I knew people would figure out something to do these encounters early, but I never imagined it would be summoning a level 40 unit with some valor points lol.
It freaking scales to the map level? That's legit nuts. I knew summon was pretty good but never thought it would be this good. I thought it was locked to the summers level. Damn
Honestly as much as there are people that says this is a Bad Exploit. [Internal Headcanon Lore.]Your Hiring Mercenaries. Not our Fault the Mercs need to be as strong as their occupiers to even have a Chance to be hired. 😂
In case it wasn’t obvious this needs to be done on story difficulty. Any inconsistencies that you could be having when trying to replicate this are more than likely difficulty related
Very cool to see ‘sequence breaks’ in strategy RPG using ingenious knowledge of game mechanics. That being said, following this guide on a first playthrough comes at serious risk of missing out on a fair chunk of intended progression, ganeplay and the fun that comes with it.
True, but there are quite a lot of high level challenges you can do very early in the story throughout the game. Can always use a lower leveled team for normal gameplay.
It should be mention that with this method you can also unlock the Sigil Trial, Zenith lvl 38, completing it gives you 5x 10,000xp training tomes to cheese xp gain. You can use THE SAME method you used in this vid to cheese it! Over and Over again LOL
I had Alain, Ochlys(leader), Clive and Berenice(all of them level 17-20)... I took out the ALL the towers first, got loads of experience and then took out the enemy HO. I ended up having Alain who started at level 20 up to level 36... The others got into level 30s too. Depleted my revives, and attack and defense potions though.
This is an update to my previous comment reply. I was actually able to clear this Liberation Mission on True Zenoiran, but I will say right now that I do believe that my method is inconsistent, since the first time I tried it, I actually killed the Boss enemy. Here is a description of what I did. The team I used was the following, consisting primarily of lv 9-10 units: Generic Hunter, Chloe, Ochlys, and Berenice. The temporary decoy team was led by a lv 30 Josef that I power leveled using miracle fruits, primarily to bait the Gravity one of the Sorceresses casts at the beginning. Afterwards, I had Josef withdraw to give me +1 valor points while I used a Light Feather on Ochlys to replicate the Hastened Call effect, while never placing any steel traps, as I needed those item uses. Approaching the boss was the same as in the video, but here is where I found the problem. Even with 2 Valor points, the boss in True Zenoiran DOES kill both of the Mercenary teams, requiring additional damage. I then decided to buy the two Magic Bombs from the Black Market, but didn't have it unlocked. For the record, at least in my game I had 4 Liberation Missions, 7 side quests, 4 main quests, All Cornia Map Quests, and 16 overworld quests cleared when the Black market unlocked. I am not sure if anything aside from the Liberation and side missions matter, but wanted to be as thorough as possible here. Here is where it gets inconsistent. I repeated the process, then tossed the two Magic Bombs BEFORE summoning the Mercenary teams. In the first attempt, the second mercenary wiped out the boss before I could get to it. In the second one, the boss survived and Mercenary survived, giving me a chance. Unlike the video though, the surviving Unit was the Sorceress. I THINK that the Sorceress had about 30-40 HP left. No way she had more than 50. Given that Ochlys was my main unit and I didn't want to risk having to deal with an Eagle Eye sniper, or lose the chance entirely, I decided to fight her. Her Tactics/Gambits that mattered were Quick Cast, Ice Coffin set to "Row with Most Opponents" and Magic Missile set to "Row with 2 Opponents." Given at this moment I didn't have any items that could "survive 1 lethal hit" I knew after some team repositioning that at least two units were going to get KOed. So I put the generic hunter, and Chloe into the front, and Ochlys and Berenice in the back, to bait out a Magic Missile. However, the Sorceress went with Ice coffin still, even though there was technically no row with the most enemies, as they were both equal. Berenice counterattacked with Following Slash, then I had Ochlys hit with Shield Smite to get the defense debuff, and finally Berenice landed a critical hit Killing Chain to finish the battle. I am not sure if the crit mattered, as it did roughly 54 damage, but there is a chance it did. At the same time, the optimal play would have been to have her Heavy Slash, due to it being higher potency, but that was my mistake. In the end, even with 2 units KOed, Generic Hunter and Chloe grew to lv 22, Berenice to lv 27, and Ochlys to lv 33 (rookie egg, etc), and got roughly 12K gold due to having 2 golden eggs on the party. As I said, this is likely inconsistent, and was not 100% optimized, but it IS possible.
Actually I do feel that it is theoretically possible even in True Zenoiran, but with a few different steps. First of all, summon your gryphon unit and the decoy unit, but do NOT use the last valor point for the gryphon speed boost. Put up the 2 steel traps (2/5 item limit), then actually use a light feather(the speed boosting feather. 3/5 item limit), to replicate the speed boost from the valor skill. Then when you fly into the boss, use the last valor point to summon the mercenaries, and let them damage the boss. Then when its weak enough, use the Wind Faerie's Charm and the Liquid Fortune to move in for the kill (5/5 item limit) And given he said the steel traps were not necessary, you might even be able to end with 3/5 items used. Unless the units are strong enough to kill mercenaries too early in True Zenoiran.
Thanks for sharing this video, I took down 2 level 40 and 1 level 38 town. Then I went coliseum at Baumratte to do offline battle to top 1 to recruit Amalia, the Dreadnought at Level 40. After beating Amalia & team, still need another round to beat Amalia (Possessed). Equipments she had on are greatsword atk 25 Drakestone iceshield def 16, guard rate 40% & guard efficiency +50% Rudy pendant def 0 base Ap +2 Sapphire Pendant def 0, base PP +2 HP 97 Atk 86 Def 43 Mag Atk 6 Mag Def 14 Initiative 8 Accuracy 144 Evasion 9 Crit rate 1% Guard rate 65%
Anyone know the Level Cap, also is there any way to increase stats after the Cap is reached? Similar to Dragon Quest 11 where after Level 99 you can Farm Seeds that give Permanent Stat Increases.
I didn't realize you were supposed to set this on Story difficulty and stayed on Expert, I spammed Ash and had my summoned units fight the command post 3 times, and the third time ended up killing them for me lol
Feels already nerfed. The summoned level 40 unit team doesn't kill any of them now and dies. You can summon a second level 40 unit to beat the encounter, but you miss out on all that free exp.
This just trivializes the game imho, if its your first playthrough, id highly recommend just playing it normally for max experience, then if you want to replay the game, you can abuse this shit
I'm doing this to beat the final boss at the start of the game. Alternatively, you can just do this for one team and use your normal team for the story.
I tried doing it and the boss killed the sellsword unit, they didn’t do enough damage to the boss, so I summoned another one and they killed the boss. I didn’t feel like retrying, but I was able to go get that end game spear, so at least that was worth it!
OMFG, my best units are 20 now but I'll absolutely be abusing this for PvP purposes. Your other one-shot video got me quite a few wins last night, but I had to swap out Josef since Paladins were excluded from teams and forgot to set Alain's tactics correctly to have the back row act again, so I dun goofed. Today though, it's fucking on! I would add that you can buy a second rookie egg pretty early into Drakenguard, so anyone jumping in from the demo's end should probably spend at least a little time pushing for that. To keep it evened out over the 3 units you likely wanted to level (not the sellsword, they're mid) you can throw Chloe's charm on the odd person out for at least 30% boost. In fact, why not use the hallowed ash x3 to pop out Alain for a Royal Order on your gryphon squad before they leave the home base? Since they're going to get the killing blow, they can travel over the towers with the buff in tow and absolutely gobble up that delicious exp!
@@GloriousGEO Just used this tactic all last night to power level at the training grounds right next to where the spear is. At 33 it was extremely tough, but the summon warriors still worked for the final base. Best option is to turtle on your main base with mage support behind it to flip your RNG and let them bounce off before getting first strikes and popping the exp item before killing them all. It shot them all up to nearly 40 by the time I was ready to advance. GL!
@@GloriousGEO my levels are around 28-30 with the initial cheese team, i cant beat these units standard no matter what formation i try, id love to see how you beat these, as any attempt i make they wreck me.
The only enemy who can outdodge a damned griffin are the foxes.....those things are like untouchable at night without bows or witches and even then you arent winning cuz they also have the dps output to ruin the day of the only 2 things to counter it lol
@GloriousGEO I'm playing the game mostly how it was intended they gave me a run for my money at level 30 range lol. Tho those damned bears I still don't understand them I can't figure out how to harm them since they shrug off magic and heal like zerkers.
Edit: I also found that using another "ash" allows you to use Alain's skill as well for an even further XP bonus for those who want to risk the extra resource. This is amazing! Unfortunately, when I set my difficulty to story mode my summons one shots the boss *cries* so I had to set to Tactical to even get a chance at gaining exp LOL
What’s the point tho? If u want a challenge play expert else do casual. Grinding levels in a game like this is just removes the purpose of the rest of the game altogether. But to each their own I guess
Detailed guide on how to do this to max level here.
ruclips.net/video/O3X0y9crla8/видео.html
Galerius, you're next!
Is that your real voice
@@Fleshlight_Reviewer most likely not.
This must be fucking wild for Josef. Just sheer Giganto Brain of his Young Charge in just winning this 'War'.
Haha yeah
What was the difficulty setting?
I knew people would figure out something to do these encounters early, but I never imagined it would be summoning a level 40 unit with some valor points lol.
i know right lmao
You can press the Y button to make waypoints that your units follow when setting the path
good to know!
It freaking scales to the map level? That's legit nuts. I knew summon was pretty good but never thought it would be this good. I thought it was locked to the summers level. Damn
I don't know why they did this lmao
@@GloriousGEOBetter to take advantage of it now cause I can see them nerfing this skill to have them scale to YOUR level instead of the Maps.
Thanks for posting this. I'll try it on my second playthrough, so as to not mess with the general difficulty level of my first playthrough.
of course!
The "God bless the developers" line broke me 😂
I can't get over Zhongli's voice LMAO, good set of videos about UO, thanks!
Love mr john lee!
Honestly as much as there are people that says this is a Bad Exploit.
[Internal Headcanon Lore.]Your Hiring Mercenaries. Not our Fault the Mercs need to be as strong as their occupiers to even have a Chance to be hired. 😂
hehe, true
That insane, also saw your bad ending video, oof, but shows that the developers planned it so well.
I loved the bad ending lol
@@GloriousGEODo you get the bad ending automatically if you choose to strike him down or do you have to not save Scarlett?
@@murgmaggleramaxis8535I think there's different variations of the bad ending. This is the scarlett version.
Would love to see 100 percent walkthrough with all the cheese you've found. It'll be both helpful _and_ hilarious lol
Lool
In case it wasn’t obvious this needs to be done on story difficulty. Any inconsistencies that you could be having when trying to replicate this are more than likely difficulty related
Correct
😂 thanks for this. Replicated the vid on expert then got stuck on Sorm. Going to the setting now
[face palm] I wasted a bunch of additional items and did it on Expert
I need a full walkthrough from this man
Haha, I might do that.
Very cool to see ‘sequence breaks’ in strategy RPG using ingenious knowledge of game mechanics.
That being said, following this guide on a first playthrough comes at serious risk of missing out on a fair chunk of intended progression, ganeplay and the fun that comes with it.
True, but there are quite a lot of high level challenges you can do very early in the story throughout the game. Can always use a lower leveled team for normal gameplay.
Strictly genius brother.. I’ve been using the sellsword skill myself to finish most battles and then wipe leader out just fucken genius brother
Its so good
It should be mention that with this method you can also unlock the Sigil Trial, Zenith lvl 38, completing it gives you 5x 10,000xp training tomes to cheese xp gain. You can use THE SAME method you used in this vid to cheese it! Over and Over again LOL
Yup, its great
I had Alain, Ochlys(leader), Clive and Berenice(all of them level 17-20)... I took out the ALL the towers first, got loads of experience and then took out the enemy HO. I ended up having Alain who started at level 20 up to level 36... The others got into level 30s too. Depleted my revives, and attack and defense potions though.
Good stuff
I think they added an extra tower watcher to prevent this method
and a balista near the start but that is manageable
This is an update to my previous comment reply.
I was actually able to clear this Liberation Mission on True Zenoiran, but I will say right now that I do believe that my method is inconsistent, since the first time I tried it, I actually killed the Boss enemy. Here is a description of what I did.
The team I used was the following, consisting primarily of lv 9-10 units: Generic Hunter, Chloe, Ochlys, and Berenice. The temporary decoy team was led by a lv 30 Josef that I power leveled using miracle fruits, primarily to bait the Gravity one of the Sorceresses casts at the beginning. Afterwards, I had Josef withdraw to give me +1 valor points while I used a Light Feather on Ochlys to replicate the Hastened Call effect, while never placing any steel traps, as I needed those item uses.
Approaching the boss was the same as in the video, but here is where I found the problem. Even with 2 Valor points, the boss in True Zenoiran DOES kill both of the Mercenary teams, requiring additional damage. I then decided to buy the two Magic Bombs from the Black Market, but didn't have it unlocked.
For the record, at least in my game I had 4 Liberation Missions, 7 side quests, 4 main quests, All Cornia Map Quests, and 16 overworld quests cleared when the Black market unlocked. I am not sure if anything aside from the Liberation and side missions matter, but wanted to be as thorough as possible here.
Here is where it gets inconsistent. I repeated the process, then tossed the two Magic Bombs BEFORE summoning the Mercenary teams. In the first attempt, the second mercenary wiped out the boss before I could get to it. In the second one, the boss survived and Mercenary survived, giving me a chance.
Unlike the video though, the surviving Unit was the Sorceress. I THINK that the Sorceress had about 30-40 HP left. No way she had more than 50. Given that Ochlys was my main unit and I didn't want to risk having to deal with an Eagle Eye sniper, or lose the chance entirely, I decided to fight her. Her Tactics/Gambits that mattered were Quick Cast, Ice Coffin set to "Row with Most Opponents" and Magic Missile set to "Row with 2 Opponents."
Given at this moment I didn't have any items that could "survive 1 lethal hit" I knew after some team repositioning that at least two units were going to get KOed. So I put the generic hunter, and Chloe into the front, and Ochlys and Berenice in the back, to bait out a Magic Missile. However, the Sorceress went with Ice coffin still, even though there was technically no row with the most enemies, as they were both equal.
Berenice counterattacked with Following Slash, then I had Ochlys hit with Shield Smite to get the defense debuff, and finally Berenice landed a critical hit Killing Chain to finish the battle. I am not sure if the crit mattered, as it did roughly 54 damage, but there is a chance it did. At the same time, the optimal play would have been to have her Heavy Slash, due to it being higher potency, but that was my mistake.
In the end, even with 2 units KOed, Generic Hunter and Chloe grew to lv 22, Berenice to lv 27, and Ochlys to lv 33 (rookie egg, etc), and got roughly 12K gold due to having 2 golden eggs on the party.
As I said, this is likely inconsistent, and was not 100% optimized, but it IS possible.
Nice!
Do you know how to get a supply of infinite mirrors? Is there perhaps an endgame shop that sells them?
You buy them with honors in angel region.
That or from the black market too
I’m wondering why my sellsword one shots the boss and I’m thinking it’s cause I’m using Bernice? Probably have to be a mercenary sellsword then
Try the pinned message instead
Thank you Zhongli for the incredible amount of guide this early on in the game life 🙏
Unfortunately doesn’t work in True Zenorian difficulty since Hallowed Corne Ash is replaced with Luminous Corne Ash.
Yeah
Actually I do feel that it is theoretically possible even in True Zenoiran, but with a few different steps. First of all, summon your gryphon unit and the decoy unit, but do NOT use the last valor point for the gryphon speed boost. Put up the 2 steel traps (2/5 item limit), then actually use a light feather(the speed boosting feather. 3/5 item limit), to replicate the speed boost from the valor skill. Then when you fly into the boss, use the last valor point to summon the mercenaries, and let them damage the boss. Then when its weak enough, use the Wind Faerie's Charm and the Liquid Fortune to move in for the kill (5/5 item limit) And given he said the steel traps were not necessary, you might even be able to end with 3/5 items used. Unless the units are strong enough to kill mercenaries too early in True Zenoiran.
bro why is it not working on me . followed your guide but my summon warrior isnt finishing off other unit than the archer on the boss ...
Try changing the diffuculty
@@GloriousGEOtried the story mode but the summonwarriors leaves the sorcerer and archer behind alive. hmm is it random per battle ?
@@GloriousGEObro it works i just leveled up my team further . but its not the archer remains . its the sorceress lmao xD ..
@@ninjitsu2005 aah okay.nice bro
@@GloriousGEOthanks for the guides . Subscribed !
Thanks for sharing this video, I took down 2 level 40 and 1 level 38 town.
Then I went coliseum at Baumratte to do offline battle to top 1 to recruit Amalia, the Dreadnought at Level 40. After beating Amalia & team, still need another round to beat Amalia (Possessed).
Equipments she had on are greatsword atk 25
Drakestone iceshield def 16, guard rate 40% & guard efficiency +50%
Rudy pendant def 0 base Ap +2
Sapphire Pendant def 0, base PP +2
HP 97
Atk 86
Def 43
Mag Atk 6
Mag Def 14
Initiative 8
Accuracy 144
Evasion 9
Crit rate 1%
Guard rate 65%
nice!
Anyone know the Level Cap, also is there any way to increase stats after the Cap is reached?
Similar to Dragon Quest 11 where after Level 99 you can Farm Seeds that give Permanent Stat Increases.
50. No way to break it as far as i can tell
Thinking about trying this exploit, any idea when it might get patched out? Because I was planning to get the game around Easter.
Not anytime soon lol
Why do you sound like king valentine from odin sphere?
Ai?
lol
I didn't realize you were supposed to set this on Story difficulty and stayed on Expert, I spammed Ash and had my summoned units fight the command post 3 times, and the third time ended up killing them for me lol
lol you can tell im on story since i have 9 stamina on all units
If the adds are dealing the damagae how does your unit get the xp?
You only get XP by killing the enemy. Dealing damage gives no xp.
how to liberate the next town? the summon trick seem to no longer work since they do 0 damage
Edit: nvm, just need lower difficulty to Story
I'll make a dedicated video on it later.
How many times did you have to try? My summons get one shot, and the second ones just kill the boss.
First try for me
They just keep one shooting him
@@dettagg1223 hmm try turning the diffuculty up or down. See if that helps
Cant figure out what i did wrong, maybe i waited too late in game to do this? The summon just one shots the boss no matter what
Possibly what lvl are you?
It's probably your game difficulty.
I saw that Gojo reference in the thumbnail😂
the best
Tatiana quest does NOT give rookie egg, it gives a black axe
You can buy the rookie egg after completing tatiana's quest from her village.
Feels already nerfed. The summoned level 40 unit team doesn't kill any of them now and dies. You can summon a second level 40 unit to beat the encounter, but you miss out on all that free exp.
try this instead ruclips.net/video/O3X0y9crla8/видео.html
This just trivializes the game imho, if its your first playthrough, id highly recommend just playing it normally for max experience, then if you want to replay the game, you can abuse this shit
I'm doing this to beat the final boss at the start of the game. Alternatively, you can just do this for one team and use your normal team for the story.
I tried doing it and the boss killed the sellsword unit, they didn’t do enough damage to the boss, so I summoned another one and they killed the boss. I didn’t feel like retrying, but I was able to go get that end game spear, so at least that was worth it!
It definitely still is!
OMFG, my best units are 20 now but I'll absolutely be abusing this for PvP purposes. Your other one-shot video got me quite a few wins last night, but I had to swap out Josef since Paladins were excluded from teams and forgot to set Alain's tactics correctly to have the back row act again, so I dun goofed. Today though, it's fucking on!
I would add that you can buy a second rookie egg pretty early into Drakenguard, so anyone jumping in from the demo's end should probably spend at least a little time pushing for that. To keep it evened out over the 3 units you likely wanted to level (not the sellsword, they're mid) you can throw Chloe's charm on the odd person out for at least 30% boost. In fact, why not use the hallowed ash x3 to pop out Alain for a Royal Order on your gryphon squad before they leave the home base? Since they're going to get the killing blow, they can travel over the towers with the buff in tow and absolutely gobble up that delicious exp!
Good to know!
@@GloriousGEO Just did this LMFAO. Took my 20’s to 33; 28 for the Chloe buffed one. Thanks for posting!
hell yeah, buddy
@@GloriousGEO Just used this tactic all last night to power level at the training grounds right next to where the spear is. At 33 it was extremely tough, but the summon warriors still worked for the final base. Best option is to turtle on your main base with mage support behind it to flip your RNG and let them bounce off before getting first strikes and popping the exp item before killing them all. It shot them all up to nearly 40 by the time I was ready to advance. GL!
@@JodouTRFlipping your RNG is so important to do. good call
how did you liberate the adjacent town? im having a rough go of it... might try magic bombs to see what they do.
So I beat the cavalry lvl 40 quest first thats east of the town using my leveled up characters with no cheese. Then I did the town one.
@@GloriousGEO my levels are around 28-30 with the initial cheese team, i cant beat these units standard no matter what formation i try, id love to see how you beat these, as any attempt i make they wreck me.
I'll upload a video of my attempt. I use a pretty janky team, but I was just farming xp basically.
Why cant my gyphons fly?
set them as the party leader
@@GloriousGEO yea I found that out right after I posted that lol. Thanks anyway
Soooo how long until it gets patched?
haha, soon maybe
Alain's royal order STACKS. Use those ashes and spam valor points. Thank me later.
The only enemy who can outdodge a damned griffin are the foxes.....those things are like untouchable at night without bows or witches and even then you arent winning cuz they also have the dps output to ruin the day of the only 2 things to counter it lol
Fighting them for the first time in the final boss map was scary asf
@GloriousGEO I'm playing the game mostly how it was intended they gave me a run for my money at level 30 range lol. Tho those damned bears I still don't understand them I can't figure out how to harm them since they shrug off magic and heal like zerkers.
Edit: I also found that using another "ash" allows you to use Alain's skill as well for an even further XP bonus for those who want to risk the extra resource.
This is amazing! Unfortunately, when I set my difficulty to story mode my summons one shots the boss *cries* so I had to set to Tactical to even get a chance at gaining exp LOL
haha nice
Where did you get this AI voice? That is Keith Silverstein lmao
Elevenlabs.io
What’s the point tho? If u want a challenge play expert else do casual. Grinding levels in a game like this is just removes the purpose of the rest of the game altogether. But to each their own I guess
You unlock a secret ending ruclips.net/video/fnYZu-n5CiY/видео.html
Is this still working ?
Yup
Real 500 IQ; do you think this will be patched out?
Absolutely. But it doesn't matter since I already discovered another way to cheese this fight lol
K-keith Silverstein, is that you?
The one and only, ceo of geo!
I can see why Zhongli won the Archon War.
hes a gamur
Doing that you lose shit ton of stats because evolved troop have a better grow rating
stat growths are fixed. You don't lose anything lol
I swear... how do u manage to instruct us with Zhongli's voice!?
the power of geo
Why is the rock god teaching me how to rush this game?
Because he became a gamur after retiring
You are the best💯
Thanks, bud
This still works and I did it on expert
Nice!
I hope they patch the sellsword summon to be the lesser of your level or the map's level.
That's a bad exploit.
It's a very bad exploit. Better abuse it while you can!
It would be even worst if it would be the character level
Holy crap. That’s crazy.
insane
Leave it to general zhongli to do something like this lol
haha
Any% speedrun tactic
definitely!
Why the fuck does Summon Merc scale TO THE MAP'S LEVEL? Lmao this is getting patched for sure.
lmao its dumb
🤔Is this an AI voiceover?
maybe
yes
Naw, I'd win is insane. It's too early.
Lol
天才？
Are you genius?
wtf zhongli doing 💀
Hes gaming
Summon warriors are just 1 shotting the boss so I'm missing out on the XP. Idk lmao
Check the pinned message to do it the other way
@@GloriousGEO appreciate it! Keep up the great videos.
Nice job with the AI Zhongli voice rip-off, careful HOYOVERSE aka miHoYo might send its lawyer Harbingers after you!
DANG!
It gud
Is this an AI talking? Wtf
beep boop
Might be patched soon lol
Better abuse this quick hehe
Ouch man. You are evil ahahhahahahahahah
very hehe