F-22 Raptor vs Eurofighter Typhoon: Who Would Win?

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    The Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is the US Military's crown jewel when it comes to air superiority. So are there any other aircraft that could give it a run for its money? What about the Eurofighter Typhoon? Glad you mentioned that!
    Maybe that seems like a silly comparison, given the Raptor is a 5th generation fighter, and the Typhoon is only a 4.5 gen aircraft.
    Surely with stealth, the US built F-22 should best anything in the sky, right?
    But generation designation isn't everything, and comparing these two planes is not all that crazy.
    And our conclusion on which is the winning aircraft may surprise you.
    But before we talk about combat scenarios between these two birds and declare a winner, let's take a look at some of their impressive features & tech specs.
    The Typhoon has a wingspan of 36 feet (11m) & is 52 feet long (16m).
    The Raptor's wingspan is 44 feet (13.5m) & is 62 feet long (19m).
    The Eurofighter sports 2 Eurojet EJ200 engines capable of 60kN each, and 90kN in afterburner mode.
    The F-22 is powered by 2 Pratt & Whitney F119 engines that provide 116 kN each, and 156 kN in afterburner mode.
    At Altitude, the Typhoon is able to reach speeds of up to 1550 mph (2500 km/h), and Supercruise at speeds of up to Mach 1.5.
    The Raptor comes in at 1500 mph (2400 km/h), and a Supercruise of Mach 1.8.
    The Eurofighter can climb 62000 feet per minute (318 m/s), with a service ceiling of 65000 feet (20000 m), and a Combat Radius of about 850 miles (1350 km).
    The F-22 can climb 69000 feet per minute (350 m/s), also with a service ceiling of 65000 feet (20000 m), and a Combat Radius of around 500 miles (800 km)
    The Typhoon has a 27mm Mauser cannon that can fire up to 1700 rounds per minute and carries 150 rounds.
    Where the Raptor has a 20mm Vulcan cannon that can fire at up to 6000 rounds per minutes and carries 480 rounds.
    The Eurofighter can carry several Air-to-Air and Air-to-Surface missiles, which are externally mounted, such as the IRIS-T & the Brimstone.
    Since the F-22 does not mount its weapons externally, it would typically carry 6 AMRAAMs & 2 Sidewinders for an air mission, and in a ground attack scenario, just 2 of each along with 2 precision-guided bombs.
    The Typhoon's most notable avionics feature is called PIRATE, or InfraRed Search and Track technology that can detect low-observable aircraft up to 50km away, and carries chaff to thwart radar-guided missiles.
    The Raptor's Radar system can detect aircraft nearly 200km away, and uses flares to defend against heat-seeking missiles.
    Alright, so down to brass tacks: who would win? The Raptor or the Typhoon?
    Well, the answer depends on whether we are talking about combat that is Within Visual Range or Beyond Visual Range.
    In the case of a dogfight scenario, the Eurofighter is impressive once in the merge.
    Although the F-22 has thrust vectoring and a higher angle of attack tolerance, the Typhoon is able to conserve its energy better; a significant dogfighting advantage when climbing, turning, and diving are crucial to attaining a kill position.
    So for the WVR scenario, we would give our nod to the Typhoon.
    So now let's talk Stealthy Attack.
    This is where the Raptor brings its A-Game.
    Take its Stealthy design, combined with AMRAAM missiles that have a 100km range, and a radar that can detect enemy aircraft nearly 200kms away, and it's deadly advantages are clear.
    Even with the Typhoon's PIRATE, we think most days the Raptor would take out a Typhoon before it even knew the Raptor was there.
    However, soon the impressive METEOR air-to-air missiles may be carried by the Typhoon, and with its 300km range, we will be watching to see how that plays out.
    But what are the chances these two aircraft would actually meet one another in the skies?
    Well only the US Military has F-22 Raptors in service, and is not sold to other countries or militaries.
    The Eurofighter Typhoon, on the other hand, has more than 500 planes currently in use by:
    Austria, Germany, Italy, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Spain, and the UK.
    Kuwait & Qatar have more than 50 on order.
    And while its unlikely that the F-22 would encounter a Typhoon in actual combat, it is possible in the future, particularly if one of the countries with Typhoons no longer has a good relationship with the US.
    We saw it when the US sold F-14 Tomcats to Iran, and it could happen again with the Eurofighter.
    Ultimately, the success of combat between these two powerhouses comes down to a combination of the plane's capabilities and the skill of the pilot.
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Комментарии • 4,4 тыс.

  • @aidanf1654
    @aidanf1654 5 лет назад +837

    You have to feel for the enemy cause these 2 planes will be fighting side by side lol.

    • @MegaBenjamin
      @MegaBenjamin 5 лет назад +43

      Also dont forget all the other aircraft that the US has, F/A-18, F-16, F-15

    • @e90baby
      @e90baby 5 лет назад +43

      Megabenjamin not to mention the F35

    • @MegaBenjamin
      @MegaBenjamin 5 лет назад +25

      okane Nikes yea, I just went to a air show today and saw it and now I have total faith in the F-35, it is surprisingly maneuverable

    • @0riginalFIR3
      @0riginalFIR3 4 года назад +11

      sadas asdas no other country has the f22 and the uk is the only other country to have the f35 currently so na

    • @0riginalFIR3
      @0riginalFIR3 4 года назад +5

      sadas asdas isreal and japan arent arab states 😂 and anyways they dont have the f35. Theyve put in orders along with south korea but currently only the US and UK have operational F35’s. And no one is getting the F22. Not for a while anyways.

  • @charleyhibschweiler4555
    @charleyhibschweiler4555 6 лет назад +2205

    The Cessna 172 would rip them BOTH to shreds

    • @michaeltaylor9316
      @michaeltaylor9316 6 лет назад +131

      low and slow down they go.

    • @ddruprup12ify
      @ddruprup12ify 6 лет назад +80

      Funny. How about a Sopwith Camel.

    • @muz2864
      @muz2864 6 лет назад +5

      Charley Hibschweiler mate wrong what about ripping u to shreds

    • @noobtube8195
      @noobtube8195 6 лет назад +2

      Charley Hibschweiler no no no just no

    • @nicksiegfried4906
      @nicksiegfried4906 6 лет назад +33

      Toyota of the skies

  • @liechtensteinball4336
    @liechtensteinball4336 5 лет назад +677

    I hope the Typhoon and the F22 will never be against each over🇩🇪🇦🇹❤️🇺🇸

    • @f_e_d-_e_2771
      @f_e_d-_e_2771 4 года назад +21

      bum heaven *🇮🇹

    • @stormstrains818
      @stormstrains818 4 года назад +3

      ..army terrible a has Ireland and neutral is Switzerland

    • @stormstrains818
      @stormstrains818 4 года назад +31

      Typo, I mean Switzerland has no typhoons and irekamd doesnt either, it's actually 🇩🇪🇬🇧🇮🇹🇪🇦🇨🇵

    • @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106
      @ihatethatyoutubedisplaysyo8106 4 года назад

      @@stormstrains818 melon

    • @max-mg7gk
      @max-mg7gk 4 года назад +2

      🇷🇺: *sobs*

  • @am_staart9544
    @am_staart9544 5 лет назад +1255

    You send the Raptor when you want air superiority.
    And the Typhoon when you have it.

    • @ahnungslos7029
      @ahnungslos7029 5 лет назад +53

      Faab_am_Start why? You can also send the Typhoon, when you want/need air superiority !

    • @am_staart9544
      @am_staart9544 5 лет назад +113

      @@ahnungslos7029
      The Raptor is the better AS-Fighter.
      While the Typhoon is the better Fighter-Bomber.
      This way both aircrafts could perform in their designed role.

    • @ahnungslos7029
      @ahnungslos7029 5 лет назад +3

      Faab_am_Start another question, are you from Germany? And can you explain me, what is a AS-Fighter ? In englich or german, It doesn‘t care!

    • @am_staart9544
      @am_staart9544 5 лет назад +47

      @@ahnungslos7029 Airsuperiority-Fighter.
      Luftüberlegenheitsjäger/
      Abfangjäger

    • @themiswalkthroughs4474
      @themiswalkthroughs4474 5 лет назад +34

      Faab_am_Start In a close range dogfight Eurofighter bests the raptor but at long range the raptor is a lot better

  • @dickiemcnutsack3248
    @dickiemcnutsack3248 3 года назад +30

    Watching the Typhoon at an airshow was an amazing sight.

  • @lionljb
    @lionljb 2 года назад +48

    The Typhoon is the epitome of a multi role fighter. Just such a versatile plane with lots of options of equiped armament

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  2 года назад +3

      true

    • @Werdnasemajjamesandrew
      @Werdnasemajjamesandrew 2 года назад

      Its literally a piece of shit. Put lipstick on it cause the f22 would destroy 5v1 you think metal stops a missile?

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Год назад +1

      I think the latest block vipers might have a thing or two to say about that. But keep lovin' on your 'phoon, if it makes you happy. 😉

    • @MaticTheProto
      @MaticTheProto Год назад +2

      @@preacherF-15 boo hoo

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Год назад

      @@MaticTheProto Don't cry bro, it can't be that bad. What's the problem?

  • @marauderinchief6858
    @marauderinchief6858 5 лет назад +53

    Every jet is built for a specific purpose and a specific need. The Eurofighter typhoon in the hands of a skilled, well trained pilot of a modern day air force can be the deciding factor between a military victory and a shellacking.
    The F22 is a plane that is in existence for the use of an Air force that aims not to simply win battles but dominate conflicts.
    It's as much a weapon for destruction as is it a tool for deterrence.

    • @williamjordan5554
      @williamjordan5554 2 года назад +4

      Odd last sentence. Describes any weapon.

    • @hllboi817
      @hllboi817 2 года назад

      Thing is the people in the hands of an F-22 isnt a 2nd rate Air Force, they train as well

    • @micstonemic696stone
      @micstonemic696stone 2 года назад

      @@richardkrueger9097 I really liked that
      very funny

    • @SkynetT-X
      @SkynetT-X Год назад

      @@williamjordan5554 any weapon for destruction as is it a tool for deterrence......if it works

    • @berndschreiber1167
      @berndschreiber1167 Год назад

      Stealth per se is aggressive. Full stop.

  • @kevindowd8070
    @kevindowd8070 4 года назад +108

    THIS is the video one makes when the only source of info comes from the back of a cereal box.

    • @marjanperveinis8355
      @marjanperveinis8355 4 года назад +2

      more like Wikipedia lol

    • @kps.77
      @kps.77 4 года назад +1

      @@marjanperveinis8355 Where do you think they get their info from

    • @marjanperveinis8355
      @marjanperveinis8355 4 года назад +1

      @@kps.77 Dunno, maybe manufacturers official website? lol

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 4 года назад +4

      @@marjanperveinis8355 Even wikipedia has more info than this.

    • @randeledquilang4769
      @randeledquilang4769 3 года назад +2

      You can't hit what you can't see....A Raptor was up against 5 F-15 in a mock dog fight and they were shutdown one by one by a single Raptor.that proves the F-22 doubters wrong!

  • @auraxfire
    @auraxfire 5 лет назад +232

    I’ve never seen a flying Raptor but a Typhoon flying display is the stuff of dreams. Gorgeous aircraft.

    • @MrLeet71
      @MrLeet71 4 года назад +4

      Great videos.. just search f22 acrobatics..

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 года назад +23

      F-22 crushes the Typhoon for airshow displays. The first time I saw F-22 flight demo, I thought I was about to see a major disaster when it took off, lurched into the vertical, then seemed to hover without gaining altitude. Looked like it was going to do a tail slide at too low of an altitude, but the pilot just throttled forward and nosed over like it was nothing...from a standstill. The square loop, MRT, J turns, drifts, pedal turns, and high AOA maneuvers all exceed what a Typhoon can do.

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 4 года назад +11

      @@LRRPFco52 Idk man there's nothing like the sound of the typhoon when it screams past at 250ft

    • @marcustrevor1883
      @marcustrevor1883 4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/5BkqaXrlbsE/видео.html

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 года назад +5

      @@marcustrevor1883 The Typhoon is an impressive culmination of most of the 4th Gen fighter technology. It still behaves conventionally at the extreme edge of its performance envelope.
      When you see the F-22 flight demo, it behaves nothing like anything we had seen before on the edge of its limits, doing AOA and yaw regime maneuvers that looked like it was out-of-control, yet it is fully under control at all times.
      The only fighters that do similar maneuvers are the Su-35 and first phase Su-57 prototypes. 2nd Phase Su-57s got heavier and more sluggish, and they don't show aggressive demos with them yet that we've seen.
      The Typhoon has to be totally stripped of combat stores in order to achieve a comparable climb rate to the F-22, whereas the F-2 behaves as if it was combat-configured at all times since it uses internal weapons that are minuscule in mass compared to its fuel fraction.
      Fuel fraction is the ratio of fuel to the overall aircraft weight. The F-22A carries 18,000lbs of fuel internally.
      6 x AIM-120 and 2 x AIM-9 doesn't add up to much compared to that (1804lbs), and none of them contribute to parasitic drag like on a 4th Gen fighter, so your performance is the same with or without them, especially considering the F-22's maximum combined thrust of 70,000lb.

  • @elstevobevo
    @elstevobevo 6 лет назад +394

    F-16 vs. 747?

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +37

      +Stephen Lode Hadn’t thought about that one 😁, though we would be in big trouble if an F-16 tried to take down a 747, especially Air Force One...

    • @elstevobevo
      @elstevobevo 6 лет назад +6

      Good times! Great videos, guys.

    • @Pantone2695
      @Pantone2695 6 лет назад +33

      Stephen Lode The F-16 will shoot down the 747 100% of the time.
      But I can't get up and walk around and go to the toilet in an F-16 so it's a tie.

    • @jessicasilver912
      @jessicasilver912 6 лет назад +11

      Stephen Lode I'm from Phoenix, AZ and went to college at Cornell (Ithaca, NY) from 2000-2004. As you can imagine, shit was CRAZY at the airports in the northeast after 9/11. I was heading home for Christmas from Newark Int'l Airport in 2001 on either a 747 or maybe 757, and an F-16 taxied onto our runway right in front of us. We were still perpendicular to it as we waited, as were next to turn onto the runway to take off. Therefore, I had a perfect view of that single turbofan lighting up as the pilot hit the afterburner, and - no bullshit - took off completely vertically (I'm pretty sure that jet has a positive thrust-to-weight ratio). What made it infinitely cooler was he appeared to take absolutely no rolling start whatsoever. It was armed too. I could see what I can only imagine were AIM-9s on the hard points. Needless to say I got chills and was unable to stop myself as I shouted out: "FUCK YEAH AMERICA"

    • @jessicasilver912
      @jessicasilver912 6 лет назад +5

      Also depends if the USAF pilots could quickly decipher Kurt Russell's Morse Code like those Navy Pilots did

  • @Buffertoob13
    @Buffertoob13 5 лет назад +39

    I love when channels like this will try to compare aircraft without knowing their purpose first lol

  • @Hairysteed
    @Hairysteed 5 лет назад +197

    "Typhoon has Chaff, F-22 has Flares"
    *Facepalm*

    • @baldeagle6113
      @baldeagle6113 5 лет назад +7

      why not both

    • @illegalmemes576
      @illegalmemes576 4 года назад +7

      Dude there different things you know that right

    • @baldeagle6113
      @baldeagle6113 4 года назад +7

      Illegal Memes yea that’s why I’m saying it chaff for radar guided and flares for heat guided missiles

    • @cadenorris4009
      @cadenorris4009 4 года назад +24

      When a video says that, you know they are no longer trustworthy.

    • @rakedos9057
      @rakedos9057 4 года назад +1

      Haha yes he lost me completely at this point.
      Your comment should be on top.

  • @steverobbins8964
    @steverobbins8964 5 лет назад +55

    i have never seen a f22 in real life but i watched a typhoon in an airshow, and it scared the shit out of me

    • @martinw245
      @martinw245 5 лет назад +3

      I regularly go to the RIAT show in Fairford. And yes the Typhoon is phenomenal but the F22 is pretty mind blowing with vectors thrust. That's an airshow though, which isnt comparable to combat.

    • @lmao.3661
      @lmao.3661 4 года назад

      i see them most days fly over

    • @bluejay4812
      @bluejay4812 4 года назад

      steve robbins If you think the Typhoons scary the F22 is so much more dangerous and scarier

    • @JulesD92
      @JulesD92 4 года назад +3

      @@bluejay4812 weird how even a Viper kicks its as..
      I'll take the Typhoon.

    • @bluejay4812
      @bluejay4812 4 года назад +2

      Julian Duepre I find it funny how the Viper doesn’t beat it, the F22 was and still is the best air superiority fighter.

  • @r2dxhate
    @r2dxhate 6 лет назад +23

    I'm glad this happened in a youtube simulation, because it's something that should never happen in real life.

  • @Huski3s
    @Huski3s 6 лет назад +115

    Quick edit on the F-22's top speed. What they tell you is MACH 1.8. What you don't know is this is in fact the supercruise. In full afterburner, said speed is unknown. That or the USAF won't tell us.

    • @ericcastillo4026
      @ericcastillo4026 6 лет назад +8

      yea when they were first telling the public about them they fuck up and gave some specs they shouldn't have but that what happens when you don't check on the public relations people lol, cruise speed was 1.8 and with afterburner it went all the way up to 3.4 or higher, couldn't find the video when they were competing for the contract.

    • @shrayesb
      @shrayesb 6 лет назад +3

      I suppose that the top speed of the Raptor must be similar or faster than the F-15's, given that the thrust of the raptor is actually HIGHER than the F-15, and the weight is also down at MTOW compared to the F-15

    • @tde1964
      @tde1964 5 лет назад +1

      Huski3s Flying the raptor beyond Mach 2 would heat its skin and make it visible in infrared like a flare, negating its stealth advantage. So top speed is definitively a moot point.

    • @pyroromancer
      @pyroromancer 5 лет назад

      @@ericcastillo4026 i remember that documentary produced by the USAF with various interviews with engineers from both the yf-22 and yf-23.
      The yf-23 was faster with the General Electric engines than the yf-22 during the trials, only after the yf-22 won the contract and started producing production models did the F-22 outpace the yf-23.
      the USAF wanted a dogfighter which the raptor was better at, but the strategy of stealth kills from afar, came into view during the production model trials. which the YF-23 would have been superior at as it was faster and stealthier.

    • @6point8esspcee68
      @6point8esspcee68 5 лет назад +1

      @@ericcastillo4026
      I caught those same specs back in the day.

  • @oes2546
    @oes2546 4 года назад +18

    Why model the two seater Eurofighter?
    (The normal one is so damn beautiful!)

    • @Ruffstantin
      @Ruffstantin 4 года назад

      They are for flight education, but can be used for all types of missions that the single seater can do with a little less range, because the internal fuselage is smaller at the two seater.

  • @hansgruber788
    @hansgruber788 6 лет назад +379

    The Supermarine Spitfire would annihilate both ;)

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +23

      I guess anything is possible

    • @bfx20018f
      @bfx20018f 6 лет назад +28

      P-51 Mustang would do them all in.

    • @znaz9012
      @znaz9012 6 лет назад +7

      Brent Fox a b17 with a LOT of guns

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +42

      A camouflaged Wright Flyer with a Bazooka might have a chance...

    • @lavolpe8525
      @lavolpe8525 6 лет назад +22

      Chuck Norris with an umbrella and a boomerang leaves no chance of survival.

  • @legitwalrus7639
    @legitwalrus7639 5 лет назад +55

    Eurofighter is beautiful piece of engineering 😍

    • @carlitoxb110
      @carlitoxb110 4 года назад +2

      they both are, it's a shame they are deadly killing machines

    • @TboneI989
      @TboneI989 4 года назад +1

      Carlitox b I’m the opposite, I think the Raptor is an absolute beaut and menacingly cool looking 😎

  • @martijn9568
    @martijn9568 6 лет назад +132

    Wow, people that compare energy retention. You don't hear that to often. Nicely done guys!

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +9

      Thanks for noticing the nuance. There were so many other details we wanted to bring into this video, but we didn't want to take forever getting videos out.

    • @angloempire6935
      @angloempire6935 6 лет назад +2

      Wombat
      I love energy fighter warbirds

    • @kyde9921
      @kyde9921 6 лет назад

      Energy fighting is so important to dog fighting. Armchair pilots often dont speak of this

    • @J7Handle
      @J7Handle 6 лет назад +4

      I find the consideration of energy fighting a bit nonsense.
      The purpose of energy fighting is to gain a position the enemy does not have enough energy to get on target. This usually means that you are trying to get above the enemy.
      However, the F-22 has thrust vectoring, so if the Typhoon were to attempt extending the distance, the F-22 would get a radar lock, and if the Typhoon tried to gain altitude over the F-22, the F-22 would simply use its high TWR, thrust vectoring, and angle of attack to get the nose up and fire.
      I simply don't see the Typhoon winning any dogfight.

    • @danzervos7606
      @danzervos7606 6 лет назад +1

      I wonder about that. A canard with a delta wing supposedly bleeds off energy quickly in maneuvers.

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 4 года назад +18

    Saw F-22 at the Point Mugu air show and convinced it uses alien technology.

    • @halcionkoenig243
      @halcionkoenig243 4 года назад +2

      It's first reveal showed its ability to climb vertically was nuts, and there were older videos showing the plane flying upside down, backwards, and hovering.
      So to be honest, I'm not sure what it's capable of, but the Airforce's secrecy almost got it replaced by the inferior F-35.

    • @That_Awesome_Guy1
      @That_Awesome_Guy1 4 года назад +1

      @@halcionkoenig243 The f35 was never going to replace the f22. The f35 and f22's will always work together. Also, the f35 is only inferior in speed and maneuverability, but that's not what its meant for anyways. It can see anything hundreds of miles before it can see them making it a perfect companion for the f22.

    • @geemonster9179
      @geemonster9179 4 года назад

      I prefer the YF-23 now that's a futuristic bird

    • @Doflaminguard
      @Doflaminguard 4 года назад

      @@That_Awesome_Guy1 inferior in maneuver and stealth.

  • @michaelshort7297
    @michaelshort7297 5 лет назад +158

    Umm no! You're comparing apple's to oranges. The F-22 is a purpose built air superiority fighter. The odds of these 2 meeting in the merge are simply astronomical. F-15 pilots have gone up against 1 F-22 and were completely outclassed. 5 and 6 to 1 odds and they were (killed) without ever having seen the F-22.
    Part of it's ability is psychological, if an opponent believes there is a stealth fighter in the area and has no chance of locating or much less targeting it things become very unpleasant for that individual.
    It was a fun video though.

    • @trainboyben7718
      @trainboyben7718 5 лет назад +3

      Michael Short well the Eurofighter is an interceptor fighter which can carry payloads for ground attack they’re for the same purpose but one is stealth

    • @michaelshort7297
      @michaelshort7297 5 лет назад +20

      @@trainboyben7718 my point being, the F-22 would kill it before the other pilot even knew he was under attack.

    • @trainboyben7718
      @trainboyben7718 5 лет назад +6

      Michael Short i guess your right their either way their both beautiful beasts

    • @michaelshort7297
      @michaelshort7297 5 лет назад +7

      @@trainboyben7718 Yes, very much so!!

    • @stupidburp
      @stupidburp 5 лет назад +7

      It depends on some other factors. An F-15X with the aid of data links from supporting modern ground and air radars would be able to detect and track an F-22 at medium range while having vastly more firepower that could overwhelm the stealth fighter pilot. In a more neutral scenario with both unassisted the F-22 has an advantage but the gap is much narrower than with older legacy F-15C. Typhoon has some upgrades that have significantly improved performance and it could also have some chance against an F-22 in a scenario where it has local support.
      Of course none of these fine aircraft should ever go up against each other anyways. The more pertinent question is how they would fair against likely opposition such as Su-27 derived aircraft. In that case The F-22 is likely to have a larger advantage but the Typhoon will nevertheless result in more enemy kills and F-15X having the most kills because of weapons loads available. F-22 and F-15X working together could result in the most kills with the least losses as the stealth aircraft designates targets for the F-15X to take down from extreme range.

  • @RRaymer
    @RRaymer 6 лет назад +8

    Once the proposed Tempest specifications are out, that would be an interesting jet for sure

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah... see you in 20 years!

    • @RRaymer
      @RRaymer 6 лет назад +3

      SuperGeronimo999 They of course would show specs way prior to when the jet will be operational.

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 6 лет назад +1

      See you in 10 years then. Haha, just kidding!
      But you think so? I believe the requirements will change a hundred times, and the specs will be final once the bird is near-operational. And most likely there will be a LRIP, and the proposed engine isn't ready just yet (just look at the Su-57 and J-20) and will change later on.
      I don't take any specs for granted, until this bird is flying as is.

  • @glee_bus
    @glee_bus 6 лет назад +8

    Both planes are good in their case. Comparing them is not entirely correct, but in this video it turned out quite well. Thanks to the author.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +4

      Thanks for the comment, and yeah, comparing them to each other in terms of head to head is kind of fantasyland, but what about if one or both of these (working together) came up against something else, like a MiG or something from China? That could be another video...

    • @glee_bus
      @glee_bus 6 лет назад +3

      Two Bit Aviation, I'm looking forward to it ;D

  • @Matze239
    @Matze239 3 года назад +39

    To quote a german airforce fighter after Red Flag: "Yesterday we´ve had Raptorsalad for lunch."

    • @vkqtran4721
      @vkqtran4721 3 года назад

      F-22 Pilots: *smirk

    • @Matze239
      @Matze239 3 года назад

      @@vkqtran4721 just go Google it if you don't believe me💁‍♂️

    • @vkqtran4721
      @vkqtran4721 3 года назад

      @@Matze239 That’s not the point of my comment... *facepalm

    • @ser43_OLDC
      @ser43_OLDC 3 года назад +3

      Also Spanish pilots of typhoon win against f22

    • @danielasare1165
      @danielasare1165 3 года назад +2

      Of course the typhoon is not a bad plane it's very impressive so it's expected it will make a win and it did. But have you checked the Raptor's WVR wins against the typhoon? And do you know the American plane is not allowed to operate in the full spectrum of it's capabilities during these exercises? Did you know? Take all of that into account and rethink your stance.

  • @George-xb5ey
    @George-xb5ey 4 года назад +5

    F 22 just looks incredible.

  • @blazinggamez5512
    @blazinggamez5512 5 лет назад +3

    Not to mention the F22 is one of americas Exclusive jets that no other country has..its just too superb

    • @maceo1923
      @maceo1923 5 лет назад +1

      Eurofighter with mach 6 scramjet AA rocket meteor shout down everthing

    • @noodles169
      @noodles169 5 лет назад

      Yeah, so amazing that the f22 is being fazed out and replaced by the f35

    • @Sedna063
      @Sedna063 4 года назад

      @@noodles169 It won't be replaced.

  • @TheOriginalMrShadow
    @TheOriginalMrShadow 6 лет назад +12

    Being a Brit you'd think I would be biased? Not at all. I think it could be quite a close cut comparison, both of the tools having their own good and bad points. The thing that scares me the most with the Raptor (aptly named) is the bloody price, but shoving that out of the way. The Avionic suites on both of the tools are quite impressive, for the time they were designed. Somewhat backward of what is available today. In reality it is all down to the skill and experience of the lucky sod sat in the operators seat. It would certainly be beyond incredible to watch (if they were in visual, of course) these beautifully cut pieces of composite material do the things they were designed to do. Both the U.S of A and the Brits have had for a long, long time an ability to manufacture battle winning Aircraft. I would have to say both the Tools, under the right conditions could well be upon par. What would have been a better comparison would have been how the two would match up to the notorious SU37/57/T50 (pac fa). Now I think that would be a challenge deffo for the Typhoon (maybe) and perhaps more of a challenge for the equally stealthy Raptor. The way that Russian aircraft seems to defy the forces of gravity is something well worth watching. In peace time of course, hahahaha. Nuff said!! ;-o

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +5

      Well said. And it's US and Aaaaaey (Borat reference). We were impressed at how capable the EFT was, as you just look at the two planes and assume based on looks that it can't be that great. Anyhow, hopefully these two guys never have to meet for real.

    • @wadopotato33
      @wadopotato33 6 лет назад +3

      The last Raptor off of the assembly line cost 138$ million. The current price of the Eurofighter is 140$ million. Had the Raptor continued in production the prices would have been similar. The F-22 has similar turning abilities as the Russian planes.

    • @mrbrainbob5320
      @mrbrainbob5320 6 лет назад +1

      You literally said nothing the f22 is superior to the EFT

  • @mamabazzz
    @mamabazzz 5 лет назад +9

    They actually did go up against each other in the skies at a airshow and the Euro fighter out turned and out maneuvered the F 22. At no time did the F22 get the upper hand. They interview the F22 pilots and they were shocked and humbled

    • @Raltie
      @Raltie 5 лет назад

      Eh... that's probably due to the exhaust of their engines. The shape required for stealth really limits the thrust vectoring.

    • @dumdumbinks274
      @dumdumbinks274 5 лет назад

      F-22s are equally matched with the Typhoon in a dogfight. It comes down to pilot skill.

    • @RR-ty6zz
      @RR-ty6zz 5 лет назад

      Armando van Haaren that was years ago and they fix that. The plane was to fast and pilots had trouble breathing.

    • @RR-ty6zz
      @RR-ty6zz 5 лет назад

      Actually during shows and war games the us jets cant used max capabilities. Its a known fact the us does not use full force during war games and shows.

    • @mrfrisky2997
      @mrfrisky2997 4 года назад +1

      What's amazing is the top Brass in the RAF actually rate the Typhoon better now than when it first came online 10 years ago as they are pushing it more and more.
      Also the RAF is upgrading their Typhoons far more than the rest of the European allies - the Brits Typhoons are really on a different level from the off the shelf version.

  • @goatee01
    @goatee01 6 лет назад +5

    Impressed by the animations and models, takes these vids to the next level.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +1

      So glad to hear it! It’s a lot of work for just the two of us but we have a lot more planned!

  • @warpdriveby
    @warpdriveby 3 года назад +13

    With a significantly larger total wing area, double the available thrust, and vectoring, wouldn't the F-22 be able to turn inside the Typhoon? How did you calculate the performance of each fighter? You awarded the typhoon for climbing but at 318 fps, its slower than the F-22's 350 fps!! That's just... moving on! What do you mean by energy conservation? Are you saying that the Typhoon has less drag? What characteristics and properties does it have and what type of energy is conserved? The Typhoon is an excellent and gorgeous fighter. The F-22 can and has won training games against multiple F-15Cs... If you let that sink in I think it looks like this is not an evaluation that gives us insight into the best deployment of these two. The F-22 would play the dominant air superiority role, intercepting and killing whatever needs dead. The typhoon is a fantastic multi-role fighter and even lacking true stealth capability, is a formidable and deadly fighter.

    • @W1ckedRcL
      @W1ckedRcL 2 года назад +1

      @Kilian Klaiber Although your assessment is technically correct, your lack of knowledge in ACM as it applies to the performance of each aircraft is severely lacking.

    • @preacherF-15
      @preacherF-15 Год назад

      @@W1ckedRcL really? I thought he was pretty accurate. I've spent a lot of time hassling upstairs, where would you say he falls so short?

    • @TheChill001
      @TheChill001 3 месяца назад

      @@preacherF-15 the weight/mass part of the equation. The F22 has to displace much more mass and weight. Not to mention the larger wingspan and size actually aren't all that advantageous when it comes to short and sharp maneuvres. Larger wingspans typically require much larger banking turns compared to lower wingspans

  • @patrolpilot3756
    @patrolpilot3756 4 года назад +17

    The Typhoon is a wonderful aircraft and I'm glad they are on our side, but you can't hit what you can't see. I'm going Raptor in this one.

    • @s5c517
      @s5c517 4 года назад +1

      True but the noise of the typhoon sums it up

  • @Dr.Know_4U
    @Dr.Know_4U 5 лет назад +79

    You failed to mention that carrying weapons externally severely limits all of those performance parameters.

    • @nerfwatson5747
      @nerfwatson5747 4 года назад +6

      well it is still insanely manueverebel even with extra drag from bombs and missles so yeah I am also saying that because I am british and it is a british jet

    • @hueydevotedUH1
      @hueydevotedUH1 4 года назад +8

      And increases radar visibility.

    • @sergarlantyrell7847
      @sergarlantyrell7847 4 года назад +4

      Performance parameters (unless otherwise stated) are usually calculated with a "fighter"/"interceptor" armament (ie 2 IR guided short-range missiles, and 4 AR guided medium range missiles) and internal fuel (either full or half capactiy).

    • @jalfrezimonster
      @jalfrezimonster 3 года назад +2

      I'm not sure you will find a more agile jet than a Typhoon.

    • @jalfrezimonster
      @jalfrezimonster 3 года назад

      @Bobby Brady im not sure you completely understand. The f16 is an amazing aircraft, no doubt. It cannot and doesn't touch a Typhoon in any form. It is considerably slower, its flight envelope isn't as large, its ceiling is lower, its rate if climb is massively slower, its weapons systems are not as impressive or advanced. Have a quick look at operation red flag👍 The f16 is however a fantastic airframe, desired the world over. It can pull 9 g's, it is cheap to produce. Can it live with a Typhoon? Not in the same bracket

  • @tonygeddes9558
    @tonygeddes9558 2 года назад +16

    The Eurofighter plus Meteor is perfectly capable of taking on the F-22 Raptor. I’m sceptical about just how stealthy the Raptor really is. Regardless of what you’re flying, Good Luck if you go up against a Eurofighter equipped with Meteor.

    • @joshuabarnhart9601
      @joshuabarnhart9601 2 года назад +6

      There’s no way the F 22 doesn’t win.

    • @XTCyMAN
      @XTCyMAN 2 года назад +2

      @@joshuabarnhart9601 in your mind..

    • @jameskester7745
      @jameskester7745 2 года назад

      @@XTCyMAN oh stop, the Eurofigher wouldn't last ten seconds against the raptor. The F22 has every advantage, and could fly circles around any 4th gen aircraft. To even believe the Eurofigher would even stand a chance, is just saying your a fan boy, because it's a pipe dream

    • @XTCyMAN
      @XTCyMAN 2 года назад

      @@jameskester7745 he stealth advantage is not so clear it is on the paper i want to see in the real life...why the B 2 is substituted by b 21?.....the 4.5 4.3 5 .6 gen all of this are only based in suppositions on the paper..if f 22 is detected and bleive me it is not so impossible right now the EF 2000 is 55% vs 45% in shoot down capacity to each other

    • @NathanLFord
      @NathanLFord 2 года назад

      Yeah I think you have way to much doubt. The F-22 is a plane that in my opinion with a well trained USAF pilot would put all fighters in the ground quicker than they could blink an eye.

  • @chrisyboy666
    @chrisyboy666 6 лет назад +186

    Total waste of time 2 different Aircraft completely designed for different roles can’t compare them on and eggs vs eggs basis

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +33

      Comparing eggs vs eggs is always a dangerous job.

    • @ausintune9014
      @ausintune9014 6 лет назад +11

      both multiroles..

    • @viccao8431
      @viccao8431 6 лет назад +10

      Ausintune f22 is mainly air superiority

    • @wadopotato33
      @wadopotato33 6 лет назад +15

      Both were designed for air superiority and as top cover aircraft in the high and low mix. Absolutely this is an apples to apples comparison. Although both have become multirole.

    • @joegallo8620
      @joegallo8620 6 лет назад +7

      @@wadopotato33 f22 is not a multi role by any stretch of imagination. The f22 is air superiority and only that. They keep those things so locked away that they don't even use them for interception when Russia buzzes the border. A way better comparison would have been the F/a and F 18's vs the typhoon. During wargaming exercises between the F22 and the typhoon. the Europeans said they won 2/6 of the sorties when they were magically placed in proximity of the F22. during real scenarios they said they got shot down before they even saw the F22

  • @kirad2234
    @kirad2234 6 лет назад +11

    Yes it may depend on the aircraft being flown but the main difference and factor is how skilled the pilot is. If u put a highly skilled pilot against a less skilled one, no matter which Jet they're flying, the highlh skilled pilot would win. Its all down to how good the pilot is and how well he can conserve his weaponry aswell as use of his technical abilities

    • @SuperGeronimo999
      @SuperGeronimo999 6 лет назад +1

      Exactly. Unless we have AI controlled unmanned fighter jets in future, it still mostly depends on the pilot.

  • @ResIpsa-bj3mt
    @ResIpsa-bj3mt 4 года назад +2

    The entire point of the F-22 is to kill your opponent before they can see you. This whole argument is a moot point.

  • @noodles169
    @noodles169 5 лет назад +10

    I'm American, but I have to say, I love the typhoon. It looks like a shark of the skys

    • @DeHerg
      @DeHerg 5 лет назад +3

      I'm European(German) and I have to say the F22 still wins because it is superior in the first (long range) round and in A2A there are no second rounds.

  • @greigsanderson
    @greigsanderson 5 лет назад +17

    Depends on the pilot.

    • @kenbarney3843
      @kenbarney3843 4 года назад +1

      At the most recent joint exercises, Typhoon pilots said they had no idea tbd Raptors were even there.

  • @lfly6700
    @lfly6700 6 лет назад +38

    How about Spitfire vs bf 109.
    Amazing Video

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +7

      Thanks for the kind comments and suggestion. Our next video might be something helicopter-related, but then after that it's wide open. I am more of a WWII guy myself, and so we will add this to our list!

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 6 лет назад +3

      Might I ad that you can't directly compare a Spitfire and an bf109. Since a Spitfire mk24 is a totally different beast from the mk 1, the same goes for the bf109.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +2

      We might also be looking at some of the lesser known WWII aircraft, and maybe even other nations besides US, Britain, Germany, and Japan, which had some interesting planes. Like Russian Yaks, some Italian planes, etc.

    • @MoccaLG
      @MoccaLG 6 лет назад +2

      I have seen a report of an old spitfire pilot who told his story about an crashed bf 109. - In the end the winner was who has a better rate of climb. The one who has its enemy first at its 6 o clock position wins. BUT he said after taking a look on a bf109:"If I would have knewn about how bad the visibility is in this cockpit was I would have attacked more agressive"

    • @tesstickle7267
      @tesstickle7267 6 лет назад

      Two Bit Aviation Britain had plenty of amazing aircraft, Lancaster bomber, mosquito fighter bomber,avro vulcan nuclear bomber. Alot of which aren't massively known to many people

  • @arsenalsniping1711
    @arsenalsniping1711 3 года назад +19

    When European pilots and USA pilots went head to head during a joint training drill American pilots accepted that Eurofighter Typhoon pilots are better than F 35 and F 22

    • @isziahs5951
      @isziahs5951 3 года назад

      Really? Lol, it looks better too imo

    • @TheBigChad
      @TheBigChad 3 года назад

      Negative lol. I can see it being better than the f35 seeing how it’s not a fighter jet. But the f22 is fucking crazy. It can do super low speed maneuvers where it almost seems like it’s hovering and then it can kick it into super go fast mode and disappear. I hate these comparisons because the vast majority of civilians have never seen how insane the f22 really is. I’m stationed at Eglin afb in Florida and they’ve done demos for us on those cheesy “morale boost” days. But this thing legit boosted morale. To see it totally dominate an f16 was unbelievable.

    • @a-10thunderboltii24
      @a-10thunderboltii24 3 года назад

      I would like a link for that. The F35 is worse at dogfighting, but the F22 is better than both in BVR and wvr

    • @TheBigChad
      @TheBigChad 3 года назад

      @@a-10thunderboltii24 people always clump the f35 into that group and it pisses me off because it’s not a fighter. They can talk all they want about the new mig vs the f35 and I’m like yeah because the f35 isn’t a fucking fighter. That’s what the f22 is for. People are just stupid

    • @isziahs5951
      @isziahs5951 3 года назад

      @@a-10thunderboltii24 wvr? Yeah right 😂

  • @zeppirl
    @zeppirl 6 лет назад +4

    Eurofighter was the best in its day a decade ago. It needs a update in the next decade. Tech needed has advanced.

  • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
    @KevinSmith-qi5yn 5 лет назад +8

    Currently the only match for the F-22 is the YF-23. But I am fairly certain the US is developing 6th generation fighters.

    • @coty.ott0359
      @coty.ott0359 5 лет назад

      Nahh they canceled f22 because it’s to advanced and don’t need so we made the f35 which is still better

    • @babyyoda3497
      @babyyoda3497 3 года назад

      So you think the us is working on a 6th Generation Fighter after they finished their F-35 programm? Ok I don't think so

    • @KevinSmith-qi5yn
      @KevinSmith-qi5yn 3 года назад

      @@babyyoda3497 It's been nearly 30 years since the YF-22 began development. Yea I think they are working on a replacement.

  • @go4usc21
    @go4usc21 5 лет назад +7

    The name of the video should be 15 typhoons vs 2 F-22s and why the typhoon gets waxed.

  • @forzaisspeed
    @forzaisspeed 3 года назад +3

    The Eurofighter is just the best end of, not to mention out of the 2 the Eurofighter has a positive win rate over the F-22.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 3 года назад

      Definitely not.

    • @forzaisspeed
      @forzaisspeed 3 года назад

      @@ALLAHALLAHism
      Kid the Eurofighter is better deal with it.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 3 года назад

      @@forzaisspeed cope

    • @forzaisspeed
      @forzaisspeed 3 года назад

      @@ALLAHALLAHism
      Kid grow up.

    • @ALLAHALLAHism
      @ALLAHALLAHism 3 года назад

      @@forzaisspeed as soon as you stop being wrong and simping for clearly inferior fighter crafts. You must honestly be on some amazing drugs to think the the eurofighter would ever beat an f22 let alone detect it before being shot down.

  • @octoman_games
    @octoman_games 5 лет назад +138

    A LOT of the F22's capabilities are unknown..so..

    • @ryannichols8315
      @ryannichols8315 5 лет назад +15

      That's the problem with these comparison videos. 50 years ago the Raptor would be a classified aircraft that nobody even knew about. But it's nearly impossible today to have a secret aircraft. But they keep some of its capabilities secret.
      Most of the time the f22 flies without it's full stealth capability. So nations like China and Iran can't practice tracking it.

    • @isaiahlee2902
      @isaiahlee2902 5 лет назад +9

      @Repent_And_Follow_Jesus World umm, sure, but I think you're in the wrong comment thread...
      Edit: you might want to work on your punctuation too...

    • @thomaswijgerse723
      @thomaswijgerse723 5 лет назад +3

      @Repent_And_Follow_Jesus World wrong video mate...

    • @raytrench2265
      @raytrench2265 5 лет назад

      If they are unknown how do you know?

    • @raytrench2265
      @raytrench2265 5 лет назад

      @Alex Tourigny that could be true of any aircraft - full capability not known. I recall a German Typhoon pilot saying they had 'Raptor salad for lunch'

  • @RapperFlo
    @RapperFlo 5 лет назад +9

    How can you say that the Typhoon has better energy conservation and an advantage in climbing if you stated in your own comparison 1 min ago, that the F22 has double the thrust and higher climbrate???

    • @xxnightdriverxx9576
      @xxnightdriverxx9576 5 лет назад +2

      the F22 is also a lot heavier. So double the thrust does not mean anything. The F22 is also not designed for a dogfight, but the Typhoon is. I personally think that it comes much more down to the split second decisions the pilots have to make.

  • @sergarlantyrell7847
    @sergarlantyrell7847 4 года назад +13

    Hardly a fair comparison... the Typhoon costs roughly $185 million each (program cost for the UK divided by the number of aircraft) compared to $360 million each for the F-22 (calculated in the same way).
    So the F-22 is effectively twice as expensive as the Typhoon, so a fairer comparison would be 2x Typhoons vs 1x F-22.
    Also, comparing stuff like length and wingspan is meaningless and shouldn't be used in any comparison beyond the toddler's edition of top trumps. What you neglected to factor in was mass.
    The F-22 might be much more powerful but it's also a much heavier aircraft, weighing about 29 tonnes loaded compared to 16 tonnes for the Typhoon, so the F-22's power to weight is only 1.08 vs 1.15 for the Typhoon (both in fighter configuration with full internal fuel).
    And then there is wing loading, which affects manouverability (if they get to winin dogfighting range). Again the F-22's mass hurts it badly, with 377 kg/m^2 vs 312 kg/m^2 than the smaller and lighter Typhoon.
    Then there is the stealth question, a 300km missile isn't going to do the Typhoon much good if it can't see the F-22 till it's 20km away. Equally, the "200km radar" (which doesn't actually mean it will see Typhoon at 200km, just something like a B-52 or Tu-95) of the F-22 will be practically useless, because as soon as it turns it on, it's sending out a beacon for the enemy to locate it, so it will be relying on targeting info from AWACS (come to think of it is the perfect target for a 300km range missile...) or ground-based radar.
    It will be a bit like a game of cat-and-mouse, each side trying to take out each other's radar spotters.

    • @spectermad9180
      @spectermad9180 2 года назад

      Well its about the Country the USA spend alot because there ready to protect us the American people...and we help out many other Country...its just we get it... we can never like Europe go to sleep... And let everything happen and not be able to do nothing about nothing... The United States don't work that way if there's a problem we fix it...or we put are Boot in someone ass...remember the world looks to America for help with everything..we even take care of Europe...

    • @jameskester7745
      @jameskester7745 2 года назад

      I believe this is incorrect, the thrust to weight ratio of an F22 is around 1.72. I believe it is the most of any fighter, and is why it can super cruse without the use of afterburner. It's also why it can come to a complete stop in the air, and then regain its energy w/o having to point its nose towards the earth.

    • @dazhibernian
      @dazhibernian 2 года назад +2

      I heard the Typhoon has a more comfortable seat & an extra cup holder.

    • @remulsive9558
      @remulsive9558 7 месяцев назад

      Not really on the last part, the F-22 has AESA radar with LPI characteristics. It won't be easy for the typhoon to pick up

    • @NeilHarris-gf4ew
      @NeilHarris-gf4ew 2 месяца назад

      Here's a raptor
      Eurofighter=Hold my beer

  • @Suo_kongque
    @Suo_kongque 2 года назад +1

    I’ve just got to say, everyone in the comments is being very mature and respectful.
    These 2 are tied for my favourite plane, and I could never choose a favourite child.

  • @saturnvmoon8592
    @saturnvmoon8592 5 лет назад +24

    That doesn't include the upgraded avionics being put into then RAF typhoon which can detect the f22 from the 300km of that missile and track and engage

    • @johanlassen6448
      @johanlassen6448 5 лет назад +10

      Lol, what nonsense. There are no upgrades that allow Typhoons to detect, let alone track, an F-22 from 300km of range. That is just your fantasies.

    • @ClarksonsinUSA
      @ClarksonsinUSA 5 лет назад +2

      :) right !

    • @saturnvmoon8592
      @saturnvmoon8592 5 лет назад +4

      @@fexilsehn6445 the mbda meteor is a ramjet mach 4 plus missile with a radar guidance system similar to the asraam which with mid flight course corrections given by datalink until the small radar on the missile can pick up the f22
      It has a no escape range of over 150km and is expected to have a maximum range over 400km however it might miss if evasive manuvers but will likely 'threaten' the f22 far enough out that they might not want to go in for a fight

    • @Max-np6wi
      @Max-np6wi 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, no, dream on.

    • @thesaint5619
      @thesaint5619 4 года назад

      Raptor would be unbeatable end of story dude

  • @l3gionmusic814
    @l3gionmusic814 5 лет назад +5

    If I'm still actually alive when it is put in to service, I'd love to see how the RAF Tempest compares.

    • @smd1011
      @smd1011 4 года назад

      L3GION MUSIC 2035

  • @garvincentcia5873
    @garvincentcia5873 4 года назад +3

    I'm thinking the typhoon with infrared tracking could possible track heat signatures of the air and turbulence friction heat around the F-22 fuselage in far distance fight so the f-22 would have to close the gap low flying do to air temperature's above 1,000 feet .

  • @neilfrozenoak5438
    @neilfrozenoak5438 10 месяцев назад

    Update to this, during mock battles, Phoon and F22 in a dogfight was a pretty even contest, Phoon scored hits on the 22, but Phoon pilots acknowledged, that F22 had seen them and could've engaged before it showed up on Phoons radar.

  • @coverfish4672
    @coverfish4672 6 лет назад +52

    the f-22 Looks cooler

    • @admiralkipper4540
      @admiralkipper4540 6 лет назад +1

      i disagree, im biased toward my nations look but hey the f15 on the other hand is the best looking fighter ever made i think

    • @superdolphin440
      @superdolphin440 5 лет назад

      I agree

    • @pretzelboi64
      @pretzelboi64 5 лет назад

      @@admiralkipper4540 The F-22 certainly looks the most hi-tech compared to any other fighter, though. It looks futuristic yet it's not.

  • @yourmother1921
    @yourmother1921 6 лет назад +5

    Typhoons are used for OTH. However RAF pilots are trained to dogfight aswell.

  • @almightyIrie
    @almightyIrie 5 лет назад +3

    Pretty sure the typhoon has a proper radar as well and IRST is just a bonus.. That being said, F-22 all day, even after the merge.. Thrust vectoring + 9X = quick end WVR

  • @MrBabylon
    @MrBabylon 4 года назад +2

    There are exercises carried out in Alaska between USAF and various European AFs, German and British have taken part on several occasions with Typhoons.
    In BVR the F22 can see the Typhoon before it can be discovered but the AIM120 is just not good enough to hit anything decent beyond 50-60Km, beyond 60Km the missile has spent it's fuel and is coasting on a downward trajectory and slowing down, something the Typhoon can easily dodge.
    Within 50Km the Typhoon and the F22 are equally likely to score a kill.
    In a dogfight the Typhoon edges slightly ahead of the F22 due to aerodynamic efficiency and a very wide angle of attach, twice that of the F22.
    The thrust vectoring of the F22 was tried in combat exercises against the Typhoon, on nearly every occasion it resulted in the F22 being killed!
    The manoeuvre cost the F22 so much energy (slowed it down too much) that it allowed the Typhoon to get into a better position and score a kill.
    The two aircraft are so closely matched that pilot skill is usually the deciding factor in any engagement.

  • @danielfronc4304
    @danielfronc4304 4 года назад +4

    It always depends on the pilot and their experience when going against one another. Also, the AWACS is a trump card.

  • @picklerick7953
    @picklerick7953 5 лет назад +4

    I've always been fascinated with the f22 it's such a sleek good looking death machine

  • @iwydadi
    @iwydadi 3 года назад +3

    The difference is the F-22 Unknown and Typhoon well known!

  • @jamesmneenan
    @jamesmneenan 4 года назад +2

    I think the Raptor is the superior aircraft, but I guess something to take into consideration is that 2 Raptors basically cost the same as 3 Typhoons...

    • @Balnazzardi
      @Balnazzardi 4 года назад

      That + Typhoon is better actually at multi-role tasks (aka able to carry bigger load against ground targets) while Raptor is ofc designed mainly as air superiority fighter. Anyhow pointless comparison in sense that they would never go against one another and would actually rather work together to take down Russian or Chinese aircraft if it came down to that (hopefully never does happen)

  • @ClarksonsinUSA
    @ClarksonsinUSA 6 лет назад +36

    2 kinds of Aircraft,Stealth and Targets!!!

  • @judmaierm7752
    @judmaierm7752 5 лет назад +5

    The Eurofighter Typhoon has Chaff/Flare capability even from the first iteration

  • @pumagepard9592
    @pumagepard9592 5 лет назад +4

    J-37 VIGGEN AGAINST GR4 TORNADO OR F-15E AGAINST MIG-31.
    thanks for super video.

  • @ioannistsagas5290
    @ioannistsagas5290 4 года назад

    Very Nice Video. We are expecting more like this, with jet fighters like Rafale, Gripen, F-16, F-15, Mirage 200, F-35, Russian planes, Eurofighter typhoon, etc

  • @smoke_eater_
    @smoke_eater_ 5 лет назад +5

    ACM, BVR, WVR, and BCM, the F22 would absolutely destroy any fighter. Period. No close fight, no close calls. Great video, but talking and seeing this thing fly in real life, the Raptor is it’s own comparison.

    • @martinw245
      @martinw245 5 лет назад

      No! I've seen both at airshows too. Which tells you nothing about performance in true combat. The videos conclusions are valid in my opinion. BVR the Typhoon would be screwed. But dogfighting the Typhoon would come out on top. Yes the F22 has vectored thrust, but with helmet mounted sights and off boresight capability the vectored thrust capability is negated. The F22 is also bigger and heavier and bleeds energy quicker.
      German Tyhoon pilot Marc Grune commented after red flag where the Typhoon scored a number of kills against the F22...
      “As soon as you get to the merge … the Typhoon doesn’t necessarily have to fear the F-22”.
      The problem in the merge is that the F22 bleeds a lot of speed that leaves it vulnerable.

  • @Waggis1
    @Waggis1 4 года назад +4

    I think you can get several Typhoons for the cost of one raptor though

    • @belledetector
      @belledetector 2 года назад

      Not really. Current prices for typhoons are 124mm. Raptors were around 180-200mm but would have fallen to abt. 120mm a piece if the production had not been cancelled. Only 184 planes produced from over 750 ordered by the usaf. (Operation costs/hr however are significantly higher).

  • @CLVASHJBHWFS
    @CLVASHJBHWFS 5 лет назад +4

    Why show the two seat trainer version of the Typhoon. No one knows how good these aircraft are anyhow.

  • @Gen_Kael
    @Gen_Kael 4 года назад +2

    I worked for a contractor on the Savannah airport. I got to watch the f22s take off from the airbase that's right there. And when they take off, they go straight up. But what really blew my mind was watching them turn. It literally looked like they were going 45 miles an hour through a round about. Amazing how it didnt crash. That thing turned on a dime.
    No disrespect to the eurofighter, but the raptor would win before he even saw it. And in the odd chance he didnt, that thrust vectoring will make all the difference.

    • @DG-EditsYT
      @DG-EditsYT Год назад

      You sound like an airshow enthusiast

    • @adrianh332
      @adrianh332 10 месяцев назад

      Also the F-22 pilots are forbidden from performing or showing everything the aircraft is capable of even when engaged in wargames with allied nations, that's how secret some of the technology still is.

  • @craig855s
    @craig855s 6 лет назад +20

    Typhoon carries Chaff and Flare (and soon, brightcloud), and also ASRAAM, AMRAAM, Meteor, Storm shadow, PW IV. Im sure the F22 also carried stuff you havenet mentioned.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +2

      Yeah, we wanted to keep the video short and did not go into all the armament details, but if you look at the Eurofighter Typhoon's official web page, there are a ton of armament options available. We are really interested in the future Meteor.

    • @zodsmuffin2369
      @zodsmuffin2369 6 лет назад +2

      ye and at redflag the typhoon all ways beats the f22

    • @zaldyfernandez2792
      @zaldyfernandez2792 6 лет назад +3

      160 bullet rounds for typoon and 400 bullets rounds for raptor the pilot training skills win at dogfight 😂😂😂

    • @zodsmuffin2369
      @zodsmuffin2369 6 лет назад +2

      Zaldy Fernandez pilot training that's why the typhoon all ways wins at red flag look it up

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +4

      Red Flag Alaska is an interesting data point, but keep in mind these types of showdowns usually have several artificial limits in place.

  • @smooth_sundaes5172
    @smooth_sundaes5172 6 лет назад +4

    Call me cynical, and not to blot the countries in question necessarily but... going by history I think there is a much higher possibility the F22 would be matched against the French Rafale than the Typhoon II

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +4

      We have a Dassault Rafale video planned for the future.

  • @navynightranger6517
    @navynightranger6517 6 лет назад +12

    Fully load the typhoon then compare

    • @webbit1518
      @webbit1518 5 лет назад

      Its about distance...The Raptor can see 200 more miles and it will position itself accordingly. The Raptor wont purposely put itself into a one on one dogfight.

    • @zacharycrosier9296
      @zacharycrosier9296 5 лет назад +1

      Fully loading the typhoon would only slow/weigh it down. Diminishing the only advantage it would have, dogfighting.

    • @bingusbongus7313
      @bingusbongus7313 4 года назад

      Tony Beard twat

  • @NotRiansLuke
    @NotRiansLuke 4 года назад +1

    People used to think the F-15 would stand a chance against the F-22, but in combat sims, the F-22 takes out the F-15s time and again before the F-15 even knows it's under attack. One combat sim, the F-22 took out something like 8 F-15s. I suspect it would be the same w/ the Typhoon. There would be no dogfight.

    • @NotRiansLuke
      @NotRiansLuke 4 года назад

      @@EmperorLionflame Typhoon is 4th gen+, while F-22 is 5th gen. Typhoon won't even see F-22 on its radar until it (the Typhoon) is already dead.

    • @NotRiansLuke
      @NotRiansLuke 4 года назад

      @@EmperorLionflame Actual combat training the Typhoon scores some hits, but the F-22 is still the superior fighter and brings down more Typhoons
      . migflug.com/jetflights/p-i-r-a-t-e-versus-raptor/

  • @Dimaz42
    @Dimaz42 5 лет назад +5

    The Wright Bros’ OG aircraft would nuke them to oblivion

  • @BradGatton
    @BradGatton 6 лет назад +30

    F-22 vs Cessna 172?

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +4

      Sure. When we run out of planes ;-)

    • @Joetrout
      @Joetrout 5 лет назад +1

      With cessnas drug cartel pilot he would gun down the f22 pilot before he got on his fighter jet! So the cessna wins!

    • @rangey7096
      @rangey7096 5 лет назад +1

      Cessna ofc

    • @alejandrocabreralorca8042
      @alejandrocabreralorca8042 5 лет назад

      Rafale vs Alpha Jet

  • @BobMarley-yq3wi
    @BobMarley-yq3wi 6 лет назад +16

    You neglected to mention operational readiness where the f22 is shockingly bad compared with the typhoon. Hours in maintenance vs flying hours mean the f22 won’t even be airborne whilst the eurofighter remains in operation.

    • @rogersmith573
      @rogersmith573 5 лет назад +1

      THIS! is the true weakness of the plane!

    • @villarreal6
      @villarreal6 5 лет назад +1

      Hahaha I do know we have like 90 serviceable f22 jets. Right by ur front door. A companied by 19 aircraft carriers with f 35s, f 18, f 15 jets ready to kill n e thing.

    • @gups4963
      @gups4963 5 лет назад

      What Villarreal said is correct. To put it simply, the F-22s go out a kill all the advanced fighters in the first days of the conflict and then take a good bit before being able to do so again. However, now that the good fighters are sprinkled all over the ground, the conventional fighters come out and finish off any opponent

    • @d.f.9140
      @d.f.9140 5 лет назад

      So american air superiority doctrine is copy paste of german ww2 tank warfare?
      Make a big, from technical point of view, pretty damn good Warmachine, field it, loose eventually some, don't being able to recover the losses in a proper amount of time.
      Even the range advantage is given on paper, visibility low due to stealth instead of camo...
      Well as a german, I have to say, that's a bold move, that can get u loose a good amount of skirmishes, even with support.
      It only takes a country with a good amount of technical expertise and a war scenario to get a taste of Germanys ww2 invasion of Britain Fail.

  • @erikschaarschmidt8799
    @erikschaarschmidt8799 3 года назад +1

    I´m from Germany but I think the F22 is better because it is simply better in stealth.

  • @richardthantzin1229
    @richardthantzin1229 5 лет назад +5

    Close call but F-22 will win hands down. Already proven in the past. F-22 has the stealth advantage, meaning it will lock on and shoot down the Eurofighter first. Still, the Eurofighter is an amazing fighter jet. In my opinion, USAF should have bought, say between 100 - 200, and use together with the F-35.

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 2 года назад +1

      The Eurofighter with IRIS-T can simply shoot down incoming missiles so the F22 has no chance since the Eurofighter can carry more IRIS-T than the F22 can carry AA missiles. Also the Eurofighter has Meteor which is just about the best long range AA missile out there. Not to mention that the EF also has a towed decoy and lots of electronic warfare systems to counter incoming missiles. In the end the F22 is only stealthy from certain angles and even then it still has to shot rockets which can be countered so the stealth of the F22 makes it fatter and slower but gives it no advantage in the real world.

    • @davidpavlich8939
      @davidpavlich8939 Год назад

      ​@@swunt10BVR engagement, the F22 wins easily since the Typhoon's radar cross selection would be easily detected by the F22. Close in dog fight now becomes a pilot vs pilot fight. The better pilot stands the best chance.

    • @swunt10
      @swunt10 Год назад

      @@davidpavlich8939 You need to learn to read boy. The Eurofighter carries IRIS-T missiles to shoot down incoming missiles. So the F22 would detect the EF first and shoot BVR, at that moment the Eurofighter would detect the presence of the F22, shoot down the incoming missiles thanks to it's air defense IRIS-T capability and then proceed to shoot down the F22 with the Meteor also at BVR distance. Job done. The real world is not an american movie.

    • @davidpavlich8939
      @davidpavlich8939 Год назад

      @@swunt10 so how many enemy missiles has the Typhoon knocked out of the sky?

    • @davidpavlich8939
      @davidpavlich8939 Год назад

      @@swunt10 I did a little research and found that the iris in theory can take out another air to air missile but it’s not foolproof like you make it out to be. It’s a very good missile against other fighters and the surface to air version is quite good. I’m skeptical when it comes to hitting something like an Aim 120, especially nose to nose considering that it’s an infrared seeker.

  • @hx1234
    @hx1234 5 лет назад +4

    The f22 will most likely never be in a dog fight because it'll detect the other fighter jets before it even knows the f22 is near.

    • @Cars-N-Jets
      @Cars-N-Jets 4 года назад

      Teng Xiong I Agree 🇺🇸

    • @Ruffstantin
      @Ruffstantin 4 года назад

      But the passive Radar of the typhoon can detect stealth planes, and the F22 and the F35 have only active Radar. The typhoon isn't a real stealth plane but the radar signature is very small, especially from the front, because of the materials and the optimized air intake. There is a reason, why the Air Force don't want to make red flag operations with the F22 against the typhoon anymore.

  • @toddbrackett4277
    @toddbrackett4277 5 лет назад +12

    Let's see the upgraded F-15 vs Eurofighter. F-22 vs Eurofighter would not be a close fight.

    • @DDuMas
      @DDuMas 5 лет назад

      The F-15X and the very latest Eurofighter, I think would come down to the pilots.

    • @toddbrackett4277
      @toddbrackett4277 5 лет назад

      @@DDuMas let's see that match up. Perhaps the Eurofighter Tranche 3A vs F-15EX.

    • @D0csavage1
      @D0csavage1 4 года назад

      Two F15's pounced on a lone Typhoon in the UK, kick starting a mock dog fight, had the Eurofighter carried live ordnance it would have shot those two F15 bullies out of the sky!

    • @toddbrackett4277
      @toddbrackett4277 4 года назад

      @@D0csavage1 I'd be interested in reading the after action on that drill. There are F-15s in England so they must train with the Eurofighters frequently. Still think that it's foolish to compare any 4th gen fighter to the F-22.

    • @DDuMas
      @DDuMas 4 года назад +1

      @@toddbrackett4277 Yes and no. A top tier 4.5th gen fighter becomes a serious threat to a 5th gen fighter close up.
      It's why they don't send 5th gen fighters on intercept missions. Weapons are internal and it's just not as ready. Some of the Sukhois can practically turn on any axis to face them.
      F-22 pilots would say up close isn't where they want to be. Partly because they lose many of their advantages. Doesn't mean the F-22 would lose or the pilot wouldn't be able to get out of that, just that it isn't ideal.
      They still would send an F-15 up on an intercept mission over a 5th gen fighter.
      ruclips.net/video/m9lycelnUzY/видео.html

  • @scottworley1479
    @scottworley1479 4 года назад

    1 f22 raptor went against 5 f15 eagles in a mock dogfight with no side giving any mercy. All of the f15 pilots were shot down 1 at a time. They said it was like shooting fish in a barrel. The pilots of the f15s said they never even saw the f22 no matter what they did. They said the only time they even knew the f22 was targeting them was when they were floating down in their parachutes. Figuratively.

  • @Messerschmidt_Me-262
    @Messerschmidt_Me-262 6 лет назад +4

    You should do the 787 vs A350, which is more efficient

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  6 лет назад +3

      We are probably going to focus on Military for the next few months, but will add this to our idea list. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @jonivogel3188
      @jonivogel3188 5 лет назад +1

      787 is more efficient on shorter hauls and the a350 more efficient on longer hauls.

  • @dalakaotabay1758
    @dalakaotabay1758 5 лет назад +3

    Is there a Su-47 Berkut vs F-22 Raptor?

    • @toddbrackett4277
      @toddbrackett4277 4 года назад

      The SU-47 was a technology demonstrator and never developed into a production aircraft, any comparison would be pure imagination.

  • @Balnazzardi
    @Balnazzardi 4 года назад +7

    Few things to consider:
    F-22 is 5th gen fighter, Typhoon is 4.5 at best.
    F-22 is much more expensive, more expensive to operate and more expensive to repair if damaged
    As much more affordable fighter and not being US based alone, Typhoon obviously can be manufactured at much higher numbers.

    • @johnmelvinluce5320
      @johnmelvinluce5320 4 года назад

      The SU -35 would be a great fight against both

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 4 года назад

      It comes down different philosophies. European countries want cheaper, but relatively advanced aircraft for militaries on smaller budgets. The US wants the best money can buy to compliment it's enormous stockpile of F-18's and F-16's. The US, with the world's largest airforce, has adopted basically the Russian philosophy behind tanks. A lot of decent tanks to swarm, led by a few super advanced tanks

    • @Balnazzardi
      @Balnazzardi 4 года назад

      @@EmperorLionflame well lets be fair though, USA has without a doubt the strongest Air Force and Navy in the world. That being said they are definitely pushing more money into their military programs than they can really afford and limiting F22 fleet to 200 fighters when they could not really afford to build more of them.
      Also from what I understand the Navy wanted to continue relying on Super Hornets as well as F35s and not replace all of the Super Hornets cause they are cheaper and combat proven fighters where f35 obviously costs heck of lot more and its capabilities in real situation is more than a question mark

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 4 года назад +2

      @@EmperorLionflame The Zumwalt wasn't a flop. It was an experiment because the US has the money to spend on testing different ideas.

    • @chaosXP3RT
      @chaosXP3RT 4 года назад +2

      @@EmperorLionflame 🙄 You Europeans call Americans arrogant, but you got a real superiority complex. I can tell

  • @abskateboard
    @abskateboard 2 года назад +1

    Good thing we’re on the same team

  • @cgabrielac
    @cgabrielac 2 года назад +4

    I think the EFT needs 5x less take-off distance than the F-22, which can be key to reacting fast and in short spaces, also is in the air in 8s, and has more distance range autonomy.

    • @ProjectDaVinci
      @ProjectDaVinci  2 года назад +1

      Part of why we thought it was a worthy comparison

  • @predator-mx7zf
    @predator-mx7zf 4 года назад +11

    France and Germany, a new step in FCAS project - Europe's 6th Generation Stealth Fighter.
    Google Raptor salad for lunch , German pilots said. Lol

  • @virginialoverproductions
    @virginialoverproductions 5 лет назад +6

    Two beautiful birds. It would be a shame if they would have to kill each other.

  • @panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080
    @panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080 3 года назад

    So much information in a 5 minute and a half video, nice!

  • @yd3828
    @yd3828 5 лет назад +4

    Rafale vs euro fighter? The fight between two European brothers

  • @gentlemen.7621
    @gentlemen.7621 4 года назад +3

    Oh, and let the A-10 Warthog deal with other competitors preparing on the ground.

  • @mykosumo9478
    @mykosumo9478 4 года назад +4

    To put this in percpective, the raptor is a sniper and the typhoon is a front line assault rifle infantry soldier.

  • @paulnaylor6035
    @paulnaylor6035 3 года назад +2

    Seen a typhoon fly at air shows in the uk a few times the noise and speeds are incredible would love to see a raptor or better yet a top gear drag race between the two I would pay to see that ...

  • @samgross4411
    @samgross4411 4 года назад +3

    The typhoon looks sleeker and more mature

  • @forlorndream1400
    @forlorndream1400 4 года назад +6

    I'm English so you might expect me to favour the Typhoon but I'd always take stealth over an open fight.
    The enemy doesn't need to know who killed him, he just needs to be dead.

    • @burnyt3077
      @burnyt3077 4 года назад

      Well keep an eye on our 6th generation BAE tempest then

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 года назад

      @@burnyt3077 It will never get built past the Bondo stage of wood and glue with a nice coat of paint. Not that you couldn't, but the UK Parliament will never fund it. The best case scenario for UK 6th Gen is a joint project with the US, because even we with our $719 billion budget are already looking wearily at the PCA. We should consider a US/Canada/UK PCA program that satisfies NORAD and UK airspace defense, as well as the PCA mission profiles. You can trade speed for endurance as the mission demands with the same airframe, while cooperatively funding and supporting the defense industries of all 3 nations. Maybe even get Australia and Japan on board.

    • @charlestaylor9424
      @charlestaylor9424 4 года назад

      @@LRRPFco52 well it is funded by BAe and Aeronautica Militaire

    • @LRRPFco52
      @LRRPFco52 4 года назад

      @@charlestaylor9424 Who is the customer? The F-22 cost $32.4 billion just for development.
      Have you ever looked at the UK's air component development budget? They've recently merged RAF with Royal Navy air power, and still don't have that kind of budget for developing the next generation fighter technology being discussed.
      UK's total defence budget was just increased to £37.9 billion. That has to pay for everything including QE carrier, F-35Bs, Typhoons, ships, the Army, Royal Marines, etc.
      There simply isn't even close to enough money to take on Tempest.

    • @Mr.SpocksBrain
      @Mr.SpocksBrain 4 года назад

      Passive Radar proved stealth as a big bluff mate

  • @jqmachgunner2577
    @jqmachgunner2577 4 года назад +6

    One truth has emerged, the Raptor kills you before you ever knew it was there lighting you up.

  • @leewainwright3526
    @leewainwright3526 Год назад

    more than likely to see these two fighting side by side than against each other

  • @bestamerica
    @bestamerica 6 лет назад +15

    '
    right grammar title is = F-22 Raptor vs Eurofighter Typhoon: Which One Would Win ? =...
    wrong grammar is = F-22 Raptor vs Eurofighter Typhoon: Who Would Win? =...
    both planes are NOT who...
    planes are not persons

    • @superdolphin440
      @superdolphin440 5 лет назад +4

      Did you just assume the planes' gender?!?!

    • @bestamerica
      @bestamerica 5 лет назад

      @@superdolphin440
      '
      hi A Z...
      the plane is a vehicle and not gender sex as F or M...
      not even human = huwoman

    • @superdolphin440
      @superdolphin440 5 лет назад +2

      @@bestamerica r/wooooooosh

    • @GonzoTehGreat
      @GonzoTehGreat 5 лет назад

      Just swap "Who" for "Which" as you don't need the "One".

    • @ravenheart369
      @ravenheart369 5 лет назад

      In english,every manmade movable machine called 'she'!!
      So it is not incorrect to say who rather than which
      'Who' is informal
      'Which' is formal

  • @housel9352
    @housel9352 4 года назад +3

    Bad news everybody, the countries that own these beautiful jets are pretty close.

    • @Mr.SpocksBrain
      @Mr.SpocksBrain 4 года назад +1

      With Trump in charge no former allied country is save.

  • @paulletchworth8127
    @paulletchworth8127 5 лет назад +8

    Raptor would win hands down in every scenario

    • @interestingrailwaysuk5703
      @interestingrailwaysuk5703 5 лет назад

      No, it is less nimble than the Eurofighter. Long range, it will mostly likely beat the Typhoon. But the Typhoon can still be developed for longer range combat (as explained by describing missile upgrades etc). In close range, the Typhoon would comfortably outmanoeuvre the F22, as achieved in mock dogfights undertaken in the US not too long ago. Cheers, Mark.

    • @dumdumbinks274
      @dumdumbinks274 5 лет назад

      @@interestingrailwaysuk5703 Not really. The Typhoon is equal to the F-22 in a dogfight and it comes down to pilot skill and familiarity with the opposition.

  • @jxsnn
    @jxsnn 2 года назад

    I love typhoons, hear them fly over me every single hour since I live right near the UK's typhoon airbase