CNC Crashes, Breaking Tools, & Outtakes

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2019
  • Crashing CNC machines and breaking tools is a nightmare! The only thing that gets us through is being able to share these with you for a good laugh. This is what happens in a shop with lots of training classes, interns, and tool testing speeds and feeds. If you're having a rough day, pucker up and enjoy. At least you're not alone! #facepalm
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  • @danielstewart3507
    @danielstewart3507 4 года назад +1378

    Dial indicators are apparently consumable items.

    • @Vibycko
      @Vibycko 4 года назад +76

      I legit cant stop laughing at this

    • @skm9420
      @skm9420 4 года назад +73

      I cried laughing at the fast z probe

    • @aykfc
      @aykfc 4 года назад +6

      They are now anyways

    • @martylawson1638
      @martylawson1638 4 года назад +16

      Well the ceramic sleeve on the probe IS there to protect the mechanism and they're cheaper than a new dial, but not much...

    • @r.savage1283
      @r.savage1283 4 года назад +133

      That dial indicator going at 6000 rpm. That was funny.

  • @colesutra
    @colesutra 4 года назад +241

    There's only one thing as dangerous as an inexperienced machinist who's still learning: a competent machinist who's gotten complacent.

    • @zigzagkill8153
      @zigzagkill8153 3 года назад +14

      Reading a lot of these "replies" you are spot on.
      20 year machinist, still go thru the same steps as day one. I have saved companies hundreds of thousands of dollars, thousands of hours, and most likely a couple lives here and there...
      Egotistical confidence only survives by luck, and only serves the lucky - Until it doesn't.

    • @sebastiancamarena2824
      @sebastiancamarena2824 3 года назад +8

      damn I just started operating and got comfortable. realised I am barely at the beginning. I will remember this and apply it to myself

    • @mikeparish6629
      @mikeparish6629 2 года назад

      He can fuck it up.

    • @stephweasenforth7891
      @stephweasenforth7891 Год назад +1

      Tbh, I’ve got more hope for a new operator that’ll admit they still have things to learn

    • @colesutra
      @colesutra Год назад

      @@stephweasenforth7891 Teach 'em a few of these phrases:
      "Be honest with yourself about when you know enough to get yourself in trouble, but not enough to know how to get yourself out of it."
      "There are no stupid questions, just stupid mistakes that could have been avoided."
      "Look for the simple answer to what looks like a complex problem first. You'll usually save yourself time, and make the engineers look dumb."
      "The fastest way to slow a shop down is by hurrying up." (Or, if a supervisor/manager is in earshot: "The fastest way to drive scrap rate up is by hurrying up.")
      "Have your camera ready and scope out the emergency exits if the new guy comes in and says 'No smoke, no glory'. Things will be spectacular either way things go."
      If they get any of them straight away, they already know. If they take them to heart, they have a long future ahead of them. If they don't get it or don't want to listen, keep an eye on them, and have the popcorn ready.

  • @A1BASE
    @A1BASE 4 года назад +745

    Oooh. Those poor little dial indicators. They didn’t deserve that.

    • @pavelstoikov3780
      @pavelstoikov3780 4 года назад +4

      what is the price of this dial indicators ? so painful to watch

    • @leviwaite1136
      @leviwaite1136 4 года назад +18

      The one when the whole thing spun dial spun got me

    • @allancnc
      @allancnc 4 года назад +5

      @@pavelstoikov3780 3-400 $

    • @pavelstoikov3780
      @pavelstoikov3780 4 года назад

      @@allancnc auch ty for the info 👍

    • @allancnc
      @allancnc 4 года назад

      @@pavelstoikov3780 Don't understand what you mean???

  • @superdrummergaming
    @superdrummergaming 4 года назад +143

    Note to self: Don't spin up the dial indicators.

    • @kleetus92
      @kleetus92 4 года назад +3

      that one probably got me the most!

    • @EvilGTV
      @EvilGTV 3 года назад +10

      And if you're on a manual machine without guarding, don't exceed the rated rpm by double on those slidy edge finders. The spring gets really long, right before the bottom half launches into the wall and leaves a 1/4" dent in the plaster. Probably would have gone through if it hadn't hit at a stud. Glad it hit the wall and not me, think it might have bruised...

    • @theginganinjaofficial
      @theginganinjaofficial 3 года назад

      @@EvilGTV always wondered about that, never had spares to try.

    • @Cris-fd5kd
      @Cris-fd5kd 3 года назад

      That’s the funniest of them all🤣

  • @grantlockridge9354
    @grantlockridge9354 4 года назад +667

    The best part is hearing the cursing in the background lol

    • @joshuawentworth7426
      @joshuawentworth7426 4 года назад +23

      "Did I not probe z? I didn't probe z."

    • @Tjita1
      @Tjita1 4 года назад +8

      *BANG* "beeep"

    • @williamknifeman69
      @williamknifeman69 4 года назад +1

      Hahaha *bang* beep hahahaha

    • @rzerizrz
      @rzerizrz 4 года назад +4

      @@joshuawentworth7426 oh yeah, best thing is, when CNC want to drill using the TCH probe, when controlling go apeshit :D

    • @DanKoning777
      @DanKoning777 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, the level of moral excellence, virtue, and integrity is clear.
      Theres zero mystery why our government [U.S.] is corrupt.

  • @ReactionTime344
    @ReactionTime344 4 года назад +549

    I used to watch these and not feel anything. Now that I have my own machine, these fails hurt!

    • @thunderthormx
      @thunderthormx 4 года назад +29

      My wife never understands how painful watching a crash is 😂

    • @jasonruch3529
      @jasonruch3529 4 года назад +2

      Totally!! OUUUUCHYYYYY!

    • @MagnusMacdonald
      @MagnusMacdonald 4 года назад +14

      100% this. Had a lower-end cnc machine and enjoyed John's first blooper video. Recently bought a Kitamura ...and this new blooper video was just stressful.

    • @matthewsmith8573
      @matthewsmith8573 4 года назад +2

      Some of those are pretty painful, but I had to laugh at some anyway. Like their previous videos, it'll make it hard to find the courage to hit "run" on my next cnc job.

    • @TimeWasted8675309
      @TimeWasted8675309 4 года назад +3

      Literally had to stop the video and catch my breath.

  • @PK-wo4vo
    @PK-wo4vo 4 года назад +59

    These videos make me appreciate good ole’ manual machines
    Breaking taps on them feels more personal

  • @mystifiedoni377
    @mystifiedoni377 4 года назад +82

    Am I bad for immediately thinking how I can save the part?
    "Just give it a new face and a suspiciously large chamfer and everything's fine"

  • @Maltanx
    @Maltanx 4 года назад +292

    I LOVE how at 2:34 the dial indicator gets closer to the piece very slowly and then suddenly it starts spinning like crazy.
    My favorite clip!

    • @gearloose703
      @gearloose703 4 года назад +19

      Wasn't expecting that!

    • @joesosnowski7568
      @joesosnowski7568 4 года назад +15

      Same. That was hilarious 😂👌

    • @Rx7man
      @Rx7man 4 года назад +26

      that was my fave too.. just because it was the last thing you'd expect... the bezel flying off was icing on the cake

    • @Malidictus
      @Malidictus 4 года назад +3

      Easily the highlight of the video, yes, simply for being so surreal. So many of those "clock things" were hurt in this video it makes me feel bad :)

    • @blue03r6
      @blue03r6 4 года назад +6

      haha one or two too many zeros in that spindle speed

  • @bigshantolifting
    @bigshantolifting 4 года назад +386

    “Why is that tool 32 wtf” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @xConundrumx
      @xConundrumx 4 года назад +41

      Well it's not anymore, it's now tool 16 or maybe tool 7.5. Not sure could not see how much of it was left after it broke.

    • @ryanmccord3716
      @ryanmccord3716 4 года назад +19

      I hate when the machine starts making judgment calls 😂

    • @seandavis9908
      @seandavis9908 3 года назад +2

      @@ryanmccord3716 I know right? Had exactly the same happen the other day, it pulled a facemill instead of an endmill which could have been disastrous if I wasn't standing there. It'll take time to rebuild the trust 😂

  • @x2malandy
    @x2malandy 4 года назад +17

    I'm 70. Seen a birds eye view of most of these mishaps. Every time I saw a indicator in this video I knew it was going to be toast. Thanks for sharing NYC CNC.

  • @Xendrius
    @Xendrius 3 года назад +29

    0:52 "why is that tool 32?" shrug, guess we will never know.

  • @HustleMuscleGhias
    @HustleMuscleGhias 4 года назад +309

    "I lied. I picked the wrong hole." At least I'm not the only one with that problem.

    • @warped2875
      @warped2875 4 года назад +5

      I did that a few times too, ...but we always eventually broke off the relationship. (badump bap!)

    • @Backyardmech1
      @Backyardmech1 4 года назад +3

      😂 I always said it was a mistake when it wasn’t.

    • @mikeyholterfield9019
      @mikeyholterfield9019 3 года назад

      Always remember, safety first 👍😎

    • @TheFluffyWendigo
      @TheFluffyWendigo 2 года назад

      Picked the wrong hole. Yeah my ex wife said that quite a bit

  • @longrangehunter6393
    @longrangehunter6393 4 года назад +445

    “It worked in the simulation”

    • @brandons9138
      @brandons9138 4 года назад +10

      The thing a lot of folks don't realize is that the simulation isn't actually running the G code that will be used in the machine. If you have a crappy post processor you'll get crappy code. At my shop we are using Esprit, and just yesterday I found a few major errors in the post for the job I was programming. Nothing that would crash the machine, but the simulation worked perfectly.

    • @sethlolli2744
      @sethlolli2744 4 года назад +4

      @@brandons9138 Why not run the actual G code through something like Vericut? If setup properly, it should simulate any crash that is about to take place on the machine.

    • @brandons9138
      @brandons9138 4 года назад +4

      @@sethlolli2744 If your shop has Vericut, that's exactly what you should do. Most shops don't have Vericut, they just rely on the CAM package simulation and the set up guys to avoid crashes.

    • @sethlolli2744
      @sethlolli2744 4 года назад +1

      @@brandons9138 Good point, I didn't mention that not every shop on earth is going to have every resource like verification software.

    • @workpeaceful9066
      @workpeaceful9066 4 года назад

      LOL that truth

  • @karlomoharic3992
    @karlomoharic3992 4 года назад +11

    Love the fact that you are not afraid to share your mistakes with the world :) .
    But I must say that most of this mistakes are caused by not having proper shop discipline.
    This days that is something that often isn't properly covered during initial training.
    Here are a few general recommendations for anyone interested:
    When using 3d tasters/probes , when you get close to any object ALWAYS put your feed multiplication indicator to the lowest setting ,especially if you are going to constantly switch between computer and machine. It's always better to have to make few extra handwheel turns then to break the tip. Also notice that as you break this tips you are also causing damage to the device itself (in terms of calibration).
    Learn how to program on the machine using GUI (most machines have them this days). I see a lot of machinist that want to do everything on the computer , but the thing is sometimes that requires a lot of fiddling about. At the same a time lot of things can be easily done directly on the machine using predefined cycles , while at the same time minimizing risk of error do to simple and straightforward way of creating part program. You can also save a lot of time this way.
    If you use G-code learn how to create and use point tables.
    It's always good idea to have a notebook (no matter how much experience you have) where for a given part you write all the necessary information like: list and order of operations , tools used together with starting feeds and speeds , where will you place your workpoint, dimensions of your stock ,ect... Don't be that genius that "remembers everything" and then ends up making a ton of really stupid mistakes. As alternative you can use something like notepad but there is something about having a actual notebook where you can write things down.
    User guides and manuals exist with reason . "Real" man don't need them , but smart ones do and we use them all the time.
    If you are a younger guy , it pays to listen to advice from an older guy.
    Double check your work zero. After you take the zero simply jog the probe into x=0 , y=0 , z=0 position to check if your zero is were it needs to be.
    TRIPLE check your programs (especially clearance distance and feed ) and always run simulation before execution.
    If you are making bunch of same parts and you are using rough cut stock (that for example varies in length by a few mm) remember: the SMALLEST stock part is used to make the first part , at the same time dimensions of the LARGEST stock part are used to define your stock part in software.
    If you are not sure about speeds , feeds , depth of cut, ect.... remember slower and shallower is better then fast and deep to start with.
    When possible test your program on a scrap piece of metal.
    Make one part program at the time.
    Run one machine at the time , unless you are making a series of parts using an already tested program.
    On initial program run , Single Block Mode is your friend.Also if you are the guy that programmed the machine then you know where the tool needs to go ,
    therefore you should make use of position display on the control.
    "I've seen other guys do it " or "It worked the last time" are stupid excuses for stupid ideas.
    Every machine has a set of limitations in terms of max rpm , max machining power, max part weight (also take a weight of holding fixture into account) , max travel , max tool length , max tool diameter and max tool weight. Learn what they are and abide by them.
    A good machinist enforces a shop discipline on himself no matter what , laziness leads to mistakes and mistakes cost money.

  • @luke3275
    @luke3275 3 года назад +5

    My high school has two haas cnc machines and this year I took the CIM class to learn how to use them. Very first time I ran my own code, I sent the bit soaring down into the vice. My instructor simply laughed and said, thanks, I now have a new “do not do this” story😂

  • @BroadslideDrift
    @BroadslideDrift 4 года назад +466

    2:35 Ahhh running your haimer without coolant... rookie mistake

    • @TandaMadison
      @TandaMadison 4 года назад +25

      I think it would have been fine if that coolant nozzle hadn't hit it.

    • @martin09091989
      @martin09091989 4 года назад +5

      @@TandaMadison yea, would have be´n a nice G load test. xD

    • @majorva2653
      @majorva2653 4 года назад +6

      renishaw works perfectly fine without coolant

    • @thalassomania
      @thalassomania 4 года назад +3

      Fucking killed me

    • @khalidhebshi5318
      @khalidhebshi5318 4 года назад

      I feel like someone will get whooshed

  • @daan3898
    @daan3898 4 года назад +152

    having worked in a machine shop, and my heart can not take this, everytime it skips 3 beats.

    • @GeneralChangFromDanang
      @GeneralChangFromDanang 4 года назад +8

      Rest assured, most of these were easily preventable.

    • @blue03r6
      @blue03r6 4 года назад +9

      the gd programmer where I worked would rapid down in Z to about ten thou to the top of the part and he knew it pissed me off. I would hit start and run lol

    • @eliju420
      @eliju420 4 года назад +3

      @@blue03r6 That's just bad programming, especially for a fresh part.

    • @milesv917
      @milesv917 4 года назад +2

      @@blue03r6 A good programmer can do that and not crash..... might make the operator shit thier pants. But the point still stands.

    • @blue03r6
      @blue03r6 4 года назад

      @@milesv917 well in my opinion that's too much trust in the tool path program. It's not like you have the time to analyze the tool path when it's done to look for errors. And it does happen. I was cutting simple rings on a wood overhead router with a 8" long 1" bull nose endmill and it went about 12" the took a 90 degree turn right through the part 3 inches deep. So I never trust anything. And hated his extreme rapid down to the parts. I always keep my hand on the stop button lol
      Also, one of the router we use is a Haas. I have to make sure its at full high on z or else it will rapid over in x and y and run the tool straight through a part of I run a new program. All the other machines we have go back up in z first to clear the part before they move in x or y. So that's another reason I don't like that he did it.

  • @GregSr
    @GregSr 4 года назад +16

    I've been in CNC drilling and routing of PCB's since 1980 as a field service / applications engineer. I've seen just about every way a machine can destroy a circuit board. Usually, I could figure out what went wrong. The problem I didn't catch right away was the spindle was turning backwards. PCB drilling spindles are 3 phase air bearing motors that spin up to 180,000 RPM. In this case, the wiring in the connector was incorrect. Depending on the application, some drilling will work even when reversed. The hole quality will be poor and the drill point will wear quickly. Of course, the solution to a reversed rotation is to swap any two of the three phases going to that spindle.

  • @radchad992
    @radchad992 3 года назад +11

    This made me feel a hundred times better about my rookie moments

  • @robertsomerville5377
    @robertsomerville5377 4 года назад +276

    Disclaimer : Lots of tools were hurt in the making of this video.

    • @SomeTechGuy666
      @SomeTechGuy666 4 года назад +12

      They be looking for a sale on dial indicators ! The lifespan of a dial indicator is not long in that shop ! Buy bulk !

    • @harindugamlath
      @harindugamlath 4 года назад +2

      And a lot of haimer gauges. They broke a lot.

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 года назад +4

      And that is why I shop at Costco for Haimers, endmills and vises and always puchase the two-pallet pack shrink-wrapped together.

    • @robertsomerville5377
      @robertsomerville5377 4 года назад +1

      @@BrilliantDesignOnline sometimes accidents happen . But if you know how much it is going to cost you , you're going to take more care .
      My business owns a CNC mill with 2000mm travel in X BT50 spindle , when you do something wrong on this it costs plenty. I recently had to machine a large stainless steel plate ( cost of plate over $3000 ). I selected the wrong bore diameter & machined it oversize . A lot of Tig wire later & the job was fixed , ready to be machined to the correct size.
      My facing cutter has 12 tips @ $34 each. The tips are double octogong ,so you get 16 cutting edges & are cost effective as long as you never crash it.

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 года назад +1

      @@robertsomerville5377 When you're dealing with that powerful and expensive of a machine and stock you should have a check list, I would imagine like a pilot flying in airliner so there are no mistakes. Along with quadruple pre-checks and dry runs.

  • @aintit
    @aintit 4 года назад +77

    I can only imagine how painful it would be to watch a $50 end mill crash into the side of a part that had been running for several hours and was almost done.

    • @valorie1559
      @valorie1559 3 года назад +2

      As a machinist...... It sucks especially when its on a amazing finish that get dented from a crash

    • @AKAtheA
      @AKAtheA 3 года назад +9

      then again it could be crashing into the $2k vice, borking the $10k+ spindle, so, all things considered...

    • @just_Lee2
      @just_Lee2 Год назад +3

      well, from my own experience I can say that the sorrow is so great that you cannot get mad, you only say 'Fuck'

  • @TheMadManPlace
    @TheMadManPlace 3 года назад +6

    The big boss THOUGHT he knew how to make good fixtures.
    So we had a pool to bet on how far the first part to fail would fly for each new one.
    He was EVER SO SLIGHTLY PISSED OFF when he found out about it.

  • @jacobhosler1982
    @jacobhosler1982 4 года назад +25

    7:07 did Sonic just collect a coin lol😂😂😂😂

  • @ChristopherHorton90
    @ChristopherHorton90 4 года назад +97

    I love when John slides in and hits the E-Stop! What a move!

    • @ProfRonconi
      @ProfRonconi 4 года назад +4

      Yeah! Like a fencing master!

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 года назад +2

      Touche!

    • @BrianBuonomo
      @BrianBuonomo 4 года назад +9

      He glided in for the save like any great teacher would. slick moves Mr. Saunders... Mr. Pete would be proud.....

    • @rcmike09
      @rcmike09 4 года назад +1

      Reading this as I watched it. Haha

    • @NGC1433
      @NGC1433 3 года назад +6

      I like how with a genuine childish curiosity guys were spectating before the estop was engaged.

  • @dylansmith3989
    @dylansmith3989 4 года назад +267

    I'm sure most of these could be solved by tightening the vices up a touch more 😂

    • @BPond7
      @BPond7 4 года назад +10

      Dylan Smith I was thinking the same thing! It was driving me nuts!

    • @jr540123
      @jr540123 4 года назад +7

      Trying to cu the fuckin moon with a small enough of a lip to make the clean up op ten seconds long.

    • @igneous061
      @igneous061 4 года назад +5

      Reef on it untill it squeaka and back it up half a turn

    • @stexes007
      @stexes007 4 года назад +9

      and most of these just by paying attention to the first engagement and just then speeding up to 100%...

    • @nico3064
      @nico3064 4 года назад +1

      Or by just fix it deeper 😅. Yes you waste more material but that's totally worth it .... At least imo 😂

  • @sferg9582
    @sferg9582 4 года назад +18

    I'm having heart attacks at every one of these crashes. Dang. Sooooooooo hard to watch. Having been a machinist tool maker for 47 years, this is painful.

  • @restothis917
    @restothis917 3 года назад

    I am so happy I found this channel. I miss working in a CNC shop. I ran everything from VF-2 to 10, SL-20s and 30s, Mori Seiki Integrex. But probably my favorite was an old OKK VM5III. It was clunky, the program was weird and backward, all of the warnings said "keep your handy parts away from moving." but it ran like a tank. Ran 100s of thousands of parts through that machine without having to replace anything.

  • @mikesmachining8826
    @mikesmachining8826 4 года назад +184

    Your 3 friends: single block, rapid override, distance to go.

    • @guethao396
      @guethao396 4 года назад +2

      Mike's Machining yes. I’ve learned that from my mistakes.

    • @who_nextwitthaplex6507
      @who_nextwitthaplex6507 4 года назад +1

      Single block is my best friend!!!😂😂👌👌

    • @SirFlibbertyJibbit
      @SirFlibbertyJibbit 4 года назад +11

      crazy how people just leave it on 100% rapid on a first off. the clip at 6:15, dont know if they held the feed there or it was end of block, but if i had stopped it there i would have put the rapid to 5%, took my feed down too and checked my distance to go. The clip after is worse. just ploughed straight down at 100%

    • @who_nextwitthaplex6507
      @who_nextwitthaplex6507 4 года назад +5

      @@SirFlibbertyJibbit ive actually crashed because i was rushing to finish a setup for night shift and go home...
      It was a friday.
      But then again who hasn't hu 😂😂

    • @SirFlibbertyJibbit
      @SirFlibbertyJibbit 4 года назад +2

      @@who_nextwitthaplex6507 It's definitely happened to everyone at some point. You end up drilling it into your head after a couple of mess ups. One of the best ways to learn unfortunately is making these mistakes. I'm sure after that, you sacrificed a couple minutes of your Friday getting the set up right? :)

  • @wlbob007
    @wlbob007 4 года назад +14

    The simplicity of "that's beautiful" when that tap snaps way down in that bore... without a doubt the best one.

    • @GeorgeTsiros
      @GeorgeTsiros 2 года назад +1

      For real... he said it so plainly, so simply and yet his voice, to me at least, sounded like he was _absolutely livid_

  • @haleymarquis2745
    @haleymarquis2745 4 года назад +13

    I love how they’re able to laugh at it! Teaches the interns and students that it’s ok to make mistakes and they’ll learn from it. Not all teachers are like that at machining companies.

    • @NeroticNoob
      @NeroticNoob Год назад

      I agree. I tend to beat myself up when it happens to me though. If I know what went wrong it's one thing, but when it's an error that I can figure out it really bothers me. My first shop was toxic. If you scrapped a part or busted tooling the lead engineer and owner would give you a lot of shit over it. That was over 20 years ago. This is why I NEVER fuck with someone when it happens to them.

  • @muddydave01
    @muddydave01 3 года назад +1

    Never used one in my life but this brought much joy. Dad was a fitter/turner/machinist instrument maker back when the CNC machines used punch tape. Used to come home swearing about people who left out lines and crashed the tool post into the job.

  • @TheZzziggy
    @TheZzziggy 4 года назад +26

    2:36 - favorite! "Dials? Where we are going, we don't need dials!"

  • @lerkzor
    @lerkzor 4 года назад +25

    The most impressive errors in this video are when the part you are manufacturing decides to F off to the 5th dimension at something like Mach .79
    Thanks for sharing your moments of pain, we are all human & can all relate.

    • @jabruli
      @jabruli 3 года назад +1

      Only by seeing that you get a feeling for what immense amounts of forces these machines and tools undergo while machining and how far material sciences have come in the last century

    • @darthrevan2063
      @darthrevan2063 3 года назад

      Now that’s funny.

  • @nickhartman6372
    @nickhartman6372 Год назад

    I am new to machining, was part time for about 3 months up until about a week ago, when I accepted a full time offer. Today I made my first mistake: I didn't double check that the vice was clamped tight enough on the part, so of course it went flying and sounded like a gun shot....ended up breaking the tool. I feel so damn bad about this for some reason .....I know mistakes are learning opportunities, but I feel like not clamping down a vice enough is something not even a rookie would do.
    However, watching these types of videos at least helps put my mind at ease a bit. I will make damn sure never to let a mistake like this happen again! First job I've ever had that I truly enjoy...maybe that's why I am being so hard on myself. Thank you for posting this video!

  • @bnoops123
    @bnoops123 4 года назад +10

    What's up with the two guys watching the machine crash but just wait around until someone else comes to hit the big red button

  • @brokenacoustic
    @brokenacoustic 4 года назад +141

    Someone send this to AvE so he doesnt feel so bad lol

    • @jr540123
      @jr540123 4 года назад +3

      His was only on fire once

  • @Peter_Riis_DK
    @Peter_Riis_DK 4 года назад +142

    Would be a lot more interesting if there were a short explanation as to why or how (sh)it happened.
    The spinning Haimer was surprising and therefore hilarious all the same.

    • @JamesEsau
      @JamesEsau 4 года назад +8

      They've got a video that goes more in-depth into that one from a few months back
      Edit: Here it is: ruclips.net/video/V8tQsXszzm8/видео.html

    • @alexpinson7759
      @alexpinson7759 4 года назад +50

      That one was my fault :( touchscreen wasn't working, went to click to change step increment and the mouse slid off the slanted tormach desk and misclicked start spindle. Now EVERY time I put the Haimer in RPM gets set to zero lol

    • @Peter_Riis_DK
      @Peter_Riis_DK 4 года назад +4

      @@alexpinson7759
      Good idea. And LOL it was.
      Thanks for the explanation.

    • @lucasimark7992
      @lucasimark7992 4 года назад +6

      Well thats what you get for having a cnc without PHISICAL BUTTONS

    • @gearloose703
      @gearloose703 4 года назад +4

      How many haimers have been destroyed in your shop?

  • @HFMudd
    @HFMudd 4 года назад +1

    Loved the "presentation"! All of those things I live in abject fear of whenever I use our 770. Thanks for the Crash refresher.

  • @daldrete01
    @daldrete01 3 года назад +3

    you know that an engineer is actually doing stuff when he starts cursing like a sailor

  • @flatsurfaces1913
    @flatsurfaces1913 4 года назад +65

    You really like holding things really high in a vice, with only 3-8mm holding it on, and then making really aggressive fast cuts.

    • @Christianfranceepic
      @Christianfranceepic 3 года назад +5

      Its the risk that makes machining exciting

    • @astriknon
      @astriknon 3 года назад +3

      It's funny how many times I did some sketchy work holding and it worked out great. I leave thinking it had no problem staying in place. Yet there is part of me wondering if it was just hanging on by a thread and I get insanely lucky.

    • @safechameleon7656
      @safechameleon7656 3 года назад

      And going full nuts without proving the program. Had someone chase me out the shop with a cnc lathe by trying to chuck fuck using a huge id tool. It was like an old washing machine

  • @tylerhensley2312
    @tylerhensley2312 4 года назад +26

    The thing I learned from this is that work holding is as crucial as any other part.

    • @mgmjferg89
      @mgmjferg89 4 года назад

      They have great tools for the job but aren't getting something right. The material needs to be fairly square for those toothed self centering vises. Also who knows how flat the parts are sitting in the z nesting surface, or how tight/overtight they got the workpiece.

    • @tylerhensley2312
      @tylerhensley2312 4 года назад +3

      @@mgmjferg89 I wasn't blaming them for anything but was simply stating that I underestimated the requirements put on work holding.

  • @kadenwatt2033
    @kadenwatt2033 4 года назад +1

    The more of these I watch, the more I love the Bridgeports and South Bend lathes I work with. Power feed and DRO is as fancy as it gets. However less to break, too.

  • @wheatongraham335
    @wheatongraham335 4 года назад +5

    Bruh I actually flitched thinking the workpeices were gonna fly at me lol. The lathe ones hurt the worst

  • @DoubleD132
    @DoubleD132 4 года назад +10

    After battling with my bridgeport for the past 3 weeks.....this makes me feel so much better

  • @jakestein8516
    @jakestein8516 4 года назад +30

    It's hard to watch when you know something is about to happen. Like a horror film.

    • @offcenterconcepthaus
      @offcenterconcepthaus 4 года назад

      Oh yeah -- but I might be PTSD'd. CRIIIINNNNGGGE.

    • @zacharylawson8932
      @zacharylawson8932 4 года назад +5

      what would be real fun is if they make a mystery video where they mix in normal shots so you don't know if it ends well or in catastrophe

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 года назад

      DEFINITELY should have had some JAWS shark attack prelude music on some of these.
      I never understand why the swimmers don't know what is coming...I mean, I can hear the music, can't they?

  • @stevesmith2226
    @stevesmith2226 3 года назад

    This is the most real life shop video I’ve ever seen. Language and smart ass comments. I truly loved watching these crashes knowing I didn’t do it. Lol

  • @AnyFactor
    @AnyFactor 3 года назад

    This is my most favourite cnc related video in all of RUclips

  • @joshuawentworth7426
    @joshuawentworth7426 4 года назад +43

    My reaction at:
    5:40- That's a really nice cut.
    5:41- That's a really expensive cut.

    • @extec101
      @extec101 3 года назад

      the one after sounds like a warning to whats coming.

  • @brandonmccaskey9337
    @brandonmccaskey9337 4 года назад +15

    Dude when the haimer started spinning I lost it

  • @ThatBum42
    @ThatBum42 4 года назад +36

    6:18 when the bass drops

    • @akronimm862
      @akronimm862 4 года назад

      Justyn why does this not have more likes

  • @Everett-xe3eg
    @Everett-xe3eg 2 года назад

    The dials ramming into the part explode so satisfyingly nice.

  • @CrashingCarbide
    @CrashingCarbide 4 года назад +8

    I reflexively reached for the E Stop on a few of those. In my living room. On the couch.

  • @LesNewell
    @LesNewell 4 года назад +3

    Watching your Haimer incidents makes me feel much better about the the exiting time I had the other day with a Renishaw probe when the machine decided to repeatedly pound the probe into the work. I just stood there in stunned disbelief until the sound of shattered stylus bits ricocheting off the ceiling woke me up. I have to say those old MP3 probes can take a beating.

  • @CharlesHuse
    @CharlesHuse 3 года назад +1

    Mill: *launches a 2 lb block of steel across the shop*
    Lathe: "You only missed him by about 6 inches. But, he's gonna reset and try again. You'll get 'em next time."

  • @legionjames1822
    @legionjames1822 4 года назад +1

    Oh man i was laughing watching this. The beeped out cursing was icing on the cake. Thanks for showing these rookie mistakes, it was brave to do so.

  • @jonchristiannybakke7036
    @jonchristiannybakke7036 4 года назад +8

    When doing dynamic milling, it is often recomended using endmills with the most cuttingedges and agressiv spiral angel. However, this creates more liftingforce on your part, pulling the parts lose from the vise. And if you run without coolant, the endmill can come lose from the heat and pull itself down. I think normal endmills, good coolant and slowing down works better over time

    • @littletimmy364
      @littletimmy364 Год назад +2

      Amen, the unnecessary high feed rates in these videos... I mean, what did you do when you destroy your part and your tool? You didn't earn a dime buddy.

  • @dominic6634
    @dominic6634 4 года назад +56

    I always avoid shops that say they never screw up.

    • @hockeygoalie94
      @hockeygoalie94 4 года назад +12

      Dominic you should avoid shops the screw up this much too

    • @dominic6634
      @dominic6634 4 года назад +8

      @@hockeygoalie94 lol agreed. I've worked in both

    • @Luk_452
      @Luk_452 3 года назад

      Is this amount of mistakes normal? I'm a CNC operator but in stone industry, and we have maybe 1 mistake every 600-800 jobs. I would need years of recording every job to create clip like this...

    • @ScootyPuff_Jr
      @ScootyPuff_Jr 3 года назад +1

      @@Luk_452 As far as I'm aware, the shop in these videos is mostly a self taught guy who wanted to make his own parts, and ended up moving into a job shop type business. Obviously they have experience now,but I bet a lot of their stuff is figuring out how to machine odd things and doing one-offs.

    • @Luk_452
      @Luk_452 3 года назад +1

      @@ScootyPuff_Jr ah... this makes a lot of sense now. I don’t know this channel,RUclips recommended and it’s only video I’ve seen from NYC CNC. Thanks for taking time to explain this. Have a nice day!

  • @scottgary3008
    @scottgary3008 4 года назад

    These things happen when you are setting up new parts. Love the honesty you share in this video!!

    • @littletimmy364
      @littletimmy364 Год назад

      In my company, when we are setting the new part, we always lower our feed rate to the minimum so that we can see the configuration of a tool. Some of those stuff in that video are very expensive and mistakes like that are avoidable just by slowing things down and watching.

  • @notyou1877
    @notyou1877 4 года назад

    THANK YOU!
    I make good living fixing your screwups.
    Please don't stop doing what you're doing.

  • @BSSchumacher
    @BSSchumacher 4 года назад +4

    The spinning dial also killed me :D

  • @bostondan77
    @bostondan77 4 года назад +30

    1. You’re making lots of different parts (1st runs), there’s going to be more crashes. 2. You record everything, so it’ll yeah, lots of crashes

  • @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy
    @HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy 4 года назад

    anyone feel all tense watching this? Great video...just the run of the mill "when's it going to happen" anxiety hahah

  • @SgtSeth
    @SgtSeth 3 года назад

    This is awesome to see, as I have had my fair share of accidents on lathes and mills. The most memorable one being a gear blank. 3x15" thick on a Haas CNC lathe. I was doing a test run at slow speed to ensure everything was setup properly. The tool crept forward as expected, all was going well. Then, at the last moment, as this 3x15 disk of steel was spinning at something along the lines of 3000 rpms, the cutting tool slams into the blank. The blank is ripped from the jaws, bounces off the inside bottom, then off the back side and slams into the safety glass window. The impact is so hard, it breaks 2 of the 3 panes of glass and knocks the door off the slide. In that fraction of a second, I hit the emergency stop and almost shit myself.
    That freaked me out so bad, I didnt run those parts for another 2 or 3 months. Mind you, I had only been doing CNC lathe work for maybe 6 months at the time. I might have 2 solid years of experience on CNC lathes/mills to date.

  • @ClockwerkIndustries
    @ClockwerkIndustries 4 года назад +3

    Ironically were just making more content here hahaha man who else was clenched up the whole time? John was like a damn ninja into camera frame to hit that Estop! that was freaking impressive! lol

  • @brocksomich6523
    @brocksomich6523 4 года назад +5

    I *bleep*ing laugh everytime i hear a swear word bleeped out. Love it

  • @jeremyyprotzman6582
    @jeremyyprotzman6582 4 года назад

    "Aggressive corner" LMAO! Not many videos make me sick to my stomach but this one gets me, nice job fellas.

  • @adam7419
    @adam7419 3 года назад +2

    it's 3 in the morning and I am tearing up from laughing. thank you.

  • @beliasphyre3497
    @beliasphyre3497 3 года назад +4

    I didn't understand it when I was in school, but now I do, why my teacher was so paranoid and strict about checking every line of code a student wanted to run on his machines.

  • @cwhuffman01
    @cwhuffman01 4 года назад +5

    In the words of an old co worker for 2:34, "just dont turn the spindle on with it in it."

  • @csufjeff
    @csufjeff 4 года назад

    Thanks Y'all....I am starting with cnc machining and there is about a 50% crash on each new design...You made me giggle and get back out to the machine...Cheers Jeff

  • @FourIntoOne
    @FourIntoOne 3 года назад

    Man, this looks like a resume of my week.

  • @MaraD98
    @MaraD98 4 года назад +3

    Now I feel human again. I'm glad I'm not the only one keeping Lakeshore Carbide in business selling replacement cutters.

  • @aksting
    @aksting 4 года назад +3

    This was harder to watch than a scary movie at night when I'm by myself.

  • @maxuabo
    @maxuabo 2 года назад

    Love the nonchalant raw brut force of cnc crashes. It’s like the pinnacle of comedy for me

  • @joshwhite9822
    @joshwhite9822 3 года назад

    My personal favourite thing about cnc machines is the "hey catch this for me would you" moment just as the work piece comes free from the fixturing

  • @jirizhanel795
    @jirizhanel795 4 года назад +17

    Worst thing, getting that carbide out of your part.

    • @bodyno3158
      @bodyno3158 4 года назад

      Worse thing than worst thing: getting carbide out of your part, I mean, body part.

    • @leftyeh6495
      @leftyeh6495 4 года назад +5

      Getting what carbide out? 99% of the time the part is totaled. Fuck-it-bucket and start from the beginning. Fixing the issue that broke the tool is recommended.

    • @TomoHawKzZ
      @TomoHawKzZ 4 года назад

      *getting the tap out of your part

  • @Mint_drake
    @Mint_drake 4 года назад +22

    3:51
    this is why we have "distance to go."

  • @pneumatic00
    @pneumatic00 4 года назад +2

    The spindicator @ 2:40 cracked me up!

  • @pesterenan
    @pesterenan 4 года назад +3

    My favorite one is still the Haimer tip that goes full orbital velocity hahahaha

  • @SuicideNeil
    @SuicideNeil 4 года назад +11

    Feeds & Speeds- as fast as she'll go & as much as she'll suffer...
    This was painful to watch, and listen to- I was grimacing the whole time.

    • @michaelkaba7481
      @michaelkaba7481 4 года назад +2

      Exactly, courtesy of a production supervisor hell bent on making it to the next corporate rung.

  • @VVDCS
    @VVDCS 4 года назад

    Thanks for making me feel human again, good luck out there and may your offsets never be backward!

  • @andytilley7205
    @andytilley7205 3 года назад +2

    I watched a lot of fail vids, NEVER have I winced or grabbed my face so much in one time than this. As an engineer, watching all those poor DTI's smack into billets was just excruciatingly painful and with every nasty breakage or tool seize, I just howled NO NOOOO...

  • @jesseregalski1664
    @jesseregalski1664 4 года назад +3

    Hey guys, just wanted to say I loved the video. I'm kind of just starting machining and working my way to cncs it's good to know that even people with years more experience can make mistakes and that it happens. Thank you guys for putting up quality videos for people to watch, as they have helped me learn a lot. Thanks again keep doing what your doing!

    • @pauliepaul3697
      @pauliepaul3697 Год назад

      By the looks of things i don't think they had any experience 🤔

  • @garageworker
    @garageworker 4 года назад +23

    This video is giving me anxiety, I keep reaching for the emergency stop.

  • @glenndwyer5786
    @glenndwyer5786 3 года назад

    Love how you put your mistakes out there. We all do it. Only those who have nothing to hide show it

  • @accountshanahan
    @accountshanahan 4 года назад

    Man, some of these are hard to watch! I though uncle bumbelfuck was a hack job with his Hass but you guys smash up your fair share of stuff also! Love your channel

  • @Xendrius
    @Xendrius 3 года назад +10

    Most of these seem to be the result of too high speeds.

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 года назад +3

      Not really. There were a couple of enthusiastic cuts, but otherwise not.

  • @10-AMPM-01
    @10-AMPM-01 4 года назад +3

    This is some ass clenching horror. Forget Friday the 13th and Jason. This is the ultimate fear response.

  • @AnyFactor
    @AnyFactor 3 года назад +1

    Plunges in the zeroing tool with full force!!😂😂😂

  • @BrianAchterberg928
    @BrianAchterberg928 3 года назад +2

    3:20 “I lied, I picked the wrong hole.”
    The only time you’ll ever hear a man say that. 😆😜😆

    • @asakayosapro
      @asakayosapro 3 года назад

      _"...I didn't say 'stop'...."_
      MonaLisa.jpg

  • @CurtVanFilipowski
    @CurtVanFilipowski 4 года назад +5

    Anytime you can make an endmill emit light I'm impressed!

    • @bigjohn2810
      @bigjohn2810 3 года назад

      LMAO, I haven't heard the one before

  • @petint
    @petint 4 года назад +3

    In the dawn of time when I invented the CNC machine and sent it to the future, I implemented an E-stop button.
    Well, I sure am glad that I did!

  • @MRR-qv3bw
    @MRR-qv3bw 2 года назад

    This video literally made my blood pressure go up😂😂😂

  • @Mozeyzey
    @Mozeyzey 3 года назад

    the most entertaining cnc video ever!!!!!!!

  • @kraftrad7840
    @kraftrad7840 4 года назад +12

    I feel pain when watching. Earlier, I was laughing on others, till I made a stupid crash myself

    • @surturrising7021
      @surturrising7021 3 года назад

      I'm watching this during lunch break to cheer me up because not 3 hours ago me and my boss (I'm an apprentice so he oversees everything i do) took a 1.5mm deep cut into the vice.
      "that's awfully close to the vise, are we sure it has enough clearance?" i said, but after finishing the phrase sparks instantly started flying

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 4 года назад +25

    6:25 was probably my favorite.

  • @dylannesbitt8062
    @dylannesbitt8062 3 дня назад

    @0:50 had me dying! "Why tool 32 wtf!!" 😂😂😂

  • @ReformedSooner24
    @ReformedSooner24 2 года назад

    I love how some of these are just the tools saying “nope” and just safely breaking.

  • @urgamecshk
    @urgamecshk 4 года назад +8

    From a LEAN perspective, why so many issues with dovetail work holding? Is it time for a mandatory torque wrench?

    • @mgmjferg89
      @mgmjferg89 4 года назад

      It appears a dedicated torque wrench is absolutely needed. I used a Seekonk on my Lang self centering vises (umc750ss) and as long as the material is square and you got that thing to click you were good.