Bang and Olufsen Beolab 8000 speakers transformed - A complete new look in less than 5 minutes!
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Bang & Olufsen fans, your journey starts here! Steve from Sounds Heavenly takes up the challenge to upgrade the looks of a 25 year old Bang and Olufsen Beolab 8000 speaker in less than 5 minutes, making it a perfect match for B&O's new product range in 2020..........
Please add a comment to say which of the three options mentioned in the video Steve should choose!
Video update: A better way to remove the speaker covers is to push the edge of the cover in while prying on the sides. There is a bit of foam on the right and left side of the Beolab 8000s which acts as a spring to hold the cover in place. If you press on the cover, you compress the foam. This means you don’t even hear the click when removing the covers - please see here for full instructions: forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/4...
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Thanks for watching! Every cable you ever need for your B&O system can be seen on Steve's website here: soundsheavenly.com If these videos have helped you to enjoy your Bang and Olufsen products, please consider buying Steve a coffee at www.buymeacoffee.com/soundsheavenly - many thanks! PLEASE NOTE THAT THE COMPANY WHO SUPPLIED THE WOOD COVERS SHOWN IN THIS VIDEO HAVE CEASED TRADING SINCE THE VIDEO WAS RECORDED, SO THESE COVERS ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE AS OF DECEMBER 2023.
From where I can buy this wooden grills
You can get them at prestigecreators.co.uk
This guy's presentation style would make me willingly sit through watching him read the phone book.
Thank you! That made me smile and cheered up my day! ;-)
I agree, his mannerism and knowledge makes his information so easy to listen and absorb
@@1Lord.J.C Thank you!
1 year later and we still love watching this video you made reviewing our Oak covers for the Beolab 8000. And we have finally made our own you tube chanel.
Superb, I will check out your new channel! Your new Beolab 5 wood covers look very nice!
Cheers Guys I've just ordered the white oak frets I'm also mounting a pair of Townshend audio super tweeters on top of the newly fretted 8000s, I don't think I'm gonna need 18s for a few years yet!!
Thanks Steve and Demetri 👍👋👋
Great video Steve!! Many thanks for the ULTIMATE BANG & OLUFSEN plug!! I think I need a set of these in my life! :)
Thanks! The Ultimate B&O Facebook group was where I heard about these covers, it is a great place to find out all the latest B&O news!
I just wanted to say a huge THANK YOU to everyone who has watched the video so far, I was amazed to see that this got over 1,800 views in the first 24 hours 😮 also, thanks for all your feedback and comments! Any suggestions for other B&O-related products that you would like me to review please?
Beolab 2000! :)
Now that is an interesting product......maybe not B&O's finest hour in terms of sound or styling though?
@@soundsheavenly Exactly why I thought it would be interesting to take a look at it! And to see how well it performs! It's also very cheap to acquire nowadays!
@@Jondedy Yes, they are a good little speaker for their current values, but limited for connectivity. Beolab 7-1 will give you a much bigger sound at a similar cost, unless you are specifically looking for a Masterlink speaker.
@@soundsheavenly I'd love a 7-1 but they go for around 150 euro's here in the Netherlands where as the 2000 goes for around 20-25 and I actually got mine for 10!
Smoked oak every-time i have a set and they look amazing really brings this legendary speaker into the 2020's
Yes, they really do look great! I think the smoked oak is also my favourite....
hello Steve, good information thanks Dion from Holland
Thanks Dion!
What a splendid idea to make these lamella update options! Personally I think I would prefer the natural oak, but the smoked oak version also looks fine.
I will give you a proper challenge to update the Beosound A6 equivalently 🙂
Thanks, that is a great idea!
I vote for the lightning oak. I found the smoked oak to look "dirty" more than anything, and the lightning oak matches the table top well
Thanks! I agree that the lightning oak is a good match to the tabletop in my workshop, but I need to match to the darker wood of my dining room chairs ideally......
It looks amazing, a bit expensive for wood grills but the look is flawless! I’m contemplating getting these and have trouble deciding between mk1 and mk2 but the grills are a must!
These are very high quality grilles, I am very happy with the one that I purchased from www.prestigecreators.co.uk
Very helpful. Thanks a lot
Thanks! Please subscribe for many more videos like this one!
Love it. Smoked oak all the way. Be amazing to see them do something for the Pentas.
Thanks! Now there's an idea....... Wood frets for Pentas!
Great work 👍 beautiful
Thanks!
Great video Steve. My votes on the smoked! Do they affect the sound in anyway? Any reverberation at high volume? Many thanks.
Thanks! It sounds superb, no effect on the sound that I can hear, no reverberation issues. The smoked oak cover is on at the moment, it looks superb!
both look great so depend on what furniture are in the room :)
Thanks! I agree, they are both great options and a neat way to improve the look of older Beolab speakers
Another thing to consider. If you have vintage B&O systems with rosewood or Teak trim, or if you have one or more of those beautiful rosewood or teak audio cabinets, you may want to consider staining wood fret slats on of those colors to match what you already have. I have 3 rosewood cabinets placed side by side with a teak cabinet on top so I could go either way. I have both color stains as well.
I like that idea! I have some classic wooden speakers in my main living room and I recently stained some of the woodwork in the room to match the speakers.
Hi Steve, great video and reviews! In your opinion which one is better as a home cinema, so for movies watching?
Thanks for your kind words! There are lots of options for home cinema speakers depending on your space and budget. Hence there isn't one simple answer. Please check out my other review videos and see what fits your needs, then I can help with cables when you are ready to connect everything!
I like the smoked oak. I would love to up grade my 8000, since your last tutorial I made my system wireless
Thanks! Glad my video was helpful. Yes, I love the smoked oak cover, I think I will be buying that one!
Steve, whats the best home receiver (for music + bluetooth) that would go well with the Beolab's 8000s? I just sold my Beosound 9000 and wanted to find the best way to keep using the 8000s... thank you so much!
Hi, there are some great options out there at the moment, including B&O's own Core, Sonos Port or Sonos Connect or Bluesound Node 2i. Please let me know which option suits your needs best and I will be pleased to hep with cables to get everything working!
makes a totaly difrent speaker thats awesome i like it a lot!!
Thanks! Yes, I think it looks great!
The smoked oak one of course. Althought the lightning oak is cleaner and you should get matching chairs in stead ;-)
Just realize I'll be having the same issue with my dark wooden furniture....
I guess we need to have to ask Dimitri to make a dark wood version after all.
There seems to be a good choice of wood colours available, I certainly like the smoked oak for my room to match the chairs (wish I could swap the chairs instead though!)
Hi Steve thank you for your very informative videos. I have a pair of beolab 4000 speakers which have a couple of scratches. I was wondering with all your knowledge, could you please advise me on how to restore- erase them. Many thank
Hi, sorry I don't know about repairing speakers or removing scratches, I just make cables! Please ask on the forum at www.beoworld.org as I am sure someone there will know.
Hi Steve,I love the oak however watching you change both over whilst my 8000s with the black mess staring at me. I'd have to say mate on a personal level I'd stick to the amazing design of the original look with the black mess. I love the wood finish however it takes away the iconic look of these beautiful speakers. Just to add in my opinion there is nothing that looks better with the polished aluminium then black.
Just stunning a stunning speaker B&O!
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Thanks, I know the wood covers won't work for everyone, but I love having the choice of fabric or wood. I'm always in favour of ideas like this that can breathe new life into classic B&O designs!
Sure you have to do the smoked oak because of chairs...but I think the lightning oak would be my choice. Irregardless both are great looking...thanks for sharing 👍👍
Thanks, I agree - I do like the lightning oak, shame I don't have another pair of 8000s I can use these these covers in a different room.....
👍🏻For you, smoked oak is te best option. Though it makes beolab 8000 look massive in stead of delicate. For me renewal of the clothing was the best option.
Thanks, I do still love the classic Beolab 8000 cloth grilles, but the new wood covers do work very well
Hi Steve, in addition to my previous question, I nearly forgot. Is it possibe or advisable to have the similar cover on my beolab 4000 speakers? Many thanks
Hi, yes I think Prestige Creators now make similar covers for the Beolab 4000, I suggest contacting them via the link in the video description for more details.
Hi Steve. Going to go ‘against the grain,’ as it were, and say I still actually prefer the original black cloth. The BL8000 is a classic design in its own right. However, between the 2 wooden covers, then the smoked oak looks best to me.
roger dawe Thanks, I do still love the classic Beolab 8000 look, but I’m really excited to see just how good they look with the wooden frets
I am thinking the people who downvote excellent videos like this are the same type of people who give 1 out of 5 stars on Amazon Reviews because the delivery was late.
Thanks Ian! Glad you liked the video ;-)
Ian I agree. With positivity we are always going to have people who cannot agree. Great video Steve
I think the best look for the beolab 8000 is the black mesh but from the wood I liked the Light Oak more
Yes, I also love the original cloth look of the 8000s, but the wood covers are really nice when you see them
Hello Steve, what do you think of Tibo Bone 2 comparing with B&O core for BeoLab 6002 in term of the sound quality and functionality? Many thanks!
Hi, Tibo products are OK for the price but B&O Core is a very high quality product that gives superb sound and works with the excellent B&O app. There is no comparison in my view - the Core is the way to go to give the sound that your B&O speakers deserve.
Lovely, it's a no brainer .
Thanks, yes the wood covers look great and fit really well.
Great look, but does this impact the sound coming out of the speaker?
Ser Loin of Lamm Still sounds great, no impact on the sound, no vibration or rattling 👍🏻
Looks great! Your chair is made in Walnut? Is that a choise? Thanks for intresting videos 🙏 take care
Thanks! I'm not sure if the chair really is walnut, or if that is just a wood stain to give that colour, my good lady wife will most likely know the answer.....
Hello, how are you? I would like to know where can I buy this part that connects the Beolab 18 screen to Beolab 8000? already searched and did not find. if you can help me, I appreciate it.
Hi, please contact www.prestigecreators.co.uk as they make this part (they wood frets they make are unique for Beolab 8000, these are not the same as Beolab 18 frets)
great video Steve and I have just purchased the standard oak but you would be better with the smoked version
Thanks! I agree, the smoked version suits my chairs best, but the lighter oak colour is also very nice
Hi Steve. Have you ever heard about anyone changing the screen in a Beovision 10 to a more modern screen (and LG OLED)? The sound in my old Beovision 10 is amazing, but the picture is a little behind.
Hi, sorry I don't know about repairs or modifications, I just make cables. I suggest asking on the forum at www.beoworld.org to see if anyone there knows.
Def smoke oak to match your set.... tho classic goes with today’s lighter schemes. Btw... just purchased the Beosound Stage... I also purchased a new 4K TV that provides eARC, does any HDMI cable can provide eARC or it has to be a feature of said cable!??? I asked because it seemed and thought that any HDMI that supports ARC should support eARC... but saw a specific HDMI with 48gps(not the standard 18gps) that specifically says that supports eARC. Your input will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks! Beosound Stage is a great product. Most newer HDMI cables (2.0 and above) will support eARC - I have these available here if you need one: soundsheavenly.com/tv-input/55-180-premium-braided-hdmi-arc-20-cable-with-ethernet-for-4k-full-hd-and-beosound-stage.html#/4-length-3m
Sounds Heavenly Hi Steve, thanks for that info, I finally got an answer from Reps that confirm that ONLY HDMI 2.1(needs higher bandwidth up to 38gbs)is capable of eARC, 2.0 only capable of ARC, thanks again and I thought you may want to know.
Hi Steve, talking of upgrading the look of a Beolab 8000, do you know what is the material of the black squared stand? Mine has several scratches and I am not sure about how to fix or hide that, (paint, heat...) Thanks a lot in advance!
Hi, sorry I don't know what this is made of, maybe your local B&O store or repairer can advise further?
@@soundsheavenly Pity, thanks anyway! I will comment if I find it out.
@@fulanito494 Thanks, that would be interesting to find out
Hi Steve, Gary here - a british ex-pat living in Cape Town. My preference is the smoked oak, it really brings them back to life. A quick question... I've just brought my CX100's out of storage and built my home cinema around them. But on hearing them, I checked the drivers and found the glue rot on the 4" drivers, and even a hole on one side. I want to preserve these beauties, but can't afford to spend too much. Do you know if there are any compatible drivers out there? Thanks.
Hi Gary, thanks, I agree on the smoked oak covers! Sorry I don't know about speaker repairs, but I suggest searching for a either "Good Hifi" or "Audio Friends" on eBay, I understand that they offer repair kits for these speakers. Hope you are able to get them working again!
@@soundsheavenly Thanks Steve, much appreciated.
Hello Steve,
What about the mk2 in which the bass seems better but in mk1 its not. Which one do you have or prefer?
Hi, I have the mk.1 speakers and I don't have any complaints about the bass. I haven't heard any major differences between the different versions of Beolab 8000
Looks great with either cover Steve, have you any price information on these please?
Thanks! I don't sell these covers myself, but please contact the supplier directly at www.prestigecreators.co.uk for up to date colour options and pricing information
Sounds Heavenly Many Thanks 😊
Hello and congratulations on your channel, it's fantastic. I have beolab 8000 and I want to connect a Bluetooth, which team you recommend to get the most out of the speakers.... Thank you and greetings
Thanks! I suggest trying WiFi music streamers like Apple Airport Express, Google Chromecast Audio or B&O Core instead of Bluetooth, as they give better sound quality. Please let me know which product you choose and I can help with cables to connect the speakers!
@@soundsheavenly I have an iPhone, so I thought the Apple AirPort express would be a good option, which cables would need.... Thanks a lot
@@michelmontero3415 No problem! This cable will connect two Beolab 8000 speakers to an Airport Express for great sound: soundsheavenly.com/line-in-connection/77-241-minijack-to-beolab-line-in-using-phono-rca-sockets-one-cable-for-two-speakers.html#/2-length-1m
@@soundsheavenly thanks very much
I bet it's the same with actual B&O covers, smoked oak looks better on camera but the normal oak looks better in real life :p On that basis I would choose the normal oak version. Great video once again! You should keep the wood in your life ;)
Thanks, I would choose the normal oak if I didn't need to match to the dining room chairs, but I think it will have to be the smoked oak for that room
Nicely done, I have the same speakers, maybe an idea to upgrade them as you did, what is the impact on the sound ? btw I have also Beolab 9's do you have a review on those, and I want to thank you for the cable for my old Beolabs 6000 works perfectly now with my Sonos connect....
Thanks for your kind words and for your purchase, I'm glad the cable is working well! I didn't notice any impact on the sound from adding the covers, the speakers still sound great. By the way, Beolab 9 review to follow soon.....
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Where did you get these covers from? Thank you
Hi, the covers came from prestigecreators.co.uk/ and full details are in the video description
Looks great but how does it affect the sound? Since the Beolab 8000 are designed for a mesh fabric, I can’t imagine this grille is acoustically transparent?
I couldn’t find any difference between the cloth and wood grille in terms of the sound. With the wood there is nothing blocking the speaker drivers when you are sat in front of the speakers
@@soundsheavenly I thought the slats would block some of the sound or create sound wave distortions, but that’s great to hear! Thanks! I just picked up a pair of Beolab 8000 for €500,
and your videos have been a huge help for me!
That is a good price 👍🏻 glad my videos have been helpful!
I prefer smoked oak.
You're a nice guy Steve!
Thanks! I also like the smoked oak best
Looks awesome! I hope you don't experience any vibration rattles from that new cover when listening to the speaker.
Thanks, it looks superb in the flesh, even better than it appears on video. No vibration or rattles, sounding great.
I bet slatted wood would greatly improve the looks of a Penta too! You can find several pairs of slatted oak to fit the Beolab 4000's for around $550. One thing for sure, to do this would be very expensive.
Wow, that is an interesting idea! I have the slatted wood grilles on my Beolab 8000 from Prestige Creators and they look superb!
@@soundsheavenly I never found the penta's to be an attractive set of speakers. But consider the decade it came out of. I dont care for metal either steel or aluminum unless there is some wood grain with it. I wish I had the ability and talent to do a make over from scratch because they need a visual upgrade.
I know what you mean, they were very much a product of their era. I love them as they made a big impression on me as a 13 year old, but they were very different from the traditional B&O styling, so not to everyone’s taste.
Smoke oak for sure 👍👍❤️🍀🔊
Yes, I do like this colour 👍🏻
Hi, Can the BeoLab 8000 connect with the BeoRemote Halo? Thank you
Hi, Halo is a remote control only, but for any connection questions please get in touch at soundsheavenly.com for assistance (UK and Europe only)
Hi Steve How can i buy the wood cover that you have shown here.
Unfortunately the company who made these covers are no longer in business. This is a shame as their products were excellent
Would love to see the belabor 5's when they are out
Thanks, I hope to be able to make a video on these when they are ready
11 months later, we have finally developed and launched the oak covers for the Beolab 5’s. Please check out our video and website: www.PrestigeCreators.co.uk we look forward to hearing from you. Thanks
Hi, how well does the beolab18 cover fit to the 8000?
Hi, the genuine Beolab 18 grille does not fit Beolab 8000 at all. In this video, I reviewed an aftermarket grille which is designed specifically for Beolab 8000, not for Beolab 18. The two speakers are different sizes and shapes.
Do you have a solution for Beo Lab 5 calibration problem. It start with the speaker push out a little and a low bass then stop and speaker push back in?
Hi, this sounds like a fault on the speaker, I suggest contacting your local B&O dealer to arrange to have the speaker repaired
@@soundsheavenly i did , they cannot fixed it and charged me $280.00 for trouble shoot time and corrupt my eeprom ( cannot turn on the speaker).
Sorry to hear that. I don’t know anything about repairs unfortunately
Hi. Where can I buy the wooden front?
Hi, you can get these at prestigecreators.co.uk/
Where can you get these wooden covers? :)
You can get them at www.prestigecreators.co.uk - I can recommend them!
Hi . How can o get these oak covers from ?.
You can get them at prestigecreators.co.uk
How big is the influence on the sound?
There is no effect on the sound at all that I can hear
Hi Steve. I find your channel some days before. Today i Drive nearly 1000 km to buy two beolab 5000 without elekticity and two with the electicity part beyond. Ist is your foult 😂😂. Next year i finish the middle etage of my house, so i can use them.
But i was afraid to wait Til next year to by them on ebay😂😊.
Your channel is great and i have seen that you have a shop. I will watch the video 2-3 times more, behause of my bad englisch and will Write down the address of your shop.
Old oak Looks Reallohn old, so i prever the ohne who is cleaner.
Many greats from germany, Carsten Klein from Villa Petersberg
WhatsApp about the sound? Still ok?
Hi Carsten, I am pleased that you found my video! Please get in touch at soundsheavenly.com if you have any questions and I will be happy to help (sorry I don’t have WhatsApp) - my shop is a website only
- I don't have a street shop...
Wonder how the sound changes.....
No change to the sound at all that I can hear (and I listen very carefully!)
the second oak much clean
Thanks, I do like the lighter oak version, but I may need to go for the darker oak to match my chairs....
@@soundsheavenly number of the teeth of the comb holding wooden blades (maybe too many) was beter whit minus 1or 2 pieces for that darc color.
Thanks! I suggest speaking to the guys at www.prestigecreators.co.uk and they can advise if this is possible
Do they do them for the 6000
Yes they do! Please check out www.prestigecreators.co.uk for details
An idea of sort of cost would be good even if ballpark.
You can see full details and current prices at www.prestigecreators.co.uk but at the time of writing the covers cost £445 per pair
Smoked Oak for sure, maybe the lightning oak looks better in real, but looks kinda cheap or basic to me.
Yes, I prefer the smoked oak as well
Go smoked. But how does it effect the sound?
Thanks! There is no effect on the sound at all that I can hear, the speakers look and sound great with the oak covers fitted!
Maybe the sound would be distinguished different from different materials, maybe oak could be warmer and clearer.
I didn't hear any difference in the sound due to the oak grille, but maybe someone with better ears than my might hear a difference!
You can also buy replica lens, tried them?
Hi, no I haven’t tried these yet
@@soundsheavenly Is the sound the same with the wooden fronts?
Yes, exactly the same as far as I can tell
Love the lamella look. The top however looks ugly with the plate.
Yes, I know what you mean, this does improve once the wood is adjusted to sit flush with the polished speaker top
Light oak!
Thanks, I like the light oak, but I think I need the darker colour to match my chairs....
Smoked oak👍
Thanks! (I agree!)
Go walnut Steve 👍🏻
Thanks! The smoked oak is very close to a walnut finish, they look to be a good match to the dining room furniture
You mentioned a BL5 upgrade to match BL50.. any news on this? Think I’d probably order matt black grilles for both my 5s and 8000s if available..
I think they are working on this at the moment, please contact www.prestigecreators.co.uk directly for details of the Beolab 5 covers - I hope to have a video on these once they are ready!
Smoked oak, no doubt! :)
Hey Adrian, good to see you here! ;-) Look forward to catching up over a coffee when normality returns.....
@@soundsheavenly I stalk you here, I stalk you there!
@@AdrianNelson1507 ;-)
Smoked Oak Steve.
Thanks, I agree!
The original black clothes are the best.
With the wooden cover it look strange to me, same like these lamborghini Diablo Replika from the 80's
Hi, thanks for your reply. The wooden cover may look unusual on camera, but it really does look good in person!
@@soundsheavenly PLEASE TELL ME WHICH ONE SHOULD I GO THE REPLICA OR ORGINAL WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN SOUND QUALITY
@@pramesh6175 There is no difference in sounds quality, but I prefer the looks of the wood frets, that is what I chose for my Beolab 8000
@@soundsheavenly Thank you very much please suggest where to buy
@@pramesh6175 You can get these covers at www.prestiagecreators.co.uk
You still miss the lens on the upside so it's not looks the same
I agree, not a perfect match for Beolab 18, but then that wasn’t the intention. Instead, it gives a modern style at a fraction of the cost of replacing the speakers, whilst keeping the B&O look. I like them, what do you think?
Go with the litter colour much nicer
Thanks! I do like the lighter oak, but I think I will need to go for the darker one to match my chairs....
The price tag is .... Well I'll try to be polite .... At a level were I would probably sell the old speakers and buy a second hand pair of 18's ....
Good point....these are not cheap. However, the quality is superb. I didn't mention the prices in the video as I'm not selling them myself, I guessed that people who are interested would click through to the supplier's website to check the covers out. I will be buying the smoked oak cover for my speaker - I feel that it is worth investing the money in these speakers (considering that Beolab 8000 cost almost £3,000 a pair in 2009), but you need to make your own decision here
Anyone else asking for this for theirs beolabs9? For 200 euros...
That could be interesting, I wonder how Beolab 9 would look with wood covers?
Any discount code going Steve :)
Sorry, not that I know of. I'm not affiliated with the supplier of the grilles, I just wanted to recommend them as I was so happy with their product.
er...what do the speakers sound like?!
Exactly the same as they do with cloth grilles! Please check out the sound test video on my channel to hear these speakers alongside Beolab 6000
Lightning oak
Thanks, that was my own choice as well!
beocovers.com is also a way to give your speakers a new fresh look 🤩
Good call! I would be interested to see what Beocovers can do, I have heard good things about their work.....
Sounds Heavenly I'm considering new covers for my Beolab 1 speakers in white. And with my white walls, they will become virtually invisible 🙈 I hope so 🤗
I hate the wood covers and I love the original.
Fair comment, the original design is iconic and still looks great. I prefer my wood covers.
Whilst these new covers are nice I’d stick with the original David Lewis design.
I have them both and although intriguing (it looks fantastic ) I'll stick with the original look.
I still love the original David Lewis design, but the wood lifts it and makes it appear to sit more lightly in the room
Never liked lamella look.David Lewis design rules.
I still love the 8000 look but this wood finish does make the speaker appear to sit more lightly in its surroundings.
@@soundsheavenly Oh,yes.How it is sitting in surroundings is most important.I still prefer alu-black combination.