honestly, please keep this series up. as someone who loves the lore and history behind c dramas it's nice to know what's been changed and what's not been changed as a non native. it's hard to distinguish the little things like this when it comes to history and always very interesting!
The First Opium War began on September 4, 1839, and lasted until 1842, involving military engagements between the British Empire and the Qing dynasty of China.
They too had it until... during majority of buddhism was there until an emperor from quing dynasty destroyed 40,000 Buddhist temples,melted all gold,silver,bronze statues of buddha and made whatever he wanted, burned & destroyed all manuscripts and inscriptions.forcefully converted monks and nuns to confuciasm.... Whoever denied was given an cruel death. Then came the modern day china CCP government who is atheist 🙄
We have many different kinds of namaste in fact . Standing, bending , kneeling, half kneeling+ bending and completely prostrating with clasped hands , as well as touching feet. Then there is touching forehead and chest subsequently.
The kowtoe modern Chinese girl showing is like hi, which is done worldwide popular and done with friends,but not to elders. For elders, it was kind of disrespect. Ancient way was OK with elders. In Nepal, we do namaskar, namaste to all age people, and if we like to relatives also. We also say it pranam, and Darshan . For elders, boys for own patenalside elders bows head on elder's feet, boys simply do namaste, or Darshan only to maternal side elders. Boys also simply do namaste only to in- laws side elders. Boys also greets by bowing head to the foot of, daughter, sister, niece only, irrespective of age. Girls usually greets elder's, by namaste and by bowing head to elder's hands. Girls only touch husband's feet, mom-in-laws feet, husband's sister'feet, and her daughter feet. And gor other in-laws, girls only do namaste or Darshan and jita. If girl mistakenly touched her feet with her younger sister, then she also bow /hand to touch younger sister's feet. Some people in would do danda pranam to kings, and gods. Danda pranam is pranam, which is done by people by laying straight down to earth or faced toward earth (not on back side), and bow.
Qin Dynasty Epic, Virtuous Queen of Han Dynasty, Empress of China (on Wu Zetian the Empress of Tang Dynasty), Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, Dream of the Red Mansion, Water Margin (Four Great Chinese classics), Kangxi Dynasty, Yongzheng Dynasty, Investiture of the Gods, etc…..
Farewell My Concubine Green Firecracker Red Firecracker Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (common) Raise The Red Lantern The Joy Luck Club(modern but good) Old Gong Li movies are a great start. Leslie Chan has good movies too.
I love history, and i wanna thank you for making these videos!! I have a question, and i hope i dont sound disrespectful. In the Qing, I've seen ladies wear Manchu Platform shoes. I'd love to know more about the social hierarchy on who was able to wear them. For example, was it only women who were the families Manchurian. Also, if some could provide me links to videos on RUclips about the different traditions when people were in mourning when a family member died or when a member of the royal family died. I would love to know more about Chinese culture through their history. I'm Mexican American, and when i was in school, the teachers i had never really discussed or went over any type of ritual or traditions that commoners faced when a king died. I think the reason for this is that i wasn't in any advanced history classes, so my questions have gone unanswered for years.
Chinese culture: the soldiers have a way to great the emperor, Concubines have a way, normal people have a way and another way to great each other. Arabic culture: anyone greats anyone the same way- "salam alaykum" is enough😂😂😂😂
It's not so much as 'arabic culture'. But in general, Muslims not only greet each other that way, but also with two-to-two hand-to-palm handshake (but this is only with the same genders, or blood-related family). And if juniors/youngs meet seniors/elders or wives meet husbands, they do this handshake but with the addition of kissing the back of the hand. The cheek to cheek or nose to nose gesture is more cultural than religious though.
@@ms.chuisin7727 please tell me what you know about that or recommend me some resources, I might be wrong but what I ment is that it is not that complicated as in Chinese culture...
@@sara-ut4bh You know that Arabic history exists before Islam right? So learn the history. Before they're muslims, they do bow to the Kings until it was prohibited. Google is free, use that maybe?
@@MollyHJohns I was about to ask for the kiss on the cheek thing as I was caught off guard when I first met my cousin's wife. But then, they are Muslims but not Arabic. Now I need to check if there are other religions in Arabic culture. Thanks.
It's like the bow and curtsey where a bow is 90 degree angle but for a woman who used to wear dresses back then, a bow like that can accidentally be exposed the behind or may look inappropriate do to supposedly vulgar position (the bend over position) so curtsey bow eliminated the women from bowing full down while still maintaining the women's integrity and modesty yet still giving respect to the one that were bowed to.
No actually. (Speaking as a Chinese) He didn't mention it, but it's bcuz women wear complicated, heavy, headdresses back then and a full bow may risk causing them to fall apart and look indecent. That's the true reason. It's common knowledge in the Chinese community. I'm not sure why he didn't mention it.
@@songyu1356 I think because the main topic is about how c drama historical are not accurate to the real historical Chinese so maybe he didn't go that far of a detail.
@@J-R-2000 But it works by the same logic tho, highborn women don't bow to prevent the headpieces from falling off. Lower class women do, so what you said is not true.
@@songyu1356 ah that's not I meant, my last comment is referring to your question about how the narrator of the short did not say any more information about the effect of women's fashion to their bows and greetings. I did not disagree with your comment.
Imagine falling asleep, waking in an Qing dynasty royal harem, and your only knowledge of custom was from watching Ruyi's Royal Love in the palace on a constant repeat cycle for the past 3 1/2 years 😂😂😮
i suggest you check out the channel "Accented Cinema". He's an American Chinese who explains (mainly Chinese) films to Western audiences, and recently his works included quite a few introductions to Chinese historical and period dramas and how to get started
Hey! Love your videos. Can you give us any context on what happened to Nü Ze? The woman courtly etiquette book written by Empress Zhangsun? Everywhere online it says it is missing. I see it mentioned a lot in C dramas. I really want to read it!
The 'Nüzé' was a personal guide made by Empress Changsun and she told palace staff not to let the emperor see it. The emperor (Li Shimin) read it only after her death. unlike the more familiar Confucian values, the book shares stories of ancient palace consorts; the book also commented on each consort and set standards for being a good one. The book is lost, and people could only get the information about this book from texts like 《旧唐书》《新唐书》《资治通鉴》(Old Book of Tang, New Book of Tang and Comprehensive Mirror to Aid in Government) It likely disappeared because it focused on palace life, not ordinary people, As dynasties changed, it became less important. This is what I know and I still have much to learn, but I hope it helps you.
ruclips.net/video/F1LZMtkJTWk/видео.htmlsi=6Gh4IXr15KabWQi_ It translate to The empress dowager of the two palaces. But when I type it in, there is no proper result. But this is where the clip is from
I watch all Cdramas showing up on my phone. I love them because of sceneries, clothing, historical ryte, fights of martial arts style mixed with romance and fantasy.....I always wondered how much is true, i.e. strict rules in forbidden city, severe punishment for little mistake, ....why they show so much cruelty, why excessive spitting of blood? How come that the doctors check only on pulse and put diagnose?
?! ..., everybody greets like that, just try it respectfully without the drama effects and neeling,, with a head nod, I am sure it will ring a bell immediately
I'm not really sure but its probably because the first opium war in the late 1830 until the early 1840 which resulted in the decline of imperial china and with china become more open to global therefore the beginning of modernization
Before 1840 China was seen as a powerful empire surrounded by vassal states like Ryukyu, Korea, and Vietnam The country was rich in resources self-sufficient and didn’t need to import any goods from other countries leading to a large trade surplus with Britain. China's influence on the world was obvious with European fascination with Chinese culture also known as Chinoiserie and the American Revolution sparked by conflicts with the British over a ship of Chinese tea To reverse the trade imbalance Britain finally came up with opium to China and the Qing Dynasty refused leading to the First Opium War in 1840 where China was defeated This loss disrupted the balance in Chinese society In the Second Opium War China was almost crushed by the British and French forces shocking the nation and forcing the Chinese to learn Western technologies, political systems, philosophies, culture and more This period is considered the beginning of modern Chinese history which is why everything before 1840 is referred to as ancient in Chinese textbooks
honestly, please keep this series up. as someone who loves the lore and history behind c dramas it's nice to know what's been changed and what's not been changed as a non native. it's hard to distinguish the little things like this when it comes to history and always very interesting!
😁 Thank you for waking up early or staying up late to bring us this vid.
I didn't realize why you said so at first, until I saw his outfit 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Any time!
Him on a random saturday: This information has to reach the world RIGHT NOW !
@@MissNulisur comment make me to look at him, I don't realize it.
love your outfit with the pillow and eye mask today 😂
bro spent 3 days awake just researching about this topic because of just how forgotten this ancient tradition is
He came in style ❤❤😂😂😂😂
I didn't even notice😂
This is I think winter fashion.
1840 is an oddly specific year.
That's the onset of the Opium War (the beginning of the century of humiliation)
@@goonhoongtatt1883 makes sense
The First Opium War began on September 4, 1839, and lasted until 1842, involving military engagements between the British Empire and the Qing dynasty of China.
i am always amused how many different kinds of greeting gestures the chinese have come up with. meanwhile, we have the one namaste:-)
They too had it until... during majority of buddhism was there until an emperor from quing dynasty destroyed 40,000 Buddhist temples,melted all gold,silver,bronze statues of buddha and made whatever he wanted, burned & destroyed all manuscripts and inscriptions.forcefully converted monks and nuns to confuciasm....
Whoever denied was given an cruel death.
Then came the modern day china CCP government who is atheist 🙄
We have many different kinds of namaste in fact . Standing, bending , kneeling, half kneeling+ bending and completely prostrating with clasped hands , as well as touching feet. Then there is touching forehead and chest subsequently.
Meanwhile the rest of us just have *_"head nod"_*
@@Some_guy_passing_by and many of them are still used, unlike the greeting the video talked about. Not sure how that comment got so many likes.
Well not really. The victorian times had an entire fan language.
The kowtoe modern Chinese girl showing is like hi, which is done worldwide popular and done with friends,but not to elders. For elders, it was kind of disrespect. Ancient way was OK with elders. In Nepal, we do namaskar, namaste to all age people, and if we like to relatives also. We also say it pranam, and Darshan . For elders, boys for own patenalside elders bows head on elder's feet, boys simply do namaste, or Darshan only to maternal side elders. Boys also simply do namaste only to in- laws side elders. Boys also greets by bowing head to the foot of, daughter, sister, niece only, irrespective of age. Girls usually greets elder's, by namaste and by bowing head to elder's hands. Girls only touch husband's feet, mom-in-laws feet, husband's sister'feet, and her daughter feet. And gor other in-laws, girls only do namaste or Darshan and jita. If girl mistakenly touched her feet with her younger sister, then she also bow /hand to touch younger sister's feet.
Some people in would do danda pranam to kings, and gods. Danda pranam is pranam, which is done by people by laying straight down to earth or faced toward earth (not on back side), and bow.
The three kneels and nine bows have been around forever in China, and not just the last couple of hundred years.
I look forward to these video clips, I’m wanting to learn more! With each subject you share with us I start digging deeper. ❤
Love how you give education about China History... ❤
I love all of their different kinds of greetings...
I've always wondered about this greeting! I'm so glad you talked about it.
Would LOVE to see a high production movie drama from ancient China 😍 uff!!❤
Theres lots on you tube
Qin Dynasty Epic, Virtuous Queen of Han Dynasty, Empress of China (on Wu Zetian the Empress of Tang Dynasty), Romance of the Three Kingdoms, Journey to the West, Dream of the Red Mansion, Water Margin (Four Great Chinese classics), Kangxi Dynasty, Yongzheng Dynasty, Investiture of the Gods, etc…..
Farewell My Concubine
Green Firecracker Red Firecracker
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (common)
Raise The Red Lantern
The Joy Luck Club(modern but good)
Old Gong Li movies are a great start. Leslie Chan has good movies too.
I love history, and i wanna thank you for making these videos!! I have a question, and i hope i dont sound disrespectful. In the Qing, I've seen ladies wear Manchu Platform shoes. I'd love to know more about the social hierarchy on who was able to wear them. For example, was it only women who were the families Manchurian. Also, if some could provide me links to videos on RUclips about the different traditions when people were in mourning when a family member died or when a member of the royal family died. I would love to know more about Chinese culture through their history. I'm Mexican American, and when i was in school, the teachers i had never really discussed or went over any type of ritual or traditions that commoners faced when a king died. I think the reason for this is that i wasn't in any advanced history classes, so my questions have gone unanswered for years.
I love this content please keep going
I watch c dramas for the costumes. They're so beautiful
They’re all very beautiful.
!? Before 1840 as ancient? I thought anything before 1800 was ancient!
Historical, you mean
Vintage is 30+ years
Historical/antique is 100+
Anchient is close to 500 years AT LEAST
@@Mycopoks hell naw, i thought historical or antique is some 100 to 2000 years, ancient is at least 2000 years in my book
@@nitsu2947 probably. For Western world, we can assume that anything before birth of Christ is anchient
Anything before 1990 is ancient, sorry.
the way it works is that 1840 can be seen as a mark for the passing of a feudal system to our current modern one.
Interesting! I also love the Legend of Zhen Huan haha
I watch a lot of dramas and I didn’t see them greeting each other like this
Chinese culture: the soldiers have a way to great the emperor,
Concubines have a way, normal people have a way and another way to great each other.
Arabic culture: anyone greats anyone the same way- "salam alaykum" is enough😂😂😂😂
I think you might need some history lesson
It's not so much as 'arabic culture'. But in general, Muslims not only greet each other that way, but also with two-to-two hand-to-palm handshake (but this is only with the same genders, or blood-related family). And if juniors/youngs meet seniors/elders or wives meet husbands, they do this handshake but with the addition of kissing the back of the hand. The cheek to cheek or nose to nose gesture is more cultural than religious though.
@@ms.chuisin7727 please tell me what you know about that or recommend me some resources, I might be wrong but what I ment is that it is not that complicated as in Chinese culture...
@@sara-ut4bh You know that Arabic history exists before Islam right? So learn the history. Before they're muslims, they do bow to the Kings until it was prohibited. Google is free, use that maybe?
@@MollyHJohns I was about to ask for the kiss on the cheek thing as I was caught off guard when I first met my cousin's wife. But then, they are Muslims but not Arabic. Now I need to check if there are other religions in Arabic culture. Thanks.
As Indian I respect Chinese culture🙏🏻
We need more snf longer videos about it please
It's like the bow and curtsey where a bow is 90 degree angle but for a woman who used to wear dresses back then, a bow like that can accidentally be exposed the behind or may look inappropriate do to supposedly vulgar position (the bend over position) so curtsey bow eliminated the women from bowing full down while still maintaining the women's integrity and modesty yet still giving respect to the one that were bowed to.
No actually. (Speaking as a Chinese) He didn't mention it, but it's bcuz women wear complicated, heavy, headdresses back then and a full bow may risk causing them to fall apart and look indecent. That's the true reason. It's common knowledge in the Chinese community. I'm not sure why he didn't mention it.
@@songyu1356 I think because the main topic is about how c drama historical are not accurate to the real historical Chinese so maybe he didn't go that far of a detail.
@@J-R-2000 But it works by the same logic tho, highborn women don't bow to prevent the headpieces from falling off. Lower class women do, so what you said is not true.
@@songyu1356 ah that's not I meant, my last comment is referring to your question about how the narrator of the short did not say any more information about the effect of women's fashion to their bows and greetings. I did not disagree with your comment.
@@J-R-2000 My apologies, I never intended to be hostile. Was only speaking matter-of-factly.
I ♥️ Ruyi and Jia
It’s amazing that there are very old film of this action!
Like your outfit. Makes it more interesting to learn. 😅
😄
Ohhh fav magic: gotta go with the classic 🔥
Wow, I feel like the 1800s are not really ancient, but then when you think of the 1900s it definitely looks ancient
Interesting. Was this gesture perfomed only during the Qing dynasty?
I watch so many C drama and have been waiting on someone to give me some info on this! Lol no lie!
I take all of it with a grain of salt. There are fight scenes where people fly through the air and fling lightening bolts out of their fingers.
I wish they didn't altered the greetings
Imagine falling asleep, waking in an Qing dynasty royal harem, and your only knowledge of custom was from watching Ruyi's Royal Love in the palace on a constant repeat cycle for the past 3 1/2 years 😂😂😮
I've always wondered about that😅
How cheeze and crackers is THAT WHATS ITS CALLED .! AND WHERE IT CAME FROM.. ALL THOSE CLIPS I LOVE RUYI!!!! GOOD SHOW
Any recommendations for historical C dramas? I haven't seen any before but I'm interested
i suggest you check out the channel "Accented Cinema". He's an American Chinese who explains (mainly Chinese) films to Western audiences, and recently his works included quite a few introductions to Chinese historical and period dramas and how to get started
@@songyu1356 thank you! is he a youtube channel?
@@sophroniel He is!
I think he just came from a flight bro😅
Hey! Love your videos. Can you give us any context on what happened to Nü Ze? The woman courtly etiquette book written by Empress Zhangsun? Everywhere online it says it is missing. I see it mentioned a lot in C dramas. I really want to read it!
The 'Nüzé' was a personal guide made by Empress Changsun and she told palace staff not to let the emperor see it. The emperor (Li Shimin) read it only after her death.
unlike the more familiar Confucian values, the book shares stories of ancient palace consorts; the book also commented on each consort and set standards for being a good one.
The book is lost, and people could only get the information about this book from texts like 《旧唐书》《新唐书》《资治通鉴》(Old Book of Tang, New Book of Tang and Comprehensive Mirror to Aid in Government) It likely disappeared because it focused on palace life, not ordinary people, As dynasties changed, it became less important.
This is what I know and I still have much to learn, but I hope it helps you.
@@AChinesetranslator THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Благодаря 👍
nice
Does anyone know where that clip is from, the one right before the black and white clip and right after the kneeling woman
ruclips.net/video/F1LZMtkJTWk/видео.htmlsi=6Gh4IXr15KabWQi_
It translate to The empress dowager of the two palaces. But when I type it in, there is no proper result. But this is where the clip is from
@@soheesweetheart you’re an angel 😇🤍 thank you
@@yangguifeii you’re welcome love dove 🫶🏾🖤
Can you please give me the names of the series
But in today's world, Chinese people still bow down to show respect
yea but we don't kneel three times and bang our head on the floor (kowtow) nine times anymore as depicted 😂
How about the Confucian's greeting gesture?
I watch all Cdramas showing up on my phone. I love them because of sceneries, clothing, historical ryte, fights of martial arts style mixed with romance and fantasy.....I always wondered how much is true, i.e. strict rules in forbidden city, severe punishment for little mistake, ....why they show so much cruelty, why excessive spitting of blood? How come that the doctors check only on pulse and put diagnose?
When he says lightly tap right side what movie is that?
Nope, ancient China ended after the start of Qin. Qin-Qing is called Imperial, and Republican Era starts the Modern Era.
?! ..., everybody greets like that, just try it respectfully without the drama effects and neeling,, with a head nod, I am sure it will ring a bell immediately
Was this because heavy hair pieces make kowtowing inconvenient? Or is it just because kowtowing for females are different?
Love a good history lesson ❤
1840鸦片战争?
What is kowtowing????
AND,
Why did they wear those Long pointy things on their ring finger and the pinkies????????
tutorial to bow?😮classic😢
In China anything before 1840 is ancient 😂😂😂😂😂 Really?
anything before 1840?
We consider nothing in CE as ancient
Why 1840?
I'm not really sure but its probably because the first opium war in the late 1830 until the early 1840 which resulted in the decline of imperial china and with china become more open to global therefore the beginning of modernization
Before 1840 China was seen as a powerful empire surrounded by vassal states like Ryukyu, Korea, and Vietnam The country was rich in resources self-sufficient and didn’t need to import any goods from other countries leading to a large trade surplus with Britain. China's influence on the world was obvious with European fascination with Chinese culture also known as Chinoiserie and the American Revolution sparked by conflicts with the British over a ship of Chinese tea
To reverse the trade imbalance Britain finally came up with opium to China and the Qing Dynasty refused leading to the First Opium War in 1840 where China was defeated
This loss disrupted the balance in Chinese society In the Second Opium War China was almost crushed by the British and French forces shocking the nation and forcing the Chinese to learn Western technologies, political systems, philosophies, culture and more This period is considered the beginning of modern Chinese history which is why everything before 1840 is referred to as ancient in Chinese textbooks
@@KingofcathayThank you for that brief history lesson, whetting my appetite to learn more about this time in Chinese history!
Thanks @@TreasureBabyMonster00
@@Kingofcathay thank you
1840?! ancient? in china?
Why 1840? What happen in 1840 so anything before it, iis considered ancient?
Oooooo
That’s quite similar to the salute used in modern militaries. I wonder if this is where it came from?
"anything before 1840 is considered ancient"
Dang, then that means that the American Revolution is ancient history by American standards 😭
Heil😅