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Titan, I am 66 years old. I just retired from marching after 47 years in aerospace machining. I wish I was a younger man. I am in Connecticut. I am all in when it comes to machining almost all of the aerospace materials on turn/mill centers. Your shop looks like a very formidable place to work at. I enjoy watching your RUclips channel. Keep up the great work and may continued success be yours.
Does Connecticut have alot of aerospace work? I dont know much about that states companies i guess it not a widely discussed place but I do know some nearby states with alot of work. And can I ask when you first started seeing/using cnc machines? It seems the only older guys over 55 i meet who have worked on cnc for decades all were in the aerospace industry otherwise it seems like its only been the last 10 or so years they got into it. Hope you enjoy your retirement and can relax at your age!
@@daryllemire6503 Hi Daryl, there are still many aerospace manufacturing shops in Connecticut. I started with N/C machining in 1975. Cnc had not quite started yet, about a year later the first Cnc control came out. N/C machines utilized a Mylar tape running through a tape reader on the machine to run. Same as a Cnc reads a program, but just one edit required tremendous skill to duplicate the tape with a change. That’s how I learned programming.
@@allenbeaulieu7077 oh nice yeah I've seen old tapes before, I have had the privilege of knowing a few people now who had worked at mcdonald dougless before it was bought by boeing. I can't imagine machining parts with a piece of strip paper with holes punched out. Hard to believe that was so commen place only a few decades ago. So you were one of the fore fathers of cnc. Since the beginning of its time haha thats interesting what an evolution you have witnessed thats cool you got to see it at the beggining
@@allenbeaulieu7077 what always boggles my mind is how some of the passenger airplanes built in the 60s are still flying today and there is parts on them that weren't even done on NC. They were done by hand or manually and those planes have a better track record than boeings most recent plane. The stories some of the older guys have told me of how things used to be will never not be fascinating.
@@daryllemire6503 Absolutely, I’m one of those old guys. Ran engine lathes, Bridgeports, old Cincinnati millers, all kinds of machines that were manual. No knocked it out of the park production wise, but when you were familiar with the old manuals, you could hold tenths.
I always tell my guys you don't know the limit of a tool until you push past it! Keep the videos coming, I enjoy them and you're a great teacher.
Watching u for years. Don’t work close to your industry but your mindset and constraint drivers are 100% bang on. Love it.
0:40 RIP spindle :(
they dont care, they are youtubers. clicks make their money, not parts
Pushing the envelope is fun, but WOW, that spindle deflection in first full depth (:32 to :40 seconds in) slotting pass!!
If not new spindle bearings, at least new underwear lol.
@@Pow3llMorgan pucker factor grade
9.999 lol
Titan one thing ive always struggled at over the years is clamping force in a vice, we cant afford the shunk just because my company cant justify spending that much money on a vice, we do have kurt vice but in doubt i hit it with a dead blow to crank down on the part.... obviously thats wrong but could you make a video on how to determine the proper clamping force to hold various types of material in differnt situations? In previous videos You say that you crank down on the parts when roughing but when you finish the part you relieve the pressure and kiss the material, could you show examples please, Thank you buddy keep up the good work 👍
socket with a torque wrench.. also it's VISE.... hard jaws soft parts, soft jaws hard parts. check out torque ratings on some of the higher end vises, compare to what your needs are.. feeds and speeds..etc.. $.02.. just the tip though
If you ever get a new vice even if its Kurt the one piece of advice I can give you is never hit it with anything, once you start knocking the vices tighter you slowly ruin them and will have to continue. But get a torque wrench/tool and either use you current clamping force that you know works and adjust your wrench to that set amount or do a bit of googling and im sure you could find some numbers, but yeah torque tools work well for finding that exact sweet spot where you don't overtighten and cause issues with your holding or vice damage.
@@daryllemire6503 man i appreciate that advice! We really need 2 vice's for our mill but hopefully we will gwt one soo , ill definitely keep that in mind
Never tighten a vise with a hammer. Use gripper jaws program accordingly to put cutting force in a direction that's solid. Toward the fixed jaw. Use gripper jaws, serrated jaws, soft jaws to hold your parts. We never hammer on the vise and have no issues holding the parts. We have moved a few vises though so we hold wises with at least the 2 standard suds and usually a clamp on the back end as well. Aluminum jaws hold steel parts pretty well and we routinely hold on only .100" with gripper jaws.
Titan - great discussion! This of course applies to many fields, not just machining. I love your enthusiasm and energy you put into your videos. As a industrial trainer / evaluator of more than 30 years, you rate a 9+ in my book (truly outstanding). Well done good sir.
Holy spindle deflection, Batman! You may not be at the cutter's limits, but you're at the limits of the rigidity of the machine. And past it.
if you are talking about that full slot in the beginning, it seems more like deflection in toolholder than spindle as a whole
I don’t think I’ll ever get bored of listening to your words in this video Titan. You’re the greatest man!
Great video! I have found that the very best programmers and machinists/operators are those who started by running manual machines (lathes, vertical boring mills, turret lathes and milling machines) on the shop floor and having a good solid machining experience as the basic foundation!
I loved those old long bed LeBlond lathes, Bullard VTLs, Warner & Swasey Turret lathes and Kearney & Trecker and Cincinnati mills!
"you will never know everything" That is the key. never expect you know something and never think you dont. keep it open. and as far as different fields i currently am in what i classify "repair machining" i believe its an art in its own. but also went to school for tool and die and mold making but found the love for repair. so keep at it love the vids
Always appreciative. Much love and gratitude
Your enthusiasm is contagious! Machining is fun!
A salute to you Titan… decades of knowledge in one video that you share that no value can be put on… your knowledge and decades of knowledge that was thought to you ands your attitude falls nothing short of monumental to be humble enough to just share it all selflessly. Thanks …. Boom …. Making manufacturing great in The Great USA … and sharing it with everyone who can watch it anywhere in the world…
Best motivational speech ever about machining. Awesome channel.
"You'll never know everything"....................................words to remember for sure. There is no such thing as perfection. Came pretty darn close on a couple of jobs.Machinist for 30 years. Absolutely loved it! All aspects of it. Working the problem. Trying to find the most efficient solution to that problem. Filing that process away. Putting it in my personal toolbox ,ready for the next more challenging complex job. 99.999% of the time I enjoyed going to work everyday. Do something you love and you'll never work another day in your life. Remember those words too.......do something you love and you'll never work a day in your life. Be humble because you'll never know everything. The instant you do ,you've blown it!
Although I work in the healthcare, i'm watching your videos and i learned a lot. Not just about CNC. Hello from Serbia bro...
Hello Bojan… That’s Great. Thanks
Love your videos Titan! I just rented a shop I have 1 mill and 1 lathe and am working on getting a CNC machine. Trying to do my part to bring manufacturing back to America.
From my small experience in machining, i would say Rigidity (spindle, machine, tool length and engage ratio) is the factor that makes the largest impact on speed. Of course cutter selection, strategies and toolpaths play a role, but if you start trembling, you can never reduce that machine time. Love machining and this channel.
Another inspirational message. Keep speaking success and how to achieve it. The folks that believe we're entitled to failure, need to believe success is achievable and within each of us.
What you say in regards to MMR is so bang on. The last aerospace and job shop I worked at got alot of work that other shops just didn't have the machine size to do the work and I dont believe anyone there understood like I did that yes we don't have alot of competition on the larger parts we were doing but if we sold off the 1 old slow cumbersome machine we had and invested in a new large horizontal of the same size, yeah it would cost a million dollars but our ability to do things in half or in some cases 1/8 of the current time was available on nearly every part we ran on atleast 2 of our machines. Its hard to convey as a employee sometimes that yes we are still making money and getting the work doing things the way we used to but if we put the money up, and yeah its a new house worth of money we could do those same parts in a insane amount of less time, otherwise we can wait till someone else with the machine offers to take on that job and I can watch as you as the owner stand around saying that there is no way they are making money and that they are doing it while paying people in peanuts. The amount of work being given to the same compabies over and over with no understanding of how much faster and even more accurate the work could be done is astonishing. Your very spot on about why people do things the way they used to. The same argument can be said for the amount of manuel work that I constantly see people arguing can't be done as efficiently on cnc. Manuel machining is dead in the water
Next year i’ll start my study where in the week i work 4 days and go to school one day. A colleague of mine is sadly leaving so a different colleague takes over his machine. Guess who’s taking over his machine? Yea, and its the biggest haas vmc (vf5) in the company. So awesome!
Out of curiosity: the first machining in this video, this is actually too much for the spindle/chuck, isnt it? You can see the chuck wobbeling left and right, where the spindle doesnt move at all.
That’s one hell of a machine & tooling! Great photography too! I’m thinking that machining at that extent the whole shop hears when something goes wrong !
Thank you Titan for pointing out the variables. I have a couple of young trainees that love your videos, but can't understand why we can't run as fast as you. I have explained that our company buys accupro end mills and cheap tool holders and we are running on old vf2 mills. 1 guy tried to send a half inch endmill in a solid holder through 1018 at about 15 grand and 200 ipm....the sound was scary 🤣. There homework this week will be to watch this video and listen closely to everything you was pointing out. I love their enthusiasm and drive. Just got to ground them in knowledge.
You sound like an awesome leader to have around. Good luck to your trainees and yourself.
Hell yeah brother that is seriously gnarly
Wow. OK. You're really getting on with it! Impressive...
I started CNC machining on a hobby level DIY machine 14 years ago and only a few years later I started my own business. Since a year I am part-time teaching CNC programmers and operators how to optimize their workflow. They do ask me questions that I do not now and have to investigate myself. I like this because that means I keep learning, keep upgrading my skill and I keep others what I have learned.
Does that mean I am better than those people. NO. It just means that I can afford to do this without needing to run production on my (our) machine. I get 1 day a week to "play around", teach and learn.
It’s so cool that RUclips lets me know the second you post. They know what I like watching lol also my dream future is to own a couple dozen machines so I can make parts I want to make.
Manufacture my own products. Maybe become a job shop because that’s what I’ve been wanting to do but that’s for future me to decide.
Thanks to you Titan, I am going to buy a Haas machine instead of a frame off restored air-cooled Porsche. I am going to master those variables on my own spindles while I learn, and produce a fishing reel that will be superior to all others. You did that to me!
just loved it
That speech pumped me up so much I bought a 150lb piece of 4140 just to turn it in dust.
Got to be honest Titan, your vids make me want to move to Flower mound and learn CNC!
Last year we machined castings made of manganese steel. This material was so hard, that the tool holder including the mill bit broke off. The holder was an HSK 100. Fortunately the machine was not damaged. After a heat treatment of the other castings it was much easier to cut and the new holder withstood. Only the indexable inserts we had to change every few hours.
The customer paid a lot of money, on machining hour costs 300 Euros. But he was happy that we were able to complete the job in the calculated time.
It would take me 5 months to find free time to beg the programmers, managers, the boss and the owner to let me try and open up the books to find the parameters of the machines, then calculate the grip of the vice, then find a pure bred stock that isnt filth sold cheaply as its advertised, then find an endmill to sacrifice to try a thing like that.
Best i can do is increase a program by double feeds and speeds depending on which tool its in and what its doing, if i have free time to check what is being done on the cnc machine.
I have to find a new job or make peace with mediocrity.
Your videos keep my spirits up. Thank you Titans, all of you.
I've been machine for a year and it's the first trade where I wanna know more and watch and grow
dear sir, I really loved your message .
when I was an apprentice I was roughing so quick I couldn't program quick enough to keep up with the next op, we did design program set up and machining
You are one of the only people who I feel like has as much (or more) enthusiasm for machining as I do, but I've only been in this trade for about two years. I literally dream about it almost every night, and getting into it has brought my entire life into focus. I spend all day programming and running CNC stuff and then come home and watch RUclips videos and dive deeper into it. Thank you for taking the incredible might you have and putting it towards the promotion of this trade, as it feels crazy to me that more people aren't as fired up as you are, as this is THE FUTURE right in front of us and right in our hands. Just have to reach out and grab it.
I'm the same. I also love Fusion.. until i discovered Fusion i didn't like programming as much as i do now. Fusion is somewhat unpredictable and granular, not as simple as SolidCAM, but it's really satisfying.
Titan what kind of toolpath 3/4 end mill you used on mastercam?
woh that tool holder is flexing
The company I use to work for was scared of going over 10% spindle load and whenever I'd do personal projects, at 50+ spindle load, they'd think I was insane
I'm quite sad to have failed conventional machining so bad, I had to take a whole other path away from the serious CNC programming part. Never touched MasterCam, but did do a whole G-code program. Your videos are quite satisfying to see. (to those asking yes I did a basic CNC class and breezed through it doing manual G-code, but conventional machining in the whole program holds you back a year if you fail one of three parts, I failed 2)
Don't give up, if your not working yet dont worry about schooling, it is good to go to school because it can help you learn things possibly faster but honestly for the most part schooling is useless and don't think you need schooling before you try and get a job. Diploma and certificates really don't mean anything in this industry. Dont give up and don't let a lack of schooling stop you from working in this industry
lol I might be one of the ones you were talking about at 1:00 but don't take it personal I'm just busting balls. Honestly I've learned a few things from this channel I use day to day that made my life easier or more productive, I wouldn't keep watching otherwise.
good work
@0:36 was the tool head oscillating due to cycloidal path ?or wavering under pressure?
Jesus did that spindle vibrate savagely in that opening scene?
I love my job I wish they had machines that could do what you do. I have to watch my spindle load every time I try to be aggressive with my tool paths.
I think you said Boom a lot . BOOM!
hello, can you show me how to make a program and how to balance the tools and techniques, thanks
Titan, I couldn't help but notice that when you were milling that deep slot after the ramp cut the spindle was actually flexing. I apprenticed in Westinghouse in the early 70s. The first machine I ran there was a Cincinnati mill with a double articulating head that was purchased by the company in 1916. and still held the numbers with no problem. My question is how long does a modern C.N.C.machine last at the pace and loads of today's production?
I can ansewer that, it depends alot on what brand/ where the machines parts were sources and also the assembly quality. Cnc machines can last just as long as manuel machines aside from the electronics. Also the machines layout has alot to do with the longevity of the machine, some of the not so newer direct drive spindle vmc s that are 5 axis may encounter bending and twisting over time depending on what its used for because the spindle is not held as rigid as say a horizontal boring machine. I've ran many makes but I had a haas vf3 and they are not the most amazing quality but I ran that thing insanely hard and that machine is probably 20 years old now and can still hold .0005 or better tolerances. And I've stalled the spindle in tools steel. Alot of cnc machines can last decades fine. I've never see a toshiba horizontal ever lose its accurcay even after moving across countries and having the casting get twisted. Those machines just keep running. Dont know if that helps but ya
where would be a good start for learning / being trained on cnc machines?
great channel
are most of your runs for mold pattern production?
Hello , i am an CNC Worker in Germany. How long is the life of the tool when you cutting llike this ? ist this worthwhile in mass produktion ? is that the sound of the machine or you cooling with air ? those grooves you cut we do with wirl movements that the tool only cuts 0.3 mm per round wich improves the toll stability. seems crazy to think that the tool cut to 10 of this parts straight. but i think for our spindle the load is to much to cut like this.
Does this job pay well. Im in my last year of school, and this job does look interesting
THE T TEAM, Titan Hannibal putting the ultimate PLAN together & B.A Barry doesn't like flying unlike those CHIPS & Howling Mad Tyson is making those executions CRAZY
And last the FACE Scott impressing the MAIN SCREEN
Titan just keep on BOOMING on
LOL! Alpha Mike Foxtrot!!!!
Love It Brother
Im NOT getting a mohawk
@@barrysetzer You would look cool with a mohawk. It's worth serious consideration.
BOOOM!
Lindo TRABALHO to estudando esta area quero ser um bom assim
Sorry but I can't hear correctly the name of the mechanical process that Titan said at 5:00 (Safe-lah?). Can you tell me what it is called?
Safe-Lock
is MMPM milimeter per minute? If yes, why did you use MMPM instead of Vf?
I love the high MRR but I wonder the cost of machine maintenance from those super high deflection passes!
I know they work very closely with kennametal and they use a special coolant. I believe that kennametal is telling him speeds and feeds and I would hope with all the high dollar equipment and engineers, that they took unnecessary machine wear into their equation, at least I would think so, but who knows.
Hiii sir., I am from India, I am working as a CNC machinist, I have one doubt please sir give me the solution. I am make the slot millng process in VMC . BUT unable to control the taper issue in the slot .how to reduce that issue sir?
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I've noticed that a lot of your videos have the end mill spinning clockwise and also moving clockwise around the part. When I was in Machine Shop class we would have our tool spinning counterclockwise but still traveling clockwise around the part, in order to cut against the feed, not with the feed.
How are your machines able to cut against the feed?
You maybe use in working conventional milling sir. Its called CLIMB machining,if you do it in conventional mill its harder to control but in cnc its no problem. And the cut is cleaner. Any way i have not yet seen endmil that designed for counter clockwise
@@Ram-pb2zp run spindle counterclockwise to add material... aditive manufacturing 101
We may not have the same skill, but we have the same passion... I think you should hire me, I am from the Philippines... 😁
He's not a metal machinist. He's a metal masochist. 😂
Whoooooo!!!
Absolutely right you have a machine with x amount of horsepower you have tools that need to run at a certain speed and feed and chip pur tooth run that machine to the max horsepower you can get out of it not once in awhile but all the time!
Boom
As a programmer, I'm told all the time to do it the way it's always been done. I hate it! My ideas may cost money up front, but we'd save a fortune in future work. Even 3d toolpaths are frowned upon. 30+ years in the industry and I'm thinking of getting out. I'm tired of the same old shit, same old tools and same old machines.
0:34-0:45 really looks like the spindle is about to puke lol.
0:39 look at how the spindle is twisting and bending. Don't worry, that 3\4 inch tool wont break, the machine will break first.
Feeling jealous about so deep cuts... If I will try to do something so deep with my lathe's driven tool, a mill will just slide out of the collet, as we use those typical driven toolholders with thin hexagonal collet nuts instead of ER type nuts. And the wrench is just popping out of the nut, if you try to tighten it any harder. Also, all this stuff vibrates in some kind...
If you are worried about tools pulling out of collets, take a look at securgrip from rego-fix, uses weldon flat to lock the tool in the collet, leaving it no chance of pulling out. Also IIRC ER collet nuts and hexagonal collet nuts are somewhat exchengeable. And maybe try to suit the tools/feeds/speeds to the machine, not the other way around.
High precision machine dmg Mori
7:18 - 8:30 this is gospel
Retired from machining, not marching! Lol.
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This is so american, thumbs up, for being your own biggest fan.
I find it unbelievable that alot of this machining is done without any coolant.
How is this possible?
I would have thought coolant would increase tool life a few times over ?
I'm a retired manual machinist and I feel like I'm missing something?
How is it possible that coolant is not considered?
And when I see sparks coming off a tool and still no coolant it just does my head in ?
Can someone help me out ?
Stu
No coolant for video purposes i think
High speed machine dmg Mori
Judging by the way the cutter and its support wobble from 0' 33", I would say you are murdering the machine but not the material, contrary to what you were saying a few seconds before. Nevertheless, some pretty wild machining operations are made in this video.
High tech machine dmg Mori
My jr high machine shop smell curled my lip
he said "material" they way cleveland brown does
what cutter do you use to hog out all the vowels in your pronunciation of 'material'?
Your moms front teeth
That was rude and disrespectful. Be ashamed and repent.
@@opendstudio7141 its called banter. Lighten up. If Titan is offended then sure. But he has a sense of humor and hopefully had a chuckle.
I still can't get my parts correct. (About a 50% success)
52100 (ks-4051) heat treated material
Ring .360 long
Can't hold a .00002 parallel between id and od.
It's killing me. We have found no patterns or correlations between anything that makes them good or bad
Gotta love aerospace
What is with heat? Is this not hot.
is the wobbling for purpose ? or is it because you go so deep atone ? thank you i think it was 2nd scene
Yeah. It's called adaptive clearing I think. And it means that the whole half of the cutter isn't touching. Less than half cutter engagement is better.
That's the tool holder flexing due to cutting forces. Extremely bad for the machine, especially spindle bearings. Not anything anyone would do unless you had a free machine and for entertainment purposes.
I mean sec 36, seems like the Head is wabbelig
@@lukaslapnik5839 so it’s super Bad ?
@@papa4614 basically yes.
That first setup with that endmill plowing through that steel in the vices was very impressive but definitely beyond the spindle capabilities for whatever machine was doing the cutting. You could see the tool holder was getting ready to be plucked out of the spindle when the tool was fully engaged. I think you narrowly escaped the pull stud being plucked out of the tulip. Impressive for sure but on the edge of disaster.
You have to test your limits to exceed at the level this guy grows if you don't run hard and fast you won't know how hard or fast you can run right. I love the way Titan thinks he's awesome positive going huge places in life!
@@chipmiller9074 I agree he pushes as hard as possible right up to the edge. And his passion for the trade is unmatched. I don't think most people understand how important the machine trade is to every day life so its great that he is bringing the attention it deserves.
Ok. Now Make some huge cuts with a tiny tool making a tiny part.
Is there supposed to be that shimmy in the drill @0:33 ?
I don't give a damn about MMR at my current job to be honest. I am severely underpaid, no matter how I improve things my boss pockets everything, I get dissed if I get a pto longer than 2 days in a row, screamed at for picking and getting approved a specific week for vacation 2 months in advance, getting forced to cancel it 2 days before it started and, I get sneered at for having a week of medical leave in 2 years going to work withouth fail.
Hey titan a guy I know is taking your academy, and he showed me your shop etiquette list. I have a bone to pick with 1 of those things on the list although everything else i agree with strongly.
What is this no practical jokes in the workplace? I get no physical horseplay but cmon no jokes at work?
There's no way you live by that rule right? You seem like a fun guy who can get stuff done but still have some laughs at work tell me you didn't write that list.
Also for outliers in this industry they may have to avoid the rule of not running a machine untill someone else shows them how, but on the point of safety and not destroying a machine I get where yoh were going with that. But cmon no cracking jokes aslong as everyone is producing and no one gets hurt? Nothing funner than pointing the big shop fans on your homie in the winter and watching him trip out for a few minutes on why there's a breeze and he's cold.
Or my favorite when you got someone who is still got a lot to learn but there doing well and they pull a finished part of the machine and set it down and you walk up and just look at them wide eyed and be like "what did you do" and watch them have a momentary heart attack before you say just kidding your doing good, gotta keep you on your toes. Cmon man its about killing it and murderers machining times while also having everyone laugh atleast once a day. You gotta drive each other to out compete everyone else but smile while doing it I refuse to believe your against laughs in the workplace. That type of work environment is never good for anyone.
Episode of stroke my ego lol. You did good son. Dad is proud of you. Now move on lol
My mill uses R8 collets ,m
If you do everything he says and expect great money, more than what the other machinists at the shop who do the minimum requirements without learning anything new year after year then don't even apply at a union shop. In a union shop the only thing that matter is seniority, that is how long you've been working there, there is no incentive to work harder or faster and in a lot of cases you will be punished for working too fast because it makes everyone else look bad in their minds even though in reality those people are the ones responsible for making themselves look bad not you.
You are going way too fast causing the spindle to wobble
Bullshit. It`s the exact toolpath, they want it to be.
You are creating black/blue chips. You ARE warping the material! You are full of...