It's so noisy of a shifter that every shift I make I feel bad for anyone in my apartment building trying to sleep, but it beats everything else by miles. Also, I never knew anyone had any actual issues with the shifter. Mine worked perfectly with no issues out the box and always has, but I'm sure it's the same case for most people.
Yeah it’s noisy but I guess a real shifter is even noisier :) thanks for the comment :) if you want a quiet shifter, maybe get a TH8a. Although that’s a terrible shifter by comparison.
@@Simlife101 Depends on your definition of loud, but a real dog box is loud enough to wake people in your house if they're trying to sleep. It's a really clunky sound.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Yep, and even garden variety synchromesh boxes are actually quite loud. Just that not many people hear someone going through the gears of a switched-off car in an enclosed space.
I put my "mid-tier" Fanatec gear in my shopping cart last night, just over $1,800... Now I just have to convince my wife to let me spend that kind of money to upgrade my G27. Good luck to me!!
Good thing i'm single :P Worked my ass off all summer with night shifts 7 days a week abroad... Finally pulled the trigger and spent about 2400€ on fanatec and 200€ on a used gamepod GT2 EVO rig from 2010... Waiting for UPS to deliver my order xD
When I got into sim racing a few years ago I couldn't wait to learn to heel-toe and jam that shifter... problem is that when you race any cars that are manuals, 99% of the guys are using paddle shifters. I know not everyone can afford a nice shifter ect.. but I think it's cheating to drive a manual with paddles. Such a bummer and just ruins the experience.
People with better hardware also have an advantage.. to have completely fair racing everybody would have to you exactly the same hardware. And I rather lose while using heel/toe than win with using shifters/autoclutch and whatever easy-modes :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa Not directly, but when I changed my G29 pedals for Fanatec Load-cell pedals my braking and trailbraking became so much more consistent and precise that I managed to easily break my own pb's. I do think that a better wheel or shifter don't influence your laptimes. But those loadcell pedals where my best upgrade ever :)
The extra immersion and experience you get with the shifter is totally worth it. I'll take a loss due to that any day. It's probably the most immersive piece of gear I've bought after VR.
Replaced my Fanatec CS 1.5 shift with a much more expensive ProSim H pattern shifter. The key feature the ProSim has that mattered to me was centering spring tension adjustment. Both shifters have an adjustment for how hard it is to push the stick into gear, but the CS 1.5 centering tension has always felt to soft to me which makes it easier to miss a shift. For me that was usually a 2-5 vs 2-3 that I wanted. The price on the ProSim will be a deal breaker for most people, but it does feel better and opens up the opportunity to buy the upcoming hydraulic lockout which will be mapped to the clutch pedal in software. Obviously this is decidedly upscale from the CS 1.5 at about 6X the price. A big complaint many have had is that there is little between the Fanatec CS 1.5 and the ProSim. However I'm hearing some good things about the FREX shifter which is more reasonable in price.
great comment! Yeah there are other offerings coming to market. I will have a pro-sim shifter on my new rig when that gets built. Can't wait to put it through its paces!
Anyone buying this get the shorter shifter rod mod. it adds a shorter rod so needs more pressure to put into gear and feels so much nicer. also do not void warranty
@@LaurenceDusoswa Can i ask for the link for your formula gt style wheel and the button plate for your round wheel please. sub well earned and great review. cheers
Hey Laurence, I picked this up for my rig as well, but I find I mis-shift all the time in rally with this thing. For very fast shifts, the 2nd to 3rd throw is too narrow and always goes to 5th. Happens in the high gear downshifts as well. It's actually quite frustrating for an expensive (very) piece of gear. Is it solid, for sure and it's the only half decent shifter out there, so like you said, you have to live with its limitations. I grew up on stick, so H-pattern is very important to me, massive part of the immersion. Also, I had no idea how to mount the handbrake, so a big thanks for that!! Cheers!
Hmm I don’t have those mis-shifts. I quite like the distance and throw. Glad you got the benefit out of the handbrake mounting though :) I might do a dedicated video on that at some stage as people seem to be interested
@@LaurenceDusoswa I'll work on my adapting my shifting to the device though, there's only one common denominator, and that's me. My rig's almost complete ( ya right), the wind sim came in, so I'll hook up that next. Pls try WRC8 Laurence, pls!! Do a stream, I'll buy a cat t-shirt or two, I promise! Ffb worked for a day and a half in dirt last week, hasn't worked since. I'll check some forums. Take care and thanks.
I too am getting mis-shifts usually from third to fourth and the shifter pics it up as 2nd or reverse. Happens once every 100shifts or so but ruins a race. Seems to be quite common in the forums
Ive seen em on sell used on ebay for more than NEW! that says a lot about them I got mine new a few years back and still use it on iRacing in various oval track series i like the fact that they can be sequential for 2021 when the next gen car comes out! good strong unit! I will admit one thing, on my rig I took a Hurst t-handle and on the end drilled and tapped it, and put it on there with a jam nut....sorta a slapstick style!
Hahaha Nice 😂😂😂 yeah they hold their value fairly well. The sequential is good too yeah. I do find that in sims people will usually use flappy paddles and be quicker than people with a sequential.
Hello Laurence ! Great new review 2020!! ;) Currently I have a cheap and versatile SHH shifter, but I want to improve the sequential touch above all. Do you think it's worth selling my SHH and buying v.1.5? My second option is to buy the HE and keep the SHH. I would appreciate your honest opinion (Q1 is out of budget). Thanks a lot.
yep, it's totally worth upgrading to the fanatec. Do check out the VNM shifter also. I did a review on that too: ruclips.net/video/x49qv_vaaIY/видео.html
@@LaurenceDusoswa In your opinion, do you prefer Fanatec v.1.5 vs SHH + HE? And finally, is the VNM Shifter feel better than HE? By price for EU there is no difference, even more expensive VNM (Great review by the way) My main use would be sequential. Thanks again.
Have had this shifter for around 2 years now. Had the common miss-shifting issue occur after about 150ish hours of non-aggressive driving. Had to send to fanatec to fix out of warranty. Cost a lot in shipping and $35 in labor from them to fix and the issue came back about a month later. Ive had issues with every single piece of fanatec gear I have bought from them too. It sucks that theyre the only company at this particular price range
@@LaurenceDusoswa thank you for your suggestion. I had seen this before on other rigs but never knew what it was or the price. Will definitely consider this
People do not class this as the best shifter on the market that goes to Quaife H pattern but that is £1600 so the Fanatec is seen as the best for the price
Realistically, it's the best most can dream of affording, yes. there are better shifters than the quaife/pro-sim out there, i'm sure, but not available to consumers like us
When I get this shifter I am going to go extend the shifter post so it’s up high like Supercars here in oz. also going to try n go get custom made up with thread so I can change it when I like back to stock.
Just be warned of the law of the lever.... if you extend it up for a sequential throw you then add length to the throw forward and back...... what could have been the top of the gearknob moving an inch forward and an inch back will also grow in both forward and back direction for every inch you extend it up....... extend it too high and you'll end up with it at your chin before it registers a shift!
Just purchased the VNM Shifter for my PS5 using a drivehub instead of this. Purely down to the horror story's of mis-shift issues with the Fanatec. It's about time they made a Mk2 version of this shifter. It's not a case of "What's not broke doesn't need fixing" because these always seem to break! lol.
Pretty good review, this shifter have been on my wishlist for a while, but I can't try it IRL anywhere, so I'm still not sure whether it's worth it or not because it's so expensive for a shifter, also the fact that I don't think it will improve my laptime but only for the immersion.
Yep that's a tricky dilemma. It's a shame you can't try it somewhere. It's really good, but if you drive a manual h-pattern in real life, you cannot expect a piece of sim hardware currently to give you the same feedback as a real gearbox does. It's a lot of money, but i suggest looking at the price of them second hand. If they're selling for a similar price to new, then it's worth the risk. You wont be disappointed as long as you are expecting a good piece of sim hardware, and not a like for like experience compared to real life.
Also, anyone willing to slap down that much money on a sim racing piece of equipment usually will have taken very good care of it. Unlike a piece of equipment that is cheap where people are more likely to not be so careful. Unless the owner is some rich asshole who just doesn't care because they can buy 5 more without even hesitating. But in my experience, the really serious sim racers who spend a ton on their equipment will take care of it. So buying Fanatec equipment used isn't as risky as, say, buying like a Logitech G29, which is cheap and less likely to have been carefully used and maintained.
Pretty solid video. You talked about how wheel bases and pedals evolve and shifters don't, and there's a simple explanation I can think of - a shifter gives you absolutely no advantage in racing, you can do the very same job using paddle shifters that came with wheel and be just as fast. High end pedals allow for more precision and consistency by having loadcells or higher resolution, DD wheel bases offer more detailed and faster FFB, meanwhile high end shifter will work the same as logitech ones, just offering more rewarding experience.
Yep I did mention that too that you can live without them. It’s an immersion tool more so than something to make you quicker. You’re right in everything you just said I think...
Hmm. being able to rev match and slip the clutch in a corner is sometimes nice, especially a tight 2nd gear corner with a car that has a touchy throttle
Laurence Dusoswa I would but I live in oz and there is a distributor here so shipping wouldn’t be as high for me. Also I am looking at the peddles but might be going with the HE sprints. But I noticed in the vid I mention cable length and now looking at USB extension that is of high quality and a USB hub as I will need that regardless.
For people with unintentional misshifts with the fanatec: I had frequent misshifts with this (otherwise fantastic ) (newly bought) shifter. I fixed it by adding a piece of insulating tape on one of the connecting boards. Apparently something made contact sometimes, what caused a shift in 3rd or 1st or reverse unintentionally. It was an easy fix, no risk doing it myself. After that, problem solved. ruclips.net/video/16SoByd8ycg/видео.html
The tape is apparently a placebo for just taking off the top, playing with the connectors and putting it back. Nothing in there is moving that would cause the contacts to touch, but since the device is using hall sensors to detect shifts, any electromagnetic interference or grounding issues can cause the values to jump around. Some people have talked about ensuring proper ground, but I've found just taking the top off and rechecking the connections does the trick (note: I did the tape thing as well).
@@ModMINI Correct about the tape, I've come to the conclusion it wasnt' the tape, but build up of static electricity (which points to a grounding issue. Removing the top, fiddling around, probably discharges and the cycle begins again. Rinse and repeat every so often.
Hi, i really love h shifter but sad to see that we havent many product to simulate h race shifter for old f1 car or groupe c. Imo fanatec is good for some car class. frex is perhaps the way for other class. Good video
I really like my SQ 1.5 shifter but I am struggling to get rid of the common mid shift issues. Unfortunately there isn’t really an alternative unit. I would love heusinkveld to release their prototype h-pattern but it seems they have decided to not concentrate on it for now.
Laurence Dusoswa I’m working my way through a few forum fixes to see if I can get it back working. But for now I can’t trust it. Hopefully I can get it back to working order.
I had the same problem. It was caused by a small pcb not being properly insulated which was fixed with a piece of insulating tape on the back. see ruclips.net/video/16SoByd8ycg/видео.html
@@deegeeooh yeah tried that, insulating tape all over it but still Mia shifts. Usually when going from 3rd to 4th it will select 2nd or reverse. Happens every 50 gearshifts or so
More exotic brands than fanatec? I'm new to sim racing and I just got a g920 because it was perfect for the budget and I looked at what I would want from fanatec. It cost $2,000+ for wheelbase, steering wheel, shifter, handbrake, and pedals. How much more exotic can you get? I know there was some direct drive wheel base for $2600 or something but that's literally insane 🤷♂️
Yep it tells a story... but which one? Are people lazy because you can just use paddle shifters? Or is it not worth the effort to put more research and development into the products? Or both?
@@LaurenceDusoswa imho it isn't an easy product to develop and build, look at Heusinkveld and their attempt at making one, which failed in the end after just one prototype. also, there aren't much people who are willing to drive historic cars with the rise of GT3 and similar categories all over the sims.
On pc this shifter should work with any title as long as you can map controls. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work with either of those but have a quick google to make 100% sure
Long time no see its a nice shifter. But I perfer th8a from. Thrustmaster to me it feels more stable..i tried fanatec its good but gears are too close..sometimes I mess gears
The USB adapter is only for PC unfortunately. If you're on playstation, you can only use this with a fanatec wheelbase and do not need a usb adapter at all
Not sure which part you’re referring to but yeah, there’s no way to adjust the throw other that using a longer gear knob or replacing the shaft. You can only adjust the resistance with the hex at the side.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you!, planning to start sim racing and want the thrustmaster t300rs as my first wheel, and upgrade to fanatec in the future after having some experience and learn tweaking
Yes you certainly can! They sell an adapter on their site. It does need to be hooked up to your pc via USB though as it won’t connect the buttons to your pc without a dedicated cable.
Yes! If you’re on console or PC it will work with all the modern wheels and if you want to run it on pc with another non fanatec wheelbase you can buy a USB adapter. I have links in the description ;)
@@LaurenceDusoswa nice, I just ordered this kit. One more question. If I buy the load cell pedal kit... that is just the one pedal to add to the base that comes with this kit correct? Its 139 dollars.
hey mate i am about to pull the trigger on this can u please measure the bottom from side to side and front to rear the base area and how high it is. my custom rig i am making i am doing it 3d program and cant find the measurements for it. if you can that will be awesome of you also if you do it in mm let me no plz.
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Laurence Dusoswa legend cheers I would use the link but living in oz we have a seller here and shipping is way cheaper over all hope you are not offended. Again thank you mate love your work.
@@MrFrosty888 I know you wrote your comment about 6 months ago but I bought some Clubsport v3 pedals, a universal steering wheel hub and this shifter and the postage was very reasonable. Also I’m just curious as to who is the seller you keep mentioning? Fanatec has their own Aus specific section of their site and a warehouse in Australia and don’t have any resellers or similar. For example, on Pagnian’s site they even say that they cannot match the prices Fanatec sells their products for and since they already have an Australian warehouse and very reasonable postage, why would you buy from anyone else, especially given that it’ll definitely be more expensive than purchasing directly from Fanatec?
I'm lucky enough to own fanatec DD one direct drive wheel also I have the formula wheel and a Porsche wheel set up all this is very expensive and not very enjoyable watching that money disappear but I'm looking at this Gear thinking maybe I've never ad Miss shift on my wheels but I still like idea using manual shift
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At price point, yes. But those shifters are way better, they also way more expensive yea.. - www.pro-sim.co.uk/shop/h-pattern-shifter/#tab-description - frex.com/store/product/hshift/
This is so true 👍. Well at least it's not as worst as thrustmaster Pedals, thrustmaster released so many great sim hub and they all have the same cheap plastic toy 🙄 pedals as thrustmaster think that the pedals are being used by little kids🤦🤣.
Apparently you're lucky with Fanatec products. Unfortunately, I would not recommend Fanatec even to my greatest enemy. After 2 weeks of use, Shifter began to make strange sounds and squeak as if it wasn't well lubricated. After less than two months, he stopped choosing the right gears. Currently, unfortunately, I am servicing it 3 times on my own, because I would sooner die than it would be properly serviced by Fanatec. Continuous blame on the user by this company and forcing to send dozens of videos showing the defect can upset even the most calm person. The Thrustmaster TH8A I had before was practically indestructible and reliable.
Violin construction was perfected in the 17th century and hasn't changed in design since the 18th century. So 7 years of being unable to improve on a really good shifter shouldn't be that big of a deal. ;)
Hahaha that’s true. But the violin is the real thing. The h shifter on a sim rig is for simulation. I think it needs to be closer to the real thing. Don’t ask me how to do that, but right now if you had a sim shifter in your real car you would not enjoy driving it as much.
@@LaurenceDusoswa That’s just ridiculous, to the point of being stupid; tell me, would you want to use ANY piece of sim racing hardware in a real car? How would you go using some Clubsport v3 pedals in a real car, having zero feedback for the clutch and brake pedals? In a real car one can actually feel when the brakes lock and with practice one can feel when they’re just about to lock, and stay on the threshold of locking to achieve the maximum possible braking performance. And with a clutch pedal one can feel the rpm drop and the engine starting to bog down if either not enough rpm or letting the clutch pedal out too quickly. Obviously since nothing like that is even remotely possible on a sim racing setup, your remark seems completely asinine.
A real problem with Fanatec handbrake 1.5 Supposedly quality gear but cheap crap. My cord broke three days after I hooked it up. Cheap plastic 8th inch jack to a cheap RJ-45 that’s German quality for you! = made in china
@@LaurenceDusoswa I've done it a few times, dont get me wrong its one of the best out there and i prefer it, but its not as reliable as some of the others. Ive had to fix mine several times. One recommendation is not to switch back and forth from sequential to h-pattern. Best to use paddles for for it
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It's so noisy of a shifter that every shift I make I feel bad for anyone in my apartment building trying to sleep, but it beats everything else by miles. Also, I never knew anyone had any actual issues with the shifter. Mine worked perfectly with no issues out the box and always has, but I'm sure it's the same case for most people.
Yeah it’s noisy but I guess a real shifter is even noisier :) thanks for the comment :) if you want a quiet shifter, maybe get a TH8a. Although that’s a terrible shifter by comparison.
@@LaurenceDusoswa no a real shifter isnt loud even in a race car.
@@Simlife101 Depends on your definition of loud, but a real dog box is loud enough to wake people in your house if they're trying to sleep. It's a really clunky sound.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Yep, and even garden variety synchromesh boxes are actually quite loud. Just that not many people hear someone going through the gears of a switched-off car in an enclosed space.
I put my "mid-tier" Fanatec gear in my shopping cart last night, just over $1,800... Now I just have to convince my wife to let me spend that kind of money to upgrade my G27. Good luck to me!!
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Good thing i'm single :P Worked my ass off all summer with night shifts 7 days a week abroad... Finally pulled the trigger and spent about 2400€ on fanatec and 200€ on a used gamepod GT2 EVO rig from 2010... Waiting for UPS to deliver my order xD
@@dukeofdream did the same lol good luck, hope it's a long term investment in a great time!
@@jericosha2842 Having a blast so far 😇😇
When I got into sim racing a few years ago I couldn't wait to learn to heel-toe and jam that shifter... problem is that when you race any cars that are manuals, 99% of the guys are using paddle shifters. I know not everyone can afford a nice shifter ect.. but I think it's cheating to drive a manual with paddles. Such a bummer and just ruins the experience.
Agreed. But I’d rather lose with a smile on my face than win with flappy paddles :)
People with better hardware also have an advantage.. to have completely fair racing everybody would have to you exactly the same hardware. And I rather lose while using heel/toe than win with using shifters/autoclutch and whatever easy-modes :)
Hardware doesn’t make anyone faster. It’s not a valid excuse at all.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Not directly, but when I changed my G29 pedals for Fanatec Load-cell pedals my braking and trailbraking became so much more consistent and precise that I managed to easily break my own pb's. I do think that a better wheel or shifter don't influence your laptimes. But those loadcell pedals where my best upgrade ever :)
The extra immersion and experience you get with the shifter is totally worth it. I'll take a loss due to that any day. It's probably the most immersive piece of gear I've bought after VR.
Replaced my Fanatec CS 1.5 shift with a much more expensive ProSim H pattern shifter. The key feature the ProSim has that mattered to me was centering spring tension adjustment. Both shifters have an adjustment for how hard it is to push the stick into gear, but the CS 1.5 centering tension has always felt to soft to me which makes it easier to miss a shift. For me that was usually a 2-5 vs 2-3 that I wanted. The price on the ProSim will be a deal breaker for most people, but it does feel better and opens up the opportunity to buy the upcoming hydraulic lockout which will be mapped to the clutch pedal in software. Obviously this is decidedly upscale from the CS 1.5 at about 6X the price. A big complaint many have had is that there is little between the Fanatec CS 1.5 and the ProSim. However I'm hearing some good things about the FREX shifter which is more reasonable in price.
great comment! Yeah there are other offerings coming to market. I will have a pro-sim shifter on my new rig when that gets built. Can't wait to put it through its paces!
The beauty of the sim world is that you can drive any car with an h pattern. Props to Fanatec for birthing this bad boy.
It's a great product!
6:08 song is perfectly on time lol
Hahaha I try to make the visuals suit the music where possible :p
Was waitin for this 👍
Hope it was useful for you :)
Anyone buying this get the shorter shifter rod mod. it adds a shorter rod so needs more pressure to put into gear and feels so much nicer. also do not void warranty
nice!
This is gonna be on my rig, for sure!
Enjoy :)
@@LaurenceDusoswa Can i ask for the link for your formula gt style wheel and the button plate for your round wheel please.
sub well earned and great review. cheers
Cheers for the review. Will be getting it for sure
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Hey Laurence, I picked this up for my rig as well, but I find I mis-shift all the time in rally with this thing. For very fast shifts, the 2nd to 3rd throw is too narrow and always goes to 5th. Happens in the high gear downshifts as well. It's actually quite frustrating for an expensive (very) piece of gear. Is it solid, for sure and it's the only half decent shifter out there, so like you said, you have to live with its limitations. I grew up on stick, so H-pattern is very important to me, massive part of the immersion. Also, I had no idea how to mount the handbrake, so a big thanks for that!! Cheers!
Hmm I don’t have those mis-shifts. I quite like the distance and throw. Glad you got the benefit out of the handbrake mounting though :) I might do a dedicated video on that at some stage as people seem to be interested
@@LaurenceDusoswa I'll work on my adapting my shifting to the device though, there's only one common denominator, and that's me. My rig's almost complete ( ya right), the wind sim came in, so I'll hook up that next. Pls try WRC8 Laurence, pls!! Do a stream, I'll buy a cat t-shirt or two, I promise! Ffb worked for a day and a half in dirt last week, hasn't worked since. I'll check some forums. Take care and thanks.
I too am getting mis-shifts usually from third to fourth and the shifter pics it up as 2nd or reverse. Happens once every 100shifts or so but ruins a race. Seems to be quite common in the forums
Ive seen em on sell used on ebay for more than NEW! that says a lot about them I got mine new a few years back and still use it on iRacing in various oval track series i like the fact that they can be sequential for 2021 when the next gen car comes out! good strong unit!
I will admit one thing, on my rig I took a Hurst t-handle and on the end drilled and tapped it, and put it on there with a jam nut....sorta a slapstick style!
Hahaha Nice 😂😂😂 yeah they hold their value fairly well. The sequential is good too yeah. I do find that in sims people will usually use flappy paddles and be quicker than people with a sequential.
Hello Laurence ! Great new review 2020!! ;)
Currently I have a cheap and versatile SHH shifter, but I want to improve the sequential touch above all. Do you think it's worth selling my SHH and buying v.1.5? My second option is to buy the HE and keep the SHH. I would appreciate your honest opinion (Q1 is out of budget).
Thanks a lot.
yep, it's totally worth upgrading to the fanatec. Do check out the VNM shifter also. I did a review on that too: ruclips.net/video/x49qv_vaaIY/видео.html
@@LaurenceDusoswa In your opinion, do you prefer Fanatec v.1.5 vs SHH + HE?
And finally, is the VNM Shifter feel better than HE? By price for EU there is no difference, even more expensive VNM (Great review by the way)
My main use would be sequential.
Thanks again.
Have had this shifter for around 2 years now. Had the common miss-shifting issue occur after about 150ish hours of non-aggressive driving. Had to send to fanatec to fix out of warranty. Cost a lot in shipping and $35 in labor from them to fix and the issue came back about a month later. Ive had issues with every single piece of fanatec gear I have bought from them too. It sucks that theyre the only company at this particular price range
Yeah it really does. Check out the VNM shifter
@@LaurenceDusoswa thank you for your suggestion. I had seen this before on other rigs but never knew what it was or the price. Will definitely consider this
After watching ur video I’m gonna add it to my order as I’m upgrading from a thrustmaster tx
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My friend has a formula v2 wheel and uses this shifter along side it what do u think about that
People do not class this as the best shifter on the market that goes to Quaife H pattern but that is £1600 so the Fanatec is seen as the best for the price
Realistically, it's the best most can dream of affording, yes. there are better shifters than the quaife/pro-sim out there, i'm sure, but not available to consumers like us
When I get this shifter I am going to go extend the shifter post so it’s up high like Supercars here in oz. also going to try n go get custom made up with thread so I can change it when I like back to stock.
Very cool :) I’d love to see pics when you have that done
Just be warned of the law of the lever.... if you extend it up for a sequential throw you then add length to the throw forward and back...... what could have been the top of the gearknob moving an inch forward and an inch back will also grow in both forward and back direction for every inch you extend it up....... extend it too high and you'll end up with it at your chin before it registers a shift!
Declan Grant also it be made from aluminium so throw shouldn’t be that bad if not I will just raise the unit up high
@@MrFrosty888 Unless you also extend the length below the pivot point, the material you use makes no difference to throw length.
Just purchased the VNM Shifter for my PS5 using a drivehub instead of this. Purely down to the horror story's of mis-shift issues with the Fanatec. It's about time they made a Mk2 version of this shifter. It's not a case of "What's not broke doesn't need fixing" because these always seem to break! lol.
Hahahaha
What is your set up and how does drivehub suit everything?
I really.like it for the quick change between h pattern and sq
Yeah it’s the best consumer grade shifter out there
Pretty good review, this shifter have been on my wishlist for a while, but I can't try it IRL anywhere, so I'm still not sure whether it's worth it or not because it's so expensive for a shifter, also the fact that I don't think it will improve my laptime but only for the immersion.
Yep that's a tricky dilemma. It's a shame you can't try it somewhere. It's really good, but if you drive a manual h-pattern in real life, you cannot expect a piece of sim hardware currently to give you the same feedback as a real gearbox does.
It's a lot of money, but i suggest looking at the price of them second hand. If they're selling for a similar price to new, then it's worth the risk. You wont be disappointed as long as you are expecting a good piece of sim hardware, and not a like for like experience compared to real life.
Also, anyone willing to slap down that much money on a sim racing piece of equipment usually will have taken very good care of it. Unlike a piece of equipment that is cheap where people are more likely to not be so careful.
Unless the owner is some rich asshole who just doesn't care because they can buy 5 more without even hesitating. But in my experience, the really serious sim racers who spend a ton on their equipment will take care of it. So buying Fanatec equipment used isn't as risky as, say, buying like a Logitech G29, which is cheap and less likely to have been carefully used and maintained.
Pretty solid video. You talked about how wheel bases and pedals evolve and shifters don't, and there's a simple explanation I can think of - a shifter gives you absolutely no advantage in racing, you can do the very same job using paddle shifters that came with wheel and be just as fast.
High end pedals allow for more precision and consistency by having loadcells or higher resolution, DD wheel bases offer more detailed and faster FFB, meanwhile high end shifter will work the same as logitech ones, just offering more rewarding experience.
Yep I did mention that too that you can live without them. It’s an immersion tool more so than something to make you quicker. You’re right in everything you just said I think...
I don't know anything about drifting, but isn't the feel better with an actual shifter compared to paddle shifters?
I miss speeds all the time with the g29 shifter. It feels like a toy and don't compare at all to a real car.
Hmm. being able to rev match and slip the clutch in a corner is sometimes nice, especially a tight 2nd gear corner with a car that has a touchy throttle
Great review I am about to drop some cash on dd and looking at this shifter and handbrake. Can’t wait.
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Laurence Dusoswa I would but I live in oz and there is a distributor here so shipping wouldn’t be as high for me. Also I am looking at the peddles but might be going with the HE sprints. But I noticed in the vid I mention cable length and now looking at USB extension that is of high quality and a USB hub as I will need that regardless.
For people with unintentional misshifts with the fanatec: I had frequent misshifts with this (otherwise fantastic ) (newly bought) shifter. I fixed it by adding a piece of insulating tape on one of the connecting boards. Apparently something made contact sometimes, what caused a shift in 3rd or 1st or reverse unintentionally. It was an easy fix, no risk doing it myself. After that, problem solved. ruclips.net/video/16SoByd8ycg/видео.html
Nice! Thanks for sharing
I fixed it two times that way and it worked for a while and went back to misshifting. Worsed fanatec builds
The tape is apparently a placebo for just taking off the top, playing with the connectors and putting it back. Nothing in there is moving that would cause the contacts to touch, but since the device is using hall sensors to detect shifts, any electromagnetic interference or grounding issues can cause the values to jump around. Some people have talked about ensuring proper ground, but I've found just taking the top off and rechecking the connections does the trick (note: I did the tape thing as well).
@@ModMINI Correct about the tape, I've come to the conclusion it wasnt' the tape, but build up of static electricity (which points to a grounding issue. Removing the top, fiddling around, probably discharges and the cycle begins again. Rinse and repeat every so often.
Hi, i really love h shifter but sad to see that we havent many product to simulate h race shifter for old f1 car or groupe c.
Imo fanatec is good for some car class.
frex is perhaps the way for other class.
Good video
Thanks for the kind words! Frex looks good but I don’t have experience with them and don’t even know anyone who has one.
I really like my SQ 1.5 shifter but I am struggling to get rid of the common mid shift issues. Unfortunately there isn’t really an alternative unit. I would love heusinkveld to release their prototype h-pattern but it seems they have decided to not concentrate on it for now.
Yeah that has been parked. It’s a real pity you’re getting the issue. I haven’t experienced it. It would be amazing to have an alternative
Laurence Dusoswa I’m working my way through a few forum fixes to see if I can get it back working. But for now I can’t trust it. Hopefully I can get it back to working order.
I had the same problem. It was caused by a small pcb not being properly insulated which was fixed with a piece of insulating tape on the back. see ruclips.net/video/16SoByd8ycg/видео.html
@@deegeeooh yeah tried that, insulating tape all over it but still Mia shifts. Usually when going from 3rd to 4th it will select 2nd or reverse. Happens every 50 gearshifts or so
Bonsoir, shifter très bien construit, fait son poids,ai acheté Black Friday a l'air très solide.😻
Nice! The Black Friday sale was GREAT!
Great videography! Thank you for including console details 😉
Thanks Flea! Console gamers are people too! Apparently... 😂😂😂
For those who don't have a fanatec wheel base, buying the fanatec shifter and the Handbrake means they have also to buy 2 usb adapters ??
Yep that’s what I had to do :(
if im bying shifter and handbrake and dont have the wheelbase,do i need 2 usb adapters(one for each part)? Great review also :)
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@@LaurenceDusoswa ok,thanks! sure,ill try to remember that when im buying.
What track is that you're using? Thanks !
A lovely little technical track with only 3 real corners :) it’s bikernieki! One of the best mod tracks out there in my opinion
Group A Escort in Dirt 2.0 is a 7 speed manual h pattern.......
Oh yeah? Interesting! Didn’t know that
More exotic brands than fanatec? I'm new to sim racing and I just got a g920 because it was perfect for the budget and I looked at what I would want from fanatec. It cost $2,000+ for wheelbase, steering wheel, shifter, handbrake, and pedals. How much more exotic can you get? I know there was some direct drive wheel base for $2600 or something but that's literally insane 🤷♂️
You can spend as much as you want to in the game. There’s no upper limit :)
There is company based in UK who makes H-pattern shifter for 1.2k£
I'm curious to see whether the VNM Shifter does better than the Fanatec 🤔
Check out my VNM shifter review ;)
the fact that the best H shifter currently available is a product made in 2013 tells a lot
Yep it tells a story... but which one? Are people lazy because you can just use paddle shifters? Or is it not worth the effort to put more research and development into the products? Or both?
@@LaurenceDusoswa imho it isn't an easy product to develop and build, look at Heusinkveld and their attempt at making one, which failed in the end after just one prototype. also, there aren't much people who are willing to drive historic cars with the rise of GT3 and similar categories all over the sims.
SuperMonacoGP It’s a complex product to develop for sure but it’s just surprising that there isn’t a better consumer grade shifter out there
If you were to use the the drivehub, would you be able to use the fanatec shifter with a Thrustmaster TS 300 on a ps5?
As far as I know, yes. But I’m no expert, I have never used a drivehub before
bruh, that shipping is atrocious, one would think that because you're already spending hundreds of dollars with them they would offer free shipping.
I think that if you buy other stuff, the shipping is way cheaper. But if you just want a USB adapter you’re gonna get screwed :p
Ooh I spot an S13. Nice!
A subtle hint that I’m a car guy ;)
I have a question will this shift work on ATS & ETS those are the only games I really enjoy hope to get and answer.
On pc this shifter should work with any title as long as you can map controls. I don’t see why it wouldn’t work with either of those but have a quick google to make 100% sure
Long time no see its a nice shifter. But I perfer th8a from. Thrustmaster to me it feels more stable..i tried fanatec its good but gears are too close..sometimes I mess gears
I have a TH8a shifter review coming in the next few weeks ;)
@@LaurenceDusoswa ok cool
You end up doing this th8a yet???
I wonder if there's a mod to make an actual metal H-gate like in old Ferrari's?
The H gate is actual cast aluminum. (it's inside the big black box)
Do I need the USB adapter if I’m playing on pc of PlayStation?
Or*
The USB adapter is only for PC unfortunately. If you're on playstation, you can only use this with a fanatec wheelbase and do not need a usb adapter at all
Pro sim H Pattern shifter is the best but out of most peoples budgets
I’m getting one for test in the coming weeks
@@LaurenceDusoswa me too.
Did you get the black and gold special edition?
@@LaurenceDusoswa oh, for testing. You'll want to keep it 🤣
Hahaha I wish :p
I'm about to buy this. Could I use this on assetto corsa on ps4?
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@@LaurenceDusoswa absolutely
Throw is distance.You meant resistance. No way to adjust the former.
Not sure which part you’re referring to but yeah, there’s no way to adjust the throw other that using a longer gear knob or replacing the shaft. You can only adjust the resistance with the hex at the side.
can i use this fanatec shifter on the thrustmaster t300rs?,.
On PC, yes. You need a USB adapter for the shifter
@@LaurenceDusoswa Thank you!, planning to start sim racing and want the thrustmaster t300rs as my first wheel, and upgrade to fanatec in the future after having some experience and learn tweaking
Hey quick question can u install cube wheels to thrustmaster ??
Yes you certainly can! They sell an adapter on their site. It does need to be hooked up to your pc via USB though as it won’t connect the buttons to your pc without a dedicated cable.
@@LaurenceDusoswa ok thank you..im check it out
So does this shifter work with a logitech g920?
On console, no. On PC, yes, but only with a fanatec USB adapter.
Will the pair with any of the fanatec wheels?
Yes! If you’re on console or PC it will work with all the modern wheels and if you want to run it on pc with another non fanatec wheelbase you can buy a USB adapter. I have links in the description ;)
@@LaurenceDusoswa nice, I just ordered this kit. One more question. If I buy the load cell pedal kit... that is just the one pedal to add to the base that comes with this kit correct? Its 139 dollars.
My shifter went bad after two months using it.. replaced the internal stuff, it worked for another week and shit the bed again. Fanatec never again.
I’ve heard of some people having a similar experience :( how long ago was that?
@@LaurenceDusoswa 6 months
Ah that sucks :( I’ve had no bad luck thankfully but I’ve heard some horror stories :(
@@LaurenceDusoswa I heard tons of horror stories about G27 wheels before i got one. After 5-7 years of usage it's still fine
hey mate i am about to pull the trigger on this can u please measure the bottom from side to side and front to rear the base area and how high it is. my custom rig i am making i am doing it 3d program and cant find the measurements for it. if you can that will be awesome of you also if you do it in mm let me no plz.
the base is 126mm square
the highest point on the rear face is 145.5mm
the highest point at the front face is 124mm
the highest point at the sides is 138mm
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I would use the link but living in oz we have a seller here and shipping is way cheaper over all hope you are not offended. Again thank you mate love your work.
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@@MrFrosty888 I know you wrote your comment about 6 months ago but I bought some Clubsport v3 pedals, a universal steering wheel hub and this shifter and the postage was very reasonable. Also I’m just curious as to who is the seller you keep mentioning? Fanatec has their own Aus specific section of their site and a warehouse in Australia and don’t have any resellers or similar. For example, on Pagnian’s site they even say that they cannot match the prices Fanatec sells their products for and since they already have an Australian warehouse and very reasonable postage, why would you buy from anyone else, especially given that it’ll definitely be more expensive than purchasing directly from Fanatec?
Try a frex or if you are feeling very flush...a prosim
I’m tempted by the frex
I'm lucky enough to own fanatec DD one direct drive wheel also I have the formula wheel and a Porsche wheel set up all this is very expensive and not very enjoyable watching that money disappear but I'm looking at this Gear thinking maybe I've never ad Miss shift on my wheels but I still like idea using manual shift
manual shift is amazing especially for heel-toe and car control under braking!
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Thanks Epic
What track is this
Bikernieki. Great track!
Thanks
You're very welcome! Thanks for commenting
At price point, yes.
But those shifters are way better, they also way more expensive yea..
- www.pro-sim.co.uk/shop/h-pattern-shifter/#tab-description
- frex.com/store/product/hshift/
I’d love to try one :) I emailed them and they had no interest in me reviewing it 😂😂😂
This is so true 👍. Well at least it's not as worst as thrustmaster Pedals, thrustmaster released so many great sim hub and they all have the same cheap plastic toy 🙄 pedals as thrustmaster think that the pedals are being used by little kids🤦🤣.
hahaha
I wish the prosim shifter wasn't 2grand
I know 😂😂😂 check out the VNM shifter though
Nice S13
Apparently you're lucky with Fanatec products. Unfortunately, I would not recommend Fanatec even to my greatest enemy. After 2 weeks of use, Shifter began to make strange sounds and squeak as if it wasn't well lubricated. After less than two months, he stopped choosing the right gears. Currently, unfortunately, I am servicing it 3 times on my own, because I would sooner die than it would be properly serviced by Fanatec. Continuous blame on the user by this company and forcing to send dozens of videos showing the defect can upset even the most calm person. The Thrustmaster TH8A I had before was practically indestructible and reliable.
Are you still having the wrong gear issue? I found a fix from 2Old4Forza that completely fixed the issue for me.
Violin construction was perfected in the 17th century and hasn't changed in design since the 18th century. So 7 years of being unable to improve on a really good shifter shouldn't be that big of a deal. ;)
Hahaha that’s true. But the violin is the real thing. The h shifter on a sim rig is for simulation. I think it needs to be closer to the real thing. Don’t ask me how to do that, but right now if you had a sim shifter in your real car you would not enjoy driving it as much.
@@LaurenceDusoswa
That’s just ridiculous, to the point of being stupid; tell me, would you want to use ANY piece of sim racing hardware in a real car? How would you go using some Clubsport v3 pedals in a real car, having zero feedback for the clutch and brake pedals? In a real car one can actually feel when the brakes lock and with practice one can feel when they’re just about to lock, and stay on the threshold of locking to achieve the maximum possible braking performance. And with a clutch pedal one can feel the rpm drop and the engine starting to bog down if either not enough rpm or letting the clutch pedal out too quickly. Obviously since nothing like that is even remotely possible on a sim racing setup, your remark seems completely asinine.
I think that’s the exact point I’m making @Aaron
A real problem with Fanatec handbrake 1.5 Supposedly quality gear but cheap crap. My cord broke three days after I hooked it up. Cheap plastic 8th inch jack to a cheap RJ-45 that’s German quality for you! = made in china
Yeah most sim racing bits come from China :p I have heard of quite a few failures of these. Mine is still going strong though
@@designamk1160 Many of the parts and electronics do come from china. What gear do you use?
To the H good, SQ bad.
The sequential could be better for sure
Unfortunately they are unreliable
There's only one issue with misshifts that i know of and that's sorted quite cheaply with some tape. There are many videos on it
@@LaurenceDusoswa I've done it a few times, dont get me wrong its one of the best out there and i prefer it, but its not as reliable as some of the others. Ive had to fix mine several times. One recommendation is not to switch back and forth from sequential to h-pattern. Best to use paddles for for it
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Just say it's sponsored.
There’s a big difference. No company is paying me for this. If my community wants to use my links I make a small amount of money with each completed purchase. That helps me buy new hardware for more reviews. I wouldn’t accept money from a company whose hardware I’m reviewing. And for a reviewer to buy every single piece of hardware with money not earned by the channel is just not possible. Hope that clears things up. Definitely not sponsored.
If it makes any difference, I also paid for this product with my own money and have never received a single product from fanatec