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Jason’s rant was perfect. His point about it being sometimes harder to appeal to millions as opposed to appealing to a smaller audience of critical thinkers is so true. Simple and catchy does not mean bad, as different music serves different purposes
Yeah I agree, that was so appropriate, and since they mentioned the "intricacies of music" which arguably is a natural characteristic of classical compositions, the way Blacklabel producers composed this piece is their way of intricate. Everybody's reaction was really fun to watch.
I'd thought the same thing and when I realized Jason was going to say that I freaked out--I feel like it's something reactors/reviewers/critics rarely keep in mind. While intricacy or complexity is not bad per se, it's not always good either. A song like this is trying to do something very different than a classical piece like La Campanella, and they both do what they are meant to do very well.
@SonderDAze X I disagree. It's definitely HARDER to appeal to the mass audience because just like what he said, even if you did the most complicated thing, and people don't even realize it, what's the point?
@SonderDAze X if it's easier to appeal to a mass audience, why do big name artists often fail to put out another huge hit? why do so many fairly well known artists with all the resources in the world so often fail to really hit it big? creating something that cements itself into the public consciousness is incredibly difficult. sometimes artists get lucky and there is a degree of "right time right place" involved, but to consistently achieve that level of popular appeal is not a simple task.
8:19 jason really explained the difference of using classical music to favor normal people who listen to music in general between the people who really have interest in classical music
True, Blackpink succeeded in catering to their target audience with how the song was portrayed, whereas Feel My Rhythm in comparison, was really good musically, but kinda failed catering to people who doesn’t really listen to classical music, like myself 😅 kinda sucks that I only realized how good Feel My Rhythm was AFTER watching their reaction
i definitely agree with kevin and jason that this isn't a song that's meant to be analyzed in the same way that y'all are usually able to dig into songs on this channel. it's classic rap, the sample sets a vibe and a steady beat for the rappers to play with different cadences over top. i feel like yg has been struggling with giving the girls their flowers and just letting the talent shine through, so this is really, really refreshing for me. i know this isn't a place to go on a tangent about mismanagement, i just wanna say that it's my favorite track from blackpink in *years* because it feels like artistic growth instead of spectacle and the pared back production is definitely a factor in that.
Jason should be forbbiden from ever leaving this channel, cause his thoughts are always a delight to listen to. He has a beautiful mind, and I feel that he and Brian make the perfect pair. The way he correlated Paganini's image and the way Blackpink is viewed today was really interesting.
At first I was also a bit disappointed, because not so long ago we had Feel my rhythm. But then I realized that they just made it true to YG label, which is more about swag and hip-hop than about music theory intricacies. There was a time when the songs in rapsody genre were popular: they were exactly a short looped piece from classics and a rap over it. Makes sense that they've chosen this approach. I love the comment about comparison to Paganini! Didn't think about it at all, but I remember some people compared him to popular musicians: the way the pieces were more understandable to ordinary people, the way he toured. Thank you for the analysis! You guys become better and better. And the editing adds a lot of fun and clarity.
Shut Down is a tooootally different thing than Feel my rhythm - and sadly that some ppl always tend to COMPARE to the the 1st example of something they heard which is kind of WRONG, cause other things can be quite different even if using the same or simmilar idea. If it's about comparing with other k-pop songs made with sampling classical pieces, it would be Cherry Bullet - Hands Up which sampled Fur Elise, the closest one, most simmilar in terms of vibe and choice of piece and mixing. Now> 1) Shut Down is supposed to be Dancy / Catchy / Repeat ON song, with the vibe ''I wanna jump to it all day and feel badass". For such songs u can't use many sections of one calssical piece, if sampling, since the vibe will be lost and song can become draggy losing it's purpose. 2) it's HIP HOP based song, while Feel my rhythm was opposite. Shut Down just made most amazing thing - bringing together very well blended Hip Hop vibe, Glamorous fire on of a classical piece like La Campanellea, and k-pop feel which totally could be felt here (and probably because> 1) composers/producers were Korean artists only, 2) Korean lyrics were as much important as English parts). 3) IDEA - this time idea was using just a motif, and even - part of a motif, actually! But how to use it to not be boring? yea loop. but not enough. So what's done here? It is the right choice of cut in the motif which will be used, well blended with key change for a half tone to point out macabre savage feel - what concept of song and lyrics suggests. Not only that the cut was done at the right time, but after putting loop it kinda drives you wanting to hear it more and more time - why? you EXPECT RESOLUTIONN - which comes finally before chorus. 4) rhythm + meter! - yeah they slowed it down a bit to fit lyrics, and it did win the vibe. 6/8 is hard actually to make into a pop song and especially into a upbeat badass catchy dansy and darky song. Slowing down 6/8 It made the motif even more stand out crossing with hip-hop korean style tune. 5) ACCENTS! - this is now rlly interesting. Cause actually well choice of words from Korean and English made it like lyrics flowing with the beat, it felt like it came of with those strong accents on every 3rd point of 6/8. And words chosen have similarity with ends and starts - it is like blend of sound of words in both languages. 6) use of sound effects layers etc - done without overdoing whole sound image. Even highest tones in instrumental werent killing ears. Violin was on point cause the sound depicts like recorded LIVE sound. 7) interesting work on background sound - despite motif repetition all the time, you can hear use of various violin techniques (pizzicato effect, ricoshe, etc) 8) image of popularity but badass and devilishnes - Paganini was popular star at his era, and he was loved as much as he was despised and cursed. He was made for entertainment and touring, much more maybe than Liszt - as one popular star back then too, in field of piano. Blackpink kinda relates to it. Also / when we say classical music we actually forget that it was popular music before / only after romanticism started to be divided into high class art music cutting ties with popular music. 9) I have much more to say about Shut Down and it's unique quality, but i rlly don't have time, maybe later I'll edit comment since this was written in hurry ... have a nice day~ and enjoy SHUT DOWn
100% agree what you said about YG label. I too understand why they choose a looped piece. The song makes more sense. Even the non vocal part really pops out.
YESSSS, YG always like to keep it clean and straight-forward with their instrumentals. That's just their brand. SM is the most experimental one, and that is their musical branding. I think Shut Down being a little different to their other tracks is the statement itself. And that's why, in a musical standpoint, it'd really look like there is really nothing much to it. It really is simple compared to the other titles and they actually did not have a switch-up moment in here, which they are known for. Heck, they don't even have a bombastic outro on this one.
@oceana311 mediocre?! What😬 a long time ygstan I disagree. Look at the history of yg music. There are many different genres and mixed genres. YG doesn't play by the rule. They make music that caters to the style YG artists have. To say this is mediocre based on taste is sad to hear.
When I first heard it, I first thought about your channel!! I personally love the song and the way they actually incorporated it with most of the song and not just using it in the opening. But I always felt it was short but nevertheless I loved this comeback it's new for them with the sense of familiarity. I just wish there was a bridge and they use other parts of La Campanella for it.
But what I see between Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down is they use their "personality" To the musician, red velvet with the flawless, beauty, and softness, and BP just like paganini, with "like devil", assertive, and powerful. Both are cool and I love it
Very true! However, them 2 tracks are at different levels tho lol, FMR just hit so hard but so elegantly at the same time, it was extremely well packaged and the girls' jobs at the studio for recording were absolutely fantastic. And this is thing, RV's music was never to be only flawless, and soft or something but also kinda 'dark' (hiddenly), and it was the other way around, even their 'dark side' or 'badass side' have got that elegance and charming. They have done all those things delicately, they just do it so differently :)i mean, it's Red Velvet. BP is a bit more about commercial and towarding to the public, the way they made their music was just the same over the years (both the company and the girls), anyways, their songs always make ppl hum and dance to very easily, which is kinda amazing. Hope that BP can learn more, try more and and do more in the future, they have enough fame rn lol.
It kinda reminds me of Hands Up! by Cherry Bullet, It's that one small part which is repeated over and over and that's super catchy. I really enjoyed how chill it is but it also hits hard at the same time. I love Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down for different reasons but in my opinion they are both absolute hits.
FINALLY someone mentions this! I love that song but at the same time I don't listen to classical music enough to dislike the fact that they repeat the sample over and over. Same goes for hands up. Thank you for saying this!!
if we are comparing these two songs, that sampling a classical song (feel my rhythm and shutdown, love both of them btw), feel the rhythm is more like building the song around bach's, they really understood the score, and let every part of it shines through the song. whereas shutdown is more like let the paganini score accompany and highlight the song itself. they just do the song in different way, according to their group's sound and identity
I’m glad that everyone wasn’t a music snob. Dude with the flowered shirt was spot on. The Paganini sample was just that, a sample. It served its purpose to give a different flair, a different sound and is appealing to millions. .
Yeah it's really a bummer that they only selected a few seconds of the paganini's piece. But i also feel like it would be hard to use the whole piece or like majority of it
@@banana-xz2nw red velvet has a two style theme like Blackpink but instead Blackpink's is STRICTLY concept wise (black being their badass side pink being their pretty side) versus Red Velvet is majorly about their music's KEY difference (Red being their pop side and velvet going into more mature songs). It's not accurate to say Blackpink did it worse than Red Velvet (I'm aware you didn't say that) because they're so different musically. Rap music in general use consistent beats that repeat themselves overwhelmingly with slight beat changes, contrary to Feel My Rhythm having this mature and soft in nature type of song, its not rap after rap, just some really cool vocal song. They embody such different styles of music. I loved both takes.
11:58 I get goosebumps! He said it really well. I was also researching why would they used Paganini’s music style. Like it just fits them because they go for the darker, rap and hip hop style! 🙌 And also BP’s story’s just peculiarly similar to that of Paganini.
@SonderDAze X they're the voldemort of kpop. idk why other fandoms just collectively hate them, for being marketed the way they are, the 'ig models' and not being self-produced group, the long hiatus and short comeback, ah and also the big three privilege. It's supposedly blinks' problem but somehow other ppl had a problem with it too, I say they're just too obsessed and giving closeted blink.
@@amygdala3659 you spilled! every fandoms inside the kpop world being a “music experts” when it comes to BP’s music i mean it’s fine to criticise but where’s that energy for other groups? why is it only when it comes to BP? u can really tell that they just hate the girls.
@@persephonevids Because blackpink is sadly held to a higher standard than other (girl) groups. They (haters) want them to be perfect, but also not too perfect. They want BP to be musical geniuses and participants in producing their music, while knowing YG is heavily misogynistic towards their female artists AND knowing that BP does participate in some of the lyrics. They want blackpink to change things up, but when they do it's not good enough (see what happened to Pink Venom). They want things to be kept the same, but also not TOO similar or else they will call it (blank) 2.0 again. They want more songs from blackpink even though they will just hate on them anyway. They want more diversity in their songs, but also called Born Pink "non-cohesive". Whatever blackpink does, they can't win. At this point their problem isn't blackpinks music, but blackpink and the success they have.
I did not expect the Feel My Rhythm mention. Thank you for appreciating FMR. Also, I kinda feel that FMR and Shut Down are both classically sampled but they appeal differently. Spotify mix played FMR after Shut Down and can I just say, the experience is so good.
i really like what kevin said about the classical sampling in shut down vs. feel my rhythm! they chose completely different genres, structures, and approaches to incorporating the pieces. shut down is a deliberately minimalist/stripped down track, and in that sense it uses the shorter sample very smartly with the trap/hip hop sounds(it feels very slick and clean). feel my rhythm is such a polar opposite in that they used a much larger part of the bach to include different harmonies and sections and it was generally a more maximalist approach. i don’t think either is necessarily better than the other!
One think i admire about YG music is their instrumental always has a balance frequencies that make it pleasant to hear. Some pop songs are just to noisy to hear but yg always make it smooth
not sure what made me realize it in this episode specifically but as someone who's been watching the channel for years now, it's always really cool to see reactors that start out as freshmen/sophomores in the channel develop their musical vocabulary over the seasons and over their uni years. maybe it can be seen in the technical terms they use as well, but i notice it most with how they contextualize their takes on the song in the broader culture of consuming and appreciating music. even though it's just been a little over a season since most of these reactors started, their articulacy in what music means to them shines through sm now!! < 3
For those who don't know, Echae Kang has a YT channel where she does covers videos. AAANNNNDDDD she released a song that I really LOVE (and it's not the only one~~), and it's called "My Sweet Lunatic" This song is soo freaking good. It's a little bit ethereal
Ok wait I didn’t know Echae Kang was the one who did the violin. I’ve known her since 2016 from her RUclips and I loved her work. This is so cool to discover that she recorded something for kpop.
Thanks for "reminding me " she has a utube channel. I discovered her thru her work w/Dear Jazz Orchestra when they collab'd w/SWJA and Shinae An. I'm still going thru that stuff and Echae en Route? songs,
@@bobansak2583 I didn’t go through other people but I first got into her through in SoundCloud with the song Get into and just us I think that’s what it was called and after I just listened to her MV songs.
Nice! Was waiting for this reaction :) I did expect most of you to not like the fact that it's a very short sample overall, it's probably not as satisfying especially for classical musicians. But I did appreciate that some of you also argued that it makes more sense, particularly as a hip-hop heavy track that's trying to appeal to a wider audience, to keep it simpler as that can audibly just sound better. As Jason pointed out, it is true that often times being complex and overly-creative can sometimes be easier than making a limited but appealing and catchy song.
Let me just give out my appreciation to the editor! It was easier to understand what they are saying by throwing the parts of the song that they are explaining-- at least from a point of view of someone who doesn't have any exposure to classical music.
I didn't know there was a sample, but like Jason(?) said, it's catchy and it's hype. That's enough for the masses as we're not all that cultured about music history to care about how much a piece was sampled and all that.
BLACKPINK is really thinking about their audience, that's why it's a good choice to release this song. It is my most favourite track in BORN PINK up to now.
@@aliensprstr9595 Nah. I get why they released Pink Venom first, because with a group like Blackpink comes lots of hate and criticism simply because they had a long hiatus. They need a song to direct the hate first so Shut Down will be a peaceful comeback. I simply think that is smart. It's the same thing with HYLT and Lovesick Girls
I really like watching like this reaction. The professional reactor they really reacted honestly and yiu can learn also what they said. And appreciates every detail of the MV
The musical insight of this people is amazing I really enjoyed their reaction but their explanation I liked that part more. When they said the story of Paganini selling his soul to the devil cause contemporary musicians of him were jealous of his talent, everything clicked the lyrics, the music, the gestures the pinks were doing all was perfect. You know what I also realized during this video professional musicians including classical and comercial, dancers, rappers, hip hop artists, no matter the gender they all recognized the talent, training and charms of the girls and their team. Keep showing Blackpink music to this amazing people 😄
ive been waiting for this reaction ever since the MV dropped. i was going crazy seeing a bunch of comments hyping up shut down as the best classical music - kpop fusion. no disrespect to the commenters but it's always good to see a thoughtful analysis from people who know what they're talking about
in contrast, i thought it was the best classical music-k hip hop fusion, because they used classical music to amplify their rap verses. from a hip hop point of view, the repeated sample brought out the best in the verses
@ no name I don't understand why the opinions of others drive you crazy, about something you don't think is so. It is good to understand the different perspectives, because for other classical music critics it is also one of the best fusions and we must always have the openness to love music and respect the tastes of others, because if for others it is the best it is their opinion, and we are nobody to make your opinion less.
@@beixval6619 maybe im just unlucky to have stumbled upon the toxic part of the fandom but ive seen many who put down other groups and refuse to listen to any critiques on this song which is why i was waiting for reacttothek to make a video because the cast gives their objective opinions on the song without being blinded by bias. if you truly love the song then by all means keep enjoying it
Ever since Feel My Rhythm happened the bar was just set high with how the producers of that song sampled the classical piece in such a beautiful and smart way so hearing Shut Down and hearing them just use the first half of it and loop it over and over again throughout the entire song was definitely underwhelming. Nevertheless!! I still enjoyed Shut Down and I still bop to it. At this point you just can’t help but compare any songs with a sample of a classical piece to Feel My Rhythm because that song was just pure genius and lovely. Love both groups and I love both songs. They did the samples differently but hey that’s fine!
Yes, feel my rhythm, shutdown, and another one by Brave Girls during Queendom 2, they remix their songs "Red Sun" with Canon in D, if i remember correctly, and it turns out to be good too. I really like when kpop doing this kind of thing ❤️✨
@@leandrebonsaint153 yeah, but if you know the message the pinks are trying to convey, with their music videos recycling some shots and same vibes with their previous songs (because of some antis saying their MVs are similar with one another), you'll get just why they went with that type of musical structure.
Love the reactions (I learn a LOT every damn time) and how deep the reactors discussed each aspect of the song. Even discussing it as a context of a pop/hiphop song and the group's popularity was enlightening. Topnotch cohesive editing, BTW!
Okay now I wanna see your opinion on tsv’s parody diss track (technically Paganini’s diss track) and that so many blinks came to leave hate comments on that video 🤣
I'm coming back to this video after going to blackpink's concert a few weeks ago and i just wanna say, hearing Shut Down performed with a live band just adds a whole different flavor to the song entirely. I would imagine if they had a live violinist to play as well it would be a mindblowing experience. Nevertheless, the live band added so much to this song that the studio version didn't quite give. The musicians mentioned it feeling stagnant and repetitive and the live band rectified that and it felt so much more dynamic. Also i agree so much that this part of the piece being sampled is for the purpose of fitting into blackpink's vibe. It's pop and hip hop and supposed to be danceable and hype. I get that classical musicians would feel that sampling such a tiny part of the piece is kind of sad because it didn't do justice to the original, but again, that's not their goal. The goal isn't to shine a light on Paganini, it's to shine a light on blackpink and i do say they succeeded in that. Anyway, i rambled on longer than i intended. Sorry!!! But as always i enjoyed the reaction very much! Thanks ❤
16:17 you can tell that she's does not really like the whole sampling but if you really think deeply the whole song was actually not to reinforce towards the classical music but to interact and shows what audiences those artists are targeting. Maybe for classical musicians this song might be underwhelming but that's the group label and the company hip hop and RAP flows
As someone who always liked classical music and grew up with hip hop it's basically my cultures soundtrack the classical samples are some of the best songs to me I do get that it's upsetting to a violinist but I always love marrying to completely different worlds to make art now add Korean music on top it's another layer. I'll agree they could of had a bridge but I also don't think it would have matched the vibe of the song. This song is all about what BlackPink is saying to doubters and the production succeeded in conveying that.
The different perspectives are very good, but for me in most reviews I feel that someone specialized in both areas, classical music and old hip hop, is needed, because with the perspective of the two elements this song makes more sense and the reason Why was it composed this way?
Jason' remarks were on point. Brian's, as well. I love how much everybody here knows their stuff. This is a great channel because you know your stuff and because of the people you hang out with for these videos.
There are a few words from them that hit hard like that of Jason mentioning about music that appeals to millions and appeals to few analysts, and that of Kevin mentioning that the point is to let the rappers do their things on top of the sampling. But the most epic words I agree the most here was the last one - RTTK: Do you know how they do it? GUY: No. If I do then I'll be working with them.
sampling records is not about length of sample....In old school hiphop some beat makers will only take one loop off a record to sample....YG is staying true to its hiphop core. it wont be a sample if you take a whole piece of the music...it might sound like a remix. Teddy being a perfectionist hired a violinist to play the sample of La Campanella and looped it.
I listen to jazz often but not so much classical. I think it's great when they sample that sound and those instruments in other genres. I feel like it opens up people's minds to to listening to jazz & classic.
Blackpink actually made younger people and people in general curious about classical music especially Paganini. Even though they only used a "fragment of a sentence", the song did its job. 1. Diss their haters, 2. It's catchy and hype and 3. People got curious! So no. The song is good as it is.
Lol are you even in twitter? The younger people keep on dragging down the already dead man who's in the 6th feet under the ground because they want to own the 2 bars of the piece. So no, it is not a better song if they let their fans disrespect the legends.
I love both Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down! I love RV and BP, truly. And I feel that they made use of their samples to convey the message and feel of their songs pretty successfully! FMR had a more airy, pretty, poppy feel to it. They were elegant and the focus was on the music. Whereas Shut Down is more hip-hop, which focuses more on repetitive beats, esp when accompanied by rap. It's a diss track, after all, so they wanted you to listen to the lyrics. I feel that if they used more of the piece, it would have distracted from the actual lyrics. I know I would've been too engrossed in noticing the different areas the violin went to, instead of actually listening to what they were saying 😂 so I think the repetitiveness served it's purpose to get into your head but not distract from the raps.
100 agree on your opinion 👍 whenever I want to study or sleep I used to listen FMR and when I go outside while in public transportation or dance time I always listen shut down lol, both using classical sample but with different genre and I love it.
This the most interesting reaction because it also gives the viewers knowledge in aspects that normal people see just by watching and listening to the Music video. More power to this channel!
Jory's reaction at 3:55 was me the first time I heard this song honestly 😂 "THEY FINALLY USED THE END OF THE PHRASE" But yeah Jason's rant is the point of all this music being made: its a product, and they want the general public to like it, not specifically classical musicians or knoledgeable musicians or whatever, it has to be catchy, cool, danceable and likeable to at least half of the world dammit 😅 but yeah, i was WAITING SO HARD FOR THIS REACTION!! love it
Disclaimer I don't know much about music at all. But when I first heard the strings I actually wondered if they were sampling a haegeum, a traditional Korean bow and string instrument. My mind went there because they had opened Pink Venom with Jisoo playing the gayageum. So I thought maybe that was a bit of a theme they were going with for the album. Obviously I was way off, but I think it would be cool to reference traditional Korean instruments in Kpop (not sure if that's been done or not).
There's been a lot of kpop songs with traditional korean instruments! Especially more recently. Although, I don't know if I've heard the haegeum in any. Like you mentioned, the opening of pink venom. But also Ateez - The Real Stray Kids - Thunderous ToppDogg - Arario BTS - Idol Vixx - Shangri-La MonstaX - Follow ONEUS - Lit Probably way more that I can't remember right now!
08:36 I've been saying this since Destiny's Child era but he summer it up. That's why Rihanna Britney Beyonce Taylor are who they are. They have the talent but they also have the skills to simplify their talents to reach a bigger audience.
In the first few seconds I was also very annoyed by how they did not finish the phrase and kept repeating the same part, but not even halfway in it clicked for me and I have to say it was more clever than I initially thought. Certainly an interesting way to sample a classical piece and one of their most interesting tracks to date. Also 💯what Jason said
I've been a musician many years. Since I have discovered BLACKPINK I have not stop smiling. It's not all about the music with BLACKPINK. They are just the best people. They bring so much joy to so many people they are blessed beyond.😃
I feel like Shut Down and Feel My Rhythm songs shouldnt be really comparable other than the fact that they both had classical samples. Feel My Rhythm was supposed to be an elegant, classical concept; more similar to the piece they sampled. Shut Down on the other hand is a classic hiphop track. the first few notes in Paganini's piece had great flow that rappers could easily follow the beat, like a lot of rappers do when they sample a repeating part of a specific song. the concepts of rv and bp are polar opposites so rv making use of a lot of their sample makes sense, whereas bp only needed a strong, yet fluid rhythm to follow, so them using majority of paganini's piece wouldn't really work
They both used elegant pieces so thats the point. One used the full piece for a the whole song while blackpink reused the beginning until the end of the song.
literally WHY your videos ALWAYS makes me emotional?? like, i cry????? “paganini 6/8 1/1” have 0 idea what you guys are talking about but it’s beautiful. wish i could do this too
I've been looking forward to this channel's reaction since the song dropped. Brian's theory about WHY they included Paganini was tremendously insightful and I appreciated it so much. It actually made me surprised no one took a deep dive on WHY this song only used a very brief snippet, repeated over and over, but his theory inspired me to add a little more to my own. A lot of the hate directed towards Blackpink in fandoms (that isn't akgae and antis) is about "the Teddy Formula." Basically, bitter assholes who have no success in music believe they are the authoritative source on what makes music good. They argue that Teddy uses the same structure and techniques with almost every song he produces and, boy, are they mad about it! Using just a piece of La Campanella fits with the rest of the theme of clapping back with callbacks and sampling. It's basically Teddy and BP saying, "You hate us for doing stuff that has a consistent sound, structure, and style? Here's a sample of a two hundred year old song, literally just TWO measures, repeated for three minutes, and it's GOING TO STAND OUT and it's going to get hundreds of millions of views and it will probably win some awards. Hate on that while we count our money."
Teddy is a genius composer and producer. He knows how to play with sounds and know that hip hop is the core of YGent. Jason is right. Shutdown sounds different with a classical sample yet sounds like bp aswell and made to appeal to public. Slowly BP is changing their sound but "catchy" should stay on their songs. Thats why BP is so popular nowadays
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Jason’s rant was perfect. His point about it being sometimes harder to appeal to millions as opposed to appealing to a smaller audience of critical thinkers is so true. Simple and catchy does not mean bad, as different music serves different purposes
Yeah I agree, that was so appropriate, and since they mentioned the "intricacies of music" which arguably is a natural characteristic of classical compositions, the way Blacklabel producers composed this piece is their way of intricate. Everybody's reaction was really fun to watch.
I'd thought the same thing and when I realized Jason was going to say that I freaked out--I feel like it's something reactors/reviewers/critics rarely keep in mind. While intricacy or complexity is not bad per se, it's not always good either. A song like this is trying to do something very different than a classical piece like La Campanella, and they both do what they are meant to do very well.
@SonderDAze X I disagree. It's definitely HARDER to appeal to the mass audience because just like what he said, even if you did the most complicated thing, and people don't even realize it, what's the point?
put on point.. yep
@SonderDAze X if it's easier to appeal to a mass audience, why do big name artists often fail to put out another huge hit? why do so many fairly well known artists with all the resources in the world so often fail to really hit it big? creating something that cements itself into the public consciousness is incredibly difficult. sometimes artists get lucky and there is a degree of "right time right place" involved, but to consistently achieve that level of popular appeal is not a simple task.
8:19 jason really explained the difference of using classical music to favor normal people who listen to music in general between the people who really have interest in classical music
Yeah - he is on point 👏🏻
True, Blackpink succeeded in catering to their target audience with how the song was portrayed, whereas Feel My Rhythm in comparison, was really good musically, but kinda failed catering to people who doesn’t really listen to classical music, like myself 😅 kinda sucks that I only realized how good Feel My Rhythm was AFTER watching their reaction
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Yeah he was sooo on point! He respects the creative freedom from other producers & criticise professionally
Exactly!! Go off Jason!!
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Definitely my favorite part when JORY starts playing Paganini sample
I kind of fell in love with him when he did that
@@stellaxcadentex umm... Gurl you have to be in Line.. Lmao 🤭
Same! I want him to do a full verison
@@himaririku9254 ummm.... 🙄 Ok cool...
samme 😂😂 he cracked his knuckle then casually grab his violin 😂 so freaking hot
crying at the reaction at 2:34 😭 “oh wtf” can’t stop replaying that lmao
@@himaririku9254 bruh u cringe asf
The moment Jory casually started playing the original and then the sample ahhh I LOVE SEEING TALENTED PEOPLE!!!
2:40 that reaction came from the bottom of his heart, lol
My favorite part of this reaction video hahaha omg
that was my exact reaction
Whats the meaning of the reaction tho?
what did he say?? , i cant hear 😅
@@Heyimlilith it just caught him off guard bcs the host didn't tell him that bp is sampling classical violin piece (he is a violinist) in the music.
i definitely agree with kevin and jason that this isn't a song that's meant to be analyzed in the same way that y'all are usually able to dig into songs on this channel. it's classic rap, the sample sets a vibe and a steady beat for the rappers to play with different cadences over top. i feel like yg has been struggling with giving the girls their flowers and just letting the talent shine through, so this is really, really refreshing for me. i know this isn't a place to go on a tangent about mismanagement, i just wanna say that it's my favorite track from blackpink in *years* because it feels like artistic growth instead of spectacle and the pared back production is definitely a factor in that.
Yup
@@himaririku9254??
@@Namjoonsbald_head that person is troll
Jason should be forbbiden from ever leaving this channel, cause his thoughts are always a delight to listen to. He has a beautiful mind, and I feel that he and Brian make the perfect pair. The way he correlated Paganini's image and the way Blackpink is viewed today was really interesting.
At first I was also a bit disappointed, because not so long ago we had Feel my rhythm. But then I realized that they just made it true to YG label, which is more about swag and hip-hop than about music theory intricacies. There was a time when the songs in rapsody genre were popular: they were exactly a short looped piece from classics and a rap over it. Makes sense that they've chosen this approach.
I love the comment about comparison to Paganini! Didn't think about it at all, but I remember some people compared him to popular musicians: the way the pieces were more understandable to ordinary people, the way he toured.
Thank you for the analysis! You guys become better and better. And the editing adds a lot of fun and clarity.
Shut Down is a tooootally different thing than Feel my rhythm - and sadly that some ppl always tend to COMPARE to the the 1st example of something they heard which is kind of WRONG, cause other things can be quite different even if using the same or simmilar idea. If it's about comparing with other k-pop songs made with sampling classical pieces, it would be Cherry Bullet - Hands Up which sampled Fur Elise, the closest one, most simmilar in terms of vibe and choice of piece and mixing.
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1) Shut Down is supposed to be Dancy / Catchy / Repeat ON song, with the vibe ''I wanna jump to it all day and feel badass". For such songs u can't use many sections of one calssical piece, if sampling, since the vibe will be lost and song can become draggy losing it's purpose.
2) it's HIP HOP based song, while Feel my rhythm was opposite. Shut Down just made most amazing thing - bringing together very well blended Hip Hop vibe, Glamorous fire on of a classical piece like La Campanellea, and k-pop feel which totally could be felt here (and probably because> 1) composers/producers were Korean artists only, 2) Korean lyrics were as much important as English parts).
3) IDEA - this time idea was using just a motif, and even - part of a motif, actually! But how to use it to not be boring? yea loop. but not enough. So what's done here? It is the right choice of cut in the motif which will be used, well blended with key change for a half tone to point out macabre savage feel - what concept of song and lyrics suggests. Not only that the cut was done at the right time, but after putting loop it kinda drives you wanting to hear it more and more time - why? you EXPECT RESOLUTIONN - which comes finally before chorus.
4) rhythm + meter! - yeah they slowed it down a bit to fit lyrics, and it did win the vibe. 6/8 is hard actually to make into a pop song and especially into a upbeat badass catchy dansy and darky song. Slowing down 6/8 It made the motif even more stand out crossing with hip-hop korean style tune.
5) ACCENTS! - this is now rlly interesting. Cause actually well choice of words from Korean and English made it like lyrics flowing with the beat, it felt like it came of with those strong accents on every 3rd point of 6/8. And words chosen have similarity with ends and starts - it is like blend of sound of words in both languages.
6) use of sound effects layers etc - done without overdoing whole sound image. Even highest tones in instrumental werent killing ears. Violin was on point cause the sound depicts like recorded LIVE sound.
7) interesting work on background sound - despite motif repetition all the time, you can hear use of various violin techniques (pizzicato effect, ricoshe, etc)
8) image of popularity but badass and devilishnes - Paganini was popular star at his era, and he was loved as much as he was despised and cursed. He was made for entertainment and touring, much more maybe than Liszt - as one popular star back then too, in field of piano. Blackpink kinda relates to it. Also / when we say classical music we actually forget that it was popular music before / only after romanticism started to be divided into high class art music cutting ties with popular music.
9) I have much more to say about Shut Down and it's unique quality, but i rlly don't have time, maybe later I'll edit comment since this was written in hurry ...
have a nice day~ and enjoy SHUT DOWn
100% agree what you said about YG label. I too understand why they choose a looped piece. The song makes more sense.
Even the non vocal part really pops out.
the difference is old yg songs were actually good, this is extremely mediocre even for yg
YESSSS, YG always like to keep it clean and straight-forward with their instrumentals. That's just their brand. SM is the most experimental one, and that is their musical branding.
I think Shut Down being a little different to their other tracks is the statement itself. And that's why, in a musical standpoint, it'd really look like there is really nothing much to it. It really is simple compared to the other titles and they actually did not have a switch-up moment in here, which they are known for. Heck, they don't even have a bombastic outro on this one.
@oceana311 mediocre?! What😬 a long time ygstan I disagree. Look at the history of yg music. There are many different genres and mixed genres. YG doesn't play by the rule. They make music that caters to the style YG artists have. To say this is mediocre based on taste is sad to hear.
When I first heard it, I first thought about your channel!! I personally love the song and the way they actually incorporated it with most of the song and not just using it in the opening. But I always felt it was short but nevertheless I loved this comeback it's new for them with the sense of familiarity. I just wish there was a bridge and they use other parts of La Campanella for it.
Same I also thought about their channel the first time I heard it
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SAMEEEE! i kept on checking my notification and their channel XD
Same
Same and always checking thier yt channel.. waiting for this reaction.
PAGA-NAE-NAE *whips aggressively*
I DIED IN THAT MOMENT
Their ability to set aside their personal opinions to analyse musically is phenomenal. Such a proffessional group of people, love them
I love when Jory pulls out the violin and plays in the original key vs. the song
But what I see between Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down is they use their "personality" To the musician, red velvet with the flawless, beauty, and softness, and BP just like paganini, with "like devil", assertive, and powerful. Both are cool and I love it
And they both do art appropriation in their videos. It’s very cool.
Very true! However, them 2 tracks are at different levels tho lol, FMR just hit so hard but so elegantly at the same time, it was extremely well packaged and the girls' jobs at the studio for recording were absolutely fantastic. And this is thing, RV's music was never to be only flawless, and soft or something but also kinda 'dark' (hiddenly), and it was the other way around, even their 'dark side' or 'badass side' have got that elegance and charming. They have done all those things delicately, they just do it so differently :)i mean, it's Red Velvet. BP is a bit more about commercial and towarding to the public, the way they made their music was just the same over the years (both the company and the girls), anyways, their songs always make ppl hum and dance to very easily, which is kinda amazing. Hope that BP can learn more, try more and and do more in the future, they have enough fame rn lol.
@@avani5907 References. I feel we had enough of throwing the A word at any single sht now.
@@avani5907 girlie learned the word appropriation and run with it🤡
@@sensorbitaccount5222 art appropriation is the actual term for it though
It kinda reminds me of Hands Up! by Cherry Bullet, It's that one small part which is repeated over and over and that's super catchy. I really enjoyed how chill it is but it also hits hard at the same time. I love Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down for different reasons but in my opinion they are both absolute hits.
FINALLY someone mentions this! I love that song but at the same time I don't listen to classical music enough to dislike the fact that they repeat the sample over and over. Same goes for hands up. Thank you for saying this!!
if we are comparing these two songs, that sampling a classical song (feel my rhythm and shutdown, love both of them btw), feel the rhythm is more like building the song around bach's, they really understood the score, and let every part of it shines through the song. whereas shutdown is more like let the paganini score accompany and highlight the song itself. they just do the song in different way, according to their group's sound and identity
I’m glad that everyone wasn’t a music snob. Dude with the flowered shirt was spot on. The Paganini sample was just that, a sample. It served its purpose to give a different flair, a different sound and is appealing to millions. .
Yeah it's really a bummer that they only selected a few seconds of the paganini's piece. But i also feel like it would be hard to use the whole piece or like majority of it
red velvet did it really well tho
@@banana-xz2nw they're genre is way too different to compare
@@banana-xz2nw two different pieces
@@banana-xz2nw red velvet has a two style theme like Blackpink but instead Blackpink's is STRICTLY concept wise (black being their badass side pink being their pretty side) versus Red Velvet is majorly about their music's KEY difference (Red being their pop side and velvet going into more mature songs). It's not accurate to say Blackpink did it worse than Red Velvet (I'm aware you didn't say that) because they're so different musically. Rap music in general use consistent beats that repeat themselves overwhelmingly with slight beat changes, contrary to Feel My Rhythm having this mature and soft in nature type of song, its not rap after rap, just some really cool vocal song. They embody such different styles of music. I loved both takes.
@@banana-xz2nw cus the genre they were going for fits the piece
11:58 I get goosebumps! He said it really well. I was also researching why would they used Paganini’s music style. Like it just fits them because they go for the darker, rap and hip hop style! 🙌 And also BP’s story’s just peculiarly similar to that of Paganini.
he's so smart huhu
@SonderDAze X they're the voldemort of kpop. idk why other fandoms just collectively hate them, for being marketed the way they are, the 'ig models' and not being self-produced group, the long hiatus and short comeback, ah and also the big three privilege. It's supposedly blinks' problem but somehow other ppl had a problem with it too, I say they're just too obsessed and giving closeted blink.
@@amygdala3659 SLAYY, facts were spoken. People might hate your comment too because they hate Blackpink, but keep spreading the message!
@@amygdala3659 you spilled! every fandoms inside the kpop world being a “music experts” when it comes to BP’s music i mean it’s fine to criticise but where’s that energy for other groups? why is it only when it comes to BP? u can really tell that they just hate the girls.
@@persephonevids Because blackpink is sadly held to a higher standard than other (girl) groups.
They (haters) want them to be perfect, but also not too perfect.
They want BP to be musical geniuses and participants in producing their music, while knowing YG is heavily misogynistic towards their female artists AND knowing that BP does participate in some of the lyrics.
They want blackpink to change things up, but when they do it's not good enough (see what happened to Pink Venom).
They want things to be kept the same, but also not TOO similar or else they will call it (blank) 2.0 again.
They want more songs from blackpink even though they will just hate on them anyway.
They want more diversity in their songs, but also called Born Pink "non-cohesive".
Whatever blackpink does, they can't win. At this point their problem isn't blackpinks music, but blackpink and the success they have.
I did not expect the Feel My Rhythm mention. Thank you for appreciating FMR. Also, I kinda feel that FMR and Shut Down are both classically sampled but they appeal differently. Spotify mix played FMR after Shut Down and can I just say, the experience is so good.
i really like what kevin said about the classical sampling in shut down vs. feel my rhythm! they chose completely different genres, structures, and approaches to incorporating the pieces. shut down is a deliberately minimalist/stripped down track, and in that sense it uses the shorter sample very smartly with the trap/hip hop sounds(it feels very slick and clean). feel my rhythm is such a polar opposite in that they used a much larger part of the bach to include different harmonies and sections and it was generally a more maximalist approach. i don’t think either is necessarily better than the other!
One thing I love about blackpink production is that it’s so clear and clean
RV and BP sampling classical music is such a vibe. I love it :D
One think i admire about YG music is their instrumental always has a balance frequencies that make it pleasant to hear. Some pop songs are just to noisy to hear but yg always make it smooth
not sure what made me realize it in this episode specifically but as someone who's been watching the channel for years now, it's always really cool to see reactors that start out as freshmen/sophomores in the channel develop their musical vocabulary over the seasons and over their uni years. maybe it can be seen in the technical terms they use as well, but i notice it most with how they contextualize their takes on the song in the broader culture of consuming and appreciating music. even though it's just been a little over a season since most of these reactors started, their articulacy in what music means to them shines through sm now!! < 3
For those who don't know, Echae Kang has a YT channel where she does covers videos.
AAANNNNDDDD she released a song that I really LOVE (and it's not the only one~~), and it's called "My Sweet Lunatic"
This song is soo freaking good. It's a little bit ethereal
Ok wait I didn’t know Echae Kang was the one who did the violin. I’ve known her since 2016 from her RUclips and I loved her work. This is so cool to discover that she recorded something for kpop.
Thanks for "reminding me " she has a utube channel. I discovered her thru her work w/Dear Jazz Orchestra when they collab'd w/SWJA and Shinae An. I'm still going thru that stuff and Echae en Route? songs,
@@bobansak2583 I didn’t go through other people but I first got into her through in SoundCloud with the song Get into and just us I think that’s what it was called and after I just listened to her MV songs.
@@sarahkhairi928 👌
Nice! Was waiting for this reaction :)
I did expect most of you to not like the fact that it's a very short sample overall, it's probably not as satisfying especially for classical musicians. But I did appreciate that some of you also argued that it makes more sense, particularly as a hip-hop heavy track that's trying to appeal to a wider audience, to keep it simpler as that can audibly just sound better. As Jason pointed out, it is true that often times being complex and overly-creative can sometimes be easier than making a limited but appealing and catchy song.
Jory literally died a little when he realized what the sample was and the editing only made me laugh harder 😂
After the MV was released. I was actually waiting for this reaction. Thank you for this.
Let me just give out my appreciation to the editor! It was easier to understand what they are saying by throwing the parts of the song that they are explaining-- at least from a point of view of someone who doesn't have any exposure to classical music.
loooooove how theyre so respectful & professional throughout the reactions. Stay classy everyone 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I didn't know there was a sample, but like Jason(?) said, it's catchy and it's hype. That's enough for the masses as we're not all that cultured about music history to care about how much a piece was sampled and all that.
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BLACKPINK is really thinking about their audience, that's why it's a good choice to release this song. It is my most favourite track in BORN PINK up to now.
SHOULD'VE BEEN RELEASED FIRST INSTEAD OF PINK VENOM
@@aliensprstr9595 Nah. I get why they released Pink Venom first, because with a group like Blackpink comes lots of hate and criticism simply because they had a long hiatus. They need a song to direct the hate first so Shut Down will be a peaceful comeback. I simply think that is smart. It's the same thing with HYLT and Lovesick Girls
@@naufalnim Yup
Mine is tally
@@aliensprstr9595 it's literally a pre release
I really like watching like this reaction. The professional reactor they really reacted honestly and yiu can learn also what they said. And appreciates every detail of the MV
wow didnt expect to have a reaction on this so soon!
The musical insight of this people is amazing I really enjoyed their reaction but their explanation I liked that part more.
When they said the story of Paganini selling his soul to the devil cause contemporary musicians of him were jealous of his talent, everything clicked the lyrics, the music, the gestures the pinks were doing all was perfect.
You know what I also realized during this video professional musicians including classical and comercial, dancers, rappers, hip hop artists, no matter the gender they all recognized the talent, training and charms of the girls and their team.
Keep showing Blackpink music to this amazing people 😄
ive been waiting for this reaction ever since the MV dropped. i was going crazy seeing a bunch of comments hyping up shut down as the best classical music - kpop fusion. no disrespect to the commenters but it's always good to see a thoughtful analysis from people who know what they're talking about
in contrast, i thought it was the best classical music-k hip hop fusion, because they used classical music to amplify their rap verses. from a hip hop point of view, the repeated sample brought out the best in the verses
@ no name I don't understand why the opinions of others drive you crazy, about something you don't think is so. It is good to understand the different perspectives, because for other classical music critics it is also one of the best fusions and we must always have the openness to love music and respect the tastes of others, because if for others it is the best it is their opinion, and we are nobody to make your opinion less.
For me is the best classical music - kpop fusion song. What’s wrong with accepting other people opinions?
@@beixval6619 maybe im just unlucky to have stumbled upon the toxic part of the fandom but ive seen many who put down other groups and refuse to listen to any critiques on this song which is why i was waiting for reacttothek to make a video because the cast gives their objective opinions on the song without being blinded by bias. if you truly love the song then by all means keep enjoying it
I know. I love this song but the overhyping and the over defensive comments from the commenters made me sick of the song, unfortunately
Ever since Feel My Rhythm happened the bar was just set high with how the producers of that song sampled the classical piece in such a beautiful and smart way so hearing Shut Down and hearing them just use the first half of it and loop it over and over again throughout the entire song was definitely underwhelming.
Nevertheless!! I still enjoyed Shut Down and I still bop to it. At this point you just can’t help but compare any songs with a sample of a classical piece to Feel My Rhythm because that song was just pure genius and lovely.
Love both groups and I love both songs. They did the samples differently but hey that’s fine!
yeah. Feel my rhythm really set the bar high. I too like shutdown but feel my rhythm is just amazing!
don't compare cause they have different theme and YGE is a hip-hop rap base 🤦♀️
Yes, feel my rhythm, shutdown, and another one by Brave Girls during Queendom 2, they remix their songs "Red Sun" with Canon in D, if i remember correctly, and it turns out to be good too. I really like when kpop doing this kind of thing ❤️✨
but I feel shut down is more pleasing to listen who doesn't even know about classical music. More general public will love it.
@@leandrebonsaint153 yeah, but if you know the message the pinks are trying to convey, with their music videos recycling some shots and same vibes with their previous songs (because of some antis saying their MVs are similar with one another), you'll get just why they went with that type of musical structure.
Owen: hey can you try making a bridge?
Kevin: sure (casually makes one)
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Never fails to blow my mind how knowledgeable you guys are
2:38 the beauty of uncensored, personal, visceral reactions.
Love the reactions (I learn a LOT every damn time) and how deep the reactors discussed each aspect of the song. Even discussing it as a context of a pop/hiphop song and the group's popularity was enlightening.
Topnotch cohesive editing, BTW!
Okay now I wanna see your opinion on tsv’s parody diss track (technically Paganini’s diss track) and that so many blinks came to leave hate comments on that video 🤣
I actually love this song so much. Like classical music has always been appealing (was a violinist) so this is super catchy
I'm coming back to this video after going to blackpink's concert a few weeks ago and i just wanna say, hearing Shut Down performed with a live band just adds a whole different flavor to the song entirely. I would imagine if they had a live violinist to play as well it would be a mindblowing experience.
Nevertheless, the live band added so much to this song that the studio version didn't quite give. The musicians mentioned it feeling stagnant and repetitive and the live band rectified that and it felt so much more dynamic.
Also i agree so much that this part of the piece being sampled is for the purpose of fitting into blackpink's vibe. It's pop and hip hop and supposed to be danceable and hype. I get that classical musicians would feel that sampling such a tiny part of the piece is kind of sad because it didn't do justice to the original, but again, that's not their goal. The goal isn't to shine a light on Paganini, it's to shine a light on blackpink and i do say they succeeded in that.
Anyway, i rambled on longer than i intended. Sorry!!! But as always i enjoyed the reaction very much! Thanks ❤
16:17 you can tell that she's does not really like the whole sampling but if you really think deeply the whole song was actually not to reinforce towards the classical music but to interact and shows what audiences those artists are targeting. Maybe for classical musicians this song might be underwhelming but that's the group label and the company hip hop and RAP flows
Any TwoSetters here after the Paganini/BP controversy to see other classical musicians' POV? :))
Got recommended this a year later 😭
5:40 GOD i love musicians the way jory effortlessly played the original and the sample
As someone who always liked classical music and grew up with hip hop it's basically my cultures soundtrack the classical samples are some of the best songs to me I do get that it's upsetting to a violinist but I always love marrying to completely different worlds to make art now add Korean music on top it's another layer. I'll agree they could of had a bridge but I also don't think it would have matched the vibe of the song. This song is all about what BlackPink is saying to doubters and the production succeeded in conveying that.
I love how they are so respectful throughout the reactions.
The moment I saw this video, I immediately thought that it'd be nice if ReacttotheK would react to TwoSet Violin's "Sell Out" or "Duh Duh Duh Dum".
love the group insight! i don’t know that much about classical music but it’s interesting hearing the group thoughts
The different perspectives are very good, but for me in most reviews I feel that someone specialized in both areas, classical music and old hip hop, is needed, because with the perspective of the two elements this song makes more sense and the reason Why was it composed this way?
Jason' remarks were on point. Brian's, as well.
I love how much everybody here knows their stuff. This is a great channel because you know your stuff and because of the people you hang out with for these videos.
I've been waiting for this 😭😭😭
I liked how jory slowly dissipated in surprise when the intro started playing
There are a few words from them that hit hard like that of Jason mentioning about music that appeals to millions and appeals to few analysts, and that of Kevin mentioning that the point is to let the rappers do their things on top of the sampling. But the most epic words I agree the most here was the last one -
RTTK: Do you know how they do it?
GUY: No. If I do then I'll be working with them.
sampling records is not about length of sample....In old school hiphop some beat makers will only take one loop off a record to sample....YG is staying true to its hiphop core. it wont be a sample if you take a whole piece of the music...it might sound like a remix. Teddy being a perfectionist hired a violinist to play the sample of La Campanella and looped it.
THIS IS RIGHT 👍
I've been waiting for thisssss 😭😭
I listen to jazz often but not so much classical. I think it's great when they sample that sound and those instruments in other genres. I feel like it opens up people's minds to to listening to jazz & classic.
Blackpink actually made younger people and people in general curious about classical music especially Paganini. Even though they only used a "fragment of a sentence", the song did its job. 1. Diss their haters, 2. It's catchy and hype and 3. People got curious!
So no. The song is good as it is.
Lol are you even in twitter? The younger people keep on dragging down the already dead man who's in the 6th feet under the ground because they want to own the 2 bars of the piece. So no, it is not a better song if they let their fans disrespect the legends.
really love it when music explained and analized by experts🥰
16:09
🎶Hey Paganini, Don't you be a meanie 🎶 XD
the way he just snatched his violin and he already knows what the keys are screams ✨ *pro* ✨
I love both Feel My Rhythm and Shut Down! I love RV and BP, truly. And I feel that they made use of their samples to convey the message and feel of their songs pretty successfully!
FMR had a more airy, pretty, poppy feel to it. They were elegant and the focus was on the music. Whereas Shut Down is more hip-hop, which focuses more on repetitive beats, esp when accompanied by rap. It's a diss track, after all, so they wanted you to listen to the lyrics.
I feel that if they used more of the piece, it would have distracted from the actual lyrics. I know I would've been too engrossed in noticing the different areas the violin went to, instead of actually listening to what they were saying 😂 so I think the repetitiveness served it's purpose to get into your head but not distract from the raps.
100 agree on your opinion 👍 whenever I want to study or sleep I used to listen FMR and when I go outside while in public transportation or dance time I always listen shut down lol, both using classical sample but with different genre and I love it.
It's the "PAGANINI in your AREAAA!!!" - for me! 😆
the violinist putting on chapstick not knowing what’s gonna happen is so funny lmao
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS REACTION 🎉
This the most interesting reaction because it also gives the viewers knowledge in aspects that normal people see just by watching and listening to the Music video. More power to this channel!
i love shut down, it's such a killer mood.
Will: no i do not know what piece this is
Jory: *cracks knuckles* 🎻
Love their reactions and how you clearly show the full phrase and the sample 😭 hilarious
Jory's reaction at 3:55 was me the first time I heard this song honestly 😂 "THEY FINALLY USED THE END OF THE PHRASE"
But yeah Jason's rant is the point of all this music being made: its a product, and they want the general public to like it, not specifically classical musicians or knoledgeable musicians or whatever, it has to be catchy, cool, danceable and likeable to at least half of the world dammit 😅 but yeah, i was WAITING SO HARD FOR THIS REACTION!! love it
음악의 자유로움과 조예는 한국도 무지하게 높아서 작곡한 사람도 클래식을 잘 알고 곡 분위기에 맞게 변형해서 잘 사용한것이지. 한국도 세계적인 클래식 연주자들이 너무 많아서 일반 대중도 파가니니 정도는 관심있는 사람들이면 다 익숙하지
finally a reaction video! i've been waiting for it since BP's first released the MV. really good reviews and opinions about it 👌
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE I HEARD THE TEASER YOU ARE DOING GOD'S WORK
Disclaimer I don't know much about music at all. But when I first heard the strings I actually wondered if they were sampling a haegeum, a traditional Korean bow and string instrument. My mind went there because they had opened Pink Venom with Jisoo playing the gayageum. So I thought maybe that was a bit of a theme they were going with for the album. Obviously I was way off, but I think it would be cool to reference traditional Korean instruments in Kpop (not sure if that's been done or not).
There's been a lot of kpop songs with traditional korean instruments! Especially more recently. Although, I don't know if I've heard the haegeum in any.
Like you mentioned, the opening of pink venom. But also
Ateez - The Real
Stray Kids - Thunderous
ToppDogg - Arario
BTS - Idol
Vixx - Shangri-La
MonstaX - Follow
ONEUS - Lit
Probably way more that I can't remember right now!
@@nyamnyam7926 Ah! Thank you for a list, I need to go back and check them all out! 🤓
08:36 I've been saying this since Destiny's Child era but he summer it up. That's why Rihanna Britney Beyonce Taylor are who they are. They have the talent but they also have the skills to simplify their talents to reach a bigger audience.
Now I am kind a curious on their reaction on the Twosets' version of SOLD OUT.
That WFT reaction and PAGANINI IN YOUR AREA was exactly my reaction when this song got lost on my playlist.
In the first few seconds I was also very annoyed by how they did not finish the phrase and kept repeating the same part, but not even halfway in it clicked for me and I have to say it was more clever than I initially thought. Certainly an interesting way to sample a classical piece and one of their most interesting tracks to date. Also 💯what Jason said
Their market is different, it's not mainly focus to classicals.. it's much better than feel my rhythm for sure
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I feel like Shut Down and Feel My Rhythm songs shouldnt be really comparable other than the fact that they both had classical samples. Feel My Rhythm was supposed to be an elegant, classical concept; more similar to the piece they sampled. Shut Down on the other hand is a classic hiphop track. the first few notes in Paganini's piece had great flow that rappers could easily follow the beat, like a lot of rappers do when they sample a repeating part of a specific song. the concepts of rv and bp are polar opposites so rv making use of a lot of their sample makes sense, whereas bp only needed a strong, yet fluid rhythm to follow, so them using majority of paganini's piece wouldn't really work
They both used elegant pieces so thats the point. One used the full piece for a the whole song while blackpink reused the beginning until the end of the song.
Plus shutdown music production and mastering is so clean, unlike feel my rhythm that many frequencies are masking with each other
@@m4l228
You literally missed the whole point of the comment
@@minjoo1398you do know you talking nonsense aren't you?
literally WHY your videos ALWAYS makes me emotional?? like, i cry????? “paganini 6/8 1/1” have 0 idea what you guys are talking about but it’s beautiful. wish i could do this too
8:19 he really spit facts.
Love how man just pulled out the violin from his space pocket.
I wonder what these people would have to say about TwoSet’s parody version
its music guys, its for entertainment, chill.
I am waiting for your reaction to this MV..
This song 🔥🔥🔥❤
Crazy how they can just play it by hearing it once the bp ver such a beast
I've been looking forward to this channel's reaction since the song dropped.
Brian's theory about WHY they included Paganini was tremendously insightful and I appreciated it so much. It actually made me surprised no one took a deep dive on WHY this song only used a very brief snippet, repeated over and over, but his theory inspired me to add a little more to my own.
A lot of the hate directed towards Blackpink in fandoms (that isn't akgae and antis) is about "the Teddy Formula."
Basically, bitter assholes who have no success in music believe they are the authoritative source on what makes music good. They argue that Teddy uses the same structure and techniques with almost every song he produces and, boy, are they mad about it!
Using just a piece of La Campanella fits with the rest of the theme of clapping back with callbacks and sampling. It's basically Teddy and BP saying, "You hate us for doing stuff that has a consistent sound, structure, and style? Here's a sample of a two hundred year old song, literally just TWO measures, repeated for three minutes, and it's GOING TO STAND OUT and it's going to get hundreds of millions of views and it will probably win some awards. Hate on that while we count our money."
Oh yes!
It kinda sounds odd though
@Ha Phung Thu they gave credits lmao
It's genuinely my favorite blackpink song ever so unique BUT STILL has bp color
Lol literally copy a famous classical piece and it’s unique.
@@RiseUpToYourAbility ever heard of sampling ??? yes never heard a classical sampling with hiphop production so iT'S SO UNIQUE it blended so well
If y’all are more interested about Paganini in kpop, you should check out Golden Child’s performance of Wannabe on Road to Kingdom!
Actually, they did react to this right after the performance aired. U can watch it thru their channel in Patreon. But... need to pay for it 😁
@@roseanneyu5279 oh really? Aw man 😭
@@kevinscheeseballhair9720 yeppp, they did reacted to all performances of RTK thru patreon
Omg finally I'm waiting for you guys reaction 😭🙏🏼🙏🏼
Teddy is a genius composer and producer. He knows how to play with sounds and know that hip hop is the core of YGent. Jason is right. Shutdown sounds different with a classical sample yet sounds like bp aswell and made to appeal to public. Slowly BP is changing their sound but "catchy" should stay on their songs. Thats why BP is so popular nowadays
9:34 the casual “yeah” wow how sexy of him 😂
React to their album! Its epic and a roller coaster of talent!