Hahaha word man Sasuke hunted their asses down so bad they were fed up for real. They always tried to separate both him and Naruto during fights because their chemistry on the battlefield was such a threat.
The thing is sasuke matured. Earlier was sasuke controlled by his emotions of rage,hatred, revenge and self righteousness But now sasuke cares about his village,his sins,and what needs to be done to protect the village Hence,the shadow hokage.
Definitely. Sasuke sacrificing himself for Boruto and Boruto being focused exclusively on saving Sasuke...that is great writing. It means that not only does Boruto have to save the world, he has to save it maybe at the expense of his own wishes to save his sensei. My boy is in the hardest of hard places and all he wants now is to get his life back. A life that he took for granted at every turn. This is what I always thought Boruto should be. Boruto being a rogue and having no help from his parents or friends. I thought that it might have been better if Naruto was forced to exile him for his own good, but damn if Kishimoto didn't come up with a way scarier version of that.
Saskues character build up is literally represented in the story. A tree grows strong, withers in the winter, then comes back stronger in the spring,while the new generation of trees begin to sprout and spread. How long does it take for a tree to grow to its full potential? Give it time.... Saskues plot armor is being repaired lol
these are the exact points I have been arguing to people for so long man, seeing that u understand Kishimoto and how smart he is with certain plot points makes me so happy. Thank you for actually reading whats being worked on. I am so excited to see where this story goes. Great work as usual
Also let me throw this out there: 10 tails jinjuriki naruto using wood release to make a wooden kurama gollum with 1000 fox tails could be an awesome way to pay tribute to the first hokage with sasuke outing his susano armor on it would go hard
Won't happen tho, sasuke is meant to mirror naruto so if naruto did do this sasuke wouldn't coat his susanoo because his susanoo is meant to mirror the kurama avatar or sasuke would get a replacement for susanoo and it just seems a bit complicated to me also because I think they're going to keep the plot point that you keep susanoo after u unlock the ms and it would just he weird to have sasuke inherit a single rinnegan which is what the shinju sasuke has as opposed to some combination of sharingan and rimmegan
@@LuminaryMonochrome i don't understand... Sasuke has already provided the Majestic Attire Susano'o for Kurama. What would be the difference here? I think it'd be completely ridiculous for Naruto to emulate the True Thousand Hands as a Kurama avatar. It'd be cool, for sure... but ridiculous. You may as well just call them Chakra Arms at that point because that's all they would be. The orange coloration of Kurama's chakra would be kind of a moot point by then. I'd rather see Naruto just use the True Thousand Hands jutsu as it was, but maybe incorporate his tried-and-true Multi Shadow Clone into it. Or maybe give each of the hands a Rasengan to smash into the enemy, like a Many Spiraling Spheres attack that Naruto has done in the past but on steroids.
@@dking6950 Talking good about Boruto makes him more money than not talking good about Boruto. Thats why Dygonight is broke and this dude has a house. Speaking the truth rarely pays off, speaking what pays always does
@@dking6950 I agree its a breath of fresh air to have Sasuke have a personality, as one of the most frustrating things about Shippuden Sasuke is that he either had none or was just going insane. One thing I would argue against is the idea that Sasuke is in any way written as a husband, but simply a father who now has the human emotions necessary to try and be a father. Kishimoto has made it clear that Sasuke is not the romantic type, when Kishimoto approved of the filler version of the Sasuke Shinden, almost all the moments from the Light that were clearly written by SasuSaku writer were completely removed, incidents of Sasuke caring for Sakura were, like in Boruto and even sometimes Naruto, merely scenes of him being protective of one of his best friends, as Sakura is one of his closest friends and that is the end of it. As for the ring scene, Sasuke proposed to Sakura as it was simply the most logical thing to him in accordance to rebuilding his clan, and then left Sakura and a newborn Sarada without a second thought for a decade. There's no romance. Sakura was fully aware that Sasuke had no heart for romance when she faked a wedding photo.
He actually understood Sasuke's character after he made that 500k special video. It's hard to understand him when you watch Naruto just to finish it & start new anime or something. He hates Teen Sasuke but not the last & Adult Sasuke, that's what we can see since then
Man this is why I love this channel. I don't really take time to watch anime or have a big interest in it but I grew up with the Naruto universe and have been obsessed since I was a kid. You dig deep, you go beyond what is right in front of our eyes, you see all the storylines in such a unique way to everyone else. People just shit on Boruto because it's not Naruto, pretty much, but here you are, going against the grain, telling us why it's great. And I agree. Thank you for your service 🫡
You get it, I hated Sasuke in OG and Shippuden but through his relationship with Boruto and Sarada he has become one of my faves. Not because of how much he fights or the big feats he does but because of how caring he now is with them. He was central to make Boruto the man he is now, he cares so much for Sarada and Sakura and he has done so much to pay Naruto back for all the shit he put him through.
@@donovan4222 No because it doesn't change his decisions or the thijgs he did do. Its great that he grew past that as a character but it doesn't feel as dynamic or needed that he take that road to develop to where he is now as others did. It felt more like a 180 shift happened after the war arc. Compare that to someone like Zuko in Atla, Scar in FMA, etc where the development in linier and dynamic etc.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I think Sasuke is up there with other great redemption characters in shonen imo. I think he has better and more interesting character development than Naruto just because of the issues with the village/society he attempts to address, which Naruto still kind of has no answer to. Also plz don’t spoil FMA for me because I’m watching that right now lol Scar is just starting to change.
Highkey I feel like this is the way Sasuke should have been written. Despite all of his hardship and despair in his life, he learned to appreciate the people he had, rather than the ones he lost. But unfortunately, Sasuke decided more power was better than coping.
completely agree that sasukes dinosaur story was good for fleshing out his character, he needed it, he was barely present in naruto compared to the rest and was only about revenge, he needs to develop beyond that, i'd even argue that his story in boruto could have been fleshed out more; i really love the one where he goes back in time with boruto too (even though its also a bit dumb) and gets to interact with jiraiya and respect him as a shinobi and not just a pervy teacher naruto used to have; also to talk with young naruto and realise the effect him leaving had on everyone. I love these moments and he is also one of my top favourite characters, I love his development and hope this tree thing does him justice, as with naruto. I do think naruto and sasuke have sometimes been nerfed but defintely agree that if you're trying to protect someone or are fighting a new unknown enemy anything can happen no matter who you beat in the past. Power isnt linear and exponential, you can have good and bad days, strong and weak moments, and distractions like people you love maybe dying especially when you allow yourself to value it (past sasuke didnt value anyone or anything other than revenge) make things harder
Been watching your videos consistently for two years. Finally subscribed, I literally look forward to seeing something new from you on my lunch break. Keep it up ✊🏾
What do you think about Sarada doesn't get blinded cause her ms is different? Ms blinds the user to make the wilder blind to the pain. But Sarada is gonna pursuit the truth, so maybe she has the potential to have a no defective ms, but a perfect ms.
Thank you Nick, thank you 🙏🏻 I am a relatively new fan of the Naruto verse and it’s became my favorite franchise. I argue these exact points constantly! The MAN of all Men to talk Naruto/Boruto, I’m glad you keep speaking highly of Boruto Franchise! KEEP IT UP BROTHER ❤
Nick really went full circle in this video. From verbally ruining Sauksue every chance he had to openly defending him in Two Blue Vortex. That’s massive character development 🙌🏾
It's an incredible story our Masashi Kishimoto is putting together. I don't really have the time or money to get all the manga together for it. But I do have an incredible Nick here to break everything down and allow me to enjoy the story of Boruto. Thank you so much, Nick!
If I’m being honest, when I first heard about Boruto I was initially worried that the sequel to Naruto was staring his son and his friends’ children. The reason was because I knew that Naruto realistically should solve all of his son’s problems. And there shouldn’t be any threats because Naruto brought world peace. And when hate on Burot was at its peak, I began to think that it made more sense that a sequel to Naruto should’ve taken place in an era where the original main cast was long dead. That way, the new main cast didn’t have, as nick put it, “a walking plot device” to solve all of their issues and have Naruto and Sasuke be Legends like 1st hokage and Madara. It would’ve also open the door for Edo Tensei versions of them. But that’s what used to think. Now kishimoto has manage to make the story very compelling and keeps us on our toes every new chapter that comes out.
9:38 Nick is legit losing his marbles man wtf Other than that tho, Sasuke's been great in Boruto. It's a nice change of pace from his angsty edgelord mode from OG Naruto and Shippuden into a somewhat cold but still compassionate and humane personality in Boruto. I don't know how else to say, but he's kinda become a guy that most wouldn't hate to be around.
It's truly unfortunate that actually compelling discourse about Boruto gets overshadowed or completely inhibited by the stuff Nick is referring to in this video. I have friends who I occasionally give updates on the series to and when I explain key moments such as the reveal of Rasengan Uzuhiko, they get caught up on how absurd "Boruto uses the rotation of the earth to make someone dizzy" sounds. While, for me, the concept of Boruto building on the nature of the rasengan: harnessing the power of raw chakra through increibly controlled motion, by relating it to the ever spinning nature of the Earth, and then weaponizing it, is an incredible but subtle progression of the narrative. Thinking about him and Kashin Koji and/or Sasuke meditating on how Boruto can improve his arsenal, and the concept of nature energy flowing in a spiral motion comes up, and they relate that to the Rasengan and philosophy turns into one of the coolest Rasengan variations; just good writing. I do feel like these narrative concepts should be more tangible, but that's an issue with all anime/manga. Theres an amount of digestibility that is required to both be palpable by a wide audience, and to be practical to produce. I think JJk does some revolutionary things with its narrative that every shonen should reflect on in the future, but it can be hard for that to be noticeable through the lens of an action show. Nick ranted for 29 minutes so i feel justified in rambling in his comment section for maybe one or two people to see lol.
lmao cmon bro there’s no way you think the writing is good just because Boruto made a new big Rasengan. You need more than that to have a compelling story. Boruto is one of the best selling manga/anime in the world right now, it does appeal to a wide audience, it’s just that it’s poorly received by most of the original Naruto fanbase. I think the reason for that is it lacks what made Naruto special…there’s no compelling villains, the story feels poorly thought out like it’s being mostly made up as they go along, and the power scaling is so whacky that at the halfway point Boruto is already stronger than all the Kage combined. The traditional Japanese aesthetic is gone, and it’s stuck in this weird in between cyberpunk aesthetic that it feels like it wants to be but doesn’t fully commit to…. There’s no more cool jutsu because everything just gets absorbed or negated, the fights are just 90% Taijutsu, none of the supporting cast can even contribute anything because of the bonkers scaling…these are just a few of my complaints but to each their own.
@@donovan4222 I didn't think it was necessary to explain that giving a single example doesn't mean that I only have a singular reason for finding the narrative compelling. The things that you described having an issue with would contribute to a much better discussion than what the loudest critics are voicing, but I still think they miss the point in some ways. The scaling relative to Naruto was very clearly noted by Nick in this video. This era is very intentionally supposed to be rapidly surpassing the previous. I'm not going to restate all of Nick's points on that. With regards to the relevance of the side cast I do largely agree. Boruto and Kawaki's story is compelling, but the rest of the cast feel like they haven't really had the time or space to come into their characters. I have more to say but I have to go for work and I know I will forget to respond if I don't right now lol
@@TooFast4uzz Sure I agree that fans are dumb and they will usually be bad at criticizing stuff. Star Wars fans are a great example of moronic fans hating bad movies for all the wrong reasons. But I think there are still plenty of people laying out legitimate criticisms of Boruto. I don’t think every generation really surpasses the previous in Naruto because the strongest characters in the series up until Naruto were Madara and Hashirama, who were characters from like 4 or 5 generations ago. Maybe this is just a pet peeve of mine, but I don’t like when the MC is near instantaneously the strongest character in the verse, especially when to get to that point the MC had to surpass Naruto and Sasuke, who are supposed to be god reincarnations that spent the entire series building up to be the strongest of all time. Then they just get surpassed by a 13 year old in one generation? I don’t like that. I would much rather have Boruto and Kawaki surpass Naruto/Sasuke at the end of the show if they are going to do that. Also, similar to JJK, I’d rather see them just have Naruto and Sasuke busy doing something else or have an in story reason for why they can’t help Boruto in every fight, rather than just making Boruto surpass them this early. I think Naruto/Sasuke should be treated similar to Gojo where they are a benchmark for power in the story and no one really compares, while Boruto has to deal with lesser threats and work his way up to their level. Now that every villain is Otsutsuki level, it just feels ridiculous that any regular Shinobi like Sarada or Mitsuki or Shikamaru can contribute to a fight at all.
Saskue character development remindes me of a mixture of Vegeta and Piccolo’s character development. Not exactly the same but it rhymes. I think his character development is spot on and awesome!
Sasuke has the best character development in the story. His philosophy constantly changes in response to the ever-changing shinobi world and his motivations as a character are justified and compelling. I’ll never understand how people hate on Sasuke and ignore his outstanding characterisation just because he’s “edgy” and “emo” .
@@BeefLover11 Well said. I don’t get how people say he was “flip floppy” in his beliefs. That’s not true at all. Every time he changed his motivations he got new information. At first, he wanted to work with his friends to become strong enough to kill Itachi. But then when Itachi beat him down so easily he realized it wasn’t enough and made the decision to go with Orochimaru. Then when he realized he didn’t need Orochimaru anymore, he cast him aside. After he found out the truth of Itachi, he wanted revenge against the leaf village. And after seeing Itachi continue to protect the village even in death he wanted to know why Itachi would go so far so he talked to the hokage. Then he came to his ultimate conclusion of ruling the ninja world as hokage and taking all the hatred upon himself. And to do that he first had to defeat Madara and Obito. Finally, after seeing Naruto not willing give up on him in their final battle, he was brought back to their side and chose to believe in Naruto and Itachi. I don’t see how someone could possibly think Sasuke was “flip flopping” without just completely ignoring the story.
Sasuke has been one of if not the best character in naruto for a long time. I think the problem w sasuke is that bec is a secondary protagonist and we get a lot less of his story as compared to naruto and shippuden we see a lot of his actions superficially. In reality he is remarkably well written
Mmm the next generation thing may usually only reference a few ppl bec hashirama is one of the strongest ppl of all time and so is madara and largely didnt apply until narutos maybe minatos generation.
The gohan take is eh. Gohan usually rounds the end of an arc on the upper end of power relative to everyone else except (but also even tho/when) he is a child. As like a 17/18 yr old he becomes like top 3 in the verse until super and barring fusions. And if you think buu absorbing is fusion then he actually is the strongest non fused character in z. He lives up to his potential but he fumbles closing altercations.
i honestly love sasuke in shipuden and og naruto he was my favorite(I had 15 years when i watched naruto) and right now in boruto he is my second favorite right after boruto
2:35 From what I'm hearing I think people don't want a character's consistency to be sacrificed for character development. Like, if you wanna take a character in a direction, do so, but don't weaken the character, strengthen the adversary. It's unsatisfying to see him struggle with what we know he can do, whether or not he has to because Kishi said so. Suspension of disbelief and all that
I personally, which I know many disagree, don't think Sasuke is really struggling past what he should be struggling with. The fact of the matter is the dude is also Chakra drained, which I get it, is absolutely annoying. But he is constantly using space time abilities which have from the beginning. Been mentioned to require an absorb amount of chakra. I mean if we base it off the statements from the 4th GNW, then even naruto would have only enough chakra to use the ability 3 times. And he has more chakra then basically everyone combined. The being said. I do think Sasuke fights are underwhelming. But I don't think it's as bad as people say. Concidering the show itself is more underwhelming then OG and Shippuden Naruto fights. They don't have the Rizzoli anymore XD
People are often letting perfect get in the way of the good. If I were to sit down and nitpick the story to death I'm sure I could work myself up and steer myself towards a negative opinion even if my initial reaction was positive. I don't like how power creep has "seemingly" made all the other shinobi in the series that aren't named Boruto absolute fodder but as far as writing an interesting and intriguing story I think Kishimoto has done a pretty good job. Maybe it's a radical concept but I'm going to exercise a little patience and see how things turn out regarding my concerns and enjoy the table that Kishimoto is setting. If the wait pays off, great! If not, then I'm going to enjoy what I think's enjoyable and if Boruto isn't scratching that itch anymore there are other media to devote my attention to. Sasuke is certainly more likable in Boruto than he ever was in Naruto and I'm here for it. I'm all for Kishimoto spending more time to develop the relationship between Kashin Koji and Boruto and Boruto and Sasuke. Kishimoto has some nice ingredients to work with so let's see him cook.
Imagine saying this is the best thing kishimoto has written and continue to elaborate on why sasuke being a literal tree is fine. At the end of the day there are 2 Naruto fans. The ones who don't prefer the Ōtsutsuki and those who like their addition. That's genuinely what I feel to be the biggest separation of the series.
Honestly, the biggest issue with Boruto is how quickly it scaled up the threats that Botuto and his team would face. It makes their powers feel less earned because they surpassed what basically anyone in pre-Shippuden Naruto could do basically by their own chunin exam. I like the idea of having the looming threat of the otsusuki going on in the background while Boruto and team face off against threats more their level. Orochimaru and the Akatsuki were a thing since early Naruto, but Naruto and Sasuke basically only fought them to get jobbed or show how far left they still had to go. Kakashi and Jiraya would stand off against them, the third Hokage fought Orochimaru, it wasn't always Naruto facing down the big bad. That was part of what made OG Naruto so good. It clued you in to the bigger threats without ever pretending Naruto would be much more than a distraction. But that doesn't really work on the scale that the Otsusuki are at, because they aren't gonna be releasing Naruto or Sasuke from a jutsu just to dodge a kunai thrown at them, and they're not gonna test the kids for their own pleasure and let the kids go all out, or crush their confidence to convince them to get stronger. They're not gonna give Boruto the chance to flex what he can do cause they wanna put a curse mark on him, he's already got his Karma and Momoshiki didn't search Boruto out to test him for that. That's the thing, they brought the kids into the fights with the big bads and had to make it seem like they weren't totally worthless, so it made the bosses and Naruto and Sasuke feel weaker to not be able to one shot the enemies that were unable to one shot the kids. There was a lot of scaling difficulty with early Boruto cause the writers clearly wanted to establish threats that continued to usurp the power levels of the prior threats from Naruto, but it makes the show come off like if Naruto were to be dragged along with Hiruzen in his fight against Orochimaru, or worse. Maybe as if Kakashi had brought Naruto from the end of the Land of Water arc to the battle against the 10 Tails during the 4th Great Ninja War. Naruto has had a problem with scaling really ever since Naruto had to fight Shukaku and win, and especially as the power levels of Shippuden continuously scaled up and up on an exponential curve. Boruto really needed to take its time rebuilding the curve from the ground up, but it overshot its load, just by having Boruto always there with the God tier threats and not instantly getting taken out or used as a way to finish off Sasuke and Naruto from the word go. Especially with the speed feats people claim Naruto, Sasuke, and their enemies supposedly have. I like that Sasuke got hurt protecting Boruto, but he should basically be constantly having to protect Boruto or Sarada whenever he's fighting within a mile of them cause their enemies should be constantly trying to exploit Naruto and Sasuke's weaknesses of having to protect others and be defense for them. It's one of the reasons I liked the standoff with Code where Naruto was held back by him threatening Shikimaru the whole time. It'd be a boring show if that was literally every fight, but it honestly should be whenever anyone who isn't Sasuke, Sakura, or a handful of others are at the scene of the battles
You...are COOKING! Lots of talk of being narratively intelligent in the video and you show more intelligence in your comment. I think power scaling in boruto is the entire problem with the series. Your comment really expanded on things I never considered.
@@twerkin4jesus499 Thanks, I really appreciate you reading through it and enjoying my comment. Scaling has been an issue with Naruto since around Pain's first fight with Jiraiya and the introduction of Susano'o to me, just cause they had to escalate so far above what happened in those fights by the end of the war (and to make the very few enemies that were Obito, Madara, and Kabuto a legitimate threat for all of the villages and the samurai). But it was fine cause the characters could naturally flow into it. Bortuto resetting the story with a bunch of Genin really had an issue because it was also continuing into that post Kaguya level scaling
I’m not sure if the next generation is always stronger than the last really fits in this, madara, kakashi, itachi, hashirama, and generally anyone who survived the first 3 ninja wars are examples of this. When madara comes back even even remarks that the average power of shinobi has declined since he was alive.
To be honest, I love boruto as a show, but as also a Naruto fan, only complaint I got about boruto which is not utilising other characters, I know Naruto and boruto are the main characters but I just wish rock lee can kill a god by opening an eight gate, the one thing that might guy couldn’t
Can we talk about how all of the villains in Boruto absolutely pale in comparison to Naruto? They all have the same generic bad guy personality with no interesting philosophies or powers whatsoever. Going from villains like Pain, Orochimaru and Madara to bumshiki and dumbshiki and code the doormats is pretty bad.
@donovan4222 momoshiki is literally causing boruto life a living helll right now and we don't need another broken hero Bellshill villain almost all the villains have the same motivations it's boring 😅
@@donovan4222bruh just because the villain is straight up evil and doesn't have a sad backstory doesn't make them bad. Momoshiki and jigen/ishiki are top tier
To be honest is a little weird that Sasuke was captured. For example when Boruto lost his eye protecting Sarada looked really forced. Sarada could easily block that strike or Boruto as many other times. But probably Code ambushed Boruto and Sasuke.
I mean Konan almost won against Obito , if not for the plot device called izanagi. Or how Madara was backstabbed by Zetsu which I think the weakest nammed character I have seen in Shippuden.
I love this video😊 I don’t want anybody else in the story to die. In fact, I want dead characters to come back to life. I know that it will undo stuff for the story. I don’t care. Some of these people deserve a good life. I feel so sorry for the Shinobi they deserve to come back and get a second chance dragon Ball Z style fuck it let’s do it
Nah that’s a really bad idea man no offense but not only would that undo so many things it’d literally ruin more then a few plotlines and lives you’d fundamentally change characters it wouldn’t work
@@Friezit yeah, I think it would change some lives if some of the people who lived with nothing but war finally see a little piece. I don’t understand there’s so much magic in this world why is bringing people back from the dead, so scary Itachi he’s not even that strong now there’s people stronger than him. He doesn’t deserve it he was like 20 he suffered, he deserves to be brought back it happens in stories all the time I know that I’m wrong OK I’ve been reading this story for a long time and I really feel for these fake people. I don’t care about the plot. They deserve some Dragon Ball Z McGuffin.
I agree with most of what you said. My only real issue with Sasuke is I wanted to see him use more of the rinnegan abilities. Pain set the gold standard for rinnegan use. The rinnegan itself is a seriously big deal, but after Pain we don't see much of it being utilized in terms of "flare". I wouldn't change anything in terms of outcome with how the story has gone, I just would have liked to visually see Sasuke make more use of his rinnegon abilities aside from the switching places/teleport. It's like Naruto never showing us that he is using Kurama and never glowing orange. I just wanted to see some of that rinnegon flare, that's all. If anything, harassing Isshiki with an an almighty push to the face when Isshiki gets in Sasuke's face, or using Almighty push to send Isshiki face first into a mountain right before Isshiki can throw a rod at someone with Isshiki getting furious at that "damn rinnegan", or absorbing chakra attacks with the preta path, would have made for some great moments.
I agree with the charkra absorption. It made no sense to me how a person who could absorb chakra is always low on chakra. Its almost like they forgot what the rinnegan actually does. And they can't say he doesn't know how cause he stated in shippuden he knew all the rinnegan's ability
I think Boruto went behind Sasuke's back/disobeyed orders and went to go prematurely fight Code. I think during that time Boruto was getting his ass handed to him being unable to tap into Momoshiki power due to fear of losing control. Boruto probably pulled up to Code and his army and Sasuke jumped in and fought Code. I think Boruto was the one who originally almost got bit by the grime but Sasuke maneuvered him out the way and took the blow/bite from the grime. I think Sasuke had a good 3 to 3 and a half years to train Boruto and then once he became a tree Kashin Koji took over as Boruto's master.
One correction I found in this entire thing is Boruto is not about ninjas, Boruto is definitely more focused on cqc than late shippuden but it is by no means about ninjas, it's pretty much sci fi. Which isn't a bad thing, if people simply disconnected Boruto from naruto they would find it very appealing
1:30 That's Sasuke RETSUDEN, Shinden was already animated in Shippuden..... 2:55 Kishimoto had NOTHING to do with that novel aside from the cover illustration....
this raises the question, can the shinju/claw Grimes use all of the powers of the people they captured? Sasuke got his left arm back but at what cost ?we saw shinju/claw grime Sasuke use Chidori and a transformed blade since Sasuke also uses a sword. but can shinju/claw grime Sasuke also use current and past abilities such as Ems, curse mark, susanoo, can he also use the 6 tome rinnegan abilities?
The true extent of the Claw Grimes's abilities remains shrouded in mystery, with only glimpses of its power revealed thus far. Its ability to wield Chidori and manipulate a transformed blade suggests that it can tap into certain aspects of Sasuke's arsenal, hinting at the potential to replicate his signature techniques. However, whether it can fully harness the complexity of Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities, including Amaterasu, Susanoo, and the six paths, remains a matter of speculation. The question of whether Sasuke has made any sacrifices to regain his arm is equally intriguing. The Claw Grimes's regenerative capabilities imply a potential cost, perhaps a reduction in chakra reserves or limitations on the use of certain powers. Only time and further revelations will shed light on the true nature of this symbiotic relationship and the implications it holds for Sasuke's future as a shinobi.
@@Suto_KoWouldn't the cost of the regeneration be, you know, him stuck in a tree lol. Technically, he isn't meant to escape the tree, it's not like he used some Jutsu to regenerate, he was attacked and stuck in a tree. I feel like the only reason Sasuke's actual body would regenerate, is for the shinju, not Sasuke.
Boruto, as an independent story, is really good, the power scaling is just a little inconsistent. The thing people don't like about Boruto is the Otsutsuki and for being a Naruto sequel.
In Shippuden there are several moments where I really hate Sasuke but in Boruto he is spectacular, apparently he only had to be a father to be a good character
Nick you where right about boruto being a time traveler in Naruto storm connections he goes back in time with toneri to see Naruto as a child and during the war
I don’t think anybody want Sasuke to have the spotlight for a major battle but people also don’t want him to be the embodiment of an out of chakra meme.
Nick this sounds like epso facto or circular logic; If you don't like Boruto, you don't keep up with it > you don't know everything If you don't know everything your opinion is not valid Therefore only people who like something and keep up with it have valid opinions!! You can use that logic to silence criticism or oppress discent in every issue!
Sasuke’s character is not being fleshed out very well in Boruto at all. Just because they are doing character stuff doesn’t mean that the character stuff is done well….his mentor role to Boruto feels very forced and kind of clashes with his role with Sarada. He barely has any conversations with Boruto, and doesn’t teach him much of anything. It doesn’t feel like Sasuke and Boruto have developed much of a meaningful relationship at all, but the time skip just assumes they have one. The relationship with Sakura is also done very poorly…we had 2 entire mangas of Sasuke treating Sakura like sh*t only for them to somehow get together at the end, and then Sasuke is just a deadbeat dad for 15 more years…but we are expected to believe Sakura has some deep love for him? It just makes Sakura’s character seem pathetic and Sasuke seem like a d*ck. And yeah, I know this was supposed to be addressed in the Jurassic park Sasuke novels, but you shouldn’t need an extra light novel for 2 of the main characters of the series to have a believable relationship…if the manga is relying on light novels for character development I don’t think that’s a sign of a good manga. They should be extra reading for people who want to know more details, not required reading for the relationships to make any sense.
Yeah that's basically where I'm at too. Tbh I think I've just grown out of this franchise, a lot of it is not Boruto's problem per se but creative decisions made long ago back in OG Naruto and Shippuden that might be impossible to overcome for some viewers like myself. I'm looking for a kind of story that wasn't there to begin with.
Thank you. I came across a thread where people were debating who should tell Sarada that Sasuke has been bitten… And I’m like… Can we find a way for her to see it for herself? It’s her father for chrissake. I knew Boruto was not well done when I realized I hadn’t shed a single tear yet, like not a single time in a single episode. There was absolutely no point to make Sasuke this mentor character when he has a daughter . No sense whatsoever. Boruto had a whole father he could have developed a relationship with.
@@withlove312 I think the biggest problem is that it feels like Naruto was supposed to end with Shippuden, but they rushed out a sequel without even having a story planned out and are kind of just winging it as they go. Naruto felt like it was constantly building toward a final climax with a definitive ending, Boruto feels like they are just throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks. Also, I think the worst part of Boruto is the lack of interesting villains. One of Naruto’s biggest strengths was the villains with complex motivations, interesting philosophies/personalities, and unique power sets. Now that’s all gone and the villains are just generic alien cyborg bad guys who punch hard and want more chakra. It just feels like Boruto forgot everything that made Naruto special. And the power scaling is out of control, which despite what Nick says, does matter. Imagine how whacky it would be if after the timeskip Naruto already had sage of six paths powers from training off screen, and just dog walked the akatsuki. Pretty unsatisfying, and that’s how Boruto is lol
@@donovan4222 they keep borrowing from Dragon Ball Z not realizing that unlike Dragon Ball Z, Naruto has a supporting cast that fans never got bored of, never got tired of, and wanted to see more of. Benching them was not a wise choice.
This is a good thread. The best they did was the parent/child day episode because it showed how Sarada's feelings could affect him, and it makes sense that they would. Unfortunately, the entirety of Naruto simply wasn't well planned out. That's why in the og series, Itachi used tsukuyomi with base sharingan, because mangekyo wasn't fully developed yet. It's also why we went from the trichotomy of Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura, to Naruto and Sasuke being reincarnations of the 2 sons of a demigod-like figure, and Sakura. The fact that so many things have to be made up for in mini-arcs and whatnot just kinda proves that the author isn't good at managing lots of different characters long term. Or romance lol.
You're the reason I came back around on Naruto and part of why I can look at Boruto without scrunching in disgust (The Special Story in Connections helped me like Boruto along side you). I'm not a Sasuke fan in OG and Shippuden. Glad you make content to inform those about stuff that they didn't know like myself.
Feels like this is also a good mirroring of another plot point the fan base has hated since OG Naruto which is having Sasuke as an antagonist again but actually in the story this time (kind of) lol
I was thinking about the whole shinju situation... And would be fitting to see Might Guy get bitten by a claw grime since he's handicapped and can't escape properly. We would then get a PRIME version of Might Guy shinju form with legs intact. 8 gates sinju would be interesting. Would love to hear your take on the thought :D
I honestly really like Sasuke and boruto because of because all of the character development and I really honestly do agree because people say Sasuke's been nerved and he's really not yes he lost his rinnegan but that's I really enjoy your videos
The space time ninjutsu is valid but probably a little overblown. I mean we're talking about Naruto at the end of war after he was handing out his Chakra like Candy, Fighting Madara, healing/Might Guy, etc
think this the video he cooked the most in. 10/10, 29 minutes of straight heat💀. way to break down how boruto is literally wht ppl have been asking for, but they just don’t want to read it fr
This video has given me a new perspective on boruto. Still not a big fan of it but I guess I've to start from somewhere. Should kishimoto decide to restore Naruto and Sasuke to their formal glory it would be a smart move. One major reason why the show got hates when they were nerfed is because it's a shonen series. Character don't regress but progress to new highs. It will be cool to see naruto looking like hagoromo.
Nick is doing a lot of yelling in this video. I kinda like it. Wait... Why do I like it...? Do I like being yelled at? Therapy... I'm making a therapy appointment right now.
Has anyone gave the thought that even though it hasn't been given a "Look Here" moment, yet it kind of have with the revelation Boruto has learned Flying Thunder God. Who is to say he wasn't trained by Minato after his newly awakened eye allows him to either travel to the pure realm or to speak to those who are in the pure realm which would both show another way how Boruto trained himself so he doesn't take the chance of being put into the spot of having to use Momoshiki and proving his determination once again
I have been trying to get until Boruto for years. But it just seems to be leagues below Naruto. But this gives me hope to keep going with Boruto. My main issue with the end of Naruto, and Boruto so far, is everything seems to be less creative and more lazy overpowered transformations. No characters matter except Sasuke, Naruto, Boruto, and Sarada.
Throughout the roots and the vegetation, I alone am the tree.
- Treesuke Rootchiha
Does that mean he's gonna get cut in half😥
Jjk boys going crazy
Lobotomy Kaisen is spreading
Domain Expansion: BEEG WOOD
Do not Misunderstand it, This is the Power of Chainsaw!!!!
Every single Otsutsuki who’s faced Sasuke has gotten irritated by his Rinnegan abilities, I love to see it every time 🤣🤣
Hahaha word man Sasuke hunted their asses down so bad they were fed up for real. They always tried to separate both him and Naruto during fights because their chemistry on the battlefield was such a threat.
"That damned rinnegan" 😂
@@ZeeB...they kissed a few times and fought a lot of opponents so thats why they have that crazy chemistry 😂
@@Shpejt-ci9el Hey i believe it lol
@ZeeB... 🤔 Until they met this guy they call......
JIGEN!!!
"He (Isshiki) impailed Sasuke w more black rods than Riley Reed saw in her entire career", damn, that's pretty good.
Paused the vid just to find this comment 😂
went straight to the comments as soon as i heard this lol
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Did no one noticed what just nick seid
Heard it from another content creator a while back
As someone who understands Nicks very evident disdain towards sasuke, him coming to his defense here is unexpectedly wholesome. 10/10
Character developement!
That's how you know you're wrong, when that thing or person's biggest hater even feels the need to step up to defend them
You gotta understand what's good about something to hate effectively
The thing is sasuke matured.
Earlier was sasuke controlled by his emotions of rage,hatred, revenge and self righteousness
But now sasuke cares about his village,his sins,and what needs to be done to protect the village
Hence,the shadow hokage.
Nick spitting facts eloquently while full throttle aggressive for half an hour is wildly entertaining
I can see his browser history and I can tell you he's a man of culture that probaly should go touch some grass for just a little bit.
This makes me so glad to see your own character development in regards to Sasuke.
Definitely. Sasuke sacrificing himself for Boruto and Boruto being focused exclusively on saving Sasuke...that is great writing. It means that not only does Boruto have to save the world, he has to save it maybe at the expense of his own wishes to save his sensei. My boy is in the hardest of hard places and all he wants now is to get his life back. A life that he took for granted at every turn. This is what I always thought Boruto should be. Boruto being a rogue and having no help from his parents or friends. I thought that it might have been better if Naruto was forced to exile him for his own good, but damn if Kishimoto didn't come up with a way scarier version of that.
Saskues character build up is literally represented in the story. A tree grows strong, withers in the winter, then comes back stronger in the spring,while the new generation of trees begin to sprout and spread. How long does it take for a tree to grow to its full potential? Give it time....
Saskues plot armor is being repaired lol
It's not even that the plot armour was broken. Kishimoto was just having it play hide and seek for bit to make room for his clever *Plot Device.*
@@masterstepz9800yeah hiding since 2014
these are the exact points I have been arguing to people for so long man, seeing that u understand Kishimoto and how smart he is with certain plot points makes me so happy. Thank you for actually reading whats being worked on. I am so excited to see where this story goes. Great work as usual
Boruto is the second or third, good character development, a great display of new and old techniques. You manage to empathize a little more with him.
This video made me so happy. You're a literal LEGEND Nick. Thank you for being a person who knows how character development and story writing works
Also let me throw this out there:
10 tails jinjuriki naruto using wood release to make a wooden kurama gollum with 1000 fox tails could be an awesome way to pay tribute to the first hokage with sasuke outing his susano armor on it would go hard
Honoring the first and disrespecting the second I like it
Golem. Gollum is Sméagol.
What could be sasuke powerup if naruto became ten tails jinchuriki will just getting his rinnegan and lost hand be good enough
Won't happen tho, sasuke is meant to mirror naruto so if naruto did do this sasuke wouldn't coat his susanoo because his susanoo is meant to mirror the kurama avatar or sasuke would get a replacement for susanoo and it just seems a bit complicated to me also because I think they're going to keep the plot point that you keep susanoo after u unlock the ms and it would just he weird to have sasuke inherit a single rinnegan which is what the shinju sasuke has as opposed to some combination of sharingan and rimmegan
@@LuminaryMonochrome i don't understand... Sasuke has already provided the Majestic Attire Susano'o for Kurama. What would be the difference here?
I think it'd be completely ridiculous for Naruto to emulate the True Thousand Hands as a Kurama avatar. It'd be cool, for sure... but ridiculous. You may as well just call them Chakra Arms at that point because that's all they would be. The orange coloration of Kurama's chakra would be kind of a moot point by then.
I'd rather see Naruto just use the True Thousand Hands jutsu as it was, but maybe incorporate his tried-and-true Multi Shadow Clone into it. Or maybe give each of the hands a Rasengan to smash into the enemy, like a Many Spiraling Spheres attack that Naruto has done in the past but on steroids.
You feeling ok dude? You're saying nice things about sasuke
😂😂
I'm beginning to think he lost a bet. Lol. He is right though imo. It's nice to see Sasuke develop. And not just in to a tree.
@@dking6950 Talking good about Boruto makes him more money than not talking good about Boruto. Thats why Dygonight is broke and this dude has a house. Speaking the truth rarely pays off, speaking what pays always does
@@dking6950 I agree its a breath of fresh air to have Sasuke have a personality, as one of the most frustrating things about Shippuden Sasuke is that he either had none or was just going insane.
One thing I would argue against is the idea that Sasuke is in any way written as a husband, but simply a father who now has the human emotions necessary to try and be a father.
Kishimoto has made it clear that Sasuke is not the romantic type, when Kishimoto approved of the filler version of the Sasuke Shinden, almost all the moments from the Light that were clearly written by SasuSaku writer were completely removed, incidents of Sasuke caring for Sakura were, like in Boruto and even sometimes Naruto, merely scenes of him being protective of one of his best friends, as Sakura is one of his closest friends and that is the end of it.
As for the ring scene, Sasuke proposed to Sakura as it was simply the most logical thing to him in accordance to rebuilding his clan, and then left Sakura and a newborn Sarada without a second thought for a decade. There's no romance.
Sakura was fully aware that Sasuke had no heart for romance when she faked a wedding photo.
He actually understood Sasuke's character after he made that 500k special video. It's hard to understand him when you watch Naruto just to finish it & start new anime or something.
He hates Teen Sasuke but not the last & Adult Sasuke, that's what we can see since then
Man this is why I love this channel. I don't really take time to watch anime or have a big interest in it but I grew up with the Naruto universe and have been obsessed since I was a kid. You dig deep, you go beyond what is right in front of our eyes, you see all the storylines in such a unique way to everyone else. People just shit on Boruto because it's not Naruto, pretty much, but here you are, going against the grain, telling us why it's great. And I agree. Thank you for your service 🫡
Having Naruto and Sasuke at the end can also narratively "rhyme" with the Kage in the 4th war - the story is all about cycles.
Code is like jogo of boruto. Very powerful but always getting bodied by way more powerful beings
You get it, I hated Sasuke in OG and Shippuden but through his relationship with Boruto and Sarada he has become one of my faves.
Not because of how much he fights or the big feats he does but because of how caring he now is with them.
He was central to make Boruto the man he is now, he cares so much for Sarada and Sakura and he has done so much to pay Naruto back for all the shit he put him through.
So do you hate OG Sasuke less now since you understand where his character development was going?
@@donovan4222 No because it doesn't change his decisions or the thijgs he did do.
Its great that he grew past that as a character but it doesn't feel as dynamic or needed that he take that road to develop to where he is now as others did.
It felt more like a 180 shift happened after the war arc.
Compare that to someone like Zuko in Atla, Scar in FMA, etc where the development in linier and dynamic etc.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I think Sasuke is up there with other great redemption characters in shonen imo. I think he has better and more interesting character development than Naruto just because of the issues with the village/society he attempts to address, which Naruto still kind of has no answer to.
Also plz don’t spoil FMA for me because I’m watching that right now lol Scar is just starting to change.
Highkey I feel like this is the way Sasuke should have been written. Despite all of his hardship and despair in his life, he learned to appreciate the people he had, rather than the ones he lost. But unfortunately, Sasuke decided more power was better than coping.
if u hated og Sasuke its just cause u didn't understand his character. Majority of decisions he made were justified
In this video, not only we learn much about sasuke development in boruto but also nick development on sasuke
I completely agree 💯
completely agree that sasukes dinosaur story was good for fleshing out his character, he needed it, he was barely present in naruto compared to the rest and was only about revenge, he needs to develop beyond that, i'd even argue that his story in boruto could have been fleshed out more; i really love the one where he goes back in time with boruto too (even though its also a bit dumb) and gets to interact with jiraiya and respect him as a shinobi and not just a pervy teacher naruto used to have; also to talk with young naruto and realise the effect him leaving had on everyone. I love these moments and he is also one of my top favourite characters, I love his development and hope this tree thing does him justice, as with naruto.
I do think naruto and sasuke have sometimes been nerfed but defintely agree that if you're trying to protect someone or are fighting a new unknown enemy anything can happen no matter who you beat in the past. Power isnt linear and exponential, you can have good and bad days, strong and weak moments, and distractions like people you love maybe dying especially when you allow yourself to value it (past sasuke didnt value anyone or anything other than revenge) make things harder
This is honestly is my favourite video.
You brought up really good points that I wholeheartedly agree with
Damn that Riley Reid bar was hard. Sasuke needs a step bro to help him get unstuck from that tree
Been watching your videos consistently for two years. Finally subscribed, I literally look forward to seeing something new from you on my lunch break. Keep it up ✊🏾
I love Nick's rants. Please give us more!
What do you think about Sarada doesn't get blinded cause her ms is different?
Ms blinds the user to make the wilder blind to the pain. But Sarada is gonna pursuit the truth, so maybe she has the potential to have a no defective ms, but a perfect ms.
Sasuke gets turned into a tree… Nick “he’s the best character” 😂
So u didn’t watch the video huh
@@assassin5018 nope 😂
@@assassin5018 gonna cry?
Pass
Thank you Nick, thank you 🙏🏻
I am a relatively new fan of the Naruto verse and it’s became my favorite franchise. I argue these exact points constantly! The MAN of all Men to talk Naruto/Boruto, I’m glad you keep speaking highly of Boruto Franchise! KEEP IT UP BROTHER ❤
Nick really went full circle in this video. From verbally ruining Sauksue every chance he had to openly defending him in Two Blue Vortex. That’s massive character development 🙌🏾
Damn almost thought I was either high or drunk when I say this from nick protecting sasuke in boruto and I absolutely love the rant 😂
It's an incredible story our Masashi Kishimoto is putting together. I don't really have the time or money to get all the manga together for it. But I do have an incredible Nick here to break everything down and allow me to enjoy the story of Boruto. Thank you so much, Nick!
If I’m being honest, when I first heard about Boruto I was initially worried that the sequel to Naruto was staring his son and his friends’ children.
The reason was because I knew that Naruto realistically should solve all of his son’s problems. And there shouldn’t be any threats because Naruto brought world peace.
And when hate on Burot was at its peak, I began to think that it made more sense that a sequel to Naruto should’ve taken place in an era where the original main cast was long dead. That way, the new main cast didn’t have, as nick put it, “a walking plot device” to solve all of their issues and have Naruto and Sasuke be Legends like 1st hokage and Madara. It would’ve also open the door for Edo Tensei versions of them.
But that’s what used to think. Now kishimoto has manage to make the story very compelling and keeps us on our toes every new chapter that comes out.
Borutos manga is honestly a 9.5/10 love the development of some of the character especially sasuke, he’s become my favorite character by far
I love how Boruto was going to a downward spiral until Kishimoto went "fine I'll do it myself" and got back on the wheel.
I love that you are open to changing your mind on things. Best naruto youtuber by far
I dont think this is what Sakura meant when she told Sasuke she needed the wood
9:38 Nick is legit losing his marbles man wtf
Other than that tho, Sasuke's been great in Boruto. It's a nice change of pace from his angsty edgelord mode from OG Naruto and Shippuden into a somewhat cold but still compassionate and humane personality in Boruto. I don't know how else to say, but he's kinda become a guy that most wouldn't hate to be around.
We all know kishimoto putting Sasuke in a tree and sealing Naruto is a way to prepare for something bigger
Like how Goku got heart virus he was out of the show for awhile
Oh definitely. Boruto literally told Code that he was fucking up and the world was going to pay the price. And HERE WE GO.
The black rod line you threw in there was GOLD!
It's truly unfortunate that actually compelling discourse about Boruto gets overshadowed or completely inhibited by the stuff Nick is referring to in this video.
I have friends who I occasionally give updates on the series to and when I explain key moments such as the reveal of Rasengan Uzuhiko, they get caught up on how absurd "Boruto uses the rotation of the earth to make someone dizzy" sounds. While, for me, the concept of Boruto building on the nature of the rasengan: harnessing the power of raw chakra through increibly controlled motion, by relating it to the ever spinning nature of the Earth, and then weaponizing it, is an incredible but subtle progression of the narrative. Thinking about him and Kashin Koji and/or Sasuke meditating on how Boruto can improve his arsenal, and the concept of nature energy flowing in a spiral motion comes up, and they relate that to the Rasengan and philosophy turns into one of the coolest Rasengan variations; just good writing.
I do feel like these narrative concepts should be more tangible, but that's an issue with all anime/manga. Theres an amount of digestibility that is required to both be palpable by a wide audience, and to be practical to produce.
I think JJk does some revolutionary things with its narrative that every shonen should reflect on in the future, but it can be hard for that to be noticeable through the lens of an action show.
Nick ranted for 29 minutes so i feel justified in rambling in his comment section for maybe one or two people to see lol.
lmao cmon bro there’s no way you think the writing is good just because Boruto made a new big Rasengan. You need more than that to have a compelling story.
Boruto is one of the best selling manga/anime in the world right now, it does appeal to a wide audience, it’s just that it’s poorly received by most of the original Naruto fanbase. I think the reason for that is it lacks what made Naruto special…there’s no compelling villains, the story feels poorly thought out like it’s being mostly made up as they go along, and the power scaling is so whacky that at the halfway point Boruto is already stronger than all the Kage combined. The traditional Japanese aesthetic is gone, and it’s stuck in this weird in between cyberpunk aesthetic that it feels like it wants to be but doesn’t fully commit to….
There’s no more cool jutsu because everything just gets absorbed or negated, the fights are just 90% Taijutsu, none of the supporting cast can even contribute anything because of the bonkers scaling…these are just a few of my complaints but to each their own.
@@donovan4222 I didn't think it was necessary to explain that giving a single example doesn't mean that I only have a singular reason for finding the narrative compelling.
The things that you described having an issue with would contribute to a much better discussion than what the loudest critics are voicing, but I still think they miss the point in some ways. The scaling relative to Naruto was very clearly noted by Nick in this video. This era is very intentionally supposed to be rapidly surpassing the previous. I'm not going to restate all of Nick's points on that.
With regards to the relevance of the side cast I do largely agree. Boruto and Kawaki's story is compelling, but the rest of the cast feel like they haven't really had the time or space to come into their characters.
I have more to say but I have to go for work and I know I will forget to respond if I don't right now lol
@@TooFast4uzz Sure I agree that fans are dumb and they will usually be bad at criticizing stuff. Star Wars fans are a great example of moronic fans hating bad movies for all the wrong reasons. But I think there are still plenty of people laying out legitimate criticisms of Boruto.
I don’t think every generation really surpasses the previous in Naruto because the strongest characters in the series up until Naruto were Madara and Hashirama, who were characters from like 4 or 5 generations ago. Maybe this is just a pet peeve of mine, but I don’t like when the MC is near instantaneously the strongest character in the verse, especially when to get to that point the MC had to surpass Naruto and Sasuke, who are supposed to be god reincarnations that spent the entire series building up to be the strongest of all time. Then they just get surpassed by a 13 year old in one generation? I don’t like that. I would much rather have Boruto and Kawaki surpass Naruto/Sasuke at the end of the show if they are going to do that.
Also, similar to JJK, I’d rather see them just have Naruto and Sasuke busy doing something else or have an in story reason for why they can’t help Boruto in every fight, rather than just making Boruto surpass them this early. I think Naruto/Sasuke should be treated similar to Gojo where they are a benchmark for power in the story and no one really compares, while Boruto has to deal with lesser threats and work his way up to their level. Now that every villain is Otsutsuki level, it just feels ridiculous that any regular Shinobi like Sarada or Mitsuki or Shikamaru can contribute to a fight at all.
Saskue character development remindes me of a mixture of Vegeta and Piccolo’s character development. Not exactly the same but it rhymes. I think his character development is spot on and awesome!
He was the best character in Naruto too. Haters just don’t understand him.
Sasuke has the best character development in the story. His philosophy constantly changes in response to the ever-changing shinobi world and his motivations as a character are justified and compelling.
I’ll never understand how people hate on Sasuke and ignore his outstanding characterisation just because he’s “edgy” and “emo” .
Maturing as a person is realizing Sasuke was always the best character and we just hated him because he was mean and got in Naruto’s way
Ah yes Sasuke the super complex totally hard to understand character...... Get real
@@BeefLover11 Well said. I don’t get how people say he was “flip floppy” in his beliefs. That’s not true at all. Every time he changed his motivations he got new information.
At first, he wanted to work with his friends to become strong enough to kill Itachi. But then when Itachi beat him down so easily he realized it wasn’t enough and made the decision to go with Orochimaru.
Then when he realized he didn’t need Orochimaru anymore, he cast him aside.
After he found out the truth of Itachi, he wanted revenge against the leaf village.
And after seeing Itachi continue to protect the village even in death he wanted to know why Itachi would go so far so he talked to the hokage.
Then he came to his ultimate conclusion of ruling the ninja world as hokage and taking all the hatred upon himself. And to do that he first had to defeat Madara and Obito.
Finally, after seeing Naruto not willing give up on him in their final battle, he was brought back to their side and chose to believe in Naruto and Itachi.
I don’t see how someone could possibly think Sasuke was “flip flopping” without just completely ignoring the story.
@@VIPz_Kirk I’d love to hear your interpretation of Sasuke’s character.
Dude that was brilliant!
Sasuke has been one of if not the best character in naruto for a long time. I think the problem w sasuke is that bec is a secondary protagonist and we get a lot less of his story as compared to naruto and shippuden we see a lot of his actions superficially. In reality he is remarkably well written
I read somewhere that riley fam basically disowned her for her work is sad but the joke gave me a chuckle.
Mmm the next generation thing may usually only reference a few ppl bec hashirama is one of the strongest ppl of all time and so is madara and largely didnt apply until narutos maybe minatos generation.
The gohan take is eh. Gohan usually rounds the end of an arc on the upper end of power relative to everyone else except (but also even tho/when) he is a child. As like a 17/18 yr old he becomes like top 3 in the verse until super and barring fusions. And if you think buu absorbing is fusion then he actually is the strongest non fused character in z. He lives up to his potential but he fumbles closing altercations.
Also also we see that he didnt have his sharigan active when he got eye stabbed
Lmaooo yea amaterasu is a fodder jutsu basically.
Lmaoooo walking plot devices 😂😂
28:30 😂 with DB being my all time favorite I hate that he not lying about that statement.
Do my eyes deceive? Nick actually praising Sasuke💀
Never in a million years would i have thought I’d hear Nick reference Riley Reid in a video about Sasuke
If you’re hating on Boruto you obv don’t read the manga . I guess it’s to hard for these kids to read these days
i honestly love sasuke in shipuden and og naruto he was my favorite(I had 15 years when i watched naruto)
and right now in boruto he is my second favorite right after boruto
This is like your third video about Sasuke being a good character.
Kinda says something. 😅
Such a wholesome episode of you defending sasuke
2:35 From what I'm hearing I think people don't want a character's consistency to be sacrificed for character development.
Like, if you wanna take a character in a direction, do so, but don't weaken the character, strengthen the adversary. It's unsatisfying to see him struggle with what we know he can do, whether or not he has to because Kishi said so.
Suspension of disbelief and all that
I personally, which I know many disagree, don't think Sasuke is really struggling past what he should be struggling with. The fact of the matter is the dude is also Chakra drained, which I get it, is absolutely annoying. But he is constantly using space time abilities which have from the beginning. Been mentioned to require an absorb amount of chakra. I mean if we base it off the statements from the 4th GNW, then even naruto would have only enough chakra to use the ability 3 times. And he has more chakra then basically everyone combined.
The being said. I do think Sasuke fights are underwhelming. But I don't think it's as bad as people say. Concidering the show itself is more underwhelming then OG and Shippuden Naruto fights. They don't have the Rizzoli anymore XD
People are often letting perfect get in the way of the good. If I were to sit down and nitpick the story to death I'm sure I could work myself up and steer myself towards a negative opinion even if my initial reaction was positive. I don't like how power creep has "seemingly" made all the other shinobi in the series that aren't named Boruto absolute fodder but as far as writing an interesting and intriguing story I think Kishimoto has done a pretty good job. Maybe it's a radical concept but I'm going to exercise a little patience and see how things turn out regarding my concerns and enjoy the table that Kishimoto is setting. If the wait pays off, great! If not, then I'm going to enjoy what I think's enjoyable and if Boruto isn't scratching that itch anymore there are other media to devote my attention to.
Sasuke is certainly more likable in Boruto than he ever was in Naruto and I'm here for it. I'm all for Kishimoto spending more time to develop the relationship between Kashin Koji and Boruto and Boruto and Sasuke. Kishimoto has some nice ingredients to work with so let's see him cook.
Imagine saying this is the best thing kishimoto has written and continue to elaborate on why sasuke being a literal tree is fine.
At the end of the day there are 2 Naruto fans. The ones who don't prefer the Ōtsutsuki and those who like their addition. That's genuinely what I feel to be the biggest separation of the series.
Precisely
Imagine being so passive in your writing that you come off as extremely obtuse.
14:39 I am absolutely flabbergasted by that Riley ried line
Honestly, the biggest issue with Boruto is how quickly it scaled up the threats that Botuto and his team would face. It makes their powers feel less earned because they surpassed what basically anyone in pre-Shippuden Naruto could do basically by their own chunin exam. I like the idea of having the looming threat of the otsusuki going on in the background while Boruto and team face off against threats more their level. Orochimaru and the Akatsuki were a thing since early Naruto, but Naruto and Sasuke basically only fought them to get jobbed or show how far left they still had to go. Kakashi and Jiraya would stand off against them, the third Hokage fought Orochimaru, it wasn't always Naruto facing down the big bad. That was part of what made OG Naruto so good. It clued you in to the bigger threats without ever pretending Naruto would be much more than a distraction. But that doesn't really work on the scale that the Otsusuki are at, because they aren't gonna be releasing Naruto or Sasuke from a jutsu just to dodge a kunai thrown at them, and they're not gonna test the kids for their own pleasure and let the kids go all out, or crush their confidence to convince them to get stronger. They're not gonna give Boruto the chance to flex what he can do cause they wanna put a curse mark on him, he's already got his Karma and Momoshiki didn't search Boruto out to test him for that. That's the thing, they brought the kids into the fights with the big bads and had to make it seem like they weren't totally worthless, so it made the bosses and Naruto and Sasuke feel weaker to not be able to one shot the enemies that were unable to one shot the kids.
There was a lot of scaling difficulty with early Boruto cause the writers clearly wanted to establish threats that continued to usurp the power levels of the prior threats from Naruto, but it makes the show come off like if Naruto were to be dragged along with Hiruzen in his fight against Orochimaru, or worse. Maybe as if Kakashi had brought Naruto from the end of the Land of Water arc to the battle against the 10 Tails during the 4th Great Ninja War. Naruto has had a problem with scaling really ever since Naruto had to fight Shukaku and win, and especially as the power levels of Shippuden continuously scaled up and up on an exponential curve. Boruto really needed to take its time rebuilding the curve from the ground up, but it overshot its load, just by having Boruto always there with the God tier threats and not instantly getting taken out or used as a way to finish off Sasuke and Naruto from the word go. Especially with the speed feats people claim Naruto, Sasuke, and their enemies supposedly have. I like that Sasuke got hurt protecting Boruto, but he should basically be constantly having to protect Boruto or Sarada whenever he's fighting within a mile of them cause their enemies should be constantly trying to exploit Naruto and Sasuke's weaknesses of having to protect others and be defense for them. It's one of the reasons I liked the standoff with Code where Naruto was held back by him threatening Shikimaru the whole time. It'd be a boring show if that was literally every fight, but it honestly should be whenever anyone who isn't Sasuke, Sakura, or a handful of others are at the scene of the battles
You...are COOKING! Lots of talk of being narratively intelligent in the video and you show more intelligence in your comment. I think power scaling in boruto is the entire problem with the series. Your comment really expanded on things I never considered.
@@twerkin4jesus499 Thanks, I really appreciate you reading through it and enjoying my comment. Scaling has been an issue with Naruto since around Pain's first fight with Jiraiya and the introduction of Susano'o to me, just cause they had to escalate so far above what happened in those fights by the end of the war (and to make the very few enemies that were Obito, Madara, and Kabuto a legitimate threat for all of the villages and the samurai). But it was fine cause the characters could naturally flow into it. Bortuto resetting the story with a bunch of Genin really had an issue because it was also continuing into that post Kaguya level scaling
I’m not sure if the next generation is always stronger than the last really fits in this, madara, kakashi, itachi, hashirama, and generally anyone who survived the first 3 ninja wars are examples of this. When madara comes back even even remarks that the average power of shinobi has declined since he was alive.
To be honest, I love boruto as a show, but as also a Naruto fan, only complaint I got about boruto which is not utilising other characters, I know Naruto and boruto are the main characters but I just wish rock lee can kill a god by opening an eight gate, the one thing that might guy couldn’t
Can we talk about how all of the villains in Boruto absolutely pale in comparison to Naruto? They all have the same generic bad guy personality with no interesting philosophies or powers whatsoever. Going from villains like Pain, Orochimaru and Madara to bumshiki and dumbshiki and code the doormats is pretty bad.
@@donovan4222dude Narutos villains literally have the same goals as the last one Naruto defeated snake mom isn’t a villain dude never was
@donovan4222 momoshiki is literally causing boruto life a living helll right now and we don't need another broken hero Bellshill villain almost all the villains have the same motivations it's boring 😅
@@donovan4222bruh just because the villain is straight up evil and doesn't have a sad backstory doesn't make them bad.
Momoshiki and jigen/ishiki are top tier
@@fly463 When did I say they need a “sad backstory”?
You just turned and flipped my paradigm. I love this
To be honest is a little weird that Sasuke was captured.
For example when Boruto lost his eye protecting Sarada looked really forced. Sarada could easily block that strike or Boruto as many other times. But probably Code ambushed Boruto and Sasuke.
I agree, just because character development is happening doesn’t mean it’s being executed well. Thats what Nick seems to be misunderstanding.
I mean Konan almost won against Obito , if not for the plot device called izanagi. Or how Madara was backstabbed by Zetsu which I think the weakest nammed character I have seen in Shippuden.
Sarada wasn't really expecting Kawaki to straight up to do that tho and she didn't have her sharingan activated
THANK YOU i needed this video so bad honestly.
I love this video😊
I don’t want anybody else in the story to die. In fact, I want dead characters to come back to life. I know that it will undo stuff for the story. I don’t care. Some of these people deserve a good life. I feel so sorry for the Shinobi they deserve to come back and get a second chance dragon Ball Z style fuck it let’s do it
Nah that’s a really bad idea man no offense but not only would that undo so many things it’d literally ruin more then a few plotlines and lives you’d fundamentally change characters it wouldn’t work
@@Friezit yeah, I think it would change some lives if some of the people who lived with nothing but war finally see a little piece. I don’t understand there’s so much magic in this world why is bringing people back from the dead, so scary Itachi he’s not even that strong now there’s people stronger than him. He doesn’t deserve it he was like 20 he suffered, he deserves to be brought back it happens in stories all the time I know that I’m wrong OK I’ve been reading this story for a long time and I really feel for these fake people. I don’t care about the plot. They deserve some Dragon Ball Z McGuffin.
I agree with most of what you said. My only real issue with Sasuke is I wanted to see him use more of the rinnegan abilities. Pain set the gold standard for rinnegan use. The rinnegan itself is a seriously big deal, but after Pain we don't see much of it being utilized in terms of "flare". I wouldn't change anything in terms of outcome with how the story has gone, I just would have liked to visually see Sasuke make more use of his rinnegon abilities aside from the switching places/teleport. It's like Naruto never showing us that he is using Kurama and never glowing orange. I just wanted to see some of that rinnegon flare, that's all. If anything, harassing Isshiki with an an almighty push to the face when Isshiki gets in Sasuke's face, or using Almighty push to send Isshiki face first into a mountain right before Isshiki can throw a rod at someone with Isshiki getting furious at that "damn rinnegan", or absorbing chakra attacks with the preta path, would have made for some great moments.
I agree with the charkra absorption. It made no sense to me how a person who could absorb chakra is always low on chakra. Its almost like they forgot what the rinnegan actually does. And they can't say he doesn't know how cause he stated in shippuden he knew all the rinnegan's ability
I think Boruto went behind Sasuke's back/disobeyed orders and went to go prematurely fight Code. I think during that time Boruto was getting his ass handed to him being unable to tap into Momoshiki power due to fear of losing control. Boruto probably pulled up to Code and his army and Sasuke jumped in and fought Code. I think Boruto was the one who originally almost got bit by the grime but Sasuke maneuvered him out the way and took the blow/bite from the grime. I think Sasuke had a good 3 to 3 and a half years to train Boruto and then once he became a tree Kashin Koji took over as Boruto's master.
One correction I found in this entire thing is Boruto is not about ninjas, Boruto is definitely more focused on cqc than late shippuden but it is by no means about ninjas, it's pretty much sci fi. Which isn't a bad thing, if people simply disconnected Boruto from naruto they would find it very appealing
1:30 That's Sasuke RETSUDEN, Shinden was already animated in Shippuden.....
2:55 Kishimoto had NOTHING to do with that novel aside from the cover illustration....
17:07 LMAO after you explained all this, this moment felt so damn hype, I love this channel
this raises the question, can the shinju/claw Grimes use all of the powers of the people they captured? Sasuke got his left arm back but at what cost ?we saw shinju/claw grime Sasuke use Chidori and a transformed blade since Sasuke also uses a sword. but can shinju/claw grime Sasuke also use current and past abilities such as Ems, curse mark, susanoo, can he also use the 6 tome rinnegan abilities?
I don't see why not? They have their DNA and are parts of a ten tails
The true extent of the Claw Grimes's abilities remains shrouded in mystery, with only glimpses of its power revealed thus far. Its ability to wield Chidori and manipulate a transformed blade suggests that it can tap into certain aspects of Sasuke's arsenal, hinting at the potential to replicate his signature techniques. However, whether it can fully harness the complexity of Sasuke's Rinnegan abilities, including Amaterasu, Susanoo, and the six paths, remains a matter of speculation.
The question of whether Sasuke has made any sacrifices to regain his arm is equally intriguing. The Claw Grimes's regenerative capabilities imply a potential cost, perhaps a reduction in chakra reserves or limitations on the use of certain powers. Only time and further revelations will shed light on the true nature of this symbiotic relationship and the implications it holds for Sasuke's future as a shinobi.
@@Suto_KoWouldn't the cost of the regeneration be, you know, him stuck in a tree lol. Technically, he isn't meant to escape the tree, it's not like he used some Jutsu to regenerate, he was attacked and stuck in a tree. I feel like the only reason Sasuke's actual body would regenerate, is for the shinju, not Sasuke.
I'm 100% here for the internet making Nick so pissed he goes full spicy to defend Sasuke. 😂😂😂😂
Boruto, as an independent story, is really good, the power scaling is just a little inconsistent.
The thing people don't like about Boruto is the Otsutsuki and for being a Naruto sequel.
Otsutsuki are the reason why shinobi exited WTF
@@jonathanolivier6932but the fact that thousands of at least pain level fighters exist in the universe is kindof crazy
@jennatolls1111 pain used the rinnegan and the rinnegan is a power from oksusiki, so I don't agree with you
@jennatolls1111 humans in earth are not the only one alive in the entire universe lol
Mind is blown! It makes sense and I never realized some of these things. Like Sasuke being healed. Wow! You're awesome!
In Shippuden there are several moments where I really hate Sasuke but in Boruto he is spectacular, apparently he only had to be a father to be a good character
Nick you where right about boruto being a time traveler in Naruto storm connections he goes back in time with toneri to see Naruto as a child and during the war
I don’t think anybody want Sasuke to have the spotlight for a major battle but people also don’t want him to be the embodiment of an out of chakra meme.
Nick this sounds like epso facto or circular logic;
If you don't like Boruto, you don't keep up with it > you don't know everything
If you don't know everything your opinion is not valid
Therefore only people who like something and keep up with it have valid opinions!!
You can use that logic to silence criticism or oppress discent in every issue!
Sasuke’s character is not being fleshed out very well in Boruto at all. Just because they are doing character stuff doesn’t mean that the character stuff is done well….his mentor role to Boruto feels very forced and kind of clashes with his role with Sarada. He barely has any conversations with Boruto, and doesn’t teach him much of anything. It doesn’t feel like Sasuke and Boruto have developed much of a meaningful relationship at all, but the time skip just assumes they have one.
The relationship with Sakura is also done very poorly…we had 2 entire mangas of Sasuke treating Sakura like sh*t only for them to somehow get together at the end, and then Sasuke is just a deadbeat dad for 15 more years…but we are expected to believe Sakura has some deep love for him? It just makes Sakura’s character seem pathetic and Sasuke seem like a d*ck. And yeah, I know this was supposed to be addressed in the Jurassic park Sasuke novels, but you shouldn’t need an extra light novel for 2 of the main characters of the series to have a believable relationship…if the manga is relying on light novels for character development I don’t think that’s a sign of a good manga. They should be extra reading for people who want to know more details, not required reading for the relationships to make any sense.
Yeah that's basically where I'm at too. Tbh I think I've just grown out of this franchise, a lot of it is not Boruto's problem per se but creative decisions made long ago back in OG Naruto and Shippuden that might be impossible to overcome for some viewers like myself. I'm looking for a kind of story that wasn't there to begin with.
Thank you. I came across a thread where people were debating who should tell Sarada that Sasuke has been bitten… And I’m like… Can we find a way for her to see it for herself? It’s her father for chrissake. I knew Boruto was not well done when I realized I hadn’t shed a single tear yet, like not a single time in a single episode.
There was absolutely no point to make Sasuke this mentor character when he has a daughter . No sense whatsoever. Boruto had a whole father he could have developed a relationship with.
@@withlove312 I think the biggest problem is that it feels like Naruto was supposed to end with Shippuden, but they rushed out a sequel without even having a story planned out and are kind of just winging it as they go. Naruto felt like it was constantly building toward a final climax with a definitive ending, Boruto feels like they are just throwing stuff at the wall hoping something sticks.
Also, I think the worst part of Boruto is the lack of interesting villains. One of Naruto’s biggest strengths was the villains with complex motivations, interesting philosophies/personalities, and unique power sets. Now that’s all gone and the villains are just generic alien cyborg bad guys who punch hard and want more chakra. It just feels like Boruto forgot everything that made Naruto special.
And the power scaling is out of control, which despite what Nick says, does matter. Imagine how whacky it would be if after the timeskip Naruto already had sage of six paths powers from training off screen, and just dog walked the akatsuki. Pretty unsatisfying, and that’s how Boruto is lol
@@donovan4222 they keep borrowing from Dragon Ball Z not realizing that unlike Dragon Ball Z, Naruto has a supporting cast that fans never got bored of, never got tired of, and wanted to see more of. Benching them was not a wise choice.
This is a good thread. The best they did was the parent/child day episode because it showed how Sarada's feelings could affect him, and it makes sense that they would.
Unfortunately, the entirety of Naruto simply wasn't well planned out. That's why in the og series, Itachi used tsukuyomi with base sharingan, because mangekyo wasn't fully developed yet. It's also why we went from the trichotomy of Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura, to Naruto and Sasuke being reincarnations of the 2 sons of a demigod-like figure, and Sakura. The fact that so many things have to be made up for in mini-arcs and whatnot just kinda proves that the author isn't good at managing lots of different characters long term. Or romance lol.
You're the reason I came back around on Naruto and part of why I can look at Boruto without scrunching in disgust (The Special Story in Connections helped me like Boruto along side you). I'm not a Sasuke fan in OG and Shippuden. Glad you make content to inform those about stuff that they didn't know like myself.
I never thought I'd see the day of that kind of title about Sasuke appearing on a Nick video, this really is the best timeline
Feels like this is also a good mirroring of another plot point the fan base has hated since OG Naruto which is having Sasuke as an antagonist again but actually in the story this time (kind of) lol
Bro you hit the nail on the head I wish someone would post this in R/Naruto
Boruto out here repairing everything nick was hating on in Naruto for over time.
That man Sasuke boutta pop back out with the coldest goatee when he gets outta that tree…
I’m very happy you switched your “dumb person” voice to the deep tone. Old one was funny but this one always makes me laugh
I was thinking about the whole shinju situation... And would be fitting to see Might Guy get bitten by a claw grime since he's handicapped and can't escape properly. We would then get a PRIME version of Might Guy shinju form with legs intact. 8 gates sinju would be interesting.
Would love to hear your take on the thought :D
Thanks for all the great videos, Nick! They really help me get through the busy days that I've been slogging through lately
I honestly really like Sasuke and boruto because of because all of the character development and I really honestly do agree because people say Sasuke's been nerved and he's really not yes he lost his rinnegan but that's I really enjoy your videos
The space time ninjutsu is valid but probably a little overblown. I mean we're talking about Naruto at the end of war after he was handing out his Chakra like Candy, Fighting Madara, healing/Might Guy, etc
think this the video he cooked the most in. 10/10, 29 minutes of straight heat💀. way to break down how boruto is literally wht ppl have been asking for, but they just don’t want to read it fr
5:30 Bro the frame where she awakens her mangekyo sharingan was so fire…
You're the MVP of Boruto discussion.
Riley Reed statement is crazy
You absolutely killed it with this
This video has given me a new perspective on boruto. Still not a big fan of it but I guess I've to start from somewhere.
Should kishimoto decide to restore Naruto and Sasuke to their formal glory it would be a smart move. One major reason why the show got hates when they were nerfed is because it's a shonen series. Character don't regress but progress to new highs.
It will be cool to see naruto looking like hagoromo.
If you are gonna watch anime watch it with a filler guide or read manga.
there will always be moment that you have to stop, so that you can run again
Nick is doing a lot of yelling in this video. I kinda like it. Wait... Why do I like it...? Do I like being yelled at? Therapy... I'm making a therapy appointment right now.
Has anyone gave the thought that even though it hasn't been given a "Look Here" moment, yet it kind of have with the revelation Boruto has learned Flying Thunder God. Who is to say he wasn't trained by Minato after his newly awakened eye allows him to either travel to the pure realm or to speak to those who are in the pure realm which would both show another way how Boruto trained himself so he doesn't take the chance of being put into the spot of having to use Momoshiki and proving his determination once again
....hold up a second.
I like the theory but I do think it's a stretch. My theory is it was actually Kakashi who at the very least told him how it works.
Being able to travel to the afterlife for training just feels so random
@@GaryJojosome dragon ball shit 😂😂😂
@@GaryJojo like going to another dimension to collect Intel on aliens…. Doesn’t seem so random when you think about it.
lmfao, riley reed reference and black rods... my god, you savage lmao
this is such an aggressive energy video and im here for it lol
Damn I love when he gets mad and goes off on people about naruto
I have been trying to get until Boruto for years. But it just seems to be leagues below Naruto. But this gives me hope to keep going with Boruto.
My main issue with the end of Naruto, and Boruto so far, is everything seems to be less creative and more lazy overpowered transformations. No characters matter except Sasuke, Naruto, Boruto, and Sarada.
Wow! Intriguing when you stated Kakashi vs Sasuke. That’s a battle to see that was never played out.
Actual video title "Best defense of Boruto and why it doesn't suck as badly as you think " 😂
Brooo!!! You really tapped in! You up on the Lingo frfr! Love ya content! 😁👌💪🏿💯💯💯!!!!