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    We compared artillery on today's episode of Star Wars Factions Compared.
    The Galactic Empire, Rebel Alliance, Confederacy of Independent Systems and the Galactic Republic vie for the best Star Wars Legends artillery, as the AT-IC, SPHA, DDT and the MPTL-2a.
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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  7 лет назад +188

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    • @Niggins96
      @Niggins96 7 лет назад

      EckhartsLadder I understand this is probably the worst place to put it but how do you think Greivous from legends would do against a space marines or a primarch as I think master chief was hardly a fair match for the good General

    • @draconisthewyvern3664
      @draconisthewyvern3664 7 лет назад +2

      @EckhartsLadder your wrong and here is why: 1) your critic of the separatist artillery not being durable is invalid because it is artillery. the point of artillery is to NOT be durable; the point of artillery is to carry a long ranged gun that can use indirect fire methods lobbing high explosive shells and etc. in other words it is meant to give a giant middle finger to the enemy long before the enemy ever actually endangers the artillery and its support teams or the main units ahead of them.
      2) a SPG or self propelled gun should be mobile so it can deliver its punch much faster and be easier to move around
      3) the republic artillery is the ANTITHESIS of the point and being of what an artillery piece is (the one you picked for them anyways). first off it is direct fire; even early gun powder artillery was not direct fire only. this limits the actual punch it has as a artillery piece significantly don't get me wrong it is powerful but not as a artillery piece. it would be more accurate to call it a anti-orbital platform or heavy AA. EVEN THAN HOWEVER the republic "artillery" is not great at this role due to it being direct fire.
      4) for all of these reasons the republic artillery should be LAST no matter how powerful it was/is. it does not fit the role of artillery in any capacity. an the top two artillery pieces should be from the rebel alliance and the CIS with CIS being first.

    • @matthewfritz4629
      @matthewfritz4629 7 лет назад

      I believe that the DDT is the better artillery mainly do to the fact the rounds guarantee kills. The weapon may have its draw back but, the Republic can't shield its entire army.
      Could the UNSC stop a Zerg invasion

    • @Phello123
      @Phello123 7 лет назад

      Byss fleet vs earth home fleet
      Courasaunt fleet (with reinforcements)vs high charity
      Rothana battleship vs marathon cruiser
      Rothana battleship vs ccs battlecruiser

    • @Phello123
      @Phello123 7 лет назад +1

      Empire vs covenant in a full out war

  • @ThatOneGuy46696
    @ThatOneGuy46696 7 лет назад +1704

    *sees title*
    Oh yeah, the Republic's got this one in the bag.

    • @luscinius2933
      @luscinius2933 7 лет назад +8

      SPMA turbolaser was as powerful as SPHA one, but smaller and lighter. It's a no brainer win for Empire.

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 7 лет назад +6

      Agreed

    • @thyreradim7885
      @thyreradim7885 7 лет назад +4

      Mr. Hand, I SWEAR TO GOD THEY DON'T HAVE ECM'S WHERE DID YOU EVEN GET THAT SHIT.

    • @Sam_Hyde_Apologist
      @Sam_Hyde_Apologist 7 лет назад +12

      Erndem Sterff Prederctions it's pretty dumb how the empire is almost always last on these lists, aren't they suppose to succeed the clones? How come they suck in every category? Stormtroopers are worse than rebel militia?! WTF

    • @Sam_Hyde_Apologist
      @Sam_Hyde_Apologist 7 лет назад +2

      Luscinius nope unfortunately Lucas arts or whoever wants the empire to be the most incompetent military in star wars history

  • @pain6874
    @pain6874 5 лет назад +1021

    The thing about the clone wars was that the vehicles were actually designed for practicality. Unlike the original trilogy.

    • @nonyabuisness6642
      @nonyabuisness6642 5 лет назад +122

      Practicality in war. AT-ATs are good for pirates, criminals and rebels. Attaching an ion cannon just seems like a quick and affordable way to deal with real wars

    • @Buzzy_Bland
      @Buzzy_Bland 4 года назад +27

      That Spectacular Landing Which is why we have a giant centipede with a laser cannon attached to it that can only fire directly.

    • @Myjacob99
      @Myjacob99 4 года назад +36

      The Empires weaponry was made more for intimidation

    • @roninnder
      @roninnder 4 года назад +45

      No vehicle with legs can be said to be a practical design. They are a complete farce, laughably bad. Anything else is better. Wheels? Better. Treads? Better. Repulsorlift? Waaaaay better. Just having one that sits still on the ground is still arguably better than how stupid it would be from an engineering perspective to make a vehicle with legs.

    • @CoinEaterBTBM
      @CoinEaterBTBM 4 года назад +7

      3:32 so are we ignoring this? Or the... anything with legs?

  • @wickiei4556
    @wickiei4556 7 лет назад +693

    Honestly, the Grand Republic Army is one of the best armies in Star Wars. It has a wide variety of troops and vehicles, clear troop and commandstructure, specialized troops etc. But their navy... is utter bullshit to be honest. Their mainstayship is a carrier, they have no real dedicated battlecruiser, battleship, light frigates/corvettes etc. If they would have treated their navy like a real navy, they would have probably won the war.

    • @AnonYmous-dh2zt
      @AnonYmous-dh2zt 7 лет назад +14

      Wickie LP it's the Grand Army of the Republic GAR

    • @king-mihai
      @king-mihai 7 лет назад +55

      Wickie LP actualy they didnt need to change the venator,they could just upgrade it(sidegrade)to make it a battleship,make the hangar smaller an add wepons and more energy cells

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 7 лет назад +33

      they did win the war

    • @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539
      @fightingtypegymleadermicha1539 7 лет назад +77

      the only won because the war was designed for them to win
      had the CIS not been manipulated it's ability to blockade and orbital strike troops easily due to navel superiority, as well as overwhelm republic forces on the ground after cutting off supplies and bombarding positions would have won the war

    • @georgbergsten6050
      @georgbergsten6050 7 лет назад +3

      agreed

  • @illusivetofu6963
    @illusivetofu6963 4 года назад +125

    The DDT would have been incredibly effective against the Yuuzong Vong. Their all organic military would have been very susceptible to it

  • @TheT7770ify
    @TheT7770ify 7 лет назад +820

    Aside from the clones star wars doesn't really do artillery that well. Most things seem to rely on just big guns on walkers rather then an actually useful bit of artillery

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 7 лет назад +16

      Eckhart's get's some stuff wrong, along with never going into really great detail.

    • @billclark5055
      @billclark5055 6 лет назад +10

      CIS has good artillery.

    • @grahamflorida5942
      @grahamflorida5942 5 лет назад +5

      The T4Bs used by the Rebels weren't too terrible

    • @maximumeffort7096
      @maximumeffort7096 5 лет назад +6

      The CIS's artillery is literally smaller than the republics, and does more damage.

    • @lorrainesebastian959
      @lorrainesebastian959 5 лет назад +1

      Imperitus the CIS have ok artillery but compared to the republics artillery you just can't compare

  • @carrierooks3816
    @carrierooks3816 5 лет назад +94

    The ddt fires the defoiler that destroys organic beings.
    Everyone: lets hide behind\on top of a tree

    • @dapperfield595
      @dapperfield595 4 года назад +7

      Tree: Am I a joke to you?

    • @stgjavveling9807
      @stgjavveling9807 4 года назад +7

      I mean if it’s outside the range... does not matter does it?

  • @ggallqas7442
    @ggallqas7442 7 лет назад +183

    I really love this series. It helps me learn a little more about the Star Wars universe. Great video ecks

  • @evanibarra8921
    @evanibarra8921 7 лет назад +116

    Great video
    It's unfortunate that so many source books don't focus on strictly ground warfare in star wars and especially artillery so good job ecks

    • @evanibarra8921
      @evanibarra8921 7 лет назад

      what i meant was fixed artillery not mobile fixed but you are right

  • @UGNAvalon
    @UGNAvalon 7 лет назад +385

    “De-foil-er” - Its pronounced “de-fo-li-ate-er” :P

  • @willfuchs1
    @willfuchs1 7 лет назад +277

    You have a great vibe and flow. Your content is digestible for individuals with a surface level understanding of the Star Wars Universe yet remains entertaining for those with a deeper knowledge base. I don't know if you've done this already but which faction has the best "spy" unit. I'm unsure how much information would be readily available but would be interesting nonetheless.

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 лет назад +28

      Thanks for the compliment!

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 7 лет назад +5

      So bothan spys, isb(? I think the imperial spy people?), not sure about cis, and maybe delta squad? Jedi? For republic

    • @rawhidelamp
      @rawhidelamp 6 лет назад +3

      I can say your last name and correct me if im wrong. I believe it is "fucks"
      Please excuse the shit comment i 100% agree, Eckharts Ladder is awesome

    • @joshg1555
      @joshg1555 5 лет назад +3

      The Rawhide nigga what

    • @lenkagamine4145
      @lenkagamine4145 5 лет назад +2

      @@mondaysinsanity8193 CIS would be commando droids. Bothan spies for rebels. Clone commandoes for republic, probably, though thats the one I'm most unsure about as they're a primarily combatative role. And imperial intelligence for empire.

  • @Luring_Leon
    @Luring_Leon 4 года назад +12

    What I love is how George L went about vehicles in the clone wars. “So yea the separatists will have 10 different capital ships with there own unique features. And the republic will have a smaller star destroyer and a mini version of that version

  • @Echo1608.
    @Echo1608. 7 лет назад +41

    Wonderful video!
    Also in the 2003 Clone Wars series the SPHA was seen arcing its shots throughout many different episodes.

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 7 лет назад +3

      That was shells, not beams.

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 года назад +3

      Yes, they can be equipped with mass driver cannons that allow them to arc.

  • @BrownFoxWarrior
    @BrownFoxWarrior 5 лет назад +47

    "Never will really be on the front lines."
    *looks back over years of Empire at War*
    Yeah...about that claim...

  • @XepherTim
    @XepherTim 7 лет назад +99

    Excellent video as always! I will admit, my first thought for Republic artillery would actually be the AV-7 Antivehicle Cannon, which we see in the Clone Wars show at the Battle of Christophsis. It is a bit more of a traditional mortar-like piece, while your list seems to be using more varied, mobile artillery pieces.
    And as much as I love the SPHA-T, I'm not entirely sure it is capable of arcing it's shots, which of course be a significant downside to any artillery piece, as it would then require a direct line of sight to its target. Wookiepedia(my only source because I'm lazy) states as much. Also apparently the gun had limited charge, and would have to be replaced with a different gun after firing, I suppose that is there downside instead of reloading.
    Personally I think a better choice would have been the SPHA-C, a variant that instead fired concussion missiles, the downside of course being limited ammunition. Although it exists only in text-form in reference books, so might not work as well for the video.
    (derp, forgot you mentioned it in the video :p)
    And while the AT-IC is an interesting idea, I'm not sure it works quite as well in practice. One issues is that, simply judging by the one images we have to work off of, it seems as if the walker would have to face away from the battle/target, so that the Ion Cannon can fire at it, because the remaining body of the walker would get in the way of the cannon. This decreases the ability of the walker to defend itself from closer ranged attacks. Additionally, removing a large amount of the original volume of the walker significantly decreases its ability to be used for its original purpose, transportation, with most of the remaining space likely being needed for power plants due to the large power energy requirements of the Ion Cannon.
    Anyways, these are just my opinions, love your videos, keep up the great work!

    • @XepherTim
      @XepherTim 7 лет назад +8

      Alright searched around a bit more. In the 2003 Clone Wars show, the (presumably) SPHA-Ts fire more traditional turbolaser style projectiles, with some definitely arcing. Although in the Attack of the Clones, the do seem to be more directed energy beam weapons, however the wiki does state they use a heavy turbolaser beam(although a turbolaser beam doesn't doesn't quite fit with our working knowledge of how turbolasers work? idk might just be me). Although the 2003 show isn't canon, this could just be explained as different variations of the base SPHA, which as you mentioned has many canon variations anyways.

    • @sorrrbet4923
      @sorrrbet4923 7 лет назад +6

      I personally would've gone with the AV-7 instead of the SPHA. It's mroe versatile and we see its destructive power in the Clone Wars movie especially well.

    • @asetect292
      @asetect292 6 лет назад +1

      XepherTim I

    • @jordanpowell2242
      @jordanpowell2242 6 лет назад +3

      XepherTim the AT-7 can actually move it has tracks located on its legs is able to move but at a slower pace making it a prime target for faster droid vechicles such as hellfire and homing spider droids and can attacked by air units

    • @TankHunter678
      @TankHunter678 6 лет назад +4

      I think the AT-IC as a platform could work, specifically if you swap out the direct fire ion cannon for a missile system, largely due to how the missile system could be used for either an AA role, or to augment its forward weaponry by firing missiles with thrusters to arc themselves down onto far off targets. One could also replace the ion cannon with a heavy point defense laser turret for helping deal with air targets. In essence while the transportation space is gone it can be made to function as a heavy escort walker. Especially due to that weakness to tow cables from fast speeders.

  • @iandinkla5852
    @iandinkla5852 7 лет назад +51

    Really great video idea! Even though I love the CIS military I certainly believe you got it right saying the republic won this one. A video on tanks would be cool

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 7 лет назад

      Why? So the Republic wins again with the AT-TE? Cause they probably will.

    • @fitzgerald297
      @fitzgerald297 7 лет назад +1

      I agree. Love those tanks.

    • @iandinkla5852
      @iandinkla5852 7 лет назад +1

      bogustoast22 none , m8 The AT-TE is no tank. They would get the TX-130 Saber class tank likely. I believe he already did some sort of video which used the AT-TE as the republic main and besides it is a walker

    • @iandinkla5852
      @iandinkla5852 7 лет назад

      bogustoast22 none I mean I get what you are saying but Eckhart would likely choose the vehicle that best fits as a proper tank

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 7 лет назад +2

      Ian Dinkla understandable, but remember that the ATTE IS a tank, just a walker instead of threads or repulsor lift.
      Again, understandable if not used (cause it fits many rolls and it can get boring) it IS a tank itself.

  • @mRNA-qb2zp
    @mRNA-qb2zp 7 лет назад +33

    Yees finally I’ve been requesting this for WEEKS

  • @witherwolf3316
    @witherwolf3316 Месяц назад +1

    I feel like the J-1 proton cannon may be a more practical representative for the Confederacy, considering that it was already mass-produced and widely implemented. It was also useful for more sensitive fire missions, for when you're defending areas and don't want to scorch your own people.

  • @brycesweeney6792
    @brycesweeney6792 7 лет назад +20

    I feel as though you chose a terrible artillery for the Empire when a better option was available. I feel as though it'd be more fair if you used the Imperial artillery from Empire at War, considering how you used the Rebel artillery from Empire at War.

  • @togglefire3537
    @togglefire3537 7 лет назад +44

    I think the AT-IC is a good base idea. If it was faster it would be good. But with the cannon if you could figure out a way to mount different weapons it could be effective. Love the video and the vehicle pick. Keep it up Eck!!

    • @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion
      @AlphariusPrimarchoftheXXLegion 7 лет назад +1

      Toggle Fire There was the AT-LC which had a big Lasercannon on its back.

    • @togglefire3537
      @togglefire3537 7 лет назад

      Wassermelonen Beschützer sweeeeeeeeeeet! Hahaha thats what i like to hear! They can get you coming and going with that lol

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 7 лет назад

      It's a TOY! That was NEVER seen again!

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 7 лет назад +1

      An IC version of the AT-AA would probably be super effective.

    • @togglefire3537
      @togglefire3537 7 лет назад

      Chris sonofPear and your point is?

  • @Comet5551
    @Comet5551 7 лет назад +11

    For a vehicle vs episode: All Terrain Anti-Aircraft (AT-AA) vs Type-52 Anti-Aircraft Artillery (AA Wraith)
    For a factions compared episode: Which faction had the best repulsor lift tank

  • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
    @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 лет назад +17

    MPTL has an effective range of 120 km. That is actually stated on Wookieepedia. MRLS's generally have ridiculous ranges. Irl,they can shoot up to 200km

    • @endengineer2441
      @endengineer2441 4 года назад

      MPTL-2a has a range of 20km not 120km.

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 года назад +1

      @@endengineer2441 Well it says "more than 20 kilometers" technically. Eck seriously underestimated the firepower of those things too. Sure they don't look great in a game that tries to have balance, but remember that those are proton torpedos, which are anti-capital ship by nature.

    • @endengineer2441
      @endengineer2441 3 года назад +1

      @@Noah-zz8uw WDYM it doesn't look good in game? I obliterated everything using them. XD

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 года назад

      @@endengineer2441 lol they're still pretty good in game too. I remember one setting up and obliterating everything in it's way :)

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 7 лет назад +86

    See's the DDT.
    Me: OH MY!

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 7 лет назад +2

      the designer who appears in the same episode the DDT was first shown is voiced by George Tekei AKA mister Sulu.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 7 лет назад +1

      Well, first DDT was the common name for an infamous pesticide that was used extensively in the 60's and 70's but later banned for its effects on the enviroment. The other thing, is that in the episode of the Clone Wars where this weapon was introduced, the Nemoidian who created it, is voiced by George Tekai

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 7 лет назад +2

      HabitableMango2 well look up 3rd rock from the sun George Tekei oh my.

  • @Brett-uq4tz
    @Brett-uq4tz Месяц назад +1

    The mobile proton torpedo launcher would be interesting to see if you could use it to do a creeping barrage.

  • @dietsalamander7173
    @dietsalamander7173 7 лет назад +10

    Eck is my favorite Star Wars RUclipsr

  • @rolypoly1591
    @rolypoly1591 7 лет назад +8

    Excellent as always Eck

  • @ravenks1sr15
    @ravenks1sr15 7 лет назад +104

    Rip Muunilist
    SPHA-T pave the way for Total War 😉😉😉😉😉

    • @Perceval777
      @Perceval777 5 лет назад +1

      @Gummibärchen mit honig Actually, he didn't destroy all of them. If you look closely, just before the Arc troopers attack the CIS command centre, the Banking Clan guys are monitoring the Republic's advance and they see SPHA-T's still firing after Durge's attack was stopped by Obi-Wan. So there were a few left.

  • @darthkenobi2399
    @darthkenobi2399 7 лет назад +17

    Artillery? Never thought of that :P

  • @bificommander7472
    @bificommander7472 7 лет назад +115

    Realistically, if your artillery needs heavy armour protection, you're using it wrong. The rebel artillery, probably by virtue of coming from an RTS game that wants units to be balanced (at least until the Forces of corruption expansion came along), is the best actual artillery.
    That said, in most star wars media artillery, and long ranged weapons of any kind really, are being used wrong. So, go nuts with the expensive, hard to transport glorified heavy tanks masquerading as artillery.

    • @isaacfirst3112
      @isaacfirst3112 5 лет назад +4

      This is very true

    • @OK-yy6qz
      @OK-yy6qz 5 лет назад +3

      Honestly the Rebel artillery isn't that great it's not as powerful as the Republic artillery and doesn't do the Area Damage the CIS Artillery does (even though CIS artillery kind of reminds me of Mortars)

    • @adammullarkey4996
      @adammullarkey4996 5 лет назад +8

      A lot of real-world self-propelled guns are armoured. That doesn't mean they're not artillery.
      I'm not saying you're wrong - just that you aren't right. Artillery with armour just means that, if it is unfortunate enough to get into close quarters, it can survive long enough to either run away or defend itself. Besides which, you say that artillery which finds itself in close-quarters combat is being used wrong? Even artillery used perfectly can find itself outmanoeuvred occasionally, and when that happened, I'd rather have artillery that can take a hit.

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad 5 лет назад

      The rebel artillery fails in one major aspect (well, two, but we'll get their). It has short range. Short range artillery has it's uses, but it's just generally not a particularly good idea, a better one being to make your artillery in such a way it can fire at short range, it just isn't designed specifically for that purpose (the CIS artillery is the only example which could fit that role in this list). Now, if they designed it to be a sort of tank with a higher focus on firepower rather than breakthrough, it having short range would be fine, except it clearly isn't, because it lacks armor and shielding. The empire probably has the best artillery piece out of the lot, it's platform just isn't suited for artillery, and the republic seemingly decided that it would be a good idea to utilize a capital ship weapon for ground battles, which is overkilling the overkill.

    • @nonyabuisness6642
      @nonyabuisness6642 5 лет назад +3

      I mean, your probably thinking of real wars, but in Star Wars you have higher quality air support, better scanning, and self-guided rockets. A little armor can go a long way to protect critical equipment

  • @canadious6933
    @canadious6933 7 лет назад

    Besides the CIS and Republic artillery, all these were new to me. I didn't expect this kind of video either. I like it, I'll drop a like.

  • @jasonmartinez911
    @jasonmartinez911 7 лет назад +13

    Can't get enough of your vids 🙂🙂🙂

  • @axcenomega
    @axcenomega 6 месяцев назад +1

    Before I start this video heres what I think it’ll be the CIS artillery specifically the regular cannon droid artillery that has been seen shooting down acclamators

  • @walkergargagliano142
    @walkergargagliano142 7 лет назад +27

    best speeder (stap, barc, etc

  • @COYM_1908
    @COYM_1908 7 лет назад

    I found this channel 3 days ago and have watched around 20 videos already. Amazing channel. 😍

  • @AxelOwnz
    @AxelOwnz 7 лет назад +9

    Been watching this series for a while. Gotta say i love it. Really makes my day better everytime i see a new one of these on my feed.

  • @SignumInterriti
    @SignumInterriti 7 лет назад +2

    As I remember Empire At War, it gave the empire a rather light, dedicated artillery walker with a canon that seemd to be a smaler version of the SPHAs main weapon. I found it to be quite practical if well supported and deplyoed in some numbers. Definitely less odd than an AT-AT with a huge ion gun on its back.

  • @nickvinsable3798
    @nickvinsable3798 7 лет назад +5

    I personally believe that the AT-IC may have more like the AT-TE in terms of where the artillery piece was specifically placed.
    However, those ‘Gorilla Walkers’ that were originally introduced in “Last Jedi, the” may have been the actual successor to the AT-IC.

  • @Subtlestrife
    @Subtlestrife 7 лет назад +1

    I think it would be interesting if you did a whole video on the Grand Army of the Republic's various artillery pieces. It would be interesting to see what you think of each one and how you might rank them against each other.

  • @aidanlittell6826
    @aidanlittell6826 7 лет назад +8

    Love your vids I’m a big clone wars fan myself

  • @ArtisBlankfaces
    @ArtisBlankfaces 5 лет назад +1

    Those rebbel Artillerie has given me so much trouble in
    Empire at war.

  • @thememeteam858
    @thememeteam858 5 лет назад +4

    Honestly I think the Defoliator is very effective when used as an anti-infantry weapon. It suffers against armor but when you need to flush enemies out of a forest or fortification

    • @badideagenerator2315
      @badideagenerator2315 2 года назад +1

      Its also going to be cheaper than the other contenders, since they're literally just swapping out the gun on one of their mass-produced battle tanks.
      The manual loading is inconvenient, but its probably easier to manufacture than an automatic loading system.
      Not to mention it still has 2 repeating blaster cannons and 6 torpedo tubes to defend itself with.

  • @alexernst9448
    @alexernst9448 6 лет назад +2

    For me the MPTL will always hold a place of terror in my heart. So many ground landings in EAW turned into massacres once those rockets started hitting the LZ.

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 7 лет назад +23

    The republic one looks cool. Your vids are amazing.

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 7 лет назад +1

      Gerardo Reyes I agree Eckhart's Ladder has great videos 👍👍

  • @ZTWaka
    @ZTWaka 6 лет назад

    Cant stop watching these comparison vids theyre so good

  • @dfdf5366
    @dfdf5366 7 лет назад +7

    Sweet thank you for the new video😎

    • @dfdf5366
      @dfdf5366 7 лет назад

      Just remove it then make a comment you are fine

  • @Barterylane
    @Barterylane 5 лет назад

    Great list, amazing analysis, and good place reasonings. This video deserves the likes.

  • @johnnyjor562
    @johnnyjor562 7 лет назад +8

    i love your videos and i would like for you to continue so thank you

  • @nobody4248
    @nobody4248 Год назад +2

    Imps when Rebels make a Katyusha

  • @edlippincott6205
    @edlippincott6205 7 лет назад +11

    it bothers me that sometimes you pick extremely obscure quality vehicles to represent the empire and other times when they have a better option for something you pick the most common one such as the tie bomber in bombers compared. I don't care which philosophy you pick for for the sake of consistency pick one.

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, plus for this video he picked 3 vehicles that aren’t artillery and are tanks pretending to be artillery. The only actually artillery piece on this list is the Rebellion’s MPTL which actually has a rang just over 20 kilometers which isn’t that short of a range at all given how Star Wars battles are usually fought.

    • @sasir2013
      @sasir2013 3 года назад

      @@cryamistellimek9184 I would argue that the separatist's defoiler IS artillery, since it shoots at long range using ballistics and is meant to be behind the front lines
      Sure, it's mounted on a tank, but a machine gun in a tank is still a machine gun

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 3 года назад

      @@sasir2013 Maybe, but given the shells it fires it’s range as an artillery piece doesn’t seem to be considered, and most tanks would be able to outshoot even that. I’d argue it’s more a support vehicle than an artillery piece.

    • @skorpion7132
      @skorpion7132 Год назад

      @@cryamistellimek9184 Personally, the HAG would've been a better choice probably at first glance. However, I can't find much info on what either vehicle's respective effective range is with their main weapon. however both do function according what we consider artillery. So, either the HAG or DDT can freely call itself artillery asside the MRLS-style MPTL.... which would have an interesting counterpart in the Hailfire Droid at that.

  • @red9mm
    @red9mm 7 лет назад +1

    Can you imagine if Saw Guerera got ahold of some DDT’s? If it kills clones, it’d kill stormtroopers. Think of how brutal that’d be

  • @dino.antares
    @dino.antares 7 лет назад +30

    Have you read every Legends comics and books? Ive read many but not all, some are soo rare!

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 лет назад +11

      Not every, but a good percentage. A lot of the ones I'm missing are kids books or the old marvel comics or novels from the clone wars era

    • @dino.antares
      @dino.antares 7 лет назад +1

      EckhartsLadder I've read some of the Legends comics of Clone wars. Republic issues 40 to 60, Grevious comics etc something like that in a collected edition called "Star Wars Omnibus: Clone Wars vol 1-3". You can find them on torrents

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 7 лет назад +1

      I have a few novels left...

    • @jordanpowell2242
      @jordanpowell2242 6 лет назад

      Shiladitya Talukder my fav is the crimson empire storyline

  • @lordorion5776
    @lordorion5776 7 лет назад +1

    EckhartsLadder i'd like to make an important distinction here "artillery" are immobile platforms all the vehicles your talking about are whats called Self Propelled Guns (SPGs) although SW might call them artillery there is a huge difference between the two

  • @tacowarj5305
    @tacowarj5305 7 лет назад +3

    Hey ecks I love your Chanel and you are awesome!

  • @kitfisto9854
    @kitfisto9854 3 года назад

    This man is a mad lad, we need to get him to 1 Million, because he god damn well deserves it.

  • @Nick-tc1xy
    @Nick-tc1xy 7 лет назад +17

    Star Wars EAW FOC is the best!

  • @adriencabanel9126
    @adriencabanel9126 7 лет назад

    I love this video ! But you’re wrong zith one thing, they were not used in space in venator ventral hangars (they would be place upside down to be able to shot something from below)
    If you play Star Wars Battlefront 2, you’ll see that the venator has a laser canon sticking out of the hanger, i suggest you check it out ! ;)
    Anyways keep doing what you’re doing i fucking love it !

  • @Louthanjen
    @Louthanjen 7 лет назад +41

    keep the good work up

  • @toometh1595
    @toometh1595 7 лет назад +2

    Yay you’re still doing this!

  • @thejaxter6993
    @thejaxter6993 5 лет назад +3

    My first thought of the AT-IT:
    This was just to sell toys, right

  • @sprinkleman8103
    @sprinkleman8103 4 года назад +1

    Harrison Ford: Wants Han Solo to die
    Star Wars: Oh no, he won’t die in the Original Trilogy.
    Harrison Ford: *The What Now Trilogy?*

  • @sashali6666
    @sashali6666 5 лет назад +5

    Artillery: Imperials pull out a Death Star

  • @chel9190
    @chel9190 6 лет назад

    7:25 Whenever I hear the firing sound I don't even dare look at my Stormtroopers getting destroyed in seconds by that thing. It's horrifyingly overpowered

  • @enderdrone6432
    @enderdrone6432 7 лет назад +12

    When you said that the AT-IC is the worst for both worlds I started singing like Hannah Montana XD! 🎶The AT-IC is the WORST For both Worlds! So the Empire is bad, with their design Choice!🎶

  • @Dallows65
    @Dallows65 7 лет назад +1

    De-Foliator. As in it destroys Foliage (As well as all organic matter). Fo-lee-ate-or.
    Good video!

  • @AS-vn8bc
    @AS-vn8bc 7 лет назад +10

    thank you for making this
    understand artillery much better know you the best

  • @thatrandomsquirrel2924
    @thatrandomsquirrel2924 4 года назад

    What your videos have taught me: The Grand Army Of The Republic was the best and will never be topped

  • @carrosivejones1969
    @carrosivejones1969 6 лет назад +6

    Something tells me the DDT might be extremely effective against the yuzang vong

  • @joshbull623
    @joshbull623 7 лет назад

    Great video as always, closing in on 200k subs too!

  • @26th_Primarch
    @26th_Primarch 7 лет назад +3

    You can see spha units firing in an arc mode during the battle of muunilist in the clone wars microseries

  • @spartenkiller456
    @spartenkiller456 4 года назад +2

    The MPTL is a beast, it's the Stalin's organ of Star Wars

    • @Noah-zz8uw
      @Noah-zz8uw 3 года назад

      I think he really underestimated it. Proton torpedos are literally anti capital ship weapons, and sure, alone it can't aim super well, but it's effective range is greatly increased, and the accuracy is also increased simply with a spotter droid. To add, it's fast, and can deploy and undeply quickly. Artillery doesn't need to be heavily armored or necessarily work without spotters if it's far behind allied lines and away from the battlefield like most of it should be.

  • @marioman683
    @marioman683 7 лет назад +8

    This helps me as a Star Wars nerd to improve my knowledge 🤓🤓🤓

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 6 лет назад +1

    If we're talking about direct-fire, the Republic wins, no contest. If we're talking about indirect fire, I'd say the Rebels win, but only because you're giving the Empire the shitty AT-IC instead of the SPMA.

  • @Shayna3601
    @Shayna3601 5 лет назад +4

    I would have made the defibrillator in multi barreled launcher with a smaller blast radius but much faster firing rate and an automatic reloader

  • @Milk-zn4yc
    @Milk-zn4yc 7 лет назад

    Thank god you did this video although with the cis and republic you didint even mention the most artillery like vehicles the av7 or j1, it was still a good video and you did great with what little star wars gave you to work with in the ways of artillery i love artillery in general and the idea of completely destroying armies without losing a single man makes artillery one of if not the most important aspect of any military in my opinion.

  • @GonzoIV
    @GonzoIV 7 лет назад +3

    You should of used the Self-Propelled Medium Artillery for the empire!!!

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 7 лет назад +1

    The CIS also has in legends the two different types of HAG, the massive MTT-based plasma(Or mass driver it's not made clear) Howitzer model from Star Wars: Starfighter and the smaller more AAT-sized model from the Clone Wars video game (The driving focused one centered around the life-reaping Sith weapon)

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 7 лет назад +3

    Thunderbolt Starfury from Babylon 5 vs the Sabre from Halo Reach.
    VF-1S Valkyrie variable fighter from SDF Macross (not Robotech) vs the Union Overflag from Gundam 00.
    Grimgerde from Gundam IBO vs the Talgeese from Gundam Wing.

  • @doublelunch24
    @doublelunch24 7 лет назад

    Nice vid! Can you do a whole video explaining hyperspace weaponization, including rams and the Galaxy Gun? Confusing and contentious topic since TLJ.

  • @tiefighter8401
    @tiefighter8401 7 лет назад +30

    Why not the SPMA-T? for Empire

    • @robertserafini3995
      @robertserafini3995 7 лет назад +7

      because he hates the empire

    • @bogustoast22none25
      @bogustoast22none25 7 лет назад +9

      Guessing it's be too similar to the Republic one. And now that very effective.
      It would require a lockdown phase like the rebel artillery, but it's far slower and even worse armored.
      The AT-IC while unwieldily, can at least fire while moving or actually withstand blaster fire, increasing chances of survival in case it all goes to hell.

    • @thyreradim7885
      @thyreradim7885 7 лет назад +3

      Because this is the most commonly used and well known, and eck loves that particular walker.

    • @playableelite5209
      @playableelite5209 7 лет назад +2

      Because he will do anything to make the republic look good. Even use the worst artillery the empire has

    • @freeminer1000
      @freeminer1000 6 лет назад +1

      The Emperor Maybe because the Republic actually has/had one of the best army’s?

  • @wolfgod6443
    @wolfgod6443 7 лет назад +1

    6:21 "Weapon and tank not very durable." *takes a lightsaber to destroy it*
    I do agree with the list, but I don't think durability can be considered bad if we've only seen one of the most powerful weapons in Star Wars take it out.

  • @jpawlus33458
    @jpawlus33458 6 лет назад +11

    Me: “sees DDT”
    Man that probably would’ve been so helpful during the Vong war 😑

    • @nowanimportant8887
      @nowanimportant8887 4 года назад +1

      Just amp up the power of the special warheads and watch as a single shell burns a Worldship.

  • @maxcook356
    @maxcook356 4 года назад

    Ladder: Anakin destroys the separatists artillery with a run through of his lightsaber
    Me: *well yeah of course you dingus lightsabers go through anything*

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 7 лет назад +8

    Eckhart's Ladder 👍

  • @josephkim3085
    @josephkim3085 7 лет назад

    I love ur videos keep up th great work and please do which faction has the best armour

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 7 лет назад +4

    X-83 Twintail vs. Tie Defender (the Legends version)

    • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
      @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 лет назад

      Jacob Robert IMHO, twintail would win. Its just too heavy and the technology gap is way too large

    • @michaelbracho3956
      @michaelbracho3956 7 лет назад

      Great idea but is it a tie defender elite or standard

    • @lightspeedvictory
      @lightspeedvictory 7 лет назад

      Michael Bracho as I said, this is the ORIGINAL Tie Defender from Legends, armed with 4 laser cannons, 2 ion cannons, ordnance launchers, and tractor beams. Not the shitty Disney remake. LONG LIVE STAR WARS LEGENDS!!!!!!!!!

    • @michaelbracho3956
      @michaelbracho3956 7 лет назад

      Hell fucking yes fuck Disney

  • @fawwazn.1244
    @fawwazn.1244 6 лет назад +1

    FINALLY!! We can do a Star Wars artillery only game xD

  • @InevitableVitare
    @InevitableVitare 7 лет назад +3

    Is that the Rebel Missile thing from Empire At War? God those things were the worst. They were just awful to fight against. The AI was a monster at using them.

    • @Lerpustin
      @Lerpustin 7 лет назад

      InevitableVitare was fun to see them while u only have infantry

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 7 лет назад

      There was an older version of it in Force Commander, a prior game.

    • @d-man9921
      @d-man9921 7 лет назад

      InevitableVitare
      I threw all the civilians and stormtroopers at the but none of them reached their minimum range. Otherwise I used speeder bikes and planted bombs directly near them.
      Also the AI doesn't have fog of war and that's why it can use them so good.

  • @93kupper
    @93kupper 7 лет назад

    Geth vs Cylons. Maybe add two more in to that. Other than that keep up the good work, your videos are great man. (From a fellow Canadian)

  • @VadanManadis
    @VadanManadis 7 лет назад +4

    MPTL i just Empire at War cancer, i'm still having nightmares....

  • @daidax_2389
    @daidax_2389 6 лет назад

    i think everyone knew who the winner was gonna be as soon as he explained which vehicles he was gonna pit against each other.

  • @alexmauney9705
    @alexmauney9705 7 лет назад +18

    How is the MPTL so low? It obliterates anything it gets sight on in EaW.

    • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
      @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 лет назад +8

      Alex Mauney it actually has a range of 120 km. And it fires guided munitions,which is pretty rad by MRLS standarts. I wouldn't be surprised if it could fire specialised ammo like ATGM's or AA rockets,or it could hit multiple targets in the same volley

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 7 лет назад +5

      Well, that's a bit surprising, because in this list MPTL is most realistic - artillery need spotters, communications and change positions after few volleys to avoid destruction due to enemy response. Others are just bigger guns on standard chassis (Defoliator an AT-IC) or self propelled fortress (SPHA)

    • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
      @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 лет назад

      Kuba Król Republic has AV7,which were used in the Clone wars toon. They would make much better artillery piece for this list. AI-IC is like a Surmtiger,superheavy assault gun used for attacking bunker lines and not lobbing enemy from afar

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 7 лет назад

      Василий Данилов AT-IC is rather mashup of Archer (Valentine with 17 pounder AT gun) and so-called Flakbus with 88mm AA gun - mediocre in both roles (gun is IMO too powerful and cumbersome for shooting CAS and has too much limited firing arc for land targets). About superiority of AV-7 over SPHA I wrote in my other comment

    • @chrissonofpear3657
      @chrissonofpear3657 7 лет назад +3

      Nice to seem some more of the Rebel's heavy weaponry, even if it's rarer.

  • @Shisanon
    @Shisanon 6 лет назад +1

    The CIS had a variation of the AAT simply called the HAG, which served as an indirect fire support/artillery role. I think it would preform better over all in a versatile role rather than what you suggested

  • @johnpeterson6347
    @johnpeterson6347 7 лет назад +33

    Can I get a yeet for the clones

    • @johnpeterson6347
      @johnpeterson6347 7 лет назад +2

      EckhartsLadder is the best

    • @skaterboy3421
      @skaterboy3421 7 лет назад

      John Peterson what about a watch out for those wrist rockets for the clones

    • @johnpeterson6347
      @johnpeterson6347 7 лет назад

      That too. LMAO

    • @orion9026
      @orion9026 7 лет назад +1

      This bitch empty, *Y E E T*

    • @MonkeyJedi99
      @MonkeyJedi99 5 лет назад

      Yeet needs to die. It is an affront to all users of real language.

  • @ethankeefin6183
    @ethankeefin6183 5 лет назад +1

    Eckhartsladder is my favorite star wars RUclipsr I'm legit a big fan of halo and star wars I have all the video games of star wars almost all I bought it off steam lol 1000$ worth it I got all the games and there some impreal secret weapons there is only one Ik called the star destroyer gravity well ship is degisn in star wars rebles only its a good ship it can pull out a ship in hyperspace and it was being bullied in the Republic at the end of the war

  • @Jack-ck4vi
    @Jack-ck4vi 7 лет назад +3

    Venator vs secutor

  • @Alpharius93
    @Alpharius93 7 лет назад

    Yay!! Been hoping for this one for a while now! Love your videos Eck!!! :)

  • @cynemund8213
    @cynemund8213 7 лет назад +4

    Why did you use the AT-IC and not the SPMA walker for the Empire?

  • @shadows_assassin3131
    @shadows_assassin3131 6 лет назад

    "I high vantage point" *flashbacks to Obi Wan "Its over Anakin, I have the highground!"*

  • @raxos787
    @raxos787 7 лет назад +9

    PEW PEW

  • @Greekgamer-fy6ix
    @Greekgamer-fy6ix 7 лет назад

    Love this series keep it up