@@leeseibert4979 Thanks Lee, this is brilliant. Maybe Josh will use it in his videos, that would be very cool. You should brand it put some cool graphics on the box.
ha ha i am a bass player as well but that never interfered with my reading comprehension skills . you are giving a lot of reasons why you shouldnt care about any of this , the facts are all of the music we listen to has been processed so perhaps rather than constantly trashing things like pedals and digital devices , we as a comunity , especially when we are online should embrace this technology . i see this elitist gear fetishizing of tubes and les pauls , i wont have anything to do with that . but dare you admit to using a modeller you get gang banged told "tube sound better" by the way bass players have been using pedals for a very very long time now . is that clear enough ? joshs channel is a work of art , its selfless , yet you pad out your compliment with reasons why you shouldnt care . this is symptomatic of internet guitar player community troll syndrom . have a great day , life is a path .
@@peteytwofinger I wasn't trying to imply that I hate pedals or have no use for them, and I certainly didn't do so with any rage. If I had such a disdain for pedals why the hell would I watch this channel? All I meant was that the content usually isn't super relevant to me but I still find it fascinating and entertaining.
What I love about Gabriel and Collins is that they appeared a bunch on each other's albums after Gabriel left Genesis. Stayed friends and drove each other to greater heights. I refuse to pick a favorite.
Yeah , TOTzactly for the Tony Levin. Actually, even if you're not into Gabriel, Tony Levin would be the first and last thing I say about all of Gabriel's work. Phil Collins is one of what Bill Hicks described as "Demons set loose upon The Earth to lower the standards for The Perfect And Holy Children if God" -this will prepare us to accept the AntiChrist and then Satan. Fun Fact: Bill Hicks had several Albums dedicated to him "The Bends" RATM "Evil Empire" (I think that's the right album, IDK, I was born too old to appreciate a Whiny white rapper ripping off a bunch of old Funkadelic and Zep licks and constructing grooves in ProTools and somehow buying out several of the monthly guitar mags every month to shove their product down prepubescent throats before they actually hear all the old Funkadelic/ Sabbath/ Zep/ McLaughlin/ Zappa/ Fripp) and , more intensely, every song and concept on Aenima. If you hate Gabriel already- everybody still has to own Passion Sources and Passion (Soundtrack to Last Temptation if Christ - super controversial 80s movie where Harvey Keitel tries to offer Jesus some bootie right before he dies, thereby undermining (blowing) all the work he did for The New Testament.
@@peterwelsh1932 This is what it's like when you're going along just fine and everything's normal, and then just like that something snaps and you go straight off the deep end.
I think you should've included the TC pedals that have the "mash" function. That is a worthy feature when talking about expressive pedals. Love your channel! Keep bringing the pedal geek content!
I used the DL4 in about the most opposite way as a loop pedal for my heavily equalized and processed shortwave radio as an instrument, played live. This is an extraordinary effect.
@@nevercanyoucant I did an album of this work with Aidan Baker and Patrick Jordan that got a great review in the Wire called 'Nagual'. It was a limited edition release but I have it available on my Bandcamp page. Massimo Ricci in 'Touching Extremes' called it "a 60-minute suite that easily reaches the highest positions in my personal space/ambient rank of the last five years", and said, "Depths similar to the ones reached by the best Lustmord are observed". I think you'd like it. 😊
I love So. "Mercy Street" is a go-to melancholy song for me. Elbow's cover of the song is one of my favorite covers of any song. I do "In Your Eyes" at karaoke pretty regularly. My favorite thing is when someone realizes the song (and the movie it was featured in) and holds something above their head (like the karaoke book) in place of John Cusack's boombox. :) I personally am a Peter Gabriel fan, but someone I once dated had a nice outlook on it: 1) like old Genesis for what it is, 2) like Peter Gabriel for what he does, and 3) sure, go ahead and like Phil Collins's pop music, too. I think they all sate different hungers, you know?
HEY JOSH!!! I would love to see more of the technical stuff, maybe the lab, shop, work area? I’ve really delved into electronics & test gear restoration in the past few years, coupled with my guitar business… I just really enjoy seeing labs and electronics workbenches. Would love to see a tour of your assembly area, any electronica test gear, soldering stuff, and hear from a few of your employees, Or yourself about Prototyping and circuits. Even the super nerdy stuff like modern SMD components and transistors and such… And how they compare to vintage stuff. You can’t get too nerdy for me! I know you did an article for Premier guitar… But I haven’t been able to find a video about it. Also would love to hear about your electronics experience! Thanks for your great content and products!
Of course multi-effects users have long known about expression pedals. I first got into them (or it) nearly thirty years ago, when I used two on my Roland GP-16. I currently use three or four on my various guitar synths. Even on early models like the GR-300 or GR-700 you could attach a pedal to control the VCF.
tony levin is peter gabriels secret weapon , and here is something fun look into his disco , all the records tony played on , hint john lennon-pink floyd - and a lot inbetween . i met him once and he is really one of those down to earth nice folks with a sense of humor . check out his stunning photography , he shoots when he tours so he has a book full of amazing photographs .tony levin is the coolest . he has funk fingers , it never ends with this levin guy !
Tony Levin's bass riff in "Big Time" is definitely enjoyable. I believe he used some weird wooden dowels strapped to his fingers to hit the strings on his right hand for it.
oh , pardon me i heard some one speaking on tony levins funk fingers ... the coolest stocking stuffer on the planet . next to a ruttles t shirt of course for the pedal guru / guerilla who has it all .
When I learned that the Line 6 expression-pedal standard was simply a 0-10k variable resistance to ground, I though "Hey, I could do that with a photocell!". So I did. I affixed a photocell to the surface of my guitar with double-sided tape, just below the bridge, such that I could work it with my picking-hand pinky. It requires an available light source, so you can't use it in the dark, and it also requires an additional cable, but well worth it for the very different feel it provides. One can also use force-sensing resistors mounted to the guitar's surface, the same way that David Rainger uses them for his Igor pressure pads. Finally, the black conductive foam, that static-sensitive chips are normally stored and shipped in, can also be used as a sort of pressure-sensitive resistance, that can be converted into expression-control on the guitar itself. I also scored a Source Audio Hot Hand 3. A different sort of expression controller, detecting hand motion in 3 dimensions, that works great. The only caveat, from my perspective, is that you can't use it with guitar as you play, the way you can use a foot pedal, because it senses your hand/finger motions *after* you pick/strum. You have to wave your hand, which you can't do while you're picking. That's not nothing, mind you. It just restricts your expression to certain times during the music you're playing. The Hot Hand puts out two kinds of expression "messages" concurrently: a 0-10k variable resistance to meet the Line 6 standard, and a pair of 0-3.3v control voltages, as per the Source Audio standard. But you can make a little breakout-box to send the control voltages to different destinations if you choose, such that hand movement on this axis controls one thing and hand movement on a different axis controls something else. The last expression method you overlooked is the recently-developed MASH switches on some TC Electronics pedals. These use Hall sensors, that detect the proximity of a magnet source. The magnet is part of the bottom of the stomp-switch, such that it can be used like a built-in expression pedal. I don't know what to be more impressed with: the concept, or the fact that minute movements of the switch plunger can be sensed.
Big ups for shouting out "So." Incredible record. "Sledgehammer" is one of the best pop songs ever written, arranged and produced and its video is equally as seminal.
Thanks for more great content, Josh. The guitar is one of the most expressive instruments and pedals help to stretch the envelope (no pun intended) ever further.
Hey Josh, Love the channel and all of the knowledge you share and the jams too. I would really like to see an episode where you could tell us about how you power all of these different devices. The power cord never gets any glory.
The first four Peter Gabriel albums are amazing. I'm not a fan of "So" at all, however. It's missing the theatrics and fun of the first four albums, in my opinion. It's certainly a technical wonder, and the songs are good, but it just leaves me a bit cold. Compared to Phil Collins, I prefer Gabriel, but don't sleep on "Face Value". An absolutely tremendous record, start to finish. I think it compares favorably to anything in Gabriel's catalog.
I initially thought that but immediately dismissed it as I've seen just a hint of his collection in these videos. Josh understands the desire for more pedals as much as anyone.
Agreed, So is a masterpiece. Then again, the rest of PG's output is pretty damn phenomenal. And yes, I prefer Peter Gabriel. Can't say I like Collins at all.
Every year at Beatle Week (yearly music festival in Liverpool where every band is a beatles tribute band), there's always one of them who do a Rutles set, and it's always one of the best parts of the whole week. Those songs were damn good, though guess that's because they were so similar to already great songs anyway. And quite a few will throw in a verse of Get Up And Go into Get Back and I love it
I use the waza craft expression for oscillation underneath what I'm playing on one of our songs!! I experimented with a plugin on the recording, and decided that I had to do it live too.
"They were pretty rough but they had something. I think it was the trousers.” "Macaw offered to record the Rutles and recommended Leggy to Dick Jaws, an unemployed music publisher of no fixed ability. “I liked the trousers right away. I’d been in the garment trade myself and knew a thing or two about inseams, and they were clearly winners. The Rutles themselves had many advantages: They were young, keen and above all very cheap, so I signed them up for the rest of their natural lives. Lucky really.” Elated, Leggy put the Rutles into the studio. Their first album was made in twenty minutes. Their second took even longer." " He hated their music, he hated their hair, he hated their noise: but he loved their trousers. ... " " One day he accidentally stumbled down the steps of a dingy disco - what he saw there was to change his life: a sailor who told him about the Rutles. It was a dank, sweaty, basement cellar, torrid and pulsating with sound. Leggy hated it. He hated their music, he hated their hair, he hated their noise: but he loved their trousers. In his autobiography, A Cellarful Of Goys, Leggy tells of timorously approaching Ron Nasty and asking him what it would cost to sign the Rutles. “A couple of jam butties and a beer” was Nasty’s reply. Next day Leggy sent them a crate of beer, two jam butties and a fifteen page contract. The Rutles, instinctively trusting this softly spoken, quietly limping man, signed immediately." "Stig, meanwhile, had hidden in the background so much that in 1969 a rumour went around that he was dead. He was supposed to have been killed in a flash fire at a water bed shop and was replaced by a plastic and wax replica from Madame Tussauds. Several so-called ‘facts’ helped the emergence of this rumour. Firstly, he never said anything. Even as the ‘quiet one’ he had not said a word since 1962. Secondly, on the cover of their latest album, Shabby Road, he was wearing no trousers, an old Italian way of indicating death.
I'm expressing with my full capabilities And now I'm living in correctional facilities Cause some don't agree with how I do this I get straight and meditate like a Buddhist
I love Peter Gabriel in Genesis, Supper's Ready is AMAZING. I have had that on Vinyl for over 20 years and it shows. HAHA. I've been to Bath England and stood on Solisbury Hill in Peter's honor. I'm a huge fan of the Boss FV-500. It's on my board permanently. I love Keeley's Monterey, Vibe Machine and Iron Ether's Polytope and use expression with those.
The electro~harmonix superego+ and the electro~harmonix Attack Decay both allow you to save the settings of EVERY knob in the heel-down position and in the toe-down position, so you can sweep between the stored heel-down and toe-down positions of all the knobs simultaneously. Very nice.
You missed out by not at least mentioning the Moog Mini Fooger (MF) Series since they all had expression pedal inputs. The MF ring mod with expression can turn your guitar into R2D2.
James Rushing Not to mention the actual MoogerFooger series... The ClusterFlux is the best bucket brigade analog chorus I’ve ever owned, and it has the ability to use control voltage expression pedal for nearly every major parameter on the panel, in addition to full MIDI implementation.
I saw Genesis on their first tour after Peter left. Phil came out front and did a great job with the vocals on all the PG material. Oh, and the fill-in drummer was - wait for it - Bill Bruford! He and Phil did a two kit, fifteen minute drum piece that sent chills up my spine it was so good. So thank you, Phil Collins, for a very special performance.
_"The place where I come from is a small town They think so small They use small words But not me I'm smarter than that I worked it out I've been stretching my mouth To let those big words come right out"_ One of my all-time favorite lyrics...
Peter Gabriel Carpet Crawlers is one of my favorites. Phil is a fantastic drummer and did a great job taking over for Peter but artistically, PG wins ! PC became too mainstream. He made more $ and good for him
Gabriel of course..... "So" is indeed a masterpiece. Also phenomenal was "Us", the follow-up record. His early post Genesis stuff was awesome... BUT.... "Passion" the soundtrack to the film "The Last Temptation of Christ" is a gateway to world music and I owe him many thanks for putting that record together.
Thank you for wearing a respectably cool pair of shoes for this... I got an expression pedal several months ago when I got the Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe because some paramaters on some of the delay programs could only be controlled that way. One is the resonant filter delay setting, which is very easy to send into self-oscillating feedback, but you can change the cutoff frequency with the expression pedal to stop it from completely running away, a super cool effect. In general expression control of a delay is really cool. I have the Strymon Volante, and you can set up any combination of parameters to be controlled with an expression pedal (with any range per control) for every preset (stored with the presets). That's super cool also, but somehow I like the quirky, less predictable things that you get with the Catalinbread pedal. About expression pedals themselves, I only have experience with the pretty inexpensive EHX that I bought. It works very well and has nice features, but my only complaint is that the treadle is made of such lightweight plastic that it's VERY difficult to lift your foot off of it without moving it slightly, so it can be hard to set a very precise sound and leave it there. Peter Gabriel is leagues above Phil Collins in everything except drumming. "So" is indeed a great album, but my favorite is the fourth self-titled solo album (renamed "Security" in the US at least). One of the first albums I heard that prominently featured the Fairlight CMI sampling workstation. It was incredibly primitive digital tech by today's standards (your phone undoubtedly can do better sampling) but it still sounds amazing because it was so well used in the production. It also featured the single "Shock the Monkey", a great song that also got hugely heavy airplay on the nascent MTV, largely because it was rare for any artists to make a video with such high production values then (which again manages to not look dated despite it's primitive tech)
I prefer both you aint gotta choose between Gabriel and Phil. its a big beautiful world and you can love both for different reasons. u know this man!!!
Mad props!👌👍 for mentioning "so" in the record time. As for picking between "Gabriel" and "Collins" that be like picking between my children!.... if I had any?
Comment #742: About 30 years ago, I pulled the delay time pot out of my Ibanez AD-9, put in a 1/8" TRS jack, and put that pot connected to a stereo headphone cord (trashed) into a gutted Maestro Boomerang wah (also trashed). I set the pot for long delays forward. I put stick-on rubber feet at both ends of the throw so it wouldn't click, but found that if I squashed the short side, I got some REALLY cool manual chorusflange type modulation.
Great episode. I bought my first expression pedal recently (I’ve been playing for 40years). I’m on a new journey. Peter Gabriel. Phil was great the first time but don’t care if I never heard another track. So is a quality red wine. Sledgehammer still gives me goosebumps and is on my desert island list. Now let’s plug my Dunlop mini into my Unicorn...
I have a source audio reflex espression pedal. Having the preset and multiple output options has been really helpful with keeping my use of expression pedals dynamic and fresh. It also has an lfo generator for controlling parameters too. The thing is revolutionary.
My musical exploration began mostly with Peter Gabriel. I heard "So" and I was in heaven with the songwriting and the synthesizer programming. Next I went to all of his earlier solo records and also records he worked on in Genesis, "From Genesis To Revelation" and "Foxtrot." The musicians he worked with later led me to looking for synthesizer heavy music by Larry Fast. I'm still very emotionally fond of the music of Peter Gabriel. I heard his music is on Bandcamp now.
I love your videos josh, honestly, i see a lot of people talking about obsessively getting pedals, and as anti-materialist I am, your videos actually encourage me to get a proper job, so thank you, for better or for worse. :)
Great vid.....very expressive. I would choose Gabriel over Collins - but Phil is certainly also all-time great. He is incredibly under-rated as a drummer....his work with "Brand X" alone exemplifies his greatness as a musician.
Another great episode full of great info. Gabriel's voice is better imo. Nice and raspy. Plus his theatrics on stage are wonderful. The early Genesis stuff was crazy. He was a total freak! 😂
Ah The Rutles. My home town heroes from Liverpool UK. Their manager Leggy Mountbatten was born & lived 2 streets away from me. There was some other imposter beat combo called The Beatles but they were nothing compared to The Rutles. ;) Seriously though Brian Epstein was born 2 streets away from where I'm sitting now. He was born on Rodney Street. I even sent a pic of the house to a friend of mine in California just the other day as she loves The Beatles. The Beatles tourism bus goes past our street too about 10 times a day. Cheers Josh man. ;)
I love colors too. Always dig mxr for their simple solid colors...I like the way you do something similar with the addition of a simple, recognizable icon.
I literally have been looking for an expression pedal for a couple of months and bought one exactly one week ago. It's a Dunlop X volume expression pedal so it's awesome. But, I would have liked to have seen this episode before I bought. Still happy, just funny how life is.
I like expression pedal for rotary speaker speed. Also good for a delay or reverb with a "hold" function for a instant pad synth sound underneath your playing.
Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins..... I'm going to have to go with both. When I was a kid they both had hit songs on the radio that were great to sing along to. Both had some crazy music videos. While I haven't listened to the entire catalogs of either I would say that Phil Collins is more accessible to the mainstream if you're wanting to please more people at a party..... but if you wanna get weird and experimental Peter Gabriel is your man. Both have great voices, both are great songwriters.
Peter Gabriel's Melt album is a personal favorite. Gabriel and Collins were great together, but they hit each of their creative peaks after they went separate ways.
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Oh, yeah!!😆 Josh likes it!!! Everything that's beeping,swooshing, whirling, noodling, frozzling, dingeling,hooping!!- That's exactly, what he likes most!! And the stranger it sounds, the better it is!! 😉
I say peter Gabriel all day long ... Incredible.... That pedal u made w/ the Lesley effect is an amazing expression.. thx Bro .. Awesome job u do here ...
I always thought Phil Collins was the brains and Peter Gabriel was more fluff, but more recently I've come to respect the more subtle brilliance of Gabriel's work. I think I still like Phil Collins more but I'm done feeling like I need to pick between the two. They're both great!
I like Peter Gabriel better, but it's close. His live show is what gives him the edge. I love expression pedals! This has been on of my favorite episodes.
They both have their strengths and Phil absolutely has had brilliant moments as well, but I'd have to agree that Peter was and is an AMAZING one-of-a-kind vocal artist. Its pretty important to note that Phil was reluctantly thrust into the frontman/lead singer role, it was a role he would have preferred Peter kept as well. All that said, Phil stood on the shoulders of a giant (Peter) and did an outstanding (if somewhat more workmanlike/Detroit) job of it. They can both be very very proud of their careers as musicians.
Josh do you have an expressionator? You can control 3 effects with one expression pedal and change the sweep of the pedal to go in steps or non linear curves. Some pedals that I didnt like using expression on were awesome with different sweeps.
great video as always. as a modular synth user, few things on a pedal make me happier than an expression/CV jack. it's such a technologically simple implementation that it opens up nearly endless possibilities for creating and altering simple voltages. on phil vs peter: sorry if this is a hack answer but if someone tries to force me i can only choose peter as a vocalist and visionary, and phil as a more ordinary (but ~almost equally great) pop writer/producer.
I feel famous. Thanks for putting my spring expression pedal on your desk forever!
Nice pedal!
Where can we buy one?
reverb.com/item/28426164-homeade-spring-expression-pedal
@@leeseibert4979 Thanks Lee, this is brilliant. Maybe Josh will use it in his videos, that would be very cool. You should brand it put some cool graphics on the box.
I think Josh said it "controls the expression perimeters" ... eager to know about these perimeters! ;-)
I'm a bass player with only a few pedals, but this has quickly become my favorite channel on YT.
excuses excuses ! whats not to love , people who rage hate on pedals let me show you the door , the adults are having a talk ...
@@peteytwofinger What are you talking about?
ha ha i am a bass player as well but that never interfered with my reading comprehension skills . you are giving a lot of reasons why you shouldnt care about any of this , the facts are all of the music we listen to has been processed so perhaps rather than constantly trashing things like pedals and digital devices , we as a comunity , especially when we are online should embrace this technology . i see this elitist gear fetishizing of tubes and les pauls , i wont have anything to do with that . but dare you admit to using a modeller you get gang banged told "tube sound better" by the way bass players have been using pedals for a very very long time now . is that clear enough ? joshs channel is a work of art , its selfless , yet you pad out your compliment with reasons why you shouldnt care . this is symptomatic of internet guitar player community troll syndrom . have a great day , life is a path .
@@peteytwofinger I wasn't trying to imply that I hate pedals or have no use for them, and I certainly didn't do so with any rage. If I had such a disdain for pedals why the hell would I watch this channel? All I meant was that the content usually isn't super relevant to me but I still find it fascinating and entertaining.
petey twofinger dude, switch to decaf.
It's heartening to know Josh has a healthy appreciation for the Pre-Fab Four
What I love about Gabriel and Collins is that they appeared a bunch on each other's albums after Gabriel left Genesis. Stayed friends and drove each other to greater heights. I refuse to pick a favorite.
Thank you! Someone gets it!
yeah, this is how i feel about it!
ok but what if there was a fire and u had to choose?
@@heybuddy6794 I'd save Peter Gabriel, but I'd make him grab my Phil Collins records first.
honestly... sorry guys but I'd rescue Kate Bush
It is fascinating to see someone talk about a topic they love. And Josh sure loves effects!
Peter Grabriel over Phil? Oh god yes. Absolutely. Also, Let's not forget Tony Levin on Bass and Chapman Stick on that album.
Yeah , TOTzactly for the Tony Levin. Actually, even if you're not into Gabriel, Tony Levin would be the first and last thing I say about all of Gabriel's work. Phil Collins is one of what Bill Hicks described as "Demons set loose upon The Earth to lower the standards for The Perfect And Holy Children if God" -this will prepare us to accept the AntiChrist and then Satan. Fun Fact: Bill Hicks had several Albums dedicated to him "The Bends" RATM "Evil Empire" (I think that's the right album, IDK, I was born too old to appreciate a Whiny white rapper ripping off a bunch of old Funkadelic and Zep licks and constructing grooves in ProTools and somehow buying out several of the monthly guitar mags every month to shove their product down prepubescent throats before they actually hear all the old Funkadelic/ Sabbath/ Zep/ McLaughlin/ Zappa/ Fripp) and , more intensely, every song and concept on Aenima. If you hate Gabriel already- everybody still has to own Passion Sources and Passion (Soundtrack to Last Temptation if Christ - super controversial 80s movie where Harvey Keitel tries to offer Jesus some bootie right before he dies, thereby undermining (blowing) all the work he did for The New Testament.
I don't recall seeing the artist, Mr. Stick, listed in the credits on that album :-D
@@peterwelsh1932 This is what it's like when you're going along just fine and everything's normal, and then just like that something snaps and you go straight off the deep end.
I think you should've included the TC pedals that have the "mash" function. That is a worthy feature when talking about expressive pedals. Love your channel! Keep bringing the pedal geek content!
I used the DL4 in about the most opposite way as a loop pedal for my heavily equalized and processed shortwave radio as an instrument, played live. This is an extraordinary effect.
sounds like my kinda art
@@nevercanyoucant I did an album of this work with Aidan Baker and Patrick Jordan that got a great review in the Wire called 'Nagual'. It was a limited edition release but I have it available on my Bandcamp page. Massimo Ricci in 'Touching Extremes' called it "a 60-minute suite that easily reaches the highest positions in my personal space/ambient rank of the last five years", and said, "Depths similar to the ones reached by the best Lustmord are observed". I think you'd like it. 😊
the mash technology on the new tc electronic pedals is pretty cool!
OMG, just saw the Rutles shirt! That's beautiful man, BEAUTIFUL! Best "documentary" ever made.
“Shocked.” (Rutles reference)
I love So.
"Mercy Street" is a go-to melancholy song for me. Elbow's cover of the song is one of my favorite covers of any song.
I do "In Your Eyes" at karaoke pretty regularly. My favorite thing is when someone realizes the song (and the movie it was featured in) and holds something above their head (like the karaoke book) in place of John Cusack's boombox. :)
I personally am a Peter Gabriel fan, but someone I once dated had a nice outlook on it: 1) like old Genesis for what it is, 2) like Peter Gabriel for what he does, and 3) sure, go ahead and like Phil Collins's pop music, too. I think they all sate different hungers, you know?
HEY JOSH!!!
I would love to see more of the technical stuff, maybe the lab, shop, work area?
I’ve really delved into electronics & test gear restoration in the past few years, coupled with my guitar business… I just really enjoy seeing labs and electronics workbenches.
Would love to see a tour of your assembly area, any electronica test gear, soldering stuff, and hear from a few of your employees, Or yourself about Prototyping and circuits. Even the super nerdy stuff like modern SMD components and transistors and such… And how they compare to vintage stuff. You can’t get too nerdy for me!
I know you did an article for Premier guitar… But I haven’t been able to find a video about it. Also would love to hear about your electronics experience!
Thanks for your great content and products!
Of course multi-effects users have long known about expression pedals. I first got into them (or it) nearly thirty years ago, when I used two on my Roland GP-16. I currently use three or four on my various guitar synths. Even on early models like the GR-300 or GR-700 you could attach a pedal to control the VCF.
I love that Josh is using a super cheap expression pedal for these demos. I got the same on on Amazon. Hasn't failed me yet!
What pedal is he using?
tony levin is peter gabriels secret weapon , and here is something fun look into his disco , all the records tony played on , hint john lennon-pink floyd - and a lot inbetween . i met him once and he is really one of those down to earth nice folks with a sense of humor . check out his stunning photography , he shoots when he tours so he has a book full of amazing photographs .tony levin is the coolest . he has funk fingers , it never ends with this levin guy !
There is a great chuck mangione live abum w levin and steve gadd
It's the most wonderful time of the week.
Tony Levin's bass riff in "Big Time" is definitely enjoyable. I believe he used some weird wooden dowels strapped to his fingers to hit the strings on his right hand for it.
oh , pardon me i heard some one speaking on tony levins funk fingers ... the coolest stocking stuffer on the planet . next to a ruttles t shirt of course for the pedal guru / guerilla who has it all .
When I learned that the Line 6 expression-pedal standard was simply a 0-10k variable resistance to ground, I though "Hey, I could do that with a photocell!". So I did. I affixed a photocell to the surface of my guitar with double-sided tape, just below the bridge, such that I could work it with my picking-hand pinky. It requires an available light source, so you can't use it in the dark, and it also requires an additional cable, but well worth it for the very different feel it provides.
One can also use force-sensing resistors mounted to the guitar's surface, the same way that David Rainger uses them for his Igor pressure pads. Finally, the black conductive foam, that static-sensitive chips are normally stored and shipped in, can also be used as a sort of pressure-sensitive resistance, that can be converted into expression-control on the guitar itself.
I also scored a Source Audio Hot Hand 3. A different sort of expression controller, detecting hand motion in 3 dimensions, that works great. The only caveat, from my perspective, is that you can't use it with guitar as you play, the way you can use a foot pedal, because it senses your hand/finger motions *after* you pick/strum. You have to wave your hand, which you can't do while you're picking. That's not nothing, mind you. It just restricts your expression to certain times during the music you're playing.
The Hot Hand puts out two kinds of expression "messages" concurrently: a 0-10k variable resistance to meet the Line 6 standard, and a pair of 0-3.3v control voltages, as per the Source Audio standard. But you can make a little breakout-box to send the control voltages to different destinations if you choose, such that hand movement on this axis controls one thing and hand movement on a different axis controls something else.
The last expression method you overlooked is the recently-developed MASH switches on some TC Electronics pedals. These use Hall sensors, that detect the proximity of a magnet source. The magnet is part of the bottom of the stomp-switch, such that it can be used like a built-in expression pedal. I don't know what to be more impressed with: the concept, or the fact that minute movements of the switch plunger can be sensed.
Big ups for shouting out "So." Incredible record. "Sledgehammer" is one of the best pop songs ever written, arranged and produced and its video is equally as seminal.
I am very depressed, but your videos give some sense to my life. Thank you!
Enzo deserves it's own episode! Such unique pedals...
Emperor chorus vibrato gave me an instant Streets Of SanFranCisco vibe, I had a flashback Friday feeling, nicely done😎😎😎
Thanks for more great content, Josh. The guitar is one of the most expressive instruments and pedals help to stretch the envelope (no pun intended) ever further.
That rutles t shirt is brilliant
Another honorable mention: Digitech EX7. Super underrated.
2:47 Whoa! Love the delays shortening as he presses the pedal forward! Hah! 9:33 is even better!!
Hey Josh,
Love the channel and all of the knowledge you share and the jams too.
I would really like to see an episode where you could tell us about how you power all of these different devices.
The power cord never gets any glory.
The Slicer is really cool for about 15 minutes every 2 or three years....
Starship Ghetto Byrd Truth about all of them!
I think that may been 10 minutes too much...
Can I borrow Yers for One or 2 years, PLZ/THX =P
nah man, I have a rad setting that gives you a kind of a seasick swirly reverse thing that only that pedal does... but don't tell anyone.
@@blasperez7764 Keep your secrets!
The first four Peter Gabriel albums are amazing. I'm not a fan of "So" at all, however. It's missing the theatrics and fun of the first four albums, in my opinion. It's certainly a technical wonder, and the songs are good, but it just leaves me a bit cold.
Compared to Phil Collins, I prefer Gabriel, but don't sleep on "Face Value". An absolutely tremendous record, start to finish. I think it compares favorably to anything in Gabriel's catalog.
Seconds Out is the best Genesis live album. nuff said.
Phil Gabriel and Peter Collins are terribly underrated.
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I first read "excessive pedals" and I was preparing my rant for how there is no such thing as too many pedals
I READ THAT TOO AT FIRST
Sonic Vitriol
I think if anyone would disagree with having too much pedals it would be Josh
I initially thought that but immediately dismissed it as I've seen just a hint of his collection in these videos. Josh understands the desire for more pedals as much as anyone.
I first read ‘expensive pedals’
Agreed, So is a masterpiece. Then again, the rest of PG's output is pretty damn phenomenal. And yes, I prefer Peter Gabriel. Can't say I like Collins at all.
Peter! Had a chance to see him live in the early 90’s. Best concert ever.
Same here! December 1992 at the L.A. Forum.
"I will always have, in the back of my mind, Cheese and Onions..."
do I have to spell it out?
"Get up and go, get up and go, get up and go back home"
Every year at Beatle Week (yearly music festival in Liverpool where every band is a beatles tribute band), there's always one of them who do a Rutles set, and it's always one of the best parts of the whole week. Those songs were damn good, though guess that's because they were so similar to already great songs anyway. And quite a few will throw in a verse of Get Up And Go into Get Back and I love it
Jaspertine That song is better than the Beatles Get Back
I use the waza craft expression for oscillation underneath what I'm playing on one of our songs!! I experimented with a plugin on the recording, and decided that I had to do it live too.
"They were pretty rough but they had something. I think it was the trousers.” "Macaw offered to record the Rutles and recommended Leggy to Dick Jaws, an unemployed music publisher of no fixed ability. “I liked the trousers right away. I’d been in the garment trade myself and knew a thing or two about inseams, and they were clearly winners. The Rutles themselves had many advantages: They were young, keen and above all very cheap, so I signed them up for the rest of their natural lives. Lucky really.”
Elated, Leggy put the Rutles into the studio. Their first album was made in twenty minutes. Their second took even longer." " He hated their music, he hated their hair, he hated their noise: but he loved their trousers. ... " " One day he accidentally stumbled down the steps of a dingy disco - what he saw there was to change his life: a sailor who told him about the Rutles. It was a dank, sweaty, basement cellar, torrid and pulsating with sound. Leggy hated it. He hated their music, he hated their hair, he hated their noise: but he loved their trousers. In his autobiography, A Cellarful Of Goys, Leggy tells of timorously approaching Ron Nasty and asking him what it would cost to sign the Rutles. “A couple of jam butties and a beer” was Nasty’s reply. Next day Leggy sent them a crate of beer, two jam butties and a fifteen page contract. The Rutles, instinctively trusting this softly spoken, quietly limping man, signed immediately." "Stig, meanwhile, had hidden in the background so much that in 1969 a rumour went around that he was dead. He was supposed to have been killed in a flash fire at a water bed shop and was replaced by a plastic and wax replica from Madame Tussauds. Several so-called ‘facts’ helped the emergence of this rumour.
Firstly, he never said anything. Even as the ‘quiet one’ he had not said a word since 1962. Secondly, on the cover of their latest album, Shabby Road, he was wearing no trousers, an old Italian way of indicating death.
Thought for a minute the record was gonna be NWA's Straight Outta Compton
I'm expressing with my full capabilities
And now I'm living in correctional facilities
Cause some don't agree with how I do this
I get straight and meditate like a Buddhist
I love Peter Gabriel in Genesis, Supper's Ready is AMAZING. I have had that on Vinyl for over 20 years and it shows. HAHA. I've been to Bath England and stood on Solisbury Hill in Peter's honor.
I'm a huge fan of the Boss FV-500. It's on my board permanently. I love Keeley's Monterey, Vibe Machine and Iron Ether's Polytope and use expression with those.
Zvex's probe stuff is another take on expression type stuff.
Between Phil and Pete, I gotta go Rutles! “Ouch, ouch, ouuuuch. Oooooh!”
Epic downplay for the old Bit quest! Such an inspiring pedal.
Love the Rutles shirt.
TC electronic has some expression sensors built into their bypass switches! I have the hall of fame, and it can do some pretty awesome stuff!
The electro~harmonix superego+ and the electro~harmonix Attack Decay both allow you to save the settings of EVERY knob in the heel-down position and in the toe-down position, so you can sweep between the stored heel-down and toe-down positions of all the knobs simultaneously. Very nice.
You missed out by not at least mentioning the Moog Mini Fooger (MF) Series since they all had expression pedal inputs. The MF ring mod with expression can turn your guitar into R2D2.
James Rushing Not to mention the actual MoogerFooger series... The ClusterFlux is the best bucket brigade analog chorus I’ve ever owned, and it has the ability to use control voltage expression pedal for nearly every major parameter on the panel, in addition to full MIDI implementation.
I got the MF Drive and it is a beast!
Tenis Dimants It’s been one of my two main drives for years... Super underrated pedal! I use it as a big thick fuzz type sound.
@@ninevehguitar Nice! I realy like how wide it can sound.
So thats what a ring modulator is good for R2-D2 sounds. Ok got it.
Great vid. I would also add the ZVex “Probe” series. And some of the stuff that Folktek is making is mind-blowing.
Agreed. I think a "Probe" -type expression pedal that could be used with other effects units would be awesome. *cough* *cough*
Anyone else notice that moment in record time when Josh’s hair completed the picture in the album cover?
11:54 - Amazing; and intentional. These guys are savvy.
I saw Genesis on their first tour after Peter left. Phil came out front and did a great job with the vocals on all the PG material. Oh, and the fill-in drummer was - wait for it - Bill Bruford! He and Phil did a two kit, fifteen minute drum piece that sent chills up my spine it was so good. So thank you, Phil Collins, for a very special performance.
_"The place where I come from is a small town
They think so small
They use small words
But not me
I'm smarter than that
I worked it out
I've been stretching my mouth
To let those big words come right out"_
One of my all-time favorite lyrics...
The intro blew my mind. I had no idea Vox was the first to do that
Peter Gabriel
Carpet Crawlers is one of my favorites. Phil is a fantastic drummer and did a great job taking over for Peter but artistically, PG wins ! PC became too mainstream. He made more $ and good for him
Carpet Crawlers is a perfect example of Phil and Peter's voices meshing perfectly.
Dad said, "Pshh no contest, Peter Gabriel." He's super excited I'm checking this out!
Gabriel of course..... "So" is indeed a masterpiece. Also phenomenal was "Us", the follow-up record. His early post Genesis stuff was awesome... BUT.... "Passion" the soundtrack to the film "The Last Temptation of Christ" is a gateway to world music and I owe him many thanks for putting that record together.
Peter Gabriel 8 days of the week. Love your T-shirt! And the Rutles!
Thank you for wearing a respectably cool pair of shoes for this...
I got an expression pedal several months ago when I got the Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe because some paramaters on some of the delay programs could only be controlled that way. One is the resonant filter delay setting, which is very easy to send into self-oscillating feedback, but you can change the cutoff frequency with the expression pedal to stop it from completely running away, a super cool effect. In general expression control of a delay is really cool. I have the Strymon Volante, and you can set up any combination of parameters to be controlled with an expression pedal (with any range per control) for every preset (stored with the presets). That's super cool also, but somehow I like the quirky, less predictable things that you get with the Catalinbread pedal. About expression pedals themselves, I only have experience with the pretty inexpensive EHX that I bought. It works very well and has nice features, but my only complaint is that the treadle is made of such lightweight plastic that it's VERY difficult to lift your foot off of it without moving it slightly, so it can be hard to set a very precise sound and leave it there.
Peter Gabriel is leagues above Phil Collins in everything except drumming. "So" is indeed a great album, but my favorite is the fourth self-titled solo album (renamed "Security" in the US at least). One of the first albums I heard that prominently featured the Fairlight CMI sampling workstation. It was incredibly primitive digital tech by today's standards (your phone undoubtedly can do better sampling) but it still sounds amazing because it was so well used in the production. It also featured the single "Shock the Monkey", a great song that also got hugely heavy airplay on the nascent MTV, largely because it was rare for any artists to make a video with such high production values then (which again manages to not look dated despite it's primitive tech)
I prefer both you aint gotta choose between Gabriel and Phil. its a big beautiful world and you can love both for different reasons. u know this man!!!
Mad props!👌👍 for mentioning "so" in the record time. As for picking between "Gabriel" and "Collins" that be like picking between my children!.... if I had any?
Phil Collins once played drums for Led Zeppelin. He is a GOLDEN GOD of both the ROCK AND the roll....
Peter Gabriel's 3rd solo record, with Phil on drums!
I like that one even better than So. (They're both great.)
Comment #742:
About 30 years ago, I pulled the delay time pot out of my Ibanez AD-9, put in a 1/8" TRS jack, and put that pot connected to a stereo headphone cord (trashed) into a gutted Maestro Boomerang wah (also trashed). I set the pot for long delays forward. I put stick-on rubber feet at both ends of the throw so it wouldn't click, but found that if I squashed the short side, I got some REALLY cool manual chorusflange type modulation.
Great episode. I bought my first expression pedal recently (I’ve been playing for 40years). I’m on a new journey. Peter Gabriel. Phil was great the first time but don’t care if I never heard another track. So is a quality red wine. Sledgehammer still gives me goosebumps and is on my desert island list. Now let’s plug my Dunlop mini into my Unicorn...
I have nothing to say because you know I always compliment your videos... However, The RUTLES Josh... Bravo Sir... Bravo...
You have achieved another level of cool with the Rutles t.
I saw the spring expression from Lee on reddit a year ago! so so so cool. the diy pedal page is full of guys like that
I have a source audio reflex espression pedal. Having the preset and multiple output options has been really helpful with keeping my use of expression pedals dynamic and fresh. It also has an lfo generator for controlling parameters too. The thing is revolutionary.
My musical exploration began mostly with Peter Gabriel. I heard "So" and I was in heaven with the songwriting and the synthesizer programming. Next I went to all of his earlier solo records and also records he worked on in Genesis, "From Genesis To Revelation" and "Foxtrot." The musicians he worked with later led me to looking for synthesizer heavy music by Larry Fast. I'm still very emotionally fond of the music of Peter Gabriel. I heard his music is on Bandcamp now.
I love your videos josh, honestly, i see a lot of people talking about obsessively getting pedals, and as anti-materialist I am, your videos actually encourage me to get a proper job, so thank you, for better or for worse. :)
Great vid.....very expressive. I would choose Gabriel over Collins - but Phil is certainly also all-time great. He is incredibly under-rated as a drummer....his work with "Brand X" alone exemplifies his greatness as a musician.
Another great episode full of great info. Gabriel's voice is better imo. Nice and raspy. Plus his theatrics on stage are wonderful. The early Genesis stuff was crazy. He was a total freak! 😂
This such an underrated episode (and subject).
"So" it's probably one of the best album EVER.. Peter vs Phil? Peter all the way
Easily
Rutles t-shirt is great. You're right about the Slicer, I call it the "part writer", it writes parts for your song by itself. Love that pedal.
Peter Gabriel anytime ❤️ such a great episode! I knew you would have put the Igor, such a groundbreaking invention
Ah The Rutles. My home town heroes from Liverpool UK. Their manager Leggy Mountbatten was born & lived 2 streets away from me. There was some other imposter beat combo called The Beatles but they were nothing compared to The Rutles. ;) Seriously though Brian Epstein was born 2 streets away from where I'm sitting now. He was born on Rodney Street. I even sent a pic of the house to a friend of mine in California just the other day as she loves The Beatles. The Beatles tourism bus goes past our street too about 10 times a day. Cheers Josh man. ;)
Peter.. but Phil was a monster on drums (early Genesis and Brand X.)
Love the Rutles!
Roland / boss makes an ex pedal.
I'm glad you included the dr scientist bit quest.
Peter Gabriel
"I must be in Luv"
That t-shirt rocks. I love the Rutles as well.
Yeah man ! Thumbs up for the DL4 coverage
I love colors too. Always dig mxr for their simple solid colors...I like the way you do something similar with the addition of a simple, recognizable icon.
Also dig the color choices. So much so that I am going to choose to call them colour choices.
I literally have been looking for an expression pedal for a couple of months and bought one exactly one week ago. It's a Dunlop X volume expression pedal so it's awesome. But, I would have liked to have seen this episode before I bought. Still happy, just funny how life is.
Both Gabriel and Collins are brilliant in their own way.
I agree. It’s weird to see all these comments ‘picking’ one over the other as if it is forced choice! People- you can like cats AND dogs you know
Supra Trem st-1 with the ev-5. Love the control of the whirling Trem for that surf tone without a Trem bar.
I like expression pedal for rotary speaker speed. Also good for a delay or reverb with a "hold" function for a instant pad synth sound underneath your playing.
"hold my hand, yeah, yeah!"
i love the rutles, too!
Peter Gabriel or Phil Collins..... I'm going to have to go with both. When I was a kid they both had hit songs on the radio that were great to sing along to. Both had some crazy music videos. While I haven't listened to the entire catalogs of either I would say that Phil Collins is more accessible to the mainstream if you're wanting to please more people at a party..... but if you wanna get weird and experimental Peter Gabriel is your man. Both have great voices, both are great songwriters.
Peter Gabriel's Melt album is a personal favorite.
Gabriel and Collins were great together, but they hit each of their creative peaks after they went separate ways.
Oh, yeah!!😆 Josh likes it!!! Everything that's beeping,swooshing, whirling, noodling, frozzling, dingeling,hooping!!- That's exactly, what he likes most!! And the stranger it sounds, the better it is!! 😉
I say peter Gabriel all day long ...
Incredible....
That pedal u made w/ the Lesley effect is an amazing expression.. thx Bro ..
Awesome job u do here ...
The star of the show is the $15 M-Audio expression pedal. That thing is amazing!
One of these years, I need to GET an expression pedal.
(Seriously, 20 years of playing, and I have never owned an expression pedal....)
I always thought Phil Collins was the brains and Peter Gabriel was more fluff, but more recently I've come to respect the more subtle brilliance of Gabriel's work. I think I still like Phil Collins more but I'm done feeling like I need to pick between the two. They're both great!
How about an episode dedicated to the Morley Tel-Ray series of chrome pedals.
I like Peter Gabriel better, but it's close. His live show is what gives him the edge. I love expression pedals! This has been on of my favorite episodes.
Rutles! "Ouch! Please don't hurt me. Ouch! don't desert me. Ouch! Ouch, ouch, ooouuuch!"
They both have their strengths and Phil absolutely has had brilliant moments as well, but I'd have to agree that Peter was and is an AMAZING one-of-a-kind vocal artist. Its pretty important to note that Phil was reluctantly thrust into the frontman/lead singer role, it was a role he would have preferred Peter kept as well. All that said, Phil stood on the shoulders of a giant (Peter) and did an outstanding (if somewhat more workmanlike/Detroit) job of it. They can both be very very proud of their careers as musicians.
Peter Gabriel. Amazing stuff. Not sure if it’s the title but “I have the touch” is brilliant.
“Contact” maybe?
Josh do you have an expressionator? You can control 3 effects with one expression pedal and change the sweep of the pedal to go in steps or non linear curves. Some pedals that I didnt like using expression on were awesome with different sweeps.
wow thanks for that helpful info !!
great video as always. as a modular synth user, few things on a pedal make me happier than an expression/CV jack. it's such a technologically simple implementation that it opens up nearly endless possibilities for creating and altering simple voltages. on phil vs peter: sorry if this is a hack answer but if someone tries to force me i can only choose peter as a vocalist and visionary, and phil as a more ordinary (but ~almost equally great) pop writer/producer.
Both Phil and Peter have voices of magic, especially in tandem.
However, Phil is my favorite drummer of all time, so I gotta go with Phil
Phil and Peter are still good friends. Phil played drums on Peter's first solo album after Genesis. Solisbury Hill? Yeah, that's Phil on drums.
Shame
Ray's Music Exchange he played on the first album. Songs like Intruder....but unfortunately did not play on Solsbury Hill
WHY IS YOUR PRODUCTION SO GOOD?