F-22 Raptor Vs Eurofighter Typhoon Dogfight | Thrust Vectoring | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR
Grinnelli F-22 Raptor VS F-15STOL/MTD and SU-30MKI at same time Guns Only Dogfight
Bro the link won't work
F22 vs a10
@@ohioifitwasaperson3258 u won't tell my parents what I watch on incognito right
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Lol
I was thinking the exact same thing
Yup never thought I’d see it.
XD
Yes very much a silly thing..
The aerobatics in this fight, compared to most other dogfights you see between planes, are simply amazing. It's incredible how little seperation there was between the jets for almost the entire fight!
Well, with HOBS fox-2s you don't really have any other choice.
Peak knife fighting
@@wurfyy he's aware
true and i think there was an old vid of him dogfighting on the su-33 against an f/a-18 they were quite close on that aswell but these are on another level
Like the WW1 "Kite-with-machinegun" fights but on steroids
Everytime i see the eurofighter fly, im constantly reminded why they had to invent the term 4.5 gen fighter. In terms of pure aerobatics the eurofighter is simply a marvel of engineering.
European Engineering 🥰
Still think that the rafale avionic are slightly superior especially ziti the standard F4 this year
@@CMBelite-FR it is said to have a better electronic warfare suite in terms of jamming and they use PESA/AESA radars whereas the Eurofighters are only now getting upgraded to AESA radars. not to downplay the Captor-M though; its one hell of a radar
@@CMBelite-FR I'd agree. Rafale is a damn good plane.
@@highflow6143 it’s what happens when Europe actually works together
That round 2 kill was a work of art.
Kudos to Olex for his flying!
And his Witt and GS's sense of humor.
I was gonna make this comment lol!
If GS saying he’s never seen it that’s impressive
F22 - I'll just jam the wez
Eurofighter - lol
Didn’t think the euro fighter was able to a falling leaf maneuver like that
Have to admit that falling leaf manoevre by the Eurofighter was pretty well executed.
5:18 DUDE!!! He kinda just flat spinned GS. Unbelievable!! That shot man. Hats off.
he F-22-BSed the F-22.
thats an achievement
No-scoping normies in the dark🎵
The dogfighting equivalent of a 360º no scope
@@zahnatom Yeah! Especially against the Grinelli F-22; an F-22 on steroids!
@@edwardking186 Are you srsly gonna post that under every comment.
Some great flying of the Eurofighter there, I havent seen it thrown around quite like that before. Very well played
agreed, queue the " finally a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary"
That's the Grinelli F-22! An F-22 on steroids! I didn't think the Eurofighter would be able to hold it's own against this beast with wings because in the two videos GS flew this F-22, he was flying circles around all the other aircraft and destroying them. It wasn't even close! In the last video GS flew this F-22, which was only the second one, the Flanker GS was flying against got lucky with a kill because GS made a mistake and the Flanker capitalized. This is one of my favorite videos because there were a couple of times the Eurofighter could have gotten a kill, and for some reason, the missile missed or he didn't switch to guns in time.
it's so freaking crazy how these aircraft are able to maneuver
This Grinelli F-22 is on another level! It's an F-22 on steroids! I like to think of it as a remote controlled F-22. I've seen the F-22 fly at air shows, and it does not manuever and fly like this. You should see his video where he debuted the Grinelli F-22; it was nuts!
@@edwardking186 Well, from what I heard, F-22 pilots actually aren't allowed to show the full maneuvering capabilities of the Raptor in airshows.
What's even crazier is the pilots having to go through all these will g forces and altitude changes etc fucking INSANE
@@uberschnilthegreat22 That is true, but I still doubt they could fly like the way this Raptor flies. This Raptor is another animal!
The F22 constantly laughs in the face of every principle of physics.
Olex's Flying was such a masterpiece! That's easily one of your best videos so far. Keep it up!
Yeah! One of the best kills in DCS history!
@9:28 the thunder of strafing bullets from the F-22 hitting the ground was incredible. Hitting a moving object with that much fire power is undaunting. When those rounds hit a plane it's a tink tink tink sheet metal hit by a bb gun sound. Respect for explosive rounds.
Olex was surely a challenging opponent. Would love to see him more often
9:57 physics just left the chat… that Missile literally went sideways without the use of any lateral force, it just bent the universe around itself XD
The way the DCS missiles look in slow motion is janky sometimes, but those crazy jumps aren't actually there when you look at the same missiles in Tacview. It's just a visual problem.
Given the Typhoon has been a match for the Su-57 in the past…This is a fairer fight then expected.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma I don't think so
@@SukhoyBoy4113 hey the SU57 has 3D Thurst vectoring on the DCS.
@@davidsmith8997 that's what they think. But they don't actually know.
The F-22 (rather it's pilots more accurately) is forbidden from using it's full performance in simulation battles with foreign forces. The actual max performance abilities are highly classified and pilots are only allowed to use their full capabilities with the Raptor in controlled domestic airspace, or actual combat if the situation requires.
That said, no matter how good an aircraft might be, the results of a dogfight especially are mainly dependent on pilot skill and a bit of luck. But the Eurofighter is indeed an incredible aircraft, paired with a really good pilot, I have no doubt that it CAN be competitive with a Raptor.
@@TheRealAaronSmith thats what every nation with every jet says really, it doesnt matter. If the raptor pilots are hiding their performance, so are the typhoon pilots.
@@retardmoguss nah it’s Classified for the F-22 to perform to its max
Well flown by Olex. The Eurofighter was pushed to the limits and if it was any other aircraft besides the F22 against it, it would not survive 3 seconds after the merge. Great stuff 👍🏽
The kill at 5:17 was stunning. And you can tell the Eurofighter pilot is truly pushing the envelope.
Seems like at 3:13 he might have missed a gun kill opportunity as well.
@@gfarrell80 from what I saw (though not being in the eurofighters cockpit, I'm not 100% sure) he missed a potential gun kill in almost every single round, but I'm not 100% sure. His flying was still amazing though.
That kill was one of the best kills in DCS history! The only other plane to score a kill against this crazy and insane F-22 was the SU-30SM Flanker in the last video, which at the time was only the second video with this plane in action. GS made a mistake and the Flanker capitalized on him with a Fox-2 high off boresight kill. This Flanker lasted longer than 3 seconds. It was a good kill, but nothing like this! The Grinelli F-22 is a Raptor on steroids! Olex should tell everyone about that kill just like the Flanker pilot because it was the only one they both got.
@@CircusJeanie2399 In the second round with that spectacular Fox 2 kill I thought he would have miss the opportunity again but in the first he surely missed a gun kill, GS life flashed before his eyes
Olex did an incredible job with that Typhoon, holy shit. You'd think that thing was thrust vectored with how they were throwing it around. And that round 2 kill was absolute perfection, it's like that IRIS just got shot from the hip. Best kill I've ever seen out of any of these matchups.
the car at 8:09 was like "nope lemme get outta here"
I think the driver pulled over 10Gs when he did the 180. His wife's lipstick is smeared all over the passenger window.
Eurofighter is going to be a beast in dogfight servers when it releases
I love how when GS makes a statement, like "I'm safe now", "he can't get a shot" or "I cant see the EF getting anything here, it's so tight" or similar he generally seems to annoy the universe slightly "Died in Action" lol. Love your vids dude!
looool thanks buddy much love.
@@GrowlingSidewinder You earn it, lol
That Eurofighter kill was a legit 360, no-scope kill.
11:07 The F-22 was really holding 35ish knots and was in a positive climb out at 90 degrees
Yeah, the power to weight ratio lets it accelerate in a 90 degree climb. The thing moves like a UFO.
There's some crazy videos of this at air show demos too. Not nearly that low of course but still well below stall speeds, accelerating in pure vertical.
@@clairecelestin8437 Yeah! This Grinelli F-22 is on another level! It's an F-22 on steroids! I like to think of this F-22 as a remote controlled Raptor because it can accelerate like a rocket, slow down in an instant and turn on a dime! I've seen the F-22 fly at air shows, and it does not fly like this. You should see the video where he debuted this Grinelli F-22; it's insane! He flew circles around all the other fighters and destroyed them! It wasn't even close.
@@edwardking186 the air show demonstrations are nerfed, you don't get to see the full capabilities of the F-22
@@invincibearofficial That is true, but I still don't think the Raptor can fly like this Raptor. This Raptor is an animal! On another level!
That kill in the second round was god-tier.
11:54 this maneuver just shows how insane the power to weight of the F-22 is literally climbing 90 degrees from a stall 😮
Just sat there like it was nothing. It’s an interesting position to put a f-22 in from an offensive standpoint, seems like a great time to strike so long as you aren’t already damaged
Its just DCS garbage. No way in hell any fully loaded fighter will be able to do that.
@@HAL-lz7jj bruh both the f-15 and the f-22 can go vertical just off the sheer power of the engine, with decent load too. US fighter engines are absurdly powerful for the planes they get put on
You won't see anything like this from it's f-35 replacement, that's for sure.
@@addz17 The F35 is not a direct replacement for the F22. That would be the NGAD.
That was an excellent dog fight. Truly a dog fight to remember. Well done Olex for keeping it tense and interesting for the whole fight!
Yeah! It was incredible he was able to keep the fights this close against the Grinelli F-22; an F-22 on steroids! I've seen the F-22 fly at air shows, and it does not fly like this F-22. The only other plane to get a kill against this crazy and insane Raptor was the SU-30SM Flanker in the last video, which was only the second video of the Grinelli F-22 in action. GS made a mistake and the Flanker was able to get a Fox-2 high off boresight kill against him.
At the start of round two, when you were saying how the Eurofighter still has a slim chance in this fight, I knew what was coming. It never fails lol.
At 8:10 at the far right of the screen, you have to love the ground-traffic vehicle going "Nope."
By far the most absurd display of modern aircraft technology ever shown on this channel. Kudos to Olex for not only scoring a fair & square no bullshit kill on the F-22, but probably the sickest kill I've ever seen on this channel. Olex, you're an instant legend bro.
Interestingly, both aircraft kept the fight so close, and displayed such nose authority, it actually looked like you both had more viable gun opportunities than Fox-2 opportunities.
IKR!!! One of the best kills in DCS history! And against the Grinelli F-22! An F-22 on steroids!
dude 11:50 it looks like the raptor is falling backwards and then just counters gravity with raw power and then starts accelerating vertically. Amazing
Thrust-to-weight on these modern jets is simply incredible
BRO!!! That's the Grinelli F-22! An F-22 on steroids! It's on another level! I've seen the F-22 fly at air shows and it does not fly and manuever like this. You should see the debut video of GS showing this plane in action! It flew circles around all the other fighters and destroyed them! It wasn't even close! It's one of my favorite videos!
@@edwardking186 Well they always say at airshows that they purposefully don't show the true capabilities of F22, so it might be able to do it, but who knows.
@@edwardking186 It can very well do that, have you not seen the video where the F22 just stays in the air vertically?
@@wtf-hc3tp I've seen it fly at air shows, and it does not fly like the Grinelli F-22 in this video; this super Raptor can slow down and accelerate in an instant and turn on a dime at the same time. You should see his video where he debuted this insane and crazy fighter; there is clear difference between how this Raptor flies and a real Raptor flues. If a real Raptor can fly like this Grinelli F-22, we may never know.
“I don’t think this fight in anyway in the eurofighters favour” 4:57 famous last words.
Love the content watch it all and aspire to become a pilot because of your content. Thank you for everything and I now know what a one and two circle is thank you 👏🫡
It is interesting to think about the different advantages and disadvantages an aircraft has when a dogfight is forced or when in BVR. I know DCS doesn't always equal real life but it sure is fun to watch. Thanks for the videos!
I would imagine the Eurofighter is quite possibly the most dominant non stealth aircraft in the world right now based on total capability, avionics, and weapons load out. I have a hard time imagining any pilot in any aircraft currently operating not being very scared of having to take on a Raptor though.
@@HeirofCarthage The difference being that the EF is a standalone with stand off capability, and the F22 is designed as part of an air dominance package. It is more a question of of where and how deployed.
@@HeirofCarthage Man that makes me very curious to see how the Viper would do against the Typhoon. Hm.
Holy shit, HeirofCarthage watches growling sidewinder?! I feel starstruck
That last fight, GS is just hanging in the air, nose up, and then he freaking ACCELERATED AWAY from the ground. The T/W in the Raptor is incredible.
he hit a 360 no scope missile. the absolute mad lad.
Olex really got the best out of the Eurofighter there. I don't think I've seen someone handle it better in DCS. Fantastic
That EF2000 kill was mind blowing 🤯🤯 what a shot. Completely didn't expect or see that coming.
Outstanding flying from the Typhoon pilot for sure.
the dogfighting: whats poppin
the cars on the ground: don't mind me just watchin
Insane flying from the Typhoon.
Eurofighter Pilot after his sick stylish kill:
"That was for the Queen."
5:19 I don’t know how he did it but it’s amazing what some people are capable of in dcs
If the F-22 or stealth fighters in general debuted later, the Eurofighter would have been a 5th gen platform. Speaks volumes to how great both planes are
These movements, like 2 leafs in the wind, absolutely beautiful.
This is what I enjoy most; nothing but quick dogfights and seeing GS destroy his opponents.
Love the content!!
I feel like I just witnessed history on that second kill. Great flying from the Eurofighter! And that one circle kill from the F-22 was also very impressive. Almost like they tapped into the full capabilities of the F-22 that the pilots aren't allowed to do in simulation battles. 😉
6:01 Hey Raptor, can you hold this for a sec?
The thing that amazes me about these high-tech dogfights is how much they resemble WWI dogfights - slow, turning battles.
haha yeah only that they can end much sooner than the initial merge of ww2 planes takes^^
"...figures are given by a calculation by Messerschmitt AG on Bf 109E turn times and radius in an internal Messerschmitt report.
..., the turning characteristics of the Bf 109E were as follows :
Turn time for 360 degrees: 18,92 seconds.
Turn radius for above turn: 203 m"
In that time the modern jets have completed 3 turns and a couple of fox 1 shots which can easily end deadly^^
Probably the best dogfights I've seen in DCS. Just incredible. Thanks GS for doing these fights and making videos of them.
Olex is one the best pilots we've seen here, I hope will see him more often.
"You can't write off the Eurofighter, although I don't think this fight will go in any way in the Eurofighter's favor."
[30 seconds later] "I have never seen anything like that before! That has to be the tightest fox 2 shot I've ever seen!"
Best line ever!
5:19 typhoon hit so clean he slung that rocket so clean
I could hear the shock in round two and the determination in round three. Well done GS.
5:10 - Call an ambulance! Call an ambulance!
...BUT NOT FOR ME!
The dynamics of these fights are incredible. The way these jets just maneuver without seeming to care about physics.
8:09 that second car on the right said nope im going home flipped his car and booked it.
8:07 "hey look at that plane crash" "neato. just keep driving, we're late"
The last fight was epic. Makes me wish the U.S. kept the production line open.
If Farnborough or some other famous airshow host could come up with a show remotely similar to this performance, then it would be historybooks next. Awesome, both of you.
Fight 2... typhoon brings a knife to a gunfight and throws the knife for the kill... best manually aimed fox 2 kill ever.. almost a 360 no scope
Man, the one Typhoon kill was amazing. GS rebounded with a maneuver kill at the end. Classic.
That was some of the best flying I've seen yet....right up to the part where you flew into the ground.
I like how at 8:10, the car in the back was like "Nope, Im outta here" after the typhoon crashed and made the sharpest u-turn ive ever seen a car make
One of the coolest dogfights you’ve released
That is what you call an Aerial ballet of Death! both planes danced so closely to each other and close to the ground as well on that last one. Thrust Vectoring is OP.
Literally your best video. We need olex on here more often. He piloted that EF like a true master. Unreal how he had that thing maneuvering
Second round kill was super sick. Incredible skill from the other guy!
I have to thank you again! Because you honored my humble request, we all got to see one of the coolest, craziest and most awesome and insane Fox-2 kills anyone will ever see in DCS.
Opera? Drama? Ballet? Dance-off?
Nope, just 2 great fighters dogfighting.
This is one of your best, GS!
I love the random cars driving through the fields
The Eurofighter pilot was fantastic!
Man, the Typhoon is just so good given it's a gen older. Really impressive stuff and wonderful manoeuvres going on - especially by the Typhoon pilot - sorry, GS ;). Like two Capoeira specialists.
9:27 gods whip
I like the crazy missile fights a lot more than the guns-only ones. Great video!
The way the F-22 moves is just insane🙌🏽
Best dogfight I’ve watched so far !
Boy oh boy round two huh?
That was the quickest turn from full on defensive to straight offence I ever saw.
Of all the videos on this channel, watching the F-22 play with it's food has gotta be the most entertaining. What an incredible machine
You should see the video where he debuted this beast! It was a slaughter!
Great video. The Euro Fighter pilot is working on a technique with some potential against the Raptor. I’d like to see a second engagement after they work out the kinks. Nice job, guys.
That was a "Spinning no scope fox 2" kill. Just awesome.
I love how GS isn't even mad after that kill, but hyped that he he got to see it. Even though his plane was the target
This is probably my fav video to date. Amazing combat aerobatics
Could've manually thrown a fox 2 at that range, what an odd kill
In one of the slow-mo shots you can actually see that the missile just started to steer before it hit, it was so shortly before that the steering had no actual effect on the missile's trajectory.
Meaning that this missile would have hit without any guidance at all.
@@wurfyy yeah, it was basically a rocket.
That was definitely one of the best match I've ever seen. 👏🏻
Amazing fight. I think round 2 is the most spectacular kill I've ever seen!
This is probably the best GS video I've ever seen just wow...
6:40 to 8:20, Give us more of that lmao, it looked intense and the ground perspective is always nice for a sense of scale. That damn plane moves like a UFO.
The way the missle came off the rail with so much lead in round two was almost like an unguided rocket shot. That flat spin set up the F22 to have to fly into it no matter what. You can even see how the missle barely guides itself at all.
12:00 that is absolutely insane how you're just floating there!
That fox 2 from the euro fighter in the second fight was something else, the build up to it, wow.
This was wild! I haven't seen such tight turning.
Best vid in a minute! Loved this one
That kill by the EF2000 was impressive. I wasn't expecting that with how well the F22 Moves
Your over confidence in a couple of the scenarios made this pretty comical.
8:10 That car dipped out, did the quickest u turn i've ever seen lol
That Typhoon was a beast. What a great aircraft
The Raptor and the Typhoon are beasts! In the hands of skilled pilots the things that they can pull off are incredible
Man that last duel was spicy. Had me on the edge of my seat
Whoever this Pilot is deserves a medal and a Promotion. I haven't seen anyone pull off antics like that against an opponent in a superior aircraft.
You should see his last video against the SU-30SM; it's the only other plane to score a kill against this F-22 on steroids.
I found myself honestly rooting for Olex, dude put in a solid effort!
wow that EF is making you work for it. Some of those maneuvers were insane.
The F-22 hovering like that at the end is a scary sight.
dropping flares on a crash site is the DCS equivalent of a tea bag lol
These two fighters dancing around in the sky is so impressive. While my time in the Austrian air force I had the privilege to work with the Eurofighter as a military aircraft refuelling operator at the biggest airbase in Austria. Such a beautiful fighter jet, loved every single second I was standing next to it or saw them take off and came back from their practice flights multiple times each day. :)