Elektronika MS 7002 keyboard review (Электроника PKB9-2 dual-spring Hall effect)
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Skip to 10:08 for a typing demonstration.
Today we have a look at a really cool Soviet Hall effect keyboard that uses interesting dual-spring, dual-magnet switches. Hope you enjoy!
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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Наука
My dad designed electronics for the Soviet civilian market. He told me that there were acually different standards for civilian electronics, including the fact that double-sided PCB's were limited to the military. But otherwise, they were also copying Western tech.
Great pronunciation of cyrillic words and letters.
Thanks xD .
Да
Yeah, infinitely better than the vast majority of other RUclipsrs.
Well atleast he is pronouncing it with a russian accent
I mean yeah, way better than some
That round ЗП-3 thing in top left corner is a piezo buzzer.
Apparently you can buy one for just 50 rubles!
ЗП-3, Пьезозвонок ... www.chipdip.ru/product/zp-3
A real oddity that (if google translated the page correctly) this type of piezo is AC-powered.
@@pwnmeisterage most piezoelectric actuators technically take AC, because they're just actuators and need to be excited. The above page states this one needs to be driven using AC of a specified amplitude and frequency. Presumably you need to drive it at it's resonant frequency - most piezos can only produce one type of tone
@@evil-wombat ah yes, there are electronic compoments that are also called "piezo buzzers" that have extra circuitry in them so that they emit a tone when powered with DC. they are usually seen as a black cylindrical housing with a hole and two wires sticking out of them.
@@GeorgeTsiros yeah, those exist as well. The pancake design seen here is likely just the piezo element, though
At least it doesnt say АЗ-5
Please review the fish.
Purple Pothos feels like typing on Cherry MY
Feels like typing on the Fold 2000
Nope, internal organs always going into the trash can. I live in Russia, and i never saw someone, who ate the guts from that fish.
Aren't you supposed to burn floating bubble with a lighter and chew on it at least?
Wait, you're right!
The cold war made pressure to the Russians to make pretty badass things, also if mainly military focused. As an example I have two tubes on my music amp that were supposed to be used on the calculator inside some kind of guided missiles! They made quite a bit more of them than needed, so there are still plenty around on the cheap, they are a lot more strongly built than regoular ones, and sound really good, even if they were not made with that purpose!
это которые?
where can buy
@@chiboreache I have the Voskhod 6ZH1P-EV
@@chickenpower5732 I bought them on ebay
@@karellen00 Oh, I have some of these, but not -EV version (that two letters means higher reliability)
Having watched a lot of dashcam car crash compilations I recognized the СТОЛ key as Stop almost immediately.
NLind *СТОП
NLind СТОЛ = Table
СТОП = STOP
Let's add to the confusion even if it differs much in the last letter: СТОЙ is also Stop. But what's the difference in meaning?
RelakSHUN "Стой!" is "Halt!" The meaning is the same as in English.
The words are similar because both come from "cтоять," or "to stand."
Cyrillic is so awesome for English speaking people to develop a slang :D
Also, 3П-3 is a piezoelectric speaker. So your assumption is correct!
youre voice and russian accent is incredible
as russian, i can say only one:
да, голос реально пиз*атый
@@NoscoperSans сглы
Oh, man, there's a similar device gathering dust in the attic of my parents' summer house which I used when I was a kid. It was made in early 80s but I'm sure it still works, since these things were overbuilt to last forever and designed for easy maintenance. I think in that summer house there's a Soviet-made fridge from the 60s which still works just fine. And these layout switching keys - I got used to them and since that time I set up my systems so that a single press on left Ctlr switches to RUS and right Ctlr switches to LAT layout.
What am i doing with my life. In sitting in the parking lot, waiting for the Atlanta Mechanical Keyboard Meetup to start, and I'm looking at more keyboards. 🤔
I would ask why are you even going to such meetups...
Sithhy because they are fun(?)
+Sithhy
I mean, why are we here on this video?
8:50 ФСБ button lol
Это чтобы сразу их вызывать
@@chizhov_leonid А чё, удобно. А то я вот уже который год анекдоты про Путина рассказываю в полный голос, и напившись пою американский гимн, а они всё не приходют и не приходют
Wow, your voice is so pleasing to listen to !
I'm not even that interested in keyboards but damn, your show is great !
Keep it up man !
Thanks :) .
А ну, чики-брики и в дамки!!
Приятно знать, что есть люди из RU комьюнити у ж этого чувака.
@@user-hv1cg8tt3i Чувак офигенный , благодаря ему узнал о легендарной ibm model m
Haha I know right!?
@@yanwhite5407 ну, IBM Model M - не такой уж и раритет, чтоб не знать о ней. Но вот о существовании овердофига других свичей я даже не подозревал.
Whenever I watch your vids and you don't at least say NICE one time I feel like I am missing something. Keep up the Nice work!
NOICE.
You're the best man. Love your channel and all of your videos.
Another great video keep it up. High qualitg review as usual.
Those marks on the key caps are tide lines which come from flowing or shooting the plastic when it is not up to temp or shooting into cold molds. You see this on colored model kits, toys, cheap pcs/cases etc.
What an awesome keyboard!!! Forget the typing, this beast could easily survive an EMP or a nuclear attack! Great review.I wonder if after this review Corsair Kingston and logitech will began to test electromagnetic keyboards. that would be interesting. : )
Matias K haha no way, they aren't interested in making good or quality products, I think :p .
Ура! Спасибо за обзор :)
Чиросьдруг22))
сукаблят
Velorum no.
Poble and v damki
Cyka blyat
друг
брат
@@lugi7372 svaboda, vada, lada, stahlker, salyris, vintorez?
@@GeorgeTsiros sandvich.
@@lugi7372 make me stroooongk
In Soviet Russia, keyboards review you
Man old keyboards had the coolest keycaps, I wish I could get some of these for a modern key switches.
Robotron A5120 used a very similar tech. Being a model M lover and checking the keyboards always being the first thing I check on 8/16bit machines I feel I can happily subscribe to this channel.
I love old Soviet computer stuff. That's also an awesome looking terminal. That round think will be a beeper.
First time watching you and like you videos very much!
Thanks :) .
You're saying "Электроника" sooo good! Great review
Thanks :) .
That pronunciation was actually pretty good, cheers mate
After hearing your pronunciation of "Электроника", I am seriously rethinking my heterosexuality.
something great to wake up to.
that soundsample at the end was golden
Etiketa just means label btw :)
Great video as always, always love hall effects
Thats realy funny bcs in dutch its etiket
MISTER
I speak some Dutch. It is my grandmothers heritage. And etiket does not mean label at all. Auf wiedersehen! (See, I know Dutch fluently).
Jame Gumb haha
@@MisterCOM also "etichetta" in Italian
I'd really like to see that one fixed up in a bespoke case and working.
Очень хороший обзор!
Like for your pronunciation :)
Hello and welcome to this review of the Chyrosran 22.
The "battery holder" is in fact a 4.1 KHz piezo transducer: www.chipdip.ru/product/zp-3
Re: Brass content, I would guess PCB traces account for some of it.
A typical Soviet PCB would start out as a sheet of textolite coated with brass on both sides. If you were a DIYer working from your home or garage, you could etch it with a sharp scalpel.
Re: ВР and СДВ, I believe the smaller, awkwardly positioned key would be Caps Lock, and the dual, wider keys would be Shift.
9:36 Yeap, that round thing is a speacker. "ЗП-3" is abbreviation for "Зуммер Пьезоэлектрический" (Piezoelectric Buzzer)...IDK what 3 means - could be model, size or frequency of the generated audio signal.
Nice video. Now if you can do a comparison with a US and UK military keyboard, and then do an audible decode to see which one was the easiest to determine which keys were being pressed. Out of a zillion keypresses I make on my laptop on the other side of the house, my son knows when I am typing 192.168... to turn on parental controls when he has not done his chores.
It's a Russian small speaker for midi-like sounds there in the corner. I saw one of these in a mini-electronic game which had a display with liquid crystals fabricated in early 90's.
I wonder if that word on the card is actually copper and not brass. It'd make a lot more sense that way.
Elektronika didn't only made this masterpiece but also...
a exact copy of Nintendo's Game&Watch. This was the same console, but except Nintendo's original games you could play the one where a Wolf from the soviet "Nu, pagadi! " cartoon catches eggs. This was pretty popular in communistic Poland, where everyone used to call it "Russian eggs (Ruskie jajka)". To this day, you still can buy this console, but the price is around 110$ on polish auction sites.
That roman keyboard layout is... interesting, quite curious if I get used to it though, how weird could it be.
In what wayis it not better to send fish already gutted? My only experience is with trout tbh but its not that hard to gut and I feel like it would preserve way better without the gut
cant wait for someone to make a copy that uses mx style switches. r/mk please. I NEEDS IT
+Chyrosran22 have you ever had the chance to try out any of the old keyboards from the Pravetz 8-series computers? They have really interesting looking keycaps, and the switches seem to be some proprietary Soviet-Bloc switches. I'd love to pick one up on Ebay to play with but its an awfully useless toy :P
Imagine playing Metro 2033 on this
Спасибо, любопытно было увидеть)
4:06 I believe the technical term is “Tetris mount.”
Damn, this is pretty cool. Waay different from everything else! :D
Are there any manufacturers/suppliers out there that make keyboard modules these days, like there were in the late 70s/early 80s?
Not sure why there would be. You don't see a lot of mono-block computers these days. Closest thing I imagine is buying a PCB by itself, which is something some keyboard enthusiasts do.
ALTHOUGH there are drop-in PCB replacements for old Amiga and C64 keyboards, so there's that.
I like the sound of it...
Hmm, what is better? Smith Corona leaf spring, or pine black alps? I dunno I think smith corona leaf spring is better.
It's strange that, outside of the wedge computers of the 80s (Atari 800, C64 and the like) I can't remember the last time I've seen a fully integrated unit like that monster terminal.
That circular component at the upper left looks to me like a piezo beeper.
The symbol replacing the "$" was dubbed "eared ruble" in Czechoslovakia.
The one on the 4 key?
Funny enough, I was looking to see what the Soviet era ruble symbol one was, and apparently there wasn't one. Seems the Russians didn't make a symbol until 2013 (₽).
that title is so exciting
Those are some good looking keycaps though!
What a cool keyboard, and those are really beautiful keycaps. But what a strange economy the USSR had. It was fascinating just learning about things like the metal composition list and the bits that were copied from the West. Those non-stabilized keys look terrible, but besides the spacebar the keys sound quite nice.
amazing! cпасибо!
My grandmother was involved in reverse-engineering the PCB manufacturing process of the circuit boards on the U2 spy plane that crashed over there (we're russian). She met their designer - my (american) step dad's uncle - when my parents married. She talked about the different kinds of materials used - different compositions of fiberglass / FR4.
Yeah, the circle thing looks like a basic buzzer. Handy for making shrill beep sounds.
what is a good quite mechanical keyboard that isnt cherry?
This is my first time on this channel and OH MY GOODNESS THE VOICE O_O
Nice!
pretty cool, that's a squeaky space bar
6:30 - Noooiiiice
The round thing in the corner is a fairly typical Russian buzzer / beeper. I'm guessing it's used as the terminal bell. Your pronunciation is surprisingly decent.
wow, that's a good keys! do you ever consider converting it to modern pc's?
pressing the escape key is wired directly to the KGB
Can you please review outemu blue switches???
They're basically MX blue switches except louder.
That disk in the top corner is possibly a piezo beeper
2:04 The date on the "etiketka" is 04:20 😊
Годнота
Please review a HHKB keyboard.
Already did! :)
Now the question everybody's asking: can it be connected to a PC? In ANY way?
Of course. It will require some (or a lot of) retro-engineering, but yes, of course it's possible.
i love your voice
take a sharpie to a mx stem and see if they fit
Dunno about your 'pronunciation' but your accent is *_n o y y c e._*
Pretty legit 'review' too _;)_
It's a speaker I reckon, I bet it makes a great cold war military alert sound.
That fish jerky actually tastes really good.
The Soviet equivalent to the TRS-80 Model 4!
произношение огонь)
But can it game
9:40 I’m fairly sure that’s a speaker. Could be wrong.
I rate this video - заебись!
but , can i gamin it?
"these keycaps would have lasted forever, at least" :)
годнота
Отечество тобой гордится, товарищ!
There's this topre clone 60 percent made by plum that I just came across on their website, seems like a cheap alternative to an hhkb, which is the only other 60 percent (unless you count the fc660c but that's a bit bigger) www.nizkeyboard.com/product/niz-2018-new-member-atom66-the-smallest-electro-capactive-bluetooth-keyboard-with-rgb/
Мир, труд, май! Thanks for the review, T!
Glad you liked it :) .
Can you review a Cherry MX Brown keyboard, daddy voice?
Already did :p .
Chyrosran22 its never enough
You just wanna torture him, admit it.
Last Second Bloomer I think we all secretly enjoy seeing him suffer even though we love him very much
I wonder if lube would help Cherry browns as much as it helped your older hall effect switches... I don't mind them too much, but with SA caps, the function row can feel slightly bind-y.
Stalker play the best with that keyboard.
In Soviet Russia, keyboard types YOU !
Wow, you're like an archaeologist!
Sounds very close to Fallout 3 terminal keyboard
Shoud have eaten the fish. Still a great review)
Just a perfect noice 6:30
Наконец-то
Sad Frog blyat
You must know some Ruskies... Nice video!