A lady i follow in the mountains of Wyoming created a microclimate by having dark grey buildings and black planters up against the buildings facing the way she gets the most sun to hold the heat and it worked. She was able to grow things she wasn’t before
David the Good has some good videos to start with for anyone who is interested in how to begin. He breaks it all down and makes it easy and fun. He is a grower in the South, but his concepts can translate to northern hemisphere. We’re going to use his methods on our homestead next Spring.
@@libertyandjustus8258 he is truly amazing! I was falling into analysis paralysis with the permaculture concept for our homestead and then I found his video on food forest the easy way and got excited about it all over again.
I started my foodforest in 2017 and it's one of the best things I've done. A wonderful place to stay in a good complement of food, especially spring and autumn. Inger Cesar, Sweden
great video. taking stress off the food system reminds me of the victory gardens during WWII. then it was common and normal to grow as much of your food as you could. now, we have to convince people to try to garden
Took our 5 out of the matrix and teaching them all of this. People can’t believe how incredible they are. We adopted them so we know it’s just our big God!! Amazing talk!!
Excellent chat. In my suburban yard I have peaches, plums, cherries, apples, crabapples, pears, raspberries of different varieties, blackberries, blackcurrants, gooseberries, grapes, strawberries, rhubarb and asparagus. I also have annuals, herbs, flowers and still have lawn to enjoy it from. It’s amazing how closely they can all be planted, especially if you use espalier. None of it takes much work once established.
I agree 👍💯. Making food locally especially sustainable food is a under appreciated knowledge that I’ve studied sone on but admit I do the old way by tilling digging holes and planting. I mix horse and worm castings with my soil but do not use GMO anything nor do I use pesticides . I grow organically without the bureaucracy sticker saying certified . This sounds like the guy that has the garden called Eden on You Tube but he grows similar to how you layer his system one thjng feeds another or shades this while it grows its very interesting and i plan to educate myself more . Thank you guys for doing this because it is not only healthier but less expensive by far in the long run . Win win . Joel Salitain has a great system running laying chickens over large herd small tract grazing for heavy fertilized by manure pastures . The chickens come behind the cows in 3 days eat the fly larvae making healthier eggs and less insects healthier cows and more nutrients in the meat . This is cools stuff . 💯💯🐷
Vacant lots could also be community gardens if the city wanted to invest a little to amend the soil. I love the idea. I'd be happy to donate extra seed (because I ALWAY buy too much and there's no 12 step program for seed hoarders...lol)
I am doing this on an in town property, off a main street, less than an acre with a small creek running through it and with a cell tower in the back yard. I have 7 blueberry bushes, three varieties of plums, 4 of apples, three of pears, 11 of figs, two of persimmons, 5 of muscadines, two of grapes, kiwi berry, and one chestnut so far. Let alone my year round annual production in north central Alabama, and I am still looking at put in more such as more nuts, cherries, paw paws and more berry fines. It is amazing how much you can grow on a small area. Plus less I have to mow.
Sounds like the idea could be used indoors as well, perhaps starting with a small fish tank as the bottom layer and working up from there and using grow lights for those that don't have outdoor space.
Loved your comment on the garden of Eden Josh! I was saying the same thing! It goes to show how we still today have the deep longing for what was supposed to be. Abundance in the presence of our Creator!
We already have several orchards on our homestead and I love the idea of creating a food forest around them, but I'm concerned about how we would prune the fruit trees with berry bushes nearby. Maybe the layout of those plantings is more practical than what I'm picturing in my head!?! 💕
From what I've seen from David the Good and others, the fruit trees in food forests are grown to be lower than fruit trees grow naturally....making the branches spread out low more like a grape vine. This makes the fruit easier to reach, and branches are low enough to prune more easily.
But we went from good cooking to shipping in packaged foods mostly microwaved in school cafeterias- as a teacher i saw and never let my children buy food (correction: in MA FREE breakfast and lunches😡)
@@prayerwarrior424I agree. The title 1 schools have it the worst. It is NOT food. Free breakfast would be “honeybun and chocolate milk.”😵💫It’s horrific and the children of this generation are already becoming chronically ill from poor nutrition and obesity.
My husband and I have been talking about planting a food forest for several years. He is convinced that we need to "build up the soil" BEFORE this method can work. For contacts we live in a very sandy area. Is he correct?
We planted raspberries beyond the woods and blueberries at the edge of the trees on the front lawn. In each case even with netting, rabbits, snakes, and squirrels beat us to them!😢
Could you do one of your shows on things that I can eat and the deer will not. If you don't keep it fenced out here you don't get to have any. The deer even eat the squirrels
Confuse them with fishing line. Use poles/trees to wrap the line up, down, here, there, crooked, diagonal and doubled. It worked very well for us and it’s cheap.
On living traditions homestead-Kevin demonstrates how they fence an entire acre with 2-( I think it’s 4 foot fences) spaced 2 feet apart. In the eight years they have lived in the Missouri Ozarks. The deer have never jumped the fence to go into the orchards, or eat their garden, because they have poor depth perception and won’t jump double fencing. We live in Southwest Pennsylvania and for the first time in 25 years-the deer jumped our 6 foot fence in July,- 1 time ever in 30 years they entered the garden early, and ate and ate and ate!! We expect this after harvest when it gets really cold at the end of November, but never in July has this happened! I didn’t get any rhubarb this year because they ate the rhubarb leaves??-(which seemed odd to me, because I thought they were toxic?)-they are eating morning glories, which they never ate before- typically they are just eating like pigs and it’s been a stressful gardening year! A couple years ago, my husband build a long strip of tomato beds outside of the main garden and then had to fence it in on the three ends -that didn’t share the garden fence. They never go in there, so I’m thinking that maybe Kevin is correct!- they won’t jump a double fence! Next season we are going to try the double fence method in both of our fenced gardens. so we’re gonna do this next year and give it a try !
We have hay field grass, wild sorrel, and Mallow with 2 1/2 foot roots. I would love to understand how to manage those types of weeds in a food forrest. If I mulch to keep the weeds down, how can I grow anything? Maybe til the area first so the weeds come up smaller? This is the missing piece in my food forrest attempts. Maybe a future chat? Thanks.
As your food forest grows, things like that won't want to be there as much. They're serving a purpose. I pull the grass until things get established, then just rip off the top layer and drop it.
ABSOLUTELY!!! And they have sprayed asian jumping worms- saw these on the plastic over one if my raised beds- total infestation this summer. Never saw before in north east!
My ground is very rocky so planting in the ground is difficult. We get invested every Spring with grasshoppers, and they eat everything that I plant in raised beds. I put up a small plastic greenhouse to seal out the grasshoppers but Summer is too hot and everything died. I plan to try again this Fall after the grasshoppers disappear.
Can u have a couple ducks or chickens? They would be happy to gobble up grasshoppers. I'm gonna fence In my garden area next year and let the ducks in on occasion to keep the bugs down.
Don't do it if you don't have an unlimited supply of time on your hands, an access to cheap laborers, a tiny stamp sized garden and, last but not least, strong memory. This good-on-a-screen approach will drive you crazy if you try it without the things I mentioned above.
You would maybe harvest 10% of the food here unless you fence it. By the way, the traditional garden has been around for hundreds of years. And all of a sudden it's the devil and is killing the soil. Tell that to our grandparents and great grandparents who survived off their gardens for years and years. Not taking away from food forests, but you can promote that without trying to demonize row crop gardens.
A lady i follow in the mountains of Wyoming created a microclimate by having dark grey buildings and black planters up against the buildings facing the way she gets the most sun to hold the heat and it worked. She was able to grow things she wasn’t before
David the Good has some good videos to start with for anyone who is interested in how to begin. He breaks it all down and makes it easy and fun. He is a grower in the South, but his concepts can translate to northern hemisphere. We’re going to use his methods on our homestead next Spring.
David the Good is doing a class on School of Traditional Skills this week.
@@libertyandjustus8258 he is truly amazing! I was falling into analysis paralysis with the permaculture concept for our homestead and then I found his video on food forest the easy way and got excited about it all over again.
I started my foodforest in 2017 and it's one of the best things I've done. A wonderful place to stay in a good complement of food, especially spring and autumn.
Inger Cesar, Sweden
great video. taking stress off the food system reminds me of the victory gardens during WWII. then it was common and normal to grow as much of your food as you could. now, we have to convince people to try to garden
So true. I pray God will continue to move on people’s hearts to do it! It’s happening.
Took our 5 out of the matrix and teaching them all of this. People can’t believe how incredible they are. We adopted them so we know it’s just our big God!!
Amazing talk!!
Excellent chat. In my suburban yard I have peaches, plums, cherries, apples, crabapples, pears, raspberries of different varieties, blackberries, blackcurrants, gooseberries, grapes, strawberries, rhubarb and asparagus. I also have annuals, herbs, flowers and still have lawn to enjoy it from. It’s amazing how closely they can all be planted, especially if you use espalier. None of it takes much work once established.
I so agree about dropping a zone. We're 8b here and we've hit single digits the last 4 years. I play like I'm zone 9 and plan like I'm zone 7.
I agree 👍💯. Making food locally especially sustainable food is a under appreciated knowledge that I’ve studied sone on but admit I do the old way by tilling digging holes and planting. I mix horse and worm castings with my soil but do not use GMO anything nor do I use pesticides . I grow organically without the bureaucracy sticker saying certified . This sounds like the guy that has the garden called Eden on You Tube but he grows similar to how you layer his system one thjng feeds another or shades this while it grows its very interesting and i plan to educate myself more . Thank you guys for doing this because it is not only healthier but less expensive by far in the long run . Win win . Joel Salitain has a great system running laying chickens over large herd small tract grazing for heavy fertilized by manure pastures . The chickens come behind the cows in 3 days eat the fly larvae making healthier eggs and less insects healthier cows and more nutrients in the meat . This is cools stuff . 💯💯🐷
Cities could plant tress and vines with food along boulevards to feed those in need.
Vacant lots could also be community gardens if the city wanted to invest a little to amend the soil. I love the idea. I'd be happy to donate extra seed (because I ALWAY buy too much and there's no 12 step program for seed hoarders...lol)
But “smart cities” is a much better idea 😆. Just kidding…
Let’s get growing!!!!
Loving this conversation! Ready to implement!!!
I am doing this on an in town property, off a main street, less than an acre with a small creek running through it and with a cell tower in the back yard. I have 7 blueberry bushes, three varieties of plums, 4 of apples, three of pears, 11 of figs, two of persimmons, 5 of muscadines, two of grapes, kiwi berry, and one chestnut so far. Let alone my year round annual production in north central Alabama, and I am still looking at put in more such as more nuts, cherries, paw paws and more berry fines. It is amazing how much you can grow on a small area. Plus less I have to mow.
Sounds like the idea could be used indoors as well, perhaps starting with a small fish tank as the bottom layer and working up from there and using grow lights for those that don't have outdoor space.
Loved your comment on the garden of Eden Josh! I was saying the same thing! It goes to show how we still today have the deep longing for what was supposed to be. Abundance in the presence of our Creator!
🌸;)great video!!!! Thanks
This sounds like the best answer most obvious answer ever
We always need bear and deer protection as a priority when planting anything!
Here our summer is extreme, so I tend to look for plants that can tolerate more heat than is generally recommended here.
I'm in the middle of the Mojave Desert. There isn't much that grows natively around here except sage brush and creosote.
Andrew Millison also has videos on growing in drought conditions
Jeff Lawton Greening the Desert
We already have several orchards on our homestead and I love the idea of creating a food forest around them, but I'm concerned about how we would prune the fruit trees with berry bushes nearby. Maybe the layout of those plantings is more practical than what I'm picturing in my head!?! 💕
From what I've seen from David the Good and others, the fruit trees in food forests are grown to be lower than fruit trees grow naturally....making the branches spread out low more like a grape vine. This makes the fruit easier to reach, and branches are low enough to prune more easily.
Schools also waste a lot of food!
And most homes in America, if we're honest. 🤷♀️
I work in a school Cafeteria and I see soooo much waste! It's unreal!
But we went from good cooking to shipping in packaged foods mostly microwaved in school cafeterias- as a teacher i saw and never let my children buy food (correction: in MA FREE breakfast and lunches😡)
@@prayerwarrior424I agree. The title 1 schools have it the worst. It is NOT food. Free breakfast would be “honeybun and chocolate milk.”😵💫It’s horrific and the children of this generation are already becoming chronically ill from poor nutrition and obesity.
Solar farms are inefficient and harmful to ecosystems also create reflective high heat in the lower atmosphere, which creates severe weather
My husband and I have been talking about planting a food forest for several years. He is convinced that we need to "build up the soil" BEFORE this method can work. For contacts we live in a very sandy area. Is he correct?
We planted raspberries beyond the woods and blueberries at the edge of the trees on the front lawn. In each case even with netting, rabbits, snakes, and squirrels beat us to them!😢
Domestic rabbits will scare off wild rabbits. Cats will kill snakes and squirrels…
Could you do one of your shows on things that I can eat and the deer will not. If you don't keep it fenced out here you don't get to have any. The deer even eat the squirrels
I battle deer pressure and bears!
Confuse them with fishing line. Use poles/trees to wrap the line up, down, here, there, crooked, diagonal and doubled. It worked very well for us and it’s cheap.
On living traditions homestead-Kevin demonstrates how they fence an entire acre with 2-( I think it’s 4 foot fences) spaced 2 feet apart.
In the eight years they have lived in the Missouri Ozarks. The deer have never jumped the fence to go into the orchards, or eat their garden, because they have poor depth perception and won’t jump double fencing.
We live in Southwest Pennsylvania and for the first time in 25 years-the deer jumped our 6 foot fence in July,- 1 time ever in 30 years they entered the garden early, and ate and ate and ate!!
We expect this after harvest when it gets really cold at the end of November, but never in July has this happened!
I didn’t get any rhubarb this year because they ate the rhubarb leaves??-(which seemed odd to me, because I thought they were toxic?)-they are eating morning glories, which they never ate before- typically they are just eating like pigs and it’s been a stressful gardening year!
A couple years ago, my husband build a long strip of tomato beds outside of the main garden and then had to fence it in on the three ends -that didn’t share the garden fence. They never go in there, so I’m thinking that maybe Kevin is correct!- they won’t jump a double fence!
Next season we are going to try the double fence method in both of our fenced gardens.
so we’re gonna do this next year and give it a try !
I found they don't like the smell of basil and holy basil.
@@spoolsandbobbins. What if they get all tangled up in it and you can’t get it off of them?
💚Josh and Carolyn, we are looking forward to your School of Traditional Skills ( free online classes ) this Monday and this week❤
We have hay field grass, wild sorrel, and Mallow with 2 1/2 foot roots. I would love to understand how to manage those types of weeds in a food forrest. If I mulch to keep the weeds down, how can I grow anything? Maybe til the area first so the weeds come up smaller? This is the missing piece in my food forrest attempts. Maybe a future chat? Thanks.
Mallow is a great pollinator bush.
As your food forest grows, things like that won't want to be there as much. They're serving a purpose. I pull the grass until things get established, then just rip off the top layer and drop it.
At my age I don’t want berry bushes that need much trimming or that multiply if their branches touch the ground.
What about chem trail poisoning?
ABSOLUTELY!!! And they have sprayed asian jumping worms- saw these on the plastic over one if my raised beds- total infestation this summer. Never saw before in north east!
We pray over our skies all tge time- taking the authority Christ took back and gave to US- and we’ve seen such a difference. No more chemtrails…
It's contrail... (condensation-trail)
@@tims6232 Seriously? They admit they're geoengineering. It's not a secret.
My ground is very rocky so planting in the ground is difficult. We get invested every Spring with grasshoppers, and they eat everything that I plant in raised beds. I put up a small plastic greenhouse to seal out the grasshoppers but Summer is too hot and everything died. I plan to try again this Fall after the grasshoppers disappear.
Can u have a couple ducks or chickens? They would be happy to gobble up grasshoppers.
I'm gonna fence In my garden area next year and let the ducks in on occasion to keep the bugs down.
Shade cloth and vents may help w the heat inside the greenhouse can also help. Bucket gardens are pretty effective, but you have to water quite a lot.
Pick up some fabric tulle and cover your beds with garden nails to hold it down to keep the insects out.
Make lots and lots of compost. Hard work but do-able!
Boo to solar farms!
How do you keep the rodents out?
🐶 🙀
Don't do it if you don't have an unlimited supply of time on your hands, an access to cheap laborers, a tiny stamp sized garden and, last but not least, strong memory. This good-on-a-screen approach will drive you crazy if you try it without the things I mentioned above.
You would maybe harvest 10% of the food here unless you fence it. By the way, the traditional garden has been around for hundreds of years. And all of a sudden it's the devil and is killing the soil. Tell that to our grandparents and great grandparents who survived off their gardens for years and years. Not taking away from food forests, but you can promote that without trying to demonize row crop gardens.
We are under attack for being self sufficient...stay viligent.