games that punish cheaters...for cheating...
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Xbox Live Cheater Label 0:00
H1Z1 4:19
Fall Guys 5:24
Fortnite 6:47
Call of Duty 8:53
The Stanley Parable 10:31
Earthbound 11:12
Witcher 3 12:09
Tomb Raider 13:40
Sim City 15:00
Animal Crossing 16:19
Persona 3 18:50
Doom 19:49
GTA V 20:07
Pokemon 21:03
Rainbow Six Siege 21:54
Game Dev Tycoon 30:39
Banjo Kazooie/Donkey Kong 64 31:32
Spyro 33:18
Team Fortress 2 36:23
games that punish cheaters 39:24 
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Zone: cheater is a pretty hilarious badge though lmfao
I actually had that back in the day for doing achievement unlocked myself. In fact I advertised it as a service in my bio.
As someone who fd around with mods either via a modded console or friends with mods, still didn't happen 😂
i think it’s clean as hell 😭
Bros mom really called the news 🤣
@@fc7820 the new was really on this one
Funny thing, in The Stanley Parable, if you go into the serious room and try typing "sv_cheats 1" in the console again, the narrator gets even more upset
Yeah, I think I've heard that if you do a third time, then he gets even more upset!
And you got put into the "serious room" 😂
In like 2012 we had a friend who magically got all the achievements for Minecraft, all the halo games and all the cod games, also a bunch of shit he built in Minecraft. He told us he went on a week gaming spree.
Bro really said "a week" 😂
Tbf, Minecraft achievements weren't hard back then in 2012. I remember getting em all and being so proud and I felt so mad and betrayed because the game go a huge update and achievements were added and it killed my enjoyment that I refused to play Minecraft for years lol
@@tyratooOP yeah ngl after having both consoles gotta say playstation got it better with how they segment updates and dlcs from the base game so if you 100% the base game it doesn't get ruined in the future
Bro used horizon and unlocked all his achievements 😂
@tyratooOP in most old ps3 edition and 360 versions of minecraft you could get all the achievements from the tutorial world in about 10 minutes. This is how I got the all colors of wool achievement
GameDev Tycoon was actually kinda hilarious because people started posting complains about piracy in-game and asked how to deal with it. Only to be told to actually go and buy the game
check out what Valve did in 2023 for banning cheaters. they literally sent them an item in a gift box. you open the box and if you were a cheater you got a lump of coal and a notification of your consequence. (and if u didnt cheat u got some free junk instead)
A surprise lump of coal and a VAC ban is good enough for me
Highly toxic lump of coal, that would perm ban you
That Animal Crossing stuff is normal. It's just happens when you don't visit your island for long periods of time.
I think this guy only plays Rainbow 6 Siege, doesn't seem to know what he's talking about with most of this
Well it does affect you more if you time travel, no?
15:45 "This will actually give you a 10000 bond with a 25% interest rate. And I mean... that's pretty bad for back then"
*CRYING INTO MY HANDS*
Oh god, that is better than some home loans now....
For the Game Dev Tycoon one, it's actually even more funny because people were going onto the Steam forums and complaining about losing sales to pirates.
The Duke O' Death was later added as a free car to get from warstock on GTAO
But it was inferior to the armored kuruma
@@TheOmegaRiddler it is. your not wrong o that.
@@bendytheinkdemon3949 *_Y O U ' R E_*
@@TheOmegaRiddler 90%+ of the time, yeah. Duke can take 1 homing rocket though and it is free, so decent for a fresh account to get started.
@@Caligulove wow. In a game where every griefer has a flying bike. That is useless
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Them white 360 controllers use to collect dirt easy and it bothered me, probably the reason why I have actively bought disinfectant wipes since.
Mine looked brand new when I upgraded to Xbox one. Idk how this kid's controllers got so damn nasty.
@@no-repliesit's a kids controller. I think all kids controllers probably look that bad we just don't get close ups on the news of them
Add cheats, and punish anyone that uses them
Peak game design
Its called a joke. Except for the sim city one; that one seems to punish the excess use of the heat. You can still get a $10,000 stimmy once or twice.
The first one was most likely for dev testing or debugging and not meant to be found. The followups were most likely a joke indeed. Not that hard to realize lol
Tell me you’re not missing the point without telling us you missed the point. Let me guess you’re a speed run person who thinks breaking,hacking, and glitching games “is an intended mechanic, why else would it be in the game”
Well guess what it’s an intended mechanic to punish the greedy. So what do you have to say about that?
I think Halo should make it so if you cheat you're transported to that red planet in the sky
I also like how in Animal Crossing New Horizons, the "time teavel punishments" happen of you generally don't play for several real world months. Your villagers will all comment on your absence and everything too! It's an adorable attention to detail.
Not even joking, when I miss a few days, I just rewind time and play each missed day individually so my villagers don't get angry (and I can cash out on my turnips). This was not possible at all on New Leaf though, since Nintendo went and added a safeguard to the 3DS's firmware to prevent players from time-skipping
@@csolisr That's so valid! I always found it funny to hear my villagers say things like "woah you're alive? You just disappeared for a while"
Imagine needing to cheat in Fall Guys, LMAO.. those types of people must have to strap on the bicycle helmet before going out into public..
I remember when I was in 6th grade one my Xbox friends had this WaW lobby where you get all achievements and 10th prestige. A few months later I log onto Xbox with 0 gamer score and zoned as cheater 😂😭 my 6th grade self was devastated but I found the cheater zone to be funny and you could just change it back to whatever you had it as
You could change it, but it would only be on your screen, it would still show "cheater" to anyone who looked at your profile
@@Philip_J_Hill I never knew that 😂
It would get rid of that "Cheater" label from others too lol
I've spoken with some game devs in the past about how they deal with hackers and cheaters... Some of them truly do just let em play. it all depends on what they're doing. I remember a dev telling me once
"One of the biggest exploits on the game was something you found. You still had to spend 5 bucks to complete it every time right? Why would we ban you for it? You're still paying us"
one of my favorite methods of dealing with cheaters that i’ve seen is whenever someone is cheating, reroute them to a sever where everyone is cheating. that way the normal players would have a cheater-free experience, and the cheaters would be on an even playing field.
Pirating and cheating are not remotely close to being similar.
pirating is like cheating society :D im not judging though. you should have fun in life no matter what your income is
Nintendo doesn't deserve money with all their shity practices
That's a deadbeats way of thinking. Just don't buy it then. You don't need to play it. Stop being so pathetic. Grow up. @@user-to6gq4jc5w
Why did this turn into a podcast 3/4 of the way through?
Bro just called a cheat code a "glitch"
The game dev tycoon example more belongs in a video about piracy rather than a video about cheating. At least, in my opinion.
Bruh, i never get how people can deal with that many dogs, especially ones that bark as if their lives depended on it. One of my neighbors has the loudest whiniest bugle ever, and keeps it outside 90% of the time, so you get to hear it at 6am 6pm 3am and every time in between. And this is in addition to the other 2 dogs they own, and the other 5 dogs that the other next door neighbors have.
I looked up that "Rainbow 6 cheater charm", and wow that story's crazy. According to some, the guy wasn't just a cheater. He was also a known asshole and ddosser who stole the design of the charm from some company.
If that's true, the dude just seems like a giant loser, and ubisoft was essentially ENDORSING him. The weapon charms can make creators MONEY! At that point, why even play siege? Its clear Ubi doesn't give a shit.
The reason they still play, is the same reason why madden and ea in general, is still successful..
America is plagued with an uncanny amount of complacent idiots, who keep funding soulless products; no matter how many times, they get burned by these half assed dumpster fires.
I stopped when I hit the ranks where everyone MUST play a certain way or be screamed at by the games no lifers
@@Jaiden_Anime_ShunsI tried playing siege, kept getting shit from teammates for not fighting the "right way"
And this was the casual mode
I don't bother playing now 😂
The charm thing was over exaggerated by pretty much everyone who covered the story, he ddossed once and it was due to someone who was using God mode n infinite ammo lmao, the charm's design was from some artist in Ubisoft lol
@@Coast_dweller_of_DayZ_Temp Whenever I look it up, I get tons of people saying he was the cheater and the asshole. Its possible they're all wrong though, so I wanted to ask if you had a link for me to read whatever you read about the situation?
I modded my gamer score to get the cheater thing back in the day. Used a program to add games and bumped my score up so absurdly I was top 10 in the world for about a month LOL
shadowban was pretty solid. its like destiny2. and deemed as a SOFT ban.
like playing in an isolated playground to be further investigated.
The problem is that it can be abused by mass spam reporting someone's account. The idea of isolating the suspected cheaters while it's in review is great tho
I love the oldschool runescape anti bot team, they dump all the bots in a exclusive world and they livestream them banning them and seeing what those bots have acquired in their bank all their gear and items they botted
It doesnt matter in a free to play game. You can just create another account
@@Peramiiy
Destiny 2 is hardly free to play though lol
It's also worth noting that Persona 3 is part Social Sim, so having characters you're developing a bond with over the course of a 100+ hour game say they're "disappointed in you" could be surprisingly effective despite it technically doing nothing.
You know what it would be kinda interesting to see someone speedrun a pirated version of a game
Earthbound/Mother II is a SNES/Super Famicom game NOT a Famicon one! You're thinking of the original Mother which is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME than the one referenced in this video!
Yeah he's saying it was released exclusively in Japan, while showing footage of the English version. Terrible research.
VAC seriously used to have a false flagging problem and all. To this day I don't understand why I got VAC banned from CS:GO in the super early days, it has been 4039 days and that flag still emblazons my Steam.
I listen to your videos while working. They really make the time fly, keep it up :)
I remember a mod for Bauldurs Gate that added some new areas and one or two new followers. The mod also added cheat detection that made npcs call you a cheater to your face.
Rocket Sloth is like that friend you forget about but every time you see each other and hang out it’s a great time
In the pirated version of Batman: Arkham Asylum, the gliding mechanic is completely removed. This makes it really difficult for the player to navigate different parts of the game until it is completely impossible to progress.
The true irony is that I made my H1Z1 Cheating Apology as a parody to make fun of the real H1Z1 apologies, lmao
Exactly what a cheater would say.
Suuuuuuure. 🙄
Mmmmmhhhmmmmm
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@@williammiller3277 got me
Fun fact about the Stanley parable entry: if you open the console and try to cheat again, you earn a second lecture from the narrator. Unfortunately you don’t get any additional lectures for attempts after that but it’s still pretty funny
I cheated for the vidmasters, got recon and the cheater badge & thought it was hilarious. you get to keep the recon once you activate it on your account.
Id love to hear you guys rant about siege for a video! absolutely would watch :) thanks for the content as always lads
This guy really said the Duke O’ Death was “very overpowered” 😂😂😂😂
REALLY surprised you didn't mention RuneScape. That game has the most interesting history ever on dealing with cheaters and bots and all that.
There are some controllers out there that contain a gyroscope sensor and also convert rotation motions to mouse-like right stick could also get picked up by mouse trap. Back button addons can also add a motion sensor if you get the "pro" version of that addon.
On top of that, controllers without any of that stuff could also trigger mouse trap if the analogue stick has erratic drift while you move the stick around but is otherwise a normal stick. Probably only high sensitivity and erratic stick movement is the detection.
Metroid Prime black screened on me when I used an Action Replay to go into areas before I was supposed to.
that thumbnail. "code of conduct", now thats something i havent seen in years.
It's still there. You see it if you get comm banned.
As someone who knows bad eggs better than someone should, Trust me even with all the hell it makes it is still better than having a Missingno running wild. The bad egg even kind of has the data of the corrupted Pokémon in there, unless it corrupted an empty slot. Regardless when you're dealing with a Missingno you are dealing with arbitrary code execution due to overflowing variables. basically the game expects a number between 1-4 and Missingno says 75. Bad eggs are much MUCH more likely to be inert. It's a catch all fail safe; it doesn't always work, my best guess of why it's an egg is that they're ineligible for battle and trade. Gen 3 does have a Null Pokémon (named ???) that fills a similar role to Missingno in battle and is also much safer to encounter.
I'm surprised Microsoft never marked me for cheater when I joined a modded WAW Zombies game they gave everyone a mod menu and unlocked all the achievements and made myself 11th prestige
I remember getting Shadow banned on MW2019 back when the AS VAL came out since it had a glitched attachment which made it capable of shooting through any object on the map, basically got reported to the point it triggered the auto ban system for about 2 weeks till they fixed people getting banned from their mistake.
That Rainbow Siege banter sounded exactly the same as the one CoD players are having at the moment with the ammount of cheaters they have
That Banjo and Kazooie one is very true. I've seen footage of this and I've tested it myself on my old N64. The sand castle area of Treasure Trove Cove, after completing the puzzle and killing the red and black Nipper, can be used as a cheat code panel. The game generously gives you 3 "good" cheats from the resident flying book Cheato for finding him in Grunty's Lair and a handful of cosmetic cheats in Banjo's House after finishing the puzzle there. The game also has actual cheats that unlocks progression, but theres a catch. You can only enter in 2 of these codes and each time the game warns you that Grunty will punish you if you do it again. Do it a third time and Grunty basically says screw you and...nothing happens. She doesn't do anything after entering the third code. Later you decide to quit the game and thats when the trap is sprung. Your file WAS deleted. I just let you THINK you were ok but now your game is completely gone.
You know what would be pretty dang neat? I'd love to see a game basically go "Hey, we know you are playing on a hacked copy, and unfortunately you are not allowed to go any further unless you buy a legitimate copy. We'll save your progress so when you do buy the legitimate game, you can get right back here. You clearly liked the game, since you got here, why not support the devs?"
19:26 I like this approach tbh. Like “you’re not slick. Here you go.”
I'm glad you commented on the controller because when that first popped up I was appalled.
For Spyro, that's the one I got at some point back when I was first getting into PS Emulation. It doesn't let you kill the 2nd Boss.
3:00 Ah yes, back then when a helmet was $60 and you still had to unlock it.
i mean.... payday does the same.
Knowingly abusing an exploit in an online game is cheating. The whole “well it’s in the game” is the cop out of a cheater that knows it’s wrong.
I was convinced that opening was satire. It's gonna be a good one.
1:00 I loved my Xbox 360 and I was never aware of this function.
Can someone please bless me with what Green Hill Zone remix is playing in the background during the Stanley Parable and Mother sections?
Anyone remember lag switches 😂
Those were awful
“He’s lagging” was an actual call out for my squad it was so bad.
24:52 there is an EVEN SIMPLER WORK AROUND; make it think it's an Xbox Controller and pass the inputs through as if it were a controller (yes this does work)
This guy got the exact same voice as Dr. Mike.
For the Banjo Kazooie, your save file would be deleted if you used three cheats that the game didn't give you (cheats that unlocked levels/note doors).
The Witcher 3 exploit spawned in a level 20 Chort not a lvl 27, and it stopped spawning after defeating it 4 times lol
we need this on every platform now days
37:16 Actually, yeah they did. They also removed items gained by idling. Also VAC bans do occur, I used to see TONS of VAC banned people on Steam forums back in the TF2 and CS peak popularity days. There was even a player infamously VAC banned DURING a tournament but like other devs, they ban in waves because banning as soon as a cheat is detected gives too much info to cheat developers on what triggers bans.
Spyro also randomly removes collectibles from you, without saying anything they just disappear and you have to go back and collect them again
That was a crusty ass controller got so much finger cheese 🧀 😅
There is no community more mentally challenged than the Overwatch community.
Fortnite holds a torch
@@Underdosing yessir it does🫡
Any moba: hold my beer
As an Overwatch player, that is 100% true
League of Legends would like a word
You forgot to mention Overwatch 2. They added a feature that makes people who use Zim devices have some of the worst sensitivity known to man. I’ve seen people whining like babies.
1:05
All the cool kids chose Underground
The funny thing about Animal Crossing was that there was a cheat that people would do with time traveling,
and it wasn't even about stock markets it was about Turnips where I think it's every Thursday (or every other one) there's a traveling villager merchent that would randomly spawn and would sell turnips which ALWAYS netted you a profit as long as you waited (obviously the rewards were either small a or great) but,
the anti cheese strat was that if you tried to skip to their next apprence you would end up with only rotten turnips which sell for 1 bell each otherwise you usually always get at least a small net gain of bells so that's how people tried to game the system with time travel (not sure what you mean by stock market crashing or whatever lol)
I literally did this exact same thing 😂. Friend had one of those transfer cables. Had him get me the halo achievements so I could get recon, plus had some fun on WAW zombies. Good times.
My first assumption hearing talking about seige and "mousetrap" like, I assumed it would randomly invert, and shuffle controller input around. Like, aim becomes crouch, fire turns into walk left. Etc etc. And it would switch and re-shuffle every 3-5 seconds randomly.
What they actually did was way dumber.
It's not really something you'd want to punish hard as it can't reliably be detected and may cause false positives, the game only sees controller input and has to make a bunch of checks/guesses on your movement. It seems fighting it is a losing battle for any game, it would need to be detected on the hardware side likely, otherwise no way around it.
If you want to play with cheats or mods, just play a single player games. There you wouldn't disturb anyone and you can still have all the fun.
I liked for the dog chaos 😂
The RB6 thing you guys bought up happens in many games. World of Warcraft did a similar kind of thing. A lot of people were buying gold from 3rd party sites so instead of fixing the issue they decided to add their own way to buy gold and completely killed any integrity the game had left.
What music played when you were talking about simcity?
Thinking on the TF2 thing. I think the situation was actually the TF2 Hat crisis. Where for a time the crates would almost always have hats or cosmetics with effects. But Valve would later make it so you cannot trade them and I don't remember if that Cheaters Remorse was for people who didn't abuse the crate exploit
As far as i know far cry (before far cry 5) they will remove your map, and you will still see it, but as a blank something, and you can't use fast travels
Games like Fall Guys do it the best way.
Just shadowban them by putting them all in the same lobby.
Such a genius system I wish more games would do.
You guys made a mistakeeee.
Mother is NOT known as Earthbound. Mother TWO is know as Earthbound...
Cheating in single player is vastly different then cheating in multiplayer. I get punishing the multiplayer cheaters and those that pirate a game, but punishing single player gamers who bought their game and want to use cheats or mods would be going to far. I remember when I was playing GTA V on pc I modded Michael, Franklin, and Trevor with body swap mods and about halfway through the game I thought I might check out the multiplayer and a pop up said I had a modded version of the game and couldn't play multiplayer, and that was fair, so I shrugged and went back to single player because that was far more interesting to me. I know some games, like Hearts of Iron IV, disable things like steam achievements if it detects mods but otherwise lets you enjoy your game however you want.
It would be really cool if you did a video on halo songs that were used among different games such as that song that plays in the regret gondola section and also in the coveanant hornet section
I remember this story, everyone was talking about it.
38:23 my cousin used to do this when he was 14, used to have people pay him and he would max prestiege everyone in the invite only lobby lol. I now have this jtagged white phat classic xbone 360 falcon mobo, somehow ended up in my hands lol
12:11 was boutta say BFDI reference but turns out im just dyslexic /j
Also a mod for enter the gunion linked the game to the busyland pirate song if you tried to pirate and cheat in the game.
I was playing MW2 on ps3 back in 2020 and ended up in a cheated lobby. When I left I went from rank 20 to the max rank 💀
You guys are real homies. I wanna hang with y'all gaming 😂
My old clan leader couldnt get an achievement to pop after hundreds of attempts, so he modded that one achievement, and he lost 100k gamer score
Deserved it. Total L.
The 'Dunce' cap in GTA V, that's actually a reference to an episode of Tom and Jerry.
The dunce cap has been around since the mid 1800s.
I remember getting pokerus and bad egg in my normal emerald play through idk what I’d done to cause it but it was there for sure 😭😂 I don’t even remember if I had to restart the save but I know for a fact I’d never used a GS cos my parents refused to get me one 😂
On GTA Online:
The Dunce cap is redundant largely because Bad Sports could only play with other Bad Sports. In addition, the system was frequently gamed due to being far too easy to fall into, which resulted in the requirements being much more lenient as time went on. Some systems, like PC, had Bad Sport completely disabled.
The Duke O' Death exploding lasted a relatively short time, approximately a couple months. It was later put onto the blacklist (prohibiting it from being spawned/stored), then taken off when it was made officially available. Nowadays it's free to all players, and failed to carve a niche in the wider PvP meta, while being completely outclassed by the Armored Kuruma and Nightshark in PvE.
The game does have another kind of punishment for cheating though - people who sell large amounts of duplicated cars may see the cooldown between selling cars get longer than the typical once every hour, up to being able to sell cars once every day or so.
Tbh PC is the platform where bad sport lobbies are needed the most
I used to think everyone is Halo 3 was cheating. But i was just really bad at the game. But i did meet some that actually did pull off some cheats
I have never seen Zone: Cheater but i did have a friend called Xbox Activision and the bio said "Code of Conduct" and i never knew what that meant. But they had achievements like "Xbox Kinect Beta" and "Xbox 360 Launch" so idk if it was a modded account or what
I always curious about the first story bout the kid. I remember hearing about it back then and pretty glade I never done this at all and actually tried getting the achievements I wanted.
Really surprised you guys didn't include the way CroTeam handled pirated versions of Serious Sam 3, though I can't imagine why anyone would even want to pirate it in the first place when it's not worth playing lol
They wanted to see how bad it was, but didn't want to spend the money on it.
That's actually hilarious that RB6 doesn't have mouse and keyboard support for console. It would have just made sense to have it from the start, I don't understand why these console companies want to force people to use their controllers.. Part of the reason I never bought a console after the PS3. Using mouse and keyboard in my eyes doesn't REALLY classify as cheating as I've always played on PC so it's what I'd expect console players to have access to as well.
I did the Stanley Parable one on purpose to get all the endings.
yeah shadow bans are BROKEN i’ve been shadow banned 3 time never cheated a day in my life
Hope whoever invented it is shadowbanned from the afterlife
I've only ever played the first Animal Crossing (loved it), and I just had a passion for pissing of Mr. Resetti lol. I even went as far as seeing how livid I can make him
Imagine giving a shit about cheating in a single player game
Lol i remember xbox had done this to me too. Tried to use modio for recon armor too! Not once did I cry about it