Chris, you really need to look into getting an arc-droid plasma cutter. They may even sponsor you! They're a fantastic little piece of kit. That wing upright would've been done in just a min or so! Super compact units as well.
@@carlbjacob7940 this right here is how I know the “better hours” thing is all BS. He owns his own shop and business…give him the keys to work when he wants and pay him accordingly… clearly he was sick of it for whatever reason…
@@alexduran6742agreed... The pontoon idea didn't hold interest after Oscar left... Oscar popping in and out would be still fun because his level of skill is pretty damn good... Chris will get it all sorted .... But a part time Oscar or another person with that level of skill seems needed just to keep pace
Love reading comments from a bunch of nobodies who've never done anything remotely close to this complaining about how stuff is being done. You're quite literally free to watch another channel. You're not a hostage here.
Hindsight, maybe if you could integrate the factory 3rd brake light into your custom hood/roof/hatch scoop final design? It would add even more functionality within creative design.
@@stephenbradley5805 oscar wanted a steady work schedule (i.e. 9-5) so he could spend more time with his family. At the same time try other industrial machines for metal works
Forgot where I saw it, but for those tracking dots lay strips of painters tape down and then put the dots on that. So, when you go to take them off, you just peel the tape.
2 things. Use flower and coat the body to get a 3d scan. 2nd thing. Use weather strips like they do for doors to keep the air in the roof air duct from “leaking”. I hope this helps✌️
@bisforbuild use the original wing brackets as sandwich plates for the bottom of the wing. Bolt through the top gooseneck to the original underneath bracket.
a 2-birds-with-1-stone idea: Those nubs next to the taillights: Mount rods to the top of them, that support the wing from underneath. Thin adjustable rods like you usually see on front splitters. If you add two to each nub, in a v-shape, that will also triangulate the wing for increased stability.
When I was younger I put together a model car of a De Tomaso Pantera with a pro stock hood scoop mounted to the rear hatch and overhanging the roof. That roof scoop reminded me of that.
I agree Oscar is needed back. The channel is not the same at all. Bring him back at whatever his new job was plus 5% more power over his new job with his same hours
Rear valance options: 1. Leave it. It actually plays into the Cyberpunk look. 2. 3D print small cones to fade it into the upper deck. If you use black ASA or ABS, you wouldn't even need to fiberglass. 3. Same fade bits as #2, but do the fiberglass process you are doing for all the other printed panels.
SuperFastMatt has a really good video on 3D scanning, he has these little 3D printed 10 sided dice looking things with permanent dots on them and they provide different shaped objects you can reuse instead of putting dots on everything all the time. His videos are also really funny and he makes cool shit.
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but spackle is water based and as you found out heat sensitive. I'd recommend sanding primer off and soaking the panel in a tub of water. which should allow you to scape off the spackle. Then you could use real auto body filler on it. I suspect that even with the primer on the panel as is, that the heat and moisture from the molding compound will bubble and ruin the mold. Just a thought. Looking forward to another awesome build!
I love Oscar but I also love seeing Chris back to actually doing stuff instead of just tasking Oscar to do everything. Good for Chris too to improve his metal work and welding, then Oscar can come back xD
I like where you are headed. Another epic build, down to the wire. Not that it matters, but I'm sure we would like to see Oscar again for a little while.
I love this channel cause Chris one of us. I would legit want to chill with dude just cause he makes me think he's like a friend of mine. You don't get that too often on YT lol
Just a quick food for thought comment here. You mentioned that if this tail light fits then you throw it in the trash and print the real one. There are lots of companies out there that actually do recycling for 3D print stuff. I remember seeing one company that would actually send you a spool back after you had sent in x amount of recyclable stuff. With as much stuff as you print for trials, that would definitely be something worth looking into.
For the bumper part that sticks out, don’t cut the hatch, just build like a half piece that you stick on top of the hatch the flows and connects into the bumper for a seamless look. Hope that makes sense. 👍🏽
Awesome stuff as always. Slow some of the fabrication footage down so we can see what’s happening, will make it a longer video too, which is always a good thing
With the hood scoop you could create the lap join after the piece comes out of the mould, I think street bandito does it this way but also Mike Patey. Makes a really accurate and well fitting parts.
@jerrywilcox9890 troll much? If you don't care that's cool. Some of us appreciated his work on the builds and would love to see him back. You don't have to be a dick considering we weren't asking YOU & YOU ain't got shit to do with it... so crawl back in your hole and stfu. Please & thank you
Since you ran bolts through the wing. I would recommend you use what’s called a weld nut for the nuts in the wing, they are great for hallow, foam core carbon.
You should reach out to Mike Essa re the mounting of the rear wing, they had to mount it to the lower chassis rail as the upper supports were collapsing under the pressure, appreciate you’ve probably already considered this but thought it worth flagging as dont want to see all your hard work explode at 200mph 😂
Always like your videos, so lucky you do 1:1 scale what i do in 1:5😅. When you print a plug, it has to have no flex. So a frame is needed and glued to the part. Then you do the mold and add a frame to it too. So no flex before you do the final fiberglass or carbon part. Thanks again for video. Sun and pla are not friends. One day i primed a printed wheel and let it under the sun. Evening the outside wheel was really smaller that the one stayed inside 😂
A great way to finish 3d prints is to paint then with UV resin from one of those style printers. Shine them from all sides with a UV flashlight. They'll need a wipe down with isopropyl and to be sanded smooth before finishing with filler primer and glazing putty. But it's a great way to at strength and a solid surface area for finishing. Cosplay and model makers have been using that technique for a few years now to great success. Haven't seen it on car parts, but it would save a lot of time to not have to make molds, and printing at super high resolution
A cool idea for the wing would be to have the hangers go through the wing to a mounting plate underneath I think that would look pretty clean. All though I suppose it doesn’t really matter with the theme your going with this time
You can add a stepped down lip on the front portion of the roof scoop that extends inside of the rear section to protect the airflow. I also second the other comment I saw about the Diablo JOTA style scoop inspiration.
Few years ago I converted the big wing on my beetle to swan neck the same way and it held without any problems. I had 6mm aluminium stands and had to cross brace them with one diagonal rod tho...
You could make a little lip on the underside of the roof scoop on the piece that will be fixed to the roof. That way no air should escape from the roof scoop.
I bet you could put a little step off on the roof scoop on the roof section with a small piece of weatherstrip so when it's closed it "seals" the cut to prevent external vacuum or an air leak.
God I love this channel for so many years already. The humor, the showing of mistakes and the quality of the builds. Yes I miss Oscar on the channel but that didn’t stop Chris from beeing awesome.
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You should really get a CNC plasma or laser cutting table sponsored for you. You’d be able to make such amazing parts so easily.
Or use send cut send
Or just grab a mini plasma cutter from Miller/Lincoln, hell even harbor freight.
Arcdroid
I was going to post this comment. Especially since he already has so much in CAD.
i was literally like how doesn't he have a plasma or wazer .. it's criminal
Chris, you really need to look into getting an arc-droid plasma cutter. They may even sponsor you! They're a fantastic little piece of kit. That wing upright would've been done in just a min or so! Super compact units as well.
B is for Bring Oscar back and let him work 9-5 ;)
@@carlbjacob7940 this right here is how I know the “better hours” thing is all BS. He owns his own shop and business…give him the keys to work when he wants and pay him accordingly… clearly he was sick of it for whatever reason…
A man of Oscars talents don't come cheap. The last couple videos of 3d scanning and such is challenging my attention span.
@@alexduran6742 it’s been a mess for awhile with all the random boat stuff now this plastic Lambo…
@@alexduran6742agreed... The pontoon idea didn't hold interest after Oscar left... Oscar popping in and out would be still fun because his level of skill is pretty damn good... Chris will get it all sorted .... But a part time Oscar or another person with that level of skill seems needed just to keep pace
Love reading comments from a bunch of nobodies who've never done anything remotely close to this complaining about how stuff is being done. You're quite literally free to watch another channel. You're not a hostage here.
Time to start washing your projects. Clean car clears the mind.
He needs that dust for his camera to "see."
Yes Oscar is much needed for this Chanel we missed a lot a man can do anything with steel
Hindsight, maybe if you could integrate the factory 3rd brake light into your custom hood/roof/hatch scoop final design? It would add even more functionality within creative design.
Great idea, I 2nd this!
Definitely add a thin strip of black rubber seal on the roof scoop cut. That is a detail that I would find impressive
most of the builds even tho look good. they are built janky and fast. which is the life of a YT car scene unfortunately
Without it I’d think there could be some loud whistling.
B is for Buying Oscar Back!!!
Oscar knew when to get out. Chris is unfortunately over his head and I'm hoping he powers through sober.
What happened Oscar left, I must have missed it
@@JB-mk4ry That's an odd thing to say
@@stephenbradley5805 oscar wanted a steady work schedule (i.e. 9-5) so he could spend more time with his family. At the same time try other industrial machines for metal works
Let it go man. Stop stressing chris with these kind of comments. move on.
Hate to tell you, but the bracket for the wing looks ridiculous!!! You need Oscar back!!!😳
Forgot where I saw it, but for those tracking dots lay strips of painters tape down and then put the dots on that. So, when you go to take them off, you just peel the tape.
Star creations did that on Leroy ;)
That wing location, mount and height actually turned out great! 💪🏼😎
After seeing the spoiler mounted, i think you should just forget about the duckbill
Your skill in the computer modeling and computer manipulation, is very impressive to me Chris! Atta boy!
The progress is looking amazing! Please call Oscar or bring in someone else. This build is too good to be rushed/not completely finished for SEMA!!
2 things. Use flower and coat the body to get a 3d scan. 2nd thing. Use weather strips like they do for doors to keep the air in the roof air duct from “leaking”. I hope this helps✌️
Cyberpunk is a major copout, I’m still gonna watch the build but I’ll be very excited once it comes time to build it clean
This car just gets better and better, I can't wait to see it finished!
That carbon fiber wing is so sick! The weave is amazing!
I agreed he needs oscar back, the spoiler bracket should have two plate with the bracket in the middle.
He's not coming back so get over it.
@bisforbuild use the original wing brackets as sandwich plates for the bottom of the wing. Bolt through the top gooseneck to the original underneath bracket.
Oscar, Oscar,Oscar hell yeah but I was enjoying watching your fabricated parts like the beginning again .
I missed These Builds so bad
To minimise the air leakage on the scoop, you could add an inner lip on the upper section that once the hatch is down, covers the gap from the inside.
B is for bring back Oscar!
Wasn’t sure on the roof scoop but as soon as you laid it down dam it looks good. And the wing 👌🏻👌🏻. Can’t wait to see this build finished
Bro just got those Air Max 90’s and he’s wearing them in the shop working on the cars. Love it!!!
a 2-birds-with-1-stone idea: Those nubs next to the taillights: Mount rods to the top of them, that support the wing from underneath. Thin adjustable rods like you usually see on front splitters. If you add two to each nub, in a v-shape, that will also triangulate the wing for increased stability.
The wing with the roof scoop looks awesome!
When I was younger I put together a model car of a De Tomaso Pantera with a pro stock hood scoop mounted to the rear hatch and overhanging the roof. That roof scoop reminded me of that.
I agree Oscar is needed back. The channel is not the same at all. Bring him back at whatever his new job was plus 5% more power over his new job with his same hours
Would love a special guest appearance by Oscar!
Why would he do that.hes got his own crap to do he's gone get over it.
Leave Oscar alone. His wish was to leave Bis4B and live his own life.
Keep going bro
Great - having built my own headlights..................DIY is so much better.
Great project !!
chris you have the best channel on youtube.
Been away from the channel for a while, love coming back to see another sick ass build
Never commented before but you should keep the fans in the back visible and paint the fins a neon color for the cyberpunk theme
Rear valance options:
1. Leave it. It actually plays into the Cyberpunk look.
2. 3D print small cones to fade it into the upper deck. If you use black ASA or ABS, you wouldn't even need to fiberglass.
3. Same fade bits as #2, but do the fiberglass process you are doing for all the other printed panels.
Good to see you getting measurements to confirm your scan ;)
SuperFastMatt has a really good video on 3D scanning, he has these little 3D printed 10 sided dice looking things with permanent dots on them and they provide different shaped objects you can reuse instead of putting dots on everything all the time. His videos are also really funny and he makes cool shit.
I am loving the series! Can't wait to see this complete
That wing is like the perfect design for an air brake system. Small actuator forcing the wing down.
Don't know if this has been mentioned, but spackle is water based and as you found out heat sensitive. I'd recommend sanding primer off and soaking the panel in a tub of water. which should allow you to scape off the spackle. Then you could use real auto body filler on it. I suspect that even with the primer on the panel as is, that the heat and moisture from the molding compound will bubble and ruin the mold. Just a thought. Looking forward to another awesome build!
You need oscar back. Or at least someone else.
Oscar did a good job. 😭
I love Oscar but I also love seeing Chris back to actually doing stuff instead of just tasking Oscar to do everything. Good for Chris too to improve his metal work and welding, then Oscar can come back xD
Wait what happened to Oscar?
@@freddydabossdonbd5052he quit to have more predictable hours at a regular job.
@@freddydabossdonbd5052 He got a really good job so had to move on. They did a video on it if you want to details.
LOVE the rear wing. LOVE the rear duckbill idea. LOVE the flat tailight setup. the ass end of this car is going to look SIIIIICK
I like where you are headed. Another epic build, down to the wire. Not that it matters, but I'm sure we would like to see Oscar again for a little while.
This car is going to be phenomenal when its done!!!
Wing standoffs may look cool with some sort of dimple die holes ,
I love this channel cause Chris one of us. I would legit want to chill with dude just cause he makes me think he's like a friend of mine. You don't get that too often on YT lol
I love watching your channel. i could watch them for hours at a time
The wing looks crazyyyy
Chris did a great job
Those clear engine cover slats look so good. I was wondering why the top one wasn't clear, now it makes sense!
Kyle did a great job!
I love that you make your own parts! Keep doing it 👌
you can make a rubber seal that will fit in whete the cut is so it separates when u open it and closes airtight when closed
Just a quick food for thought comment here. You mentioned that if this tail light fits then you throw it in the trash and print the real one. There are lots of companies out there that actually do recycling for 3D print stuff. I remember seeing one company that would actually send you a spool back after you had sent in x amount of recyclable stuff. With as much stuff as you print for trials, that would definitely be something worth looking into.
For the bumper part that sticks out, don’t cut the hatch, just build like a half piece that you stick on top of the hatch the flows and connects into the bumper for a seamless look. Hope that makes sense. 👍🏽
Awesome stuff as always. Slow some of the fabrication footage down so we can see what’s happening, will make it a longer video too, which is always a good thing
With the hood scoop you could create the lap join after the piece comes out of the mould, I think street bandito does it this way but also Mike Patey. Makes a really accurate and well fitting parts.
Great Air Max 90s as usual.
Finally back to car stuff
I wasn’t too much of a fan of that roof scoop but damn that 45° cut looks damn good
Your plan for the roof scoop is great.. that said.. I'd be different and make it match the windshield line.. nothing more.. just make it longer.. 🤔😎
Bring back Oscar just cause we miss his work!
He's not coming back he left for a reason. So get over it.
@@jerrywilcox9890 it’s ok bro I see you on all these comments, we all miss him admit it lol
@microchrist6122 I don't give a crap what you see lol.doesnt bother me any.
@jerrywilcox9890 troll much? If you don't care that's cool. Some of us appreciated his work on the builds and would love to see him back. You don't have to be a dick considering we weren't asking YOU & YOU ain't got shit to do with it... so crawl back in your hole and stfu. Please & thank you
Oscar would do a great job!
Love that you just screw a huge spoiler onto your lambo
Love the boats but glad car stuff is the best to me 👍🏼
Since you ran bolts through the wing. I would recommend you use what’s called a weld nut for the nuts in the wing, they are great for hallow, foam core carbon.
Looking good fellas keep doing what your doing
You should reach out to Mike Essa re the mounting of the rear wing, they had to mount it to the lower chassis rail as the upper supports were collapsing under the pressure, appreciate you’ve probably already considered this but thought it worth flagging as dont want to see all your hard work explode at 200mph 😂
As somebody in portland, and im sure other people as well would love to see you bring some of your cars out to PIR sometime.
Could you consider making the roof scoop wider. To match the width of the body lines from the boot and along the roof? That might be cool!
This thing is going to look so crazy. Can’t wait for SEMA
Rubber seal groove in the cut of the roof scoop so it seals against water when closed.
It's great to see this coming together 😍
I just started my v12 build 😎
I'm using the OG zonda engine
Put front splitter support rods coming out of the rear bumper bits. Very easy and very cyberpunk. Win-win.
yeah coming together nicely!
I always look forward to your videos!
Looking fabulous!
Oscar ! Oscar ! Oscar ! Yes ask him to come back he’s a huge part of B is for Build !!!
Oh wow, get yourself an 'Arcdroid' to plasma cut metal sheet into whatever shape you need. Fabrats and others use it with great effect 😀
Always like your videos, so lucky you do 1:1 scale what i do in 1:5😅.
When you print a plug, it has to have no flex. So a frame is needed and glued to the part. Then you do the mold and add a frame to it too. So no flex before you do the final fiberglass or carbon part.
Thanks again for video.
Sun and pla are not friends. One day i primed a printed wheel and let it under the sun. Evening the outside wheel was really smaller that the one stayed inside 😂
That scoop would look cool with vortex generators!
I’d make the slat that the roof scoop mounts too out of CF as well that way it looks OE+. That’d be clean AF! 💯🔥💪🏼😎
Bring back oscar
A great way to finish 3d prints is to paint then with UV resin from one of those style printers. Shine them from all sides with a UV flashlight. They'll need a wipe down with isopropyl and to be sanded smooth before finishing with filler primer and glazing putty. But it's a great way to at strength and a solid surface area for finishing. Cosplay and model makers have been using that technique for a few years now to great success. Haven't seen it on car parts, but it would save a lot of time to not have to make molds, and printing at super high resolution
for the extension on the bumper to the boot, use the 3/4 plexiglass with LED behind for reversing lights
A cool idea for the wing would be to have the hangers go through the wing to a mounting plate underneath I think that would look pretty clean. All though I suppose it doesn’t really matter with the theme your going with this time
love this RUclips channel
Duck tail. Car is rad!!!
You can add a stepped down lip on the front portion of the roof scoop that extends inside of the rear section to protect the airflow. I also second the other comment I saw about the Diablo JOTA style scoop inspiration.
You can use plastic weld. Or panel bond. To glue your 3D prints together. It’s way faster. Then the welding process. And turns out cleaner.
Few years ago I converted the big wing on my beetle to swan neck the same way and it held without any problems. I had 6mm aluminium stands and had to cross brace them with one diagonal rod tho...
for the rear bumper, put a couple of small whip antennas on the top of the bumper where it meets the rear valence.
You could make a little lip on the underside of the roof scoop on the piece that will be fixed to the roof. That way no air should escape from the roof scoop.
I bet you could put a little step off on the roof scoop on the roof section with a small piece of weatherstrip so when it's closed it "seals" the cut to prevent external vacuum or an air leak.
God I love this channel for so many years already. The humor, the showing of mistakes and the quality of the builds. Yes I miss Oscar on the channel but that didn’t stop Chris from beeing awesome.
you will NEED Oscar!!!
Looking good!
You're the best buddy keep the good work I really love your videos and I really learn a lot from you so thank you