My guy, you my super hero, I'm from islands and I deal with lots of tubes, your work is the best, you've saved me from my daily struggles, let me know when you make it to Fiji, beers and food on me…🤙🏽…cheehoo
I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos. I just bought a AB dinghy and it’s needing some attention, but still very usable in its current condition. I figured I would use it until it finished falling apart and then I would be ready financially to buy another one. Your videos have pretty much convinced me that that’s further down the line than I thought it would be. I’ve got 2 of the 3 chambers holding air, my next project is to change the valve in the third chamber and then to paint the bottom, it’s chipped on more than one rock but I can’t detect anything more than that and then I plan on applying inflatable bottom paint as it spends all of its time in the water and is kinda a hassle cleaning it about every 2 weeks. I’ve figured out where to get the seat holders and how to put new ones on thanks to your videos. There aren’t any tears or big holes, but it needs a paint job. It’s a hard bottom and a new one is ridiculously expensive and if I can get some more years out of this one, all the better. I’m going to sew up a “tent” for it to help keep the rain out… not for camping, but you never really know.
Thanks, at first I thought this video would not help but you really gave good clear instructions. Thanks a bunch. My husband and I ordered a super cheap blow up kayak...not expecting much but not interested in throwing money away. Read people are repairing them with ease but nobody mentioned a glue we can get close to this rural place. Is this process as necessary on a cheaper vinyl? Not sure at all and certainly not planning to abuse the new toy. Just want a fix in case.
The glue we use is a little overkill for vinyl boats but will definitely bond to it. A 1 part vinyl glue would be best for your type of fabric if repairs were ever needed. If you had a tear, on vinyl boat, you would only need to do an outer patch as those style of boats aren't under high pressure like PVC or Hypalon boats.
Thank you for showing this. It is the first time I see a method to put a patch on the inside from the outside. I guess I have liked you to use gloves there, to protect yourself. But I guess gloves in case of the inner patch had been difficult to use.
Good question, with PVC, you could use either side, glossy or matte finish so you can match the fabric they use on the boat. Some manufacturers will use the matte surface, whereas other will use the glossy surface. With Hypalon, you don't have to sand, just have to scuff up the neoprene exposed side. Also another reason they done pre-sand is the fabric is coated with a protective coating.
thanks for your info on how to do the inside patch. I followed your instructions, Only difference is I used Loctite vinyl, fabric and plastics flexible adhesive. mine was a real job as my cut was near end of pontoon and air inlet, handle and bottom rib were all in the way. We will see, my first patch failed. I used stitch fix, conditions were poor and I was trying to do with pontoon still attached to boat. I brought inside this time and tried to do a better job. My boat is aquos 10.2 boat. A new pontoon will cost me 200.00 so I hope this works. "Thanks for your video.
I picked up a 270 sds wolverine alaska series inflatable raft for free which needs a transom repair, after watching your video i now know i can repair this raft ,any thoughts on this boat ? is this made by someone else ? what type of material is it and what glue do I use ?
Do you take a y precautions to stop the inner sides of the tubes sticking together when you fit the inner patch? I need to do one of these, but I am scared than when I apply pressure to flatten the internal patch down, it may stick to the opposite internal side of the tube.
On this repair I didn't cause I had a bit of gap so the glue wouldn't stick on the other side. But if you are worried about the glue sticking to the other side, you can put some wax paper underneath while doing the glue application if there is room. Or you can take caution while doing the glue application, and I pull on both of the tubes to make sure it didn't stick. You can also put a little air after the patch is done, just enough to separate the two surfaces and make them hover over each other.
@@paulsavenue12yes, it can be sometimes tricky to align it correctly. But as long as you get 95% of the tear supported with the inner patch, the outer patch will take care completely sealing. Inner patch it there just to reduce the forces trying to separate the repair and adds an additional layer strength.
Good question, it was all that was available at that time as Zodiac has had backorders on their glue products. But Stabond is just as good of a product, still on my top 2 choices for glue repair.
Great simple video, I used to have a milpro 4.7m and had plenty of patches back in Australia but never did the inside patch, I live on a tiny island Anajawan Island now and just got given a small PVC rib which has about 40 patches over the one spot hahahaha and am just now removing them so I can redo apparently a large cut so doing the inside patch will be very valuable. I have only been using hypalon glues before and know the techniques are the same but would like to know a good pvc glue if you have time. Like someone from Fiji offered if you're ever in our part of the woods drop in! All free, food, beer and accommodation. Would appreciate some info on a great glue. David and Joannie Anajawan Island Beachfront Resort
I don't know how you can glue the inner patch, and the inner part of the tear, without excess glue sticking the insides together of the boat/tube or whatever it may be. You can't get your hand in there to keep it separated... it seems like just form it like a pyramid and hope for the best.
Not sure what your asking for maintenance?!? Keep the boat UV protected, always touch up anything that is showing signs of peeling, and your boat should last much longer.
Depends on the repair. Pretty hard to keep a inflatable inflated if doing cone repairs. Recommended to reglue area instead of sections. I have a video that i posted a year ago for cone repair.
If you can make nose cone not leak, best to put new one over old and apply seam tape. Anytime you can put a patch on a boat fully inflated it is a better repair(not if it's leaking though)
Depends what type of kit you're looking for... looking for quick repairs while out on adventures or repairs before going out? 2 part glue is always recommended, for any repair kits, but if your out on water adventures, a patch repair kit with the 1 part glue should be sufficient till you get back to do the proper repair. Much harder to use the 2 part glue while the elements are around you.
Hi amigo! I'm trying to repair a factory, 4-way overlay seam that is leaking, on a Zodiac-type inflatable. It appears that at the time of the factory glue-up, each layer of pvc was unable to perfectly conform the the 90 degree edge of the layer below it, thereby forming a tiny 'tunnel' resulting in leaks. I have all four layers separated but before I glue them up, I believe I have two options- bevel the existing 90 degree edges down with a Dremel grinder or, squirt something into the sharp edges of the bottom layers first to help 'taper out' that seam and fill in the 'tunnel' and do the same with each corresponding layer. Think of this compound seam as 4 pieces of bacon, layer on top of each other and each rotated 90 degrees then glued down. Each layer has trouble conforming perfectly to the 90 degree, sharp edge of the PVC below it.. Can you think of something I could squirt in that would b compatible with the PVC, remain flexible, and would bond to the Stabond? ALWAYS much appreciated- Barry
@@gashopperinc On behalf of ALL subscribers, THANK YOU for monitoring your various videos AND for responding to questions from subscribers like me!!! HUGELY appreciated!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for my son to assist me in how to download photos here. This is a project I took on to help HIM. Apparently he's lost interest- sorry to have troubled you- I will go away and down in shame :( Barrynearsedona
@@gashopperinc YOU are the BEST!!! Don't mean to get off subject, but if you EVER have a question with a general trades- electrical, plumbing, framing, concrete etc, I'm no expert but 1,000's of man-hours studying and implementation of best practices, would be honored to repay! Keep up the GREAT work!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST U TUBE out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My guy, you my super hero, I'm from islands and I deal with lots of tubes, your work is the best, you've saved me from my daily struggles, let me know when you make it to Fiji, beers and food on me…🤙🏽…cheehoo
Inner and outer patch, now that's a solid repair !
It sure is.
I’ve been watching a bunch of your videos. I just bought a AB dinghy and it’s needing some attention, but still very usable in its current condition. I figured I would use it until it finished falling apart and then I would be ready financially to buy another one. Your videos have pretty much convinced me that that’s further down the line than I thought it would be. I’ve got 2 of the 3 chambers holding air, my next project is to change the valve in the third chamber and then to paint the bottom, it’s chipped on more than one rock but I can’t detect anything more than that and then I plan on applying inflatable bottom paint as it spends all of its time in the water and is kinda a hassle cleaning it about every 2 weeks. I’ve figured out where to get the seat holders and how to put new ones on thanks to your videos. There aren’t any tears or big holes, but it needs a paint job. It’s a hard bottom and a new one is ridiculously expensive and if I can get some more years out of this one, all the better. I’m going to sew up a “tent” for it to help keep the rain out… not for camping, but you never really know.
I'd never seen an inner patching performed. Thanks for sharing.
Good patch man!
Very helpful, thank you!
Another great video !
Nice repair
Why is it glued to the near side and not to far inner side?
Thanks, at first I thought this video would not help but you really gave good clear instructions. Thanks a bunch. My husband and I ordered a super cheap blow up kayak...not expecting much but not interested in throwing money away. Read people are repairing them with ease but nobody mentioned a glue we can get close to this rural place. Is this process as necessary on a cheaper vinyl? Not sure at all and certainly not planning to abuse the new toy. Just want a fix in case.
The glue we use is a little overkill for vinyl boats but will definitely bond to it. A 1 part vinyl glue would be best for your type of fabric if repairs were ever needed. If you had a tear, on vinyl boat, you would only need to do an outer patch as those style of boats aren't under high pressure like PVC or Hypalon boats.
Thank you for showing this. It is the first time I see a method to put a patch on the inside from the outside. I guess I have liked you to use gloves there, to protect yourself. But I guess gloves in case of the inner patch had been difficult to use.
Why don't patches come pre-sanded?
Good question, with PVC, you could use either side, glossy or matte finish so you can match the fabric they use on the boat. Some manufacturers will use the matte surface, whereas other will use the glossy surface. With Hypalon, you don't have to sand, just have to scuff up the neoprene exposed side. Also another reason they done pre-sand is the fabric is coated with a protective coating.
thanks for your info on how to do the inside patch. I followed your instructions, Only difference is I used Loctite vinyl, fabric and plastics flexible adhesive. mine was a real job as my cut was near end of pontoon and air inlet, handle and bottom rib were all in the way. We will see, my first patch failed. I used stitch fix, conditions were poor and I was trying to do with pontoon still attached to boat. I brought inside this time and tried to do a better job. My boat is aquos 10.2 boat. A new pontoon will cost me 200.00 so I hope this works. "Thanks for your video.
I picked up a 270 sds wolverine alaska series inflatable raft for free which needs a transom repair, after watching your video i now know i can repair this raft ,any thoughts on this boat ? is this made by someone else ? what type of material is it and what glue do I use ?
Do you take a y precautions to stop the inner sides of the tubes sticking together when you fit the inner patch? I need to do one of these, but I am scared than when I apply pressure to flatten the internal patch down, it may stick to the opposite internal side of the tube.
On this repair I didn't cause I had a bit of gap so the glue wouldn't stick on the other side. But if you are worried about the glue sticking to the other side, you can put some wax paper underneath while doing the glue application if there is room. Or you can take caution while doing the glue application, and I pull on both of the tubes to make sure it didn't stick. You can also put a little air after the patch is done, just enough to separate the two surfaces and make them hover over each other.
@@gashopperinc thanks. Makes sense.
I tried using inside patches before and have the problem of the patch holding on to the wrong area
@@paulsavenue12yes, it can be sometimes tricky to align it correctly. But as long as you get 95% of the tear supported with the inner patch, the outer patch will take care completely sealing. Inner patch it there just to reduce the forces trying to separate the repair and adds an additional layer strength.
Would the same stuff/method work on vinyl pool?
I see you don't have an answer, just wonder if the chlorine would degrade the patch and glue.
Just curious why you switched glue from the transom leak using the zodiak bi-component to the Stabond for this repair?
Good question, it was all that was available at that time as Zodiac has had backorders on their glue products. But Stabond is just as good of a product, still on my top 2 choices for glue repair.
@@gashopperinc MUCH appreciated me Amigo!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great simple video, I used to have a milpro 4.7m and had plenty of patches back in Australia but never did the inside patch, I live on a tiny island Anajawan Island now and just got given a small PVC rib which has about 40 patches over the one spot hahahaha and am just now removing them so I can redo apparently a large cut so doing the inside patch will be very valuable. I have only been using hypalon glues before and know the techniques are the same but would like to know a good pvc glue if you have time.
Like someone from Fiji offered if you're ever in our part of the woods drop in! All free, food, beer and accommodation.
Would appreciate some info on a great glue.
David and Joannie
Anajawan Island Beachfront Resort
Thank you. Very much appreciated. If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll be sure to visit. What would you like to know about the glues?
You're my hero 😂
I don't know how you can glue the inner patch, and the inner part of the tear, without excess glue sticking the insides together of the boat/tube or whatever it may be. You can't get your hand in there to keep it separated... it seems like just form it like a pyramid and hope for the best.
Good video! What about the excess glue around the outer patch, do you remove that glue?
Any excess glue is always removed.
Thank you
What kind of glue do you use?👍
Depends on the material, but for PVC Zodiac Z7096, Hypalon/CSM Z7098. We also use Stabond UK-148 or Weaver glue if Zodiac glue isn't available.
Do you apply glue two or three times?
With the Stabond UK-148, only 2 layers is required for patching. When dealing with other brands, 2-3 layers may be required.
@@gashopperinc Thanks. I can see that many professionals are using this product.
may ik wht did u use for sanding/grinding the surface
We use 120 or 180 grit sandpaper. And a course grinding stone for the dremel.
superb i love it by the way which country are you from?
Up in Canada 🇨🇦
@@gashopperinc Are you employed or you run your own company ?
Which do you use to maintain the boat?
Not sure what your asking for maintenance?!? Keep the boat UV protected, always touch up anything that is showing signs of peeling, and your boat should last much longer.
If a guy needs to replace the nose cone, does it need to be deflated, or can you just prep and glue inflated?
Depends on the repair. Pretty hard to keep a inflatable inflated if doing cone repairs. Recommended to reglue area instead of sections. I have a video that i posted a year ago for cone repair.
If you can make nose cone not leak, best to put new one over old and apply seam tape. Anytime you can put a patch on a boat fully inflated it is a better repair(not if it's leaking though)
What type of patch kit should I purchase I have a sea eagle model se9
Depends what type of kit you're looking for... looking for quick repairs while out on adventures or repairs before going out? 2 part glue is always recommended, for any repair kits, but if your out on water adventures, a patch repair kit with the 1 part glue should be sufficient till you get back to do the proper repair. Much harder to use the 2 part glue while the elements are around you.
Just an add on to my last post, we are completely surrounded by coral reefs so indeed a need for patching
Nice video....what´s the type of glue you´re using?
Mainly Zodiac glue, but use others when Zodiac glue is backordered.
You didn't say it it was a PVC or Hypalon, but it looks like PVC. Was it a 2-part glue?
Yes boat was PVC and yes we used a 2 part glue for all our repairs unless specified.
Im using polymarine on a repair. How long does do you wait after second coat of glue just a few minutes?
Not sure with polymarine glue, but Zodiac is 5-10 minutes between layer, Stabond is 5-8 minutes.
How can I buy ?
Everything you need is for sale at our website www.gashopperinc.com for Canada and USA, www.theinflatableboatshop.com for everywhere else.
Hi amigo! I'm trying to repair a factory, 4-way overlay seam that is leaking, on a Zodiac-type inflatable. It appears that at the time of the factory glue-up, each layer of pvc was unable to perfectly conform the the 90 degree edge of the layer below it, thereby forming a tiny 'tunnel' resulting in leaks. I have all four layers separated but before I glue them up, I believe I have two options- bevel the existing 90 degree edges down with a Dremel grinder or, squirt something into the sharp edges of the bottom layers first to help 'taper out' that seam and fill in the 'tunnel' and do the same with each corresponding layer. Think of this compound seam as 4 pieces of bacon, layer on top of each other and each rotated 90 degrees then glued down. Each layer has trouble conforming perfectly to the 90 degree, sharp edge of the PVC below it.. Can you think of something I could squirt in that would b compatible with the PVC, remain flexible, and would bond to the Stabond? ALWAYS much appreciated- Barry
If tou could send me pictures, I may be able to help!!!
@@gashopperinc On behalf of ALL subscribers, THANK YOU for monitoring your various videos AND for responding to questions from subscribers like me!!! HUGELY appreciated!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting for my son to assist me in how to download photos here. This is a project I took on to help HIM. Apparently he's lost interest- sorry to have troubled you- I will go away and down in shame :( Barrynearsedona
No troubles at all. If you decide you want to proceed and do the repairs, send me some pictures and I'll see what o can do to help you.
@@gashopperinc YOU are the BEST!!! Don't mean to get off subject, but if you EVER have a question with a general trades- electrical, plumbing, framing, concrete etc, I'm no expert but 1,000's of man-hours studying and implementation of best practices, would be honored to repay! Keep up the GREAT work!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEST U TUBE out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dam I didn't do 2 layers of glue, round the edges or wait 24hours.... Next time I got this
What awful adverts were attached to this
Always informative! What type of bit are u using on your Dremel? Steel or stone?
Stone bit.
What is the best patch kit for a hypalon boat?