a professional program. Now something like Tinkercad is a beginner program. I worked with Autodesk for number of years and teach CAD.
I've been using Inventor since 1999. This cloud base Fusion 360 is not there long enough to proof it professionality. If you try to make 7,000 parts assembly in Fusion 360, you'll know why. It's faster to learn with 1/3 the price of the subscription fee.
@@Payo-TensileCreator I’m just telling you from my work with Autodesk, that their intention is to make Fusion 363 replacement for Inventor.
thinking about getting the raptor. i was a backer for the MetroX and i canceled it after seeing their hands on scans. it looked extremely slow to me compared to the Raptor. im waiting for more hands on detailed reviews from people about metroX. was hoping you would of gotten a review unit..
Revopoint told me they will send me a testing unit end of Jan, saying that they have delay shipping issue with the KS order.
Thank you for the great video! For scannning small electronics like phones or handheld PCs in order to model cases to 3d print, would you suggest the raptor or the otter? It sounds like they would both work but for different reasons. I'm just curious if you had an opinion on which one would be best. Or if there is a different scanner that would work better then the raptor or the otter. You definitely put a lot of work into these comparisons.
I would pick the Raptor. You're working on fitting part. I've scanned the phone to make a holder, and it fit like glove. Currently I don't see any scanner come close to this at this price range. Revopoint'll send me Metro X for testing end of Jan next year. I'll make comprehensive comparison as well.
And My favorite Lizard scan?
So if I wanted it to scan my entire vehicle and every single part of the vehicle (from small brackets up to body panels), would it be worth the extra money for the raptor x, or is the raptor more than enough and just work a bit slower?
The raptor will be doable BUT ----> you need to place a lot of markers. Markers in triangle formes with sides of 6cm work best (8cm works but requires more patience with tracking lost ect.)
But even with this, it will be very slow....
I like my raptor, because i don't need it very often. So if you are doing a hobby project, you can spend an entire day placing markers, scanning and removing them to scan a car body. But it will be slow...
@@minibeyse So if my aim was to scan it panel by panel over a long period of time the raptor would make more sense from a cost perspective?
Are those big rolls of stickers on amazon any good?
I want to make detailed models of a number of engine parts, but I also want to make a good quality mesh of the truck that I can import into beamng.
You'll be exhausted. Raptor original requires 4X the markers than Raptor X. It's not worth the time, if you have budget go for the X.
@@Payo-TensileCreator What is the possibility of using stickers for global markers only, and use magnet mounted markers for smaller sections(panels)? The advantage being able to re-use the magnetic markers, as long as there is a overlap of scanned areas. It is also quicker to reposition. Should be able to scan with Raptor over several hours(thanks to global markers), with several breaks in between?. Just some 💭
Yes, you can relocate the magnetic markers after completing one panel and leave some for over lapping area (20% at least) 500 pcs would be enough for scanning panel by panel. Set resolution to 1.0 - 1.2 mm for panel scanning.
I don't understand why don't they integrate Otter NIR technology into Raptor, so you can have single device capable for best results in different case scenarios.
I think so, there're space available on Raptor body where they can put those in. Creality released 3 scanners in less than a year. I think they're up to something in this business.
Price of the Raptor X is now $4599
Currently, it prices 3,599 USD on their online store, probably a promotional price.
@ I just checked again on the US site, $4,599. I think the promotion is over.
@@brettturnage533 You're right, the price for ASIA is 3599 USD and USA is 4599 USD. Probably the Trump's tax thing?
@ You know what very possible. I swear two days ago it was still 3599, but then looking yesterday and it jumped up.
@@Payo-TensileCreator I think you nailed it on the head! I just tried the Canadian store and the same item is $3,100 if converted into US dollars.
raptor have only wired connection.
The Wi-Fi handle costs 391 USD.
The only downside to these scanners is Creality's approach to customer service. I ordered my scanner on December 7th, and according to the information provided, it was supposed to be shipped on December 20th. I added other products to my cart that were listed as available, but it turns out they were out of stock. As a result, instead of shipping the scanner as promised, the entire order has been stuck. Despite sending multiple emails to customer support, I haven't received any real assistance, only being told to be patient. It's frustrating that a purchased product needs a month to ship and there's no way to modify the order; the only options are to cancel it entirely or wait. It doesn't matter how good a product is if you have to wait weeks for it.
then please be patient. It's christmas time and everyone is buying stuff online..
@@Dotec3D it is not about Christmas it is about missleading information about products, if something is not in stock it should be shown on page and if you try to ask to correct your order it should be possible not by saying "be patient" and order was made on December 7th
@@MrMPod products are shipped from different companies.
Sorry to hear that, I've passed your comment to Creality, they've got your feedback.