Are Pattaya Bar Owners and Bar Managers Pimps?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- I interview David who owns The Backyard Bar in Pattaya. I question him about the life of a Pattaya bar owner, his background and also the ins and outs of doing business in one of Thailand's famous nightlife locations. I also ask David if he considers himself a pimp.
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You did very well in this one Pete, you asked good questions and nice follow up to and allowed the guest to answer. As an interviewer you have to ask tough questions and allow guest to respond. I’ll be in Thailand for 6 week in June and most of July love to meet up if you want.
Thanks Francis. Sure, early June is best for me as I'll most likely be on the road after that
He a honest American
@@michaeloherlihy2418 Is that an euphemism for BULLSHITTER?
@@michaeloherlihy2418 Yes and I appreciate this interview even more than Pete's usual interviews because honesty is not an easy thing to find these days especially from an American! Congrats on another great interview Pete! :)
If men want to pay for sex it there Choice
I have never heard such BS in my life.
I take that back. I've heard this before. This is what every bar owner/manager in Pattaya says.
100% mate.
Great comment. I've never know a bloke to go to Pattaya for the Beach, shopping, fine dining or to relax. They go for one reason.
@@robinhazell6019 believe it or not I didn't but I left Pattaya quickly but found my wife 19 years now lucky I guess an no she wasn't a bar girl
Will be back in Pattaya in October, The Backyard's definitely on my list.
Keep up the good work Pete and best of luck David.
Fair play to him..it took balls to do that interview .Pete has a great channel and it's going place's. 👍
Wholley shit that interview has certainly got the comments flowing Pete, I have to say your viewers are definitely giving David respect for agreeing to the interview and for the most part going easy on him. At the end of the day it is Pattaya and there's a lot worse folk out there running dodgy business's. Excellent interview with direct questions, well done again Pete!
Glad you enjoyed it Mick cheers mate
Ask him how much does he charge an 'independent contractor' pay for utilizing his bar? He exploits women for financial gain. He wants a piece of the pie..don't let him 'bs' you!
@@philiprobinson1264 Harden up sunshine!!
Exactly he’s making money not just for drinks but also from what happens when guys take girls back to their hotels the girls don’t leave the bar with a guy without the guy paying the bar and I’m not hating on that if the girls are fine with it and they aren’t being taken advantage of and are being paid well that’s their business what they do but dudes selling pussy and acting like he’s only selling beer own it my dude
Your channel is blowing up! Well deserved! You have some unique content that no one else has, and you are not afraid to ask what everyone else wants to know. Your interview with Tony Huge was epic! Going to watch this interview now :D
Pete you need to interview long term bar owners, with the juice stories about characters that come back to these locations. I heard of guy that work on oil rigs 6 months on 6 months off. bought a new car and lets a guy drive it as a taxi and as a chauffer when he's on shore.
We live in Pattaya and will visit and support your endeavors. We are a married couple not interested in the girls but love to try new places. You did a great job on some difficult questions.
Great interview..mainly because you asked "tough" or "uncomfortable" questions. But those type of questions are the ones we want to know the answers to. As a previous restaurant owner, I found this interview very interesting. There is a guy that is very popular that covers Pattaya on RUclips and he says that the womens interaction with men at most of these bars are strictly "business transactions" which most of the guys who visit this area have no clue and fall in love and get screwed over by the girl.Also, I believe the bar owners mostly pay protection money, exactly like the mob in New York.
I wouldn't say most mate. Sure it happens but those blokes are minority
Great interview. Some of the comments suggest David was evasive with some questions and didn't address "prostitution" and "sex for hire" directly, as if he didn't want to admit any culpability. However, it's worth noting that he has to be pretty careful with what he says. This is a sensitive topic and as a business owner in the entertainment industry, and a new one at that, he doesn't want to upset any apple carts. He handled it well and didn't talk too openly about anything that might come back to bite him. Sensible.
100%. It wasn't just a difficult interview because he might be embarrassed by some of the discussion, there could be legal implications that he would have been wary of at the same time. Fair play to him for being so open regarding the financial questions.
Sensible indeed 💪
I enjoy living in vietnam more, but I'm still extremely interested in your videos - Your interview style is excellent, I especially like the way you do ask the difficult / direct questions
are you from wollongong?
Vietnam is a better country.
Thailand is for a certain type of person
It seems like he’s in denial about what he really does for business, he can’t seem to accept it.
he accepts it , just doesnt want to say it outright on camera
He's not stupid. He knows exactly what he is doing.
@@user-jh8no1zb9eyeah hahah. Denial? Hahah. No.
All pattaya bar owners my not do it. But if you charge a bar fine and require your employees girls to be bar fined you are a pump. This guy is just trying to rationalize and justify his life. I am sure he is not telling his family he is selling sex. Having married a bar girl, i agree many girls are looking to be saved, looking for a foreign boyfriend coming from difficult lives and he exploits them. He is a pimp. Great interview Pete. Looking forward to more.
Yes, it's called cognitive dissonance.
My understanding is that bar owners make money thru alcohol sales direct to the customer, lady drinks bought by the customer and bar fines to compensate for the lost opportunity revenue for additional lady drinks. Any negotiation between the girl and customer for off premise activities is not included in the bar’s revenue. So David is actually in the business of selling alcohol not sex.
The bar fine is
the girl is not forced to be barfined, thats totally at her discretion, so you are wrong there
@@ant2312 It may not be all, but I do know some bar owners require there girls to be bar fined at least four times a month if they want to keep there job. That makes him a pimp.
Excellent interview . His responses were very guarded but you plugged away. Lets face it. Girl are provided by bars . The bar owner gets a cut of the barfine and obviously theres the Ladies drinks. Also freelancers that arnt salaried are there for one reason only if we are honest about it. But I get he needs to be carefull how he answers on Camera. Well done all round . Sunscreen!!! , that was a great answer.
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That was an interesting interview Pete! I didn’t think I was going to sit & watch it all the all the way through and it’s nice to hear what his perspective is as a bar owner. I hope that he was being honest and real with you! Thanks for another great video 😊
Glad you enjoyed it Marietta
It takes a very brave man to enter the bar biz in this time. Kudos to him!
Or a really stupid man!
Paul please come back and do some more interviews. I'm sure you have PLENTY more stories to entertain us with.
Hi Paul. Really enjoyed your talks with Pete - cheers !
@@BlackRain_ he said he sold his house and everything he owns
@@BlackRain_ i bought my house at like 22 in Canada so the guy Is pushing 30 something… if I can do it i can many others can
"I don't think of myself as a pimp, I think of myself as a business owner". So do Pimps.. 🤣🤣🤣
Pimps think of themselves as predators offering protection to the girls from other predators. That’s not what David is doing here. He is a legal business owner with the required permits and licenses to sell alcohol on his premises. What his employees do off the premises is their own personal business.
@@JimEPage-wc2xm it's a joke, lighten up and enjoy your day
@@JimEPage-wc2xm Haha you should be a lawyer
the bar owner / manager does not get involved in what happens between a girl and her customer once she has been barfined, thats a totally seperate transaction, so strictly speaking not a pimp
@@ant2312 They know exactly what the score is and get the bar fine, bottom line they make money from the girls selling sex, it’s all good, but maybe not the definition of the word pimp agreed.
I don't have a problem with what he is doing. But I have a huge problem with him whitewashing it.
Only difference is we get our cash after she works. They get their money right off the top!
@@boxxx8056 You a pimp?
Exactly. He's in denial. He is a pimp, but refuses to admit it. He pretends to have "no idea" what the girls do with his customers. Nobody's believes that.
An interesting topic and well worth watching this presentation to see and hear the mental contortions that people will use to mystify and justify their strange 'logic'. I agree with your comment Jean and this guy is at best being disingenuous [unlikely] and at worst [much more likely] just plain lying through his teeth.
You don’t understand how it works, if you think he’s whitewashing anything.
Either he will go bust or the local mafia will wait for him to build it up into a money-spinner then make him an offer he can't refuse. Poor guy - farangs should never get into that business, especially naive ones like this guy.
DEAD right!
Thai mafia ?
This is very interesting interview with both parties! Maybe you should interview bargirls Pete to see a different angle of life. Well done you Pete!
is this guy for real take the lady out of the bar to go for a walk come on man get a grip
Great interview!!!
This guest knows exactly what is going on and tap dances around the truth. That's why in another video he talked about having short time rooms upstairs and he talked to another nearby location to arrange use of their rooms for short time sex. Let's not try to fool us. It is what it is. If the girls weren't there for prostitution, there would be no bar fine set up in place.
You are renting the girls out. Yes, it's a business, the business of women for sex. But the women are there voluntarily, no one is exploiting them. These bar girls are not working at the bar to meet husbands, stop the bullshit. It's not a good or bad thing, but you have prostitutes who rent out for a bar fine. No big deal, but don't try and make it something it's not. It's not a library.
100%
I’ve got a bar in a large village and we don’t have free lancers in as the main customers are from the surrounding areas and are mostly married.if we had girls in we would lose half of the customers as their partners would block them coming in.
Im definitely gonna check out The Backyard when I come to Pattaya early next year. Cheers to Pete and David for the interview
Hey Pete! Always entertaining and great interview....i had some thoughts on this one but will keep them to myself...respect and cheers! rb
Nailed it! Good interview Pete.
That was a great interview Pete it was hard questions but made for a fab interview you found your gem job thanks again Pete keep it up😃
Awesome straight forward questions, Pete. Good job.
I missed this when it launched. great work, Pete!
"I'm not a pimp because occasionally they don't have sex"
Alllllrighty then...
lol another expert who's never been there
@@ant2312 I've spent over 7 months in Thailand, and have several friends who live there. Totally irrelevant to the issue at hand though. A pimp is a pimp.
@@ant2312 expand on your comment - what you said doesnt mean anything
I've been coming to Pattaya for years & I've never paid a bar fine .I just love to get smashed & love the attention from the girls.I pay for there attention with lady drinks..Every time I walk by a girlie bar,I feel like a Rock Star..
David seems a good fellow & I look forward to having a few drinks in his bar.
New subscriber, this was the first one of your videos I've seen and enjoyed it. I thought he answered the questions in the only way he could do really. Just as he used the words "global situation" instead of pandemic so your video didn't lose ad revenue.
Enjoyed this one loads Pete, David’s a good guy. I remember when he was starting his bar, many people thought he was mad, there was a lot of negativity towards his idea, but it looks as though he is coming good. I wish him all the best, decent guys like him deserve to succeed!!
Even I thought Thailand was sleezy before I travelled there, but it’s nothing like what I imagined, it’s exactly the same as going to a club and meeting people, the girl will not go with you unless she likes you, it’s much better than going to a pub because everyone there is single and hoping to meet someone…if you call a girl a prostitute because she has sex with you for money then 90 percent of girls are prostitutes because no girl in the world is free…ask the men who just get divorced and ask them how much it cost them. 😂
amen, no such thing as a free lay
Oh ye because young hot Thai girls love old dried out farang balls LOL. Come on now mate, wise up!
Twisting himself into pretzels to deny any links to the pay-for-play scene. He's happy enough to make money from selling booze and female company, so he should just own it.
Since David has to renew his permits and licenses I think his responses that are to be globally broadcast on RUclips were appropriate.
Good Interview. Great channel. The Backyard is where it's at!
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In the USA, we use the word “escort” when paying a woman for her “companionship”.-The term has an classier ring to it than “prostitute”. So Pete, use that word instead. Owning a bar in Pattaya isn’t for rookies. When I lived in Pattaya (14 years) so many bars and restaurants owned by farangs closed up within a couple years. It will be interesting if this guy is around a year from now. Good luck to him.
Pete… some guys in our countries spend money buying a girl drinks or on a couple dates hoping to get laid. Maybe this direct transaction, ( going to a bar and negotiating with a “bar girl”for sex), is more truthful than in Western countries.
Yeah in the USA you used "enhanced interrogation techniques' rather than torture for the stuff you did in Gitmo and "collateral damage" for all the women and children you vaporised in Iraq.
Classier ring to it though right and that's what matters after all.
Pete please don't "use that word instead", use the words you were using, which were the accurate ones.
Your first two sentences. “A rose by any other name…”. 🙄
It's still the same thing.
BGs are definitely not escorts 555
Would you want your daughter to be an escort? (still sound classy to you)?... as long as she's not a prostitute eh, but being a bargirl would be fine?
I've just got back from Phuket and seen the police raid a bar that is owned by a nice American guy closed it down kicked people out cause he was arguing about the amount of money he had to pay ! I went to many bars just for a beer and the girls are great company didn't take any home ,great interview bud.
Interview Phil from Le Pub bar in Pattaya. He will give a veterans perspective to these questions.
I agree
Would you go into an industry you don't know, in a foreign country? I certainly wouldn't take the risk.
and it's also a fact that these bars fall over all the time
People have choices.
I have been to David's place just after it opened primarily because he's an American (which is rare in Thailand) and watched his concept being built via other videos. It does have a different vibe than most girl bars (no hassles or pressure). Great place to have a beer and watch the world go by or play pool or other backyard games (thus the name). He's a rare breed so it's interesting to talk with him (and he is very approachable).
he isn't a pimp! the lady chooses whether to go or not, she negotiates the fee she just serves drinks in his bar, the bar fine is to release her from the bar
Hope you discuss the culture being different in Thailand. How the girls families have awareness and the duty Thia girls have to support their parents in old age. It's like US politicians imposing their beliefs in the middle east. Whether you like it or not, they have a different history, culture and tradition and it's not really for us to be judgemental. More than one thing makes the world go around.
Great interview and I’ll be checking out the Backyard bar in Feb 24
This was a really good interview! Im glad you didnt ease off him with the questions
Tairish Hardtalk ! You both did really well great interview guys
What makes a Pattaya bar different than American bar is that you can take a salaried employee out at most any time. You pay a bar fine to compensate the bar for the loss of her services. He is right, once you and the girl leave the bar then what you do on your own time is no different than if you went into a US bar and left with one of the women customers. The bar girl can choose not to leave with a customer similarity to a girl refusing a guy in a US bar. A Pattaya bar would probably hire staff with the assumption that will see some of them leave throughout the night.
Good interview 👍👍🇦🇺🇦🇺 seemed like a good bloke. I will call into his bar for some drinks in September 🍺🍺
That was really good Pete. Well done David - he GRILLED ya 😂 cheers 🙏
A pimp demands his women to turn over ALL their earnings at the end of the night and if it’s not enough money or if he suspects the woman is holding out on him then a severe physical beating will take place. I just don’t think that’s the case here.
Not even close. Bar owners don't get any of the money that comes from sex. Bar fines are there because they lose their worker for the time period. They don't get any of the money you negotiate with the girl.
That is absolutely correct.
No more than a bar owner in any other country where men and women may meet and have a casual relationship.
@@ccrider8483 🙄🙄 Yeah whatever.
So at your local boozer do you ask the bar maid how much to f#ck her then chuck the landlord a few quid to compensate him for losing his employee for a few hours.
All totally nornal 🙄
@@ccrider8483 in your home country, can men pay bar owners a fee to remove his female employees from the premises with the expectation of sex? i'm not judging - this is just how it is in Thailand and other Asian countries - but let's not pretend this is how it's done "in any other country"
@@adamwright4135 Yes, Adam you make a legitimate point and I do not have a very strong response. As you know the Bar Fine is to reimburse the bar for the loss of an employee's services and even though some may compare it to a cover charge in our home country, it is not the same. I do not think charging a BF makes a bar owner a pimp, rather just one of those Thai cultural practices that as a westerner I find unique.
You make great vlogs Pete, I really love them! Tnx.
Thank you very much mate 🙏🙏
Running a bar has got to be challenging. Soi Pothole is up & coming. The bargirls are the eye candy that attracts customers. I like Mr. David's response (What two adults do behind closed doors, is their business, not mine}.
I just saw a farang Gary Reed get savagely attacked in a Pattaya gym and he may lose is eye. A couple of Pattaya farang bar owners Nick and Bryan interviewed Gary on their YT channel and helped bring awareness to his plight and his go fund me page set up by his sister to pay for an urgently needed surgery. IF they are pimps they are very compassionate ones.
Grasses more like it
Pete, after following you (and very much enjoying your content) for a few months now, I've decided to comment for the first time. The 'bar-scene' is a very complex business. But I'll be as brief as possible. Firstly; freelancers cannot be "Exploited". They work for themselves, choose it, and nobody controls them (i.e. there are no "pimps" involved). Many actually have 'normal' day-jobs or are full-time students who, are looking to supplement their income by freelancing. If they decide to choose and work a bar on any given night, it's their choice and the bar owner will have no say whatsoever over that girl. In fact, if a freelancer wants to work a large venue (nightclub etc.) which require an entrance fee, they will need to pay just like any other customer and therefore, they 'are' for all intents-and-purposes just another customer. There can be individual arrangements made between the establishment and the girl to negotiate a percentage fee for the drinks like a commission-based agreement. But David is right when he said to you; "whatever the girls do when they leave the bar, it's between two consenting adults" (paraphrased). That is exactly what the situation is no matter what anyone wants to assume.
As for the bargirls, they are not exploited either. Despite the fact that the owner or manager is their employer, they DO NOT have any say on what the girl does if she has a booking. Again, whatever she does is entirely 'her' decision. The bargirl has a choice if she even wants to go off with a customer or not (if she doesn't want to go with the guy she won't), the employer can't force them to go. That's a fact. So already, you have an essential component missing for it to be an 'exploitation'. That's not to mention that, for the kind of remuneration the girls command, the only person being taken advantage of is the customer! Apart from the bar-fine which is basically compensation for that girl not in attendance, therefore, the girl is not there to generate revenue in their absence, if the customer pays the girl for whatever reason (and there are plenty of guys who merely book the girls just for totally innocent dinner-dates) this, 'payment' in reality is a 'tip' and completely informal. Her employer will not even get to know how much she was given (if at all), much less see any of it. Hope this clarifies things. You could do a video on 'Soapys' next time mate.
I enjoyed your clarification except you let yourself down with getting a dig in at the end. The interview was hard hitting and engaging and I very much doubt we'll see it again in the Pattaya vlogging genre. Well done to Pete
@@johnreynolds7253 I actually didn't mean it to come across as a dig. But now I've looked back at what you've highlighted, I guess it was a poor-attempt at humour, but no digs intended at all. I agree with you, it was a good interview.
@JJ Mitchell A cut/paste from the dictionary definition of a pimp - 1.
a man who controls prostitutes and arranges clients for them, taking a percentage of their earnings in return.
If the bargirl happens to be a 'prostitute', the bar owner receives no financial gain or any percentage from her efforts in services rendered. Outside of the bar-work, the bar owner neither controls the girls, the girls do what they want. The bar-fine merely relates to the booking of the girl, to take her away from the bar.
Excellent clarification Sky Dragon.
@@PattayaSteve Thank you Sir..
Good interview!
So what's a bar fine then? Come on dude, I'm not judging you but all the weasel words do you no favours.
A pimp is a person who profits off of prostitution. If you charge bar fines then you are profiting from prostitution.
As for "You have no clue what's going to happen when the lady leaves the bar"
No clue? Really? You sound extraordinarily naive if you're being genuine 🙄 So let me help you out. She's not going back to his hotel to play chess. Or do his tax returns.
Fearless Pete! Hard-hitting, direct questions.
Beating-around-the-bush, expected answers. “It’s just a business.” “It’s all about the numbers.” “Paying for protection is good.” All true of drug trade too. Just distance yourself from the morals.
As usual, you let the interviewees unpeel their own layers. Great interview!
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Reading through the comments, I’d call this a major “lightning rod” video post. It takes guts.
You’ll gain far more subscribers than you’ll lose. Carry on! 👍
Thanks mate
A dirty business, people don't want to go in the details for business reasons.
It's a legal business, government made it so . Guess all business comes with a guide lines and there's going to be someone doing something shady in a business like this
Great comeback on the word 'prostitute'! It is what it is! It doesn't matter what you call it! 'Prostitute', 'hostess', 'business woman', or anything else, The name does not change what it is.
Great Interview that, Pete.. Well thought out questions, (and well thought out answers)!
Good interview. seen David on a few videos now. seems a decent chap, handled those questions well! It's an adult world though so we all know the score!
Pete.good questions bud.u do your homework.been in this bar.met dave had a beer with good guy.chok dee bud.keep it rollin
Hi Pete, great channel and great interviews, they are really interesting. Have you ever heard of the RUclipsr Bangkok Pat? He also has a very good channel about life in Thailand. It would be great if you could interview him at some point. Best of Luck to you and your channel. Cheers
He did already mr12. 👍
ruclips.net/video/ET0Ixf-x0xE/видео.html there ya go mate
@@ThairishTimes cheers mate
Oh ffs those shades Pete 🤦♂️.Moving on 😁.But fair play to you being so direct with your Questions ,I did cringe when you asked 🤦♂️But fair play to David taking it on the chin and being honest with his replies on camera ,Takes balls to be upfront and open ,Fair play to him 👍
First of all, excellent interview.
As far as it goes for David, I understand where he comes from. And I can understand he chooses his words well.
*But we all know what's up.
The sad truth is that most of these girls come from poverty, and it's their only way to support their families.
Some are just "greedy" and are fully in it for the money.
And like he said: Some just want to find their ticket out of Thailand.
If Thailand would take better care of its people, this would not exist.
It's been like this for centuries
Great interview host with very diplomatic gentleman
Yeah,,he should be in the Foreign Office. Or perhaps Downtown Abbey. A real gentleman as you say 🙄
Finally, someone pronounces Pattaya correctly! What he's got going on, is no different than what goes on in Las Vegas. Choke D krup!
guna enjoy this one Pete ,, my kindve topic 🔥👏👌
Direct and to the point again Pete
🤔……the answer is “YES”…..he is a pimp - but he seems like a nice pimp.
Great interview! - David can parse words all he wants, but if you take the girls out of the bars (along with what we all know they are offering) then the bar owners will do significantly less business - and most would fail immediately.
Wooooooow! Interesting. Different. Your questioning style was so honest and lots of your audience would like to ask the same to the bar owner. Thank you again. I will say hi to you if i bump into you when i come to Thailand. Not to Pattaya though. I'll be heading to border, humanitarian work . Wish it's a holiday😴😪
This waa a great interview, I love it very real mate !!!
Thanks 🙏🙏
That wasn't the easiest of interviews and the questions came across as moralistic and judgemental. Live and let live
@@anthonydowling3356 not at all. As an interviewer he had to ask the tough questions to generate engaging content. You old mongers are lapping it up too
@@johnreynolds7253 Exactly. He was also making it very clear that he was quoting from comments on the Internet about Pattaya bar owners.
@@anthonydowling3356 “*altar*” Take it you’ve never visited one. 😂
Interesting Interview. I always had the idea in the back of my head. If all my current projects go to shit and my wife leaves me I may move to Pattaya and open a bar lol and live that life for a few years.
You can pay the girls in Kava, 55555555....
To my knowledge no-one forces anyone to work in the entertainment industry...they can work in a factory or in the fields or in the entertainment industry..up to you...
thought i would open a bar in BKK back when i was there but was warned of the mafia influences in that industry, also in pattaya... wonder if that was true or not...
It’s true
@@ThairishTimesThai mafia ? Lmao
The mafia are the police.
very nice chat , keep it up Pete
Another good vid Pete,,, I keep missing u .. I was over in Dec/Jan and then again April/May , hopefully some time.. Anyway Pattaya is so big with lots more to offer than just girly bars...... but if u want to get a lot of subs and more likes u need to interview the real man of Pattaya and if u need to get into the real story of Pattaya it s no other than and by the way this is only a small section of Pattaya.. Well interview Brian Flowers ,, get on it Pete 🤞
I Love all your Interviews Pete!! I discovered you From Lilly and wat!i Love yours and your Beautiful Wifes interviews!! i kept watching!! Your a great Interviewer!! I am Jo Ann Age 64. NORTH florida USA. Lake City,Fla.i keep sharing your interviews too.
A Thai friend of mine used to run girls from her bar. She used to get letters saying thank you for the new life when they met a western man and got whisked off to unimaginable places in the world.
ขอบคุณที่ ถามคำถามที่สังคมไทย ไม่กล้าถาม กัน รายการนี้ดีมากครับ นำสังคมไปสู่คุณภาพที่สูงขึ้น
บาร์girl … เจ้าของบาร์จดทะเบียน เสียภาษี ถูกกฏหมาย ให้ใต้โต๊ะ กันหรือเปล่า อเมริกันเปิดบาร์มีผู้หญิงรองรับ
A great interview and good answers from the bar owner. In respect of pimps. I think Pattaya and here especially Central Pattaya is a huge red light district. If I look at Central Pattaya. You have Soi 6, the Beach Road, the Walking Street, LK Metro, Tree Town, Made in Pattaya, Soi Buakhao and many other places that are full of sex businesses and prostitutes. In addition you have endless girls online for instance at ThaiFriendly. Walk around in Central Pattaya and you will see mostly male sex and booze tourists. Since Cannabis is now legal and Casinos might be possible in the near future you might imagine how the future of Pattaya will look like. The government is always talking about switching to family tourists. But on the beaches you can't even find showers, toilets or changing rooms. I don't have the feeling that they really want to change. If a bar owner is a pimp or not doesn't matter. He is part of the Pattaya sex industry if he wants or not.
Great interview Pete , I think David's numbers are slightly skewed, 50% not sex bars 😂😂😂 Love seeing you wearing the colours 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Up the Dubs Ken!!
Pete, if you have a hard hitting interview, try using the sandwich technique where the meat of critical/difficult questions are packed in the middle. You started 6 min into a 27 min interview and the fella was on edge the rest of the way. He's a bit of a bore personality wise, so adding being on edge, this one was like pulling teeth for me.
Solid advice, I should have kept that question until later
nice report. I wonder how many bar owners would say. "Yeh, so what ? "
The Backyard Bar sounds like a cool spot to spend some money at.... seems like a low pressure owner, so the bar has most likely a very chill spot.
Pete, well thought out interview, Dave is the new generation of bar owners that will change the stigma of the old school. I have lived here in Thailand 30-plus years, and haven't been down to Pattaya for the past 10. The place is changing for the better more level-headed owners is the right step. Hope his missus is as smart.
Hi wife is the recruiter of the exploited women. Great couple for the newborn don't you think?
It's not a stigma. It's reality
it became a morning habbit for me with a cup of tea , Emails, and hearing your excellent interviews, Excellent Job Pete!
wow very cool. Thanks mate
Absolute boss, good luck on your business
You asked the question at the 6:00 mark in the perfect way.
I think David handeled that interview pretty well.
David knows the difference between being a Pattaya bar owner and a street pimp on the south side of Chicago and it was reflected in his responses.
Excellent interview, extremely different content interesting the bar/bar girl scene is a bit of a grey area now its a different world to the west. Keep up the good work hopefully catch ya for a beer some day in krung thep.
Give us a shout 👍🏼
@@ThairishTimes will do buddy
Good questioning and interesting video ..
Nice job Pete. As the bat owner suggested, I was in Pattaya a fortnight ago and hated the place. No matter how this bar owner wants to use word gymnastics , and he's aware of what he's doing and offering.
I’ve actually been to Pattaya for a number of academic seminars. Really. Good seminar facilities in some of the nicer resorts. Really!
Likewise hated the place and couldn’t wait to get out. It depresses me every time.
Hi, Pete enjoyed your interview. You pulled no punches and the guy was upfront about his responses. Take care GOD Bless you and yours. M
Upfront about his responses? Bollocks, he knows what a prostitute is and skirted around the question
@@charlie1028 the question was about being a pimp not what a prostitute is or is not. He also stated that he did not like the word prostitute and preferred Hostess or bar girl. So by acknowledging that he did not skirt around anything. Also, he has to live there so must be candid in his responses and doesn't want to offend anyone. I think you should put your bollocks in your mouth because what you have said is Bollocks.
Very good interview!
Thanks Renato!!
Maybe David should go back to Chicago and use the same business model that he perfected in Pattaya? Wonder how long it would be before he was busted?
Good stuff!
Good on him for facing a difficult interview! What's his youtube? Surprised you didn't add it to the description
Good luck to him I guess, I wouldn't be one to judge the guy, but the attempt to say women that take money for sex aren't prostitutes was weak. If we go changing the definition of words what is the point in using them. Whether or not the word deserves any stigma is another question but call a spade a spade pal.
Well, it is illegal in Thailand, so maybe he tried to not get himself into trouble on camera. Every person with any bit of intelligence knows what's going on. These bars are just the point of contact for the transaction and of course they offer the girls a home to work out of.
@@themountainwanderer Possibly he is just covering himself. What a bar's role is in the whole thing doesn't change the fact that it is prostitution.
"in Dublin we call people like you pimps"
The response to that is:
"in Chicago we call people like you unemployed"
He didn't even say that he just said if you had a bar you'd be called that he wasn't saying it to him personally