Avatar Reincarnation THEORY [Avatar: The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra]
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024
- VOTE FOR YOUR FAVOURITE DESIGN HERE: docs.google.co....
My SECOND CHANNEL can be found via a link on my main page or at 'TwotheFuture'. Come join us!
Patreon: / hellofutureme
Email fanart/fanmail: hellofuturemeyt@gmail.com
Chapter One of 'A Little Village East of Here': www.wattpad.co....
Chapter One of 'Letters to Saint Jerome': www.wattpad.co....
Twitter: / timhickson1
Facebook: / hellofutureme
IF YOU WANT TO SEND THINGS TO ME (address):
Tim Hickson
PO Box 69062
Lincoln, 7608
Canterbury, New Zealand
SUBFURY ART COMPETITION: Thank you to everyone who entered! I will try and announce the finalists sometime at the start of next week. Love you all.
I am so excited to see what you guys have made :D Thanks for watching subfuries.
![What if the Avatar was evil? [ The Last Airbender l Legend of Korra ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wA4QvJISA54/mqdefault.jpg)
![What if the Avatar was evil? [ The Last Airbender l Legend of Korra ]](/img/tr.png)
![Do humans reincarnate in Avatar: The Last Airbender? Speculation [ATLA Lore l Legend of Korra]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pGtKyijTt8k/mqdefault.jpg)
![How Appa Died THEORY [Avatar the Last Airbender/Legend of Korra]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_gXaq4aepcQ/mqdefault.jpg)
VOTE FOR THE SHIRT DESIGN YOU WOULD WANT: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd4GjNVM-_4vekcgbVqyReeFPLaDMfpR4ZEXHoG_bFRvSC73g/viewform And if you were to reincarnate into an animal, what would you want to be, fictional or otherwise, and why? Stay nerdy and stay kind! You guys are awesome.
~ Tim
Hello Future Me all hail mishka
Hello Future Me number 3 and 2 cant dicide
Hello Future Me can you please talk about the Rumblehorn in the room and talk about all the things we learned from the new season of dragons please
Hello Future Me why am i up so early
Hello Future Me
An animal... I would like to fly like an eagle! ^^
Also, I just noticed that you actually used my art as your profile picture. Do you have any idea how loud I screamed when I realized that!? Thank you, SO much. A million times-- I'm honoured to be one of the many Subfuries that bow under Lord Mishka! It's just... is it okay that you leave a link to my DevianArt page? I have a second- slightly differet design there and I'm afraid if I was to be the one who send the link then people would think I was lying... is... that okay?
For real though, if Kyoshi was the avatar during Sozin's conquest, the hundred year war wouldn't have even lasted a year. 😂
APTos45 she would of killed him the second it was brought up
Truth
Damn kyoshi is so strong af
News alert fire lord sozin is going to attack the air noman one moment later
Kyoshi:Omayiwa Bushindiro
Sozin:Nani
The 5 minutes war is finished
APTos45 you mean a minute
personally, I believe the theory that when an avatar dies they become what they most longed to be e.g Aang rejected his avatar side and felt guilty so Korra, his next life, fully stepped into the role of the avatar as a blessing.
Sam Gallant me too
That would be neat, and imply some things about Roku too. That Roku wanted to be someone firm in their beliefs, but also to not lose his reluctance to kill (something he seemed to _think_ he wanted gone).
Totally Nameless Because Kiyoshi wouldn’t kill General Chao
Also Kuruk did hardly anything as avatar and died super young. The next avatar, Kiyoshi, did everything she could as avatar and lived to be over 200 years old.
@@vision-dz6cm Kuruk also lost the one woman he cared about, the next three Avatars all had prosperous marriages and had kids.
Oh my god. I just realized something. When Aang goes into the avatar state, it gives him the power/help of his past lives. That means when he ran away and went into the avatar state, Avatar Roku’s spirit froze him in ice since he knew that Sozin and his army was coming!
Oh shit. You're right. That checks out! Good find!
I don’t think the past avatars necessarily haven’t agree that the avatar state is necessary. Remember when those earthbenders thought Aang should just fight in the avatar state, and he went in to the avatar state, and then Roku was all like “it’s time you learned” and he told Aang about how the avatar state works
Legend of Korra retconned that and now it's just a standard Spirit Power up. Thanks Season 2
@@lonebattledroid4474 that definitely was a big downside of korra. They took the spirits, who are supposed to have a natural feel, and they took that whole natural feel, threw it out the window, and said “LaZerS”. Before that the spirits were mysterious, their power wasn’t something they could shoot out their bodies, but it was the natural things they controlled. I also didn’t like how Raava was allowed to roam free while Vaatu was locked up. It distracts from the whole balance thing of it all. Why is Raava allowed to roam while Vaatu isn’t? Too much good, too much order, ISNT good. That’s why the red lotus wanted to change everything to disorder. There was too much light, and no room for the dark. And dark is usually what leads to the light. There can’t be any peace without both good and bad, cause otherwise there is no balance. Sorry for the rant TLOK season 2 gives me many mixed feelings. But overall it was still a great show in my eyes, even though it wasn’t as good as ATLA
@@sillychotu I don't think evil is necessary for peace. I mean it would be like allowing Ozai to do his thing for balance and the Story of Avatar is about a battle of good vs evil. I think Chaos is important since it allows nature to flourish. If they still wanted to make Raava good and Vaatu evil they could've made Raava the spirit of the Earth and Vaatu was a dark reflection of her negative thoughts and emotions.
Fun fact: the current Dhali lama is named Tenzin Gyatso. The guardian and father figure to aang was named Gyatso, and Aang’s son is named Tenzin :)
uh
Konietzko and DiMartino knew what they were doing.
@@Pantherblack tenzin and gyatso are both common Tibetan names but its more probably that they read Dalai lamas Wikipedia article lol. Isn't it surprised that he's only the 14th!
@@theparrot6516 I-.
In 2005? I mean I am not saying you are a liar but did the page even exist then? Wikipedia was also at best a year old.
I agree with Seve, maybe they just know what they are doing lmao.
@@twenty-fifth420 Wikipedia started in 2001
Also his article was created in 2003 en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=14th_Dalai_Lama&oldid=757562
Now i want to see a story about some random bender who happens to grab the right toys
Definitely possible, I guess they would just eventually find out that they can’t actually bend all the elements but this other random kid can
Their fate decided by a TOY they've choose
That would be funny, but that's only one of many tests and obviously they would discover pretty quickly that they weren't the avatar.
I'd totally love to see an "Avatar" who is friends with the real Avatar, and wants to be famous and the real one doesn't. So they agree to help the fake Avatar fool everyone. The real Avatar gets to help people and not have to deal with people, and the fake Avatar gets the glory and fame but also helps the real Avatar train, learn, and cope with the pressure.
I think it could be a cute story for a 1st season of a show and in the finale for the 1st season his secret is let out. Maybe they think they defeat the big bad, and then at the last second while they celebrate he jumps back up (classic bad guy move...) and the real Avatar steps up and saves everyone in plain view!
It could be a Avatar/Smallville hybrid where the main character tries to save people and keep a secret at the same time!
@@DanteYewToob Isn't this the plot of Sharktale?
@@cries_and_dies Dunno, what is that?
More like Fire, Air, Water and Earth since the first avatar was technically a fire bender first
But fucking magnets, how do they work?
@@basslightyeah As a physicist I can tell you how magnets work: Magic! They are pure magic!
Thats the order Wan got them in too.
Adam Bah You’re*
Earth, Fire, Wind and Water. The order you get adepts in Golden Sun.
I think all spirits reincarnates. Just Raava hitches a ride to the next body. I know Raava keeps the avatar from reincarnating into anything but human to better relate and be the bridge as Avatar Yangchen explains.
I also believe that avatars subconsciously over compensate for the past avatar's sort comings or regrets.
Korra is over enthusiastic and bold to make up for Aang's too Methodical ways. Aang is Methodical to make up for Roku's indecisiveness. Roku is indecisive to not be as brash as Kyoshi. Kyoshi is straight to the point and no nonsense to make to make up for Kuruk's arrogance and too laid back ways. Kuruk is laid back and arrogant to compensate for the fact Yangchen was too diligent as a avatar, she chose enlightenment over humanity she had nothing to tether herself to humans and she could not relate to them to be a proper bridge.
David Gilbert wow, that actually makes a lot of sense! Never noticed that trend till now :o mind=blown which makes me wonder if there's ever been avatars with the exact same personality. It seems cyclical
Well said. Plus I think in some ways they all represent part's of the first Avatars personalities.
Origami Tesseract hsj
this seems like your on to something
Origami Tesseract Ooh, now that's one interesting headcanon you got there. What do you think the Avatar following Korra will try to compensate for?
When Raava says “I will be with you for all your lifetimes”, it’s implied that Waang would have reincarnated without Raava anyway. This agrees with Buddhist spirituality, as everyone (not just the Dalai Lama or bodhisattva) reincarnates. Perhaps Raava just carries the ability to bend all four elements and the morality alongside Waang’s “spark of life” traveling from body to body.
Wan*
I disagree. If that were true, Korra wouldn't have been able to Airbend after she and Raava got separated. We see her Airbend to get inside the Tree of Time. And that was when Tenzin showed her the tree after losing Raava.
K-Rhynn Cyrhyss Wan learned the four elements without Raava, so I agree. The lion turtles energy-bent him into being able to control them. I believe everyone has the capacity to bend, just like in Star Wars everyone is technically force-sensitive (look up midichlorians if you’re interested, might be spelled wrong). Iroh adapted many techniques from other bending arts. You can see him adopt earth ending stances and even use waterbending techniques to perfect lightning bending and redirection.
First of all: thank you, not enough people make the connection that reincarnation already happens for every creature.
But I think that what differentiates normal mortal reincarnation from the Avatar is the memories--everyone reincarnates, but only the Avatar gets to pull up their memories and even personality from previous lives, thanks to Raava. She was the one unbroken thread between lives and when Vaatu broke that thread, the connection to the past was lost.
Whos Waang? I only know Wan
I always assumed that each individual avatar was defined by there experiences, so each avatar is different because they never have the same experiences but able to have the knowledge and wisdom of there past lives
That is what was said in one of the episodea
Random theory on that: to go with the idea that the bending ability comes from the human half of the spirit and the knowledge/memories comes from the Raava half, perhaps the avatar state is basically the wall between the two being removed, thus the Avatar having access to all the bending power and knowledge, therefore dying in this state damages or even outright kills Raava's half of the spirit since it is most human at this time. Basically the Raava half of the spirit is most exposed and therefore vulnerable during the Avatar State. So much so that it can be harmed or destroyed. Another way of looking at it is that in the Avatar State the human gets more access to Raava's godliness, but Raava shares the human's vulnerability... If that makes sense.
Good point if let's say kuruk and yangchen had the exact same experience only this sercomstance
Remember when Zuko was practicing lightning but exploded in front of him? Was that a kind of combustion bending?
That's what ALL of firebending is. What do you think fire is?
I believe they're referring to the bending practiced by Combustion Man and the one chick from the Red Lotus. With the forehead tattoo and no arm movement. I always thought of it as a style of firebending inspired by airbenders, like how redirecting lightning is inspired by waterbenders. Hope this clears stuff up. :)
Nope. The way i understood combustion bending is that it's super compressed heat that rapidly expands. Note how combustion benders contract their stomach (where the fire chakra is located) before they shoot out explosive projectiles. So it's like super focused and compressed firebending. What Zuko did was basically just a failed attempt of lightning bending, since he didn't have any peace of mind.
@Katie nope i don't think it is. I think it's just tattoo to mark their light chakra. Just like how master airbenders tattoo themselves. I think combustion bending is a highly specialized art performed only by a select few who's been passing this technique on. I believe any fire bender can perform this, I'm just not sure about the details if some firebenders have more potential than others to learn. That's just my take tho and it's what make sense to me. Your theory might be right.
@Katie oohh i was not aware of that info
Woah avatar videos in 2017 !? Awesome
Forever and always!
~ Tim
Gumer Zambrano it's weird I finished the last season a couple weeks ago and now I'm seeing videos about it....and I'm glad
Gumer Zambrano they're everywhere...even reactions
Gumer Zambrano lol there are still novels
Gumer Zambrano ikr xD lol
I always assumed they were for the most part the same person but were changed via their upbringing. Aang was raised as a monk so he is more peace loving and pacifistic.
While korra found out she was the avatar at a younger age and was raised to be a bit more free-willed.
And their bending talents varied due to that in some ways. Aang was an air bender raised to be peace loving so bending like water and air came naturally to him. They are built on moving with the element rather then forcing it. While earth which requires a bit more stubbornness was harder and fire which was believed to require Fury and control was also hard for him. Also him hurting Katara resulted in him developing a fear if it.
Where as korra was a little bit more less structured. She was allowed to develop a somewhat more selfish personality that allowed her to be a little more stubborn and proud, which gave her the willingness to embrace what it takes to bend other elements. That stubbornness also made it difficult for her to air bend because that element is essentially the antithesis of stubbornness and Pride.
Yes but, if they're all the same personne with only just differents logiciels, how is it possible that Aang can talk to Roku, and even Korra ? He is just talking to himself all the time ? It is not clearly explain in the shows.
You have to wonder how weird it must have been to be the first Avatar after Wan. Like, Wan died alone from what we saw and even if he didn't, we don't know if anyone else could have heard what Raava said to him, so I doubt anyone knew about the fact that there would be a reincarnation at that point. Which meant you presumably just had this little air nomad kid who was just growing up completely normal...until they just suddenly started bending water.
Hopefully one of those Avatar verse projects will be a movie on that 😄
That would be really funny because like yeah this other guy did this there must be a connection
Raava is not goodness and peace. She is Light and Order. Good and Evil have nothing to do with the spirits of Light and Dark. We might favor the Light but the Dark has it's appeal as well.
There's too many of them Master Skywalker. What are we going to do?
@@ZyRo_GraVitY Well it is not like Raava and Vaatu are Jedi and Sith. We do not really know what Vaatu's goal is in the series beyond vague hints and we do know that all Raava wants is to keep things forever static and unchanging. She is boring on her own!
Plus there’s the koi fish that represented the balance of nature twi & la or yin and yang
@@Wizardjunior77 Since evil is nothing more than a perversion of good it can not be an opposite to evil. No matter what wording you use.
It's like yin and yan
If you cut off a gecko's tail, it will grow back. Maybe a soul, when severed from the body, will eventually grow a new body.
As for being able to talk to a past self, I got nothing.
how I see it is raava carries the past memories and personalities so that side can be expressed and like isolated on its own when they want to communicate with it
Light can not exist without the darkness so even when Rava was killed she existed in Vatu
@@luvcherry : Yes but it's strange ... Actual avatar talking to his pasts lives, sounds like some kind of schizophreny.
@ANNABELL CANNON yeah it was bit if it gets the idea across then its good
It could just be their memories of the past life personified as the past life
I think the avatar personalities are so different because the avatar becomes/is who the world needs at that time.
AspiringZebra This is exactly what I think!
I disagree. Roku was definitely not the Avatar that the world needed in his day- he hesitated. The world needed an Avatar who wouldn’t.
I think the core of the avatar’s is someone who’s brave and selfless. The individual personalities develop as a result of upbringing and genetics. When someone is being reborn the soul is transferred. That doesn’t mean personalities travel with it. The avatars are one soul reborn. They’re not related to each other in the physical sense.
I share the same thought
I don't think they have a core.
One of the beautiful things about Avatar is that despite them most likely having a destiny they need to forfill they don't nessesarily have to follow the "simple" path to that destiny.
Them having their own personality and believes is what seperates them and makes them more suited to the world they live in not the other way around. They are molted by how the world is through their own experiences and can thereby mold the world in they way they see fit.
The destiny is like the clouds. They might not be able to remove them completly but they it can be changed and "bent" to their will.
They have their own free will and that means that they can fail but it also means they can change the world in ways no one else could have ever expected or created without it.
I doubt the world would have been that peaceful had Aang actually killed the old firelord because even more of his believers would see him as nothing more than a martyr for them and they would have been even more forceful. Despite all the other Avatar's disagreeing Aang went with his believes and the Firelord wasnt killed.
He didn't get a chance to become a Martyr who was fighting the amazing evil Avatar who killed him in cold blood with his overwhelming force! (Cough cough kyoshi cough)
No he was nothing more than the weak wanna be king that got defeated and lost to the Avatar.
They aren't changed to force history in a specific way..history is changed thanks to them.
The soul in the Buddhism can be explained easily by comparing your soul to a river.
The river will always have the same name even though it's new water that runs through it.
Your soul will always be you but you will change with new experiences/water. In fact you're different now than you were when you clicked on this video.
That's why the avatar always is different, because they are the same but not. The person Korea was as Aang is a completely different person but at the same time not.
I think it's Korra's connection to Rava that makes her capable of remembering specific things from Aang's personal life. She doesn't have his memories because she not him but things like his childhood toys and love for playing stayed with her because that was a core part of who the avatar is.
Ida Thomsson That's interesting, then what about when Korra severed her connection to previous avatars? Is she still connected to them in a way?
Probably. It's most likely it's just that the bond that made her able to communicate with her past lives unlike anyone else the atla world was broken.
Thanks for explaining this! I spent a whole lot of time reading up on the mindstream, phowa, and so on - but I just couldn't figure out how to put it simply. Great explanation!
- Tim
*The person _Korea_ was as Aang is a completely different person but at the same time not. *
Hello Future Me Thank you! I think I've actually heard somewhere that the river explanation was something the Buddha used to explain it.
( but isn't like 70% of all quotes not told by the ppl we think said them, then that number would be higher in religion since the Buddhism's holy scriptures were written by all of his closest follower AFTER his death. The bible was written more than hundreds of years after Jesus is supposed to have died so it shouldn't really be seen as containing facts at all.
the prophet Muhammed may have been the one to write down what god told him but he couldn't write and it was his wife who wrote everything he retold down to the Koran. The human mind shouldn't possibly be able to retell so much information as it actually was even with so little time between hearing and writing down.
I'm sorry if all of that offended anyone. I'm absolutely not trying to offend someone who believes in these scriptures/books. I was just trying to look at it through a scientific point of view. If you believe in the texts then if nothing else it should make you who believe in them be even more in awe because that might mean some godly power helped the scriptures be made correctly because it knew we could do it in our own.
As for the version of Buddhism that doesn't believe buddha is a god, it shouldn't matter if the scriptures aren't one hundred percent accurate. They were only supposed to be more like guidelines anyway and he wanted us to find out the meaning in our own. Like he said, it's up to each one of us to find our own way to stop reincarnate and no one can do it for us , not even him so we simply have to appreciate what the texts do teach us and work from there.)
same soul, different body and upbringing... seems pretty simple to me
Like having a half dozen D20 and just re-rolling them.
Every roll gets a different stat spread--or in this case, personality spread.
It’s not that simple
Pretty much
@@lonebattledroid4474 I think it’s different but that’s my opinion
If the Spirit is Rava & Wan combined than that means all avatars inherit playful and helpful nature of Wang's personality. And that means Kyoshi was once also young, playful careless. which makes us speculate what made her to change and become scary & intimidating.
Yes, Avatar Kyoshi series would rock. (bt only by original creators)
how many people do I have to explain this to? IT'S WAN NOT WANG
Your wish has been answered. There's a novel about kyoshi called the rise of kyoshi. And your predictions were right kyoshi was a playful girl in her youth who was always bullied and never fought back even though she was larger than the kids bullying her before she knew she was the avatar. Because of her experiences travelling the chaotic earth kingdom as part of a bandit gang she became the kyoshi we saw in atla.
Rava is actually spelled Raava it's Japanese i didn't know this until I looked up Raava
I think Avatar reincarnation is more like a chain adding new links to itself, rather than a piece of clay being reshaped.
THIS!
Thank you.
"Spurit"
Aang most challenging element was actually earth he was was actually good at fire bending in part 1 since it was a plot point that he got cocky and burnt Katara he got scared of it. On another point I think that each Avatar had an element that they had challenge with since it goes against how they natural are like aang and earth bending since it mostly rigid and goes against his instinct as a airbending prodigy and Korra with air since air takes patience which she lacked
Aangs not good at earth or fire if you thinck do it’s okay don’t want to insulte you but
@@jadenchamoun6785 except your wrong Jadrn
@@jadenchamoun6785 but... he is? Just because he's afraid/unwilling to use fire does no undermine his talent. He picked up fire almost as fast as water. The whole episode revolved around how just because Aang is good at using fire does not mean he can control it. Basically he can bend it just fine, its more of a psychological issue with his mentality.
@@alzhanvoidand plus, aang was a prodigy. Not only were water and fire more similar to air, but once he got past the mental barrier, he advanced fast
Korra recognized Toph when meeting her for the first time, you can tell she remembered Toph from Aang's lifetime from the way she spoke to her.
Toph is famous guys like Bolin knew about her
Everybody knew who toph was
LOK ruined the authenticity and synchronization of ATLAs rhythm of how everything flows.
2:10-2:17 turn on the subtitles
ty
Did you see the ending😂😂 11:25
Basically RANDOM Animations okay thanks
The UltimateDestroyer np
Hurricane Sam yeah it was good
It's been proven multiple times that avatars cycle with previous regrets,
For example Kyoshi protecting her loved ones the most and being serious about her role as the avatar, which are based on regrets from her previous life, Kuruk, which was laid back, went with the flow, and eventually lost his Loved one, and also died at a young age.
From the information we currently have it's just speculations to know if Every single creature / human reincarnates, although we have seen people like Iroh and Admiral Zhao which spent time in the Spirit world instead of a new mortal body, which CAN be explained since Zhao did have a fight with the literal Ocean spirit La, so she may have done something with him, and Iroh is very connected to the ghosts so it's also a possibility that he was able to get his Spirit out of his body, but that's just speculation.
I just love this channel so much. And can I just say how much I appreciate you. Cause honestly this is the only channel I really know of who even still talks about Avatar! Just 10/10. Great content always
Nawww this was such a nice message to read. I'm so happy you like my content and hope I can keep up the standard :) Thanks for sticking by me.
~ Tim
What if each avatar life is just an experience with action, memories and skills
So each avatar is the same spirit put back to an almost blank sheet
When Korra was separated from Raava it was unclear whether she retained the ability to bend all four elements. In her ensuing fight with Unavaatu she only did waterbending, which is her birth element. I would say that Raava helped carry the ability to bend more than one element with her so giant blue-spirit Korra was only seen to be waterbending against Unavaatu. So it is likely that through the reincarnation Raava ensures that each avatar will be able to bend all four elements with her help.
I think Raava is actually a hive of spirits, we see on "The last airbender" that it is incredible difficult to bend different types of elements at the same time. "To bend the stubborn element you have to impose yourself, be like a rock". I think the avatar learn all the elements but cannot bend them together all at once, he can only do that in the avatar state because his past lifes are thinking like a waterbender, or firebender and so on.
@Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem determination = the drive to do something/ Stubbornness= The unwillingness to change
I thinks its noticably different
makes no sense, wan bent all four while being the first
In beginnings part 2 while fending off the humans and spirits from fighting each other, avatar wan was able to bend all 4 elements but he was not glowing like he was in the avatar state
@@jaytheamazing197 he was not glowing because he hadn't fused with Raava permanently then.
but then again maybe not. since won the first avatar could bend all four at once in the avatar state bc of Raava. But you're right, the past lives do work but dont forget that Raava's spirit powers the avatar state in the first place. So the knowledge and power of the avatar state is both caused by their past reincarnations AND Raava's spirit
But didn't LoK say that when Wan was first gaining the ability to bend all the elements that the strain of bending more than one could kill him? And Raavah used her energy to 'protect him' from that strain until he could do it without her. Now, there's no reason to think that Raavah wouldn't continue to serve that purpose with later incarnations. Rather than the different types of bending being something they have to go discover it's now something that they inherently have, but I imagine that there is still some strain on them while they learn mastery over those styles.
Raavah could be just a layer of protection for the avatar so that they maintain the capacity to balance the world. Heck Raavah could be part of how Kora survived being poisoned.
Maybe it wouldn't have killed Wan right away?
LOK ruined ATLA lore and authenticity
QUESTION: Why does the Avatar cycle end when the Avatar is killed in the Avatar state? Something to do with the connection between Rava and the Avatar being permanently broken? Or is Rava destroyed?
Well, if Wan and Raava together make up the Avatar Spirit, then I assume killing the Avatar in the Avatar State severs that bond of human spirit/ancient spirit.
If the Avatar is two spirits as one, then killing one makes it no longer the Avatar spirit. Even if the human spirit reincarnates, it wouldn't have Raava to link it to the other Avatars, effectively ending the cycle.
Player9 so in this theory, technically the avatar can still be reborn. It would just be a new cycle? I think this would he a great third animation series
@@untapped8776 Do you say that Aang and all the other Avatars isnt dead?
@@wintergreen1104 I mean, they're all still in the Spirit World, so yea, none of them are "dead." It just means all future Avatars could only commune as far back as Korra.
@@untapped8776 So the future Avatars can't connect with Aang and the past Avatars? But they can meet them in the sprit world like Korra did with Iroh?
(*Thank you for the fast answer.)
'You sadistic half-cabbage' oh my word you are hilarious
Your theory is interesting. I've always imagined that in a world where reincarnation exists, everyone reincarnates (which I see you have a video on, I haven't watched it yet.) and my theory about the Avatar is that rather than having past lives in the traditional sense that everyone else does, the Avatar is, well, an Avatar for other souls. Each Avatar is a new soul, a new person, a new being, added to the amalgamation, and once you're an avatar you are taken OUT of the reincarnation cycle and instead join the other souls who basically linger around for the next Avatar to access. If Avatar Roku, or Aang, or Kyoshi were reborn, they couldn't keep in contact with Korra, and thus their power couldn't help her. So basically I always thought that the Avatar was the only being to NOT be reborn, but instead, once you die as the Avatar, you stay dead and join this... legion... of past avatars... if that makes any sense... I think what really sparked this idea was the part about "if you die in the avatar state, you die permanently." Before learning about Raava, it made sense in that if they kill you in the avatar state, they're killing every soul at once.
Yes because, if the Avatar was always the same each time, but reincarneted ... It would be some kind of schizophreny if he was able to talk to him, but in the past.
In the closed captions, Wan is "one" and Aang is "egg".
Ah yes, my favorite avatar, *E G G*
Ever noticed that every Avatar dates a Woman. Maybe that’s carried over.
We don't know if Aang, Roku, and so on were attracted to men
@@ZoruaHunter Both of them Married Woman.
@@TheHolyTreeMan. and Bi/Pan people exist
@@Angel-gs6dp I am aware I was just trying to point something out.
@@TheHolyTreeMan. I'm dumb, I just got what you meant
I know how you feel Tim. I just can't imagine having time to do all the research for the videos in the midst of all your school work. Keep up the good work.
A simple way way of explaining the difference between the Buddhist concept of a soul a and the western or "Christian" concept uses two of the elements.
The Christian soul, or immortal aspect of an individual, can be represented by water. It fills its mortal vessel ( a vase). If the vase were to break, the water would escape, evaporate and float into the sky. The internal substance of that vase, is the water, without it, it is just a shell. If a Christian soul were to reincarnate, the same substance would be poured into another vessel.
The Buddhist soul is a flame. When you pass a flame from one candle to another, the flame moves on to the new wick. Then the flame changes to suit the candle. If it was passed onto a sparkler, it would sparkle, if it was passed to a giant Olympic torch, it would roar up into the sky.
Like Aang and Zuko with the sun warriors. They both took flames from the fire gifted to the warriors by dragons, but they presented Ran and Shaw with two very different flames. (Well they would have if they didn't start bickering.)
Michael Vaughan Hi I made a new Korra AMV I hope you like it! 🤗❤️
I thought buddhist don’t believe in souls? Like anatta or something.
Now do a video about the Cabbage Merchant and where he keep getting more cabbages and carts when it keep getting destroyed.
#Mycabbages
Done.
Korra recognized the teapot cuz she saw it while in her coma.
My personal theory about how the current Avatar can speak to previous Avatars is that Raava maintains a direct connection to the spirits of previous Avatars, think of it as like speed dialing, rather than Raava housing their personalities and memories and beliefs inside her and when Unalaq “kills” Raava he severed the link instead of destroying all the spirits of past Avatars, kinda reaching with this theory but I like the thought that instead of all the past Avatars are forever gone now an Avatar has to go into spirit form to find one of their past lives and maybe is guided to them by the spirit of an Avatars animal guide.
Plz get your degree. Its more important than youtube.
But... but... Avatar!
~ Tim
This video is about 4 days old and funnily enough I've been procrastinating from my school duties for about that much time. With Avatar related stuff, of course.
What are you getting your degree on? I missed it.
I'm a law student with a dash of arts on the side.
~ Tim
Evers Humor right
I would reincarnate as a Time Lord so I can reincarnate 12 more times before I need to worry about it again
Even the Doctor changes personality between regenerations.
Sarah Andrea Royce
You didn't pay attention, it's the spark of life that counts.
Fantastic, just hope the Time Lords grant you another cycle
It's regeneration, not reincarnation.
Actually the doctor reincarnated more than 12 times so if you can break the rule, you’re unstoppable
It is my belief that you are making this more complex than it needs to be, however, there are many things in this video that you got right. The Avatar spirit can be similarly compared to the idea of yin and yang. Both subjects are independent, but, also the same. When Wan fused with Raava, it became impossible for him to truly die. In the Avatar world, death is not when the soul leaves the body, but when the soul moves on to the afterlife. With this definition, the idea of meditating in order to send your soul into the spirit world, the reincarnation cycle, and the Avatar spirit as a whole immediately start to come together with few, if any, contradictions. Raava does not die for two reasons: she is a spirit that has no mortal form to begin with, and she is quite literally light itself. This is why the Avatar reincarnates while other people die, because Raava's light spirit cannot die, making the Avatar spirit, the combination of Raava and a human soul, immortal, as you stated in your video. But, what explains how the Avatar's memories are passed on and not their personalities is the human aspect of the Avatar spirit. Raava is light so it is not as if she changes when her "form" gets destroyed, but the Avatar does, because with each new Avatar comes a new physical body with its own set of genes that differentiate it from other humans, however slightly that difference is. To summarize, to ask why each Avatar is not the same would be the same as asking why each Avatar does not look the same. Each Avatar has their own brain, their own body, their own being that gets added to the essence of what the Avatar is; and with each Avatar comes another person with their own knowledge, experiences, and spiritual energy that gets added to the Avatar spirit when the Avatar goes into the Avatar state.
That makes sense!! :D
I really love your explanation! I feel I didn't state what I meant as clearly as I could have in the video, because I actually agree with pretty much everything you say - especially on the point of why the knowledge/experience/energy of previous avatars is added to the Avatar Spirit. Great thoughts.
~ Tim
The only thing that adds to the avatar spirit is the knowledge and experience of previous avatars. The spiritual energy is the same because they're all Wan. The avatar state is Raava's power flowing trough the avatar's body. Roku was wrong about the avatar state.
The differences between Wan's lives come from the fact that he reincarnated in a different body, with different parents, culture an all the other aspects that form a person's personality.
(Sorry about my writing, I'm from Brazil and I'm still learning)
TY_rod I have a question. It was said in ATLA that if the avatar died in the avatar state, then the avatar cycle would end. Does that mean that Ravaa dies? I know that we've already said that Ravaa cannot die, but how would the avatar cycle end? Is it the link between Ravaa and a mortal being destroyed?
Ethan Cha
Ethan Cha
This is my theory but no. As you’ve said we’ve established Raava can’t die. Remember she lived for thousands of years before Wan, always wrestling with Vatuu. My guess is the Avatar cycle ends if killed in the Avatar state because of the vulnerability of the soul. As exhibited when Roku and Wan died, Raava was simply reincarnated into another human. In the Avatar state I think it would expose the soul and Raavas since the Avatar is more spirit than human at that point, thus losing connection with one another. Remember Wan separates her and Vatuu so my guess is if an Avatar gets killed in the Avatar state it’s similar - Raava is severed from the soul. This is kind of displayed in Korra when Raava and Korra get separated at the end of Season 2.
When the Avatar is just in their “human” state they’re just like everyone else (besides for the bending) and can die just as easily as normal people. The Avatar state is more spirit than human, because the Avatar is having to draw on their past lives via Raava. Since they’re having to use Raava to do that, it would make sense to me if the soul dies she would be separate permanently.
What's with the music that totally blocks you out I get it every video
Probably copyright strike avoidance
Put subtitles on for that part
But my question is the Avatar the only one to reincarnate in the series? Does everyone reincarnate?
To the top, I also confused
He made a video about that. Don't know how old it is though.
No.
I personally have a theory that everyone reincarnates but only the avatar is really able to communicate with their past lives via Raava. With everyone else, it'd be kind of like our world and how there are cultures with Hinduism/Buddhism beliefs regarding the concept. Some may reincarnate as humans, others maybe animals, but unless they're super spiritual (maybe someone like Iroh who could see spirits in the physical world) they could have dreams or vague memories but nothing that could completely mean it's from a past life. But again that's just my theory.
My personal theory about this is only Raava can reincarnate and the Avatars that Aang talks to are Raava's memories of those Avatars.
Ok check it, here is my theory... The lion turtle gave wan the ability to bend but..... he also said Rava will hold it as well, until he masters the element. Bending is not spiritual magic, or what nation you are from. Its your spirit using your body's energy to control the elements. It is like the lion turtle said, "before the era of the avatar. we bended the elements with the energy within ourselves" (prob not exact but idc). So with that, remember we are a soul with a body, not a body with a soul. Everything has a spirit which include animals and humans. The spirit can bend as a way to communicate to the earth and its material. Kinda like a video game.... The user (spirit) knows how to play the game but the body (controller) is how we control the elements. The body is the tool. Which is why you cant bend in the spirit world as a spirit. The lion turtles gave the abilities to Wan's spirit. When we die we as humans, ascend to the after life. But Rava does not die. Even she said it herself. She can not kill Vatu anymore then he can kill her. So fusing her to Wan's body took away Wan's ability to go to the afterlife becoming a new spirit. He is immortal in a way as well. But hes normal human spirit is meant to harbor a body. His physical body dies but his spirit (which is now rava and wan as one spirit) but can not past away. Which means the very second he "dies", he continues life but not his mortal body. Which mean to us, starts life over again. But now in a new person with a new conscious. Hint Avatar: "a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher".
Now the different lives communicating with each other are basically different conscious personalities in the same spirit. Even though you are the same person.... you have a new body. That means the DNA is different because of your parents. So you cant have the same memories. Your new body has a new brain with nothing in it. Unless you, as a conscious physical person, tap into your immortal spirit and talk to yourself from a previous life. So basically the avatars are scenes to Wan's spiritual existence. And when in the avatar state you gain the skills of all the avatars before you. So not necessarily power.... just skill. Because wan was the first avatar, had no help from previous avatars. Just power from Rava and the harmonic convergence.
So in a way, they are all really just Wan this whole time just acquired many names in the past 1000 yrs. So when the avatar dies in their standard form as Korra, or Aang, or Kyoshi, they are the embody of the spirit. But dying in the avatar state is bringing the original, fused spirit of Wan up into the physical body of Korra, or Aang (the embodied) and actually dying. Which breaks not only the cycle but the connection between Wan and Rava. Which means Wan actually passes away when Rava was stripped from Korra and "killed". Now Rava can not die but Wan can. Which is why Rava comes back to fuse again (adding the strength of harmonic convergence) So really their are two avatars (three adding Unalaq). And Korra becomes the new start of the avatar cycle.
It took a minutes to type this up because my first theory i thought of i debunked myself lol so i hope that makes sense because it was mad hard to explain in words.
Lawrenzo Green great theory! Mind = Blown
Lawrenzo Green I guess you can say that when Rava was ripped out of Korra and beaten that it was a game over for the Avatar. But not the end, just restarting the game. It's still the same soul/player, but all that experience that was acquired is gone. So Korra/Won is starting over from scratch. Which is sad. Aang and the other past Avatars are gone as far as we know. Cause they never get mentioned or brought up at all for the rest of the series after that.
thanks. it took a min to put this all down. even while i was typing it i was correcting myself. but thanks. it blew my mind as well. So i guess you can call Korra, the first avatar of a second generation of avatars. It would also be pretty cool if they started a series for the next avatar about connections. trying to connect to the past avatars but would have to travel to old temples and stuff to learn about them. we would learn about the avatars and lore in that universe. but thats just me lol.
Lawrenzo Green That sounds awesome!! I would be down to watch that. Give me some closure. Because I don't want Aang and the other past Avatars to be gone forever. And it would be great to get the stories of if not all but most of the past Avatars. If the creators can't get it signed on by a network then maybe webisodes could work or I will be cool with a series of graphic novels like they have been doing.
Raava gets ripped out of Korra and "killed" Wan's spirit, which is fused with Raava dies and the avatar loses it's previous consciousnesses from Wan to Aang and when Korra fuses with Raava she becomes the "new" avatar for the second avatar cycle just like Wan when he first fused with Raava, so she'll have to guide the next avatar with the knowledge she got from her past lives, so in a way Korra is both the last avatar and the first avatar (last of the previous, first of the new cycle). Now we also have the dark avatar aswell, we'll have to see what happens when he's reborn aswell, since as we all know Raava and Vaatu are the embodiments of Yin and Yang, they cannot die. I would really love to see this animated. In a way I don't like the thought of Korra being the new first avatar since her rashness has gotten her into trouble and if she advices the next avatar to be more like her than let's say Roku, it'll basically be us watching Korra 2.0 but in a different body doing what she does.
Reminder:
Do ATLA spirits reproduce
Daniel 83012468013579 in the comic book “The Search” a spirit is actually the mother of “ko the face sealer” so I’d say yeah.
Edgar Cortez doesn't necessarily mean birthed could mean she created him through magic spirit powers oooooooohhhhhhhhh
Daniel 83012468013579 a
Can an avatar be born to parents of two different nations.
*JIB * ye
I think an avatar can be born with two different nation parents because Maako and Bolin were born of a earth bender and fire bender.
I was saying that as an example. It is vague and they are not avatars but that is showing it is a possibility. I never heard them say in the show they have to be a pure nation to be a certain bender. I think if you are an earth bender you have to at least have an earth bender as a blood relative; such Tenzin being an air bender even though he has Katara as his mother.
Akbbba 1
That isn't even a confirmed thing.
If you are born an earth bender (as in born from an earth bender parent and got earth bending trait) than you are eligible for Avatar if the old Avatar died riiiight before you were born.
Okay that just sounds wierd..
I don't see it as nations but rather as benders...the avatar is born from benders of the same element the avatar is suposed to be. if per example the next avatar (earth) is born out of an earth bender mother it will not alter his father being a fire bender; he will still be an earth bender 'cause that's the first element he'd develop.
The question of “what incarnates” is a huge question in Buddhism, with an “official” answer that differs in interpretation from sect to sect.
LAW DEGREE!? I thought it would be mythology/history of some sort
A Dog he’s very intelligent. His ability to piece things together is perfect for a law degree
@Maxus Devasteitor Then go get a law degree
The reason why the Avatar reincarnation makes no sense between Legend of Korra and ATLA is that the concepts of what makes an avatar were retconned! Originally the Avatar was meant to be the Spirit of the World, that took a human shape in order to better sympathize with the humans living and all creatures and each life it experiences brought it closer to comprehending humanity and life, as a being, rather than a none corporal force. Which made sense with how each life is an amalgamation of the previous once and how each personality is different and even gender! Also each avatar could access their previous memory of any of their past lives, once they mastered the Avatar State, also made sense why the Avatar will die if killed in the Avatar form, as all the previous lives are channelling their power and knowledge in a single vessel, thus killing the Avatar kills all their past lives and all knowledge start from ground zero! Raava and Vatuu simply threw a wrench into a coherent story, that tried to make sense, but it could not, the Avatar State was Raava's power channelled and not the Avatar and the past lives were simply held as a memory buffer, as it was shown Raava cannot be killed, yet Wan's past lives and memories died once she was disintegrated? Don't like the Raava/Vatuu explanation meh
tainor89 For what it's worth, your deepest childhood memories from infanthood effect you who you are, but it's subtle. You can't remember them, at least not without some hypnotherapy.
As far as personality goes...Aang spent his entire life being a pacifist who fights anything that goes wrong. Is it any wonder that Korra is naturally a fighter who sees the bad in things before the good?
tainor89 Hi I made a new Korra AMV I hope you like it! 🤗❤️
Good point! I don't like the Raava/Vatuu explanation too
I'm 100% with you, but you need to throw in a couple paragraphs and break it up a bit. A block of text like that is hard to read.
raava acts like a catalyst, she connects them all to her. it is the simple fact that once raava and wan became one at harmonic convergence they created one spirit that had too different halves. raava cannot die she can only be subdued for a short period of time but even then she’s not dead. so as long as she and one is connected wans spirit must be reborn.
Damn this guy really did his research!
I'm just starting to watch the series, on Book 2 at the moment so my interpretation is admittedly incomplete.
Anyway, the way I see it is that the state of being the Avatar is like having the key to a locked door. Hence why the current incarnation of the Avatar can go back and forth between the physical and the spiritual worlds where other people (even their own past incarnations) cannot do so without assistance from another entity, like when Sokka got captured by a forest spirit, Roku possessed Aang in order to help him escape the fire temple that one time, or when Admiral Zhao was carried away by the ocean spirit.
I guess the idea that the Avatar State is a defence mechanism would explain how the current one can communicate with their past incarnations. Because as the physical body dies the Avatar spirit moves the person's consciousness to the spirit world in order to preserve it?
I don't like the idea of the Avatar spirit being innately good. or the idea of there being an evil opposite.
I like the idea of the Avatar spirit being an amoral 'thing' like any other, neither good nor evil, and the people who had it in the past took it upon themselves to use it for good.
I think he might really be onto something with the spark thing because everything about the avatar matches up with the Dalai Lama even how they identify the next Avatar is taken from one of the tests to identify the next Dalai Lama it almost seems as if the way the avatar reincarnates matches with both ways described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead
Except 2 moments that bring it all into question for me
The the 1st was in a computer game I believe it was Escape the spirit world or something like that
Aang talks to the 4 avatar before him
At the water bender's turn he is describing how his fiance was pulled through the waters at the Spirit Oasis on their wedding day and he describes to Aang what she looks like
Aang tells him about how he went into the spirit world looking for Koh the face stealer and he had a face that matched the avatars fiance the waterbender looks distressed and says he is off to take care of the problem or something I don't remember what but he seemed as if he could act independently of the new Avatar in the spirit world
The 2nd was in the season 2 finale of LoK
Tenzin, Bumi, Kya, and Jinora are all separated and lost in the spirit fog that causes you to go crazy Tenzin is talking to himself about how he's the Last Hope for the air Nation or something like that and then Aang shows up to him and says you're not me you need to quit trying to be me you were Tenzin and then fog clears and he gets the others and takes the out
Tenzin isn't spiritually powerful enough to do that he couldn't even meditate to get into the spirit world hell Jinora wasn't even spiritually power enough to do that even during harmonic convergence
I think it took an avatar and I think Aang was able to go and do that because his Spirit was able to act independently in the spirit world the same as the water benders seemed to do
On a different note I think they split the 4th Dalai Lama in to two characters and changed chang like 2 things for ATLA, Aang and Zuko
The 4th Dalai Lama, Yonten Gyatso was the great grandson of Altan Khan who was declared the reincarnation of Kublai Khan by the 3rd Dalai Lama
Kublai Khan was the 5th Khagan of the Mongol Empire and grandson Genghis Khan he also started the Yuan dynasty in China
In the fog it wasn't aang. It was the Tenzin going slowly crazy because of the fog itself, he was imagination him. The fog brings out your deepest fears or concerns depending on who you are.
I think Avatars are like twins, or like cells splitting. Sure they have a similar blueprint, but they end up different.
I never noticed this until last night but the four elements are all examples of the four states of matter (I know that everything can change their state of matter but I'm talking about the four element's most basic form) water=liquid fire=plasma earth=solid and air=gas
its also the order wan got the elements in.
Backupop they're the Galilean elements, what Galileo originally proposed everything was made of
As well as the seasons
i just checked the episode.
he has fire, gets air.
"then i should visit more lion turtles"
gets water shortly after that sentence
then gets earth after that.
so fire, air, water, earth
to James Berend : Aristotle (that stupid bitch) say that matter was made of air, fire, water and earth (and ether), not Galileo.
Galileo believes in atoms. And their is no such things as "Galilean elements"
Another example that personality is separate from the soul is the last ep when aang was about to kill sozin. Since aang is linked with raava, she can give him all the past avatars' knowledge, and all of the avatars aang asked said he might have to kill. Right when aang was in the avatar state about to kill sozin his personality stepped in and stopped raava's supply of the knowledge from the past avatars.
If Wan reincarnates. That means all people in the avatar world reincarnates. Wan is just a normal person like every other person in the avatar world. Rava reconnects to Wan's spirit specifically.
I like to make certain comparison. Doctor Who's regenerations.
The Doctor is one person, certain inherent traits of them passing on from each regeneration to the next. But what's mostly holding them together is memory, knowing who they were and how they were. But they're still somewhat individual people.
Now, the Avatar only has a tiny fragment of small memories and direct connection the who they were, but, the same way as the Doctor, part of their essence remain.
Korra loosing her connection to her psst lives Is equivalent to the Doctor losing their memories, only knowing who they are from the point of regeneration onwards, and only knowing they're supposed to fullfil a role as The Doctor
Yes but in Doctor Who, the Doctor dosen't talk to dead people who were actually him in a precedent incarnation ... Excepted if he travels in time.
what was avatar roku-kyoshi-kruk and yangchen's story
Bad Boy how did you comment before the vid came out?!
Ardy 1006 patreon prob gets it first
Vikings488 ohhhhh that makes sense
Bad Boy I want to know that too!
Where did you find out Kyoshi was bisexual?
I'd like to reincarnate as lord Mishka
Sooo..
Why did korra not know about Raava? Raava was inside all of the avatars, because raava gets basically pulled out of Korra by the bad avatar. Given how important she was for wan, other avatars should've been able to know her name.
Dyna1One Very good question.
I dont think the Raava explanation was really intended from the beginning or completely thought out, it was just thrown in there
Wan knew Raava because they joined, and I am sure there were many avatars after Wan who spoke with her. However, over 1000 lifetimes the human experiences outshine the one. Even if it is a powerful spirit. Plus, as someone pointed out, Raava would rely on the past avatars to share their stories because Raava wouldn't be able to connect. How could It?
I have a theory on that
It's about the harmonic conversion, it's like a theoretical prophecy kinda of sorts. I believe that since Wan divided Raava from Vatoo, and imprisoned the spirit of darkness on the tree of time, a new kind of cicle was created, that in every 10000 years of the reign of one of the spirits(good or bad avatar), when harmonic conversion happens again, there will be a great fight between them, just like what happened in Korra, and most importantly, the previous winner will always be "reseted" somehow, for the sake of balance and fairness of the fight, all their connection to past lives and their power and wisdom will be permanently Lost, just like in korra. So the why of Raava was only in LoK and we never saw her talking to Aang it's because Korra is the "last" avatar of the old cicle- she was always meant to be(we can see that on the statues of the avatars on the Airtemple that there is only a few spaces left for the future avatars, the space basically ends with korra's statue, so we can use that like an Mayan calendar) - thus she's the first to begin the new cicle, she's like Wan, the only other avatar that we knew that interacted so intensely with Raava
I think its because since the spirtual side of all elements was not always caught up with the Avatar unless they studied in their avatar state. So its possible raava was forgotten about
Wan (Fire)
(Unknown Air avatar)
-lot’s of avatars-
Yenchen (Air)
Kuruk (Water)
Kyoshi (Earth)
Roku (Fire)
Aang (Air)
Korra (Water)
Unknown Earth Avatar
Unknown Earthbending Avatar - Coming soon (hopefully)
Vishanthfishy .R will be twins
These videos about the Avatars makes my week! I LOVE AVATAR THE LAST AIRBENDER! ❤
And your voice is so nice, so inviting :3 keep making videos! I will watch them all!
I don't think Rava gives the ability to reincarnate. The way she says "we will be together for all of your lifetimes" makes it sound like he would have already had different lifetimes on his own, but now they can be together through it. So I don't believe that what makes the avatar special is that he can reincarnate. Perhaps everyone can do that, but no one tests them on it or keeps records to show them like they would for the avatar.
Honestly I think reincarnation has to be looked at separately from being the avatar, and more like it has been seen in past wisdom. Like @Ida Thomsson has mentioned, the spirit is more of a path of life (to give more of an identity to that "spark" you mentioned) that's still subject to change. You can trace where it is now but you can't really nail it down type of thing. If we talk about the soul as the ongoing river, it's as if the avatar state is process of connecting to the ocean that this river feeds. Although the ocean has 'older' water in it, it does not feed the river. The river has a home in its current path (which will also change), and in the force that its source provides. Even though water is what makes you know it's a river, water alone doesn't make it a river in the way it would a body of water.
capoeiristachik1 Thank you for saying this! It really bugs me when others think that only the Avatar can reincarnate! While it hasn't been explicitly confirmed to my knowledge, everything heavily implies that EVERYONE reincarnates. And I like to use that line by Raava to Wan as some of my proof when this is brought up. What Raava says heavily implies Wan would have reincarnated with or without fusing with Raava.
What I do have a question about is if everyone else cycles through the four nations like the Avatar does or if that's Raava's doing in her quest to maintain balance. The reincarnation cycle being random or heavily favouring some nations would certainly add to the imbalance of the Avatar world. So it would make sense for Raava to do something about this if it already wasn't the default for everyone.
Another question about the Avatar cycle: Sozin believed that the Air Nomad Avatar was hiding from him. But the Fire Nation could have easily been successful in killing the Air Nomad Avatar without the Fire Nation knowing for sure. I guess this is why the Fire Nation killed all the Waterbenders they could in the Southern Water Tribe (since the Northern Water Tribe was harder to penetrate). Genocide of the Air Nomads alone is horrific to think about. But it's even scarier to think what the Fire Nation would have done if they believed they killed the Air Nomad Avatar. What would have really prevented them from committing genocide with the Water Tribes? And then within the Earth Kingdom? Would they have even gone after their own Fire Nation citizens after that or felt safe with the obvious propaganda they were feeding their people to believe the Fire Nation Avatar would be on the Fire Nation's side? I mean even with propoganda every Avatar has access to their previous lives. It's really something to think about.
I'm so glad you agree Maha. That's a good question, I'm not sure either. My guess would be that that is one of Raava's balancing acts. I don't see why souls would be so calculated otherwise. I think the fire nation was bluffing hard about having the avatar on their side and it is terrible to think of the consequences of what they're doing. But it is interesting to consider how every avatar is so different after reincarnating, and just how much the physical body and upbringing of that person influences them.
It's shown that you theoretically reincarnate in the Avatar world, like how Toph resembles Roku's Earthbending teacher (which was on purpose) and Toph asking if friendship lasts even beyond death.
But in terms for the Avatar they remember their past lives while everyone else cannot.
capoeiristachik1 your wrong have you even watch the episode??
Your videos are wonderful and if I were to reincarnate into a fictional animal it would be the Phoenix
If i were to rencarnate into a animal fictional or otherwise would have to be a Dragon i love them and i would love to be one! :)
Luke Skywalker the 2nd same
Graf Lennard Von Rhein-Neckar Because Dragon are AWESOME!
I would want to become a female dog so I can be a bitch to everyone
ME TOO but a really cool wild kanda thing or a clear and old kanda thing
I think the essence of their personalities is always there. Sometimes you see Katara giving that heartwarming smile to Korra like she just saw Aang in her. What makes them so different in their beliefs is the way they grew up and their experiences.
I think the key to understanding how the avatar spirits work is in the scene when Unalaq destroys Ravva. With each strike, a past incarnation was destroyed, meaning the memories and personalities of every avatar were stored within Ravva herself. I theorize that when the avatar is talking to a past incarnation, or when a past incarnation is taking over, it's actually ravva using the older data to help solve the problem.
I view reincarnation as a soul moving from body to body trying to learn lessons. The soul has all the memories from a past life but blocks them off so that their new lesson wont be tainted by habits from a previous life. This being what causes a woman from england visiting china and knowing a house, down to knowing how to pronounce the street without ever seeing it before, or in the most peculiar case I've seen, a young boy recognizing a beach and remembering a day where he, his wife, and his children played before going home, then being able to point out the exact house he lived in and knowing things he shouldn't have known. (you can youtube interviews with him talking about his other mother and his life before he died). Personally i havent experienced a bizzare "i know this place" moment but i believe it feels a lot like dejvu, like being able to name a perfume because your preschool babysitter wore it even though you cant even remember the babysitter. My beliefs stem from the egg theory, if you want to read more about them.
The most original name for any Avatar character: Avatar One. Sorry. Wan. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Wan" is chinese and means "graceful, gentle, elegant". In mandarin it also means "ten thousand" which is probably the real reason the name was picked.
@@nexusshark I see, thanks. I didn't really think that what I said was the real reason, but I had no idea what it could be. Still, I couldn't resist posting that.
Love the royalty free music mid video
Raava isn't the one who gave Wan the ability to bend the elements. The lion turtles did. Raava doesn't really do much except allow the Avatar to access their past lives with the avatar state (which more or less puts the spirit Raava in a human body), giving that avatar thousands of years of experience in that moment, until the avatar state passes. The avatar and Raava are pretty well separated.
But Raava is the one who made every single Avatar bends more than one element.
@@kalvinpratama4828 No, she didn't. They had to go to all the turtles individually. Raava didn't give him that ability. The lion turtles may have done it for other humans, too. They definitely had the ability to. They just probably didn't.
@@kalvinpratama4828 If Raava granted the avatar the ability to bend all 4 elements, Vaatu should be able to grant that ability to Unalaq when he became a dark avatar. He didn't get that ability, though. We only see him water and ice bending. Granted, his water bending is WAY more powerful because he has Vaatu inside of him, but still he only uses water bending that we see, because he, as a human, was granted that ability in a past life.
Timothy Alvis the lion turtles gave Wan the bending abilities but as a human he could only bend one a a time thats where Raava comes in, she contains the other bending abilities within the human so they can bend all 4 elements.
@@paulziiee Can spirits bend? This is an honest question. I don't think they can. I think every human can bend as many elements as are given to them, but that only Wan really had the desire to because he had to in order to help Raava defeat Vaatu, and no other humans were willing to stray that far from their homes to obtain the ability to bend all four elements, because there was no reason to.
One could say that the Avatar's sexuality *does* persist between lives. Every single Avatar we currently know of we either have no perspective on who their lover is, or we know they're into women at bare minimum lol
Dude OMG IM NEW TO THIS CHANNEL BUT GOOD LORD ITS ALREADY MY FAVORITE. Also dude I love your vids and keep up the amazing joy -bringing videos🙂
moonwitch I watched it and yes I did like it also nice job on the video😅
Can you do a theory on the avatar world solar system?
Edit: omg thank you for the heart!
Ardy 1006 I've also wondered about that alot
Bakemaster Koosh yeah it looks very different to ours.
SPOILERS
Can you make a theory about the giant Dragon skeleton on vaneheim
Yea, I was thinking the same
Plz see this
RELIGION
👏
IS
👏
Complicated
How does Fire Lord Zuko have a dragon???
The golden egg in the sun warriors that Zuko and Aang find is believed to be a dragon egg
@@keroline wouldnt it be easier that those 2 dragon that are alive made baby.
Framlii which happens to be the golden egg
I've always thought that the memories, thoughts, and memories of the past lives carry over to the next life. As new memories and experiences come in, it builds a new person. Haven't you ever said, "My six year old self is so happy right now," or "My 21 year old self is with you. My 38 year old stuff, not so much?" Haven't you ever had a "conversation" with your younger self? I think these memories are retained in Rava, which is why killing her broke the connection to the past lives. Each new person brings not only new social experiences, but new experiences in the body. Imagine being placed in a body that was allergic to your favorite food, or even just the taste buds react differently so it tastes horrible now. With arms and legs and tongue and neck all suddenly different lengths than ever before and weak as a newborn, all of your memories will be pushed to a subconscious level while you relearn to walk and talk and such.
If I could be reborn as anything, I'd want to be a river otter in a zoo. I saw river otters at the zoo. They always look likey they're having fun. I saw them mating once... I want to be a river otter.
I know, a pheonix that way I could be reborn into a baby pheonix when it is time to die and I could heal the venom of a basilisk.
And when I watched the episode when Korra was in the spirit world and found her teapot I was curious as to why she was a little girl while there instead of her actual age.
heather taylor saaaame
Because your form is a representation of how you view yourself at that point in time. Korra didn't have a guide anymore and she felt very alone, scared, and small on top of already being a little immature at the time. All emotions we typically feel as a child. She remained that way until she regained faith in herself.
Grizzly Bear. ("Platypusbear?" "Armadillobear?" "No, just bear.) Hairy, hungry, sleepy, and a loner? That's how I live right now.
What's funny is that Kuruk was ESTP. Kyoshi was ISTJ, Roku was INFJ and Aang was ENFP. Kyoshi and Aang have the same functions but reversed and this pattern is similar with Roku and Kuruk. This also makes sense as air is opposite to Earth and Fire is the opposite of Water.
Also, Aangs ENFP has the opposite functions to Rokus INFJ. The functions of ENFP is Ne Fi Te Si, whereas INFJ is Ni Fe Ti Se.
To me it seemed like every single Avatar is it's own entity to some degree.
They are all combined by Raava and maybe also Wan at the same time but the way they said "the Avatar reincarnates" in the show implies to me that the Avatar in itself is like a mixture of mental images, powers, natural beliefs that passes on to the next person but every Avatar is it's own spirit.
That's my guess.
Sadistic Half-Cabbage.
Not a thing I thought I'd hear ever.
Can you do a theory on how many Avatars existed between Wan and Korra. I'm really curious how many they were. I predicted about 60 to 70 Avatars in the cycle
Christopher Laurie well as you can see from the air temple, and the statues that glowed when Aang reached the avatar state. It looks far more than 70
Christopher Laurie it says that Wan lived over 10,000 years ago. Assuming the Avatar lives to be about 60 years old each time they reincarnate (since Aang, Roku, Wan, and many of the other Avatars seemed to be very old), if you divide 10,000 by 60, you get approximately 166 avatars. Of course, not ever avatar lives to be exactly 60 years old, so I'd say somewhere between 140-166 avatars from wan to Korra's time.
I might be far off but thought Avatar would longer than that. It seems clear that most people in the Avatar world live over 100 years old. king Bumi was about over 100. Avatar Kyoshi lived to about 230 years old according to the lore. I thought Avatars would be longer than other humans assuming they don't die from sickness like Aang (that's what some Avatars wiki says) or get killed like Roku at the volcano. let's say most Avatar lives over a 100 maybe about 230 like Kyoshi. My new estimate would be about 90 to 110 Avatar. This is just my speculation.
Christopher Laurie oh right I forgot about Kyoshi. Yeah maybe about 110-120 avatars.
Roku died when he was like 40-50. Yangchen and Kuruk both died in their thirties/twenties, so there's a pretty wide range for the number of avatars. Somewhere between 140 and 400.
Pretty awesome theory there. Good luck with the degree
The spirit is a Google doc and the avatar is what's written in it. It gets erased and rewritten with each new avatar but you can review the history of had previously been written and deleted
I heard a theory that each consecutive avatar is born to fix the past avatar’s greatest regret. Rokku’s greatest regret might have plausible been loosing so in, his former best friend, and therefore starting the war, and Aang was constantly in contact with his friends, he even locked his finally chakra for Katara (yes, I know that she’s a love interest, but I feel like he would have done the same for any of his friend), and took betrayal extremely seriously. Aang’s greatest regret would have been running from his avatar duties while Korra was eager to be the avatar from the start. Thank you for listening to my rant.
Sozin*
“Avatar spur-it”
I would either be Lugia, or a velociraptor (blue from JW) mostly since they're both badass.
We need an Earth bender Avatar to complete the cycle!
Kyoshi, Roku, Aang, Korra.
(Earth) (Fire) (Air) (Water)
Technically the cycle is complete.
But I agree. A new avatar series would be awesome!!!
Colton Buckley or at least continue Korra! And where is Sokka?
Saphira Tamaki dead
Colton Buckley no fire starts cycle so Kyoshi would be last avatar of cycle before Roku
They never mentioned anything of him in the series. Where do you hear that information?
Been bingeing your avatar videos to get back into understanding the whole world of the show
And i finally subscribed and clicked the bell cause your content is quality stuff and i enjoy your enthusiasm !💖👏👏👏👏
I have been watching you avatar videos for the past couple weeks. We can all tell, you put a lot of work in your videos. You just gained a sub.👍
So does that mean that Doctor Who is an Avatar? Lol
I would reincarnate as Mishka!
Jack Sparrow same
You FOOL no Mortal can be reincarnated into our lord Mishka
Cringe
Remember Aang didn't want to be the Avatar.....while Korra didn't know who she is without being the Avatar.....
Boy, that was some philosophy for datass.......#Knowledge.
Anyway, that was a joyful ride your video, and I agree, the avatar cycle is Wan the human and Waava recycling through time, and world changes and views. Each avatar will show some similarities from time to time (like when Aang was trying to destroy the drill machine in Ba Sing Se, he stated I wish I was a mental bender"....then Korra later on picked up mental bending in a heart beat.......Aang had difficulties with the other elements to later on became child play through Korra. But the main thing that made a person the avatar is the ability to bend all 4 elements humanly (No one else other than Wan was able to do that) therefore all reincarnation has to be him - Waava come later with the ability to communicate with spirits.
Now, since the avatar are born in different tribe, nation, kingdom respectively, their perception, up bringing action will be different ...Aang had freedom, while Korra was humanly raised...locked up for 17 years...she moved to Rep City and homegirl didn't know how to act. But quickly recognized what is fair or not when the people came to treat the merchant
Well aang grew up being a normal kid, and because he wasn't exposed to being the avatar like the rest were at the age 18 (presumably when childhood was over in this universe) it changed everything for him because he was still growing up and had to interact with the other kids around him versus adults and seclusion to mastery. When he told katara his story viewers could see how the other kids treated him different, how he was almost separated from his guardian, and how his masters treated him differently (even though they had already had his knowledge) in their haste to develop his avatar qualities. And even though he didn't know he was avatar aang was obviously a natural at his born element, air as he created his own techniques and games while being the prefect example of a kindred spirit that is associated with monks. In comparison, korra had already almost out of the womb been bending all elements, (except air) and being avatar was very much integrated into who she was-this said she was an even more developed pupil than aang-she also grew up in seclusion practicing only the elements (but apparently lacking the spiritual development of the avatar) so she basically ate slept drank avatar training. Strange how she was found at such a young age, even in comparison to aang (no less already bending multiple elements and knowing it!).
I think that all beings reincarnate - not just the avatar with raava's ability. I think you are bang on with the rest of the theory though - that raava is the reason that avataar had the connection to the previous avatars' lives. During harmonic convergence, Korra basically recreated the same thing that Won did initially by bonding to Raava once again (albeit, a new smaller version who didn't have the previous lives within). I think the reincarnation ability is not really related at all. Since within buddhism and hinduism, reincarnation is for all beings --- we mostly just do not know what our past lives are because knowing is not really relevant for our growth.
I personally like the fan theory that all humans in the avatar universe can reincarnate, and that Azula was reincarnated into Asami to be given a second chance. Put in a lot of the same situations: losing her mother, being groomed by a power-hungry father. But she reacts to them in a different way than Azula. I'm not putting this in nearly as compelling a way as the person I read it from did, but there's a lot of potential there