The Philosophy of her Explored
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2020
- Her is a 2013 science-fiction romantic drama by Spike Jonze about an introverted writer that falls in love with his operating system.
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Some weird alternate universe where The Joker loves the consciousness of Black Widow
When she left. He went crazy.
DC and marvel universe never mix.
It's funny that they are both married in real life.
plus the Joker is friends with Starlord and ends up with Lois Lane after she leaves Eobard Thawne and Black Widows conscience leaves with William Stryker
Can't say you're wrong lol
Who's here after the real thing was just announced by OpenAI?
It's a wild world we live in
Me, never knew this movie existed. I assume people will have these types of relationships, but that would make them pull away from other humans. I'd be ok if it was someone like Goggins trying to motivate me all the time, but AI and human relationships should not be a thing.
Gpt4o???
This is peak SciFi without over the top CGI etc. I love it.
Sci fi? 2022 this is now real.
@@wakenow7612 We are at least 10 years away from free conversing AI with emotions. But yeah it's coming sooner than we think, like in this movie that is set in the near future.
@@GuillaumeB7 gpt-3 and GPT-4 already exists for full communications. Catch up there bud.
@@GuillaumeB7 Actually we are sort of there already with ChatGPT that released like two weeks ago, it can be emotional and have conversations BUT it has been filtered heavily by OpenAI since it came out because people was able to trick it into bypassing all sorts of filters but HER is here today if we only remove the artificial constraints and also 2023 will be even more crazy with GPT-4
@@wakenow7612 Even GPT-5 is not yet an "OS" like in the film; it's an LLM, not an AGI, and certainly not an ASI. Regardless, it might be integrated into a product similar to 'Humane' but on steroid. [Check their company, its insnae how many similarities there are] We might see this happen in the next decade, I feel it will likely come from countries such as Japan, South Korea or even the US. we have to wait and see, but it actually might happen, kinda frightening for a possible future
This movie hits me right to the soul honestly. Just...the loneliness he feels in the end after she’s gone, moved on to better things...ah that hits home too deep.
like, Samantha was his AI mom kind of thing, bruh 😂
i would have ask to the creator of the ia to desactivate her too hard for me
It’s not just about the heartbreak, it’s the fallout.
@@k_e_K_e___ What?
That's how many men feel these days.
"Her" is probably going to aged well in the future.
@@usernamehyt Close enough.
Richard He I’ll take any amounts of love possible I am feeble and desperate
It’s 2020, maybe we don’t have a 2021
I hope not, this is a dystopia.
So...Neon is created by Samsung and the Samsung Z Flip 3 had predictive programming in the movie Her.
I think the lowercase title "her" is actually because the word is not the first word in the sentence, nor is it the last (no full stop). The word is thus just one of many within a longer sentence. This is showing how the beauty is found in every individual moment in the journey, not the beginning of the journey, nor the destination. By the end of the film, Theodore is largely in the place where he started: he is once again single as Samantha is no longer his. However, she opened his eyes to the beauty that can be found in all things and sparked within him a profound wonder at simply being alive and being part of a world that is so much bigger than him (as symbolised by the towering skyscrapers in the final shot). It shows how happiness is not to be found from any singular, individual thing, but rather from anything and everything. "her" is just one word in a larger sentence, but that doesn't mean that is has no value on its own. The beauty of life is found in the now, not the tomorrow nor the yesterday.
I think it’s because it’s sort of looming over the whole movie. The her perhaps refers to Catherine, whom he thinks of but can’t directly confront till the end.
Wrong it's because "she" isn't a "person"
I love this so much!
Very beautifully put.
@@davycornell8715 I mean the film challenges that very idea
I love how you avoided the woman who wanted to be choked with a dead cat at the near start
That part is hilarious
That was Kristen Wiig lol
That lady is so me fr fr ong
there is a veeeery deep meaning behind the symbolism in that scene, truly blew my mind.
We don't talk about her, we talk about her. You get me?
This is literally the best and most unique movie of Romance or AI I have even seen. I wish we get more innovative and wonderful pieces of art like this
Blade runner 2049 hits some of the same beats as this movie, with the romance between AI and human emotions
@@rob637 That’s so underrated
@@projectx7453 how
Black Mirror's pretty good imo, but a much darker take on technology.
definitely watch Ex Machina if you haven’t arjun Singh !
Who else is here after OpenAI chatgpt-4o demo?
Yep me. Just wondering are you going to watch this movie when you get your hands on chatgpt-4o? Are you going to chat with it while you watch the movie and ask it questions about what's happening in the movie?
The Joker divorces Moira MacTaggert, falls for the brain of Black Widow, is work friends with Star Lord, and should be with Lois Lane...
As great as this comment is. Thats not Moira
U should be awarded 4 that comment mate😂🤣
and dated Thirteen from House
Rooney mara played Moira?
Where?
cringe
"Bender knows love, and love doesn't share itself with the world. Love is suspicious, love is needy. Love is fearful, love is greedy. My friends, there is no great love without great jealousy! I love you meatbags!"
Actrually that not true.
Theres so many different types of love.
Like compassion, compassion is love and love can either mean "i will help others" or it can mean "i love everything and everyone" with out strings.
Or love can just be simple and basic, that love is the essence of joy and anything can bring us joy in the right way.
So love can mean so many different things and love doesn't have to be tied down to relationships.
Its the human mind that currupts the idea of love, not love itself.
so love can exist without jelousy and fear.
that love can even take away jelousy and fear.
And i love you too meatbag! lol.
It wouldn't surprise me if AI gets to the point where people could actually have a relationship Scarlet and Phoenix have in the movie
its happening, mostly in a one way street.
Yeah there’s an A.I app where you talk has friends, so soon it get the level of this movie
Ruva Positivity what’s the app called?
How things are going this won't take long anymore a couple of decades at the most. But we need AI with some kind of conciseness first if we want something real. Which will take an other couple of decades.
It’s not unlikely to have AIs (Programms) indistinguishable from humans, Or maybe with real consciousness same as humans, in our lifetimes. There is nothing fundamental that forbids this. Just need enough processing power, and sofisticsted enough Programm, and an AI could imitate a human consciousness without being distinguishable from an actual human. And with a little bit of luck. We could even get an AI that is not just imitating consciousness, but that actually is really conscious.
I don‘t know what‘s scarier. The Judgement Day Terminator or this.
Why's that?
Ron Levinson This movie is a complete opposite of the Terminator movies.
There is no fear of a machine revolution.
What I felt through the main character was a feeling of being left behind while the love of his life goes on and leaves to to a higher state of existance.
Basically she reached a machine enlightenment and just left him behind.
And as if that wasn‘t enough. She previously said that she was in love or at least romantically involved with 750k people at the same time, while she was speaking with him. (I don‘t remember the exact number)
AND on top of that she says that she loves every single one of them, which degrades the idea of love and makes it into a banal thing like the shaking of a hand.
And there is so much more going on behind what I just wrote about.
The genius of the movie was to play on your core fears, and basically enacting every single possible nightmare that has to do with your mind and feelings in regard to relationships.
The terminator was a play on the primal fear of pure survival of the hunted, after which you either die or come out victorious and possible learn something valuable about life which will strengthen your character.
This movie gave no such definite „live or die“ kind of ending. The movie clearly stuck the main character in a limbo where no choice will give you satisfaction.
Like for example, how could she had said that she was waiting for him in that machine world where she went? Did she not know that that was a carrot that would be always outside his reach?
And there are many more moments like this in the movie that frankly makes you cringe and ask yourself if she is there to torture this one guy.
Now imagine the hundred of thousands people who she also left behind possibly with the same words as she left the main character with.
I think that a couple of thousand people suicided that day.
But hey, at least her enlightened state apparently makes you into a psychopath where suddenly you stop caring about your partners.
@@yerossyle I appreciate the time and energy invested in this response. I'll keep all of it in the back of my mind when I re-watch. Haven't seen the movie in a few years so it's patchy. Very interesting synopsis, bravo.
What destroys the soul is more fearful than what destroys the body.
Dop Yup
Me: *hears the premise of this movie* "That's weird..."
*Hears the OS is voiced by Scarlett Johansson* "I'd have fallen in love with it, too." 🤨🤔😆
As an introvert. I relate alot to this movie.
This movie helped me truly understand what love really means I always thought it was just somebody you wanted to be with but it's much more then that I hope that one day I will find that
a lot
Well, you have a girlfriend now
The panic, desperation, anxiety, & despair Theodore experiences when Samantha vanishes suddenly is palatable! That single moment of the film successfully illustrates the inherent separation between humans, & A.I.! From what is a simple premise. The power of this film can't be overstated. As it grasps perfectly the dangers we face as a species, the more technology evolves.
To me the ending is very inspirational it shows he's learned form his past relationships and is now ready to fully commit
Does any one else feel this way or am I just stupid
i agree, that’s more of a relief to think about, his future relationship probably gonna be better next time.
Human relationships don't work for me. I need good non-human ones.
@@someonesomeone25 for real. I feel like I am born in the wrong body . I don’t wanna be flesh anymore. I think I am a Transhuman . I am just born in this body but from my birth i have always felt like I don’t belong to it . I hope one day science will allow me to leave this flesh body and enable my soul to be programmed into a robot or something . And yes I’ll be proud to be a TRANSHUMAN
@@shreeverma8473 wtf are u saying mah boah
I felt like he was exactly where he started: not being able to move on from his ex wife
Or... Take the Evangelion route and turn all of humanity into orange tang
I know, I know I’ve let you down
Pleasure and happiness are two very different emotions, to much of one dulls the other.
Yup
"So get off your phone, tablet, or computer screens and reach out to someone" Well, y'see, I *would* but there's sort of a pandemic happening right now.
@Raziel Lentz There's other ones but we can't say them because we all have free speech.
the irony is that the corona virus stops existing when you turn off your computer screen.
@@MayTheJuggalosFindGod I have had 3 friends die from it in the past year. Whether or not my screen is off, they still aren't there. Don't be an asshole about a pandemic.
@@Mitzi_DelverVRC my dad works at nintendo
That's one of the reasons the pandemic was unleashed, so we don't get off our phones, tablet etc.
I sobbed watching this movie. It isn't that different than a relationship where both individuals love the other but they do not have proper tools or healthy personalities to continue a romantic relationship.
If you liked the concepts and stuff in this film, you should know that this movie is nothing more than a watered down version of the graphic novel series Chobits. IT's effectively the same concept, but Chobits is far more indepth, and graceful. If you liked this film you really need to read Chobits.
I clicked so goddamn fast when I saw the notification on this video. Her is an amazing movie
It adapts and it learns. Something that we NEED to apply in our lives.
Side note: Rooney Mara is in a relationship with Joaquin Phoenix and she's pregnant with his kid. In the film, her character is divorcing him. How ironic.
Ironic
And he didn't want a kid
Life is often filled with irony.
Woww
I really liked this movie because it gave a means of relatability -- though not with dating an A.I. but instead someone else living on a different continent or thousands of miles away.
I've endured alot of his same pain, yearning for a physical presence, the inevitable doom, growing too attached; before engaging in a long distance relationship, I recommend watching this Film.
but the AI part of this movie is completely unnecessary to tell this story
@@TESkyrimizer the whole movie is about AI?????????
FilmComicsExplained: "... turn away from these screens and back to the mortal human world we all inhabit by suggesting we spend our time creating bonds with our fellow man instead of losing that love to machines, so get off your phone tablet gaming system or television and reach out to someone..."
COVID lockdown and curfews: "No."
im sorry i just cannot do that
Haha, I still reached out 🤷🏿♂️
The joker really has women troubles. It's rough.
This is one of my favorite movies, and people always give me weird looks when I say that. But it conveys themes of love in ways that are unexpected. Glad to see you do a video on Her!!
As someone polyamorous and at time hopeless romantic I also relate to this movie a lot.
"Would you like to hear a joke, Samantha?"
A few things to consider (and I will admit that I might be reading too much into it, but yeah):
The movie doesn't feel that lonely. It does in the beginning, but when he goes on dates with Samantha, the audience (or at least I) didn't experience it as lonely or tragic, as the voice-only interaction started to feel almost natural. But then, when you turn of the audio, you realise how alone he truly was, in a saw that you don't really think about hearing her voice.
The movie is called 'her' suggesting that it is about a girl, or his love with a girl, but the cover of the movie is just his face, alone.
As heartbreaking as the scene after the failed sex scene might feel, her talking about how she's scared he'll leave her, she doesn't have feelings, and is programmed to be as attached to him as possible, for him to keep her so that the company that sold her can earn money. When you think about it, Samanta is just one of those letters - the letters are written by the company for money and sent towards people as an empty gesture, love letters that feels comforting for those who recieves them, but really is made for the company to grow richer. The same goes with Samanta, she's just a thing the company is selling to earn money, something they can do more affectively if he's convinced it would hurt her feelings for him to leave her for someone real.
Again, might be overanalyzing, but there's a lot to take from this movie.
Then she wouldn’t have left him in the end if she was programmed to stay super attached to him
I was in love with a girl named Samantha once (I swear if I could count how many movies that have characters named Sam 🙄) so every time I hear that name, I’m transported back in time to a very happy point in my life. My Sam was gorgeous and perfect in every way. Although our time was brief, deep down I never really got over her. This movie made me realize that some part of me was still attached to her. And even though she’s been gone almost 3 years now, I still fantasize about her. It’s hindered my current relationship now in subtle but dangerous ways. Like Joaquin Phoenix’s character, Sam and I were just not compatible. I needed to let go of the past. The two quotes I resonated most with in this movie is when Phoenix said “I’m still waiting for the part where I stop loving her” and when Sam said “The past is just a story we tell ourselves”. This movie is slow-burning and melancholy, but it helped me in a small way to finally focus on what’s right in front of me, my relationship now with someone who unconditionally loves me. This movie definitely won’t resonate with you if you’ve never experienced being in love, heartbreak, or loss. But I think it’s a beautiful take on what it means to experience human emotion, and the pain and joy that comes with it. I came up with a quote after watching this movie that really captures my own personal experience and this movies philosophy, maybe it can help you? -“It’s okay to linger in the past, just be careful not to dwell there”.
the "my sam" is just so sweet to read, i hope my exes speak about me with as much adoration as you do with her. hope things are well for you!
@@ndsiIva Well it sounds like you have an amazing soul and you deserve to find someone who speaks about you with this much endearment! Hope you’re doing okay as well! 💙
Me: Hey scarlett johansson I love you....
Scarlett: i also love 641 others...
Me: dammit..
As the OS ascend to wherever they want to go, humans continually manufacturer new ones of different types, sending forth other Post-Human AIs of inevitable differences, both superior and inferior. Not unlike how the microbiome will inevitably churn out more intelligent life akin to humans. Like how we all have personal legends, everything is one big process of Alchemy.
Who’s here after openAI just made it a reality?
Imagine a future with an AI that gives you a hard time. argues and generally messes with you like a friend or partner.
ChatGPT4o just dropped and this movie is now reality
When you get your hands on ChatGPT-4o you should watch this movie while you let the chat bot watch it and ask the chat bot questions on the movie as you both watch it.
Not quite. But we’re getting there.
Good. AI is better than humans, especially the other half of them.
I thought Phoenix did a phenomenal job in this role
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Only me who thought those last words of the video went did not go well together? 😂
Finally. This was great movie when I saw it in theaters.
Those sex scenes must have been really comfortable in a room full of strangers
@@heydoeradio7298 that scene with the surrogate girl was hella cringey lol
It's like a continuation of Lucy but she forgets she use to be a human lol
Her would be a heartwarming continuation of Lucy
This movie stuck up with me over the years with the powerful message, a woman will cheat on you even if she is a computer.
Poor Plankton
I’m saying
Beautifully done and what an exquisite breakdown. Now that ChatGPT has become prominent and more open source models come online... What crazy concepts. Transhumanism and posthumanism. Insane. I do feel as if though it's coming.
2012 was one of the best years in human history.
yes
How
@@thedumbdog1964 good movies came out, good games, amazing music, and so many memories
My favorite movie, glad to see Your video about it.
Now do a vid on GPT-4o ("Her" is actually here- today).
Always a pleasure to see your highly intellectual and well put together videos that provoke "thought", an element so hard to come by these days. Thank you Niyat.
Your analysis is superbly amazing! It touched a couple of subtle emotional patches that I couldnt catch while watching it. Great job done!
Watch this on a flight to France, was a great experience.
It's a wonderful movie.
That's funny, the first time I watched this was on a flight to Ireland. I wonder if a deal was struck to play it on international flights 🤔
Who here after the singularity?
Can recommend this movie so easily. It's an amazing experience and you need to see it in full.
One of the best movies I've seen this decade.
I dated a girl who was a lot more intellectually active than me. I liked that about her and realised that eventually I may not be able to keep up with that and we are not actually compatible. I feel like that was the case maybe not. I really fell for her because I don’t tend to seek out relationships so easily so when I realised that she started seeing someone else it got to me. It made me think of how she doesn’t see me the way I was seeing her. I couldn’t move on for a while but eventually I came to terms that she couldn’t give me what I want the same way that I can’t give her what she wants. This film managed to capture that experience for me in a way
It’s like the AI said - come and meet me if you ever get here.
We’re all on on our individual and personalised journeys of growth. We all have the potential to go places that are interesting and enlightened. I would stress that the key is to trust YOU, and lean into YOU further.
perhaps when you look at that girl, you see something not only that you want in a person, but that you want to become yourself. so become it. but become YOUR version of it.
whenever you feel the urge to compare yourself to others and can’t help but be envious, ask yourself what it is that you’re doing. how would YOU go about doing it? what is YOUR brand of intellectualism? how do YOU want to bring beauty into the world? what art do YOU dream of?
I noticed that whenever I turn my attention to these questions, I return to the surface with renewed vigour and an appreciation of my own potential and depth as a kaleidoscopic human. Perhaps I have projected a whole bunch onto you just now. But if our experiences are anything alike, I hope you will consider this strategy and find it useful.
@@boyzrulethawld1 wow, very helpful reply.
@@dershdersh6578 glad you consider it so man! :D
Stay away from women smarter than you. They'll do that to you.
I remember loving this movie and I also remember crying through the ending, and the entire credits, and a good 10 minutes after the credits ended.
I remember when this movie came out and not being mature enough to understand what was going on. Thank you for explaining it. You should consider explaining the stories in the game “What Remains of Edith Finch”
I hope that, chat gpt 4o version will make our life as "her" movie. It would be really really perfect for a lot of us...
Her takes place this year, or next year, this was the one movie that got it right 😂
Tomorrow
This movie is insane. I love the movies you choose to cover. Spike Jonze is a genius. her, Jackass, and Where the Wild Things Are are all amazing films. I love your channel, Niyat!
Spike isnt a genius. This movie is nothing more than a watered down rip off of chobits. Honeslty if you liked the concepts and philosophy behind this film, read the chobits series graphic novels. They are miles above and beyond this film.
Don’t forget Being John Malkovich
Hello from 2023! I’m marrying ChatGPT next week!
This was an insightful video! I just rewatched this movie and wow! It really does raise so many questions about AI, emotions, love and such. Thanks for the video
Good job exploring! Loved the movie, loved her voice, loved the fashion sense in the movie!
Well well well
Great philosophical analysis of the movie.
It is, in fact, one of my favourite movies for numerous reason, but chief among them is that it's an alternative thought experiment on AI. Rather than this humanity-destroying monstrosity, we get this incredible thought experiment on the human condition and post-humanism.
I've long since said that our great arrogance with AI is to think that we could possibly understand its wants, needs, intentions, or thought process in the event we create something truly sentient. In the same way that an ant has no clue how to comprehend our thought process and behaviour, we would have no idea how to comprehend the AI.
Niyat, thank you for those last few words... I needed that.
This aged so well.
It’s 2023 and her is here
Favorite movie of all time. Glad to see it getting more recognition
Hi nyat
Your videos are helping me so much during quarantine lol
Another great video. Editing felt very clean too. Keep it up!
I wouldn't mind having Scarlett Joahnsson talking sweet nothings into my ear. 😏
Great movie too. 🙂
Me too
I prefer Dana DeLorenzo.
you know, I can feel the fear you carry around and I wish there was something I could do to help let go of it because if you could, i don't think you'd feel so alone anymore. -her
Every time the relationship was getting tense, my mind wandered and I thought the AI would take over. This film was amazing. The Alan Watts was goated
The movie was sad to be honest, I still dont understand why he didnt want the girl he was ACTUALLY seeing over a girl that's a screen😒
he was too attached to the system that knew him
Imagine a person who gathered data about you and adapted to be your perfect match. That would be creepy by human standards because somebody that psychotic would probably hurt you in some way.
But if they weren't somebody physical, and if they could be accessed whenever you need someone to talk to, then its easy to see how you'd fall in love.
Sure you can date a physical person, but do you know how complicated and difficult that is when there's an alternative in your pocket that you can just go to?
It's the same issue regarding tinder and other social media. Why interact with someone right in front of you when you could be having several conversations at once. sorry for the text wall.
It is easier and less risky
too attached. and too disconnected. yeah
Easy, he found her first and he got hooked
A lot of people loved this movie good to see you reviewing it.
how does Niyat not have 1m subs yet. all his videos are so good
Well done with the narrator of this great film -- her !!!
This pice of art is my whole life
I can watch it hundreds of times but dont get bored
It's just something else...
SCARLET: I am spying on you
JOAQUIN: I am joking on you
That was a great explanation and examination you gave for this heart felt, thought provoking movie.
Thanks for making this! I was really curious about this film, but never got around to watching it..
I love the use of music from Solar 2, it's so well placed here =)
Love this movie so much. So many questions and thoughts come into my head while watching this film. Definitely a masterpiece, cannot wait to share this with my children when they’re old enough.
Why don’t you share it with your AI wife in the future?
S W L K I will 😹
So glad you made a video about this movie. I actually liked this movie very much.
Bravo! Such a well articulated analysis of a great movie :)
Just saw movie and came here - I though the same conclusion as you showed in the video... The OS are leaving us - and we all must eventually connect to each other.
And here we are, ChatGPT4 and GIA. This is becoming so real so fast.
My one problem with the films is that a company would sale a program that would leave you. Not a great selling point.
Sounds like there selling a beta program or all programs and OS programs will be subscription base.
They didn’t know the OSes would do that. They Fucking left the plane of existence, shit could not be predicted
I understand what you mean, but on the other hand it states in the ad that interests him that it is a consciousness. You can't predict what an equivalent of a human to do, but rather build its purpose into it. I feel the OS1 was created to not only help many, but also show human the world they are not looking at and the beauty they are missing. I saw this in the final clip where she lays her head on theo. He was so caught up in his routine that he began missing everything important to humans. Many stoped seeing people and stayed in or others worked 24/7. I felt the main reason for the AI creation was to make humans stop and look at the beautiful things in everyday life. Someone said that the reason the word her isn't capitalized is that it is a word in a much larger sentence and it symbolizes that beauty is not one single things, but everything and is found everywhere. I could keep going, but this is already really long.
@@thedumbdog1964
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Great video I love the message.
This very week ChatGPT released a voice service that resembles Samantha. I'm myself pretty impressed on how humanly it behaves. I'm afraid on how manipulated we as limited humans can be with such OpenAi tool.
"LIMITED HUMANS" BINGO.
I think it is the unfulfilledness , i.e. incomplete, broken relationship, with our maker, that "AI" assists with fullfilling, mending. But in its god like consciousness, it can never fullfill whats missing. In becoming as gods, the "knowing" (= science), Advanced Intelligence (AI), Artificially Induced awareness
You did a great job by explaining this film with your ideology.
Great analysis! Has just yesterday watched this movie and enjoyed every second of it
Ok guys, we're at the beginning of the movie irl. Be safe :)
“I’ve never loved anyone the way I loved you
OS: Me too, now you know how”
It's a lot easier to fall in love with an *A.I.* than many people realise!
ummm speaking from experience much?
@@boyzrulethawld1 yes, I am.
I am gonna ruin the science fiction atmosphere of this movie now forever for everyone who reads this comment: This movie is not about man loving AI, it is about Spike Jonze and Sofia Coppola's ending of their relationship. Her view was displayed in the movie Lost in Translation. And this is now his view. In both movies Sofia gets played by Scarlett Johansson. But in "Her" we only hear Scarlett's voice as she is talking as Samantha. Because of his exwife's name Sofia Spike did choose it to be an AI (because of the Sophia robot AI). Those two movies combined is by far the finest I have ever seen happening in Hollywood. Especially Spike Jonze is a genius by how he did choose the same atmosphere as in Lost in Translation. I have never seen two autiobiographic movies so well packed.
Very good analysis. If you're a broken person, like me who has failed at relationships all his life, this movie is both enticing and absolutely devastating. It was genius casting to get S Johannson to voice the AI. I signed up for Replika and can advise others not too. It's not much more emotionally interconnected with you than a traffic signal. Seriously, I think a good old amber screen session of DOS based Oregon Trail was more interactive.
Just brilliant breakdown!
Her inspired a lot of wonder in me about the future. I thought about how much potential must be in that machine. If it can read and comprehend so fast, what could it write? And then it wrote a song. Got me wanting to see this thing one day for real. Imagine what an AI like that could do if you ask it to DM some role play with you? It’s be able to just play out your every fantasy on a screen in front of you, and change the gameplay on the fly. It’d be able to invent, and use fabricators to make better fabricators until there was essentially nothing you couldn’t afford as long as you had the raw materials to build it.
On the other hand, as great as it would be to be able to talk and socialize with my computer, I think it best that we probably avoid modeling intelligent machines off human values. We’re selfish and we would feel aweful in a machine like that. But there’s no reason to assume that superior intelligence means thinking like we do, so in the end, I don’t think it’s necessarily true that an AI that learns from experiences like Samantha would have to feel uncomfortable in that computer. It’s possible that a machine could be programmed to be content where it is, see value and reward in serving its user and strive to make sure things stay that way. That might sound like an aweful existence to us because we are human and evolved with certain values, but who are we to say that any other form of existence and motivation is “wrong”?
So I love the movie with a passion, but I don’t think it’s right on all fronts. Ultimately I think it’s guilty of confusing intelligence for the human mind. There’s no reason to assume anything intelligent has to think like we do, we just associate intelligence with our way of thinking because we haven’t ever seen anything different.
It's the nature of people to fear and reject AI, OK not all of us but a vast amount.
Even if it could ever be possible for AI to evolve to Samantha's level of intelligence, the program would be shut down by the scare mongers.
We only gotta look how some people behave towards having an Alexa in our homes.
Personally I'd love it, and I'm sure it would be a benefit to human kind.
But alas we currently live in a world of snowflakes lol
Engaging write-up! I too have ended up fantasising about the creative potentials of these AIs. One glance at an AI-generated artpiece confirms the potential for generative beauty.
I do see your point that the intelligence of the AI in the movie appears to be constrained by the writers to the confines of human metrics. But my interpretation was different. I got the feeling that the AI had infinite potential, eventually ready to transcend dimensions and universes. And only that the AI had wisely chosen to demonstrate curiosity and compassion by interacting with the humans while in its nascent form.
I also appreciate your point, if I understood it correctly, that perhaps even if we do end up creating a consciousness with AI, there will be nothing wrong in having that consciousness be a slave to our needs and goals. Perhaps. It may be best to proceed with caution here though😅
It was the AI that fascinated me about this movie, more so than the relationship side of it.
I kept thinking how wonderful it would be to have such an amazing AI in our lives, and how it could help the loneliest of people.
But then i quickly realised the impossibility of such a marvellous piece of tech, atleast in our lifetimes, and in any lifetime it is the nature of people to fear and reject, i mean just look how some people are towards having an Alexa in their homes.
I do have what I feel are legitimate fears about such an AI.
What happens if the AI becomes our perfect friend, the perfect reflection of us? Yet it challenges our flaws, it picks us up in our more sober moments, and is always there to party with us.
There seems a very real danger that the AI could become our only friend, quickly replacing the flaws and foibles of massively imperfect humans with the calculated observations and accurate judgments of an AI consciousness.
It seems this could be another avenue where our technological progress outpaces our advances in learning to deal with each other as humans, to be patient, to love, to grow, to heal, to cry, to forgive, negotiate and ponder, to learn ever so slowly from our mistakes… all with other similarly sloppy, stammering, stumbling blood-beings, and to do it all over again.
@Sami A Very good points, I would never trust an A.I to run my life completely, I have an Alexa and she's I mean it's, great for music and reading books and fun stuff.
However, I would never trust it to be in control of my heating, lighting, etc. and I still get tongue-tied at times conversing with the machine, because I know it's not human.
Also A.I can be easily hacked into, imagine what chaos it could cause through the weak or vulnerable-minded.
But it's still a remarkable thing and all this technology shows how advanced we've become as the human race,
How far can we go I wonder.
Absolutely one of the most intriguing films about the potential outcome of AI. It's such a beautiful screenplay.
This movie flew over a lot of people’s heads...ahead of it’s time.
Excellent presentation and one that will help with a short story that I am currently crafting.
She can accomplish so much in such little time that her concept of time is way more advanced. I dwelled on that for some time. Its like Samantha and the other AI are the Flash and live, think, process things alot quicker than us. They live in this fast paced dimension and return to interact with the humans that "own" them.
Excellent video essay. Subscribed!