What is this part used for? I'll never get tired of watching the insane pieces y'all make. Also I'm pretty sure those chips were more blue than Barry's and he's gotta be a bit jealous. 😂
Drilling is always faster than helical interpolating a hole with an endmill. If you have a large core hole or a deep one, you want to drill it out first.
well as we where taught my seco when i was still in school. the coolent cools down the chip really really fast witch makes the outer part of it harder/crispier witch helps breaking the chip much more likely to happen and also easier
Be honest, you released the Kraken _because you could._ Which is not the same as _because you had no other way._ But yes, that was uhmm... interesting. Ok, nerve wracking actually! I am happy that all GoPros appear to have survived intact.
По всей видимости при пятиосной обработке вы использовали функцию TRAORI, коллеги. А так же функцию оптимизации обработки(G802). И - самая любимая часть видео - это «Выпускайте Кракена!»
does heat ever become a factor to cause issues in the final dimensions ? I saw you are putting a lot of heat in the chips which were beautifu btw, but there has to be some heat in the part. Would love to see a flir camera image during the process.
Why do you rotate the part simultaneously with the movement of the tool path? I've never seen this being done at the shops I've been associated with. Is it more efficient? Accurate? Or does it just look really cool. :D
Hay Titans, love your vids even if I am not an engineer and just some dude, but could you sometimes explain what these parts are, they look real interesting but have no idea of its function.
i just have one question on all these videos: why not use coolant? as i've come to understand it, there isnt really any cons to using coolant to extend the tool-life i could be wrong though, but our shop always uses coolant (although we dont machine parts, only test samples)
for real, @9:22 i was just waiting for the Airwolf theme to drop... now i am a little bit disappointed :( but nice blue chips there. edit: and about the Zombie Mill -> didn't Berry just recently break one or two on that giant valve housing ?
You said you used mastercam deburr tool path, with an endmill. Mastercam gives me a warning saying the debur toolpath only supports ball or tapered endmills. Can you explain how you used and endmill with what looks like a curve or swarf toolpath?
maybe because its a demonstration piece, showing off the 90mm drill. ideally they should have been made whilst the ring was rough to create a flat to drill / mill perpendicular to
You show one off crazy complex parts but I don't believe you've had a video going over the obstacles that people run into after running 1k,10k,100k part count and how to fix or spot those problems before starting or bidding a job. What steps you have to take to hold tight tolerances, tricks to make sure part catchers work perfectly after a qty.100k. Tricks to separate a couple hundred tiny little parts out of a chip bucket because the parts didn't fall in the parts catcher after a night of running. The little things that can make or brake profit on big jobs because the big jobs are the ones everyone is trying to get and profit is always tight to stay competitive. It could be with small or large parts, robotically feed or bar feed parts. What is the frequency that you spot check parts as they are running. Whatever you can think of would be appreciated. I wouldn't even care if it was stupid tricks like the double back tap trick that everyone knows about or duct tape tricks. Whatever your guys have seen in the past.
I might be late to the party, but why aren't they using coolant when Machining this part? Wouldn't that help the surface finish in The lubricity Help tool life😊
Depending on the material and the coating on the endmills, you may actually get better tool life without coolant. But it's very situational. In their case, it's so the viewers can see
@@vanguard6937 not in this alloy steel though. You're better off with coolant for part and tool cooling, lubricity, and most importantly for this part, chip evacuation. Endmills have a hard time evacuating chips from deeper pocketing applications like this. Without coolant or at least air blast, you start to regurgitate these hard, wonky chips and you increase the likelihood of damaging your tool prematurely. Normally a pretty solid argument for milling dry is doing external side milling on high temp alloys. There's no chip evacuation problems and there's a section of the endmill in the cut generating a TON of heat that then comes out of the cut and immediately starts to cool down. If you use coolant, it cools down more rapidly and will cause thermal shock, causing premature failure of your endmill. This is only viable if your tool can handle the heat in the first place...which these endmills certainly can. You're right for the viewing, though for sure.
My approach to editing. The insert drill would not have been needed, the milling cutter from Min 1:19 could also have made this hole by 8:35 One tool change too many and the drill also has its price
So does the extra machine time required to helical interpolate a hole. A drilling operation will always be faster. If you're making a one-off part and don't care about machine time, run an endmill for everything. With simultaneous 5-axis machines and increasingly more sophisticated CAM, there's not a whole lot an endmill can't physically do. If you are running production and have a lot of holes, big holes, or deep holes, drilling is the way to go. With enough technology a machining center could make any round part, but you'd still be better off making it in a lathe.
@@koenig can be double the time. It gets a LOT worse when you need to pocket 4000lbs of Titanium for an airplane fuselage. That's why people like Ingersoll make BIG machines to take big cuts.
They all make chips. Sometimes the chips don't break apart nicely. A drill is continuously in the cut and so you must use cutting parameters, coolant, and chip forming geometry to cause them to break. An endmill is in and out of the cut and therefore cannot generate continuous chip. However, the small slivers that endmills generate can be detrimental and difficult to evacuate in deeper pockets like this. You don't want to recut these slivers and leaving them in the pocket retains a lot of heat.
Drill open that pocket and throw that harvi back to the store and tell them boys to stop making you look like a newbie. This is not saving money or time.
Not many people seem to understand that anymore. With all this machine and CAM technology, you physically CAN make most features with an endmill. but just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I would like to see people understand there is a time and a place; use the right tool for the job.
LOL release the KRAKEN 🤣 All of your work looks as if Michelangelo himself came in and sculpted it himself. But I think you have better surface finishes lol. Beautiful work as always. Never boring videos from you guys. Even though I do not have a machine this big I always walk away learning something new. Much love and gratitude
“You simply cant kill this tool” Barry: Hold my chatter
What is this part used for? I'll never get tired of watching the insane pieces y'all make. Also I'm pretty sure those chips were more blue than Barry's and he's gotta be a bit jealous. 😂
Showing the spindle load for the drill would have been cool.
@@Roberty98 No shit. The spindle load on the drill has nothing to do with the milling.
Crazy milling steel faster than I used to mill aluminum 20 years ago.
Incredible video production! this is my first Titans of CNC Machine video and I love it!
The power of the machinist supports the power of the machine. Well done Mr. Jesse, you are the best.🎉
What is that part? It's amazing.
This is the first I've seen a presentation from this dude. Loved it 100%.
Why would you use the massive drill separately? Why is it better than using the same tools as the pockets?
It's not really, looks alot cooler tho lol
Specific bore size? The other holes were pilot holes, hogged out to final dimensions, whereas these were for a shaft?
Drilling is always faster than helical interpolating a hole with an endmill. If you have a large core hole or a deep one, you want to drill it out first.
11:04 speak of the devil, the kraken has been released
This is super impressive, those speeds and feeds are insane.
What is is it?
That's Gonna be one heck of a wagon wheel...
That was great work Jess. Great editing too. Enjoyed that video from start to finish.
Man I wish my dad could've seen this. Awesome 👍🤘
LOL @ the mag base with the GoPro becoming so spiky
the "release the kraken" soundbite made me lol 😂
well as we where taught my seco when i was still in school. the coolent cools down the chip really really fast witch makes the outer part of it harder/crispier witch helps breaking the chip much more likely to happen and also easier
Exactly. It's like hardening steel without tempering. It makes the chip hard and brittle and much more likely to break apart due to it's own movement.
Be honest, you released the Kraken _because you could._ Which is not the same as _because you had no other way._
But yes, that was uhmm... interesting. Ok, nerve wracking actually! I am happy that all GoPros appear to have survived intact.
I would not risk deforming the workpiece with a huge tool at this late stage. Great show, not a great strategy.
По всей видимости при пятиосной обработке вы использовали функцию TRAORI, коллеги.
А так же функцию оптимизации обработки(G802).
И - самая любимая часть видео - это «Выпускайте Кракена!»
даа, диаметр 90 не шутки)
Cleaning up the chips after a job like this must be an acquired skill
If I got a CNC Machine, how easy is it to find and generate business flow?
I’d love to watch a video on Siemens control! You guys Rock! Pardon, I mean Chip! Uh, well. You guys Rough!
does heat ever become a factor to cause issues in the final dimensions ? I saw you are putting a lot of heat in the chips which were beautifu btw, but there has to be some heat in the part. Would love to see a flir camera image during the process.
How you decide to use kraken against previous one inch endmill?
Why do you rotate the part simultaneously with the movement of the tool path?
I've never seen this being done at the shops I've been associated with.
Is it more efficient? Accurate? Or does it just look really cool. :D
Looks cool too
@@MAINTMAN73 True
Little bit of all 3 lol.
answr me 1 question, although you have 5 axis mc a part can not be cut similtaneous in 5 axis?
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Won't save my rotting soul~
Give me purple or give me 💀
Where is STRAW ?
All I see is purple
I’ve pulled magenta while turning manually, wish I kept those chips
Freaking Sick Content........ Machining at it's best! 👊👌👍
Even before starting the milling processes, would like to know what the part is and what does it go to
Id like to know how you guys learned how to do this. Is there a school you went to?.
Tool path genius !
While running the Kraken dry on something like this, do you ever get tool thermal-expansion oversized holes?
You certainly would not when appropriately running coolant. Coolant just doesn't make for good videos.
There are a lot of advertisements for DN equipment and Kennametal
That's the slickest 12 bar soap holder I've ever seen.
Hay Titans, love your vids even if I am not an engineer and just some dude, but could you sometimes explain what these parts are, they look real interesting but have no idea of its function.
What material is this part? Idk if it was specified
Those Harvi mills are just ridiculous. For $400 you get an endmill that will make you $40,000. It's mind-boggling.
I mean it’s attached to a 500k 5 axis machine lol
Machine himself up a toof brush.
BREATH TAKING
This is what we're here for
Mind blowing.
chip helicopter o death
helicopter helicopter
Big Yuge Beautiful Blue Chips ....How long did this take for your step? Looks like a few weeks on the whole part through 3-4 machines
😯where is it going?
i just have one question on all these videos: why not use coolant?
as i've come to understand it, there isnt really any cons to using coolant to extend the tool-life
i could be wrong though, but our shop always uses coolant (although we dont machine parts, only test samples)
It's just for videoing. U couldn't see anything that was happening if coolant was on
ballet of machinery, wow, wow, wow.
Is that an atomic core?
how much did the part weigh after all that machining?
Love the deburr payh
how do you spin the c axis and mill at the same time? what toolpath is best to do this?
I really am curious what this part is even for
for real, @9:22 i was just waiting for the Airwolf theme to drop...
now i am a little bit disappointed :(
but nice blue chips there.
edit: and about the Zombie Mill -> didn't Berry just recently break one or two on that giant valve housing ?
Thats one sexy coffee grinder.
You said you used mastercam deburr tool path, with an endmill. Mastercam gives me a warning saying the debur toolpath only supports ball or tapered endmills. Can you explain how you used and endmill with what looks like a curve or swarf toolpath?
U lie to it lol.
Why did you do those holes at the end rather than mill them out with the pockets?
maybe because its a demonstration piece, showing off the 90mm drill. ideally they should have been made whilst the ring was rough to create a flat to drill / mill perpendicular to
What post processor do you use to make the 5-axis toolpaths
I'd like to see this in fusion 360 I love all Titans videos grate milling
why did you drill after finishing?
You show one off crazy complex parts but I don't believe you've had a video going over the obstacles that people run into after running 1k,10k,100k part count and how to fix or spot those problems before starting or bidding a job. What steps you have to take to hold tight tolerances, tricks to make sure part catchers work perfectly after a qty.100k. Tricks to separate a couple hundred tiny little parts out of a chip bucket because the parts didn't fall in the parts catcher after a night of running. The little things that can make or brake profit on big jobs because the big jobs are the ones everyone is trying to get and profit is always tight to stay competitive. It could be with small or large parts, robotically feed or bar feed parts. What is the frequency that you spot check parts as they are running. Whatever you can think of would be appreciated. I wouldn't even care if it was stupid tricks like the double back tap trick that everyone knows about or duct tape tricks. Whatever your guys have seen in the past.
10:20 yeah im amazed at that machine's rigidity. what the fk lmao
Is that model on the academy?
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Nice 👍
Fascinating! Thank you for the education ❤❤❤
What's it for and how much does it cost?? 😳
I just drove by your building
I might be late to the party, but why aren't they using coolant when Machining this part? Wouldn't that help the surface finish in The lubricity Help tool life😊
So viewers can see
Depending on the material and the coating on the endmills, you may actually get better tool life without coolant. But it's very situational. In their case, it's so the viewers can see
@@vanguard6937 not in this alloy steel though. You're better off with coolant for part and tool cooling, lubricity, and most importantly for this part, chip evacuation. Endmills have a hard time evacuating chips from deeper pocketing applications like this. Without coolant or at least air blast, you start to regurgitate these hard, wonky chips and you increase the likelihood of damaging your tool prematurely.
Normally a pretty solid argument for milling dry is doing external side milling on high temp alloys. There's no chip evacuation problems and there's a section of the endmill in the cut generating a TON of heat that then comes out of the cut and immediately starts to cool down. If you use coolant, it cools down more rapidly and will cause thermal shock, causing premature failure of your endmill. This is only viable if your tool can handle the heat in the first place...which these endmills certainly can.
You're right for the viewing, though for sure.
My approach to editing. The insert drill would not have been needed, the milling cutter from Min 1:19 could also have made this hole by 8:35 One tool change too many and the drill also has its price
So does the extra machine time required to helical interpolate a hole. A drilling operation will always be faster. If you're making a one-off part and don't care about machine time, run an endmill for everything. With simultaneous 5-axis machines and increasingly more sophisticated CAM, there's not a whole lot an endmill can't physically do.
If you are running production and have a lot of holes, big holes, or deep holes, drilling is the way to go.
With enough technology a machining center could make any round part, but you'd still be better off making it in a lathe.
Yeah, that swarf off the big drill will take the paint off the walls and ruin the windows in the machine.
If you know that it would take stress off the tool with some coolant why did you not use some???
blocks the video
What is the part used for/application?
Bicycle wheel
I think you're guys channel is great, but can you please take it easy on the HGH?
I couldn't take the pressure of machining that part , no scrap
Why doesn't he run coolant?
To show you whats going on. They’ve stated it many other videos.
Are capstan lathes a thing of the past?
18 views in 1 minute? Think you fell off
Great video man! Hopefully I can do what you do! Currently I use a Haas VF2 at my high school
It’s wild you’re allowed to make an atomic bomb on youtube.
how much cost?
4500$ just for the tool
@@Luckieoutdoors omg
Í mean the machine is room sized, so...:D
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for my own health i would not use that kraken drill... Just a turbo milling plate on spiral would makes it... but it won't be that spectacular.
It would also take a lot longer.
@@thatdrillguy7889 how long is a lot? 2 min? Not pushing the machine into that effort? I don't think it's worth it
@@koenig can be double the time. It gets a LOT worse when you need to pocket 4000lbs of Titanium for an airplane fuselage. That's why people like Ingersoll make BIG machines to take big cuts.
Rookie pseudo-machinist here. Why do some tools make chips and other make the long strips like the Kraken?
It's explained in the video...
They all make chips. Sometimes the chips don't break apart nicely. A drill is continuously in the cut and so you must use cutting parameters, coolant, and chip forming geometry to cause them to break. An endmill is in and out of the cut and therefore cannot generate continuous chip. However, the small slivers that endmills generate can be detrimental and difficult to evacuate in deeper pockets like this. You don't want to recut these slivers and leaving them in the pocket retains a lot of heat.
That big drill was totally pointless. Could have just used that same rougher and finish tool you used on the rectangular pockets.
Drill open that pocket and throw that harvi back to the store and tell them boys to stop making you look like a newbie. This is not saving money or time.
Not many people seem to understand that anymore. With all this machine and CAM technology, you physically CAN make most features with an endmill. but just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
I would like to see people understand there is a time and a place; use the right tool for the job.
Solo video inutili.
HMMM..I THINK THE EGYPTIAN STATUES WAS MADE THIS WAY...THEY ARE EXACTLY SYMETRICAL LEFT AND RIGHT
Sorry. Very poor machining.
why? could you please explain it to me!?!
Salt truck
LOL release the KRAKEN 🤣 All of your work looks as if Michelangelo himself came in and sculpted it himself. But I think you have better surface finishes lol. Beautiful work as always. Never boring videos from you guys. Even though I do not have a machine this big I always walk away learning something new. Much love and gratitude
The stuff you guys make is amazing
Awesome machining Jessie 💯 this part came out looking so nice!
More from siemens pls. I started work on it.
you should use u drill to make that holes for roughing. Using endmill and plunging with helical toolpath wasn`t efficient.
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This is so impressive. Thanks T!
so you all do make parts. What's this part for?
What was the part milled, I'm curious? What is it used for?
Camera magnets making art out of those chips
Wicked machining!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😀
Very impressive. What is that part anyways?
1.8" pilot hole is wild