Thanks for taking the time to make this video, one thing I would add. Would be the use of a bushing to drill or spot the holes. if you clamp everything Togher instead of using a transfer punch, drop a drill bushing in the hole and spot it with a 1/8 carbide drill this way a guy could do the job with some degree of Accuracy if he had only a band saw and a drill press.
I'm actually thinking about the same thing, but an Eaton Fuller 13 speed to a GM big block for towing. I know a big block gas engine would be kinda pathetic to put on an Eaton Fuller when they are on 13 to 16 liter diesel engines but it would be neat to see what it would do!
@@2010HarleyDynaFXD Seen this done with a syncromesh 12spd ZF out of a mercedes truck adapted to a ford 460cu in a 30ft motorhome towing a welding/engineering workshop in a 25' trailer behind it......guy that owned it was happy with it
You guys are like minded, I drive a Semi but hate driving a standard shift pickup truck. I want a pickup with a Semi transmission so I can float the gears. Most of the people I tell this just laugh.. good to know I'm not the only one.. lol
On a 4speed blowproof bellhousing. Get 1 that bolts up to transmission then cut off plate to moter .weld on a plate that will bolt to moter. Make sure that flywheel and clutch assembly will fit beforehand.
another quick way to make the adaptor is use 1/2 inch polycarbonate drill your locator hole then drill what holes you can then seperate block and transmission place the poly on the block mark and drill those then flip the poly and place on transmission then drill the rest of the holes and dowel holes easy as the poly is see through look where the holes are and mark and drill then you have a perfect template to transfer to steel plate or aluminium cheers from down under
Good information. I'm planning on making an engine to trans adapter plate to put an LS engine in my 1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer here pretty soon. Thank you.
KUDOS for starting from scratch for something that possibly can be purchased from MANY Adapter manufactures, BTW, you can lay out the shape, measurements & have someone put that design into a CAD file, then it can be burned/cut by a laser & be perfect, & probably save much time
Very clever thank you very much for your short RUclips video. Do you have any thoughts on an adapter plate for 350 GMC motor to build up to the transmission and transfer case of the Range Rover having the aluminum V8 4.6 L engine ? This original Rover engine Tooling and Patent purchased from GM in the 60’s, 70’s, or 80s. Allowed Range Rover to use the GM design in an Aluminum Block which they developed into a 4.6 L V8 engine. I would be very interested in trying this adaption to add a GMC V8 to the original Range Rover P38 if I could find the blueprints of the Rover Bell housing. Many thanks.
@@Pdfflyer1 that Rover v8 design is actually the Buick aluminum v8 from the early 60's design. Rover only updated a few things over the years until they ended production. There's a chance it's a common gm pattern for the bell housing but it's been years since i worked on one of those
i just wish the vehicle manufacturers would standardize on SAE bell housing dimensions, it would make things easier. the ford and cummins engines all have SAE dimensions either on the engine or the adapters. i made an adapter, it isn"t too hard if a mill is available
they should also standardize wheel rims. heavy goods vehicles all use 10 stud rims, cars should all use their own. there's no need for 10 different incompatible 4 stud rims. the waste is expensive, environmentally wasteful and completely avoidable without financial overhead if mandated on new designs. If the patent system makes it illegal to copy a bolt pattern then it needs to be reformed.
Did a diesel ford courier to Toyota 4x4 years ago, newest is a Mercedes 5cyl turbo diesel to a Dana 3 spd trans-transfer case in early cj6. Did same as you, but problem was clutch disc splinecount for disc which would fit pressure plate of Mercedes. Had customer disc made and release bearing was a hydraulic universal with a spacer over orig Dana front bearing cover to get proper distance to p/plate. Made pilot bearing from oilite bronze and all works as planned. Lots of head scratching but it’s not just trans plate to consider, that’s the easy part, the clutch can be the issue. This one was real odd, and domestic US will be much easier than my oddball combo. Just look at all parts needed and good luck
@@willisdaddy6100 i had all the same stuff first go round. I had drilled an engine flywheel for the transmission's clutch. Second time I changed the transmission input shaft to match the engine as it was an available upgrade.
I can’t think of a better occupation for a hot rodder to have than being a machinist. I can’t tell you how many home jobs I’ve done after hours. I’m lucky to have a great employer!
@@Iowa599 possibly over a very long time but I'm not worried about it. Been running a steel adapter vs the aluminum transmission in my other car for 6 years now with no corrosion between them. Not like it's getting pounded with winter road salt either.
@@rocketfarm5352 probably the only Olds 403 block to ever make over 550hp (it made 692) Probably be less power when it goes back together but it'll have way more durability... Probably still over 600 though
@rocketfarm5352 that's based off the NASCAR/mopar R8. I did it because the block is filled to within 1" of the deck which blocks flow between cylinders. So its injecting water at each cylinder
@@alvarobernal3845 starter mounts to the block so nothing changes there...i just clearance the transmission bell so it fits. Clutch release bearing height can be adjusted with an adjustable pivot for the fork. If hydraulic there's still adjustments that can be made to work out the height
what about instead of making a adapter plate, you take 2 bellhousings and weld them together, this seems way more easier then making a plate. you use a old bellhousing that will bolt to the engine and cut off the bellhousing bolt part, center the trans you are using on the engine with the pilot shaft, and measure and cut the trans bellhousing back so many inches etc, bolt the good bellhousing to the block, recenter the trans back on top and make sure clutch fork is centered in the correct location and trans is level with engine, and weld it up. no adapter needed. sure beats spending days cutting the adapter plate by hand with grinders etc.
@@turboimport95 that is an option however you would need both bell housings to start with. The biggest drawback of that method is the welding because welding warps stuff. No matter how good your alignment is before welding it will be off after welding. Off enough to matter or not really depends on the setup, work holding, and the person welding it. Thus would be a much better option if the transmission has a center hub that locates in the bell housing. You could line things up in a mill after welding and bore/sleeve that center to fit. Along with making sure the faces are still square and the holes all line up
Hmmm I wonder how my 1970 454 would run with a 10 speed Ford transmission behind it, it's got 600 hp now and with a 373 rearend I wonder in a 1971 Camaro what top end would be ?
@@randalwarkentin6460 that's not a far off option...i forget who, but a company is supposed to coming out with a 10 speed controller this month. Top speed probably won't change much. Most of the gears are acceleration gears not overdrives
It's so much easier with a detachable bell housing that has a register to tram off of. I did something similar to your setup but with an early AMC/Rambler 232 inline six and a chevy 700r4. It was a serious test of patience. Next one on the to do list is a John Deere 4045t powertech diesel with a SAE bell to a 4l60e or 4l80e.
@@jshafer51 definitely easier with a detached bell. But the whole reason I did this the first time was a 5 speed swap for under $1300. Buying new bolt on stuff would have been over $6k
Nice. Your pilot mandrel, is it in the back main only or the last two main caps? It must have been a revelation to find the 1/2 inch longer input shaft. I imagine it is made specifically 1/2 inch plate adapters Love the main girdle. I have not seen one like it before. Is it self built?
@@gordonborsboom7460 it's only in the rear main. I didn't have a long enough piece to get two mains but would have. The long input is actually just for the later trans case design. There was 01-04 and 05-10 which had some updates, including the longer input shaft. Main girdle is my design. Built is over 10 years ago and it held that weak, windowed main block together at nearly 700hp and 7500rpm
@ I was just adding an old Johnny Cash line from the old Cadillac song “one Piece at a Time”. I’ve fixed a few of my trannies over the years and luckily it was simple stuff like solenoids and valve bodies. Stay awesome!
CODY YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANY OF WHAT YOUR SAYING THE EASY WAY IS TO GET WALL LINING PAPER CUT TO ROUGH SIZE I.E CIRCLE THEN GET THE CENTRE OF THAT PLACE OVER THE BOX YOU WILL GET PERFECT GASKET PRINT TO SAME WITH BLOCK PLACE ONE OVER THE OTHER PUSH THROUGH ALL HOLES THAT LINE UP OTHER MAY NEED TO BE DRILLED AND TAPPED BOLT ONE PLATE THE THE OTHER WITH HOLES THAT LINE UP OR BOLT AND COUNTERSUNK BOLTS THAT WILL GET IN THE WAY SIMPLE AS THAT BUD
He said it bolts to a mod motor , meaning Ford 4.6 , 5.4 etc etc. So that means that is probably a T45 or a TR3650 from a 1996 to 2004 Mustang GT. The clutch cable guide hole in the bellhousing is what tells me it is pre 2005 as Ford switched to a hydraulic clutch for the 2005 year model.
I'm the father of a son who now drives a 1998 Toyota Tacoma Inline 4 2RZ. Anyone have recomendations for a more sporty transmission that is less "truck" feeling gears? *EDIT* It's a 5 speed manual Base Model Tacoma.
@@Springfield-eo8jl there is probably another Toyota trans from a car that would bolt up. But what you really might be looking for is a better shifter. A good shifter with positive gear engagement feel, no slop, and a shorter throw do a lot to improve the experience of shifting gears
@Springfield-eo8jl you might be pretty impressed change a shifter does. Everyone says BMW M3 is a wonderful driving machine... I drove an E46 and thought the shifter was hot garbage compared to the shifter on my car
@codysmithmotorsports736 we're going to give it a go, not sure how long the transmission is going to last. Shifting from 2nd to 3rd it grinds, the shift stick has a big vibration in 3rd and 5th gear. It's popped out of 3rd a couple times.
@Springfield-eo8jl sounds like it needs syncros and to make sure nothing is bent or loose with the shift forks/mechanics internally. If you don't mind taking things apart transmissions are pretty easy and only need a couple tools and a press to rebuild
I'm so tired of automatics.....the power it robs to operate them, and the money it costs to fix them. I could really get into adapter plates that would allow the change and use of a standard transmission for whatever vehicle one wants to build
@@rogereastman3187 that's the point I'm trying to make here. Any swap can be done if you have the parts and take the time to figure it out. Some stuff might not fit with a thin adapter plate but if you're willing to make it work there is always a way by spacing them farther apart until it does work
@@stevenpellegrino997 you do realize that yes you can hook anything to anything...the C5/C6/C7 corvettes all have the engine in front and the transmission in the rear. Move them far enough apart and anything is possible
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Thanks for taking the time to make this video, one thing I would add. Would be the use of a bushing to drill or spot the holes. if you clamp everything Togher instead of using a transfer punch, drop a drill bushing in the hole and spot it with a 1/8 carbide drill this way a guy could do the job with some degree of Accuracy if he had only a band saw and a drill press.
@@petem6291 agree completely
AWSOME! Now I can put that 18-speed Eaton Fuller behind the I4 in my 1978 pinto wagon! 🥳
I'm actually thinking about the same thing, but an Eaton Fuller 13 speed to a GM big block for towing. I know a big block gas engine would be kinda pathetic to put on an Eaton Fuller when they are on 13 to 16 liter diesel engines but it would be neat to see what it would do!
I was thinking 18-speed in an rx7 with a 13b 2-rotor. Let’s see how quickly you can get through all 18 gears!
@@2010HarleyDynaFXD Seen this done with a syncromesh 12spd ZF out of a mercedes truck adapted to a ford 460cu in a 30ft motorhome towing a welding/engineering workshop in a 25' trailer behind it......guy that owned it was happy with it
You guys are like minded, I drive a Semi but hate driving a standard shift pickup truck. I want a pickup with a Semi transmission so I can float the gears. Most of the people I tell this just laugh.. good to know I'm not the only one.. lol
@@redneckexpress5575 Yep. I feel re tar ded when I have to drive a regular manual transmission and use the clutch.
A piece of plexiglass can be helpfull as a template..
@@kbird7112 definitely could use that too
Polycarbonate is better for drilling it doesn’t crack like plexiglass
Or delrin is nice to work with.@@shannonDRAGRACEING
Thst a great idea
On a 4speed blowproof bellhousing. Get 1 that bolts up to transmission then cut off plate to moter .weld on a plate that will bolt to moter. Make sure that flywheel and clutch assembly will fit beforehand.
another quick way to make the adaptor is use 1/2 inch polycarbonate drill your locator hole then drill what holes you can then seperate block and transmission place the poly on the block mark and drill those then flip the poly and place on transmission then drill the rest of the holes and dowel holes easy as the poly is see through look where the holes are and mark and drill then you have a perfect template to transfer to steel plate or aluminium cheers from down under
Make a video mate haha
Good information.
I'm planning on making an engine to trans adapter plate to put an LS engine in my 1990 Jeep Grand Wagoneer here pretty soon. Thank you.
Depending which transmission you're using you may not need anything custom. Give me some more details if you don't mind
I'm mind boggled as to why you dont have more subscribers yet!
@@quantumleap8888 working on it
The most important part of doing this. is having the input shaft line up exactly. with the pilot bushing/bearing in the rear of the crankshaft.
KUDOS for starting from scratch for something that possibly can be purchased from MANY Adapter manufactures, BTW, you can lay out the shape, measurements & have someone put that design into a CAD file, then it can be burned/cut by a laser & be perfect, & probably save much time
@@REVNUMANEWBERN i originally did this swap for less than $1300 when all the stuff to buy would have been over $6k
@@codysmithmotorsports736 👍❤
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Very clever thank you very much for your short RUclips video. Do you have any thoughts on an adapter plate for 350 GMC motor to build up to the transmission and transfer case of the Range Rover having the aluminum V8 4.6 L engine ? This original Rover engine Tooling and Patent purchased from GM in the 60’s, 70’s, or 80s.
Allowed Range Rover to use the GM design in an Aluminum Block which they developed into a 4.6 L V8 engine. I would be very interested in trying this adaption to add a GMC V8 to the original Range Rover P38 if I could find the blueprints of the Rover Bell housing. Many thanks.
@@Pdfflyer1 that Rover v8 design is actually the Buick aluminum v8 from the early 60's design. Rover only updated a few things over the years until they ended production. There's a chance it's a common gm pattern for the bell housing but it's been years since i worked on one of those
i just wish the vehicle manufacturers would standardize on SAE bell housing dimensions, it would make things easier. the ford and cummins engines all have SAE dimensions either on the engine or the adapters. i made an adapter, it isn"t too hard if a mill is available
@@joshmyers-nt9dr yeah things get way easier if they're standard patterns or the prints are available
they should also standardize wheel rims. heavy goods vehicles all use 10 stud rims, cars should all use their own. there's no need for 10 different incompatible 4 stud rims. the waste is expensive, environmentally wasteful and completely avoidable without financial overhead if mandated on new designs. If the patent system makes it illegal to copy a bolt pattern then it needs to be reformed.
Thanks for sharing your experience
@@zjtr10since80 no problem
Nice work, good explanations on how to do process. 👍
Just subscribed to your channel.
Thanks for sharing. 👍🇺🇸👍
@@edsmachine93 thanks
Did a diesel ford courier to Toyota 4x4 years ago, newest is a Mercedes 5cyl turbo diesel to a Dana 3 spd trans-transfer case in early cj6. Did same as you, but problem was clutch disc splinecount for disc which would fit pressure plate of Mercedes. Had customer disc made and release bearing was a hydraulic universal with a spacer over orig Dana front bearing cover to get proper distance to p/plate. Made pilot bearing from oilite bronze and all works as planned. Lots of head scratching but it’s not just trans plate to consider, that’s the easy part, the clutch can be the issue. This one was real odd, and domestic US will be much easier than my oddball combo. Just look at all parts needed and good luck
@@willisdaddy6100 i had all the same stuff first go round. I had drilled an engine flywheel for the transmission's clutch. Second time I changed the transmission input shaft to match the engine as it was an available upgrade.
I can’t think of a better occupation for a hot rodder to have than being a machinist. I can’t tell you how many home jobs I’ve done after hours. I’m lucky to have a great employer!
@@robertwest3093 it sure helps with getting things done
What is this wonderful transmission you had to have, that caused all this work it took to mount it ????
@@rogereastman3187 having a functional 5 speed swap for less than $1300 when the bolt on option was over $6000
Sure.....but what exactly is this wonderful transmission....who makes it.......
Seems to me one would go through all that work to mount a Allison
By the way....regardless of my automatic transmission views.....your video, and creativity is awesome....thanks
@rogereastman3187 it's a Tremec 3650 from an 01-04 mustang
I'm interested in the steel & aluminum sandwich...
do you anticipate any corrosion between them?
@@Iowa599 possibly over a very long time but I'm not worried about it. Been running a steel adapter vs the aluminum transmission in my other car for 6 years now with no corrosion between them.
Not like it's getting pounded with winter road salt either.
That's an entire transmission!
Thanks great video makes it looks easy for an adapter also that Oldsmobile block has a lot mods I have never seen before
@@rocketfarm5352 probably the only Olds 403 block to ever make over 550hp (it made 692)
Probably be less power when it goes back together but it'll have way more durability... Probably still over 600 though
@@codysmithmotorsports736 Like the cooling mod will try it
@rocketfarm5352 that's based off the NASCAR/mopar R8. I did it because the block is filled to within 1" of the deck which blocks flow between cylinders. So its injecting water at each cylinder
goog video but I dident understand the starter distance and the clutch release bearing travel
@@alvarobernal3845 starter mounts to the block so nothing changes there...i just clearance the transmission bell so it fits. Clutch release bearing height can be adjusted with an adjustable pivot for the fork. If hydraulic there's still adjustments that can be made to work out the height
JZ35 to my Regius van gearbox?
You can adapt any transmission to any engine. But it may not work.
Nah, my neighbor kid loves having a 13-speed Eaton Fuller behind the 5.5 HP B+S in his go-cart now. 😋
what about instead of making a adapter plate, you take 2 bellhousings and weld them together, this seems way more easier then making a plate. you use a old bellhousing that will bolt to the engine and cut off the bellhousing bolt part, center the trans you are using on the engine with the pilot shaft, and measure and cut the trans bellhousing back so many inches etc, bolt the good bellhousing to the block, recenter the trans back on top and make sure clutch fork is centered in the correct location and trans is level with engine, and weld it up. no adapter needed. sure beats spending days cutting the adapter plate by hand with grinders etc.
@@turboimport95 that is an option however you would need both bell housings to start with. The biggest drawback of that method is the welding because welding warps stuff. No matter how good your alignment is before welding it will be off after welding. Off enough to matter or not really depends on the setup, work holding, and the person welding it.
Thus would be a much better option if the transmission has a center hub that locates in the bell housing. You could line things up in a mill after welding and bore/sleeve that center to fit. Along with making sure the faces are still square and the holes all line up
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@@papergatorzfedducca7998 thanks
Hmmm I wonder how my 1970 454 would run with a 10 speed Ford transmission behind it, it's got 600 hp now and with a 373 rearend I wonder in a 1971 Camaro what top end would be ?
@@randalwarkentin6460 that's not a far off option...i forget who, but a company is supposed to coming out with a 10 speed controller this month.
Top speed probably won't change much. Most of the gears are acceleration gears not overdrives
US Shift
Can you use plexiglass to make the template?
@@jocarr1791 really you could use just about anything as a template. I make mine straight from the material I'm making the adapter with
I found a cheap thin one on temu. Im just afraid it will have too much flex
Im trying to adapt a 5.7 hemi to my bmw x5 transmission
@@rodriguezluisu87 that's an interesting swap
Thank you
thanks now I got it
Sweet.
It's so much easier with a detachable bell housing that has a register to tram off of. I did something similar to your setup but with an early AMC/Rambler 232 inline six and a chevy 700r4. It was a serious test of patience. Next one on the to do list is a John Deere 4045t powertech diesel with a SAE bell to a 4l60e or 4l80e.
@@jshafer51 definitely easier with a detached bell. But the whole reason I did this the first time was a 5 speed swap for under $1300. Buying new bolt on stuff would have been over $6k
Can I put a three on the tree in my Enzo?
@@RobertWill-uq3iv if you want to bad enough
Nice. Your pilot mandrel, is it in the back main only or the last two main caps?
It must have been a revelation to find the 1/2 inch longer input shaft. I imagine it is made specifically 1/2 inch plate adapters
Love the main girdle. I have not seen one like it before. Is it self built?
@@gordonborsboom7460 it's only in the rear main. I didn't have a long enough piece to get two mains but would have.
The long input is actually just for the later trans case design. There was 01-04 and 05-10 which had some updates, including the longer input shaft.
Main girdle is my design. Built is over 10 years ago and it held that weak, windowed main block together at nearly 700hp and 7500rpm
Worth at least trying to build your own since all the adapters and kits are no less than $1000. Most of the time more.
@@buckshot927tx exactly. I did the original 5 speed swap for less than $1300. Buying the bolt on parts and a new trans would have been over $6k
I lined it up and all the holes were gone! 🎶
@@slagletoby and they fixed that with a drill
@ I was just adding an old Johnny Cash line from the old Cadillac song “one Piece at a Time”.
I’ve fixed a few of my trannies over the years and luckily it was simple stuff like solenoids and valve bodies.
Stay awesome!
@slagletoby I know the song well
CODY YOU DON'T NEED TO DO ANY OF WHAT YOUR SAYING THE EASY WAY IS TO GET WALL LINING PAPER CUT TO ROUGH SIZE I.E CIRCLE THEN GET THE CENTRE OF THAT PLACE OVER THE BOX YOU WILL GET PERFECT GASKET PRINT TO SAME WITH BLOCK PLACE ONE OVER THE OTHER PUSH THROUGH ALL HOLES THAT LINE UP OTHER MAY NEED TO BE DRILLED AND TAPPED BOLT ONE PLATE THE THE OTHER WITH HOLES THAT LINE UP OR BOLT AND COUNTERSUNK BOLTS THAT WILL GET IN THE WAY SIMPLE AS THAT BUD
What transmission is that yours using?
@@jeromeirving4770 Tremec 3650
He said it bolts to a mod motor , meaning Ford 4.6 , 5.4 etc etc. So that means that is probably a T45 or a TR3650 from a 1996 to 2004 Mustang GT. The clutch cable guide hole in the bellhousing is what tells me it is pre 2005 as Ford switched to a hydraulic clutch for the 2005 year model.
I'm the father of a son who now drives a 1998 Toyota Tacoma Inline 4 2RZ. Anyone have recomendations for a more sporty transmission that is less "truck" feeling gears?
*EDIT* It's a 5 speed manual Base Model Tacoma.
@@Springfield-eo8jl there is probably another Toyota trans from a car that would bolt up.
But what you really might be looking for is a better shifter. A good shifter with positive gear engagement feel, no slop, and a shorter throw do a lot to improve the experience of shifting gears
@codysmithmotorsports736 a short throw shifter is one of his Xmas presents. Looking for later down the road.
@Springfield-eo8jl you might be pretty impressed change a shifter does.
Everyone says BMW M3 is a wonderful driving machine... I drove an E46 and thought the shifter was hot garbage compared to the shifter on my car
@codysmithmotorsports736 we're going to give it a go, not sure how long the transmission is going to last. Shifting from 2nd to 3rd it grinds, the shift stick has a big vibration in 3rd and 5th gear. It's popped out of 3rd a couple times.
@Springfield-eo8jl sounds like it needs syncros and to make sure nothing is bent or loose with the shift forks/mechanics internally.
If you don't mind taking things apart transmissions are pretty easy and only need a couple tools and a press to rebuild
I'm so tired of automatics.....the power it robs to operate them, and the money it costs to fix them. I could really get into adapter plates that would allow the change and use of a standard transmission for whatever vehicle one wants to build
@@rogereastman3187 that's the point I'm trying to make here. Any swap can be done if you have the parts and take the time to figure it out. Some stuff might not fit with a thin adapter plate but if you're willing to make it work there is always a way by spacing them farther apart until it does work
Any transmission to any engine huh..
Okay. Hyundai excel 5 speed to a big block caddy. Should be easy.
Ok so i want to see you connect an honda 4cycl trans to D9 dozen. You said any.. how about a 6v ford. To wire transmission from WWII 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@stevenpellegrino997 you do realize that yes you can hook anything to anything...the C5/C6/C7 corvettes all have the engine in front and the transmission in the rear. Move them far enough apart and anything is possible
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