Hard Lessons on Successful Seed Starting

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @k.p.1139
    @k.p.1139 10 месяцев назад +28

    Here in Florida, we are under a wind chill advisory, AND, in 3 days, we are supposed to be in the 80's. According to our extension office, we should have already planted our corn, and melons. For those of us in the South, we need to work backwards over most of the country. Learning about ideal temps for the things we want to grow, is really our first step. Like, once it reaches X temps, tomatoes WILL NOT set fruit. Unless you have heat specific plants. Also, buying seeds closer to home! I have spent SO MUCH money on seeds that were grown up N, to have a full garden failure. Gary- at Tomato Fest has their seeds actually in groups where you can just pick your area and that knocks out a lot of new-gardener problems. For us, we need to look ahead for the heat, and pick veggies that will be done by X date, so that we are not wasting everything by watering plants that can only just sit and exist.

    • @christinehbailey
      @christinehbailey 10 месяцев назад +1

      We just moved to North Florida a year ago from Maine! It’s definitely been a learning adventure! 😂 I did just order seeds from Hoss thinking they are probably closest to us. Praying this year is so much better!!

    • @kelly70yllek
      @kelly70yllek 10 месяцев назад

      What's Tomato Fest?

    • @ladyryan902
      @ladyryan902 10 месяцев назад +2

      Boy is that the truth..central here..its currently 52 in the sun. 47 in gardens with shade😢 I'm at the beach. Last 2 yrs I had tomatoes going over the holidays this year's it's weirdly cold

    • @louiseswart1315
      @louiseswart1315 10 месяцев назад

      Here in South Africa in the Southwestern inland, we have desert conditions in midsummer(34-44°C daytime highs; 20-25 nighttime lows) with very low humidity.. None of my seed packet information works for me here, because I don't use a cooled greenhouse. All seedlings are leggy because I have to keep them indoors(it is much too hot close to a window), that is if they germinate at all. I had success germinating cucumbers, spaghetti squash, courgettes, tomatoes, peppers, swiss chard, beets, rocket and basil. No fruits grow at all. They drop off, but that is OK as the mature plants will produce immediately when the temperatures lower to less extreme. My concern is that I cannot germinate the summer lettuces, dill coriander, parsley, carrots or flowers to attract bees and other pollinators.
      It begins to look like here we have a very early short summer season with a dormant spell until early autumn.

    • @k.p.1139
      @k.p.1139 10 месяцев назад +1

      @louiseswart1315 ok, it sounds like you are to warm for cold weather crops.
      All of those you spoke us is near impossible for me to grow.

  • @garyc.foster1132
    @garyc.foster1132 10 месяцев назад +19

    Northern Wyoming here. I have all my seeds now and I will be starting the onions by Feb. 1!
    I do not have ideal conditions, ie: no place to set up grow lights, heat mats, etc. I have been setting my pots in my windowsills for decades and I make it work. I know the "experts" say never do that, but you have to work with what you have. I do have a small greenhouse that I use for hardening off.

  • @Minnehaha64
    @Minnehaha64 10 месяцев назад +5

    I know the Lord.led me to Rick's RUclips channel last December. I was concerned about how much I was spending on nursery plants. At the same time, I had struggled in the past to keep my young seedlings alive. So I signed up for his whole seed starting workshop. Oh my! What an amazing class! He is a very good teacher. And he takes you step by step so you won't be overwhelmed with information. I did OKAY last year with my seedlings; I definitely didn't buy very many plants!! But I anticipate an even better year in 2024! I'm also experimenting with winter sowing. So if I end up with too many starts, I'm certain someone will take them!

  • @RoseFelton
    @RoseFelton 10 месяцев назад +6

    I have followed Rick Stone for the past year and I watched his Seed Starting class on STS. I have started some seeds already and they are doing much better than in the past. It is very worth the money to join STS just for his class alone, but there are so many other great classes to learn from as well. I highly recommend School of Traditional Skills!!

  • @HeatherNaturaly
    @HeatherNaturaly 10 месяцев назад +3

    I did something different last year, that worked really well. I started my seeds inside as usual, but as soon as they germinated I put them outside every day it was above 40F. I set an alarm to bring them inside around 4pm. They grew really well and did not require hardening off when they went into the ground. It was an experiment, and I do not have a huge garden, so it was not a chore with hundreds of seedlings.

    • @jennbasil
      @jennbasil 10 месяцев назад +1

      I do this too but stick with 50f. I leave them out all night too, as long as it stays above 50. Works great! I agree with you!

  • @amandabass9712
    @amandabass9712 10 месяцев назад +6

    I'm new. I like chit chat especially right now. I am working up to having my own home and I WILL have a greenhouse and design my yard/landscape with homesteading in mind.
    Regarding fruit trees, I hope to learn how to manage their size so they don't become overwhelming for me. However, having free-range livestock (during controlled times, etc) (poultry, beef) can help manage the over abundance that falls. I want to have a fairly large pond and streams to circulate water and use for the property. Anyway... Big ideas and trying to prep for success expecting that I'll have trial and error to get there.

    • @Romans15.32
      @Romans15.32 10 месяцев назад +1

      Dreaming big is good. I'm happy for you.

  • @cherylhecht6038
    @cherylhecht6038 10 месяцев назад +3

    My experience is that we are tricking the plant with artificial light, and then when I harden them off and then plant them if the natural outdoor light is not the same as the amount of light I had given them indoors, the seedlings growth stalls and it acts as if it has transplant shock. I have learned to set my lighting timer to the natural light cycle to assist transplants in getting off to a good start.

  • @workinonit9562
    @workinonit9562 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am in NE Ohio and am a lazy gardener, I have now started my tomatoes in trays with potting soil from the Amish store. Once they are up and it looks like they need a pot I take the healthiest one and pot them up, save for me and give away. I use a seed mat then move them to a rack with grow lights. This has been the best way for me for the last few years.

  • @dhansonranch
    @dhansonranch 10 месяцев назад +3

    For the most part, I have moved away from using pure seed starting mix as I find it too fine. It is primarily moss and therefore the water is tougher to regulate. For the most part, I use an organic potting soil for the larger seeds and for the finer seeds, I fill the pot 3/4 potting mix and 1/4 seed starting on the surface. Works great for me. And should you forget to water it is much easier to rehydrate the hydrophobic mix. Good chat.

    • @mairzydotes3548
      @mairzydotes3548 10 месяцев назад +1

      I do the same and do not pot up.

  • @gayleasche9547
    @gayleasche9547 10 месяцев назад +2

    I love it that we are already talking seed starting. Appreciate the wisdom

  • @saundradeichert6361
    @saundradeichert6361 10 месяцев назад +1

    That love Crunch!!! So delicious. Praying for comfort and quick healing.

  • @marythomson5958
    @marythomson5958 10 месяцев назад +4

    Just wanted to say thanks for this chat, this was super helpful! So many youtube tutorials just stick seeds in some soil, water it, and tell you that's it. This addressed a lot of things I was unsure of, thank you!

  • @melodywright2276
    @melodywright2276 10 месяцев назад +2

    Good Morning y'all
    Nw Indiana
    Snow for a long time.
    Here to learn
    Second year gardener.

  • @catherine6802
    @catherine6802 10 месяцев назад +5

    This is an excellent video. I knew much of this in bits and pieces but you cinched it all together for us. Much of what you taught helped us realize some things we've been doing wrong. Thank you!

  • @KerryHanslits
    @KerryHanslits 10 месяцев назад +3

    Love you guys

  • @InvisibleCitizen
    @InvisibleCitizen 10 месяцев назад +3

    I like the idea of sterile seedling soil then hardening them off slowly if possible. Exposing the to the environment they will grow up in including both weather and the garden soil. Great video!

  • @kimr4005
    @kimr4005 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is great info for the new growers. I have moved to all winter sowing and love it. It’s almost hands off.

  • @krstinwright8540
    @krstinwright8540 10 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to see your routine with homeschooling on the homestead and your knowledge on it

  • @cynthiawhitcomb1780
    @cynthiawhitcomb1780 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for all the information

  • @ursinidaho
    @ursinidaho 10 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you! Very timely and interesting.

  • @ensabahnur7657
    @ensabahnur7657 10 месяцев назад +1

    Grand Rising Family, hope all's well & thanks for sharing all great info with us! BE BLESSED! HALLELUJAH! PRAISE.......YAH!🙏💖🐢

  • @scubahealer
    @scubahealer 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @thewolfethatcould8878
    @thewolfethatcould8878 10 месяцев назад +2

    I SO appreciate you both. I have learned a vast amount of very useful homesteading information from you over the years. I try to attend all of the free online webcasts that you produce and one day I pray I win a lifetime membership. You truly have provided us all with at least a lifetime of valuable resources and knowledge. Keep up the great work, you and your school/classes are true treasures! 🌻

  • @lcm0578
    @lcm0578 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the idea of pouring the water out of the seed trays after and hour and the fan idea.

  • @marywysocki6641
    @marywysocki6641 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's been very cold here in Springfield Missouri, and I have been in the hospital. I just celebrated my birthday

  • @nydiamarcial3844
    @nydiamarcial3844 10 месяцев назад

    Yes, here in southern Florida we need to make sure you grow only what’s grows here in Florida.

  • @KatrinaM1234
    @KatrinaM1234 10 месяцев назад

    In MN, I am trying to overwinter my peppers so I may actually get some this year. My seasons are so short I usually only get babies. You can overwinter tomatoes too, but they are very different processes.

  • @Autumnh141983
    @Autumnh141983 10 месяцев назад

    First thing I did when buying our 10 acres was that I got my orchard planted, and the perennial food plants. Mainly berries.

  • @veronicaavsec6808
    @veronicaavsec6808 10 месяцев назад +1

    I sprinkle cinnamon on top of my soil and that helps with mold etc

  • @sukeyfrugalfrau
    @sukeyfrugalfrau 10 месяцев назад +1

    Our outside planting date is June 1 here in NE Vermont…

  • @sharpland
    @sharpland 10 месяцев назад +1

    We share this wherever we think it's valuable. PRO-MIX Premium Organic Garden Mix along with some added perlite/vermiculite has proven to the be the best seed starting mix available for retail purchase. Most years, we just don't have enough homegrown compost to make enough to start all of our seeds. This stuff fills the gaps, and if bought at the right time of year is very affordable.

  • @Romans15.32
    @Romans15.32 10 месяцев назад +1

    In the chat - We have those areas of pile ups, doesn't everyone? I worked on one yesterday.

  • @louiseswart1315
    @louiseswart1315 10 месяцев назад +1

    I wish I could get tips and dos and don'ts seeding mistakes for desert conditions. I've been struggling with certain veg that are supposedly germinating in summer since October here in South Africa(equivalent to April to July northern hemisphere).

  • @lynnchastain8224
    @lynnchastain8224 10 месяцев назад

    Great video.

  • @jackieow
    @jackieow 10 месяцев назад

    If you soak seeds overnight before planting, little nicks in the seed coat can release starch and sugars to be lost in the soaking water, so it is gone before you plant. Less food base for the fungi and bacteria when you plant the next day. And, presoaked seeds don't have to imbibe water so they have a head start of a few hours. This is not too practical with little seeds like carrot, but works great for beets or anything larger.

  • @Messymy
    @Messymy 10 месяцев назад +1

    Never ever had success at seed starting. Help appreciated. Watering? Temperatures? Light? Help!!!

    • @Messymy
      @Messymy 10 месяцев назад +1

      A few times have gotten small sprouts, but then they all died off.

  • @jackgraham3393
    @jackgraham3393 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have any thoughts about using a "moisture meter " to assist when to water, new seedings . Purchased onr for my wife ro use on house plants,believe it has cutdown on the over watering problem.
    Thanks for all your great videos.

  • @whencrunchymetspice8589
    @whencrunchymetspice8589 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the wonderful synopsis! You are such a fountain of knowledge. I am a bit worried about the predictions about cicadas this year. In the Midwest it is said it will be even worse. Any advice on preparation for this?

  • @Clairbear1222
    @Clairbear1222 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am not sure of your husband's name but I was listening to you guys while I was putting a kerosene heater together and his voice reminds me of Pat Robertson's on the 700 Club. I was like, he sounds like someone but I couldn't place it and then it came to me, lol.

  • @christazoeller5506
    @christazoeller5506 10 месяцев назад

    Hey y'all!!!! First...thank you for so much information and education!! Second...if you can...would you recommend any seed starting mixes specifically? NC, starting indoors, and YES those soils over the past couple of years have seriously had some issues! Thanks again for all you do!!❤

  • @myberryownhomestead764
    @myberryownhomestead764 10 месяцев назад +1

    Could I use comfrey tea to fertilize the seedings

  • @shandysgarden
    @shandysgarden 9 месяцев назад

    This was all great information, but not really organized TBH. It's more of an intermediate to advanced discussion.
    So, in my opinion, it was a bit all over the place... but I was able to keep up with it because I know what you mean. Granted, I've been watching and learning and dreaming since 2019. I'm always looking for either motivation, a refresher, or new ideas from new tidbits of information.
    For instance, you were discussing food preservation before you even talked about seeds at all.
    I was expecting the video to be about mistakes that were made regarding starting seeds. Maybe light in the mood maybe take away some of the anxiety that I have about choosing varieties and get a few laughs along the way. That's one way that I know works for me... remembering something is if I've heard a funny story about it! 😂
    My suggestion would be to start with "Why" we are seed "starting" verses waiting for warm enough soil to put seeds directly in the ground.
    Then move through how choosing seeds depends on the "What" you want to grow & whether you can do it "Where" you are. And how to know if all you're setting yourself up for failure or success.
    You mentioned seed packets for instance, but for a beginner, that's all Greek. Listening to this discussion I would go right to the store and just buy whatever without knowing that stores frequently sell stuff that won't grow in that area.
    I haven't shot a video about the topic of simply beginning to garden... but I've always known that when I do, it will be all about the "what, why, where, when & how!
    Ultimately, I didn't finish the whole video. I stopped about 11 minutes short because I was just getting frustrated 🥴 I'm sorry!! I'm still a fan❤
    So I think it was a nice chat but I'm not sure it was truly a lesson in things that can go wrong with starting seeds.

    • @sassyherbgardener7154
      @sassyherbgardener7154 9 месяцев назад +1

      They mentioned in the video to click on the link in the description box for more detailed information on starting seeds. Even if you didn't stay long enough to hear that in the video, there is a message in the description box telling you to click on the link to learn more. When you click on the link, it takes you to their detailed post on HOW TO START SEEDS AND MISTAKES TO AVOID!

    • @shandysgarden
      @shandysgarden 9 месяцев назад

      @@sassyherbgardener7154 sure, I do know that there were more details in the description box...but I clicked on a video to watch a video about what they titled the subject to be.
      However, This was not a discussion about the things you don't want to miss when starting seeds. It was not a discussion on the hard lessons that she learned and could help us avoid. Nope. It was all over the place. That's all I'm saying. Usually she's really great at staying on point so this is somewhat of a rarity.
      * If I wanted to read something I would have went to read something. Sometimes I play videos so that I can work and listen at the same time. I don't click on a video looking to read the description. 😂

  • @susanhartwig2216
    @susanhartwig2216 9 месяцев назад

    Set an alarm on your phone before you set your seeds outside to harden off so you don't forget about them. Also, never leave the house if you put your seedlings outside on a cloudy day. The sun can come out at any minute and fry them.

  • @homesteadincrazy7773
    @homesteadincrazy7773 10 месяцев назад

    sounds very similar to repotting house plants when they outgrow their present pots. How many plants do y'all start per year? Just curious. I love starting seeds. We use pro-mix and add extra perlite and vermiculite. Love your channel and chats.

  • @khome707
    @khome707 10 месяцев назад +1

    Do you have Japanese Beetles up where you are? I wanted to plant fruit trees but the ones I do have were decimated by the pesky beetles so, I decided to wait, afraid to plant any. I tried soapy dish water, neem oil, beetle traps(which is controversial), short of spraying with insecticides I don't know what else to do to get rid of them. They were awful!

  • @ka6148
    @ka6148 10 месяцев назад

    So maybe the next pantry chat should cover
    *off grid* seed starting..
    Because these are helpful but dont apply to many

  • @sura2047
    @sura2047 10 месяцев назад +39

    With respect, I disagree entirely, regarding your seed starting suggestion. You’re making it way too hard for yourselves. I haven’t bothered with seed raising mix for years - there’s no nutrients in it. Get a good quality potting mix, sift it to a fine texture, leave the big chunks out. It has enough nutrients to see your seedlings flourish. Sow delicate seeds on top of this pre-wetted mix, and sprinkle vermiculite or perlite over, and mist, plus bottom watering in trays. Put trays on heat mat, keep well moist at all times, and as soon as leaves emerge, turn grow lights on. I have never ever ever sterilised anything - not my containers, soil, nothing. I’ve never had any issues and I start about a thousand seedlings a year, very successfully & grow abundantly.

    • @sharonjennings1282
      @sharonjennings1282 10 месяцев назад +9

      I always use organic potting mix, not seed starting mix as well. Plenty of nutrients to start the seeds and then fertilize regularly

    • @cheyennegerih5937
      @cheyennegerih5937 10 месяцев назад +5

      I decided this to try this same method because I had major problems last with seed starter mix so far so good!

    • @sura2047
      @sura2047 10 месяцев назад

      @@cheyennegerih5937 good luck 🤞

    • @RobinwoodFarmLLC
      @RobinwoodFarmLLC 10 месяцев назад +2

      I’ve been gardening for almost 8 years and have always used organic potting mix. Full of nutrients and it holds water so well!

    • @KHomestead
      @KHomestead 9 месяцев назад

      What are you using to sift the chunks out?

  • @KristinaBakerSmith
    @KristinaBakerSmith 10 месяцев назад

    Is that an Iowa hat Josh is wearing? Where can we find that? I love it!

  • @louiseswart1315
    @louiseswart1315 10 месяцев назад

    Could you plant out your early germinated tomato starts in the green stalk and thenplant out in the garden from there after the last frost date, and put new starts in the green stalk?

    • @narrowpathfarm
      @narrowpathfarm 10 месяцев назад +1

      Probably, but the messing with the roots may hurt the plant

  • @debbiebowman6846
    @debbiebowman6846 10 месяцев назад

    Regarding the wild variety of trees that you spoke for being homesteaded there for many years..did you start these from seed from fruit or nut already established or did someone give you starts? I watched Ben &Meg Hollar’s channel and they got some of their fruit trees established by saving the seeds from neighbors and friends fruit trees. Of course takes much longer to maturity vs purchasing something already somewhat established 😊

  • @thesmiths629
    @thesmiths629 10 месяцев назад

    I'm wanting to Graft a peach and a plum tree this year. I have native plums that I want to use as root stock with a scion from a plum tree I bought 2 years ago. Also I have a volunteer peach tree that sprouted in my garden and I want to Graft onto it from a cultivated peach tree that I have growing. Any experience or tips for a first time grafting experimenter?

  • @Greens5511
    @Greens5511 10 месяцев назад

    This is interesting to me....I am experienced but still love hearing all the info.
    My biggest question is what exactly do you use for fertilizer for those starts to keep them growing?
    Do you not have an amazon shop? I thought to look there to see what you buy but I am not seeing a link for that.

  • @ACampbell365
    @ACampbell365 10 месяцев назад +3

    You mentioned liquid fertilizer… Growing as natural as possible, what liquid fertilizer would you use?

    • @Angelbach1995
      @Angelbach1995 10 месяцев назад +1

      I'm zone 10b SoCal. I've been using Neptune Harvest.

    • @Dixie_N0rmis
      @Dixie_N0rmis 10 месяцев назад +2

      You could make a compost tea

    • @ericb724
      @ericb724 10 месяцев назад +1

      Compost tea was what I was thinking I just haven't used it a whole lot I do my own very nice compost I have rabbits and chickens so a wonderful nitrogen source plenty of access to dead leaves in the fall so I piled those up and keep them for a carbon supply along with other things like grass clippings hardwood sawdust I always end up with a very nice product just need to try to make tea with it a little more.

  • @ericb724
    @ericb724 10 месяцев назад

    Speaking of fertilizing for starts would a good compost tea do the trick?

  • @amandar7719
    @amandar7719 10 месяцев назад

    Lights….I discovered by accident that my seedlings bent towards the dark window overnight around the full moon cycle. Grow lights on all day, seedlings fine. Lights off approximately 2 hours after sunset with a bright moon is rising, by morning, before sunrise, seedlings are stuck leaning towards the window then return upright again when grow lights are switched on before dawn.

  • @rebeccamercer4160
    @rebeccamercer4160 10 месяцев назад

    Can you suggest where to buy good seed? Thank you ! God bless you and your family!

    • @HomesteadingFamily
      @HomesteadingFamily  10 месяцев назад

      We like www.strictlymedicinalseeds.com and www.rareseeds.com

  • @thewolfethatcould8878
    @thewolfethatcould8878 10 месяцев назад

    Is there a way to hear what exactly the challenge is if one is not able to become a member yet?

  • @kathieturpin8837
    @kathieturpin8837 10 месяцев назад

    Is it okay to use the same soil for seed starting as you have used in the past? I plan to put boiling water over it before I plant.

  • @mehtarelingolien
    @mehtarelingolien 10 месяцев назад

    Have you ever heard of soaking (tomato) seeds in chamomile tea for a better germination rate?

  • @therichsodyssey
    @therichsodyssey 10 месяцев назад +1

    I use potting soil for starting my seeds just take out the big pieces. I start a lot of seeds, seed starting mix cost way to much

  • @BrennanLeigh
    @BrennanLeigh 10 месяцев назад

    How do y'all feel about the growing zones changing, I am up in the air about it and sticking to what I know will grow for me. But wanted to know others thought on this.

  • @kimjacobs4711
    @kimjacobs4711 10 месяцев назад

    It is 9 below zero this evening.

  • @nancyrasmussen2016
    @nancyrasmussen2016 10 месяцев назад

    Where do you buy your trees and seeds from? Nancy from Nebraska

    • @kelseybogus7354
      @kelseybogus7354 10 месяцев назад

      We live in south central Nebraska. We get seeds from baker seeds in MO. Trees we just get from the local bomgaars.

  • @linnelindquist
    @linnelindquist 7 месяцев назад

    After 50 years of gardening here are generally the best rules. Mimic nature in your local area. Every year and place has a micro environment of soil, plants, animals, bugs, heat, rain and sunshine. Cultivate the best aspects for your end product. The bureaucrats and their cronies will try to destroy your best options.

  • @conniefisk2791
    @conniefisk2791 10 месяцев назад

    What is school of traditional skills?

  • @kathyadams1766
    @kathyadams1766 10 месяцев назад

    What about onions

  • @laurenbedford1251
    @laurenbedford1251 10 месяцев назад

    What causes anger to grow? Too wet?

    • @jennbasil
      @jennbasil 10 месяцев назад

      I think a contributing factor is resentment. Not always, of course, but resentment can really result in anger. Starting seeds and having a garden is like meditation for me. I find it joyful and it helps my all around perspective on life to be good! ❤

  • @nancymerlo
    @nancymerlo 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry, been gone for a bit … who is getting married??

  • @thesmiths629
    @thesmiths629 10 месяцев назад

    Caroline, your kids seem to have very clear skin. Any tips on teenage acne?

  • @unicornjennie
    @unicornjennie 10 месяцев назад

    Growth spurt!

  • @jamithompson358
    @jamithompson358 10 месяцев назад

    Where's the best place to get seedsm?m

    • @HomesteadingFamily
      @HomesteadingFamily  10 месяцев назад

      We like www.strictlymedicinalseeds.com and www.rareseeds.com