History of the Yukaghir Languages

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  • History of the Yukaghir Languages, Proto-Yukaghir, Northern Yukaghir, Southern Yukaghir, Chuvan, Omok
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  • @prusentums2407
    @prusentums2407 Год назад +71

    Love siberian stuff, so overlooked. Thank you for your content

  • @Trolligi
    @Trolligi Год назад +83

    Surprising to see Yukaghir start so west. Maybe it is related to the Uralic languages after all

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад +57

      There is this theory about the Uralic-Yukaghir group

    • @Trolligi
      @Trolligi Год назад +21

      @@CostasMelasyes, that is what I am referring to

    • @MrNTF-vi2qc
      @MrNTF-vi2qc Год назад +12

      When I first clicked on the video I made that assumption immediately.

    • @adnan_honest_jihadist5775
      @adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Год назад +3

      they are related to uralic languages

    • @wirelessbluestone5983
      @wirelessbluestone5983 Год назад +2

      The video is based on that assumption

  • @slyninja4444
    @slyninja4444 Год назад +58

    It's interesting to see that much of the language's decline wasn't simply caused by the russians expanding east, but also the Yakuts expanding north (fleeing from the mongols).

  • @king_halcyon
    @king_halcyon Год назад +25

    Is it somewhat based off the notion that Uralic is perhaps related to Yukaghir? That theory seems quite legit.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад +12

      This theory is mainly based on genetic studies. The Yukaghirs are genetically closer to the Samoyedic than to the nearby Chukotkan

    • @villagerikanava1898
      @villagerikanava1898 9 месяцев назад

      There are also some uncanny similarities between the languages. Both groups languages are aggulanative (idk if I wrote that right lol), and both languages contain huge amounts of vocal ending words. Also there are a few shared words between yukaghir and Uralic languages.

  • @iroquoianmapper
    @iroquoianmapper Год назад +25

    I never thought that the Yukagir languages ​​come from lower Yenisei, what theory did you base on? Great video, I hope to see your video about Languages of Siberia.

  • @Nastya_07
    @Nastya_07 Год назад +11

    Great!
    I would like a Nivkh or a Koreanic video next

  • @miniongamer06
    @miniongamer06 Год назад +7

    I have an idea for you (if you want): Jewish languages and dialects on the map (they belong to different families, but they all were spoken mainly by Jews and were developed in Jewish communities. Hebrew, Yiddish, Buchari, Ladino, Judeo Aramaic etc.) So what do you think?

    • @user-sh3cf7kd6e
      @user-sh3cf7kd6e Год назад +1

      Judeo-Malayalam, Judaeo-Papiamento, Krymchak, Judeo-Tat, Kayla and so much more... are on the brink of extinction.

  • @africanmate8036
    @africanmate8036 Год назад +15

    very great addition to the siberian library of your videos, americas and siberia are the most interesting to me

  • @cassiel5150
    @cassiel5150 Год назад +13

    History of Tengrism/ancient turkic religion next?

    • @deathlydashi
      @deathlydashi Год назад +1

      Why?

    • @king_halcyon
      @king_halcyon Год назад +8

      ​@@deathlydashiwhy not?

    • @Scythian_nomad
      @Scythian_nomad Год назад

      There was no such religion, each tribe had its own religion
      And Tengri was worshiped by the Mongols

  • @ГригорийЕвгеньев-д9ч

    Выходит, что длительный период носители юкагирских языков жили по реке Лене. Но приходом предков якутов, их ареал сметился на восток и там сильно сократился.

  • @insectilluminatigetshrekt5574
    @insectilluminatigetshrekt5574 Год назад +9

    Do one that shows all the language families of Siberia.

  • @noahtylerpritchett2682
    @noahtylerpritchett2682 Год назад +4

    These northern Eurasian cultures are so forgotten. I feel bad that I don't research them.

  • @batteries_sold_seperately
    @batteries_sold_seperately Год назад +5

    It would be cool if you put some language families on the same map

  • @fastasaswhale
    @fastasaswhale Год назад +4

    It is sad to see all these languages are extinct or are severely endanger.

  • @StefanDruga16
    @StefanDruga16 Год назад +5

    Why did they start disappearing in the 1200s?

    • @king_halcyon
      @king_halcyon Год назад +3

      Tungusic migrations. And later, also the Sakha (Turkic) migrations.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад +10

      Correctly, initially the Sakha migration and later the Tungusic

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад +3

    One of the languages families..

  • @MrNTF-vi2qc
    @MrNTF-vi2qc 9 месяцев назад +1

    They expand east because of the Uralics coming east, north because of the Turks coming north.

  • @user-sh3cf7kd6e
    @user-sh3cf7kd6e Год назад +1

    That is most likely an entirely INDEPENDENT language family. Just for reference, Bengali and Icelandic are also from the same language family.

  • @Zerocool91
    @Zerocool91 9 месяцев назад +1

    Looks like they all left for Canada and became Native Americans

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад +5

    Can you make Altaic (or Transeurasian) languages too?

    • @Scythian_nomad
      @Scythian_nomad Год назад

      Altaic languages ​​​​is a long-discredited hypothesis that has no confirmation.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад

      @@Scythian_nomad There are too many similarities and common words.

    • @MYHONESTREACTION400
      @MYHONESTREACTION400 Год назад

      @@papazataklaattiranimam Most words seem to be loanwords, sound correspondences are almost inexistent and languages are more different the further back in time you go, so there's no altaic/transeurasian family, it would be a sprachbund at best.

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад

      @@MYHONESTREACTION400
      However, some basic words are also common. Like i, you and 4.

    • @MYHONESTREACTION400
      @MYHONESTREACTION400 Год назад

      ​@@papazataklaattiranimam Having some words in common does not always mean that those languages are related, for example ''anta'' in Japanese and Arabic sound almost identical and means the same thing (you), but that does not make Japanese a Semitic language. When classifying a linguistic family, the gold standards are a large number of swadesh list words and sound correspondences, you need both to prove that those ''common words'' can be traced back to a common ancestor. I am going to give you an example in Indo-European; Dyeus-Theos-Deus-Dios (god). Yes, Turkic,Tungusic and Mongolic languages have very common words, but if you analize them, you'll see those words were shared in different time layers, showing these languages were converging instead of diverging.

  • @xXxSkyViperxXx
    @xXxSkyViperxXx Год назад +3

    its sad they become smaller but its kinda funny that they switch places in which one is north and south lol

  • @born_this_way
    @born_this_way Год назад +2

    It is so funny that you started from 2000 BC for Yukhagir but 200 BC for Turkic

  • @trollgegael
    @trollgegael Год назад +3

    do khoi-san languages please 🙏

  • @minimodecimomeridio4534
    @minimodecimomeridio4534 Год назад +8

    There’s no way Yukaghir languages are not related to the Uralic languages. The similarities are simply too many to be considered coincidences. But that’s just my humble opinion as an amateur linguist 🙂

    • @king_halcyon
      @king_halcyon Год назад +2

      As a fellow linguistics enthusiast, I agree!

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад +3

      I also agree!

    • @adnan_honest_jihadist5775
      @adnan_honest_jihadist5775 Год назад

      as someone who doesnt believe in coincidences i totally agree

    • @SKITNICA95
      @SKITNICA95 Год назад

      maybe part of samoyedic branch or totally independent branch along with uralic languages as part of wider uralo altaic family.

    • @destrovskyj
      @destrovskyj Год назад +1

      it can be explained with a sprachbund. uralic and turkic for example has a lot of common but still they aren't related. the similarities can be explained with sprachbund

  • @Big-man-Epik
    @Big-man-Epik Год назад +2

    You should add populations. That would be really cool!

  • @zakaryloreto6526
    @zakaryloreto6526 Год назад +2

    Why do so many languages come from Russia? Indo European, Turkic, Uralic, Tunguistic, Aleut, Yukaghir and ect…

    • @TheBobVova
      @TheBobVova Год назад +4

      Because it's a huge country.

  • @elidesportelli325
    @elidesportelli325 Год назад +2

    And i love the hisotry of the Asia

  • @g.kech.10
    @g.kech.10 Год назад +3

    I was waiting for this video!

  • @limeliciousmapping4652
    @limeliciousmapping4652 Год назад +3

    Thank you for your interesting videos on language, I always really enjoy them^^

  • @elidesportelli325
    @elidesportelli325 Год назад +2

    I love the History

  • @x-error404alphaepicfellsan9
    @x-error404alphaepicfellsan9 Год назад +2

    Isn't Yukaghir an Uralic language?

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 Год назад +1

      No, but they could be related (Uralic-Yukaghir hypothesis)

  • @davidenatoli1300
    @davidenatoli1300 Год назад +1

    Hi can do it, the spread of indo europeans languages but armenian hypothesis? thank you

  • @japi2k9
    @japi2k9 9 месяцев назад +1

    Given the Uralic-Yukaghir hypothesis, I guess once upon a time the proto-Uralic-speaking clans included males who belonged to Y-haplogroup Q1a.

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 8 месяцев назад +1

      I doubt that, at least some Yukaghirs carry Haplogroup N like a lot of Uralic peoples

    • @japi2k9
      @japi2k9 8 месяцев назад

      @@Nastya_07 That's also plausible.

  • @elidesportelli325
    @elidesportelli325 Год назад +2

    And i love the historical research

  • @xXxSkyViperxXx
    @xXxSkyViperxXx Год назад +1

    they sure live in very very snowy frigid place

  • @raulrossi9735
    @raulrossi9735 Год назад +1

    It was born almost in Europe 😮

  • @Thebestman-f1j
    @Thebestman-f1j 9 месяцев назад +1

    Do y'all think the Yukaghir languages are related to Samoyedic?

  • @kazanmakcanbay6676
    @kazanmakcanbay6676 7 месяцев назад

    Yukhagirs originated from Paleo-Siberians, Mongols and Proto-Uralics. They have Q1a1, N1c1 and C2 Y-DNA.

  • @Supernimo735
    @Supernimo735 Год назад +2

    Is it possible that the Yukaghirs, Inuit, and the Uralics had any contact or are related? What do you think? I think they might be related because they're all Siberian

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад +2

      most likely for Uralics and Yukaghirs. The inuits are more remote

    • @destrovskyj
      @destrovskyj Год назад

      eskimo aleutin languages are so different from yukaghir and uralic, for example they are ergative while uralic and yukaghir aren't. eskimo aleutins are also polisintetic (more roots instead of one, like uralic)

    • @polishhussarmapping258
      @polishhussarmapping258 Год назад

      The Uralo-Siberian theory connects Uralic, Yukaghir and Eskimo-Aleut, and there is some evidence.

  • @andrefarfan4372
    @andrefarfan4372 Год назад +3

    Nice video.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory Год назад +1

    interestinf, i never heard of this language family

  • @MzKEEKo.
    @MzKEEKo. 5 месяцев назад

    Awww i feel so bad for them, being pushed further and further away from their homeland by other tribes only to be reduced to a few. That would be mean they were a very docile, non-invading type of group.

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 4 месяца назад

      Not sure if their homeland is really where the video puts it, the main reason Melas located it there was probably due to the Uralo-Yukaghir theory, or where Károly Rédei located the first contact between Uralic and Yukaghir, however Uralicist Jaako Häkkinen locates the Yukaghir homeland near Lake Baikal and the Upper Lena.

    • @MzKEEKo.
      @MzKEEKo. 4 месяца назад

      @@Nastya_07 if Uralic was spoken near the Altaic speakers why is there no cognates or anything related to them other than grammar structure?

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 4 месяца назад

      @@MzKEEKo. Well, I showed Häkkinen's view, not mine, he only put Pre-Proto-Uralic near Altaic, but he locates Proto-Uralic in the Central Ural region, and of course there are no Ural-Altaic cognates, it's only a typological zone, and a genetic Ural-Altaic is an idea completely discarded by modern scholars.
      Plus, it's still unknown when Uralic and Yukaghir first contacted each other, Häkkinen dates the first borrowings to Pre-Proto-Uralic, while Ante Aikio dates the borrowings much later, to Pre-Proto-Samoyedic (and to the honest, I find Aikio's view more likely), but still, both scholars argue against a genetic connection between Uralic and Yukaghir.

    • @MzKEEKo.
      @MzKEEKo. 4 месяца назад

      @@Nastya_07 I agree that Pre-uralic and the ancestors of Yukaghir had to be sisters.

  • @elidesportelli325
    @elidesportelli325 Год назад +1

    And the entire hisotry of the world

  • @muhammedjaseemshajeef6781
    @muhammedjaseemshajeef6781 Год назад +1

    What happened to omok and chuvan

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад

      They disappeared at the end of the 18th century, probably under the pressure of the Chukotkan and then the Russians

    • @ГригорийЕвгеньев-д9ч
      @ГригорийЕвгеньев-д9ч Год назад

      ​@@CostasMelasвозможно были ассимилированы другими группами юкагиров с другими диалектами

  • @danangarifwidodo
    @danangarifwidodo Год назад +1

    Why they migrated to the east?

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад

      Possible under the pressure of the Samoyeds, maybe and Yeniseian

  • @Da_-pz7zk
    @Da_-pz7zk Год назад +3

    New video🤩

  • @PDannyZhang
    @PDannyZhang Год назад +2

    It seems like yeinisian stuff

  • @baumus8278
    @baumus8278 Год назад

    What is your source for them originating in the Yenisei

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 Год назад +1

      He was probably inspired by the Uralic-Yukaghir hypothesis.

    • @baumus8278
      @baumus8278 Год назад

      But it still doesnt make sense for them to originate on the Yenisei.@@Nastya_07

  • @Lp-army1
    @Lp-army1 Год назад

    What drove them east?

  • @leonardo_fratila
    @leonardo_fratila Год назад +2

    Such a great video. I think the siberian videos are the best because I know nothing about these languages and it's so mysterious. I would love too se a langueges of siberia video tho!👍🫡
    Edit: or maybe a langueges sorrounding the artic circle video with both siberian and north american langueges

  • @aregaydayd
    @aregaydayd Год назад +1

    Maybe the kets are somehow connected with yukaghirs?
    but since they do not contact each other, their languages clearly different.

    • @CostasMelas
      @CostasMelas  Год назад

      Yeniseian Ket were more east, connected with american Na-Dene Languages