@@allanm2064also, the video popped up right when he opened the app and I’m pretty sure tiktok opens to your follows page which means Oz follows Taj Maroni on tiktok 😂
@@ArmedandDangerous918 I actually haven’t heard of Agatha perhaps I’ll check it out . But I didn’t exactly mean The Penguin was a 5 out of 5 star perfect show , I mean out of 5 episodes so far I thoroughly enjoy and am satisfied with all 5.
I agree. It would have been more believable if she suddenly realized what Penguin was going to do and started shouting, No no no or something and telling her men not to shoot and then Penguin threw the lighter anyway.
Penguin has now killed Sophia’s brother and Salvatore’s wife and son. It only makes sense that one of them will find out about Oz’s mother and go after her. He seems to be trusting Victor to help protect her so if something happens to Penguins mother, I can see him blaming everything on Victor.
Squid is going to blow Vic's spot up and lead Sofia & Sal right to Oz's mom. i think Vic will go full villain on Squid after that to complete his character arc.
Reeves is nailing the personalities of the villains. Batman villains are so damaged and unique from one another it’s amazing to see it portrayed and perfected. I’m so excited about everything when it comes to all things Reeves is doing with the Batman.
I feel like she just brought Johnny to the meeting as a live demonstration of her pitch. It's like a PowerPointwith scattered brains instead of boring slides.
I liked the batman but i cant get into this show. The acting is ok i love colin as the penguin but the story just doesnt do it for me. Im trying but it doesnt pull me in. I guess its just not for me
I'm loving the show and this episode was awesome. I'm loving the Sofia character and about the time she ice Vtti, and oh man that scene when Penguin lit the marrone's on fire was brutal.
Excerpt from ChatGPT “ • The Commentator thrives on spectacle, much like Campea’s real-life devotion to the cinematic arts. However, this villain perceives Gotham as the ultimate blockbuster-a gritty crime epic waiting to be filmed, critiqued, and manipulated. • By framing every conflict as part of a grand narrative, he treats Batman’s crusade against crime as merely the latest season of a long-running series, offering weekly breakdowns with “spoilers” that anticipate Batman’s next moves. • Imagine the theatricality: he doesn’t just record his rants from a hidden studio but stages them from iconic Gotham locations-the rooftops of Wayne Enterprises, the desecrated halls of Arkham, even the Bat-Signal itself. Every broadcast is a film noir masterpiece “
“ The Commentator stands as a villain who, in many ways, is the culmination of Batman’s fears: a nemesis not of brute force or madness, but of public opinion. • If Ra’s al Ghul represents the ruthless logic of a “greater good” and Joker embodies pure chaos, The Commentator represents the mercurial, fickle nature of Gotham’s populace itself. He’s not interested in ending Batman but in reviewing him-forever turning the moral complexities of crime-fighting into debatable gray areas. “
From most of the comics and other things, we know that the usual renditions of the penguin, he runs the underground. Not just figuratively, as in crime, but physicaly. And I love how this episode toward the end gives us how in this itteration that becomes a thing.
It depends more what message they’re trying to convey with Vic’s character. He’ll either run away like he was planning on doing in episode 3, get killed by Oz for screwing up big time or betraying him, or he’ll stick with Oz and become his right hand man, and he’ll be a reflection of Oz, and how Gotham can twist a man.
Just watched ep 5 and wow this show is so so great, everyone is totally killing it even the actors with small roles , Colin is awesome his performance is phenomenal with that amazing makeup really helps but Cristin Miloti is amazing , she is so convincing If you didn't guess I am loving Penguin .
Couple of things 1.Micheal Kelly was amazing as Johnny Viti I thought he was gonna be the Black Mask, but Sofia dosent mess around💯💯💯 2. The Penguin setting the maronis ablaze was just amazing classic Penguin. 3. I’m loving the subplot for Victor and his side of the story getting some action. This show is still crushing it rn idk how much more they got in their arsenal but I’m excited for it.
Incredibly atmospheric with fantastic casting and the cast giving 100% Thank goodness for Matt Reeves and his team putting their thoughtful spin on The Batman and The Penguin. Looking forward to the future !!! 🎉
That shot in the head scene reminded me of the animated movie Red Hood when he decapitated the head of the main bosses to get the respect of the other people.
Like I said last week, this is the Greatest Comic Book Show since Batman the Animated Series. However, I'm gonna echo Mr. Campia and say this series is so great I don't consider it a comic book show anymore. It's among the greatest crime dramas ever produced. Coppola, Scorsese, Tarantino, De Palma, and Mann would all have their mouths on their laps watching this show.
We get to see oz's dark side. He had no qualm, he has an ego, he doesn't put up with shit from other people, he's calculated, cautious and ruthless when it needs to be. We get to see how far he's willing to go. Sal Moroni will be out. Only sophia and oz remains. Either they join forces or he outsmarts her at the end.
Also Max is back baby! The penguin.. the last of us.. house of dragon. I love their platform and I’m currently rewatching game of thrones. What a time to be alive
I can’t believe John didn’t mention this. This episode overtly tipped their hand as to who wins in the end. The Penguin. The fact that he fatefully discovers that token that leads to his new underground lair means he will now have the upper hand in making and distributing the new drug. Game over.
Again. Like everything week, Arguably my favorite episode. For sure second favorite, if not. I loved the cop from the movie, was in this episode. I loved them blasting everyone, in the background, in the tattoo shop while the son has no idea 'cause of the headphones. Penguin setting the falcons on fire. Wow yeah i didn't think they'd show it. Right choice to do so & the shot of Penguin as ge watches, was great. Then the ending i loved that ending. Its my favorite ending so of all the episodes so far. Another great episode and yeah... Only 3 episodes left 💔
Not a fan of the way he set them on fire. It looked awkward. First off, you can smell gasoline. So the moment he came near her, she should have picked up on the scent. Second, they were just awkwardly standing there while people were shooting at each other. You would think she would atleast remove the tape on his mouth. I dont know, i wasnt a fan of the way that sequence of events were executed
@@JohnnyJustice777 Yeah it was a little awkward for me too. Not the standing there while people are shooting. His feet were tied. Couldn't run if he wanted to. & He gasoline thing, well the thing is, I have no idea if it even was gasoline. They didn't say, unless I missed it. But was a little awkward to me, was how the mom just stood there, holder onto his arm, struggling to pull him. It's like. What is tugging on his arm supposed to do? & Why didn't you let go? It came off like she just stood there at took it too, ha like... Okay then.
I don’t think Victors survives past this series. I’m not saying he won’t make it past season one, but for however long this series goes, my gut tells me Victor won’t make it past the series finale. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Oz that off’s him, because like Campea mentioned, Penguin at his core is a low down dirty evil slimeball. I think it’s safe to say that the majority of viewers like Victor and feel sorry for him in a way, and what better way to magnify Penguin’s “evilness” than to have him murder Victor at some point down the line. Another thing I want to add: in my opinion, Penguin’s ceiling is as an underworld crime boss (like Kingpin in Marvel). I don’t think he’ll ever be the main villain in any of “The Batman” verse movies. He’ll more likely be pushing the buttons behind the scenes and ruling the criminal underworld while Batman is entangled with more crazed/more physically powerful villains. Don’t get me wrong, the Penguin’s presence will still be very important in “The Batman” movies, with his character peaking probably in the 3rd movie. And let me throw this notion in just for fun: Collin Ferrell might end up winning an Emmy and an Oscar at some point for playing the same character.
I think it's cool that they cast Mark Strong and Clancy Brown as Carmine Falcone and Sal Maroni respectively as they are both well known for playing other DC villains. (Although it's a shame they couldn't get John Turturro back)
After Sofia being betrayed by Oz and her family there was nothing that Viti could have done or said that wouldn't have ended with a bullet in his head.
What I love about this show is that there are no good guys lol the show does a great job of making the viewers choose between villains lol the only innocent in the entire show is Oz mom, the character building is awesome the story itself is awesome just a great show this new DC movement is definitely going in the right direction ✌🏾
10:17 I hope Maroni does make it out. I'm a big fan of Clancy Brown's work. I first saw him as the terrifying/sardonic Kurgan in Highlander 1986 and he kind of stole the show a bit. Very good at playing the villain. Brown was in an admittedly brief but interesting role as a calculating subtle schemer in Avatar: The Last Airbender season 2. It'd be nice to see him get more recognition in a big budget mainstream film like The Batman 2. I know Clancy Brown is 65 and been in John Wick and the Dexter spinoff but I'd be oddly interested in seeing Batman fight Mr. Krabs.
and oz and his bodyguard had no problems at all with the ambush. A bit too easy and forced for the plot to move in a direction. I mean tiktok is a thing in gotham? okay lets kidnap the son no one ever mentioned before and put gasoline all over him, no one is gonna notice as an crime boss. surely they brought full force backup but nope - 2 people gonna kill them all. Just so maroni is reeeaaally pissed and Giganten can make the next move to build up a (final) showdown.. i mean episode 5 was still good but not as great as the others. The bar is very high with this show. I'd give episode 5 a 7/10. Overall i'd say 9/10.
It’s gotten to the point where it’s a bit silly for this to be the “penguin” from “The Batman” all this inanse criminal activity, and not one mention of Batman. Not saying we need twilight boy to show up, but at least a mention? The Batman movie made you think criminals were scared at night when the light was in the sky. This feels like it’s not in the same world at all
That's my only problem with the show. 5 episodes in and no mention or sight of the Batman who Penguin has had direct contact with and is the reason his former boss went down. I know it's its own thing but that's rediculous.
@@l8on675batman not appearing kind of makes sense, since his actions basically inspired the wrong people and led to the flooding of Gotham. So he has to change his approach. But yeah, a mention of the character( don't even have to say his name, all they had to do is refer to him as "he") would have been nice. All I remember are some subtle mentions like in the first episode, where he burns the body just before sunrise
Don’t care. They wrote an enjoyable story and slapped a coat of DC paint on it. It’s been said over and over and over again in interviews that Batman isn’t gonna be in the series. If you can’t overcome it by now then all I can say is I’m sorry it’s keeping you from enjoying the show.
Batman is a goofy character mentioning him will take away from the seriousness of the show. A serious mob show and you mentioned a guy in a batsuit fighting crime?
Calling it now that they’re saving a Batman cameo for the final episode and it’s going to completely break the internet. They’d be so foolish not to at least have him make a brief appearance.
At first I didn’t think they would do it, but after what happened in Episode 4 and continuing with 5, I have a hard time believing Batman would ignore this news without heavy investigations
Tired of everyone interested in Vic's fate and the amount of screentime he gets compared to the Falcone family. Now Vic and the mom are all that is left. It would have been nice if there were a few additional characters that are not cannon fodder.
It just doesn’t feel immersive. I mean the show is great but you are telling me the whole falcone family is wiped out under suspicious circumstances along with half of the maroni family and batman still won’t show up to see what’s going on is ridiculous. It feels like the batman doesn’t exist in this Gotham. They haven’t even mentioned him in the show. Not sure even a single goon says something along the lines of what if the batman shows up lmao
With Colin saying he's in for one season of the show, I'd like the curveball of Penguin being taken out by Sofia. We got Penguin in Batman and I don't know if there's a need for more.
I'm loving the show but the fact that there is no mention of Batman at all is a bit annoying. There is enough happening on the show that would bring it to the attention of Batman and Gordon. And it isn't as if the city isn't functional. It seems the worst of the flooding has now been dealt with. Also, in all honesty, I don't know why anyone thinks Sofia or Maroni will make it past this season. The whole point of the show is The Penguin's rise to the top, and anyone who reads Batman comics knows that Falcones and Maronis type of gangsters die off and the freaks take over Gotham. At best, Sofia will land back in Arkham, but I don't see her making it past the season. Vic can either go down the path of becoming a villain himself, or will get killed.
Completely agree on that first part, Batman needs to be mentioned. The show is incredible but without any mention of Batman I often forget I’m watching a Batman show, and that’s not a good thing
@@KM-tv5kmthe show takes place like a week after the movie at the Batman which is an not a seasoned vet yet and has a lot of training physically and mentally to do especially at the end of the movie and also Gotham is crime ridden to the max post-flood wall bombing so it’s also likely Batman can’t even keep up with mafia wars
@@CNDYFLIP trust me I get all that and I can agree, but we also have to mention that Oz had numerous run-ins with Batman in the film, it would make sense for his name to be at least mentioned given their history
My least favorite episode thus far. To be fair, though… that last episode is a very, very tough act to follow. A few great scenes though like the tattoo parlor and the “cooked” scene. Both great, but it was all over the place. Narratively and tonally. Either way, Still an AMAZING show thus far!
Maroni? More like moroni. Thats one of the downsides i see with the show. Maronis kind of got the short end of the stick and they are supposed to be this big crime family and then the heir of the family just posts his location on tiktok
I was told that ep 5 was the worst out of the hole show and 6,7,8 increasingly get better compared to ep 4 but idek how that’s possible it was rated a 9.5 ep 8 about to be a 10/10 at this rate!!
This is the episode that made me realize this just isn't a high quality show. Nadia Maroni just letting herself burn as well when her son got lit on fire... The Maronis letting Oz get away and missing all their shots... Sal Maroni somehow escaping prison because the guard had keys... Oz somehow knowing about the abandoned underground area that Bruce uses... and the generator still working... ok this is just a show where writers handwave things away to make the plot proceed. it should've been obvious in episode 2 when Oz successfully planted the knife but yeah
Oz literally said he grew up playing in the trolley tunnels. Pay attention. We also don’t know if the trolley tunnels connect to the subway tunnels. the episode ended with the generator failing. Pay attention Is it that unbelievable that Nadia would rather die with her son than let him burn alone? They literally showed how oz outmaneuvered Nadia’s trap by dousing taj in gasoline and gagging him, what’s so hard to understand
@@stacysmom9926 Oz literally explaining that he knew about the trolley tunnels right as he shows them doesn't explain anything. It should've been a detail planted in an earlier episode. Then Maroni just saying that he escaped the prison because he took the keys from that one guard... just completely unbelievable. Nadia somehow deciding to die instead of shooting at the guy who killed her son makes no sense. The guys all missing Oz and letting him get away after pulling a stunt like that is just plot armour. Oz knew they were going to be looking for the knifer the moment he did it, and yet waited until the very last moment to plant it. So incredibly risky a plan that he got lucky succeeding at. What was he going to do if they searched him before sending everyone into that room where he ended up planting it? He also had 0 control over who he'd have physical access to in that mini scuffle, so it couldn't have been planned very precisely.
Yeah them just being lit on fire was sloppy there, I would have liked to at least see them make the effort to move out of the way. But I saw it as her accepting defeat, because her plan was flipped on it's head. Ep2. Oz planting the knife was a spontaneous action. The suspense, and point of the scene is to say "Uh oh, Oz is in trouble here". Oz doesn't need to be a genius and good at everything, sometimes he will get caught, or make a play that saves his life. I'm thinking how Sal Maroni got out of prison will be explained later, maybe? Not sure how anyone in there right mind would think "oh yeah he has the keys though" is a legit synopsis of what happened :D Oz knowing about the tunnels is explained immediately in this Ep., so I'm fine with that.
I've asked a few of my friends if it was me or is the show just, not good, one specifically confirmed the feeling and said he agrees. We ARE in the minority. Most people like it or love it....I feel like it's a mass delusion. Non of the supporting cast remotely come across as menacing or even mafiosi. Too many convienances. Some parts feel shot in "The Batman" universe, some don't and give "Gotham" vibes. Ok at best.
Oz pulling up TikTok on his phone to find someone from the Maronis to kidnap is hilarious. 😂
Yes!! So this means he had to keep refreshing his page for god knows how long to find this shit. Lol I just think that’s funny : ozz surfing tic toc 😆
@@allanm2064also, the video popped up right when he opened the app and I’m pretty sure tiktok opens to your follows page which means Oz follows Taj Maroni on tiktok 😂
Not even a minute in and an ad, brilliant
Episode 5 of The Penguin was great 👍. Looking forward to episode 6.
I could keep watching this series for 20 episodes. It’s been so good.
If it's 20ep, it wouldn't be this good.
The Penguin is 5/5 for me . Even better than I had hoped it would be.
@@ArmedandDangerous918 I actually haven’t heard of Agatha perhaps I’ll check it out . But I didn’t exactly mean The Penguin was a 5 out of 5 star perfect show , I mean out of 5 episodes so far I thoroughly enjoy and am satisfied with all 5.
Gets better and better
this show has transcended The Batman universe to stand on its own
See Disney? All we asking is a well written well shot show. Simple. Penguin is 5/5
Sofia brought a whole new meaning to the term “blood money”.
I didn't expect her to do that to that dude!! I was like 😮😮😮😮😮!
another epic episode, the only flaw for me was that nadia couldn't smell the fuel on Taj as soon as he got close to her. I want sofia forever!
I agree. It would have been more believable if she suddenly realized what Penguin was going to do and started shouting, No no no or something and telling her men not to shoot and then Penguin threw the lighter anyway.
That and the penguin and his henchman winning the ambush shootout
With all the falcones getting massacred, that should've caught the attention of batsy lol
Oz also told a 2nd "Rex Calabrese" story in episode 5, which got me thinking, is it possible that Calabrese is actually Oz's father?
That’s what I’m thinking
Makes sense, since his mother says he has great ambitions like his father. Plus, how else would a 14 year old know about a mafia don?
She gave Johnny Viti 'the kiss of death' a few moments before she killed him. Even before he started arguing her. She knew what she was doing.
Penguin has now killed Sophia’s brother and Salvatore’s wife and son. It only makes sense that one of them will find out about Oz’s mother and go after her. He seems to be trusting Victor to help protect her so if something happens to Penguins mother, I can see him blaming everything on Victor.
Squid is going to blow Vic's spot up and lead Sofia & Sal right to Oz's mom. i think Vic will go full villain on Squid after that to complete his character arc.
Reeves is nailing the personalities of the villains. Batman villains are so damaged and unique from one another it’s amazing to see it portrayed and perfected. I’m so excited about everything when it comes to all things Reeves is doing with the Batman.
Episode 5 10/10
I agree 💯👍
I feel like she just brought Johnny to the meeting as a live demonstration of her pitch. It's like a PowerPointwith scattered brains instead of boring slides.
I think the show is gonna end with oz saying to Vick. Sorry kid and shooting him!
As someone who was not that impressed with "The Batman" (it's not a bad movie, but I wasn't blown away), it's amazing how much I'm enjoying this show.
I’m glad it’s enjoyable for both Batman fans and just the solo show! :) let’s fu**in go, oz!
I liked the batman but i cant get into this show. The acting is ok i love colin as the penguin but the story just doesnt do it for me. Im trying but it doesnt pull me in. I guess its just not for me
I'm loving the show and this episode was awesome. I'm loving the Sofia character and about the time she ice Vtti, and oh man that scene when Penguin lit the marrone's on fire was brutal.
I think John Campea would fit right in Batman’s rogues gallery
Excerpt from ChatGPT
“
• The Commentator thrives on spectacle, much like Campea’s real-life devotion to the cinematic arts. However, this villain perceives Gotham as the ultimate blockbuster-a gritty crime epic waiting to be filmed, critiqued, and manipulated.
• By framing every conflict as part of a grand narrative, he treats Batman’s crusade against crime as merely the latest season of a long-running series, offering weekly breakdowns with “spoilers” that anticipate Batman’s next moves.
• Imagine the theatricality: he doesn’t just record his rants from a hidden studio but stages them from iconic Gotham locations-the rooftops of Wayne Enterprises, the desecrated halls of Arkham, even the Bat-Signal itself. Every broadcast is a film noir masterpiece
“
“
The Commentator stands as a villain who, in many ways, is the culmination of Batman’s fears: a nemesis not of brute force or madness, but of public opinion.
• If Ra’s al Ghul represents the ruthless logic of a “greater good” and Joker embodies pure chaos, The Commentator represents the mercurial, fickle nature of Gotham’s populace itself. He’s not interested in ending Batman but in reviewing him-forever turning the moral complexities of crime-fighting into debatable gray areas.
“
From most of the comics and other things, we know that the usual renditions of the penguin, he runs the underground. Not just figuratively, as in crime, but physicaly. And I love how this episode toward the end gives us how in this itteration that becomes a thing.
I can understand it’s increasing viewership every week. This is the best comic book tv show I’ve seen !
I could see it ending with Oz killing Vic, just to complete his transformation into the villain of the piece.
I don’t see him killing Vic. He likes Vic. And he needs people working for him. I don’t think it’s gonna happen.
@@Victor-s6i8lAnd that’s the point, they kill him to portray him as even more evil. Killing someone he likes. He’s already had a gun to his head
@@andyfreeman3359 I only see him killing Vic if Vic screws up in some big way. I don’t see it happening just because
It depends more what message they’re trying to convey with Vic’s character. He’ll either run away like he was planning on doing in episode 3, get killed by Oz for screwing up big time or betraying him, or he’ll stick with Oz and become his right hand man, and he’ll be a reflection of Oz, and how Gotham can twist a man.
I hope not.
Just watched ep 5 and wow this show is so so great, everyone is totally killing it even the actors with small roles , Colin is awesome his performance is phenomenal with that amazing makeup really helps but Cristin Miloti is amazing , she is so convincing If you didn't guess I am loving Penguin .
I can’t wait to see what happens next! Too bad it’s a limited series, and there are only 3 episodes left. Lovin’ it!!!
Brilliant episode. Best of the series to date
Couple of things
1.Micheal Kelly was amazing as Johnny Viti I thought he was gonna be the Black Mask, but Sofia dosent mess around💯💯💯
2. The Penguin setting the maronis ablaze was just amazing classic Penguin.
3. I’m loving the subplot for Victor and his side of the story getting some action. This show is still crushing it rn idk how much more they got in their arsenal but I’m excited for it.
Sofia kissing vitti on the head is the kiss of death similar to how Michael Corleone kissing fredo
What if Sophia is sent back to Arkham at the end?
Incredibly atmospheric with fantastic casting and the cast giving 100% Thank goodness for Matt Reeves and his team putting their thoughtful spin on The Batman and The Penguin. Looking forward to the future !!! 🎉
I kept saying to myself “I don’t want this to end!”
That shot in the head scene reminded me of the animated movie Red Hood when he decapitated the head of the main bosses to get the respect of the other people.
TEAM SOFIA HERE!!!!
Sofia is Catwomans sister....
Take a shot every time John says "Lest"
Like I said last week, this is the Greatest Comic Book Show since Batman the Animated Series. However, I'm gonna echo Mr. Campia and say this series is so great I don't consider it a comic book show anymore. It's among the greatest crime dramas ever produced. Coppola, Scorsese, Tarantino, De Palma, and Mann would all have their mouths on their laps watching this show.
We get to see oz's dark side. He had no qualm, he has an ego, he doesn't put up with shit from other people, he's calculated, cautious and ruthless when it needs to be.
We get to see how far he's willing to go.
Sal Moroni will be out. Only sophia and oz remains. Either they join forces or he outsmarts her at the end.
Love Sofia way more than Penguin in this show!! Her performance is so captivating and man she scares me.
John didn't show respect to Gigante. He must go.
Glad you’re back. Oh right, great episode.
Lets not forget Colin Farrells Penguin performance........Steller.
Also Max is back baby! The penguin.. the last of us.. house of dragon. I love their platform and I’m currently rewatching game of thrones. What a time to be alive
I think she knew she would kill him, the kiss on the head was symbolic to a kiss of death
I can’t believe John didn’t mention this. This episode overtly tipped their hand as to who wins in the end. The Penguin. The fact that he fatefully discovers that token that leads to his new underground lair means he will now have the upper hand in making and distributing the new drug. Game over.
It also means he has a whole network of escape and ambush routes throughout the city.
Again. Like everything week, Arguably my favorite episode. For sure second favorite, if not.
I loved the cop from the movie, was in this episode.
I loved them blasting everyone, in the background, in the tattoo shop while the son has no idea 'cause of the headphones.
Penguin setting the falcons on fire. Wow yeah i didn't think they'd show it. Right choice to do so & the shot of Penguin as ge watches, was great.
Then the ending i loved that ending. Its my favorite ending so of all the episodes so far.
Another great episode and yeah... Only 3 episodes left 💔
Not a fan of the way he set them on fire. It looked awkward. First off, you can smell gasoline. So the moment he came near her, she should have picked up on the scent. Second, they were just awkwardly standing there while people were shooting at each other. You would think she would atleast remove the tape on his mouth. I dont know, i wasnt a fan of the way that sequence of events were executed
@@JohnnyJustice777 Yeah it was a little awkward for me too.
Not the standing there while people are shooting. His feet were tied. Couldn't run if he wanted to.
& He gasoline thing, well the thing is, I have no idea if it even was gasoline. They didn't say, unless I missed it.
But was a little awkward to me, was how the mom just stood there, holder onto his arm, struggling to pull him. It's like. What is tugging on his arm supposed to do? & Why didn't you let go? It came off like she just stood there at took it too, ha like... Okay then.
@@HiMyNameIsChickaChickaJakeJakethat's what I meant. The mom awkwardly standing there.
I don’t think Victors survives past this series. I’m not saying he won’t make it past season one, but for however long this series goes, my gut tells me Victor won’t make it past the series finale. And I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Oz that off’s him, because like Campea mentioned, Penguin at his core is a low down dirty evil slimeball. I think it’s safe to say that the majority of viewers like Victor and feel sorry for him in a way, and what better way to magnify Penguin’s “evilness” than to have him murder Victor at some point down the line.
Another thing I want to add: in my opinion, Penguin’s ceiling is as an underworld crime boss (like Kingpin in Marvel). I don’t think he’ll ever be the main villain in any of “The Batman” verse movies. He’ll more likely be pushing the buttons behind the scenes and ruling the criminal underworld while Batman is entangled with more crazed/more physically powerful villains. Don’t get me wrong, the Penguin’s presence will still be very important in “The Batman” movies, with his character peaking probably in the 3rd movie.
And let me throw this notion in just for fun: Collin Ferrell might end up winning an Emmy and an Oscar at some point for playing the same character.
I think it's cool that they cast Mark Strong and Clancy Brown as Carmine Falcone and Sal Maroni respectively as they are both well known for playing other DC villains. (Although it's a shame they couldn't get John Turturro back)
Im getting HBO Max for a month just for this show.
After Sofia being betrayed by Oz and her family there was nothing that Viti could have done or said that wouldn't have ended with a bullet in his head.
They should introduce killer croc in these floods
I think they will stay with the more realistic villains for this show, it feels way too realistic for that, it's more of a mob boss show
They've already said they're not doing characters like Poison Ivy, Clayface, and Killer Croc.
@@digg_7 I here you but killer croc is literary a wrestler turned gangster robbing banks just a thought 😂
@@fw7128 I've heard the finale is gonna lead into Batman 2 so it may well tease the villain who knows?
@@digg_7 for sure really they could introduce anyone
Penguin : peasant making himself king
This is what Sony’s villainverse should’ve been
Amazing show
I think Sofia ends up in Arkham again
Sofia ends up back in Arkham !?
There were a lot of wow moments
I’ll say this the more times you watch a episode the more you’ll like.
By the end of the show I believe Vic will kill someone in cold blood or maybe die
The only downside or maybe an upside since it a miniseries there wont be a season 2 but it will connect to the next Batman movie
There may be a renewal. It’s highly successful.
The previews seems like fhey know what they are doing, i hope Victor doesnt die!
I fear victors character is only there for the penguins development. His death is all part of it
You guys ALWAYS tease shit not only in your reviews but now in your titles
A Truly Dirtbag anti -hero-villian
Sofia and penguin are both bad ass. Fire on the moronis
My feelings about this episode is ditto, dude! It's the gift that keeps giving!
Here for the Penguin content like a bee to honey
What a phenomenal show ! 🎉
I really really REALLY hope they stick the landing. I would even be fine with them killing off Oz if that will avoid a crappy finale.
How did IGN give The Penguin a 5 out of 10. I don't understand it.
And then gave Agatha a bigger rating lol, bunch of clowns. 🤣 No one takes IGN seriously.
What I love about this show is that there are no good guys lol the show does a great job of making the viewers choose between villains lol the only innocent in the entire show is Oz mom, the character building is awesome the story itself is awesome just a great show this new DC movement is definitely going in the right direction ✌🏾
10:17 I hope Maroni does make it out. I'm a big fan of Clancy Brown's work. I first saw him as the terrifying/sardonic Kurgan in Highlander 1986 and he kind of stole the show a bit. Very good at playing the villain. Brown was in an admittedly brief but interesting role as a calculating subtle schemer in Avatar: The Last Airbender season 2. It'd be nice to see him get more recognition in a big budget mainstream film like The Batman 2. I know Clancy Brown is 65 and been in John Wick and the Dexter spinoff but I'd be oddly interested in seeing Batman fight Mr. Krabs.
How could Maronies wife not smell gasoline on her son?
Maybe it was something else? Good point though…
I mean, odorless flammable liquids do exist so...
Maybe it was Diddys baby oil
it didn't matter she wanted her son either way and she also stood by him knowing the fire was going for her son as they burned together.
and oz and his bodyguard had no problems at all with the ambush. A bit too easy and forced for the plot to move in a direction. I mean tiktok is a thing in gotham? okay lets kidnap the son no one ever mentioned before and put gasoline all over him, no one is gonna notice as an crime boss. surely they brought full force backup but nope - 2 people gonna kill them all. Just so maroni is reeeaaally pissed and Giganten can make the next move to build up a (final) showdown.. i mean episode 5 was still good but not as great as the others. The bar is very high with this show. I'd give episode 5 a 7/10. Overall i'd say 9/10.
There are things that has me wondering if Victor will change his last name to Szaz
the only question i have... are the Maronies made of polyester? god they burn fast
They covered the son in flammable liquid and when he hugged his mom her got her soaked in it
As I love Shogun, this show is awesome
"That was lit" hahaha timing!!!!
Oh hello there John. Thank you for noticing
Sofia has to live! No way they kill her off
Go NYY in the World Series!!!
It’s gotten to the point where it’s a bit silly for this to be the “penguin” from “The Batman” all this inanse criminal activity, and not one mention of Batman. Not saying we need twilight boy to show up, but at least a mention? The Batman movie made you think criminals were scared at night when the light was in the sky. This feels like it’s not in the same world at all
Well, considering that the deal was made just before sunrise, its kind of a subtle mention.
That's my only problem with the show. 5 episodes in and no mention or sight of the Batman who Penguin has had direct contact with and is the reason his former boss went down. I know it's its own thing but that's rediculous.
@@l8on675batman not appearing kind of makes sense, since his actions basically inspired the wrong people and led to the flooding of Gotham. So he has to change his approach. But yeah, a mention of the character( don't even have to say his name, all they had to do is refer to him as "he") would have been nice. All I remember are some subtle mentions like in the first episode, where he burns the body just before sunrise
Don’t care. They wrote an enjoyable story and slapped a coat of DC paint on it. It’s been said over and over and over again in interviews that Batman isn’t gonna be in the series. If you can’t overcome it by now then all I can say is I’m sorry it’s keeping you from enjoying the show.
Batman is a goofy character mentioning him will take away from the seriousness of the show. A serious mob show and you mentioned a guy in a batsuit fighting crime?
Calling it now that they’re saving a Batman cameo for the final episode and it’s going to completely break the internet. They’d be so foolish not to at least have him make a brief appearance.
Or at the very least, showing the Bat-Symbol
Well, Matt Reeves did say that the end of The Penguin sets right into the events of The Batman 2, so it is possible.
At first I didn’t think they would do it, but after what happened in Episode 4 and continuing with 5, I have a hard time believing Batman would ignore this news without heavy investigations
I feel like Penguin is going to kill Vic by the end of the season.
I don’t think so, but I do think Sophia is going to kill him.
Dude
@@theonewhoeatslemons1931 I predicted this a month ago when only episode 2 was released.
Do you think they will reveal vicks last name at the end of the season setting him up as Mr freeze for batman 2
Vics last name is Aguilar
He'll turn bald and turn into mr freeze. That's genius
Any possibility that Victor becomes Victor Szasz??🤔
He’s not gonna make it out alive
Tired of everyone interested in Vic's fate and the amount of screentime he gets compared to the Falcone family. Now Vic and the mom are all that is left. It would have been nice if there were a few additional characters that are not cannon fodder.
I also chose to sleep last night instead of watching lol.
Show is phenomenal but the fact that batman hasnt even been mentioned is so weird to me.
Was expecting some talk about it when the police chief and Sofia was talking. I was like, she gonna mention him, but nothing...
I’m glad he hasn’t been mentioned or referenced.
It just doesn’t feel immersive. I mean the show is great but you are telling me the whole falcone family is wiped out under suspicious circumstances along with half of the maroni family and batman still won’t show up to see what’s going on is ridiculous. It feels like the batman doesn’t exist in this Gotham. They haven’t even mentioned him in the show. Not sure even a single goon says something along the lines of what if the batman shows up lmao
@@aimansirkhot3822 The family was killed outside of Gotham
I believe batman was mentioned in the opening scene of the first episode by the news
With Colin saying he's in for one season of the show, I'd like the curveball of Penguin being taken out by Sofia. We got Penguin in Batman and I don't know if there's a need for more.
He's coming back in Part 2
I'm loving the show but the fact that there is no mention of Batman at all is a bit annoying. There is enough happening on the show that would bring it to the attention of Batman and Gordon. And it isn't as if the city isn't functional. It seems the worst of the flooding has now been dealt with.
Also, in all honesty, I don't know why anyone thinks Sofia or Maroni will make it past this season. The whole point of the show is The Penguin's rise to the top, and anyone who reads Batman comics knows that Falcones and Maronis type of gangsters die off and the freaks take over Gotham. At best, Sofia will land back in Arkham, but I don't see her making it past the season. Vic can either go down the path of becoming a villain himself, or will get killed.
Completely agree on that first part, Batman needs to be mentioned. The show is incredible but without any mention of Batman I often forget I’m watching a Batman show, and that’s not a good thing
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He doesn’t need to be mentioned. The characters can stand on their own.
@@KM-tv5kmthe show takes place like a week after the movie at the Batman which is an not a seasoned vet yet and has a lot of training physically and mentally to do especially at the end of the movie and also Gotham is crime ridden to the max post-flood wall bombing so it’s also likely Batman can’t even keep up with mafia wars
@@CNDYFLIP trust me I get all that and I can agree, but we also have to mention that Oz had numerous run-ins with Batman in the film, it would make sense for his name to be at least mentioned given their history
My least favorite episode thus far. To be fair, though… that last episode is a very, very tough act to follow. A few great scenes though like the tattoo parlor and the “cooked” scene. Both great, but it was all over the place. Narratively and tonally. Either way, Still an AMAZING show thus far!
Agreed, my least favorite episode but still a dang good show
felt like a lot of setup. Good setup but still. Now things can get going in the next episodes :)
I enjoyed it. The opening shot of the damaged Maserati was 🔥.
Why is Maroni always sitting down and not standing? Is Clancy Brown not able to walk?
He was standing when he got shanked
Maroni? More like moroni. Thats one of the downsides i see with the show. Maronis kind of got the short end of the stick and they are supposed to be this big crime family and then the heir of the family just posts his location on tiktok
I was told that ep 5 was the worst out of the hole show and 6,7,8 increasingly get better compared to ep 4 but idek how that’s possible it was rated a 9.5 ep 8 about to be a 10/10 at this rate!!
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I bet this series ends with Oz killing Vic
or sells him out hard somehow
Victor is probably gonna be Mr Freeze
Ign 5 ⭐
I loooooved episode 1-4. At episode 5 my attention started to drift away. Well, it can’t always be xmas.
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Weakest episode of the series so far. Felt rushed.
This is the episode that made me realize this just isn't a high quality show.
Nadia Maroni just letting herself burn as well when her son got lit on fire...
The Maronis letting Oz get away and missing all their shots...
Sal Maroni somehow escaping prison because the guard had keys...
Oz somehow knowing about the abandoned underground area that Bruce uses... and the generator still working...
ok this is just a show where writers handwave things away to make the plot proceed.
it should've been obvious in episode 2 when Oz successfully planted the knife but yeah
Oz literally said he grew up playing in the trolley tunnels. Pay attention. We also don’t know if the trolley tunnels connect to the subway tunnels. the episode ended with the generator failing. Pay attention
Is it that unbelievable that Nadia would rather die with her son than let him burn alone?
They literally showed how oz outmaneuvered Nadia’s trap by dousing taj in gasoline and gagging him, what’s so hard to understand
@@stacysmom9926 Oz literally explaining that he knew about the trolley tunnels right as he shows them doesn't explain anything. It should've been a detail planted in an earlier episode.
Then Maroni just saying that he escaped the prison because he took the keys from that one guard... just completely unbelievable.
Nadia somehow deciding to die instead of shooting at the guy who killed her son makes no sense. The guys all missing Oz and letting him get away after pulling a stunt like that is just plot armour.
Oz knew they were going to be looking for the knifer the moment he did it, and yet waited until the very last moment to plant it. So incredibly risky a plan that he got lucky succeeding at. What was he going to do if they searched him before sending everyone into that room where he ended up planting it? He also had 0 control over who he'd have physical access to in that mini scuffle, so it couldn't have been planned very precisely.
Yeah them just being lit on fire was sloppy there, I would have liked to at least see them make the effort to move out of the way. But I saw it as her accepting defeat, because her plan was flipped on it's head.
Ep2. Oz planting the knife was a spontaneous action. The suspense, and point of the scene is to say "Uh oh, Oz is in trouble here". Oz doesn't need to be a genius and good at everything, sometimes he will get caught, or make a play that saves his life.
I'm thinking how Sal Maroni got out of prison will be explained later, maybe? Not sure how anyone in there right mind would think "oh yeah he has the keys though" is a legit synopsis of what happened :D
Oz knowing about the tunnels is explained immediately in this Ep., so I'm fine with that.
I've asked a few of my friends if it was me or is the show just, not good, one specifically confirmed the feeling and said he agrees. We ARE in the minority. Most people like it or love it....I feel like it's a mass delusion. Non of the supporting cast remotely come across as menacing or even mafiosi. Too many convienances. Some parts feel shot in "The Batman" universe, some don't and give "Gotham" vibes. Ok at best.
The show is okay in terms of the story. What makes it standout is its performances and cinematography.
“That’s lit” was not that funny. And then he goes “were you sitting on that?”. I mean come on.
WOW. You're really flaming them in the comments, ehh 👀
@@Jamyes9909 his reaction to that comment just got me 🤷🏻♂️