I like Buck and even I'm scratching my head at this one...🤔I agree, offering a different blade grind and upgraded steel would make for a much better value for what they are asking. 👍Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
@peterbiltknifeguy from my understanding the cks and the factory made knives have a huge difference in quality as far as fit and finish. There are some ckv promo videos around and you can see the craftsmanship, like buddy cutting the elk antler at the saw. Quality labor costs money so a $60 surcharge to have them handle it alone makes sense. The part I don't get is how this is starting 180$ and a 119 is like 80$, they're the same size etc. Just different shape. That seems like a bit of a rip
I definitely agree with you my friend I wish they would knock the price down on the frontier and the custom items that's why a lot of my guys like when I customize knives for them as I don't charge very much
A true custom made knife with better steel and materials would cost the same if not less. Also it’s strange they still sell 420hc for such a high price when their s35vn lineup, which is quite decent for the money given the steel improvement and and micarta, is way cheaper than this “custom” crap. Who the hell is handling business at that company.
I was told on the phone from Buck, the knives in the custum shop are built by One person, whereas the regular models are assembled by machine, and assembly line of several people.
Sir, I agree with you 100%! This is just an action to ripoff people. In addition to that I have to say, for this kinda ugly duck knife that is a nono!!! Thankßs for making this video. Wishing you a nice day ahead.
Just picked up my 124 looks great ur right about the hollow grind. It could be better otherwise pretty nice I have the 119/ 105 / 117 /112 /735 sel kirk and new spider all good thank you
The last variant they made right was the unobtainable 640XL. Compare these to the 50+ year old originals with stainless pommel and guard, 6 13/16 to 7" hand ground 440c blades, a very natural feeling grip with lively balance, that really cool bulge towards the tip, which shipped with cards explaining that lower carbon higher chrome steels like 420hc weren't used because they aren't durable enough. Those antiques are the centerpieces of most buck collections that have them. These new ones are a shortened gas station steel overpriced bad joke contrary to the intentions of the originals. The ratings on their site reflect that.
I actually emailed Buck after seeing your video and going to their website to confirm this I was pretty irritated by it. I got a response very quickly actually within 8 hours of my email and they said they are planning to offer more blade steels in the very near future but she couldn’t say exactly when. And the custom shop knives cost more because they’re assembled by one person start to finish not machine assembled so basically I assume one person puts together a knife using premade parts? I would like to think he’s picking the best parts and hand fitting them and that the custom shop knives are little tighter and nicer but for the price I’d grab a $184 machine one over the $250 hand fit one every time and I’m not frugal. I would actually order one of these with the elk horn handle if they offered magnacut or any other better steel. What do you buck fans think of the 420hc? Is it outdated?
@@peterbiltknifeguy probably. I mean I bought a 119 special pro in the s35vn and micarta it’s the first buck that ever caught my eye. I haven’t bought anything other than bench,ade for a decade and 1 spyderco. If they made this 124 in magnacut I would buy one. Only reason I’ve stayed away from buck is it seems like a cheap budget knife company but with good American heritage so I respect that. I hope they do better in the future with some higher quality materials whatever the price.
You can but a fallkniven that will do anything the 124 will do...plus hammer, dig, chop, baton, act as a shield from a frag and not chip lol, for the same price. I would never spend the money they are asking for it.
I want all deck out but for $450 i will take it as is already expensive in the plain clothes leave the fancy suit for someone with deep pockets and shallow brains
I’m a buck collector but don’t have a 124 for a reason. I don’t like the thing. Now buck will sell some of these but not too many. And, you’re gonna see the e-bayers buy these custom versions and quickly try to flip em on e-bay for $600? Lol
Yeah dude I feel like if they can't figure out how to make these special orders (I won't call it custom lol) work on their production line without adding completely absurd price increases, they shouldn't do it. Maybe they could just offer a few different colorways and/or steel versions, like most knife makers do these days. Just keep it simple but give people a few other options. Most other companies seem to figure this out.
Yeah they could just offer different handle hardware options without much increase in cost quite easily i think. I guess since they have the custom shop pretty much everything that goes there is expensive, but only way i would understand why the brass option for example would be that expensive is true custom order that some employee would have to ground the guard, and pommel by hand, but they likely have piles upon piles of the brass hardware just laying ready to go in the custom shop
Glad i have the older bucks. The 110 blades are great. None of them are worth 400 dollars. If you wish i will sell you mine for a bargain price of 395. Lol.
There's an old video on RUclips of a guy beating the sh** out of a 650(Not the stupid tops version with the holes in it) From like 15 years ago but I think you would be impressed. It only has like 2000 views but it's before it's time I think. But he really kicks the crap out of it
If I was going to buy a buck hunting knife it would be the 124 but Buck has lost their minds I wouldn't pay but maybe $100 or 150 if it had the brass instead of aluminum. Buck is for sure bump their head on this one.
You are now the Buckaroo Bandit....LOL...You are going to stir the murky bottoms with this info as Tristan is about to loose his mind....We love all Buck fans as sometimes living in the past is where we want to stay with our Gremlin car....Good stuff...
Okay, it is hand assembled. Just look up say how the Buck 119 is made. Yes the blade is machine made, as are all the parts. But a PERSON fits every thing together to make sure it comes out right. Yes, a brass guard and "Pommel" and brass pins through the handle scales would be nice. But yeah, its not worth it. Yes I have a 124, and I'm very found of it. Even though I have to do some work on the handle, to round off some corners. I just hope I do not run it. Any ways, ah, yeah. Buck your not using your brain. But there will be people who get them, no matter the cost.
Only people that are gonna buy this probably from the bucks collectors club seems like there taking page out of Benchmade's pricing department I was taking a peak at the leaked 2024 Benchmade catalog and they have the infidel in D2 priced at 550 lmao. I completely agree with more options thing Let people choose the steel, the grind make it interesting.
I don't want another fucking company making knives out of the same cookie cutter "super steels" that BREAK. I am so sick of simping for "super steels." The buck 120 performed VASTLY superior in 420 hc than with s35vn on JoeX's channel. A BIG knife isn't for low stress cutting its for HITTING things
@peterbiltknifeguy then why did the same knife perform VASTLY better in 420 hc? Its the same knife! Look at the videos for the bk9 and esee junglas both in 1095 and compare how they faired against the vaunted TRC Apocalypse in super duper Elmax steel. 1095 proved vastly superior. Why? Because lower carbide volume = higher toughness which means greater fracture resistance-- period.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 I’m sorry to have hurt your tender feefees. But that’s way WAY overpriced for 420hc. It may be tuff. But that’s it. It cheap to manufacture and work. Buck is charging way too much for this knife. PERIOD.
@@peterbiltknifeguy yeah they should offer something else than hollow grinds. Hollow grind might be easy to make or something since lot of cheapo knives have hollow grinds, but its easily the weakest grind there is, and if it gets damaged usually the damage is worse, and more difficult to repair since its so thin behind the edge. Either they should improof their knives or they should bring the price tag down
Buck knives have been around for years since the 60's i have had several they never let me down in performance or warranty they will be around longer than other knives they take a beating and keep coming for more if you dont like the knives dont buy it. It is that simple
35 years of buck ownership here with a RUclips knife channel. I base my decision on experience. And it’s even simpler and less expensive for you. If you don’t like my opinion. MOVE ON. Plenty of other channels that’ll stroke your buck ego
Personally I own alot of knives that have the very best steel and worth thousands but I fuckjng love The Buck 124 ....!!! One of the best belt knives ever....we need a few more Buck retailers in England 🇬🇧 Btw great video ...I do understand where you're coming from though....👈
@@peterbiltknifeguy crazy crap all i said was you threw a wrench into buck knives insanity. And you should be on bucks design board. They would say we cant do that how am i going to pay for my new mercedes. You have to leave right now !!! Security . ..... was much more funny off the cuff. Oh well they erase my crap all the time . Do not let reply list i guess .
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I love Buck Knives but agree with you in this. Prices are ridiculous. I wish they offered the chip flint blade or rerelease the 124 in 5160.
I don't think Buck is sending you any Christmas ornaments this year.
No sir 😂
History and Brand name. Like Harley Davidson...
I saw the same page a year ago and thought the same price gouging. To me the pricing is ridicules and never looked back.😊
I like Buck and even I'm scratching my head at this one...🤔I agree, offering a different blade grind and upgraded steel would make for a much better value for what they are asking. 👍Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
Thanks. What has me scratching my head the most is the jump in prices right out of the gate. From 186 to 250?
I agree with this guy. I like Buck but this one aint it
@peterbiltknifeguy from my understanding the cks and the factory made knives have a huge difference in quality as far as fit and finish. There are some ckv promo videos around and you can see the craftsmanship, like buddy cutting the elk antler at the saw. Quality labor costs money so a $60 surcharge to have them handle it alone makes sense. The part I don't get is how this is starting 180$ and a 119 is like 80$, they're the same size etc. Just different shape. That seems like a bit of a rip
I actually own a 124 in 5160 and love it...
I bought a new buck 124 and tore the handle off and fixed the handle and guard how I wanted .
I bought mine for $140 after discount in 2022.
I definitely agree with you my friend I wish they would knock the price down on the frontier and the custom items that's why a lot of my guys like when I customize knives for them as I don't charge very much
I will always have a 110 but I don't own a 119 because I don't want to spend more then $50 on it.
100% agree
I’m sure Hoyt Buck is rolling over in his grave.
It’s all about the profits now.
Hey got my 124 f0r 149.00 not to bad
A true custom made knife with better steel and materials would cost the same if not less. Also it’s strange they still sell 420hc for such a high price when their s35vn lineup, which is quite decent for the money given the steel improvement and and micarta, is way cheaper than this “custom” crap. Who the hell is handling business at that company.
Someone who is a moron obviously lol
I was told on the phone from Buck, the knives in the custum shop are built by One person, whereas the regular models are assembled by machine, and assembly line of several people.
Assembled by one person yes. But the blade, guard, pommel and sheath are all premade. They are literally just doing custom scales and final polish.
Buck is its own worst enemy. I have a 110, 119 and a vintage skinner. I dont carry any of them.
They really are anymore
You should because those are all good knives.
@@vilebasterd5729 they are
Sir, I agree with you 100%! This is just an action to ripoff people. In addition to that I have to say, for this kinda ugly duck knife that is a nono!!! Thankßs for making this video. Wishing you a nice day ahead.
Thank you
NICE KNIFE. UGLY SHEATH. UGLIER PRICE. SHAME ON BUCK 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Yes. Had best sheaths now crappy.
But the shipping is free!
😂 right
in the USA
Just picked up my 124 looks great ur right about the hollow grind. It could be better otherwise pretty nice I have the 119/ 105 / 117 /112 /735 sel kirk and new spider all good thank you
Awesome. That’s a good collection
You could sell yours as a custom knife.
It's that simple: if you don't like it, don't buy it...
Wow. Insightful analysis 🧐
You sure had a hard time breaking that awful steel you want them to trashcan…. It’s customizable, and at a big price.
The last variant they made right was the unobtainable 640XL.
Compare these to the 50+ year old originals with stainless pommel and guard, 6 13/16 to 7" hand ground 440c blades, a very natural feeling grip with lively balance, that really cool bulge towards the tip, which shipped with cards explaining that lower carbon higher chrome steels like 420hc weren't used because they aren't durable enough. Those antiques are the centerpieces of most buck collections that have them.
These new ones are a shortened gas station steel overpriced bad joke contrary to the intentions of the originals. The ratings on their site reflect that.
At this point custom just means buying the same knife with minor changes and will cost extras
A LOT extra lol
Why don't you check out the buck 650 nighthawk. And not that pc of garbage from tops with the holes in it. Maybe that would impress you. Perhaps.
I’ve owned it before
I actually emailed Buck after seeing your video and going to their website to confirm this I was pretty irritated by it. I got a response very quickly actually within 8 hours of my email and they said they are planning to offer more blade steels in the very near future but she couldn’t say exactly when. And the custom shop knives cost more because they’re assembled by one person start to finish not machine assembled so basically I assume one person puts together a knife using premade parts? I would like to think he’s picking the best parts and hand fitting them and that the custom shop knives are little tighter and nicer but for the price I’d grab a $184 machine one over the $250 hand fit one every time and I’m not frugal.
I would actually order one of these with the elk horn handle if they offered magnacut or any other better steel. What do you buck fans think of the 420hc? Is it outdated?
I think they are fanboys lol. They soak up whatever Buck throws out
@@peterbiltknifeguy probably. I mean I bought a 119 special pro in the s35vn and micarta it’s the first buck that ever caught my eye. I haven’t bought anything other than bench,ade for a decade and 1 spyderco. If they made this 124 in magnacut I would buy one. Only reason I’ve stayed away from buck is it seems like a cheap budget knife company but with good American heritage so I respect that. I hope they do better in the future with some higher quality materials whatever the price.
I couldn’t agree more.
You can but a fallkniven that will do anything the 124 will do...plus hammer, dig, chop, baton, act as a shield from a frag and not chip lol, for the same price. I would never spend the money they are asking for it.
Lol. Right. It’s crazy
I think they lost their minds. I have the 124 and it's alright. I find the handle too thick and blocky and also too slippery. Not one of their best.
I want all deck out but for $450 i will take it as is already expensive in the plain clothes leave the fancy suit for someone with deep pockets and shallow brains
I’m a buck collector but don’t have a 124 for a reason. I don’t like the thing. Now buck will sell some of these but not too many. And, you’re gonna see the e-bayers buy these custom versions and quickly try to flip em on e-bay for $600? Lol
Yeah dude I feel like if they can't figure out how to make these special orders (I won't call it custom lol) work on their production line without adding completely absurd price increases, they shouldn't do it.
Maybe they could just offer a few different colorways and/or steel versions, like most knife makers do these days. Just keep it simple but give people a few other options. Most other companies seem to figure this out.
Right. It’s ridiculous
Yeah they could just offer different handle hardware options without much increase in cost quite easily i think. I guess since they have the custom shop pretty much everything that goes there is expensive, but only way i would understand why the brass option for example would be that expensive is true custom order that some employee would have to ground the guard, and pommel by hand, but they likely have piles upon piles of the brass hardware just laying ready to go in the custom shop
@@lalli8152 they do. The pommel and guard are cast aluminum or brass
Glad i have the older bucks. The 110 blades are great. None of them are worth 400 dollars. If you wish i will sell you mine for a bargain price of 395. Lol.
😂
There's an old video on RUclips of a guy beating the sh** out of a 650(Not the stupid tops version with the holes in it) From like 15 years ago but I think you would be impressed. It only has like 2000 views but it's before it's time I think. But he really kicks the crap out of it
I just bought a 124 from Buck for $184. About a week ago.
I’m missing the point of your comment.
If I was going to buy a buck hunting knife it would be the 124 but Buck has lost their minds I wouldn't pay but maybe $100 or 150 if it had the brass instead of aluminum. Buck is for sure bump their head on this one.
For the price of $450 you could buy a custom knife from an old bladesmith
Right
420hc is older than me and mostly surpassed. Hollow grind, that means they are just HUNTER kinfe.
You are now the Buckaroo Bandit....LOL...You are going to stir the murky bottoms with this info as Tristan is about to loose his mind....We love all Buck fans as sometimes living in the past is where we want to stay with our Gremlin car....Good stuff...
😂 horse drawn carriages.
@@peterbiltknifeguy 👍👍🤣🤣🔥🔥
This is why I went with a grohman #4 survival knife, better knife an steel.
Okay, it is hand assembled. Just look up say how the Buck 119 is made. Yes the blade is machine made, as are all the parts. But a PERSON fits every thing together to make sure it comes out right. Yes, a brass guard and "Pommel" and brass pins through the handle scales would be nice. But yeah, its not worth it. Yes I have a 124, and I'm very found of it. Even though I have to do some work on the handle, to round off some corners. I just hope I do not run it. Any ways, ah, yeah. Buck your not using your brain. But there will be people who get them, no matter the cost.
Yes. Buck may hand assemble the knife. But that’s true for the standard 124 just like the “custom” shop ones. It blows my mind
Exactly I thought the same shit,buck are dodgy mofos. Can't even upgrade the mofo steel. Seriously buck get your shit together
Was never a fan of Buck although, they have had some decent designs and came out of the 70s with some new steels in recent years
Only people that are gonna buy this probably from the bucks collectors club seems like there taking page out of Benchmade's pricing department I was taking a peak at the leaked 2024 Benchmade catalog and they have the infidel in D2 priced at 550 lmao. I completely agree with more options thing Let people choose the steel, the grind make it interesting.
Damn. 550 dollar d2 huh lol
😮😑🤮🤣
Literally........my emotions watching the video.💯🤣✌️
Lol
i thought 185 was insane lol
the fobos tier 1 bc magnacut is 345$ and the kydex is better than the custom made ones i have from germany :>
Customizable...
Adult Lego knife.
I don't want another fucking company making knives out of the same cookie cutter "super steels" that BREAK. I am so sick of simping for "super steels." The buck 120 performed VASTLY superior in 420 hc than with s35vn on JoeX's channel. A BIG knife isn't for low stress cutting its for HITTING things
I’m simping for super steel? 😂 ok. If anything I’m advocating against highway robbery.
And the reason it broke out like that on joe x is because of the hallow grind
@peterbiltknifeguy then why did the same knife perform VASTLY better in 420 hc? Its the same knife! Look at the videos for the bk9 and esee junglas both in 1095 and compare how they faired against the vaunted TRC Apocalypse in super duper Elmax steel. 1095 proved vastly superior. Why? Because lower carbide volume = higher toughness which means greater fracture resistance-- period.
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 I’m sorry to have hurt your tender feefees. But that’s way WAY overpriced for 420hc. It may be tuff. But that’s it. It cheap to manufacture and work. Buck is charging way too much for this knife. PERIOD.
@@peterbiltknifeguy yeah they should offer something else than hollow grinds. Hollow grind might be easy to make or something since lot of cheapo knives have hollow grinds, but its easily the weakest grind there is, and if it gets damaged usually the damage is worse, and more difficult to repair since its so thin behind the edge. Either they should improof their knives or they should bring the price tag down
Why is a Buck hater taking the time to hate on Buck? Nothing else going on in your life to cheer about?
You sound just like my ex...😮
😂 probably because I have a knife channel on RUclips 🤡. Sounds like you’re ex was the smart one
Buck knives have been around for years since the 60's i have had several they never let me down in performance or warranty they will be around longer than other knives they take a beating and keep coming for more if you dont like the knives dont buy it. It is that simple
35 years of buck ownership here with a RUclips knife channel. I base my decision on experience. And it’s even simpler and less expensive for you. If you don’t like my opinion. MOVE ON. Plenty of other channels that’ll stroke your buck ego
Personally I own alot of knives that have the very best steel and worth thousands but I fuckjng love The Buck 124 ....!!! One of the best belt knives ever....we need a few more Buck retailers in England 🇬🇧
Btw great video ...I do understand where you're coming from though....👈
Thank you.
Hmm my comment was censored wonder why lmfao .
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@@peterbiltknifeguy crazy crap all i said was you threw a wrench into buck knives insanity. And you should be on bucks design board. They would say we cant do that how am i going to pay for my new mercedes. You have to leave right now !!! Security . ..... was much more funny off the cuff. Oh well they erase my crap all the time . Do not let reply list i guess .
Lol
The 124 is an awesome knife no matter what you say, you're forgetting the buck history, go buy and old used one you tool.....
Oh. I’m absolutely not forgetting anything clown. You wanna be a femboy… sorry, fanboy go ahead. But I speak the truth
Too much money. Give me a ka-bar, Ontario, cold steel for a reasonable price. RIP Ontario.
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