I went into the menu to look up that stuff about afflictions versus debuffs because it is confusing. All afflictions are debuffs but not all debuffs are afflictions. The only things that are afflictions are poison, burn, and freeze. Those all count as the buffs as well, but those are the only ones that are considered afflictions.
@@Valkyon230every debuff thats not a statu decrease is an affliction. The only debufss that are not afflictions are afflictions are stuff like the shamman - attack and - defense for example
@@AlexEternalChampGreat insight, if you'd read my post and the OP's you might have noticed that we've listed every affliction in the guidebook besides Deathblow, which I intentionally left out because I haven't personally come across it yet. That aside, yeah it's a bit of a squares and rectangles situation, every Affliction is a Debuff but not every Debuff is an Affliction.
I just ran him with 2 knights up front. It's probably the most easy and fool proof combination there is. Alain protects everyone (+ knights are pretty tanky as it is), and the knight passive just keeps stacking that +20% damage buff and they can hit columns. Later you can also replace this with one of those general spears, so you also get higher crit chance. With one or two column attacks, you pretty much always take out at least one of their backliners. And even Alaine does a lot of damage with one of two of those cavalry buffs. Especially once he gets the unicorn sword. Then you need a support in the back that can also heal. Something like Scarlet(+the quickheal item she starts with) or a generic cleric works really well. If you set Scarlet up right, she can however also use her AOE damage ability occasionally, which helps a lot against teams with a lot of buffs and/or tanks. And the last slot is for a unit to finish off the remaining enemies if there are any. So a sellsword with items so it has low initiative works really well. You can also swap it out for some magical dps when needed, but you won't need it for most of the game. I guess you can also place an archer in this slot to take extra good care of flying units. That might work well on the angel continent -- though I feel you don't really need it. With Alaine's start of battle initiative boost you pretty much always go first, and the only real threat -- being flying units -- usually get destroyed before they can even move.
For the healer slot, just use one of the magical cavalry class, they can heal an entire row and count as cavalry. they can also guard against magic and afflictions
I really like the theorycrafting in this game and appreciate you sharing your theorycraft creations with us! Thank you ICG I've found that Alain's team is typically the easiest to theorycraft because there are so many options and most of them will be awesome and one-round the enemies. It's every other formation that takes all my time to try and figure out! Some of the hardest decisions that I've had to make is which team do I want to increase to 5 people?! Because now I'm trying to figure out what a second front-liner would be and I end up reforming the whole team to make something new work haha.
I ran Renault and Sharon over the prince and elf for my final build. Amalia should be on the front lines btw. Her heavy guard nullifies all except a warrior that survives long enough to swing. That’s pretty rare though.
Cool Alain line up and nice video btw, luv it~ i will be interested to see you make a mid~late game team comp on Warlock/Wizard or Magic build~ i've finished Expert difficulty and just started the true zenorian difficulty a day ago, and i would like to share with you two build that i've used on my Expert Difficulty playthrough. Build 1: Main Dps Warlock/Wizard with Trinity Rain, and Hawk Eye passive, a Unit with Lip's ring Hastened Action i put it on Bishop, and a Unit with Gambler's Coin Inspiration i pick Wereowl cuz it comes with Quick Dispel and other good active skill such as Aurora veil and Restore. Buff everything such as Hastened Action, Inspiration and Hawk Eye onto Warlock/Wizard, and watch it nuke enemy with 2k++ Damages. tho this build require quite abit of mid~end game equipment, you can swap the staff to like a blizzard or earthquake and combo with Magia Soul Recast and still do interesting damage. oh and im using a Feathershield as the tank, and a Knight as leader just for mobility, but on PvP you can always swap things out for what you need. Build 2: Main Dps Warlock/Wizard with Blizzard, Magia Soul for Recast, get Hawk eye on it if you can, Angel Plume Tailwind and Lyrical Active heal on a Bishop, Tailwind Cape Quick Action on a Witch would be nice, and most importantly a tank with White Car-Ear Hood for Quick Impetus. Set Tailwind, Active Heal, Quick Action to target Highest Magic Atk, and Quick Impetus to backrow. This one do pretty crazy damage as well and it's fun to watch the double cast of blizzard back to back due to Recast LUL. make it rain~ This game is pretty fun overall, i just wished that they added more post game quest that we can re-battle instead of just that one final battle, so that we can use it to grind to lv50 on other characters and test out builds. And i also wish they go one step further with the tactics loadout to include Equipment as well, not just tactics loadout.
I've also recently run into disbelief about how few units are considered armors - I'm actively trying to find some to create a party that utilizes the skill where you get up to 3 buffs if you have a row with 3 armors... but like... other than amalia I don't know who I want in that team.
Afflictions = Ailments (Like in Persona, things like stuns, poisons, burns, freeze, blindness etc) Debuffs = Things that modify your character parameters negatively (Atk- Def- Accuracy- No Crit etc) (apparently all afflictions are debuffs but debuffs are not afflictions)
IIRC the difference between affliction and debuff is that affliction is the actual conditions, while debuffs are just statistical losses. Shadowbite afflicts Blind, Ochlys’ Spiral sword just debuffs Evasion. Edit: might have it backwards.
I feel as you get later into the game the "at the start of battle" limited slot becomes highly contested.... there are a lot of combatants that have very good skills in that space and then they're competing with the need to have elven waifu stun and boost her AOE damage. Tangential, but I decided the most wise decision I could make as a leader is to unite the kingdoms of humans and the elves through royal matrimony.
Viking with a Carnelian pendant, Sorceror with thundersurge, and a couple tanky front lines is all that is 90% of the time. Maybe a hunter with row strike for high passive evade tanks.
I heard True Zenoiran is more suited to SRPG veterans than Expert. Is there a guide to breeze through the first playthrough to unlock it ? Sucks it's not available from the start.
Yes! check out a channel called "Glorious GEO" he has a guide on it. Basically you can cheese the early lvl40 missions using Sellswords and powerlevel one team that'll solo the final map on Story difficulty mode thus unlocking true zenoiran, it's really quick should take less than 2 hours from a new save even faster if you already have progress.
Wild rush (Knight valor skill) the boss with a super unit every map until you have the resources to build a team to fight the final boss seems to work fine for a quick clear. A sellsword lets you summon on level green units to do the fighting for you, so they are a great option to skip grinding.
The game is kinda weird when it comes to debuffs and afflictions. The debuff cleanse will remove afflictions AND debuffs. Same with debuff blocking buffs and gear that has debuff immunity.
Debuffs are all negative buffs. Afflictions are debuffs with a specific name and effect. So stun, blind, frozen, burned and I believe all the 'lock'skills (e.g. guard lock) are affliction as well. The other type of debuff are the stat lowering debuff. So -10 initiative, -20% atk, -50% def and so on are debuffs, but not an affliction.
Not sure this is the way to do it with the energy sytem... instead of creating 1 OP team that kill all type of enemies, might be wiser to create 3 team with spesific things to kill, gerald and alain's are great leader due to valor on kill....so they need to be separated, valor skill are just too OP, you can just arrow raid the stupid bird and they are ripe for the picking, big mama can just create another team when you cheese her
I got 5 teams right now that are all very strong.. Full on expert mode rush down and 1 shot just about everything. Only took 20hrs of mock battles and getting every group to at least lvl 15 😂 But no in all seriousness it's easy to make a lot of op teama by the time you reach the elf lands and cleared the desert region. Think you will have about 30 units to mess around with and mix and match.
Definitely create multiple teams, it's safer and with how often the level caps through the story it's better than hoggin all exp to 1 squadron plus some maps require multiple teams to clear fast enough
nah my team is better, lol. jk, I love how the game has so many viable team options (though the opposite end, there's a lot of bad team comps too lol) but yeah, if constantly disabling and enabling skills per battle is your jam and it works for you, then don't let anyone dissuade you, it's probably just how your brain is wired.
"Amalia can be dropped for any generic unit." i have never heard a more uncultured thing in my life
Wait till you see the upgraded version of this team haha. I am a fan of THIC LADY though, so I understand your outrage
I want some snu snu
@@IcedCoffeeGaming Amalia first appearance made my jaw dropped so bad
I went into the menu to look up that stuff about afflictions versus debuffs because it is confusing. All afflictions are debuffs but not all debuffs are afflictions. The only things that are afflictions are poison, burn, and freeze. Those all count as the buffs as well, but those are the only ones that are considered afflictions.
To add to that list, Stun, Guard Seal, Passive Seal, and Blindness also count as afflictions.
@@Valkyon230every debuff thats not a statu decrease is an affliction.
The only debufss that are not afflictions are afflictions are stuff like the shamman - attack and - defense for example
@@AlexEternalChampGreat insight, if you'd read my post and the OP's you might have noticed that we've listed every affliction in the guidebook besides Deathblow, which I intentionally left out because I haven't personally come across it yet.
That aside, yeah it's a bit of a squares and rectangles situation, every Affliction is a Debuff but not every Debuff is an Affliction.
I just ran him with 2 knights up front. It's probably the most easy and fool proof combination there is. Alain protects everyone (+ knights are pretty tanky as it is), and the knight passive just keeps stacking that +20% damage buff and they can hit columns. Later you can also replace this with one of those general spears, so you also get higher crit chance.
With one or two column attacks, you pretty much always take out at least one of their backliners. And even Alaine does a lot of damage with one of two of those cavalry buffs. Especially once he gets the unicorn sword.
Then you need a support in the back that can also heal. Something like Scarlet(+the quickheal item she starts with) or a generic cleric works really well. If you set Scarlet up right, she can however also use her AOE damage ability occasionally, which helps a lot against teams with a lot of buffs and/or tanks.
And the last slot is for a unit to finish off the remaining enemies if there are any. So a sellsword with items so it has low initiative works really well. You can also swap it out for some magical dps when needed, but you won't need it for most of the game. I guess you can also place an archer in this slot to take extra good care of flying units. That might work well on the angel continent -- though I feel you don't really need it.
With Alaine's start of battle initiative boost you pretty much always go first, and the only real threat -- being flying units -- usually get destroyed before they can even move.
For the healer slot, just use one of the magical cavalry class, they can heal an entire row and count as cavalry. they can also guard against magic and afflictions
I really like the theorycrafting in this game and appreciate you sharing your theorycraft creations with us! Thank you ICG
I've found that Alain's team is typically the easiest to theorycraft because there are so many options and most of them will be awesome and one-round the enemies. It's every other formation that takes all my time to try and figure out! Some of the hardest decisions that I've had to make is which team do I want to increase to 5 people?! Because now I'm trying to figure out what a second front-liner would be and I end up reforming the whole team to make something new work haha.
I commented for this like 4 hours ago youre the best man. Thanks for the builds and giving ideas!
All afflictions are debuffs but not all debuffs are afflictions. So Rosalinde does remove things like burn and freeze
I ran Renault and Sharon over the prince and elf for my final build. Amalia should be on the front lines btw. Her heavy guard nullifies all except a warrior that survives long enough to swing. That’s pretty rare though.
Cool Alain line up and nice video btw, luv it~ i will be interested to see you make a mid~late game team comp on Warlock/Wizard or Magic build~
i've finished Expert difficulty and just started the true zenorian difficulty a day ago, and i would like to share with you two build that i've used on my Expert Difficulty playthrough.
Build 1:
Main Dps Warlock/Wizard with Trinity Rain, and Hawk Eye passive, a Unit with Lip's ring Hastened Action i put it on Bishop, and a Unit with Gambler's Coin Inspiration i pick Wereowl cuz it comes with Quick Dispel and other good active skill such as Aurora veil and Restore. Buff everything such as Hastened Action, Inspiration and Hawk Eye onto Warlock/Wizard, and watch it nuke enemy with 2k++ Damages. tho this build require quite abit of mid~end game equipment, you can swap the staff to like a blizzard or earthquake and combo with Magia Soul Recast and still do interesting damage. oh and im using a Feathershield as the tank, and a Knight as leader just for mobility, but on PvP you can always swap things out for what you need.
Build 2:
Main Dps Warlock/Wizard with Blizzard, Magia Soul for Recast, get Hawk eye on it if you can, Angel Plume Tailwind and Lyrical Active heal on a Bishop, Tailwind Cape Quick Action on a Witch would be nice, and most importantly a tank with White Car-Ear Hood for Quick Impetus. Set Tailwind, Active Heal, Quick Action to target Highest Magic Atk, and Quick Impetus to backrow. This one do pretty crazy damage as well and it's fun to watch the double cast of blizzard back to back due to Recast LUL. make it rain~
This game is pretty fun overall, i just wished that they added more post game quest that we can re-battle instead of just that one final battle, so that we can use it to grind to lv50 on other characters and test out builds. And i also wish they go one step further with the tactics loadout to include Equipment as well, not just tactics loadout.
I just promoted a class and a team of 4 people. Can I get some guidelines on how to make a team?
Easy way to tell the difference: Debuffs affect stats. Afflictions do not.
Shatter my knees mommy Amalia...
I've also recently run into disbelief about how few units are considered armors - I'm actively trying to find some to create a party that utilizes the skill where you get up to 3 buffs if you have a row with 3 armors... but like... other than amalia I don't know who I want in that team.
Afflictions = Ailments (Like in Persona, things like stuns, poisons, burns, freeze, blindness etc)
Debuffs = Things that modify your character parameters negatively (Atk- Def- Accuracy- No Crit etc)
(apparently all afflictions are debuffs but debuffs are not afflictions)
Thx for you videos bro !
Any otherq videos of your best teams since your last live utube ?
IIRC the difference between affliction and debuff is that affliction is the actual conditions, while debuffs are just statistical losses. Shadowbite afflicts Blind, Ochlys’ Spiral sword just debuffs Evasion.
Edit: might have it backwards.
Judging by the werefox venom strike, conditions do count as debuffs. But I don't think a debuff would be an affliction.
Yes, literally every negative thing is a debuff. Not sure if this is intended or a bug though.
I feel as you get later into the game the "at the start of battle" limited slot becomes highly contested.... there are a lot of combatants that have very good skills in that space and then they're competing with the need to have elven waifu stun and boost her AOE damage.
Tangential, but I decided the most wise decision I could make as a leader is to unite the kingdoms of humans and the elves through royal matrimony.
Viking with a Carnelian pendant, Sorceror with thundersurge, and a couple tanky front lines is all that is 90% of the time. Maybe a hunter with row strike for high passive evade tanks.
Does this team need healing? Or do they shut down incoming attack?
May have missed the video, what is your colosseum cheese team?
Lvl23 and you got amalia already? What comp did you use to cheese coliseum early?
I heard True Zenoiran is more suited to SRPG veterans than Expert. Is there a guide to breeze through the first playthrough to unlock it ? Sucks it's not available from the start.
Yes! check out a channel called "Glorious GEO" he has a guide on it. Basically you can cheese the early lvl40 missions using Sellswords and powerlevel one team that'll solo the final map on Story difficulty mode thus unlocking true zenoiran, it's really quick should take less than 2 hours from a new save even faster if you already have progress.
It isn't that bad compared to maddening mode in most FE games
Wild rush (Knight valor skill) the boss with a super unit every map until you have the resources to build a team to fight the final boss seems to work fine for a quick clear.
A sellsword lets you summon on level green units to do the fighting for you, so they are a great option to skip grinding.
@@redchicken5533 how much time would take a quick clear of the lowest difficulty in your opinion ?
I wonder if the growth type are randomized for every game : i just got my Amalia, same equipment as you, but i have more HP than you (97 HP)
If Alain is lvl 30 is it worth using his Aoe slash?
How do I unlock a 2nd accessory slot?
Promoting your units after getting B Rank Renown
The game is kinda weird when it comes to debuffs and afflictions. The debuff cleanse will remove afflictions AND debuffs. Same with debuff blocking buffs and gear that has debuff immunity.
Debuffs are all negative buffs. Afflictions are debuffs with a specific name and effect. So stun, blind, frozen, burned and I believe all the 'lock'skills (e.g. guard lock) are affliction as well.
The other type of debuff are the stat lowering debuff. So -10 initiative, -20% atk, -50% def and so on are debuffs, but not an affliction.
Not sure this is the way to do it with the energy sytem... instead of creating 1 OP team that kill all type of enemies, might be wiser to create 3 team with spesific things to kill, gerald and alain's are great leader due to valor on kill....so they need to be separated, valor skill are just too OP, you can just arrow raid the stupid bird and they are ripe for the picking, big mama can just create another team when you cheese her
I got 5 teams right now that are all very strong.. Full on expert mode rush down and 1 shot just about everything.
Only took 20hrs of mock battles and getting every group to at least lvl 15 😂
But no in all seriousness it's easy to make a lot of op teama by the time you reach the elf lands and cleared the desert region. Think you will have about 30 units to mess around with and mix and match.
Definitely create multiple teams, it's safer and with how often the level caps through the story it's better than hoggin all exp to 1 squadron plus some maps require multiple teams to clear fast enough
Death by Snu Snu.
Being an armor feels more like a weakness than a strength. Maybe make a video about why armor archetype suck
nah my team is better, lol. jk, I love how the game has so many viable team options (though the opposite end, there's a lot of bad team comps too lol)
but yeah, if constantly disabling and enabling skills per battle is your jam and it works for you, then don't let anyone dissuade you, it's probably just how your brain is wired.