WATCH LIVE: Day 13 - Johnny Depp Defamation Trial - Dr. Dawn Hughes - Forensic Psychologist
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2022
- LIVE COVERAGE: Johnny Depp v Amber Heard Defamation Trial
Happening in court:
Day 13
By Video Deposition:
Erin Falati - Amber Heard's Former Nurse
Mike Spindler - Economic Damages Examiner
Arguments Outside Jury Presence - Motion To Dismiss
Lunch
Dr. Dawn Hughes - Forensic Psychologist
Actor Johnny Depp is suing ex-wife Amber Heard for $50 million for defamation in connection with Heard’s 2018 Washington Post op-ed, in which she spoke out about being the victim of domestic violence. Heard’s article did not specifically name Depp as her alleged abuser, but according to Depp’s lawsuit, it relied “on the central premise that Ms. Heard was a domestic abuse victim and that Mr. Depp perpetrated domestic violence against her.” Amber Heard is counter-suing Depp for $100 million.
The defamation trial began Monday in Fairfax County Circuit Court in Virginia, with jury selection completing on the same day. There is a possibility of celebrity witnesses testifying, including James Franco and Elon Musk. Tune in to the Law&Crime Network for daily coverage of this high-profile trial.
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Objection: why was this psychologist allowed to look through her reports while the other witnesses were not?
I wondered the same thing!!🤔
Yep, that's crazy. No other witnesses were allowed to look at similar things or notes of said reports to my knowledge.
they really are not allowed?
What if Amber Heard is actually not as bad as media is portraying? Acc. to the BOARD CERTIFIED FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST, Johnny Depp is an abuser. AND that there was MUTUAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. Why not give Amber the benefit of doubt?
Because she's a liar and needed notes to stay on track..johnnys witnesses don't need that. The jury will see this through
The two psychologists should be allowed to debate
I wondered if Dr. Curry would be able to take the stand again. I saw her taking notes.
@@blessedmwsmom she is there? oh, I hope they get to debate then
One is board certified and one isn’t. Move on it’s giving clownery
@@blessedmwsmom I noticed that, too, and wondered the same. I hope so!
@@blessedmwsmom she is subject to recall
The fact this woman describes victims as ‘she’ tells me all I need to know about her testimony
I was thinking the same thing.
Bingo! Such a startlingly bad choice by AHs team considering the larger conversations being generated by this case.
Yes, certainly agree.
And the rest of her testimony was just "Ms. Heard told me he did this to her, he did that to her."
Yessss!!!! 🙏
10:50 Erin Falati - Amber's former nurse
1:04:30 Mike Spindler - forensic accountant
1:35:25 recess after Plantiff rests
1:56:35 court resumes defense motion to dismiss
2:07:50 loss of sound for a minute
2:09:45 Plantiff speaks rebuttal
2:35:10 defense rebuttal
2:38:20 Judge rules against motion to strike
2:40:30 lunch
3:59:30 Dr Hughes history and definitions of IPV
5:06:30 afternoon break
5:24:55 return to Dr Hughes focus on working with AH
Thank you for doing God's work
thank you!
Thanks
I'm happy to help! I did the same for day 14. 💞
You are underrated
As a therapist myself, it’s understood that clients can tell us whatever they want. How do we know with any absolute certainty that what our clients say is factual, unless we were there ourselves to witness? Or a trusted third party ( ie law enforcement) We don’t. We build rapport with our clients and allow them the space to share their lives with us. She’s speaking as though she was there in the house with them.
Especially Amber which by now has earned a reputation of being deceitful.
Exactly she wasn't speaking as a professional she seemed to be speaking as a friend
As a psychiatrist resident I agree, she can not speak on what she did not witness. It’s not only unethical but also perjury. We listen and advocate for our clients that our job however there is an extremely thick line that every good therapist knows never to cross and that is to talk “gossip” with the client and then make her account of what happened As total truth. Which is not the job at all. What I think is this is a disgusting farce to all those of us who work hard to advocate for our clients but in a healthy way. We don’t encourage hearsay and who said what,it is about her and how she feels and why period. That does not make it truth. Dr Curry was 100 percent spot on, I would have added narcissistic tendencies and leaned more towards sociopathic tendencies.
The best therapist in the world will tell you there is no psych fix for a sociopath, which is clearly what she is.
This is horrific I don't believe JD would put his fingers in her like that or. Bottle. Or choke her he is mellow when drunk or high I dunno just seems crazy
So upsetting to listen to this woman actually accuse Johnny Depp as opposed to saying something like, “Ms. Heard told me that Johnny Depp …….”
Unbelievable that this was allowed!
What about ambers drug and alcohol use during this time?
@@carrieswenson1648 Yeah, she made a whole deal about drugs causing domestic violence and of the two, only JD was trying to get off the drugs, she refused to even try. I hope we get questions about that on cross.
@@Djorgal they better! Lots of stuff should be brought up. She was horrible
She should lose her license
@@carrieswenson1648 Yeah. That cross-examination could go on for days!
AH’s lawyer repeatedly calling their psychologist “Dr. Curry” rather than “Dr. Hughes” is HILARIOUS!
I follow this case but I'm confused because English isn't my first language, who are Amber's witnesses other than Dr. Hughes? Because if its only Dr. Hughes, well that's unfortunate.
@@mieraj.1081 so far, Dr. Hughes is the only witness brought forward so far.
I think because she saw Dr. Curry is there and will shred Dr. Hughes' results in the blink of an eye.
Love that Dr Curry gave us all such a good free psychology lesson that we all know this lady is biased and unprofessional
AGREED!
I want Dr. Curry to get her own TV show. Maybe host some psychology based documentaries or something.
@@KlockoFett sameee
@@KlockoFett me too! I'm sure it's already in development by studios (verbally planning it)
Who is biased?
As a psychologist, I find it concerning that this "expert witness" constantly refers to domestic violence survivors as "she". Men also are survivors of domestic assault, but the way she talks about it makes it sound like only men can be perpetrators.
She's old skool 😎
I was thinking the same thing! I think she is focused on women victims and not even acknowledging men can be victims too.
Omg I was thinking there same thing! She's clearly biased
She was implying "amber" with every "she".
And "he" was "Johnny"
That doctor's entire testimony was hearsay. Disgraceful.
ALL based on Ambers words. And she’s already been proven to be a liar.
Ammunition for the plaintiff
Yeah. Dr Curry is the truth💖✨
Yeah but JDs attorneys did not protest so it's probably ok. They didn't have to because of one simple reason. They are right and have evidence. Heard can sit like this :( all the time
@@osleg1460 They might demolish her tomorrow. At least I hope...
it’s astounding how confidently this ‘psychologist’ can talk on events they were not present for. it’s incredibly unprofessional.
She’s not a psychiatrist……
She used her "expertise" (experience and qualifications) to introduce anything,
anything, as an absolute truth. That's because she is biased, certificated board psychologist,but biased.
Not only did they use Dr. Hughes expert position to claim sided statements as truth, but they also unsuccesfully tried to allocate that accusation to Dr. Curry. Despicable to say the least.
Dr Curry was hired by JD's team, but she was ordered by judge, while Dr. Hughes was hired by AH's team and wasn't ordered by anyone.
BTW, Dr. Hughues is not a psychiatrist, but a psychologist certified on forensics psychology. Yet she stated that Ms. Heard had no eating disorders, which is against reported info (notes) of a nurse (medical staff) who actually was treating Ms. Heard on eating disorders recovery, among other things. Out of 16 specialization anyone can see in ABPP, forensic is one. She isn't specialized nor certificated either, in rehabilitation, behavior, couple & family, or clinical health. Yet she claimed a lot out and far away of the scope of what she is guaranteed for, and her scope. Not to mention from her field
@Archie Baldwin She gave testimony, as an expert, beyond scope of psychology. Offered warranted statement (actually hearsay) about SA with a vodka bottle that forensic M.D. would struggle to ascertain for sure; swapped eating disorder to angst and conducted a soft test (PAI) to check her own beliefs, to overlap the testimony and verified written attestation of M.D. and other colleagues, among other thing.
Her allocation of DV or Ph.V. to men, has raised upset even among women (many psychologists and educators among them) and was kind of funny to ask: "do you recognize that there're some stereotypes?" "do you recognize that the majority of men are the perpetrators, but there're also women?" Yes. "But then women also can be violent?" No.
Tests are so, that if you asked if emotional state changes a lot, but switching 1 or 2 times per week, then is bipolar, but if it fluctuates a lot within a day or a few hours, then is BPD. Hence, the argument a lie can be a little bit important in psychology.
Not to mention she said who's innocent and who's guilty, with no room to doubt, when an expert in court (as for expert opinion is concerned) would give scientific trues and foundations to sustain assumptions, not make assumptions as scientific truths,plus they were gender biased professes.
But of course, you're right, we were the exceedingly biased
Lucy, Heard's "Doc" is a psychologist board certified in "talking to a jury" Forensic Psychologist Board Certified. What a hateful looking woman. Clearly she hates men and knows not of which she speaks.
@Archie Baldwin found Amber's PR team
Things to show my hubby later:
01:56:35 Motion to stike
02:21:45 Everybody and their grandmother
05:37:00 "Dr Curry... I mean. Dr. Hughes."
05:44:00 Dr Hughes refreshing her memory and getting frustrated with the objections
05:45:10 Camera panning to Dr Curry
05:52:15 We are back to reading
06:21:29 Cavity search
Ps. I guess Amber's witnesses are trained to turn to the jury when they answer..
Motion to "stike"
3:55:00 dr Hughes testimony begins
She talks as if she was there with them…Her vibe is like a gossiping neighbour as opposed to a psychologist…I mean I hope the jury is able to see what a sham this is
She is a low perdón
💯💯💯
NO !! you all talk like if you knew JD personally and the thing is you weren’t there with them either so stop defending him like the victim come ON ‼️‼️
@@violetrosehdz1902 No, everyone is speaking based on the other witnesses and their testimonies. Even JD’s exes have come forward to defend him. Amber has been proven to be a liar countless times. You gotta be real slow to be team Amber
@@violetrosehdz1902 well...you weren't there either. So, stop acting like you know JD is the abuser.
“I didn’t punch you; I hit you. You’re a baby.”
This psychologist is unethical.
Amber sounds like the abuser
Yeah and it was infuriating when she referred to Amber’s violence as “light” 😡
Based on her 'testimony', Hughes shouldn't be practicing. She's disgraceful.
Depp admitted to head butting her. This psychologist specifically mentions the punching.
I have over 20 years experience from people with Borderline Personality Disorder, and it certainly seems true that Ms Amber Heard is suffering from this disorder. According to my experience with these people they ALWAYS view themselves as the victim in all situations. Even when they physically attack other people they view themselves as the victim of the situation.
I got teary eyes at 2:39:43 when Johnny and his lawyer Mr. Ben Chew hugged each other after the Judge denied Amber's team's motion to strike the lawsuit. I could easily see Mr. Chew and his team truly cares about Johnny and loves him ❤️
2:06:01
Lawyer: "Retweeting a link doesn't constitute re-publication"
Judge: "It does if you add something"
🔥
This woman acts like she’s Amber’s mother defending her- she is not an unbiased witness. I can’t wait for cross-examination tomorrow 🙌🏼
I hope they nail her tomorrow on cross. She blatantly lied several times. When she said no history of eating disorder...um...it was in the nurses notes in client history from AH that there had been a history of ED. 🤦♀️🤦♀️
She’s arrogant. She looks like a disorganized mess. Like the rest of Amber’s team. JDs attorneys should request her notes. She rattled off her credentials for 30 minutes without pause but can’t remember the tests she administered without looking?
@@CH-kr2df 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏
thats her job . more than his one sayin i do not recall about everything 🙄 .
God, please let it be good.
The fact that this woman didn’t agree with anything Dr Curry said just goes to show she was 100% in defense of Amber.
So was this psychologist testifying for amber?
@@MattLongballs yeah, the prosection rested their case earlier so now it's the defense summoning witnesses
I thought she was very bias. In a way when she said Amber was most like acting in defence in terms of insults and assault. Surely this could be reversed to Johnny? I look forward to cross examination tomorrow. I still feel Amber has lied to majority. I don’t think either are completely innocent. Something is definitely not sitting right.
Shes literally a defence witness. As Dr Curry was prosecution witness briefed and payed for by Depp.
@@kathrynbeetham5308 You're missing the point, even as a defence witness, if you disagree with every single point... that's kind of sus, at least pretend to not be biased.
Mrs. Hughes, shows how absolutely impressive Dr. Curry is! As a military spouse I really hate when these type of therapists throw out misdiagnosis’s of PTSD…..
What do you mean as a military spouse? And about misdiagnosis?
You don't need to be just in the Military to suffer from PSTD it's any one truama , CPSTD is multiple traumas.
My husband has PTSD and he’s never been in the military
@@eliziuimjane8327 Exactly
@@sarahwynn6486 Exactly
Its driving me INSANE hearing Dr. Hughes talking about the alleged events Amber told her....why is she being allowed to say these things on the stand??
Right and when other people are testifying there’s a million “hearsay”s 😐😐😐😐😍
im gonna go crazy listening to her
Expert witnesses can make statements that fact witnesses cannot.
For real!!!!
As soon as she started automatically describing victims as “her” and perpetrators as “he” and started talking about how physical size is a factor, I knew she was going to be bias.
Agreed
I thought so too. She has all the education behind her you would have thought she would have used the term he or she to eliminate bias. No matter that most of her clients might be female using “her” as being the victim is not good.
It’s as though she is telling what has happened to Amber. Absolutely disgraceful.
Yup. Same here.
Giving a bad name to the field of trauma treatment, honestly.
THIS! I hope the jury noticed that
As a therapist; this therapist tried hard to gas light us but her claims don’t support the evidence. The first psychologist hit it right on. Working with others who have BPD, Amber hits all 9 markers to a T.
Thank you,as a person who has BPD
myself I felt that she must have too after the second day of the trail!!
What does the Boston Police Department have to do with all this?
She has huge sociopathic traits ladies and gentlemen. Borderline Personality Disorder is the least of her problems. I hope she gets the taste of her own crap, pun intended.
@@Adan209G 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isn't it unprofessional as a therapist to diagnose someone you havent ever met or spoken to? Not defending amber heard, but dude..
I love how Mr. Chew handled The arguments when her lawyers wanted to dismiss the case
Well done Ben Chu. I would hire him as a lawyer for sure. The annunciation, the firm tone, his intelligence, and research representation is highly impressive.
Rottenborn’s childish temper tantrums, bullying and manipulation attempts just don’t compare.
JD should easily win this by a landslide. We can all tell Amber and her lawyers are overly corrupt.
The motion to strike really showed the difference in quality between the two legal teams. Every argument Mr Chew put forward had reference to legal precedent or specific witness statements, his team had already anticipated Mr Rottenborn's arguments and sqished them flat. 😂 Outstanding.
Dr. Curry was so professional and even stated it was not her job as a forensic psychologist to assess wether certain things happened, but only to evaluate the patient and try to support them.
nevermind the fact that everything she was speaking on was completely hearsay--like Johnny said "were you there?"
100%
My guess is that this comment from Dr Curry was in preparation for today. She was preemptively throwing shades at Dr Hughes. Their respective opinions are already known by both sides, plus I think they both testified in the UK trial. Curry came prepared.
@@Djorgal neither testified in the UK trial. UK didn't allow any specialists including Dr Kipper and the nurses. Dr Curry stated she used those depositions and trial records (as well as previous psychological assessments from Heards psychologist before the marriage) in her assessment.
That's why I think Dr Curry is much more prepared in making her diagnosis. Including the use of a diagnostic tests. While Dr Hughes just seems to have taken interviews with Amber and taking her at her word.
Doubt it
Please put Dr. Curry back on the stand to point out everything dr. Hughes did wrong.🙏🏽
I so hope they do recall her.
@@juliannarathmell they can’t, she was in court for Hughes’ testimony 😢
@@rileyg137 Experts are allowed to be.
@@Feverm00n She was not sworn in as an expert though
@@Feverm00n Dr Curry is however making notes so she may provide this to JD’s lawyers for their cross
Wow when she describes what constitutes Intimate Partner Violence, it sounded so familiar… almost like I’ve spent the last 12 days listening to people describe all of those behaviors in Amber in clear, consistent detail, while under oath.
I was thinking exactly the same thing!!!
This is exactly what I thought the entire time!
Let's hope the Jury see what we all see
Exactly my thoughts! And I'm so disturbed by her using females as victims and men as perpetrators without fail.
She goes from having a post it note, to a cheat sheet to a filing cabinet in her purse.
I love how Hughes doesn’t need her “notes” when she’s describing everything she said to her but when it comes to the tests she gave she had to “refer to notes”
Good spot
omg yeah well spotted there
O that is very true!
what happened to the "and, do you recall....?" that was used by the defence lawyer every other question at other times?
Touché
She actually sounded like she was describing her own client... Trust me If JD was a woman abuser, there were be a parade of other women testifying against him....
I agree, His 30+ years in Hollywood, Wouldn't there be another woman coming out?
facts no cap!
Not necessarily, but it does (to me) say something that he’s had long term partners back him! And not ones who’ve retracted accusations, either, like Amber’s ex.
That was exactly what I was thinking that she was describing her own client 🤯
You meant "a Paradis" of women testifying?
The fact that this doctor has allegedly acted as an expert witness in so many cases but still doesn’t realise how unprofessional she is by checking her notes without leave and the *reliance* on her notes is maddening to me.
The doctor repeatedly used she/her pronouns when describing the victim and he/his when describing the abuser. If that's not biased, I don't know what is. And she calls herself a psychologist. She's a disgrace
Exactly!!!
the whole thing with the notes is ridiculous. Curry asked 3 times if she could just see her report because of all the results and they told her she had to speak off the top of her head. Now this doctor gets to look at her notes and saying, "I dont want to mess up from guessing." I hope this really gets called out.
Exactly - who makes these decisions? How are there different rules??
@@redsugar723 it just makes no sense. We will see what happens tomorrow. Hopefully that witness is just thrown out the window bc she had no real evidence..
Hope it offends and angers the jury as much as it does all of us watching from home
@@aquariusmoon771 agreed!
And you can see in the end, she put her notes back in her bag before they were able to grab them from her, when she opened her bag it was full of documents.. that was very sus.
This lady shouldn’t be a psychiatrist. She’s not morally qualified. Extremely biased, testifies in court about people’s relationship based off nothing but gossip from one side.
I feel like it was completely bs for the fact that she took her notes almost as if she didn’t write them. She would recall the exact opposite of what her notes said!!! Notes are taken for a reason & there’d be no reason for the psychiatrist to lie in her notes other than the fact that now she wants to hide the truth.
It does make sense for Amber and her attorneys to get a psychiatrist that doesn't exactly know what she's talking about. Leat Johnny and his attorneys got a doctor who knows what they're actually doing
She’s not a psychiatrist but I agree totally that she should not be a psychologist! So unbelievably biased and minimising all acts of female against male violence!
I’m curious what her thesis was…
She's never testified on behalf of a female abuser against a male victim in open court proceedings.
Attorney Ben Chew was incredible here! You could hear a pin drop when he shouted about Amber’s lies, etc., when he was describing her by talking like a girl with his actions too, I about fell off the chair dying laughing! That was So Good!! 🤣 Then when judge ruled in favor that there was enough evidence to proceed, the hug between Ben & JD melted my heart 💜 This made my day 🌼👍💕
🔥🔥😌 loved him for this moment
What is the time range for your reference? Please and thank you!
His indignation with Amber was so heartfelt and clear! Bravo Ben Chew 😊
Beautiful Dr. Curry in the back, I love how they zoomed in on her! I really wish I could hear what she's thinking 🤔
... I do believe Dr Curry will have her day when they 'recall' her at some point AND u can bet that time will b monumental to the outcome of this case ... I know myself along with JD cant wait
This doctor talked like SHE LIVES in Johnny's penthouse, that she SAW everything. Like the bodyguards, assistants etc
That crazy person…and why is she talking to the jury directly no one else has really done that she cra cra
@@kjreborns178 that’s how professionals and expert witnesses are trained to testify. The jury is the one that is deciding on the evidence so therefore they should be addressed directly.
The "hearsay" witness should've never been allowed. Fyi what it's been reported, it's a mostly male jury. I hope they see things from their own shoes than focusing on being hard on another man (which they also reported usually happens).
Isn't this hearsay. Sounds like b.s. to me.
Will Amber testify herself?
She isn’t required to do so, and this doctor testified on her behalf.
I can't take this "forensic psychologist" seriously because she's testifying on events that she never witnessed about someone she's never had as a client nor probably even met.
Exactly
I was so shocked at how they let her go on telling the jury with implied authority, that Johnny Depp did this and that to Amber...... based on what? What Amber said? He isn't arguing that she said it, he is arguing that it isn't true... she formed the opinion that Johnny is the perpetrator based on things Amber said. It seems a little circular to me. She also totally ignored the part where Dr Anderson said Amber was the instigator... and even reported the opposite. I can't believe her expert testimony was essentially gossip.
Hearsay
im annoyed at her bias gender references..she she she
Basically she’s like a friend Amber gossiped to and repeated everything Amber said as if it’s the truth. She didn’t have any test on Jonny but claimed that he has done this and that as if she was there witnessing them
I knew someone who went to a therapist before she decided to divorce her husband of 30 years. When the therapist asked her questions about what her husband had done through the years that were painful, abusive, corrosive, and horrible, she could wax on and on about his faults. (She thought this therapist was outstanding.) But once the therapist asked her what actions she may have done that could be construed as painful, abusive, corrosive, and horrible towards her husband, she not only had nothing to say, she was terribly offended. She quit therapy the following session.
I’ve had over 10 years of therapy myself, and I’ve learned one immutable fact about how it helps a patient: It actually only helps IF you can be honest with yourself - which is often very difficult. You have to “own-up” to your own follies and flaws, instead of blaming those around you. After listening to this psychologist, I really don’t think Amber has been honest with anyone. She’s like “The Three Faces of Eve.” How sad.
Knowing that there are “doctors”, like Dawn Hughes, out there is frightening. She began her testimony, when discussing her experience, with an obvious bias. She wasn’t discussing Depp/Heard yet, she was listing her training. In doing so, she describes the batterers as male, the victims as female. And, continues that bias when using examples, even though the gender switch occurs all the time. Even one of Amber’s lawyers, in the back, appeared to be puzzled by her statements.
Nearly every descriptor regarding the “cycle of violence”, matches, exactly, with the testimony of the experts & witnesses...That Amber was the aggressor & would exhibit contrition, then back again in her never ending, circular arguments. I haven’t watched the cross, but I’m looking forward to it.
This “professional “ should not have been allowed to say anything about what Johnny Depp endured because she never tested him, it’s all just what amber and those close to her claim happened in the relationship
I agree. Dr Curry made a point of always saying REPORTED and that therapists are NO
T investigators
she claims she used femal victim because of this case, yet she's never testified in open court about female abusers
@@L0vetube1 I was wondering that as well.
That is not bias, you fool. That is statistics. 85% of victims are female. Dr Hughes is highly experienced with all the education to back it. She wasn't the biased one, she wasn't the one fraternising with Depp having drinks and dinner. Dr Hughes explained all her psychometric tests in detail with her obvious knowledge and understanding of statistics backing it. Curry did not do that, she waffled on and on, loving the sound of her own voice.
As a psychiatrist resident I agree, she can not speak on what she did not witness. It’s not only unethical but also perjury. We listen and advocate for our clients that our job however there is an extremely thick line that every good therapist knows never to cross and that is to talk “gossip” with the client and then make her account of what happened As total truth. Which is not the job at all. What I think is this is a disgusting farce to all those of us who work hard to advocate for our clients but in a healthy way. We don’t encourage hearsay and who said what,it is about her and how she feels and why period. That does not make it truth. Dr Curry was 100 percent spot on, I would have added narcissistic tendencies and leaned more towards sociopathic tendencies.
Then what didn’t depp lawyers object to her spinning stories ?
It's not perjury. But yeah, completely unethical. I'd love to see that therapist be brought in front of an ethics board. Maybe get her license revoked?
Ironically- she states that she teaches Ethics courses at University! lolololol… oy vey! 🙄😳
@@JJ-hr7dd I share the same credentials as her or I will when I graduate. I am saying those tests make things very clear to read, they can only be interpreted by an OBJECTIVE view point. We do not advocate subjective cafe because personal opinions have no place in situations such of these. It’s the facts that are relevant period.
@@Sevencoins7 Because these are bullets that will be used against while Amber is testifying !. How could she back all these accusations and counter all evidences provided by JDs team. I watched a clip of her deposition where she even gave her own lawyer run for his life
It feels like we've completely departed from forensic psychology and now have someone else testifying on Amber's behalf, based only on what Amber said to her.
Exactly. There is no genuine objective interpretation but she is just following a script.
Right!
Paid off expert witness.
4:53:21 even mr. Rottenborn had facepalm from her shameless nonsense and bias. )))
nevermind the fact that everything she was speaking on was completely hearsay--like Johnny said "were you there?"
Even Amber's therapist is aggressive in her demeanor. These people are sickening
It’s quite fitting that AH’s team picked that hot mess of a “expert” witness! She’s more unorganized and unprofessional than AH’s female lawyer if that’s even possible!
Double clowns 🤡 🤡
Sounded badass when she was listing all her qualifications ... but I guess that doesn't say much.
@@TheRealGSmith Right! At first I was a bit worried she was going to be a credible expert witness. Didn’t take long for her to screw that up.
@@TheRealGSmith I've seen so many people who look good on paper and can't back up their qualifications in real life. For someone who is board certified, she doesn't carry herself as such.
If you could use a clinical psychologist to conclude whether or not an event occurred then there would be no need for this trial. This expert witness has no business making claims about events that she did not witness, despite the fact that she thinks she does. Hopefully the jury can see that. It’s completely ridiculous.
Exactly! Shocked this was allowed.
Again, she never said that is what happened! She's talking about the facts of interdomestic violence. She's reiterating everything Amber reported in the tests she was given. Obviously Amber over exaggerated in her reports to make herself seem like a victim. Hughes is not in any way saying that is what happened. She's talking about the facts of things that happen in these types of relationships. She's simply reporting all that Amber said was going on.
She also went over the tests that Shannon Curry administered and said Amber didn't show any markers for BPD, etc. Do none of you understand that? I don't think she's trying to defend Amber Heard, she's simply going over all the test scores and details Amber reported, etc. She's simply doing her job and all of you are criticizing her.
@@jennasmith7493 that’s not really the role of a forensic psychologist tho, to just regurgitate what the person said to them. A voice recorder can do that. The point is to use your expertise to draw informed, evidence-based conclusions with methods that can be clearly communicated.
Her only defense is that she didn’t mention his name in the article. But then she is trying to “prove” that he is an abuser. That fact alone implies and proves that she was referring to him! Wtf. I’m gonna write here for all the world to see that “someone” hit me, then I’ll try to convince the judge that YOU hit me repeatedly, then I’m gonna say I wasn’t referring to you 😂😂😂 The audacity
Exactly
Great point.
Nevermind the testimony by the ACLU counsel that her original draft identified Johnny and she wanted the identifying information to stay in the article when she was told by the ACLU attorney and her own to remove it.
Literally this
Also there's recorded conversation where she even mentions that she's going to have to go to court and prove it all the discussion between her and Johnny...
Also, can I just say how much more I appreciate Dr. Curry’s statement that it is not the job of the psychologist to determine if something occurred or not after having suffered through the last half of AH’s psych’s testimony? Dr. Hughs seems suspiciously preoccupied with “proving” the DV Amber alleges actually happened. Even tho all of her “evidence” was just… Amber saying so.
Dr Curry was 100% correct in saying that. Psychologists are not detectives. Her explanation on the differences between psychiatrists, treating psychologists, clinical psychologists and forensic psychologists was also very accurate and relevant to this case. The treating psychologists did give their opinions on potential diagnosis but were not qualified to do so and did not use any diagnostic tools.
Diagnosis of PTSD often requires more than self-report (medical records, service records, disclosure from family and close friends) because there are symptoms which overlap with other mental illnesses. A person can be experiencing trauma or complex trauma without having PTSD. A person can have borderline personality disorder with comorbidity of histrionic personality disorder and have experienced trauma. As an expert on PTSD, I believe that Dr Curry would have tested Amber for it if she saw any symptoms in her records. It could have even helped Johnny's case if she could show that the symptoms began before her relationship with Johnny.
@@tstarr8314 Dr Curry did test her for it tho right? She used the CAPS 5? Or do you mean if Dr Curry had been treating her rather than evaluating her?
I guess diagnosis in a legal setting may be different than diagnosis outside of a legal setting. I saw a very well-educated, highly regarded trauma specialist (PsyD), and she didn’t require medical records when assessing me for PTSD & a dissociative disorder. But maybe it’s different if it’s being done in the context of a trial.
@@Feverm00n TBH I can't remember which tests Dr Curry said that she administered at this point. While it was less than the other psychologist, they were more in-depth assessments and relevant to the context.
I based my comment on requiring medical records, etc on the experiences of people in my life. Dr Curry's experience has centred around veterans. Veterans I know all had to submit their service records, medical records, and their partners/adult children were also interviewed. I'm also not American so it is broadly practiced, but could be influenced by government policy.
Re. assessment for treatment vs assessment for a trial. It's possible that there are differences in the process but the same tests should be used. Assessment for treatment is often ongoing throughout the treatment while an expert witness has limited access to the person they are assessing.
@@Feverm00n it's not so much a difference in how it's used in a legal setting but rather a matter of "on the books" or not. Since none of the doctor's or specialists she saw actually went through the process of
•proposing a possible diagnosis
•having the client fill out relevant surveys and diagnostic tools
•assess the findings and concluding the standards for diagnosis have been met
•add this diagnosis to the clients permanent medical records and amend related paperwork
If that process isn't started and completed at some point a person can live with PTSD, a personality disorders or other mental illness for their entire life but according to the record they have "no prior history of mental illness" and "never diagnosed"
Ofc you'd expect mental health professionals to note any suspicions of a diagnosis that fits and to bring that up with their client but beyond that there's no duty to go through the process of diagnosis if the client hasn't asked for help regarding those disorders.
I keep using client because it's important to remember that these are privately hired high-end professionals who's job is to help and support the client with whatever problems they want solved (+medication oversight).
Cluster B personality disorders aren't something people are eager to get diagnosed and stapled to their medical files and i doubt amber would have taken well to being asked if she'd considered it (even before johnny learned what bpd is)
@@loralea3142 most mental healthcare providers use client now, that’s a norm from concierge stuff like in this case and LCSWs serving people on Medicaid.
And in most cases where insurance is involved, a dx literally must be given for someone to receive reimbursement for care. So yeah in AHs case it could be that she was never given any kind of dx since she could do high end out of network providers.
I LOVE how this woman acts like she was in a truple with them the ENTIRE time. Her ENTIRE testimony is in 1st person... she never left their side, was there EVERY moment. Absolutely ridiculous.
Imagine how many lives she ruined with this “she” thing. She say she was in like 50 courts?
all those credentials she listed and she was still duped by AH's really poor acting skills.
Add on her training interns to the future ruined lives.
I noticed that, also. So much bias in her testimony.
@@lisadennis5000 when is the next trial?
@@masterpiece1894 hands down, best comment in the last 13 days 🤣🤣
This “expert witness” shouldn’t be allowed to be in a court of law where she is only able to spew out grossly biased information.
yes
Dr Curry should have the right to reply
It’s like she’s reading off a script they have provided for her
I think someone needs to check and see if they can take her license or at least put her on trile and see how many she has misdiagnosed and it's done harm.
Has Elaine ever actually debated against an objection made against her or her questioning? All I've notice is her saying "I don't agree" or "I'm allowed to ask that" or "(the witness) can do/say that". Not once have I heard her actually give an intelligent argument against any of Johnny's attorney's objections
Yeah she seems like she's not all there ...how she became a lawyer is beyond me. She doesnt seem to have the intlelegence for it.
As a clinical psychologist I feel kinda angry for what this colleague is doing here. A therapist is not a friend, this is not even helpful therapy-wise for the patient when this line is crossed. Our role is not to determine what is true or lie and it is indeed important to create and hold a safe space for our patient, but it's very important to become objective enough to understand if there are lies/manipulation (including towards us) and what role these patterns play in our patient's inner structure. There's no other way to do a good job as a therapist. For Amber (or anybody else) this is not what you need from a therapist. This distorts the importance and understanding of our job and the beauty and importance of it. Geez!... How can a 30yo of experience in the field do this... :(( And now of course she'll become defensive because the other way around would be her acknowledging that as a therapist she might have made a mistake (that I should say it's kinda easy to happen when there are personality disorders involved. I'm not saying there are, but if they are there.. It's a more complicated case... Anyway... What a mess)
Edit: just got to know she is/was not her therapist (thank goodness), but the crossing line of objectivity is also supposed to be even more present...
Thank you so much for saying this 💕
I agree with you 100%. I have worked with victims of domestic violence for over 30 yrs. It has never been my job to determine if a crime has been committed or to determine who committed it, if it did. If I observe injuries, I will document them and photograph them at the behest of the client. We are supportive and helpful, but we must remain objective because we can’t really know the whole story , we are only hearing half the story.
I like how all of a sudden Amber is alert and paying attention, not writing stuff down because she knows this woman is in her favor. I hope the jury nor the judge is falling for this BS.
Shes writing the whole time at the beginning. Im only about 30 minutes in and shes been writing...seems odd too.
I noticed that too.
@Madelynn Wilson yes! Noticed that too… over acting ‘sadness’..
Do you know around what time stamp you're referring to? I'd like to jump to it!
She’s been doodling more conjured up lies or doodling Amber forever
Johnny’s witness Dr. Curry was a WAY more prepared psychologist than Amber’s witness, Dr. Hughes-who couldn’t even remember anything without looking down on her notes which is a big no-no in court!
Absolutely
Yep
She is not professional
Agreed! And this doctor looks like a total phony, the type of doctor that will cut your feet off over a hurt toenail.
Absolutely right
If she's testified in so many cases, she should know she can't read from her notes. What a joke.
Am i the only one confused as to how she can be a board qualified specialist in domestic violence, but then justify physical violence withjn a relationship? Does this not contradict her whole testimony??
Good catch
And can someone tell me how she lose perspective in her objective analysis ?
She 's talking like everything is fact , she is talking as if she has proof how a judge can let this come ... that trial is crazy
Yeah. Scary. He's abusive, she's just upset/mad.
Terrible assessment by the “psychologist” unprofessional. Why is she telling a story rather than offering a science-based evaluation
Wtf were you listening to? The whole lot was far more scientific testing based than any other witness
Ki Ki - new Ambushpoo PR team. You guys only make it worse for her.
@@KiKi-te9yd 😂😂😂 As one highly familiar with the tests cited, she manipulated data in a way to come off as such. However the majority of the testimony was just regurgitating Heard's allegations, which isn't psychology, professional, within her field to confidently make those assessments (especially without even minimal assessment of Depp himself), and relies on the trustworthiness of a woman perpetually proven untrustworthy. Add to that the seemingly scripted and baseless ranting (accusations without any direct evidence) directly to the jury, the failure to address male victims of dv and emotionally divert to gender rather than evidence, the audacity of reading in court as a "professional" witness, and the failure to turn over the correct documents as demanded by the judge (the ones likely provided by Amber's team went in the green folder, whereas she reproduced the blue).
As one studied in the science you claim, this woman was coached, unprofessional, and pathetically unscientific in the majority of her testimony, to the degree of purgery.
@@lukasjed5725 mature 👍
@@adamoutlnd7609 oh what rubbish.
And as for the manipulation of data... listen again. That was part of the testing and the extensive TESTING showed she wasnt feigning or maligning.
But hey, carry on believing your own story.
ugh.. I can't believe this woman is a certified psychologist and has treated many people. how SCARY is that! all I can think of ,is how many people got away with being abusive, because according to her, MEN can ONLY be abusive. chillssssss😖
I'm so glad others saw right through because I was like am I overthinking this or does the psychologist need a psychologist lol
Apparently the LGBT community can do what they want even when it comes to law.
Or how many men are in jail that she testified against that were actually the victims!
Ever think she might be a victim?
@@LeeAnneG Are u a victim? Have u experienced what she is describing what happened because I am and have! I dont believe she is a victim I believe she was the abuser! She hasn't shed a single tear! That's just one thing to point out!
His attorney did so well in his response to their motion to strike. He did his homework very well, citing other court cases and quoting other cases. Amber wishes she had his attorneys, I know it!!
I'm so glad I'm watching these after the trial ended because this is making my blood boil! For a clinical psychologist, her testimony is clinically insane! I'm surprised JD's attorneys didn't object to every word she spewed but I feel like they intentionally let her ramble on like a menopausal cat who really wants to be in heat because they know that her verbal diarrhea will serve them and destroy her credibility!
Why was she able to remember events like the airplane situation but couldn’t remember anything else had to go read her notes ??? WHY was she allowed to have notes?
experts are allowed to have notes to refer to. Cops are allowed to have police reports to refer to. They just can't read directly. It is to refresh memory.
All her 'stories' are heresy guys...Ambers words or her own. Let's hope jury sees thru it.
She was also very touchy about giving her notes over. She slapped the notes down when handing them over like she was angry/annoyed about sharing them with others. She also never once looked ahead like she didn't want to meet eye contact with Depp. After any objection, she rolled her eyes. When she was done, she stood up with her arms fold, like someone having a tantrum. She's taking this very personally and I don't understand why. Overall she had a very 'know it all', snotty demeanor about herself.
@@lesliekenyon7487 Dr Curry wasn't allowed to have her report to refer to. Even though she asked if they could bring it up and she would be happy to discuss it with them. She couldn't refresh her memory at any point either. Dr Hughes kept reading her notes every time the Attorney's approached the Judge.
@@ha8236 Yes, Dr. Curry kept on saying: " I don't have my report in front of me" .
"A drug addict is a liar, persuasive, tries to rationalize and blame everyone else for their addiction."
News flash for you Doc - I'm a drug addict of 6 years and alcohol for over 10 yeqrs and I blame no one but myself for the situation I'm in.
I hope you're doing OK ❤️
Just said a prayer for you...stay strong!
Totally agree...had a problem with addiction myself been clean 15yrs now but i have & never would blame anyone but myself...
I feel theyre demonising people struggling with addiction so much. Is it not an illness?! Some say a disease. Should they not be sympathised with...at least some empathy.
my family is addicted to alcohol... and no one is a liar... no one its crazy and drives me crazy. i had bf who were drug addicted. No one of them ! i repeat no one , ever lied on anything . I can only agree to you
According to this shrink. Spitting in someone’s face, punching them in the face, throwing items at them, pooping in their bed, are considered low low levels of violence.
I bet if a man did that it would be considered EXTREME VIOLENCE
This woman should lose whatever "license" she has. Jesus, how many lives has this woman ruined?!
As a victim of DV and SA i find it horribly offensive she’s falsely accusing the man as a scapegoat. She’s a mockery to everyone and anyone who has ever fallen victim. Dr Hugh’s is a joke and is beyond biased. Evidence has proven clearly that amber is the instigator and abuser. I hope she loses everything
Crazy how she didn’t even assess Johnny yet spoke of him like she did!
For me, the most telling incident that proves Johnny Depp is not abusive is that she survived the pooping incident unscathed. A truly abusive man would have responded to that incident in a horribly abusive way i.e. she would have been the hospital fighting for her life. These false accusations demean every woman that is a true victim of domestic violence.
At the beggining, she already referred to victims only as “she” or “women”, like already stating that male cannot be victim of DV, such bias, and also taking what AH said as complete truth, not even trying to be objective!
@@leldesaulite-rozite She should have used the terms "perpetrator" and "victim".
Seriously. Im also a survivor and would never want to shame another survivor , or put them in a situation where they don’t feel believed. That’s how sure I am that she’s a total liar and used terrible trauma that we go through to further her agenda. She is a succubus. The timeline all makes sense. Right when he tells her he wants a divorce she files first so she didn’t have to tell ppl she got abandoned and then tried to punish him through the press and with legal threat.
This whole thing is tragic. The amount of people this lie has affected, amount of money and time, all from her throwing a tantrum from not getting her way. It’s vile.
It seems Amber and her attorneys looked up the characteristics of lethal domestic violence and all of a sudden accused JD of every single one of them. This is just too absurdly coincidental to be believed.
Exaggerated and desperate, indeed. Either she's the most gullible psychologist ever or she's an outright pathological, mealy-mouthed liar. Either way, not a soul, including AH will get any lasting and substantial help from this type of namby pamby, coddling. She's just encouraging AH's delusions and bad behavior. Too many inconsistencies to list. Plus, many of her judgment calls on various aspects are easily ambivalent - that is, they could be rationally deduced to mean the exact opposite of her findings.
@@user-wz4hr5xu4k when is the next trial?
Right??? She’s very detailed
Exactly!! ‘She was so scared of him he showed up at her sets etc’ - yeah okay she had the balls to bring 2 diff men back to their apartment. This Dr is hypnotised 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I know right? Throughout the stand I felt the same !!
Rottenborn is such a tool. I hate how he doesn't let the witness answer.
As soon as the psychologist made a point to designate the victim as female and the abuser as male in discussing victim and abuser roles in general, she lost all credibility.
Dr. Hughes told the judge "I don't want this to be a memory test"... Her statement says it all right there for me.
Yeah clearly she doesn't understand how court works and why impeachments exist. They're not there to give you a mark at the end to see how well you've done. Impeachment is to show inconsistencies, not to make sure you've correctly remembered what you said earlier as if they care about testing you.
This doctor is a bit bias n frequently referring to women as victims of abust
Bc she had a script! Elaine said after a plaintiff objection “let’s move to after the text” like there’s a script and you would say “let’s skip line 50-59 and go to 60” at 6:31:00
They moved to something that had nothing to do with another text. And the papers thing at the end was v suspect
@@clevermissfox Exactly. I am anxious to see the cross examination today. This examiner opened many doors for the Depp's team especially at the end regarding her statement on the headline and it's affect on Amber.
“I’m not punching you , I’m hitting you” -amber heard . This is proof and this tells us everything we need to know
Naomi Doner, it’s sad, but I had my grandma who was bitten by her husband….always the bruises around fer eyes started from inside the nose under eye towards the temples. She clearly has some stains, red eyes from crying, scratching her face… she didn’t even went to a real doctor or nurse, she just send the pics
Right
@@naomidoner9803 Amelia Rose actually made a very good point. She has been attentive, and that is what you want in a juror.
@@naomidoner9803 👏
big facts
💯
Mr Chew's argument was so perfect and with such passion!!
How was she allowed to go on and on saying things she has zero evidence of? Also only things she’s heard from other people! Insane!
A forensic clinical psychologist of 30 years with that type of attitude/demeanor? Wtf. I have no words. She terrifies me.
I agree she terrified me too ....she should be under examination by the appropriate authority -
There are a number of professionals in psych field that are twisted and whackadoodle themselves, a higher percentage than other industries. This woman is def one of them and is a man hater .
Yeah, the eye rolling and general attitude is unbelievable, but fits right in with AH other buffoons 😁
The irony is that every single thing she said in defense of Heard- it all applied to Depp! I was marking off the mental checklist as she went along. And how can you possibly put 100% of the wrong on one person after hearing all that audio? Completely bonkers!
thats why she kept using she instead of the victim, lol
Because she's unethical and because $$$
You called it. I was hearing the same things. Like how the constant pressure causes people to lose their autonomy….Johnnys interest was to not have a divorce. He didn’t want that so he tried to show her he cared by leaving the situation, so no further harm could possibly occur to ‘let cooler heads prevail’ . But she just tried to keep the pressure on. By chasing wherever he ran. Any way psychology is very sketchy science, you can’t prove what’s going on in peoples minds….
Does anyone really believe that Johnny Depp would push someone down a flight of stairs? Cmon. I don’t buy that at all
@@jordanmusikwerks1047 of all the things AH recorded, somehow this argument was not? that is so weird. Unless they have it and have not submitted it yet. Until then, I'll keep doubting until proven guilty.
Judge Azcarate has such an annoyed look during the defense’s motion for dismissal lol
Wow, this Dr is horrible in court. Even if I had her on my side, I would want her to stay to facts and not tell stories. She was talking about texts, quoted what people supposedly did or said and talked about situations as if she was there and not just had heard all this from a one sided interview.
This was 100% hearsay.
If all she did was administer self reporting PTSD tests to Amber alone, then how could she know if Amber has a personality disorder that caused her to lie? Answer: she couldn’t.
Yup. She's biased as a Dr would be if she was treating her.
Even also, she can take her fathers behaviors and answer it as was Johnny's
@@juliezzjemzz3320 This lady was way more biased than just being her dr. She was biased so much that I now believe amber paid her a lot extra to make her look better
It’s amazing how you can say she was biased while simple stating her expert findings, whilst the same is no applied to Dr. Curry attending Johnny Depp house for dinner and drinks 😂
LMAO You all are grasping for straws. It's like you don't get how many hours goes into interviewing and then answering questions that prove if you're lying. Then all the testimony from Amber trying to save the marriage before it was over. Depp admitting to hitting her and then storming off from the sessions angry isn't good. Keep thinking she's the one that is crazy. I knew he was worse just how sociopathic he talked in texts.
Oh my god…so you’re telling me that she recorded all the conversations and recorded him slamming cabinets but she didn’t take pictures of the bruising or cuts she got from being kicked in the back or from him dragging her through broken glass?! Is that what she’s trying to say?!
I keep saying this, Amber said how she was cut up and her feet kept touching the broken glass getting cut, and I’m wondering why she took photos of her ‘bruised face’ and not the actual injuries from the broken glass 🙄🙄
Rottenborn does a poor job questioning witnesses. The fact he has the audacity to cut off witnesses mid answer, refused them to elaborate, and only fishes for answers that benefit his client leave much to be desired; that’s sugar coating it.
Am I the only one who finds it odd that that psychologist (Dr Hughes?) talks to the jury when answering a question the exact same way Amber does??? 😳 she’s not even facing the lawyers asking her questions, she’s turned towards the jury and completely ignores the lawyers when answering 😳
Glad Dr. Curry mentioned in her testimony that a psychologist has to “believe” their client in order to find ways to treat them. Factual or not…
Yes! This is what I kept thinking about!
Nuff said.
AND she said psychologists don't detect crime.
except the part where dr hughes says she is hefty w skepticism when hearing from heard and all clients and reviews actual evidence and witness statements unlike dr curry who uses self assessments/questionnaires. also dr curry spent 12 hours i believe assessing heard? dr hughes spent days upon days more across the span of weeks it seemed. that in itself just seems like a more diligent study and analysis. its like no one in the comments listened to the entirety of things- just what serves their beloved johnny depp.
@@ryanmccarthy7858 theres a difference between a psychologist you see everyday and a forensic psychologist (which is dr hughes) who is basically providing investigatory analysis for an event/crime through a psychological lens… and her specialty is intimate partner violence. did you not hear her say her first case was a lesbian couple in which a homicide happened?? jfc.
It’s interesting how Rottenborn and the rest of AH legal team were arguing that Amber never specially mentioned JD in that OPed yet here you have that psychologist basically admitting that Amber Heard did in fact say that Johnny Depp assaulted her.
Medical professionals must adhere to HIPPA laws and patient confidentiality...AH naming her alleged abuser to her doctor is strictly confidential unless subpoenaed to court as happened here
@@naomidoner9803 I totally get that. I’m just saying that on one hand, you have amber heard’s legal team making the argument that amber never meant JD in her OPed but then have this professional say otherwise. It basically kills one of the arguments that AH’s legal team has been trying to make since the beginning of this trial
When Johnny says the lawyers name, Rottenborn, it's hilarious! Is he using anyone else last name?
@@nelhoss97 It called motte-and-bailey argumentation.
@@nelhoss97 I understand your point. But AH's team are basically saying "Johnny was her abuser but she technically never named him in the Op-ed so even though it WAS Johnny, readers didn't know that." It's a strange one to argue because you have to simultaneously prove that Johnny did hit her whilst telling the jury that she didn't mean to say he hit her in what she wrote.
It's crazy how her testimony sounds like the opening statement Elaine gave when she lied about the make up brand. She is telling a whole story like if she was there. Which is hearsay.
HEARSAY HEARSAY HEARSAY HEARSAY
How they not calling hearsay for the doctors testimony 🧐
This Dr. was completely out of control on the stand and as a person watching I can see that she is literally reporting on the stand
gossip/hearsay told to her by amber as actual fact. I can only hope that the jury does not fall for this gross display of malpractice.
I hope JD's lawyers clear this Shenanigans up for the jury on cross examination. That was absolute b.s.
She’s not a psychologist, it’s Jane Curtin, they hired for the part 😁
Can’t believe this judge!
A woman who’s afraid her ex will kill her after leaving either goes into hiding, or stays with people so she feels safe, they don’t TAUNT him by living in the place he bought, have their friends live in his place, bring other men in and out…. 🤥
Exactly!! I’ve said the same thing. It’s not like she didn’t have the resources or means to get out of there if this was at all true.
Or poop on the bed. Don’t forget the poop. Lol
And the fact he says over and over that he wanted her to leave.
She filed for restraining order and then begged him to meet up with her. Make it make sense
Exactly I ran away so far blocked mutual people so they don’t know anything
Unbelievable. They let her talk about IPV for 30+ min as if this was relevant for this case. Why can she lecture about things that both say never happened? It’s like a general lecture on IPV.
She throws in so many behaviors that neither A nor J said ever happened. Why did no one interrupt her? What about relevance?
“We have to be careful of gendered stereotypes”
*proceeds to use “she” & “her” when describing the victim in her definitions and use “he/him” when describing the abuser*
I noticed that too! Definitely one sided
Ikr! This bugs me SO MUCH!
TIMESTAMPS DAY 13:
10:51 - Erin Falati (Amber Heard's Former Nurse) PART3
1:04:43 - Mike Spindler (Economic Damages Examiner)
1:56:28 - Arguments Outside Jury Presence
4:00:19 - Dr. Dawn Hughes (Forensic Psychologist)
5:24:54 - Dr. Dawn Hughes (Forensic Psychologist)
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We need more people like you…. Thank you 😊!!
We need more people like you…. Thank you 😊!!
You’re a Real one
The Real MVP.
Tips for examination: she kept referring women as the victim and men as the abuser, and she ignored the whole concept of men could be the victims as well. Also when she talked about violence she said “minimal” no psychiatric ever used that before. The way she talks tells that she’s biased Dr. curry did not choose a side she only presented her evaluation
that was disgraceful .. she was extremely biased
I caught that too. Disgusting behaviour from a so called expert witness
she also sayed mens are way less victims than woman . And sayed it in a way which made it sound that it is than also less bad. Very weird
Exactly my thoughts. Every time she refered to the victim and perpetrator in an objective medical explanation, she referred to the victim as female, and perpetrator as a male by default. Disgusting!
I noted this from the beginning
Funny that the only time she isn’t scribbling notes and has her body turned toward the jury is when she knows the witness is going to be in favor of her and she knows she has to show them her “tears”. 🙄 She’s such a bad actress you can tell she’s trying to make herself cry
It is so interesting to review these videos knowing the outcome of Johnny's defamation case against Amber Heard and that Johnny won each and every one of his claims against her. Johnny was very nervous during this Motion though and so happy when it was denied. Johnny had an almost insurmountable mountain to climb to prove defamation but he did it. The plotting and deception that Amber engaged in is tragic that his reputation plummeted after 2016 when Amber filed the TRO and flatlined in 2018 after the Op-ed! It was heartbreaking to hear the witness break it all down. Excellent job Ben Chew, et al!
She didnt remember anything earlier and needed her notes, then suddenly a miracle happened and she remembered every single little details as she was the one in a relationship with Johnny. How could she even trust that this is the truth? She should give her professional opinion and not just story telling. How come she didnt diagnose AH that she exagerate everything, no personality disorderS? Come on, she was totally paid
@Ruby.... i Totally agree!
Totally paid by Elon
Paperback Writer
Totally agree. So transparent and such pathetic attempt!
For real!
"I can't wait to oppose this." - Ben Chew 2:06:26
What a boss. 😂
It actually made me cackle. Bless the warranted sassiness of this man. Of Johnny's entire team, really.
Omg she stares at the jury just like Heard,
Wow! The total DISRESPECT for the court shown by Dawn Hughes on multiple occasions throughout her testimony is absolutely shocking. Too bad the judge didn't notice all the gestures and faces made after most of the sustained objections.
How come Dr. Hughes can go over her notes, but Dr. Curry could not when she asked? I think that is unfair....
I agree
I curious to know this too! Please someone explain
@@carolinaaceves4532 from what ive seen heard's lawyers try to object to many things While depp's lawyers are alot more leniant
Probably because it’s not In Their best interest. They don’t want to give them a chance to explain
I obviously know nothing about how any of this works, but I'm thinking maybe Dr. Curry's notes were submitted into evidence and Dr. Hughes were not and that's why it's different. 🤷♀️
The last witness really made me physically sick. Her entire testimony was just what Amber had “reported.” If it was THAT bad why didn’t she get her help like she boasted about?
exactly there's nothing wrong with her..she's just a manipulate crazy person who ruined another person's whole career and life
I saw earlier where the court room was cheering, do you know why?
if someone shoved a bottle into you wouldnt you go to the hospital cause you are so terrified? right. its cause it never happened.
@@deborahfollowscornell9007 --- I think they messed up the audio with the sounds from outside the courthouse.
The Dr. witness didn’t treat amber I don’t think? She just reviewed the records
@2:39:40 I love seeing them (Johnny and his team) happy here and celebrating this small victory. Really wish Johnny a big victory at the end of this trial!
This forensic psychologist is unprofessional. The way she speaks it sounds like she doesn’t believe women could ever be the perpetrators of domestic violence. I cannot wait to see the cross examination by JD’s lawyers.
YES, agreed! And if she's such an expert witness, why is she the ONLY witness who needed notes to refresh her memory 🤔 Also, why we're her professional notes entered into evidence and put up for the court to read? No test scores or explanations are offered into demonstration. Noone really knows what her notes say. That right there tells me she's a highly paid witness, and nothing more...🤦♀️🤷♀️
Omg! I thought I was the only one that noticed
I wonder how much she got paid for this testimony, she should get her license removed immediately.