Lugano to Luzern via the Gotthard Railway with SBB InterCity

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  • @keahnig164
    @keahnig164 5 месяцев назад +9

    You don't have to change when taking the boat from Flüelen to Lucerne.
    And the services are often run by historic steamboats!

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +2

      Ok. Now that really sounds like something i must go back and give a try! Thanks for that extra information 👍
      And thanks too for watching 👍

  • @TreasureBlubbi
    @TreasureBlubbi 5 месяцев назад +8

    Actually, there are Sensors in the Doors to the carriage which count How many people entered the car, there are no sensors in the seats to my Knowledge

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Ah thank you for that. Makes sense.
      And thanks for watching too 👍

  • @domin727
    @domin727 5 месяцев назад +5

    Nice Video and a verry scenic route for sure. You are not going over the Gotthard Pass however. Yes, its the Gotthard Mountain Railway but the Pass would actually take you way higher up and can only be passed via the road.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +2

      You are quite right! When i have a minute i may well change the wording... pedantry welcome and indeed encouraged here 😀
      Thanks to for watching 👍

  • @user-ph2sz2oy1k
    @user-ph2sz2oy1k 5 месяцев назад +4

    I hope the views made up for not being able to go though that neat base tunnel! From a swiss perspective, it is a bit embarrasing, having our quasi greatest achievement in infrastrucure just being blocked like that. Accidents happen, I guess.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Yes it is bad news for general transport. But we found a silver lining to the cloud being able to ride such a lovely train through the old tunnel.
      Best wishes to you and thanks for watching 👍

  • @helenwang7229
    @helenwang7229 19 дней назад +1

    Hi Johnny, great vedio, thank you. I am planning to go to Swiss next October, can’t decide which route Bernie express (St moritz to Tirano): or t route Gottahard, anyone give me suggestions ?

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  18 дней назад

      @@helenwang7229 thanks! But as for routes, they are both great and you will have to decide for yourself. Might depend on where else you want to go or something simple like whether you can get a hotel room at a price you want to pay!
      Best of luck and happy travels 👍

  • @Diana-andre2018
    @Diana-andre2018 5 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you Johnny for such a beautiful journey, the scenery was just incredible, Switzerland is an amazing country and the train looked so comfortable, very clean, and with a great area for families with young children. I was also extremely impressed with the manner in which you thanked Mark at the end of the video. 😊

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      It was a great week. So many great memories and i agree it would be a lovely place for family holidays if you all like to get your boots on and see some countryside.
      Mark has been so helpful. Any kind words for him are richly deserved. Nice of you to say though. Thank you ❤️

  • @Elibuwu
    @Elibuwu 5 месяцев назад +3

    As you already note, it's exactly one hour later than if it had gone through the base tunnel. Yes that's for scheduling purposes, but it also basically is what the tunnel saves in time.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for the confirmation of what i guessed. And thanks too for watching 👍

    • @genoobtlp4424
      @genoobtlp4424 5 месяцев назад

      Afaik the hour saved was pretty much the target when planning / building the tunnel

  • @WINGSANDRAILS
    @WINGSANDRAILS 4 месяца назад +1

    I'll put this one in my Interrail route okt 24 schedule!!! Beautiful (Doing Tirano - Lecco - Lugano)

  • @Fan652w
    @Fan652w 4 месяца назад +2

    Thank you Jonny for an extremely well filmed video, extremely well presented. September 2nd is the target date for the resumption of regular Taktfahrplan trains through the base tunnel. So from then on people wanting to travel the 'panoramastrecke' will once again need to catch the SOB operated IR trains which start from Locarno and proceed 'semifast' over the panoramastrecke. At Fluelen these trains connect with the boats which in summer operate hourly the whole length of the lake. Yes, those boats are part of the Taktfahrplan, as are the buses we saw in the bus station at Arth-Goldau! And both boats and buses are free to holders of the fabulous Swiss Travel Pass (as is the Lugano Stazione funicular).

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for coming along and being patient with a Switzerland rookie 😄

  • @geraldwalsh6489
    @geraldwalsh6489 5 месяцев назад +2

    I still think the Mark4 4001 loco used by Irish Rail on Cork Dublin route is one of the best looking in Europe!!

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Not a favourite of mine, but everybody has their own views don't they!
      Thanks so much for watching 👍

  • @vitusna
    @vitusna 5 месяцев назад +2

    Rode the giruno from Zürich to Milano , great train!

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have more often travelled from Zürich to Ticino
    mostly to Locarno on Lago Maggiore which we enjoy
    plus from Locarno you can take the F.A.R.T. to Domodossola
    via the Centivalli on a metre gauge light rail service
    From Domodossola you go to Brig in Switzerland
    then we returned to our base in Ticino.
    The rise to Göschenen - which connects to Andermatt
    on a rack railway to the side of the station
    is fantastic.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for that. Yes, I did look at that route, but there's only so much you can do in a shower time. However it is definitely in the list for a future trip!
      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner 5 месяцев назад

      @@JohnnyHooverTravels
      We have been "doing" Switzerland for
      fifteen years plus
      and we tend to do this out of season
      and so once did the Bernina Express
      in thick fog!
      So you got the tanoy saying
      in FOUR languages
      about the wonderful sights
      and not being able to see anything.
      I just started to laugh as it was surreal!

  • @matjordan4848
    @matjordan4848 5 месяцев назад +2

    Another good one Jonny H. Amazing scenery, as you'd expect (apart from in the tunnel obviously). As always I'm so envious of Swiss rail infrastructure and those wonderfully clean trains. So very civilised

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks Mat. That train was particularly good amongst a host of good trains. Of course, nothing beats the stopper between Sheffield and Barnsley...

    • @matjordan4848
      @matjordan4848 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyHooverTravels 🤣well all human life is there as they say. And you have to do it on a Friday or Saturday night for the full effect.

  • @LukaPOfficiel
    @LukaPOfficiel Месяц назад +1

    I’m french and a swiss friend of mine had this great idea of going together from
    Basel to Lugano ( he did this trip many times ) with the intercity 21 so that I can discover the gotthard pass while the base tunnel is still closed ( opening in September ), I am looking forward to discover this line, it’s going to be a very nice day since we are both railway enthusiasts too 😅

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  Месяц назад +1

      @@LukaPOfficiel it was great! The morning and evening runs are completely different as the light has completely changed. Enjoy your trip, and thanks for watching mine! 👍

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe 5 месяцев назад +1

    3:34 Actually the Lugano Station is from 1874 - the opening of the line to Chiasso.
    Fun fact; most Stations have dedicated platforms for trains in the same direction , like this you don’t have to wonder where your train is leaving…
    11:51 Ambri-Piotta is one of the most famous Ice-hockey teams in Switzerland - in a village…(?) !
    The Ritom Funicular was built in 1917 for the construction of the Ritom Dam for the production of electricity for the Gotthard Railway’s electrification 1919-21.
    16:07 Erstfeld Depot is now owned by SBB Historic and holds a bunch of old, functioning electric locomotives.
    17:11 The Boats are on a round trip with a lot of stops and lake crossings. Take the time for the beautiful trip…
    20:05 The Rotsee is one of the three sites of the World Rowing Cup and the only fix in the series.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for all of that! Nice to clear up it was 1874 and i would happily go to a game at Ambri-Piotta!
      And thank you too for watching 👍

  • @Timstravels01
    @Timstravels01 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a spectacular journey. Incredible engineering too. Personally I'd prefer the route through the pass over the tunnel every time.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Well I suppose it depends if you need to get where you are going!
      But yes, for us travel fans, then if it is all about the journey, then being in a dark tunnel isn't really what we sign up for!
      Best wishes to you 👍

  • @ampersand.
    @ampersand. 5 месяцев назад +1

    What a wonderful trip :) Wish I could do that train journey - when I went there I drove and you can`t spend time gazing at those fantastic views! Lovely Swiss vids, thanks, took me back to the 80s.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, the great benefit of the train is all the window gazing. I wouldn't swap for a car...
      As always, thanks for watching 👍

  • @horsehollerer
    @horsehollerer 5 месяцев назад +1

    Magnificent Johnny. I haven't ruled out a return to Switzerland later this year or next, and if so I may do this trip. Great writing and camerawork as always. Cheers!

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Switzerland is a big draw. I have another Interrail in my inbox... but there are so many other places too!
      And thank you as always for the kind words 👍

  • @katashworth41
    @katashworth41 5 месяцев назад +1

    I don’t bother to call it X, I still use Twitter. The only acceptable use of a deadname (unless I’m getting annoyed at misspellings of mine).

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      It was a bad rebrand for sure.
      Thanks for watching 👍

  • @MrJimheeren
    @MrJimheeren 5 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful route, took it last February all the way to Milan, sadly no snow in the mountains, global warming is a bitch. The trains are really nice as well (especially the diner car)

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes it sure was lovely! And yes it is a bit worrying that the winter has been so warm...
      Thanks for watching 👍

  • @kevindennehy7105
    @kevindennehy7105 5 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful journey, took it many times for work.
    Insane that there is absolutely no snow there in March.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      It was very warm all over Switzerland whilst we were there. A bit worrying indeed...
      Thanks for watching too 👍

  • @sandiandgregh
    @sandiandgregh 5 месяцев назад +1

    Gorgeous scenery. And, hey, there’s no such thing as “too far” when it comes to ice cream and a beautiful lakeshore.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      I think you may be quite right about that...
      Thanks for coming back for another scoop of Johnny Hoover travels 😄

  • @phronsiekeys
    @phronsiekeys 5 месяцев назад +2

    Will there still be the option to do the pass rather than the base tunnel after it resumes normal operation? Stunning!! I would rather spend an hour than ride in a tunnel.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +3

      Yes indeed. Those Sudostbahn copper coloured Stadler FLIRTs will still be taking the old route. And as we have seen, they too are lovely trains.

    • @smarius17
      @smarius17 5 месяцев назад +2

      In addition to the Südostbahn service, there are also almost-daily panoramic trains running from Lucerne to Lugano and vice-versa. They're called the "Gotthard Panorama Express"

    • @aoilpe
      @aoilpe 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@smarius17
      With a little up-charge for the panoramic 1.class car…

    • @genoobtlp4424
      @genoobtlp4424 5 месяцев назад

      @@aoilpenot if you’re on interrail

  • @peterdnreynolds777
    @peterdnreynolds777 5 месяцев назад +1

    Brilliant video and beautiful scenery along the way, would live to see it when it's all covered in snow .
    Was going to ask what the fares are like or are you travelling on a rail pass?
    Hope all is well, take care

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Point to point fares if booking about a month in advance, even on a UK based website like Trainline aren't any worse (often better) than the UK. But i would advise looking at Interrail or the Swiss travel pass or indeed e regional travel passes if you thought of going. There are decent deals to be had. With Black Friday discount, my Interrail cost me £31 a day first class.
      Thanks for watching another 👍

  • @WINGSANDRAILS
    @WINGSANDRAILS 4 месяца назад +1

    I think Switzerland is one of the most beautiful countries for train travel. Going there by ICE st class next week from Aachen to Geneva!

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  4 месяца назад +1

      It sure is. Have a great trip! I look forward to your videos 👍

    • @WINGSANDRAILS
      @WINGSANDRAILS 4 месяца назад

      @@JohnnyHooverTravels Thank you!

  • @trailwayt9H337
    @trailwayt9H337 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mr. John
    Your videos and your efforts are absolutely beautiful ❤️

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, you are very kind. And thank you so much for watching 👍

  • @Pepijn-l5k
    @Pepijn-l5k 5 месяцев назад +1

    Another great vlog! You can go by bot from fluelen to luzern it takes 2 hours and its direct.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks. One i should do in the future then!
      And thanks for watching too 👍

  • @buzzukfiftythree
    @buzzukfiftythree 5 месяцев назад +1

    Enjoyable video, thanks Johnny. We’re off to Switzerland for a week at the end of August. We adore the country and my other half lived and worked in Zurich for 2 years in the 1990s. We used the Giruno trains on our last trip and, in our opinion, they’re about the best international trains around these days. If only the UK had such an amazing integrated transport system as the Swiss, who realise the importance of public transport to a nation’s economy. Several lake steamers on Lake Lucerne do make the trip from Fluelen to Lucerne each day. Takes about 2.5 hours in total and no change is usually necessary. It’s a great excursion. If you’re just staying in Switzerland it’s usually worth getting a Swiss travel pass. Not cheap, but it enables one to travel on the trains, tram, local buses, post buses and the lake steamers. Some cable cars and mountain railways give a 50% discount for pass holders. If, like us, the trip is mainly about exploring the country by public transport then it’s just so convenient and worth the cost, which in our experience you can recover quite quickly over 3 or 4 days of travelling compared to paying the normal fares. You can, alternatively, get a cheaper pass which gives a 50% discount on public transport.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for all that. Yes, i will discuss the STP in my final Switzerland video on Friday. As you say it is comparatively expensive, but if it fits your needs it can definitely be a great way to get to all the places the Interrail ticket fails to go.
      Best wishes to you and thanks for watching 👍

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w 4 месяца назад

      buzzukfiftythree is certainly right about the Swiss Travel Pass. It gives you access to the whole of Switzerland's amazing public transport. Interrail is largely confined to trains.

  • @paulgibsonphotography
    @paulgibsonphotography 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great Video johnny

  • @andrewyoung749
    @andrewyoung749 5 месяцев назад +2

    You don't need to change boat from Fluelen to Lucerne. that's actually the lake's 'mainline' and there is a fair few runs per day including about 4/5 in the height of summer operated by the 5 paddle steamers on the lake.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Great news. Added to the long list! Sounds like a great thing to do 😀
      Thanks so much for the information and for watching 👍

    • @genoobtlp4424
      @genoobtlp4424 5 месяцев назад

      I recently found a video going into the machinery of one of those paddle steamers

    • @andrewyoung749
      @andrewyoung749 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyHooverTravels they're pretty swish. a swiss pass ticket is valid on the lake boats as well just fyi, interail i wouldnt know.

    • @andrewyoung749
      @andrewyoung749 5 месяцев назад

      @@genoobtlp4424 switzerland has about 13 operating paddle steamers (lucerne and geneva have 5 each), 2 converts to diesel electric and one screw steamer. not bad for a land locked country with no maritime muscle. been to ch about 5 times and managed to bag all except one of the geneva ones owing to crew shortages lol, typical.

    • @genoobtlp4424
      @genoobtlp4424 5 месяцев назад

      @@andrewyoung749 don’t forget the ones on lake Zurich and the screw steamer to battery conversion on Greifensee

  • @melvynbuckton6881
    @melvynbuckton6881 4 месяца назад +1

    There is a boat every hour each way lucern fluelen. Its a fabulous trip passing many mountains etc. I did it lucern to lugano pickin

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  4 месяца назад +1

      Yes, I've added that boat trip to my now extensive list of things to do in Switzerland!

    • @melvynbuckton6881
      @melvynbuckton6881 4 месяца назад

      I think apart from the regular boat.There are special cruise boats as well

  • @MikeS29
    @MikeS29 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yay! Been looking forward to this one!

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      You are welcome. It was a great trip with great company 👍

  • @baumgrt
    @baumgrt 5 месяцев назад +1

    14:18 The church of Wassen is somewhat famous in Switzerland because on this route, you can see it a total of three times, each time from a different perspective

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for that extra information. It certainly is a very unusual stretch of line. So pleased i was able to ride it, and in such a lovely train too.
      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @melvynbuckton6881
      @melvynbuckton6881 4 месяца назад +1

      And above then same level then below

  • @benedictdesilva6677
    @benedictdesilva6677 5 месяцев назад +1

    1:58 If one's travelling on a rail pass that's valid for that particular day, there's no need to pay again for the funicular. The Lugano funicular, being part of the general public transport network, is covered by such valid passes-as is the case for public transport in all Swiss cities.
    Anyway the act of buying a ticket did provide you with some technical footage and was a donation to its upkeep. Thanks 😉.
    7:32 You're spot on about the primacy of the principle of clock face scheduling. The journey could be completed markedly faster, but is deliberately adjusted.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Haha we didn't check if Interrail covered the funicular, but it wasn't too expensive.
      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @benedictdesilva6677
      @benedictdesilva6677 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JohnnyHooverTravels Indeed, it would be worthwhile to check if Interail has exactly the same scope of validity as for the domestic _general_ rail passes. If so one also has free access to urban public transport including postal bus services-including most lake steamer routes as well.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@benedictdesilva6677 Interrail does not give any local transport (bus or metro) or for most streamers except the BLS ones around Interlaken. Still, it is a good deal!

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w 4 месяца назад

      The best Pass for tourists visiting Switzerland is the Swiss Travel Pass. It has the same validity as the Swiss General Abonnement.

  • @melvynbuckton6881
    @melvynbuckton6881 4 месяца назад +1

    You stay on the same boat lucerne to fluelen

  • @jochemjonker3362
    @jochemjonker3362 5 месяцев назад +1

    For sure,a beautiful route by train.But the high snowy mountains,is not my favorit area in Switzerland to be.I prefer more das Berner Oberland.Take the train from Thun to Burgdorf and look at the landscape there.

    • @AlexanderOnFire
      @AlexanderOnFire 5 месяцев назад +1

      The mountains in the Berner Oberland are higher than any of the mountains seen in the videos here. The landscape from Thun to Burgdorf are not part of the Berner Oberland. The Alps ends at Thun.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for that. I shall add that to my long Swiss list. This was my first trip to the country and i wanted to travel fairly widely and get to experience the whole country, but it was inevitably a snapshot.
      Thanks for watching and for the ideas 👍

    • @jochemjonker3362
      @jochemjonker3362 5 месяцев назад

      @@AlexanderOnFire i highly doubt that the mountains are higher in Berneroberland as the mountains in this video.In my teens,i was on holiday in Großhochstetten, which is at 745 m above sea level.At this time of the year,there isn't any snow there on top of the mountains there,but on top of the mountains in the Alps,there is.

    • @smarius17
      @smarius17 5 месяцев назад +1

      @jochemjonker3362 The other guy is right, the mountains in Berner Oberland are indeed higher. The region between Thun and Burgdorf is called "Emmental", the hills there are infact not higher, though still incredibly beautiful ;)

    • @AlexanderOnFire
      @AlexanderOnFire 5 месяцев назад

      @@jochemjonker3362 Grosshöchstetten in is in the Berner Mitteland. Berner Oberland is completely located in the Alps. Everything South from Thun is Oberland/Alps and everything North Mittelland.

  • @transportlegendshorts
    @transportlegendshorts 5 месяцев назад +1

    I tell ya, the only thing I know about Luzern is rivet games tsw Luzern-Sursee Route *that was a terrible Route lemme just say*

    • @keahnig164
      @keahnig164 5 месяцев назад

      Not in real life.

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      Well it is lovely in real life!
      Thanks for watching 👍

  • @generalkawasaki9485
    @generalkawasaki9485 5 месяцев назад +1

    Italian part of Switzerland? In italy? I never knew that. Is that similar to how Italy also has the southern half of Austrian Tyrol within their nation?

    • @JohnnyHooverTravels
      @JohnnyHooverTravels  5 месяцев назад

      No idea actually. European borders have been drawn and redrawn so many times in history!
      It was so very different though. Each part of Switzerland has such a very different ambience. I suppose due to the topography the different people will have found it difficult to travel between... until of course they got railways!!
      Thanks for watching 👍

    • @smarius17
      @smarius17 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's merely the Italian speaking part of Switzerland, it's not connected to Italy in any form. The reason why it looks a lot like Italy, is because the mountains in the north are a much more significant border in terms of culture than the political border in the south. The way the villages and landscapes look is much more determined by local geography and climate. Also, viewed historically, the whole region north of Milano was part of the canton of Uri for quite some time back in I-don't-recall-when, which could have led to an even more shared and thus similar culture

    • @smarius17
      @smarius17 5 месяцев назад

      So it's rather different to South Tyrol, which was Austrian originally, but then got conquered by Italy and has been through a process of italianization (if that's a word). Allthough it has regained some autonomy in more recent years, it is still very much part of Italy.

    • @aoilpe
      @aoilpe 5 месяцев назад +2

      After the battle of Marignano in 1515 the territory of Tessin/ Ticino stayed under Confederate surveillance until the creation of the Swiss Republic in 1798 and the creation of the modern Helvetic Confederacy after 1803. Before 1515 it was part of the Duchy of Milano.
      The Swiss began the conquest of the southern territory in 1403…with the goal of conquering an access to the Mediterranean Sea.

    • @geraldwalsh6489
      @geraldwalsh6489 5 месяцев назад

      Its crazy that within Europe,we have three different power socket types....Swiss,European and UK Irish