Digital biology and open science -- the coming revolution | Stephen Larson | TEDxVienna

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024

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  • @dejkj1
    @dejkj1 9 лет назад +9

    The biggest problem overlooked in this talk has been highlighted in my peer-reviewed papers, e.g. -- "While physics and chemistry are physical sciences whose interactions are wholly determined by physicality, biology is an information science since all of the defining characteristics of biology are controlled by life’s information processing systems.Biology isn’t just complicated chemistry, since it involves coded messages (semiotics) and coded algorithmic prescriptive instructions (instantiated computer programs) ." ("Biocybernetics and Biosemiosis", in Biological Information 2013, 402-413, www.worldscientific.com/doi/pdf/10.1142/9789814508728_0017)
    Dr.Larson says the molecular machines are controlled by "the fundamental rules of physics and chemistry," which is nonsense as control can only be done via prescriptive information. Physical laws constrain, but do not and cannot control (control requires formalism).
    See www.programmingoflife.info for more information and links (including the PoL video which has had over 288K views).

    • @AndrewWilsonStooshie
      @AndrewWilsonStooshie 7 лет назад +5

      "Biology isn’t just complicated chemistry"
      Yes it is. We can call DNA a code but that's a metaphor. It's just chemistry. There is nothing more to DNA than a phosphate a sugar and a base and DNA does nothing more than follow the rules of chemistry.
      "control can only be done via prescriptive information."
      Really? Water flows downhill because it's controlled by gravity. Because it has to.
      Adenine bonds with Thymine in DNA because the chemistry controls it. Because it has to.

    • @caitlinncushnan2616
      @caitlinncushnan2616 5 лет назад

      you write too much.... seu merda

    • @sorhanft
      @sorhanft 5 месяцев назад

      @@AndrewWilsonStooshieif that was true, the we could create the DNA 🧬 with pure chemistry 🧪 and make it come to life. Theres more to it than just chemistry

    • @AndrewWilsonStooshie
      @AndrewWilsonStooshie 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@sorhanft dna is pure chemistry and we can create it.

    • @AndrewWilsonStooshie
      @AndrewWilsonStooshie 5 месяцев назад

      @@sorhanft life isn't just dna but it is just chemistry

  • @NicholasWongCQ
    @NicholasWongCQ 9 лет назад +6

    Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, said this: "Biologists must constantly keep in mind that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved.".

    • @coachmarc2002
      @coachmarc2002 8 лет назад +1

      Yet he provided no naturalistic evolutionary explanation as to how the information required to get life going in the first place could have arisen.

    • @TheRetainersVEVO
      @TheRetainersVEVO 8 лет назад +1

      +coachmarc2002 indeed, i see this is some theres must have been a basic composite in which this information came to, which gives rise to the fact imagine it a computer code, it is possible to code a code which will "code itself" through trial and error, or in your terms "evolve". a baby code which would adapt and grow like the brain would

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад

      +coachmarc2002
      where do god's specs come from?

    • @coachmarc2002
      @coachmarc2002 8 лет назад

      +DB I'm not sure I get what you're asking me. Can you rephrase the question for me.

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад

      coachmarc2002
      Well, is god more or less complex than his creation?
      Does he have more or less information content?

  • @geobla6600
    @geobla6600 6 лет назад +3

    I was getting a little bit nervous about this talk.
    Why I thought this guy was an ID Scientist the way he was describing the complexity
    of the cell to precision of the universe.
    The bit on how if man was as accurate as a cell , we would of made 10 mistakes
    over our entire history and the little animation of the Kinisen , one of many of
    the types of nano machines in most of the 30 trillion cells in the human
    body that operate with a the preciseness for a very specific purpose.
    I'm fairly certain the audience was having the same thoughts , since he didn't
    get much of a response to some of his parables of humans being's as the most intelligent
    creatures on the planet , but nature beats us at everything from programming ,
    engineering and the design and creation of complex life forms.
    The complex nano machines like the Flagellum Motor or the Kinesin's that transport materials in all 30,000,000,000 cells in a human body.
    Most of these cells having hundreds of machines with many different types.
    Or how he mentioned that if humans were as accurate in what we do , that humanity would
    have made 10 or 12 mistakes during our history.
    That might be because they estimate that a approx 20,000,000,000,000 reactions take place
    in a human being every second. That in effect would take the most powerful computer
    on the planet about 2 hours to process.
    It's fascinating how current science shows complexity beyond anything that could of been
    imagined 30 years ago . How all 30,000,000,000 cells carry the human genome which
    are controlled by thousands of different complex machines that shut off and turn on
    different sections of the DNA to make the 100's of different cells as needed.
    Or if a couple of mistakes in the 3,2000,000,000 codons of the DNA in any of the 30,000,000,000,000 cells could cause a serious illness.
    And just think that there are hundreds of different processes going on in every one
    of those 30 trillions cells every second. ( thats 30,000,000,000,000,000 per second)
    And how Intelligent People give credit for the billions of random non-directed designs
    in nature and in most cases could only hope someday to possibly copy some of them.

  • @ronaldnewcomb4393
    @ronaldnewcomb4393 9 лет назад +2

    This line will necessarily end in a mechanistic view of mental functions which have already failed to explain the human mind. In particular, experiences that are returned from many people who have near death experiences and return with verifiable information that they had no mean of obtaining when they were alive, and, of course, no way of obtaining by the body while it was dead. Yes, millions of tiny machines, but this cannot explain what happens repeatedly to some humans in those circumstances because the biological machines have stopped, at least temporarily, the senses driven by these machines stop gathering data, all measurable metal function have stopped, and yet when they awaken they have new knowledge that cannot be explained by any mechanistic explanation, i.e. the brain is not the mind.
    It will be interesting to see where this leads the philosophy of science.

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад

      classical argument from ignorance

    • @AndrewWilsonStooshie
      @AndrewWilsonStooshie 7 лет назад

      "returned from many people who have near death experiences "
      So not dead then. Just what they're dying brain managed to salvage in it's last, oxtgen starved, moments.

    • @AndrewWilsonStooshie
      @AndrewWilsonStooshie 7 лет назад

      "the brain is not the mind"
      It is. No consciousness has ever been witnessed that wasn't from a physical object.

  • @thelonecabbage7834
    @thelonecabbage7834 9 лет назад +12

    Beware : beyond this point there be trolls.

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад +3

      I'm not sure how many are legit trolls and how many are just ignorant cultists.

  • @Darfail
    @Darfail 8 лет назад +8

    good talk by an eloquent smart guy, and super depressing comments section

    • @lordsong7
      @lordsong7 8 лет назад

      Your own comments are depressing indeed and sadly you're really nowhere near as smart as the guy in the vid. And he ain't as smart you think either. ;)

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад

      lordsong7
      Above all, don't have a thought, cultist, as it would be toxic to your delusions.
      You will be rewarded handsomely for your gullibility.
      Just believe.
      Or else.

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад

      I'm disappointed.

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 16 дней назад

      The comments are loaded with ignorance. I wonder how many people are even aware of AI like AlphaFold and not just the chatbots.

  • @ryanzacsanders
    @ryanzacsanders 7 лет назад

    good closing words

  • @PurpleHelmetAvenger
    @PurpleHelmetAvenger 9 лет назад +2

    10:23 R2D2 peeking out from behind the D.

  • @kristianbooth6619
    @kristianbooth6619 8 лет назад +1

    No tuition here!

  • @peterh6655
    @peterh6655 3 месяца назад

    Very important topic, and this guy is diminishing it by trying to be cute.

  • @ryanzacsanders
    @ryanzacsanders 7 лет назад

    if we understood everybody would be vegan for the sake of humanity and evolution

    • @idahansson3044
      @idahansson3044 4 года назад +1

      ..we would not be able to reverse climate change at the same speed as we would thrue the right management and help of herbavours.

  • @mohdasifbiotech
    @mohdasifbiotech 6 лет назад

    alein technology is crucial .I am Aasif .i am doing B Tech from biotechnology .i want to be best scientist in my field .what should i do for being ..please reply

    • @makelebanon1
      @makelebanon1 6 лет назад +5

      wanting to be the best scientist in your field is not a goal, it's like you're saying I want to be the richest man in my country...this is not a goal! you have to read(discover), understand(feel familiar with concepts), get involved(practice), by that time you'll have known what do you want, what you're good in, and you'll have your unique prespective about things you're good in. It's simple to say hard to do, the only thing that will make you successful is loving what do you do, and having people around you who have same goals

  • @joepalcsak1250
    @joepalcsak1250 9 лет назад +21

    there's a elephant in the living room here. When brilliant minds like Larson, Craig Venter and others confess that the technology of life is millions of times more advanced than our technology, we can readily see how absurd it is to speculate that life is not intelligently designed.

    • @lordsong7
      @lordsong7 9 лет назад +15

      Joe Palcsak Exactly. But Darwinists and atheists won't let that fact disturb their religion. ;)

    • @BeanThereBunThat
      @BeanThereBunThat 8 лет назад +8

      Please provide some evidence before just assuming intelligent design. You all need to stop trying to convince yourselves so badly.

    • @joepalcsak1250
      @joepalcsak1250 8 лет назад +3

      +Ollie Prentice Ollie, I am confident that you will hold yourself to the very same standard you impose on me and am therefore delighted to oblige you. The evidence for the intelligent design of living systems comes from the very nature of what makes living systems. At the foundation of all living systems we find the most advanced information storage and processing systems we have ever encountered which prescribe the most technologically advanced feats of engineering we have ever encountered. Both features, with no known exception, are unmistakable signatures of intelligent design. Now its your turn: please provide any evidence that purely natural processes are capable of producing such features.

    • @BeanThereBunThat
      @BeanThereBunThat 8 лет назад +1

      +Joe Palcsak So you don't agree with natural selection?

    • @BeanThereBunThat
      @BeanThereBunThat 8 лет назад +1

      +Joe Palcsak do you agree that it is possible to selectively breed animals such as dogs to gain or lose certain attributes? Could you see that process happen through natural circumstance?

  • @MichaelKristin
    @MichaelKristin 9 лет назад +2

    Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools...

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail 8 лет назад +2

      Yeah, christian cultists often think they are wise.

  • @abduregraphicsdesign6990
    @abduregraphicsdesign6990 6 лет назад

    False

  • @hazbaz6571
    @hazbaz6571 6 лет назад

    This little girl doesn't wanna say god he avoided saying god by all means weak soul.

  • @hazbaz6571
    @hazbaz6571 6 лет назад

    Evolution was debunked