No marriage ends, "Out of nowhere." It was in the making for decades. The couple just didn't invite you into the details of their relationship as it was breaking down. Why would they? So YOU falsely believe that everything is fine because that is all that's shown to YOU publicly. The façade of a happy "perfect" marriage was carried on through social media. So when they divorce you stupidly go, "Gee .. they were so happy."
Yes, I agree. Some people do drift apart over time, but often I think they have been struggling to stay together either "for the kids" or because you are supposed to work at it! It just took decades to finally throw in the towel.
I disagree. Often is the women who are maniacal and selfish and commit 80 to 93% of modern divorces and society today. They often don’t even tell their husbands that they are unhappy and hide behind their emotional Disney fades for sometimes decades. I had the perfect marriage or at least I thought I did For 25 years and my wife up and just left me and broke up a family with four kids which devastated me. I would’ve died for her and sacrificed my life for her, and I gave everything up for her, and yet she ran off with another man because of Happiness. .
@@AmericanWithTheTruth my wife fell for his Disney bullshit, even though her parents came from a town in Italy, a small town in the hills of Italy, even better and she had many infidelity in our first years of marriage. You would think it was the guy but this woman had many many truths for me even being a virgin doesn’t mean you’re gonna have a great sex life. It’s just says she don’t have any baggage from prior people.
More and more years married the more and more meaner he gets and I can't afford to leave he can but won't. . Now he retired he is mostly mean to everyone including strangers off the street. .. I tell you now he is killing me .. slowly. ...what's ironic about all this more then 20 years ago , I left him for the same reason and was living a happy life without him. And then I received a call from his doctor asking me to meet him at the hospital where my soon to be ex was staying . .. doc tells me he knows about our spilt and he knows my ex has no one to help him with his cancer and most likely won't survive .. so I packed up my kids and myself and went back.. It mellowed him for a few years then he forgot what had happened and here I am today , too old ...too tired ... and stuck in a body that hurts all the time... I don't know why I'm telling you guys all this.. You know what yes I do ... once you leave a narcissistic spouse Never ever go back to them , sorry to say they never change. .. Signed... sad sack.....
I feel the same way sometimes, not knowing why I'm spilling my guts in the comment section but ironically, since the message can reach so many people, it has the potential to be unbelievably impactful. Thank you for sharing. Your message impacts me greatly. Much love ❤️
when women want separation doesn't matter if you've been together for 2 yrs, 10yrs, 30yrs...if she says she doesn't love you anymore, that's it, just suck it up and move on.
@scott sanger Most women will say that they dont care about the money but this is a lie. Everyone cares about money to some extent. Some more than others. It may not buy you happiness but it sure does help pay the bills/maintain your prefered lifestyle. Similar to a fire you need three things to keep a marriage going or it will die out. Love, understanding, and plenty of money to pay all of the bills. You take away one of those things away and your marriage is in deep kimchi. lol! Most marriages first have conflict when one or both couples get into money trouble for one reason or another. I could be wrong of course. I've been married for over 20 years now. Just my personal opinion.
As a man my view is . Now that all the handwork is done, raising kids, mortgage , retirement, I don need him anymore. For me , it is the fact of taking you for granted.
Strong, powerful, confident woman who did "recreational drugs" which broke down the honor and trust they had for each other as people? Yeah sure, there's a lot to take away from this puff piece folks...
i have been with my wife 40 years since i was 14 years old. we are 55 years old now. but a year ago everything went south . even though i know we are breaking up i still worry about her financially. and can she make it . it breaks my heart after 40 years together. and now i have to figure out on how am i going to deal with it . i wish someone had a quick fix for the pain. but i will move on no matter what. it will make me or break me only time will tell i guess.
We’re in the move out, break up phase right now. Married 43 years. I was 23, she was 21. Now 66 and 64. This is my wife’s desire. I think she’s doing something profoundly stupid, and ridiculous. But there’s nothing I can do to fix this.
Silly. Divorce hurts. It feels like ripping skin apart and the pain is too much for you to scream. I'm sorry. Im having a difficult time excepting divorce. 14 years and two small children. Painful.
?? They aren't discussing issues in their marriage, issues during divorce etc. They aren't discussing SIDES just generalities of older people deciding to divorce after many years. I think you have some baggage.
Grumpy mean jerky men are mostly repressed jerks hated by everyone in society and too stupid too see their spouses are the only good thing in their lives and be kind and fun
My husband left our marriage of 30+ years for 2 main reasons: he got a big, fat inheritance and a younger woman lured him away (that inheritance might have had something to do with the appeal.) I can say, with absolute certainty, that if he had not had this windfall and/or has this other person to "jump" to, he would still be here. Maybe I should count my blessings that he is not--
@@randomdude2287 I knew when I saw her question that she would basically get a no response. You don't really want to discuss anything you just want to spew your hatred of women. Poor thing.
@@tomulator Typically I agree. But if someone doesn't honor their vow to love and honor or in some cases hold themselves unto you....then the vow is already broken. Therefore you can go if your marriage isn't fixable. A vow isn't a license to mistreat someone without allowing the recourse.
@@christinep. if it was a religious marriage, then there are only a select group of legitimate reasons for a divorce. Too often these days, people are having a rough go of it but, there aren’t legitimate Biblical grounds for divorce, and yet...they just give up and leave. I say, that is wrong.
I really want to talk to you but the problem is, I cannot offer advice. I need yours! I'm just trying to avoid such a thing somehow but my wife seems to have flipped a switch (after 12 years or so)
My wife was selfish and abusive. After 30 years of her doing little but spend and visit I offered to leave if she was unhappy. Our kids were grown and she was wasting money on a huge house. She rarely cooked, rarely cleaned any room but the kitchen, went through several housekeepers and was disagreeable the rest of the time. “No, I don’t want you to leaves, I will lose my health care. Forget it.’ She died thre years later as a spiteful lonely woman
Women spend money to cover up unhappiness that came from somewhere else. What was that thing? My wife basically switched to a terrible person after twelve years or so but we still live together and I still think she is broken for a reason. If I'm making her unhappy then I don't know why but I do feel that her mind is incredibly unhealthy now for some reason and I will stay with her as long as I possibly can. The more she spits on me for seemingly no reason, the more I just see pain inside her that I'm trying to figure out. I'm not happy with her but I will fight for her because that's the decision I've made.
I stayed with my wife as well and saw her all the way to hospice after fighting cancer for almost 30 years. I had made a promise and stuck with it in spite of her bitterness. It hasn’t left me with much respect for the institution of marriage though.
My experience was she wasn’t happy because she felt she let me take away her independence Great my life is in shambles and she’s still miserable as she has told me she’s still not happy But now I’ve got a REAL woman
This is just pathetic. Unless their is an extreme issue like abuse, drug or gambling addiction, there is no good reason to break a marriage. Whatever you reasons you will just carry that to a new relationship. Which is why the divorce rate for people that already remarry is much higher. It is just like people that are "unhappy" and think that if they change where they live, get new job, buy a new house or car, and that will improve their happiness. However it is short lived and they end up being just as miserable if not worse. These women that talk about the things they are doing now that they are divorced, what was stopping them from doing the same thing while they were married? What effort did they make to improve their happiness while still in their relationship? You don't hear much about that in all of these stories. All I can say is enjoy your string of meaningless relationships and eventual cat shut in life.
Know whatever the issue doesn't necessarily carry into the new relationship if you work on yourself you act like someone can't work on themselves unless they're in a relationship get real
@@chocolateprincess2656 That is not what I said, you really should read. What I said is that if you did not "work on your self" while still in your first marriage, the odds you will do so single or in a a different relationship are slim to none. Again baring the possibility of severe drug and alcohol abuse . Severe addictions (drugs, alcohol, gambling...) or physical abuse are some of the only valid reasons to end a relationship. However even then it should only be after making extreme efforts to help one another. If you have issues that lead to poor lifestyle choices which make you unhappy, 99% that is on you, not the person you vowed to love forever through the good and the bad. Ending this relationship really just shows a history of poor life choices. I almost every instance that won't get better when you are single or in another relationship.
@@ericmichel3857 I understood just fine I don't know why you think that people can't work on themselves while they are single or that it will be harder . That simply isn't true and doesn't make any sense when you are single it is easier to work on yourself because you can concentrate on yourself and self only you're not distracted by your significant other so no you don't necessarily carry those problems into your next marriage you don't need to be in a marriage to work on yourself it's quite the opposite. Your comments are just fear tactics to keep women staying in dead and pathetic relationships. You're not someone only or best option
@@chocolateprincess2656 The facts speak for themselves. As we get older, the odds of marriage or even a successful LTR drop at an exponential rate. Then the small percentage that do manage to remarry, the odds of that relationship lasting are far lower. This is why most older men are opting out of marriage or even LTR's with older divorces. They either go for young unattached women, or choose only casual dating. Life is much easier with a partner to share responsibilities with, and most mrn are not interested in older women that believe they should act like men. They might date for occasional l sex, but marriage or even a LTR? LOL why? Then as you quickly reach the sge where eve easy sex is unappealing, its just you and the cats and dogs. I not trying to scare anyone, just telling it like it is.
I almost agree. The thing is that people seem to only stay together because they want to feel a connection and when it gets too far apart then the thing that they were there for is gone and may never come back. My belief is that it's usually more harm to not realize this and try to grow together but life is short.
It's almost all women who are initiating these divorces. Women feel they are entitled to be happy all the time, men are a lot more realistic about life.
Could be the women get fed up, have their own money. Usually when some old guy says hes mgtow, that usually means he went his own way a while back because hes always been an ass. Not one man commenting even listened, LISTENED to these women.
+Ron Harris And why the hell shouldn't anyone feel justified ("entitled") to be happy the maximal possible amount of time? You are the one who sounds "entitled" forcing women how to teel.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Because NO ONE CARES if men are happy - we are not supposed to be happy. Meanwhile, women are supposed to have everything they want and need, all the time. Men don't even matter in American society anymore, now it's all about catering to women.
Love is not a feeling..it is a decision...a decision to stay together till death due them apart according to the Bible...our families are broken because of this
And NO the bible does not say you must put up with all of the above. It says you must respect your man .....AND he must respect and cherish you. Which obviously he did not. You were conned by this player. The bible gets blamed for alot.......
Love is a feeling. Many people don't believe in the SkyGods and remain together for decades. Many believers of religion also get divorced - ignoring the bible.
Wife who spends 300 dollars a week playing bingo. Chick had baby at 26 had boats cars homes now she only wants me around when she wants something. Wants me to take her to Atlanta for a flipping tattoo. I’m out
Us the good females attract the bad guys 🤷♀️, life is so unfair. Is so disgusting from a female to depend on a man, it says a lot about that person but in negative way. Marriage is to grow up together not to one depend on the other.
I think so much of the reason long time couples break up is that they simply grow apart instead of growing together. Most people are not the same individuals at 50 that they were when they were 25. And if they are then THAT'S a problem! Quirks that you may have once found charming and endearing in the beginning start to get on your nerves after a while. Relationships are tough under the best of circumstances. When problems regarding children, finances, etc...rear their head, it makes it that much harder. The daily grind gets mighty old. Since people are living longer today, they ask themselves "Do I really want to spend the next 20 or 30 years of my life in a loveless &/or sexless marriage???" The answer should be no! That's my opinion anyway. I think people need to be thankful for the good experiences such as children etc...that they had with their spouse and just move on to a happier life instead of stagnating in misery or even mediocrity. It's not fair to either spouse to just hang in there because one or both of you is scared of what the future might bring if you move on from the relationship. But if you don't try, you will never know how wonderful things could have been with a new partner. I think people are too dependent on other people for happiness. No one person can give you EVERYTHING you need. This is not to say you should cheat, but you need outside interests/friends besides your significant other. 🌠❤🌈🌛🌏🌞
Christine Mushala all your points are fine but to me if that's the prevailing view no one should get married. They don't believe in marriage and they aren't really in it for the long haul. How can you expect your spouse to stay with you when you need them, like if you become ill or lose your job? Much easier to move on, you deserve to be happy.
@@magsteel9891 I still believe in marriage! It just has to be with the right person! When I talk about things changing, I'm not justifying people leaving someone due to sad circumstances such as illness/job loss. What I'm saying is if the spouse's personality is no longer the same as the individual you married, maybe it's time to move on...My parents have been married over 50 yrs. My mom has Alzheimer's. It's absolutely heart breaking of course, but to witness the great love and care he has for her is a thing of beauty and a testament to how wonderful marriage CAN be! ❤
Christine Mushala bless them and best of luck. I'm sure it's hard. I'm just saying one can justify leaving under any circumstances, including the ones your father is in. Nobody expects to be in that situation when they get married. So they can say it's not what they signed up for, they deserved to be happy, and so on. Your dad has character, and these days that's in short supply.
@@magsteel9891 I understand what you are saying and I certainly agree that character is definitely in short supply these days! I will be 52 years old in May. I was engaged when I was 28. I broke it off and ever since then I've been terrified to get married because the chances of having a lasting marriage are not good. I also have trust issues! I need to get over my fears because God knows I'm not getting any younger!😂 I do believe that there are certain things that are deal breakers such as physical abuse, cheating, substance abuse ( that someone is unwilling to get help for), and involvement in criminal activity that I could NEVER tolerate in a marriage.
Sometimes people want something new and different, men always want something young when the wife gets old !!! people dont take the time to fall in love, they marry for LUST and when LUST wears off bye !!!
My marriage was over at the honeymoon. She became a mother instead of a lover 33 years later and six kids. It’s over starting again at age 59 as it the first time I have ever lived by myself. It’s been wild
My husband’s parents who I adore so much are separating after 43 years together!!! So saddening considering how much history they’ve shared Together. Both now retired for 5 plus years but do their own thing . Financially stable but very seldom spent time together; constantly bickering while together. Why after all these years do Couples separate??
@@christinep.Yes it is because most divorces are initiated by women and except if there is abuse or infidelity, they do not have a reason that is not selfish. Feminism is one if the main reasons couples get divorced.
@@TeaCup1940 Pretty sad that you think another person has to be "lesser than you. " in order for a relationship to work for you. Feminism is only about women being equal
What the hell is this? A podcast for single old women making excuses for making dumb decisions. Breaking up their families? Is this the 50 and beyond divorce club annual meet up?
It is creepy to watch these older women tak about destroying therehusbands and families in the name of there own happiness. The man is not responsible for their happiness. If they are unhappy find some help Counseling. Sports. Working out. Estrogen pills something. It's part of the commitment
We need to abolish and make divorce illegal. Maybe then people will start using these words like commitment, vows , sacrifice, selflessness, and stop putting their personal selfish ego in front of their families.
I just was looking for some where to complain about the lame experience I just had with my soon to be x. We are still in same house. I keep hanging on to hope. But the things he just said in bed (first time for many months) were so rude - my eyes keep opening wider and wider what a fool I’ve been to have ever married this dork.
Because she didn’t take care of herself and her body at 55 looks like she’s 80 that’s some sad stuff and the self betrayal that she put herself through eating crap and I haven’t disciplined like me
In my first and only marriage, 20 years. Don't be lazy, you should only get one marriage. If you fail... then just live together with your several partners... 61 year old male.
Great, what a waste of time and money for those 30 yrs then. With kids, and how much you've poured into them as well, together with alimony and child support. That's a whole ton wasted
I noticed a lot of MGTOW comments here, and seeing how this film clip offered no real reason for divorce after several decades (except maybe the drug using couple), I don't blame them.
i think as humans as men and women if you truly really love each other call each other soul mates have a real love like tim magraw and faith hill to me thats real love til u die we can make all excuses under the sun if you dont love and treat each other like your soul mate to me personally i could be way off track but thats how i see ppl whom dont want a divorce and still love each other when their old and grey but thats just me xox
Yes. But, if you are the only one being faithful, devoted, attentive, etc. that's not something you can do forever. It will deplete you to nothing. That is not gender-specific, it can happen to men or women.
I am male. Proudly single. Guess that makes me MGTOW. And there is NOTHING ANTI-MALE in this video. If you find anything "anti-male" in this video, you are full of shit. All my friends are childfree antinatalist single like me. No matter what their genders.
Men you should be in two relationships a relationship with your health and a relationship with your wealth. Never marry it's not designed for you to benefit in any way. Proof your voice is not Important men is this panel not one man on this panel.
I mean my parents been together for 31 years since they day they met they where always together if my father went that way she will go there too they were never apart that’s the problem that all the guys or girls they just have a friends nights out but what’s the point of getting married if your just finna divorce 🙏🏻
Minimal support while you go back to college and learn a skill or trade...then you're on your own...isn't that what you want?...to be free and clear of "THAT" man ?
@@Last_one_before_I_go I have a degree, but being out of Science for 26 years means I won't get hired. I took care of his sick mother and his kids during that time, while he did whatever he wanted to do.
@@re-ridersuzanne - I stand by my answer - You should be supported so you can go back to school, retrain and get on your feet. Then you're on your own. Women are now favored in hiring, and are empowered in many ways. So you took care of his mother, great. That does not grant you a lifetime pension.
@@Last_one_before_I_go You don't listen and you don't have any compassion. She told you that she had to take care of the kids and her husband's sick mother for years by herself with no support from her husband. Her husband went out and did what he wanted to while shrinking on his responsibilities. And all you have to say is that she isn't owned anything. As I said you have no compassion for others and that makes you a sad human being.
@@sparklingdaisy3169 - what part of "*You should be supported* so you can go back to school, retrain and get on your feet. Then you're on your own" lacks compassion? Or do you think the rest of her life should be a free ride? If a woman asks lifetime support from an ex, then the man should be able to ask lifetime "favors and comfort" from the Ex. Agree? Equality. "Divorce:" means "I don't want to be married or associated with you at all" Men are NOT lifetime support systems for women. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Facts. Don't like it? Thank your local feminist, they worked to tell men they were worthless (Fish/bicycle thang)
I will give you a prospective my wife left me after 10 years because I didn’t make enough money i started taking dance lessons and know dance ballroom Latin and Argentine tango women are all over me all of the time I escaped the plantation women are like buses another comes along every 15 minutes
🤔 I am confused about the second lady who stated she was married 30 years or so and woke up one day to question who was this person she married. ???? So, the same question goes for her. . where was she for 30 years??? The first lady I can't understand why she divorced her husband, both had drug problems it was not a one sided issue🤔 why not get help as a couple to keep the marriage together. The others didn't share too much of the why but, to each is own. Unfortunately, after a certain age if you are looking to marry again, your options are significantly very low ....... marriage today is non existent because, of this especially females who feel they are entitled, confident, and just like the modern today. They have a false sense that, they can get another man after 30 plus years of marriage and getting divorced 😂 Good luck!!!
me and my wife are getting ready to divorce or separate after 40 years of marriage raised poor kids of her own my son passed away at 18 in the year 2000 we are now raising five of our youngest daughter's grandkids because of drugs and her oldest daughter at 14 got pregnant so now we have a great-grandson that we're also taking care of talk about stressful yes very stressful especially now during this coronavirus everybody's homeschooling can you imagine five kids homeschooling with people who are not school teachers we are old people we went to olden day schools nothing like they have today and the wife likes to control every aspect about life so now it's coming between us after all this time what do I do
Don’t listen to this video lol that’s cause they don’t know how to talk all relationships are different🙏🏻 be smart respect each other don’t dooo stufff that will mess your body up
So what I learned from this video… Being a boss, girl, independent, blossoming in your own skin, and following your own selfish desires in life for happiness is more important than responsibility, accountability, and personal achievement in a 30 year marriage. Got it! Our society is going to hell because of women like this.
My husband’s parents who I adore so much are separating after 43 years together!!! So saddening considering how much history they’ve shared Together. Both now retired for 5 plus years but do their own thing . Financially stable but very seldom spent time together; constantly bickering while together. Why after all these years do Couples separate??
No marriage ends, "Out of nowhere." It was in the making for decades. The couple just didn't invite you into the details of their relationship as it was breaking down. Why would they? So YOU falsely believe that everything is fine because that is all that's shown to YOU publicly. The façade of a happy "perfect" marriage was carried on through social media. So when they divorce you stupidly go, "Gee .. they were so happy."
Yes, I agree. Some people do drift apart over time, but often I think they have been struggling to stay together either "for the kids" or because you are supposed to work at it! It just took decades to finally throw in the towel.
You are so right
I disagree. Often is the women who are maniacal and selfish and commit 80 to 93% of modern divorces and society today. They often don’t even tell their husbands that they are unhappy and hide behind their emotional Disney fades for sometimes decades. I had the perfect marriage or at least I thought I did For 25 years and my wife up and just left me and broke up a family with four kids which devastated me. I would’ve died for her and sacrificed my life for her, and I gave everything up for her, and yet she ran off with another man because of Happiness. .
Exactly.
@@AmericanWithTheTruth my wife fell for his Disney bullshit, even though her parents came from a town in Italy, a small town in the hills of Italy, even better and she had many infidelity in our first years of marriage. You would think it was the guy but this woman had many many truths for me even being a virgin doesn’t mean you’re gonna have a great sex life. It’s just says she don’t have any baggage from prior people.
More and more years married the more and more meaner he gets and I can't afford to leave he can but won't. . Now he retired he is mostly mean to everyone including strangers off the street. .. I tell you now he is killing me .. slowly. ...what's ironic about all this more then 20 years ago , I left him for the same reason and was living a happy life without him. And then I received a call from his doctor asking me to meet him at the hospital where my soon to be ex was staying . .. doc tells me he knows about our spilt and he knows my ex has no one to help him with his cancer and most likely won't survive .. so I packed up my kids and myself and went back..
It mellowed him for a few years then he forgot what had happened and here I am today , too old ...too tired ... and stuck in a body that hurts all the time... I don't know why I'm telling you guys all this..
You know what yes I do ... once you leave a narcissistic spouse
Never ever go back to them , sorry to say they never change. ..
Signed... sad sack.....
I feel the same way sometimes, not knowing why I'm spilling my guts in the comment section but ironically, since the message can reach so many people, it has the potential to be unbelievably impactful. Thank you for sharing. Your message impacts me greatly. Much love ❤️
How are you now?
when women want separation doesn't matter if you've been together for 2 yrs, 10yrs, 30yrs...if she says she doesn't love you anymore, that's it, just suck it up and move on.
scott sanger and they get to keep the resources anyway
@scott sanger not true at least in my case
You are so true
@scott sanger Most women will say that they dont care about the money but this is a lie. Everyone cares about money to some extent. Some more than others. It may not buy you happiness but it sure does help pay the bills/maintain your prefered lifestyle. Similar to a fire you need three things to keep a marriage going or it will die out. Love, understanding, and plenty of money to pay all of the bills. You take away one of those things away and your marriage is in deep kimchi. lol! Most marriages first have conflict when one or both couples get into money trouble for one reason or another. I could be wrong of course. I've been married for over 20 years now. Just my personal opinion.
These women are one-sided. #AbolishDivorce
She's casing in. Divorce is her retirement plan.
Not when SHE earned all the money.
As a man my view is . Now that all the handwork is done, raising kids, mortgage , retirement, I don need him anymore. For me , it is the fact of taking you for granted.
Strong, powerful, confident woman who did "recreational drugs" which broke down the honor and trust they had for each other as people? Yeah sure, there's a lot to take away from this puff piece folks...
how can she say she had the perfect marriage when they were practically drug addicts, bit ironic. The other women made some sense.
@@MissHannah2036 - what do you mean? I think the drug user was the only one who made any kind of sense.
@@MissHannah2036 What she is really saying is that the only thing they had in common was drugs, and when they stopped using drugs they realized that.
Notice that to justify her use of narcissistics she sugarcoats it by saying recreational drugs. The overall woman is not wife material
You know yourself just fine that’s not important at all… learn who you’re not . Not who you are ..
i have been with my wife 40 years since i was 14 years old. we are 55 years old now. but a year ago everything went south . even though i know we are breaking up i still worry about her financially. and can she make it . it breaks my heart after 40 years together. and now i have to figure out on how am i going to deal with it . i wish someone had a quick fix for the pain. but i will move on no matter what. it will make me or break me only time will tell i guess.
George Portela sheesh that's scary I'm with my high school sweetheart and this is scary
George Portela you can rest easy, she will be fine financially. You will be paying her bills.
What happened in your marriage?
We’re in the move out, break up phase right now. Married 43 years. I was 23, she was 21. Now 66 and 64. This is my wife’s desire. I think she’s doing something profoundly stupid, and ridiculous. But there’s nothing I can do to fix this.
When your wife has feminists friends you're doomed
I didn’t know myself
Sounds like selfishness to me
All I hear from her is me me me
Silly. Divorce hurts. It feels like ripping skin apart and the pain is too much for you to scream. I'm sorry. Im having a difficult time excepting divorce. 14 years and two small children. Painful.
We live in the era where marriage is not happening anymore. Most of my neighbors live alone as I. Haven't been to a wedding in years many years.
Is it just me or is this simply not a good thing for the health of humanity?
MGTOW!
That's fine, I don't think any of these women care if MGTOW.
So... there aren't ANY male perspectives here! Thanks for a massive waste of time!!!!
You got that right.
YES
Massive waste of 5:24 min?
Stephen Roth Im a woman and I wanted to hear a males opinion about it.🤷♀️
It's awful to lose someone when they are actually still with you. It hurtd
Hi Jane, how are you doing ?
No male side of it.....typical HUFFPOST.
?? They aren't discussing issues in their marriage, issues during divorce etc. They aren't discussing SIDES just generalities of older people deciding to divorce after many years. I think you have some baggage.
Grumpy mean jerky men are mostly repressed jerks hated by everyone in society and too stupid too see their spouses are the only good thing in their lives and be kind and fun
Sure, if a couple can be miserable for 30 years, why not be miserable to the death. Great advice.
My husband left our marriage of 30+ years for 2 main reasons: he got a big, fat inheritance and a younger woman lured him away (that inheritance might have had something to do with the appeal.) I can say, with absolute certainty, that if he had not had this windfall and/or has this other person to "jump" to, he would still be here. Maybe I should count my blessings that he is not--
Yes count them.
So what do men think?
MGTOW SAVES LIVES
@@randomdude2287 I knew when I saw her question that she would basically get a no response. You don't really want to discuss anything you just want to spew your hatred of women. Poor thing.
I think you honor your marriage vows. Those were made to each other and to GOD. Honor them.
@@tomulator Typically I agree. But if someone doesn't honor their vow to love and honor or in some cases hold themselves unto you....then the vow is already broken. Therefore you can go if your marriage isn't fixable. A vow isn't a license to mistreat someone without allowing the recourse.
@@christinep. if it was a religious marriage, then there are only a select group of legitimate reasons for a divorce. Too often these days, people are having a rough go of it but, there aren’t legitimate Biblical grounds for divorce, and yet...they just give up and leave. I say, that is wrong.
We were into recreational drugs and can't figure out what went wrong? lol
lol, I know, ironic huh......she even said they had the perfect marriage. I think she's blown some brain cells :)
Sometimes drugs can be boreing .if you cant get high any more you have to get something stronger.
Majority of divorces are started by woman once they hit menopause. Then they spend the rest of that time trying to convince themselves they’re happy 😆
Biology is a cruel drug
We are…🧘🏾
Wrong
Mine left me for a bag of pot.
Did he...did he have sex with the bag of pot
@@leahsmith2078 Yesh indeedy
My husband left for a 20ish years old. I m 13 years younger than him!!!!.....
I truly understand..... I have been married for 32 years and now.....she wants to divorce...... I need help..... and someone to talk to.
I can help you
I really want to talk to you but the problem is, I cannot offer advice. I need yours! I'm just trying to avoid such a thing somehow but my wife seems to have flipped a switch (after 12 years or so)
I am not a good one for advice
My wife was selfish and abusive. After 30 years of her doing little but spend and visit I offered to leave if she was unhappy. Our kids were grown and she was wasting money on a huge house. She rarely cooked, rarely cleaned any room but the kitchen, went through several housekeepers and was disagreeable the rest of the time. “No, I don’t want you to leaves, I will lose my health care. Forget it.’ She died thre years later as a spiteful lonely woman
I wrote my book to help me RECOVER but he is still in LOVE with his COWORKER mistress he denied paying for.
Women spend money to cover up unhappiness that came from somewhere else. What was that thing? My wife basically switched to a terrible person after twelve years or so but we still live together and I still think she is broken for a reason. If I'm making her unhappy then I don't know why but I do feel that her mind is incredibly unhealthy now for some reason and I will stay with her as long as I possibly can. The more she spits on me for seemingly no reason, the more I just see pain inside her that I'm trying to figure out. I'm not happy with her but I will fight for her because that's the decision I've made.
I stayed with my wife as well and saw her all the way to hospice after fighting cancer for almost 30 years. I had made a promise and stuck with it in spite of her bitterness. It hasn’t left me with much respect for the institution of marriage though.
I RESPECT YOUR COMMITMENT TO YOUR COVENANT. @@zacharysherry2910
My experience was she wasn’t happy because she felt she let me take away her independence
Great my life is in shambles and she’s still miserable as she has told me she’s still not happy
But now I’ve got a REAL woman
You want something new...the thrill is long gone.
This is just pathetic. Unless their is an extreme issue like abuse, drug or gambling addiction, there is no good reason to break a marriage. Whatever you reasons you will just carry that to a new relationship. Which is why the divorce rate for people that already remarry is much higher. It is just like people that are "unhappy" and think that if they change where they live, get new job, buy a new house or car, and that will improve their happiness. However it is short lived and they end up being just as miserable if not worse.
These women that talk about the things they are doing now that they are divorced, what was stopping them from doing the same thing while they were married? What effort did they make to improve their happiness while still in their relationship? You don't hear much about that in all of these stories. All I can say is enjoy your string of meaningless relationships and eventual cat shut in life.
Know whatever the issue doesn't necessarily carry into the new relationship if you work on yourself you act like someone can't work on themselves unless they're in a relationship get real
@@chocolateprincess2656 That is not what I said, you really should read. What I said is that if you did not "work on your self" while still in your first marriage, the odds you will do so single or in a a different relationship are slim to none. Again baring the possibility of severe drug and alcohol abuse . Severe addictions (drugs, alcohol, gambling...) or physical abuse are some of the only valid reasons to end a relationship. However even then it should only be after making extreme efforts to help one another.
If you have issues that lead to poor lifestyle choices which make you unhappy, 99% that is on you, not the person you vowed to love forever through the good and the bad.
Ending this relationship really just shows a history of poor life choices. I almost every instance that won't get better when you are single or in another relationship.
@@ericmichel3857 I understood just fine I don't know why you think that people can't work on themselves while they are single or that it will be harder . That simply isn't true and doesn't make any sense when you are single it is easier to work on yourself because you can concentrate on yourself and self only you're not distracted by your significant other so no you don't necessarily carry those problems into your next marriage you don't need to be in a marriage to work on yourself it's quite the opposite. Your comments are just fear tactics to keep women staying in dead and pathetic relationships. You're not someone only or best option
@@chocolateprincess2656 The facts speak for themselves. As we get older, the odds of marriage or even a successful LTR drop at an exponential rate. Then the small percentage that do manage to remarry, the odds of that relationship lasting are far lower.
This is why most older men are opting out of marriage or even LTR's with older divorces. They either go for young unattached women, or choose only casual dating.
Life is much easier with a partner to share responsibilities with, and most mrn are not interested in older women that believe they should act like men. They might date for occasional l sex, but marriage or even a LTR? LOL why?
Then as you quickly reach the sge where eve easy sex is unappealing, its just you and the cats and dogs.
I not trying to scare anyone, just telling it like it is.
I almost agree. The thing is that people seem to only stay together because they want to feel a connection and when it gets too far apart then the thing that they were there for is gone and may never come back. My belief is that it's usually more harm to not realize this and try to grow together but life is short.
It's almost all women who are initiating these divorces. Women feel they are entitled to be happy all the time, men are a lot more realistic about life.
Could be the women get fed up, have their own money.
Usually when some old guy says hes mgtow, that usually means he went his own way a while back because hes always been an ass.
Not one man commenting even listened, LISTENED to these women.
I’m not entitled to be happy all the time, but at least some of the time, damn. And not miserable all of the time.
+Ron Harris And why the hell shouldn't anyone feel justified ("entitled") to be happy the maximal possible amount of time? You are the one who sounds "entitled" forcing women how to teel.
@@theultimatereductionist7592 Because NO ONE CARES if men are happy - we are not supposed to be happy. Meanwhile, women are supposed to have everything they want and need, all the time. Men don't even matter in American society anymore, now it's all about catering to women.
Love is not a feeling..it is a decision...a decision to stay together till death due them apart according to the Bible...our families are broken because of this
it's an action
@Sunshine Baker.........which begs the question........WHY did you marry him???
And NO the bible does not say you must put up with all of the above. It says you must respect your man .....AND he must respect and cherish you.
Which obviously he did not.
You were conned by this player.
The bible gets blamed for alot.......
Love is a feeling. Many people don't believe in the SkyGods and remain together for decades. Many believers of religion also get divorced - ignoring the bible.
Bingo
Wife who spends 300 dollars a week playing bingo. Chick had baby at 26 had boats cars homes now she only wants me around when she wants something. Wants me to take her to Atlanta for a flipping tattoo. I’m out
Us the good females attract the bad guys 🤷♀️, life is so unfair. Is so disgusting from a female to depend on a man, it says a lot about that person but in negative way. Marriage is to grow up together not to one depend on the other.
I think so much of the reason long time couples break up is that they simply grow apart instead of growing together. Most people are not the same individuals at 50 that they were when they were 25. And if they are then THAT'S a problem! Quirks that you may have once found charming and endearing in the beginning start to get on your nerves after a while. Relationships are tough under the best of circumstances. When problems regarding children, finances, etc...rear their head, it makes it that much harder. The daily grind gets mighty old. Since people are living longer today, they ask themselves "Do I really want to spend the next 20 or 30 years of my life in a loveless &/or sexless marriage???" The answer should be no! That's my opinion anyway. I think people need to be thankful for the good experiences such as children etc...that they had with their spouse and just move on to a happier life instead of stagnating in misery or even mediocrity. It's not fair to either spouse to just hang in there because one or both of you is scared of what the future might bring if you move on from the relationship. But if you don't try, you will never know how wonderful things could have been with a new partner. I think people are too dependent on other people for happiness. No one person can give you EVERYTHING you need. This is not to say you should cheat, but you need outside interests/friends besides your significant other. 🌠❤🌈🌛🌏🌞
Christine Mushala all your points are fine but to me if that's the prevailing view no one should get married. They don't believe in marriage and they aren't really in it for the long haul. How can you expect your spouse to stay with you when you need them, like if you become ill or lose your job? Much easier to move on, you deserve to be happy.
@@magsteel9891 I still believe in marriage! It just has to be with the right person! When I talk about things changing, I'm not justifying people leaving someone due to sad circumstances such as illness/job loss. What I'm saying is if the spouse's personality is no longer the same as the individual you married, maybe it's time to move on...My parents have been married over 50 yrs. My mom has Alzheimer's. It's absolutely heart breaking of course, but to witness the great love and care he has for her is a thing of beauty and a testament to how wonderful marriage CAN be! ❤
Christine Mushala bless them and best of luck. I'm sure it's hard.
I'm just saying one can justify leaving under any circumstances, including the ones your father is in. Nobody expects to be in that situation when they get married. So they can say it's not what they signed up for, they deserved to be happy, and so on. Your dad has character, and these days that's in short supply.
@@magsteel9891 I understand what you are saying and I certainly agree that character is definitely in short supply these days! I will be 52 years old in May. I was engaged when I was 28. I broke it off and ever since then I've been terrified to get married because the chances of having a lasting marriage are not good. I also have trust issues! I need to get over my fears because God knows I'm not getting any younger!😂 I do believe that there are certain things that are deal breakers such as physical abuse, cheating, substance abuse ( that someone is unwilling to get help for), and involvement in criminal activity that I could NEVER tolerate in a marriage.
Everyone changes over the years that's why a commitment is made in the beginning. If you're not going to keep it don't make it.
Sometimes people want something new and different, men always want something young when the wife gets old !!! people dont take the time to fall in love, they marry for LUST and when LUST wears off bye !!!
Hi Lisa, how are you doing ?
Love how it cuts off I was just relating to it
My marriage was over at the honeymoon. She became a mother instead of a lover 33 years later and six kids. It’s over starting again at age 59 as it the first time I have ever lived by myself. It’s been wild
My husband’s parents who I adore so much are separating after 43 years together!!! So saddening considering how much history they’ve shared Together. Both now retired for 5 plus years but do their own thing . Financially stable but very seldom spent time together; constantly bickering while together. Why after all these years do Couples separate??
All these women r rich y not b happy alone but what about poor woman that have to divorce do to abuse for 30yrs what about them.
No men on the panel. - Shocking....said no one.
MGTOW SAVES LIVES
1+1=3 #FEMINISM
Lots of anger to unpack here. There are a gazillion videos on RUclips just for men. Feminism is not the problem.
@@christinep.Yes it is because most divorces are initiated by women and except if there is abuse or infidelity, they do not have a reason that is not selfish. Feminism is one if the main reasons couples get divorced.
@@TeaCup1940 Pretty sad that you think another person has to be "lesser than you. " in order for a relationship to work for you. Feminism is only about women being equal
What the hell is this? A podcast for single old women making excuses for making dumb decisions. Breaking up their families? Is this the 50 and beyond divorce club annual meet up?
It is creepy to watch these older women tak about destroying therehusbands and families in the name of there own happiness. The man is not responsible for their happiness. If they are unhappy find some help
Counseling. Sports. Working out. Estrogen pills something. It's part of the commitment
I’m scared to death. I don’t know any other life.
Hi Christina, how are you doing ?
Well, you better get to learning
LOL, all female views.
Can't help but notice you have no men's opinions
Married to young having children, never got to go out and have some fun with single friends.
Selfishness. Pure selfishness.
We need to abolish and make divorce illegal. Maybe then people will start using these words like commitment, vows , sacrifice, selflessness, and stop putting their personal selfish ego in front of their families.
I just was looking for some where to complain about the lame experience I just had with my soon to be x. We are still in same house. I keep hanging on to hope. But the things he just said in bed (first time for many months) were so rude - my eyes keep opening wider and wider what a fool I’ve been to have ever married this dork.
Sounds like he’s better off without you
Last woman sure hit the nail on the head.
I dont know why no one is talking why more men are no longer intimate with their wives after middle age?
Because she didn’t take care of herself and her body at 55 looks like she’s 80 that’s some sad stuff and the self betrayal that she put herself through eating crap and I haven’t disciplined like me
In my first and only marriage, 20 years. Don't be lazy, you should only get one marriage. If you fail... then just live together with your several partners... 61 year old male.
Mostly, it is a women's trait to feel dissatisfied with a long term marriage but few men who also do that have women's traits too..
Great, what a waste of time and money for those 30 yrs then. With kids, and how much you've poured into them as well, together with alimony and child support. That's a whole ton wasted
I noticed a lot of MGTOW comments here, and seeing how this film clip offered no real reason for divorce after several decades (except maybe the drug using couple), I don't blame them.
I shouldn't call myself MGTOW, in spite of being M, because it has NOTHING to do with me being M.
Whether one is M or W, one should GTOW.
i think as humans as men and women if you truly really love each other call each other soul mates have a real love like tim magraw and faith hill to me thats real love til u die we can make all excuses under the sun if you dont love and treat each other like your soul mate to me personally i could be way off track but thats how i see ppl whom dont want a divorce and still love each other when their old and grey but thats just me xox
Yes. But, if you are the only one being faithful, devoted, attentive, etc. that's not something you can do forever. It will deplete you to nothing. That is not gender-specific, it can happen to men or women.
It's not companionship in most cases that this happens.
I am male. Proudly single. Guess that makes me MGTOW. And there is NOTHING ANTI-MALE in this video.
If you find anything "anti-male" in this video, you are full of shit.
All my friends are childfree antinatalist single like me. No matter what their genders.
Men you should be in two relationships a relationship with your health and a relationship with your wealth. Never marry it's not designed for you to benefit in any way. Proof your voice is not Important men is this panel not one man on this panel.
How dare women have a discussion without men present!
You need help.
@@bluebell0138 😂
I mean my parents been together for 31 years since they day they met they where always together if my father went that way she will go there too they were never apart that’s the problem that all the guys or girls they just have a friends nights out but what’s the point of getting married if your just finna divorce 🙏🏻
Feeling lonely, who wants to chat?
Haven't had a real job in 26 years. He thinks he's not going to have to give me any support.
Minimal support while you go back to college and learn a skill or trade...then you're on your own...isn't that what you want?...to be free and clear of "THAT" man ?
@@Last_one_before_I_go I have a degree, but being out of Science for 26 years means I won't get hired.
I took care of his sick mother and his kids during that time, while he did whatever he wanted to do.
@@re-ridersuzanne - I stand by my answer - You should be supported so you can go back to school, retrain and get on your feet. Then you're on your own. Women are now favored in hiring, and are empowered in many ways. So you took care of his mother, great. That does not grant you a lifetime pension.
@@Last_one_before_I_go You don't listen and you don't have any compassion. She told you that she had to take care of the kids and her husband's sick mother for years by herself with no support from her husband. Her husband went out and did what he wanted to while shrinking on his responsibilities. And all you have to say is that she isn't owned anything. As I said you have no compassion for others and that makes you a sad human being.
@@sparklingdaisy3169 - what part of "*You should be supported* so you can go back to school, retrain and get on your feet. Then you're on your own" lacks compassion? Or do you think the rest of her life should be a free ride? If a woman asks lifetime support from an ex, then the man should be able to ask lifetime "favors and comfort" from the Ex. Agree? Equality. "Divorce:" means "I don't want to be married or associated with you at all" Men are NOT lifetime support systems for women. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Facts. Don't like it? Thank your local feminist, they worked to tell men they were worthless (Fish/bicycle thang)
I will give you a prospective my wife left me after 10 years because I didn’t make enough money i started taking dance lessons and know dance ballroom Latin and Argentine tango women are all over me all of the time I escaped the plantation women are like buses another comes along every 15 minutes
This behavior is probably why she left you.
@@sparklingdaisy3169 yes she did me a favor she was Dr j and Mrs h and meet her in a church found out after we were married se was see a ph
Such a sad perspective.
Taking dance lessons with no money?
'Cause he can.
🤔 I am confused about the second lady who stated she was married 30 years or so and woke up one day to question who was this person she married. ???? So, the same question goes for her. . where was she for 30 years??? The first lady I can't understand why she divorced her husband, both had drug problems it was not a one sided issue🤔 why not get help as a couple to keep the marriage together. The others didn't share too much of the why but, to each is own. Unfortunately, after a certain age if you are looking to marry again, your options are significantly very low ....... marriage today is non existent because, of this especially females who feel they are entitled, confident, and just like the modern today. They have a false sense that, they can get another man after 30 plus years of marriage and getting divorced 😂 Good luck!!!
No they prefer no one to living with an oppressive boring jerk.
Fiorce Is Wrong
All I hear from these ladies is me, me, me.
me and my wife are getting ready to divorce or separate after 40 years of marriage raised poor kids of her own my son passed away at 18 in the year 2000 we are now raising five of our youngest daughter's grandkids because of drugs and her oldest daughter at 14 got pregnant so now we have a great-grandson that we're also taking care of talk about stressful yes very stressful especially now during this coronavirus everybody's homeschooling can you imagine five kids homeschooling with people who are not school teachers we are old people we went to olden day schools nothing like they have today and the wife likes to control every aspect about life so now it's coming between us after all this time what do I do
4 kids not poor kids
Don’t listen to this video lol that’s cause they don’t know how to talk all relationships are different🙏🏻 be smart respect each other don’t dooo stufff that will mess your body up
They leave their marriages because they get child support and/or alimony. If they didn’t get those things, then they wouldn’t leave.
So what I learned from this video… Being a boss, girl, independent, blossoming in your own skin, and following your own selfish desires in life for happiness is more important than responsibility, accountability, and personal achievement in a 30 year marriage. Got it! Our society is going to hell because of women like this.
Being married to a jerk for 30 years sucks. Why make it 50 years?
Get a coin. Heads is marriage and tails is divorce. Toss it!
Heads, you win. Tails, I lose.
Wait Untill Marriage To.Have Sex And Dont Live Together Before Marriage
My husband’s parents who I adore so much are separating after 43 years together!!! So saddening considering how much history they’ve shared Together. Both now retired for 5 plus years but do their own thing . Financially stable but very seldom spent time together; constantly bickering while together. Why after all these years do Couples separate??