Minor thing about tire damage, it depends on your speed. Fully deflated tires, drive slow to avoid damage. Mid deflated tires, can drive faster but will damage tires if you go full throttle.
It seems that they have improved the physics a little, the problem with so many vehicles is that the physics are bad, this is why MudRunner is better in this section, it only has a couple of vehicles without being able to modify almost anything... The advantage of basically having only few vehicles, without modification than 50 vehicles with 300 modifications.... That's the problem with Snowrunner
I think being a new game...there should be more new vehicles... atleast half in base game alone but right now the 3 new vehicles we have is also including 1 DLC vehicle...so base game only has 2 new vehicles
@@SD1ONE I remember when snowrunner first came out, there were so many brand new vehicles from brand new brands not seen in the game before. It was so exciting to try them all out. Then vehicles from the previous game got slowly introduced through dlc with a big overhall to there customisation. I just dont see that with expeditions
The latest Snowrunner dlcs' middle scouts are kinda identical and useless in new maps. The Devs should have save some scouts for Expedition and add more trucks to Snowrunner.
This game will almost certainly have Mostly Negative reviews on Steam in the first 3 days of launch. This would have made an awesome and revitalizing DLC for Snowrunner which could use some of these features but I think they simply missed the mark with this one and additionally dragged the Mudrunner name through the mud in the process. Best outcome is we get some of these features on Snowrunner which would be welcomed.
Gamers should start learning something about game delevopment. That would prevent those bad reviews. Snowrunner has received content and updates for years. This would have been a dlc in the size if a new game so… they made it a new game of course….
Only recently got into SNowrunner (buddy was playing and recommended it for the co-op, just to tool around). I almost wish we had decided on this one instead, as the exploration aspect definitely appeals to me more than the cargo delivery in Snowrunner (still having fun with it). Some of these mechanics, like the two-way winch and the tire pressure, would be awesome to see in Snow though.
The physics, "weight", tire pressure manipulation, suspension types, add-on freedom, etc. all seem better than in Snowrunner. Kind of sucks all of it is "wasted" on a side game like this. Hope that all these changes will make it to the next -Runner, if it ever gets made.
What’s wasted here? It’s a fully fledged game. Calling it sidegame is only ment to emphasis its different approach to the series, although it is of course a full fledged successor. Of course it made more sense to create something new as for snowrunner everything is basically already in the game with all its content and updates. A new version of the same thing wouldn’t have made sense.
@@Seitenwerk it's basically an arcade snowrunner without details or actual difficulty. Like they figured out that if stuff you haul is under a tarp, you don't have to model it. It's a low effort game that should've been a DLC or an update to snowrunner. 3 new vehicules (1 locked behind paywall), "experts" with perks to appeal the casual crowd, now spillage when hauling stuff, trucks are more planted. Half the fun of snowrunner is taking a risky path to save time, but flipping, because you made a mistake.
I agree, And is one of the reasons of why I'll never buy expeditions. We have been asking these changes for ages in SR and they put them in another game....
1 part of me feel sad that dev just stick to old SR engine without a next-gen physic upgrad, but the other part of me feel happy because then I can port all thses new assets into Mudrunner to improve it even more
@@kennythemeat only those who haven't played say "they haven't added anything new". They most certainly did add new stuff, but it doesn't make the game any more interesting, alas.
You can’t please everyone except for me apparently. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. I love snow runner, but I find myself exploring and looking for modifications more than I am hauling the cargo. Satisfied so far.
I started out on spin tires on PC years ago. Never got snow or mud runner. I downloaded it on the fifth on Xbox. My son and I have thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@jbw5485 Wow! I cant believe you've never played Snowrunner, well if you enjoyed this newest game, expeditions, you and your son would love snowrunner. Which is a lot different from Spin tires and the original mudrunner, and really similar to the new mudrunner
@@raidermaxx2324 I’ll have to check it out. 👍🏼 I honestly wasn’t aware it was on Xbox because I always thought the mud runner and snow runners were just second and third iterations of spin tires which was only available on PC.
@@jbw5485 it might just be on PS4 then? but as someone who is a PC owner, i just assumed that since it is made on a PC for PC's, that it would naturally be on XBOX since XBOX is a windows based mini-computer. ah yes i just checked it is now available on all platforms . It has sooooo much content its crazy .. it will literally take you forever hahahaha. I'm still not done with it and play it all the time. but i dont have a kid to play it with, so you are lucky with that. It's my dream to one day play a video game with my kid.. Anyways. yea check it out!
Also now if you take a jack with you it can be used to upright any turned over truck. They definitely wanted to make this game easier and try to appeal to a new audience. For me half the fun of Mudrunner and Snowrunner is knowing one mistake can mean having to start all the way over.
I just had that magnetic stone glitch cripple me in snowrunner to lol, and idk about the shared tire dmg. I would love to see a system implemented where damaged tires would lose pressure over time based off of how damaged they are so if you aren't on top of things you could easily turn a lightly damaged low tire into a flat.
I don't see much future for it, they could have released it in phases in Years 4 and given SnowRunner a good change. I only see DLC, recycled and the same graphics engine.
@@SD1ONE Look, we get that it cant be implemented as DLC. What we are saying is that they should have added all of these features to SR from the start. Instead of making a new game out of SR's assets and charging full price for it. They are only doing this so that they can have two "vending machines" to sell extra DLC from.
@@CelticKnot463 Most of these features couldn't be added to SR without changing the engine in SR, which would make many features in sr stop working. This could not have been a dlc. simple as that. The engine in Exp is heavily modified from the SR engine
From someone that is now actively playing this game, I can say that it looks and feels better than SnowRunner. It's much more enjoyable and it's loads of fun. The cartoonish look is only in certain regions like Colorado. In the forest theme it looks pretty good!
@@SD1ONE i maybe missed something, but judging by this and your previous video about this game: There aren't really like game changing differences between this game and snowrunner, sure we now have drones, tires can be deflated and missions are a little different, but it's hardly a significant difference I can be wrong thought since the game isn't finished yet, but I doubt they will implement something what will for sure make this game more different than snowrunner, therefore, this should've been a dlc, or at least a separate gamemode for snowrunner
They should go back to their roots and do either a direct sequel to Spintires or Mudrunner with a focus on larger map exploration instead of all these smaller maps.
I played It and It is very fun, rocks phisics are a thousand times better than Snowrunner, here you can do rock crawling. All the new things as anchors, drones are really cool and open a whole new world of possibilities.
Considering they've reused assets from SR into this game and slap a price tag of a new game, I reckon it's only fair that they also give SR some free updates of QoL changes, and maybe add some badlands into SR's 4th Season Pass.
@@raidermaxx2324well at least it doesnt seem like a lazy cashgrab like most other studios would throw out i feel like theres at least some passion going into this work
It seems fun but I think the no trailers thing kinda kills it unfortunately. I’d like to see some sort of child between this and snowrunner eventually.
I kinda wish they stuck with snowrunner style stuff, the upgrades and paint feel so cluttered and hard to look at, after playing the game myself I can pretty comfortably say ill always be using thr solid tone paints
I like the title. There are new impressions and challenges. I will only play it when Professional Expedition Vehicles appear. I'm waiting for the work of the Ambitious Modding Community. Current vehicles are ridiculous and caricatured. They do not reflect the immersion of a real Expedition. Professional gameplay recordings will definitely appear on my YT channel. Greetings to fans of this series!
I'm about 25 hours in and it's FUN, yet disappointing. I feel like the vast majority of features in SR are absent here and they were replaced with.. nothing. We got like 2 new gadgets and a drone, other than that.. nadda. You can't juggle fuel between trucks, there is NO quick-menu, NO top-down (side scroll) menu, NO juggling repair parts between trucks, NO real garage, NO switching trucks on the fly (now have to navigate multiple sub-menus JUST to switch trucks sitting right next to eachother which is unbearably unintuitive.) Also the day and night cycle is WEAK, the sunsets and sunrises barely happen, it's just kind of night/day all of a sudden which is pretty pathetic considering how gorgeous and well designed those features were in SR.. headlights are weaker (don't reflect off of objects nearly as much) and night time in general is so BRIGHT you don't even really need your headlights.) The UI is atrocious, utterly terrible, the main menu is like your garage now which is incredibly inconvenient and immersion breaking. The driving itself is great, physics are great, trucks drive well and feel more realistically weighted than in SR. I have over 2000 hrs in the SR universe and I'm still not sick of that game.. Expiditions however I could totally see me being mentally done with in a few months.. also the maps are WAY SMALLER and there are FAR FEWER than in Snowrunner.. idk. Not a 'bad' game but I would call it a major step down from it's predecessor. The environmental laziness really bothered me, obviously the day night cycle in SR was a MAJOR drawing point of the game as it added depth and realism and beauty into the games playability.. so they just REMOVE that entirely.. ugh. I can't say it's a bad game because I'm still playing it, but I CAN say WAIT for a SALE. I wouldn't have paid the $70 I did if I had known what this game really was beforehand. Saber got lazy, and greedy, and Expiditions kind of just screams "CHEAPER!!" to experienced players such as myself (when in comparison to SnowRunner.) Even the cargo was changed from varying different (sometimes very interesting) objects to a gold colored cloth that sways in the wind and this is REGARDLESS of what youre hauling, can you say LAZINESS? WAIT, Wait until it's $20, and then you'll have your money's worth. I need a new driving Sim. Sorry Saber, but after this I feel our 10 year relationship may be coming to an end.. stick with the new greed-model, and lose loyal fanbse. The choice is yours. This isn't a new game its a DLC and we ALL know it. 👎 If I had to give any advice of substance I'd say immediately fire whoever designed your UI for this game. They even put the GEARBOX shifter as R1 instead of L1, which means you have to use the same finger as the GAS PEDAL to shift.. HOW was that not realized before release?!? Unbelievable guys.
Agreed on the no water damage, that's insanely stupid. I love a lot about this game but there are a lot questionable choices too. Maybe someone will make a "Realism" mod for it...
yup... the version I played isn't like fully ready for release but it's the version they gave to reviewers, youtubers... so I can only judge it through this version
the game is interesting and different but the main problem i have with spillproof cargo and stuff it just takes away the aspect of snowrunner and mudrunner that makes it cool the fact that its hard and challenging being able to just use an achor and not need a rescue truck just isnt my style
With the DLC. I know when I bought SR and the first "pass" I had the Bandit and Marshall in my garage at the start. Though no extra unlocks (that really does feel like cheating) I'm glad the tire pressures are back, good that the suspension seems to be overhauled too.
I cant wait for the next Snowrunner like game. They really need to outdo themselves with the next one and stand tall and proud of what they create. Add in all the features and trucks fans have been asking about.
I love this game. I wanted a sucessor of Mudrunner and i become a sucessor of Mudrunner. Some of the haters should learn, that Mudrunner isnt Snowrunner.
@@VCN01Part of me hopes that it is a bug, and either of these things will be done: 1. The water damage buff will be reduced to, say, -20% or something 2. Vehicle will still have no water damage, but upon submerging its engine will shut off until you get it out of water
flipping is basically meaningless now and i was really hoping for hard mode on launch this time such a shame my home state is part of this failure of a game im going to go play sailwind I was so hopeful for this
As a Mudrunner fanboy, I have to say those trucks look like toys, wth. Plus the wip addons and bumpers having the wrong hitboxes is absolutely insane, the fact that a half assed mod from MR doesn't get that wrong but a car from this new game does is kinda crazy and doesn't speak great about the company behind it
Probably gonna stop and hold at SR. Heck, I still go back to MR just cause the griddy, muddy, mechanical feel that game has. There are things MR had that I wish SR had. Thankfully they finally fixed the trucks no smoking a lot in SR. Now they smoke like they are supposed to. 👍
I want to be excited for this game, because I loved how the trucks felt in Mudrunner. They just felt like they existed in that living space they were in. I hope they don't loop the engine sounds like in SR.
As a major Snowrunner fan, i think i`m gonna get this game too despite few shortcomings. If mods are supported the same way as SR this is gonna be so fun.
Would be cool to be able to get out and put chains or a platform under tires when its stuck, or be able to dig it out with a shovel like the old dakar rally games, they could have done so much more but it just seems like an easier and more boring snowrunner, some additions seem neat and Ill probably grab it on a sale to play with friends but really was hoping for a bit more of a step up innovation wise
Great info. Thanks, Didn't knew about some of these details. Glad to see couple of modded vehicles are already available at early start. Just finished first mission, Thought will check for some tips 😉
Loving the videos!! You have to check out the door sticker called "I beat the game!" under customizations, make sure you scan it. It's an epic Easter egg!!!
I do not really see the point of this game, since it is very similar to SR. Of course there are some welcome additions, but in other places it is inferior to SR. So what is it? I hope they will not pour all ressources into this game, but start developement on Snowrunners real successor.
It's for people like me who grew tired of SR quite quickly, blasting on roads in high range then down to low+diff lock when you hit mud got boring when you had to do the same delivery 3 times. Great fun with friends tho!
Good Video, thank you. Developpers give me feelings they are trying to sell me Snowrunner a second time ... This Expedition Game is just another DLC for Snowrunner ! And still don't understand what is the real purpose with this "Expedition". Ok, i will wait and see ...
Looks very promising. I’ll start playing later tonight. The new AFIM (Italian truck) S1960 is probably my favourite from the looks alone. It’s so nice to have battery winch for small trucks like the Warthog (which it should have in SR as well) or the new Italian. I will certainly give the small ones a chance especially since their tire buff. Can’t wait until you’ll eventually do truck comparisons 👍
Does this one have gameplay that will satisfy the "rock-crawling" crowd? I'm not one of them, but it has always been a thread of interest in the spintires-and-beyond community and seems like an opportunity to take care of that.
Just wanted to point out it’s 19 vehicles you had 2 tuz 16 actaeons in the second row. Only 4 SE trucks. Great video though sd1one keep up the good work
Mine and probably 99 percent of others has 1 special edition tuz so you should show the difference in the 2 special editions cuz I only have 1. Maybe since you got a copy yours is different.
If you drive in auto or higher speeds with the tires aired down to the lowest setting, they will get damaged. There doesn’t seem to be anything causing damage to a single tire. But when you repair, it repairs all tires together.
Expeditions is a great add on, and i like that you can do something else then wood hauling. But its just that, an add on. For charging a full price, there must be more than this.
This seems like one of those "We improved what lacked in our last game but forgot that it was meant to be a sequel" situations where the game could've very well been an update to snowrunner (kinda like what happened to FH4 > FH5) that also needs more time in the oven.
@@MrChineseFood Thats kind-off what i meant. If they wanted to do a spin-off, considering the current state of snowrunner, they could've made it a big DLC and include the vehicles (since theyre so similar) and maps there. The only reason for them to release a new title would be a sequel, one that improves many lacking aspects of Snowrunner, but they focused on that to the point where it just feels like a spin-off that forgot to be different or unique from the past game.
Choosing where you want to winch with the mouse is a HUGE improvement. *Edit*...nevermind, i just realized you could do that in the first game. Trying to find the right pinch point with a controller is a damn nightmare, but after watching this video i realized i could do it with my mouse....thank God lol
Can't imagine the new scout's being any better than my "YAR". Unless they've altered to the N-th degree, the way in which one can completely destroy their engine and or transmission, not to mention one or more tire's, when driving over even the smallest of rock's. Wanting to play as realistic as a game will allow is impossible in this game without the use of mod's that make playing the game more realistic. In real life, one purchases the various thing's to install on their four wheeler's. Various thing's that allow them to drive over big rock's let alone small ones. With out the various mod's modder's provide. Playing mud runner or snow runner in any way short of the N-th degree. Is going to spend most of their effort making credit's in repairing cost. Which when one in real life will spend credit's to avoid such issue's. One must in this game mod it.
i wish they would make this game in year 2 and change it up were your scouting best routes+ places to build roads and bulidings / grages / gas stations then half way in year 2 or 3 u start buliding the infrastructure to do what mudrunner and snowrunner do best and they can leave all this exploring stuff as side quests
I just want a dedicated Gearbox system on Snowrunner to play using Keyboard😂. If I was a beginner in Snowrunner, I would have loved the flatbed system for cargo in Expedition(I still like it), but, I kinda enjoy the long heavy trailer hauling through bumpy roads more 🤣
So in general: USA/Europe + old af russian vehicles + futuristic tech and addons + ugly repaints. Makes zero sense to me. I'll stick to SnowRunner for now.
Considering it's only 40 and comes with the same amount of map content as two seasons of SR in addition to the new changes, it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. It may not "look" as good as SR but it feels better. Actually feel like I'm off-roading now. I'd rate it a solid 7/10. Now let's hope they stick true to their word and add some these changes to SR at some point.
man, expeditions seems like a huge disappointment... all the ressources it ate up should've been put into Snowrunner. Snowrunner deserves all these new features and engine improvements... most of us have spent so much money on the DLCs for snowrunner it feels like a scam not getting any new features like expeditions has. I won't be buying the year 4 pass for snowrunner unless they actually give us some good quality of life updates and features.
Devs vision is different now...At time of MR, the game was a biche and the focus was not to cater the crowd but the corr fans but now the game is popular thus the focus is making more money by catering the crowd at expense of core fan base...I hope the next main runner entry balance out the crowd and core fans equally.
These require changes in core functionality so maybe in next main entry... until then They should do experiments in this game to see what works and what not
Theres something off with the grip of tires. For example in the starting area theres car ramps for a service platform you need 4wd to even climb it, my small car irl can climb those and i seen real 4x4 "climb" a 90
Coming here some months after release, I'll be honest, this game is basically just an SR year pass with some QOL changes and a different UI font, built-in cheat devices, more scout focus and it's sold/marketed as a different game. That's it. Edit: Just after writing this I thought they could just add the customizable roof racks, better addon combos and better upgrades to SR and make more profit from it than Expeditions.
Like Farming Sim and snow runner, mods make this game worth it. On snow runner I at least completed 3 maps before mods were even announced, on expeditions I started with mods installed 😂
As long as the base game vehicles are not 'nerfed' in a way to make completing tasks unnecessarily difficult while DLC vehicles make it sightly easier I'm ok with that. Some can spend money on easy mode as long as they didn't intentionally cripple the base vehicles to force DLC purchasing. As for the bugs... let's hope less than SR on release both gameplay, UI and achievements. I hoped to see Paystar 5070 again, that truck carried me through most of SR and I preferred it over Voron or Tayga.
I think trucks like Paystar don't belong in this game...they added step, loadstar but IMO they're also not suitable choice...trucks like tatra which are actually used for such extreme offroading would look better in this game but that's just my opinion.
Yeah I don’t know I just see this as a case where the studio had better then expected success on snowrunner so they thought let’s capitalize on it, I feel like this is a nickel and dime your original lovers of the franchise thing. Just my opinion though, look at all the paid dlc trucks that honestly should have free in the seasons, now look they can make even more paid dlc vehicles.
I've already paid for about 95% of SnowRunners DLC. Im not about to do it again on another game. They are turning them both into vending machines and its annoying.
@CelticKnot463 Idiot. No one is forcing you to buy it, just like no one is forcing you to buy everything at shop. Do you instead want developers to abandon the game?
So how is it that in a game with more open areas, slower trucks are better than in SnowRunner? To me, it's the complete opposite. Aside from that difference in opinions, great video. Thank you.
I have been playing it since yesterday on the PS5, and it is unfortunate that it does not use haptic feedback on the controller. I am enjoying the game though.
I'll update this comment as per mistakes or new updates:
- 9:06 there're 12 returning vehicles from SR not 11, I forgot krs bandit.
How are the physics? Is it simplified like in Snowrunner?
physics is more or less the same but truck physics is more slow pace than SR
Minor thing about tire damage, it depends on your speed. Fully deflated tires, drive slow to avoid damage. Mid deflated tires, can drive faster but will damage tires if you go full throttle.
Only 3 new vehicles that we havent seen in snowrunner seems pretty lazy to me tbh
It seems that they have improved the physics a little, the problem with so many vehicles is that the physics are bad, this is why MudRunner is better in this section, it only has a couple of vehicles without being able to modify almost anything... The advantage of basically having only few vehicles, without modification than 50 vehicles with 300 modifications.... That's the problem with Snowrunner
Honestly my first turn off tbh
I think being a new game...there should be more new vehicles... atleast half in base game alone but right now the 3 new vehicles we have is also including 1 DLC vehicle...so base game only has 2 new vehicles
@@SD1ONE I remember when snowrunner first came out, there were so many brand new vehicles from brand new brands not seen in the game before. It was so exciting to try them all out. Then vehicles from the previous game got slowly introduced through dlc with a big overhall to there customisation. I just dont see that with expeditions
The latest Snowrunner dlcs' middle scouts are kinda identical and useless in new maps. The Devs should have save some scouts for Expedition and add more trucks to Snowrunner.
This game will almost certainly have Mostly Negative reviews on Steam in the first 3 days of launch. This would have made an awesome and revitalizing DLC for Snowrunner which could use some of these features but I think they simply missed the mark with this one and additionally dragged the Mudrunner name through the mud in the process. Best outcome is we get some of these features on Snowrunner which would be welcomed.
Lets not forget the elefant in the room of not even having multiplayer according to the steam tags lol
@@L0v0lup They mentioned coop in the last video before release
My Bad ^^@@MalluPCGamer
Well hopefully Steam take those reviews down then if they are not reviewing the actual game
Gamers should start learning something about game delevopment. That would prevent those bad reviews. Snowrunner has received content and updates for years. This would have been a dlc in the size if a new game so… they made it a new game of course….
Only recently got into SNowrunner (buddy was playing and recommended it for the co-op, just to tool around).
I almost wish we had decided on this one instead, as the exploration aspect definitely appeals to me more than the cargo delivery in Snowrunner (still having fun with it). Some of these mechanics, like the two-way winch and the tire pressure, would be awesome to see in Snow though.
Snow is honestly better, only missing a couple things like the tire pressure thing
There are no roadsigns for clipping trough truck so Saber invented magnetic stones 🤣
It's always the pallets at the warehouses that mess me up 😅
well there are also no trees to winch on, so they invented some other shit too
The physics, "weight", tire pressure manipulation, suspension types, add-on freedom, etc. all seem better than in Snowrunner. Kind of sucks all of it is "wasted" on a side game like this. Hope that all these changes will make it to the next -Runner, if it ever gets made.
They look horrible. But then again I'm used to racing sims.
What’s wasted here? It’s a fully fledged game. Calling it sidegame is only ment to emphasis its different approach to the series, although it is of course a full fledged successor. Of course it made more sense to create something new as for snowrunner everything is basically already in the game with all its content and updates. A new version of the same thing wouldn’t have made sense.
@@Seitenwerk it's basically an arcade snowrunner without details or actual difficulty. Like they figured out that if stuff you haul is under a tarp, you don't have to model it. It's a low effort game that should've been a DLC or an update to snowrunner. 3 new vehicules (1 locked behind paywall), "experts" with perks to appeal the casual crowd, now spillage when hauling stuff, trucks are more planted. Half the fun of snowrunner is taking a risky path to save time, but flipping, because you made a mistake.
I agree, And is one of the reasons of why I'll never buy expeditions. We have been asking these changes for ages in SR and they put them in another game....
@@sampic_Maybe its not supposed to be like murunner or snowrunner? It has more focus on exploration and having other ways of fun.
1 part of me feel sad that dev just stick to old SR engine without a next-gen physic upgrad, but the other part of me feel happy because then I can port all thses new assets into Mudrunner to improve it even more
Noted😎
Mud and Snowrunner not have sticky stones. Decide it, its an upgrade or a bug. XD
You can. really?
@@vladvulcan its more a ripoff than a spinoff. of course you can. they dont add new things so everything is the same.
@@kennythemeat only those who haven't played say "they haven't added anything new". They most certainly did add new stuff, but it doesn't make the game any more interesting, alas.
You can’t please everyone except for me apparently. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. I love snow runner, but I find myself exploring and looking for modifications more than I am hauling the cargo. Satisfied so far.
SAME!!
I started out on spin tires on PC years ago. Never got snow or mud runner. I downloaded it on the fifth on Xbox. My son and I have thoroughly enjoyed it.
@@jbw5485 Wow! I cant believe you've never played Snowrunner, well if you enjoyed this newest game, expeditions, you and your son would love snowrunner. Which is a lot different from Spin tires and the original mudrunner, and really similar to the new mudrunner
@@raidermaxx2324 I’ll have to check it out. 👍🏼 I honestly wasn’t aware it was on Xbox because I always thought the mud runner and snow runners were just second and third iterations of spin tires which was only available on PC.
@@jbw5485 it might just be on PS4 then? but as someone who is a PC owner, i just assumed that since it is made on a PC for PC's, that it would naturally be on XBOX since XBOX is a windows based mini-computer. ah yes i just checked it is now available on all platforms . It has sooooo much content its crazy .. it will literally take you forever hahahaha. I'm still not done with it and play it all the time. but i dont have a kid to play it with, so you are lucky with that. It's my dream to one day play a video game with my kid.. Anyways. yea check it out!
Also now if you take a jack with you it can be used to upright any turned over truck. They definitely wanted to make this game easier and try to appeal to a new audience.
For me half the fun of Mudrunner and Snowrunner is knowing one mistake can mean having to start all the way over.
They watered it down for children to play.. because of greed.
yep, they make it easier for people new to offroading. a bit unrealstic but more fun for "normal gamers" instead of "offroading expert"
I think a jack for light, small scouts is alright, but big chonky boys should require more work
@@LeoMkIIbut big truck can't use winch when flipped.
this seems like more of a DLC. I will pass on this, excellent video as always
80 expeditions (main missions) and over 120 side activities are available. Its got alot for a dlc
@@Sean0kong Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle. just because theres a lot of things to do, doesnt mean there is actually a lot of involvement
I just had that magnetic stone glitch cripple me in snowrunner to lol, and idk about the shared tire dmg. I would love to see a system implemented where damaged tires would lose pressure over time based off of how damaged they are so if you aren't on top of things you could easily turn a lightly damaged low tire into a flat.
I don't see much future for it, they could have released it in phases in Years 4 and given SnowRunner a good change. I only see DLC, recycled and the same graphics engine.
its different from SR and cant be implemented as DLC.....that i can tell
@@SD1ONE Look, we get that it cant be implemented as DLC. What we are saying is that they should have added all of these features to SR from the start. Instead of making a new game out of SR's assets and charging full price for it. They are only doing this so that they can have two "vending machines" to sell extra DLC from.
@@CelticKnot463 Most of these features couldn't be added to SR without changing the engine in SR, which would make many features in sr stop working. This could not have been a dlc. simple as that. The engine in Exp is heavily modified from the SR engine
@@glowpipeWhy are you telling me this stuff? I'm well aware of what can, and cannot be done to the game. You are missing my point entirely.
@@CelticKnot463It's not full price. It's $40 instead of 60-70. And no one is forcing you to buy. Snowrunner is different and still getting dlc.
From someone that is now actively playing this game, I can say that it looks and feels better than SnowRunner. It's much more enjoyable and it's loads of fun. The cartoonish look is only in certain regions like Colorado. In the forest theme it looks pretty good!
Its cool for a dlc for snowrunner, but not as a separate game
it cant be implemented as DLC, significant differences are there
@@SD1ONE i maybe missed something, but judging by this and your previous video about this game:
There aren't really like game changing differences between this game and snowrunner, sure we now have drones, tires can be deflated and missions are a little different, but it's hardly a significant difference
I can be wrong thought since the game isn't finished yet, but I doubt they will implement something what will for sure make this game more different than snowrunner, therefore, this should've been a dlc, or at least a separate gamemode for snowrunner
Remind me of subnautica and subnautica below zero)
@@dedster3164 from my experince the vehicle physics feel like two different games
@@dedster3164tires could deflate in the original spintires 😂
They should go back to their roots and do either a direct sequel to Spintires or Mudrunner with a focus on larger map exploration instead of all these smaller maps.
I played It and It is very fun, rocks phisics are a thousand times better than Snowrunner, here you can do rock crawling. All the new things as anchors, drones are really cool and open a whole new world of possibilities.
Considering they've reused assets from SR into this game and slap a price tag of a new game, I reckon it's only fair that they also give SR some free updates of QoL changes, and maybe add some badlands into SR's 4th Season Pass.
All they had to do was make this a SR dlc and everyone would be happy with it.
I have a feeling this game will go on sale big time.
it's too much for DLC honestly...it has to different game
@@SD1ONEi agree but i would most definitely love to see half of the new features like split cargo bed and tire pressure.
Definently a spinoff some of these chanfes seem like they could easily been added to SR tho like the anchor or at least the autonomous winches
@@masterseeker360 the more of these types of games, the better tbh
@@raidermaxx2324well at least it doesnt seem like a lazy cashgrab like most other studios would throw out i feel like theres at least some passion going into this work
Great work man you put so much efforts in these comparison videos. I watched almost all.
If so much effort is waggling your mouse around instead of graphics and using the totally unrealistic setting then yeah…
It seems fun but I think the no trailers thing kinda kills it unfortunately. I’d like to see some sort of child between this and snowrunner eventually.
No trailers is such a fucking L they don''t get the fan base.
Honestly i wont buy this game in the next time, but i like that they want do some differents compared to the other games
The game looks a bit cartoonist compared to snowrunner
I kinda wish they stuck with snowrunner style stuff, the upgrades and paint feel so cluttered and hard to look at, after playing the game myself I can pretty comfortably say ill always be using thr solid tone paints
Ik feels like an arcade game im gonna pass
The color tone are more saturated than Snowrunner. That's why it looks more cartoonist.
The colors are much more vibrant making it look less realistic and more like a game
like i dont understend these devs isnt it obviouse what we want ? just give us snoow runner maps and vehicles , plus vechicle physics from mudrunner
I like the title. There are new impressions and challenges. I will only play it when Professional Expedition Vehicles appear. I'm waiting for the work of the Ambitious Modding Community. Current vehicles are ridiculous and caricatured. They do not reflect the immersion of a real Expedition. Professional gameplay recordings will definitely appear on my YT channel. Greetings to fans of this series!
I'm about 25 hours in and it's FUN, yet disappointing. I feel like the vast majority of features in SR are absent here and they were replaced with.. nothing. We got like 2 new gadgets and a drone, other than that.. nadda. You can't juggle fuel between trucks, there is NO quick-menu, NO top-down (side scroll) menu, NO juggling repair parts between trucks, NO real garage, NO switching trucks on the fly (now have to navigate multiple sub-menus JUST to switch trucks sitting right next to eachother which is unbearably unintuitive.) Also the day and night cycle is WEAK, the sunsets and sunrises barely happen, it's just kind of night/day all of a sudden which is pretty pathetic considering how gorgeous and well designed those features were in SR.. headlights are weaker (don't reflect off of objects nearly as much) and night time in general is so BRIGHT you don't even really need your headlights.) The UI is atrocious, utterly terrible, the main menu is like your garage now which is incredibly inconvenient and immersion breaking. The driving itself is great, physics are great, trucks drive well and feel more realistically weighted than in SR. I have over 2000 hrs in the SR universe and I'm still not sick of that game.. Expiditions however I could totally see me being mentally done with in a few months.. also the maps are WAY SMALLER and there are FAR FEWER than in Snowrunner.. idk. Not a 'bad' game but I would call it a major step down from it's predecessor. The environmental laziness really bothered me, obviously the day night cycle in SR was a MAJOR drawing point of the game as it added depth and realism and beauty into the games playability.. so they just REMOVE that entirely.. ugh. I can't say it's a bad game because I'm still playing it, but I CAN say WAIT for a SALE. I wouldn't have paid the $70 I did if I had known what this game really was beforehand. Saber got lazy, and greedy, and Expiditions kind of just screams "CHEAPER!!" to experienced players such as myself (when in comparison to SnowRunner.) Even the cargo was changed from varying different (sometimes very interesting) objects to a gold colored cloth that sways in the wind and this is REGARDLESS of what youre hauling, can you say LAZINESS? WAIT, Wait until it's $20, and then you'll have your money's worth. I need a new driving Sim. Sorry Saber, but after this I feel our 10 year relationship may be coming to an end.. stick with the new greed-model, and lose loyal fanbse. The choice is yours. This isn't a new game its a DLC and we ALL know it. 👎
If I had to give any advice of substance I'd say immediately fire whoever designed your UI for this game. They even put the GEARBOX shifter as R1 instead of L1, which means you have to use the same finger as the GAS PEDAL to shift.. HOW was that not realized before release?!? Unbelievable guys.
The only new thing in this game are the ugliest upgrades and color scheme in the series
It looks arcady forsure
and the game made 100x easier, no need to use your skills anymore just go straight!
Твой отец уродлив, а игра - топ
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@@MadisonReaves-b9m not only arcady, it looks very goofy. And the worst is that the color scheme make it looks like a hot wheels imaginary car
Game is coming in 5 days and some addons are still work in progress?! And this no water damage perk... that's ridiculous!
I won't pre order ANY games before the first day review
Agreed on the no water damage, that's insanely stupid. I love a lot about this game but there are a lot questionable choices too. Maybe someone will make a "Realism" mod for it...
He was on a early pre-release version. This is more or less all fixed in my game. The pre-order edition.
yup... the version I played isn't like fully ready for release but it's the version they gave to reviewers, youtubers... so I can only judge it through this version
it's the version that was compiled for reviewing, there's no daily update.
the game is interesting and different but the main problem i have with spillproof cargo and stuff it just takes away the aspect of snowrunner and mudrunner that makes it cool the fact that its hard and challenging being able to just use an achor and not need a rescue truck just isnt my style
Same.. too easy
As someone who has not even considered purchasing this game before, this video single handedly convinced me to buy it.
How has it gone so far??
With the DLC. I know when I bought SR and the first "pass" I had the Bandit and Marshall in my garage at the start. Though no extra unlocks (that really does feel like cheating)
I'm glad the tire pressures are back, good that the suspension seems to be overhauled too.
Im on the fence about the game, but theres no deniying the desert map is beautiful
I cant wait for the next Snowrunner like game. They really need to outdo themselves with the next one and stand tall and proud of what they create. Add in all the features and trucks fans have been asking about.
I love this game. I wanted a sucessor of Mudrunner and i become a sucessor of Mudrunner.
Some of the haters should learn, that Mudrunner isnt Snowrunner.
WHY ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH did they add a NO WATER DAMAGE PERK???? WHY EVEN HAVE SNORKELS IN THE GAME AT THIS POINT LMAO... THIS SERIES RUINED.
Also why echo sounder if there is no water damage perk?!
@@VCN01Part of me hopes that it is a bug, and either of these things will be done:
1. The water damage buff will be reduced to, say, -20% or something
2. Vehicle will still have no water damage, but upon submerging its engine will shut off until you get it out of water
flipping is basically meaningless now and i was really hoping for hard mode on launch this time such a shame my home state is part of this failure of a game im going to go play sailwind I was so hopeful for this
I hope they fix it when it comes out
your 2nd point is true...engine does get shut off in deep enough water but there's no damage to engine
As a Mudrunner fanboy, I have to say those trucks look like toys, wth. Plus the wip addons and bumpers having the wrong hitboxes is absolutely insane, the fact that a half assed mod from MR doesn't get that wrong but a car from this new game does is kinda crazy and doesn't speak great about the company behind it
I’ve been having a good time so far, I can’t wait for co-op and the modding community to start bringing us great content like they did in sr
Probably gonna stop and hold at SR. Heck, I still go back to MR just cause the griddy, muddy, mechanical feel that game has. There are things MR had that I wish SR had. Thankfully they finally fixed the trucks no smoking a lot in SR. Now they smoke like they are supposed to. 👍
I want to be excited for this game, because I loved how the trucks felt in Mudrunner. They just felt like they existed in that living space they were in.
I hope they don't loop the engine sounds like in SR.
As a major Snowrunner fan, i think i`m gonna get this game too despite few shortcomings. If mods are supported the same way as SR this is gonna be so fun.
Would be cool to be able to get out and put chains or a platform under tires when its stuck, or be able to dig it out with a shovel like the old dakar rally games, they could have done so much more but it just seems like an easier and more boring snowrunner, some additions seem neat and Ill probably grab it on a sale to play with friends but really was hoping for a bit more of a step up innovation wise
Great info. Thanks, Didn't knew about some of these details. Glad to see couple of modded vehicles are already available at early start. Just finished first mission, Thought will check for some tips 😉
Thanks for this video! I'll keep playing SnowRunner. This is not what I was expecting. No trailers or logs?! What is this world coming to?
Loving the videos!! You have to check out the door sticker called "I beat the game!" under customizations, make sure you scan it. It's an epic Easter egg!!!
I do not really see the point of this game, since it is very similar to SR. Of course there are some welcome additions, but in other places it is inferior to SR.
So what is it? I hope they will not pour all ressources into this game, but start developement on Snowrunners real successor.
It's for people like me who grew tired of SR quite quickly, blasting on roads in high range then down to low+diff lock when you hit mud got boring when you had to do the same delivery 3 times. Great fun with friends tho!
Good Video, thank you. Developpers give me feelings they are trying to sell me Snowrunner a second time ... This Expedition Game is just another DLC for Snowrunner ! And still don't understand what is the real purpose with this "Expedition". Ok, i will wait and see ...
Awesome video, thanks!
Looks very promising. I’ll start playing later tonight. The new AFIM (Italian truck) S1960 is probably my favourite from the looks alone. It’s so nice to have battery winch for small trucks like the Warthog (which it should have in SR as well) or the new Italian. I will certainly give the small ones a chance especially since their tire buff. Can’t wait until you’ll eventually do truck comparisons 👍
wait how can you play it when it aint been released yet?
@@raidermaxx2324if you bought the year 1 edition you got access to the game on the 29th I think but don’t quote me on
@@traceyrobinson7748 Yes it's true I bought the supreme edition with the pioneer pack
Does this one have gameplay that will satisfy the "rock-crawling" crowd? I'm not one of them, but it has always been a thread of interest in the spintires-and-beyond community and seems like an opportunity to take care of that.
with mods I think rock crawling would be better than SR because of improved rock grip
Rock crawling sucks i prefer thick mud and getting stuck
I love the video keep up the amazing work and not wait to play the game
Hits a rock gently .. Damged suspension & and tires, same old same old 🥱
I mean it's annoying yeah but really have you seen that happen in real life? Rocks like that can fuck you up if you aren't careful.
Can't wait to not buy this game! Good video though :)
9:00 Where's Bandit? It was shown in the trailers, but it's not in the game?
it is... did I forget to show it...I think i did
Let’s hope they fix all these things when the game fully releases
Yeah no thanks, I'll stick to SR, as imperfect as it is.
Thanks for the video!
they should implement all the vehicles and physics in SR
Looks like I'll be waiting for one of those heavy steam sales before I buy this.
Just wanted to point out it’s 19 vehicles you had 2 tuz 16 actaeons in the second row. Only 4 SE trucks. Great video though sd1one keep up the good work
Nope...tuz actaeon has 3 models...1 base and 2 special edition
@@SD1ONE what's the difference between 2 SE Actaeons?
Pioneer pack SE has a bigger fuel tank... other one i didn't bother to check...
Mine and probably 99 percent of others has 1 special edition tuz so you should show the difference in the 2 special editions cuz I only have 1. Maybe since you got a copy yours is different.
So? If you get enough damage to your tires, they all go flat…….. 🤔😮
If you drive in auto or higher speeds with the tires aired down to the lowest setting, they will get damaged. There doesn’t seem to be anything causing damage to a single tire. But when you repair, it repairs all tires together.
@@jbw5485 you don’t get it, you missed the point….
Why did I preordered this misunderstanding...
The best youtuber of snowrunner 😊
Mudrunner still on the top! #1
Even if it is a side project game I like to think the $50 helps them towards another runner game
Dude it's going to be the same thing. I lost faith after snowrunner
So, there are 14 cars in total. And not the most interesting ones. The game looks too childish compared to SR. I'll probably wait for dlc or mods.
Expeditions is a great add on, and i like that you can do something else then wood hauling. But its just that, an add on. For charging a full price, there must be more than this.
Very useful content, thanks
It looks to me like they choose to turn from amature off-road truck simulation to a childish off-road arcade experience...😢
This seems like one of those "We improved what lacked in our last game but forgot that it was meant to be a sequel" situations where the game could've very well been an update to snowrunner (kinda like what happened to FH4 > FH5) that also needs more time in the oven.
Its not a sequel. Its a spinoff.
@@MrChineseFood Thats kind-off what i meant. If they wanted to do a spin-off, considering the current state of snowrunner, they could've made it a big DLC and include the vehicles (since theyre so similar) and maps there. The only reason for them to release a new title would be a sequel, one that improves many lacking aspects of Snowrunner, but they focused on that to the point where it just feels like a spin-off that forgot to be different or unique from the past game.
Cars look floaty af
Glad they added the ANK MK38. Its the only truck i used it snow runner
Choosing where you want to winch with the mouse is a HUGE improvement.
*Edit*...nevermind, i just realized you could do that in the first game. Trying to find the right pinch point with a controller is a damn nightmare, but after watching this video i realized i could do it with my mouse....thank God lol
Yes but if there are trees and bushes it's sometimes trial end error to find out which of the points are the solid ones.
That fall was brutal
4:24 Even though the kits look identical, one is less rebounding. Real hydraulical dynamics differences.
But are we even sure that suspension in game works same as real life suspension...the only difference we can be sure of is how it looks
Can't imagine the new scout's being any better than my "YAR". Unless they've altered to the N-th degree, the way in which one can completely destroy their engine and or transmission, not to mention one or more tire's, when driving over even the smallest of rock's. Wanting to play as realistic as a game will allow is impossible in this game without the use of mod's that make playing the game more realistic.
In real life, one purchases the various thing's to install on their four wheeler's. Various thing's that allow them to drive over big rock's let alone small ones. With out the various mod's modder's provide. Playing mud runner or snow runner in any way short of the N-th degree. Is going to spend most of their effort making credit's in repairing cost. Which when one in real life will spend credit's to avoid such issue's. One must in this game mod it.
All this game does is make me want to play snowrunner
all it needs is crossover DLC with death stranding for that awful bridges truck that tips over as soon as you hit a pebble
They should add (to Snowrunner and Expedition) an option to replace the worst tire before it gets flat.
i wish they would make this game in year 2 and change it up were your scouting best routes+ places to build roads and bulidings / grages / gas stations then half way in year 2 or 3 u start buliding the infrastructure to do what mudrunner and snowrunner do best and they can leave all this exploring stuff as side quests
The next logical step was made Snow Runner a little bit more realistic... they made the oposite.... this game will be a total failure
They've been making the series more and more casual with every new entry, a bit naive to hope for them to go back to serious simulation.
Imagine combining the Snowrunner games with Fishing Planet
I just want a dedicated Gearbox system on Snowrunner to play using Keyboard😂.
If I was a beginner in Snowrunner, I would have loved the flatbed system for cargo in Expedition(I still like it), but, I kinda enjoy the long heavy trailer hauling through bumpy roads more 🤣
i dont get why they keep leaving those huge gaps between some cabins and the cargo
laziness
I'm gonna be honest this should be a dlc than a game
Get yourself a Lo4f, he's a god damn professional
horse of a vehicle. the first one i bought as soon as i did the mission to unlock it
so basically modded snowrunner with cheats
bruuuuh
Yeah...basically 🤦♂️
So in general: USA/Europe + old af russian vehicles + futuristic tech and addons + ugly repaints. Makes zero sense to me. I'll stick to SnowRunner for now.
Considering it's only 40 and comes with the same amount of map content as two seasons of SR in addition to the new changes, it's not as bad as people are making it out to be. It may not "look" as good as SR but it feels better. Actually feel like I'm off-roading now. I'd rate it a solid 7/10. Now let's hope they stick true to their word and add some these changes to SR at some point.
Scouting is my fav part from both mudrunner and snowrunner as delivering cargo from A to B eventually gets boring
This entire game is only driving from point A to B lmao.
Looking forward to it. Less than a week to go!
man, expeditions seems like a huge disappointment... all the ressources it ate up should've been put into Snowrunner. Snowrunner deserves all these new features and engine improvements... most of us have spent so much money on the DLCs for snowrunner it feels like a scam not getting any new features like expeditions has.
I won't be buying the year 4 pass for snowrunner unless they actually give us some good quality of life updates and features.
Devs vision is different now...At time of MR, the game was a biche and the focus was not to cater the crowd but the corr fans but now the game is popular thus the focus is making more money by catering the crowd at expense of core fan base...I hope the next main runner entry balance out the crowd and core fans equally.
Idiot. How is it scam if future sequel has more feature than previous games.
wait so the larger trucks are a bit closer to feeling like mudrunner again?
Not like MR but definitely feel better than SR
am i allowed to complain yet about many of these features not being added to snowrunner
These require changes in core functionality so maybe in next main entry... until then They should do experiments in this game to see what works and what not
Theres something off with the grip of tires. For example in the starting area theres car ramps for a service platform you need 4wd to even climb it, my small car irl can climb those and i seen real 4x4 "climb" a 90
The big question is, if it's worth to buy the game ?
Coming here some months after release, I'll be honest, this game is basically just an SR year pass with some QOL changes and a different UI font, built-in cheat devices, more scout focus and it's sold/marketed as a different game. That's it.
Edit: Just after writing this I thought they could just add the customizable roof racks, better addon combos and better upgrades to SR and make more profit from it than Expeditions.
Like Farming Sim and snow runner, mods make this game worth it.
On snow runner I at least completed 3 maps before mods were even announced, on expeditions I started with mods installed 😂
I ant be the only one really disappointed that there is no proper manual gearbox
I’ve literally been waiting since the release of mudrunner in 2017
As long as the base game vehicles are not 'nerfed' in a way to make completing tasks unnecessarily difficult while DLC vehicles make it sightly easier I'm ok with that. Some can spend money on easy mode as long as they didn't intentionally cripple the base vehicles to force DLC purchasing.
As for the bugs... let's hope less than SR on release both gameplay, UI and achievements.
I hoped to see Paystar 5070 again, that truck carried me through most of SR and I preferred it over Voron or Tayga.
I think trucks like Paystar don't belong in this game...they added step, loadstar but IMO they're also not suitable choice...trucks like tatra which are actually used for such extreme offroading would look better in this game but that's just my opinion.
Yeah I don’t know I just see this as a case where the studio had better then expected success on snowrunner so they thought let’s capitalize on it, I feel like this is a nickel and dime your original lovers of the franchise thing. Just my opinion though, look at all the paid dlc trucks that honestly should have free in the seasons, now look they can make even more paid dlc vehicles.
I've already paid for about 95% of SnowRunners DLC. Im not about to do it again on another game. They are turning them both into vending machines and its annoying.
@@CelticKnot463 Well, what can we do, we are walking wallets for them
@@bask6753 Close your wallet.
@CelticKnot463 Idiot. No one is forcing you to buy it, just like no one is forcing you to buy everything at shop. Do you instead want developers to abandon the game?
So how is it that in a game with more open areas, slower trucks are better than in SnowRunner?
To me, it's the complete opposite.
Aside from that difference in opinions, great video. Thank you.
I have been playing it since yesterday on the PS5, and it is unfortunate that it does not use haptic feedback on the controller. I am enjoying the game though.