BATMAN WAS A MISTAKE - Unpacking The Madness Of Bruce Wayne's "Batman" Psychosis
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- A deep dive into the lore of the #KryptonianEpic's own Dark Knight and Gotham City, exploring and unpacking the origins of the broken man who would become a well-meaning monster.
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Most of the Batman villains referenced only appear as cameos or in small roles; a good example is Harvey Dent, who is talked about constantly but never actually seen in the epic other than photos Jimmy takes of him and an extremely brief moment in Superman: The Starlight Emperor.
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Batman exists for three full years before Clark becomes Superman, and then another two before Agent Of Batman. So there was plenty of Batman hijinks that went on "off camera" so to speak; I run over all the truly important stuff here, revisiting, filling out and tying together elements from Superman: American Alien, Superman: Agent Of Batman, Batman: Deathwish, and finally Superman: For All Mankind, as well as several short Batman one-pagers.
BRUCE x CLARK TRIP BALLS AT SCARECROWCHELLA VID SOON, LET'S DO AYAHUASCA WHERE MY SHAMAN AT LET'S CLEAR THE BATS OUT THIS DAMN BELFRY
Absolutely unending psychedelic hype
An ayahuasca adventure told while on ayahuasca.
When is that coming out cause this cuts off at burning angel
Question how is the reach (that alien race that made the scarab for blue beatle) handling how their technology is being used.
@Stanley Curtis I dont think they care, because in this continuity the old man that designed the Batman armor and gadgets got fired by Waynetech and moved to Bloodhaven where he made everything the Blue Beetle would eventually find and use to save his city.
I'm choosing to believe Max is playing the role of Max Landis as a historian/conspiracy theorist in the American Alien universe.
I pull double duty as citizen of the universe and omniscient narrator but rarely namedrop when I switch :] ughhh i hope that's not too confusing
@@Uptomyknees I always saw you as a narrator before this video, when you said "Nobody knows but me" it made me think of you as a character in the universe.
Nice take on Batman, I prefer the man that decided to stop petty criminals to prevent other to go through loss like he did and find himself involved in gods affairs.
Can't wait to hear all about Clark’s and Bruce’s fear gas ayahuasca experience.
Just realized Max basically writes Superman fanfic and I can’t unsee it
I was making lunch while the stream premiered, so I'm watching it again to get the bits I missed.
I love this version of the DC universe; Everything is so nicely intertwined with clear causal relationships, and the characters are so distinct with clear, believable motivations and ways of operating. I can tell they've lived inside your head this way for years, Max.
I know everyone hated the Batman V Superman version of Batman, but I feel this kind of explanation makes that version of the character make total sense.
I did liked BvS (Ecut) and seeing a video like this 4 years after , it did made me smile from comfort. ♠ It did made sense.
16:51 When you’re so clumsy you lose Dick Grayson twice.
fuck
"Batman was a mistake. He's nothing but trash."
- Hayao Miyazaki
Remember that time Wayne Tech was going to adapt Spirited Away for western audiences and Miyazaki sent Thomas Wayne a katana with "no cuts" engraved on it?
Who?
Some of the uncomfortable truths in this video only apply to my Batman, but if you look a little closer, I think you might be alarmed to find many apply to every iteration of the Dark Knight.
I think all of the notable versions except Adam West, but that's a different genre
Wait so Bruce knew about Dick and Barbara?
Well I always argue lot of the complains about superman. I mean getting punch by Batman hurts but so does getting shot with arrows by someone who rich , in shape Kung Fu version of Bernie Sanders. I mean sometimes he tears arrows out of people and shoot them in other. That how you get an infection people. Congrat you just gave a poor mugger a horrible disease. And the whole Batman kills people because if they get arrested they will be killed for failing a Job. Same can be said if you got arrested by other superheros. I Think that just the villains faught for bad worker motivation. People going to stop working for you if you murder them over every little F up. Try POSTIVE reinforcement Ming the Mercherless. And you wouldnt be surrounded by incompetent pions that don't even have a drop of your GENIUS!!
And lot of superheros have bad guys inspire by them. Hell most of the mcu villans were created by Tony Stark. Superman in this world just happen to not have meta humans that could fight him and tear up the city
Batman just a bit grumpy then most
@@PuffPuff903 There's a reason West is Best
This take on Batman/Bruce is so interesting, and I love it.
I have had this same opinion of The Batman for YEARS! Thank you for sharing. This is my favorite episode.
The tapestry of the Kryptonia Epic is getting more and more detailed. I love it. Can't get enough of it.
Love the Miskantonic U reference, too spoky for lovecraft college you know Crane is fucked
The moment you realize Max is so obsessed and passionate about his version of Batman is because it’s a metaphor for himself and the journey he went through 😳😳😳
Your interpretation of the Joker is almost exactly the way I've always perceived him. I've always assumed he wasn't some desperate impoverished criminal driven mad by the tragedies of his life, but rather an upper middle-class suburban kid with too much time on his hands who read too much nihilistic/relativistic philosophy and grew up to be an attention seeking pseudo-intellectual performance artist trying too hard to be edgy.
Is it possible for Batman to be written as a successful hero off the bat and be compelling? A Max Landis What-If...
While I love this deconstruction of Batman that Max is giving us, it is getting old as a concept. Batman is probably the single most deconstructed hero, going back to the 80s. I think its time for Batman to be a hero again.
As much as every Batman fan loves so many of the Gotham rogues gallery..I love the fact you call them what they are..serial killers and criminals! The connection to Batman has always been there throughout the mythos BUT goddamn your version of them being there for a reason in Gotham (in ace chemicals no less) and tasting their own stash if you will just works so perfectly in a way that makes perfect sense! Your version of the joker..sorry Aaron is so perfect but I love that though this is Clark’s story you have give us a peek into Gotham a place every comic fan is equally in love and terrified off..like you said you saw a guy with a flame thrower and a jet pack the last thing you’d be saying is..wow cool!
I can’t wait for Clark and Bruce to trip some balls and realise they are not just (super) friends but brothers..Damn Max you really are killing this!!!
I hope you write the Brightburn sequels because this Batman is terrifying.
YYYYES! Perfect birthday gift, thank you!
These videos are some of the most entertaining comic book related media I've seen in decades.
One of my favorite things from manga is the long form world building and vision of the creator giving consistent themes and development to characters in a way that traditional western comic books just don't do.
This vision of DC feels like that. It's epic and encompassing and just fucking awesome.
"Hey what is that in the sky at night? Is that plane or- OH MY GOD IT'S A GUY WITH A JETPACK AND FLAMETHROWER WHAT HAPPENED TO REAL LIFE?" I'm WHEEZING, this feeling is too relatable. There's enough hovercraft that deadass I'm expecting this one to pop up for real one of these days.
I love your interpretation of these characters so much. I wish I could read all of this, it feels like invincible, in a way where consequences matter but with DC characters and it sticks true to these characters core principles. Thank you so much for the stories truly the highlight of my day!
1:57 so he's like a Dan Bilzerian that thinks that he is Elon Musk... so he's just Elon Musk without the hordes of women and parties?
Your Batman makes Frank Castle seem rational and well adjusted. Heck, I'll go as far to say that in your Gotham, he would be the more rational of the two.
Interesting. you repeat here a lot of things you said on previous videos, but it's nice to have it gathered in a single easy to understand video.
Not my favourite interpertation of Batman, but I can see how this works for your version of Superman, seeing how your entire epic is focused on the ideas of mental stability, mental illness, and the idea of contol (both controling others and self control).
I like how your version of Batman mirrors your version of Lex. Same in so many different ways, but also the complete opposite. I wonder which one of them is more sane.
I wonder how Vandal Savage (and what seemd to be hints hot Brainiac and Doomsday) fits into this entire theme, but I guess We'll see in a later date.
Anyway, more importantly: When are the produced version comming out? Seeing you talk is great, you are a great storyteller, but like the old saying go: Show, don't tell. I want to see the actual story play out :)
literally like july or august lol it's an animated feature film
@@Uptomyknees That's too long!
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Just kidding, I'm sure it will be ready when it will, and it would be awesome.
By the way, are we ever going to find out why does Zatana has access to magic? Because so far, all you gave us is "Vandal Savage found her that way"
Yeah, the whole concept of a superhero who doesn't kill is absurd. They're all too physically powerful and well equipped to be able to guarantee that the force they use isn't lethal (if not instantly then certainly within days, weeks, or months of an attack). Additionally, the situations in which they find themselves are almost always too hectic and requiring split second reactions and decisions. There's just no way someone like Batman or Spiderman could always (or even usually) avoid killing people.
Even if they didn't remember all the controversy about contact sports and concussions killing people?
One interesting point about costumed vigilantes is that since most do not kill the criminals, they end up back on the streets. Why? Because the vigilantes are not police officers. They can't testify or provide evidence, and if the police work with them, then the entire case will be thrown out because the defense team would not be able to call on Batman or Spider-Man as a witness.
Unless the criminal has an outstanding warrant, there is no way to prosecute them on whatever crimes the superhero catches them committing. Even if there is some evidence, the Joker's defense team could claim that "Batman made him do it." The Joker could say that he was being held hostage by this maniac in a demonic costume who threatens him with torture or death if he doesn't go along with the Bat's staged power fantasies.
Now, what Batman needs is his own prison where he can keep these criminals held indefinitely. That's really what Arkham Asylum should be. Unlike prison, the rules toward criminal insanity allow much greater manipulation and with his money, Bruce can influence the laws and regulations so he essentially controls the Asylum and the psychiatric evaluations of all the major criminals in the city.
Not sure if intentional or just cool coincidence but I like how ‘Bane’ is what smushing ‘Bruce Wayne’ together sounds like.
Check out "Death Of Batman"
I thought NYC was supposed to have existed in the DCU, but I always thought it was stupid for both the biggest real life cities and the biggest fictional cities to exist simultaneously. Makes more sense if for every fictional city, you replace a real life city
Yeah in my DC head-canon Metropolis would be in New York State basically replacing NYC, and Gotham would be across the river in New Jersey (with blüdhaven also in NJ)
Ooof. I'll be stuck at work when this goes live.
So happy to once again have the premiere of a Kryptonian Epic video time perfectly with my clock out from work.
Commenting to help with the algorithm (hopefully comments do anything)
This is fucking insane
Man if David Cain was able to mess up Bruce with a few words I can't imagine how messed up Cass is gonna be
I'm trying to decypher his t-shirt.
Yo, i'll pitch you an idea, a fanfic about your fanfic (it's about Bruce):
After Starlight Emperor, while Bruce is training Tim and reconnecting with Dick an assassin appears in Gotham City, a man who smells really weird wearing a red helmet .
Tim starts investigating an BAM BOOM KABOOM
IT'S JASON TODD REVIVED BY RA'S AL GHUL IN THE LAZARUS POOL (that works with kryptonian technology), HE'S LOOKING FOR VENGEANCE AGAINST BRUCE.
But he's also like an MKUltra working for an ecoterrorist organization named the league of assassins.
So Tim, Dick and Bruce have to face Bruce's past demons.
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What the fuck. I was so invested in the story that I gasped when it ended. I was not prepared, I can't wait for the next video. Fantastic work as always, I appreciate all the work you put into these!
It bugs me that Bane is no longer his own character. Like, I get the purpose behind having this personality exist but something about melding them into the same character feels wrong. Otherwise, I'm loving this story and can't wait to hear where it goes!
Epic video. Well done, everything I ever thought of Batman, you said it.
Max, have you seen (or rather heard--because it's a podcast, but uploaded to youtube) Superheroes You Should Know(that's the channel)'s about Batman's training from 10 to 30? I wonder if that alone can be made into an episodic show.
Anyway, great psychological breakdown of your Batman.
I love how this is turning out
I'd pay good money to watch James McAvoy play your Batman
Genius Max. Genius.
Love the reference to Azreals defeat with the Bane thermals
when people notice these things it's just
thank you man
@@Uptomyknees gotchu fam
Ok gotta ask one of the most common questions about batman
So the caves were there, how did he get everything there? Build a giant supercomputer setup alone?
A rotating vehicle platform?
The entire electrical system? Did he put a toilet there? Where does it go?
How insane is it that you’re going to find this all out
@@Uptomyknees I can't express enough how extatic that just made me XD
(Sidenote Im 2 for 2 on these, with my superman journalism story that saves the day question :D )
@@Jonh1138 Dead ass you’re that guy? You guessed the entire plot of freeze test run! And now you guess the third act of for all mankind!
@@Uptomyknees and I can't wait to see it + so much more!
I don't mind it for Max's storyline, but I'm getting bored of the idea that Batman unequivocally has to be violent and deranged in order to stop rapists and thieves from killin people. Max talks about how easy it is to rewrite Pepe LePew to be non-problematic, but still insists that Batman universally has to be a bone breaker sadist, instead of a guy that ties people up so thr police can get them. He's fighting criminals as a mortal person. We might as well pretend that SpiderMan is scary and bloodthirsty nopunintendo
Thank you. I'm glad someone agrees that this is a specific slant on the character but not universality applicable to most versions of him
He is universally presented as an extra-legal vigilante who attacks private citizens on the merit of his own investigations.
Spider-Man responds to emergencies. You could argue that he's scary and sadistic, and I did in my novel The Shocker: Legit. But it's the perspective of those who got themselves into it.
For Batman to show up, in every incarnation across canon including this story, all you need to know is a guy whose parents were murdered is now going to hurt you. What happens to you after that is your problem.
You can't get insured against vigilante justice. An injury, even a "minor one," could be a lifetime of debt for a criminal who would've gotten six months if they'd been arrested by normal cops.
It's so weird to think about because we love Batman and we've normalized him. But it's a fucked up idea and he's a pretty bad dude.
@@Uptomyknees All I mean is: change his actions. You suggested this morning that Pepe doesn't have to grab or kiss, and can still be a hopeless romantic. Batman doesn't gotta break fingers or anything. You can format him to only show up to emergencies too. Not that I mean for you to do this in THIS story. I still love your creativity and world building here and organic nature to the story. But it seems like "hollywood" or whatever is caught in a tailspin of trying to one up itself in terms of how Batman people can be disturbing and brutal. It's ok for Joker to just be an expensive art vandal or a bank robber. Catwoman can be a hacker instead of a dominatrix or whatever the desired evolution is. Batman doesn't have to be a story of trauma, but of a life after trauma. A life of compassion. Going from jaded rich kid to, someone who understands the pain of the streets and is helping stop other people from having that happen. He can be Black, Jewish, Asian, Irish, Latino, British, Portlandian, Greek, Moorish, Finnish, anything. Anyways, love your stuff. It's very inspiring. That sounds sarcastic but it it's not lol
@@Uptomyknees Adam West's Batman was "A fully deputized officer of the law." which is explicitly not an extra-legal vigilante.
I really like your take as far as this story goes but generally speaking (especially before DKR) Bruce Wayne is shown to be a fairly well adjusted person who found himself as he travelled the world after his parents death. Which leaves the question of if he has dealt with his grief why is he still being Batman?
... Well because the book is called Batman. I know it isn't a very satisfying answer but the "If he's Batman something is wrong with him take" can be applied to almost any hero especially those with dead loved ones.
Spider-man never dealt with the grief of uncle Ben dying, Daredevil never dealt with losing his father, Captain America can't let go of his glory days, Green Arrow is compartmentalizing his trauma from the island.
All that said I think your take fits really well in the world you've created and while there is definite merit to looking at Batman as a psychologically broken character to say "it's a fucked up idea..." is to say that superheroes, as we understand them, are a fucked up idea.
@@Uptomyknees Not to get weirdly meta but batman exists in the world he's placed in. The character has been culturally relegated to forever walk this tightrope of being a superhero but also being "dark". The character started out with a gun if I remember correctly but then he was slowly pushed to standard superhero fanfare. Then he went from being the world's greatest detective to nigh omnipotent man-God who can theoretically defeat the entire justice league and yet still struggles with the joker. He exists in one of the worst cities on earth and somehow metropolis is one of the best? Joker went from a serial killer with a clown theme to a crime lord with a clown theme to whatever you call the basically immortal super genius face-cutter we ended up with.
Batman went from superhero motivated by personal loss to brooding edgelord who "beats people up" but he doesn't have to be that and he hasn't always been .These characters ended up like this because of this ridiculous idea that batman has to be darker and edgier than anyone else. Even Frank Miller said that his version of the character (even though people started to say it was) wasn't the definitive version of batman.
As far as the motivation aspect, it seems the idea is batman as indulgence rather than obligation. Does he have to scare people? Maybe not but isnt the idea of superheroes that they fight crime to both help people and stop criminals? Does iron man do it to do the right thing or is it out of guilt? What about flash or daredevil? I'd make that argument for someone like moon knight whose loose sanity is a core aspect of his character or punisher whose response to his loss is intentionally extreme but batman doesn't have to be lumped in with that.
Being an enjoyer of Max Landis content makes it almost impossible to enjoy Marvel or DC content. Secretly, I've hoped that once you're done with American Alien/Kryptonian Epic that the Marvel Universe will get a similar treatment starring The Shocker, based off your old screenplay.
You got one! It's called The MCU!
@@Uptomyknees No that's not Max Landis content! Unless...
No, it can't be. The Shocker's just a throw-away guy in Homecoming!
(But I get what you mean - the MCU is told as a mostly coherent epic story with a beginning and end, like the Kryptonian Epic does for DC. Would still be cool, though)
As much as Max has mentioned Nightwing as his favorite hero in the past I can't help but notice a lack of him in his epic. I guess having Blue Beatle in Bludhaven negates it.
No he is just prolonging Nightwing to a specific arc
I'm sure we will see Dick’s full arc in the actual epic
@@greengorilla6325 you won’t but you will see some of it.
Max - has a wealth of interesting ideas in his lord of the ringsesque epic started with american alien, at a time when DC is starving for fresh ideas . Instead of funding these into graphic novels DC makes Gotham high.
And maybe Poison Ivy could have an army of kids? And they run a network of flower shops? And put plants in all the office buildings to make Poison Ivy stronger? As long as she is near her plants, she is much stronger. And in her own garden she is basically invincible?
I cannot describe in words how exciting these kryptonian epics are. Max for president! (of DC)
Still working to conceive the level of mad science you'd have to go to to get booted from Miskatonic 🤯
Tbh one of the reasons why I despise main continuity(mainly due to its practice) is because characters like Bruce Wayne will never be allowed to retire or die, or go through any kind of growth past the Batman. I think that artists unique interpretations of these characters should always be entertained, but in terms of the DC universe in comics it seems to have reached this bizarre "limbo" state. I use the term limbo because these characters are effectively frozen. This in turn is why your Bruce Wayne is so interesting to me. It feels so bold and new, despite the fact that all of these pieces more or less were already present.
is that Jon Hamm in the thumbnail? aka the guy who was born to play Batman?
I see him more as Ted Kord than Batman
"Batman makes mistakes, especially in his 1st two years of operation constantly."
So, one might even say that whole "Rata Alada" stuff kinda makes sense? Mr. Reeves here watching Max's Kryptonian Epic pitches for inspiration.
Ohmygod this cliffhanger though
If Gotham is in New York, where is Metropolis?
I love Lex Luthor in the Max-DCU but two other characters don't ring true to me... 1. Superman (happily) teaming up with (a killer) Edward Nygma. 2. Gordan going along with Batman out of fear. I know, it's fiction you can do whatever you want, but it just doesn't gel for me.
Gordon didnt really have a choice and again. Batman almost eliminated all organized crime
As far as ngma max's riddler is not the same as canon riddler
Max Landis is the Alex Jones of comics.
Dude, do you have pieces of scripts in front of you when you do these? Or is this all just stream of consciousness swimming in your head? If it's the latter I'm hella jealous.
Out of my memory. I have a file in my head of the Epic and I can pull what I need from it to divide it into pitches, basically.
Yeah, I really can't wait to see the fear trip. Or at least talk about it in depth.
I really like this American Alien fan fic universe. I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing some ideas adapted into the main DC universe!
Mannnnn this whole series and lore is fucking WILD
You're the only guy in 2021 that can make a head band not look dorky
Who were the 2 criminals that Batman killed?
The Mad Monk, who he shot in self-defense and was immediately triggered into a near catatonia, and an illegal immigrant chinese drug dealer who ambushed him on a dock, who he killed accidentally after they fell through a window. A tragic thing: Batman was never able to determine the name or identity of the drug dealer, despite searching for years.
@@Uptomyknees whats the deal with the mad monk? i like that the other death was that tragic so I'm curious if mad monk has that kind of pathos? also was that a point when Bruce was activly going to intercept crimes with a gun intending to kill or was it a misfire of a warning shot or something? because that has some wild implications?
Oh and could you please do a story on Poison Ivy? And a map of her garden would be cool. Maybe it could be like a labyrinth? Thanks!
This feels like a natural evolution of DC in films, a response to what Nolan did and what Snyder pretended to do. Dark Knight trilogy suggests going for the real world consequences approach? Lean into that.
So it WAS David Cain!
Loving the new hair cut, dude.
I like this narrative thread and take, but I think there's a slightly unfair demonisation of Batman being responsible for his own super-villains, wheras Superman has ALSO created his own villains by virtue of existing. I don't think it's narratively fair to place all the sins of his enemies at Batman's feet and ignore that for Clark.
I’m sorry, did he just name drop ULTRA FUCKING HUMANITE
Brilliant
I agree ... wouldn't it be awesome to have a Batman Movie (or comic) where Batman is the antagonist. Like for real and to the very end!?
I love this
Super interesting,
#cloneMaxLandis.. We need more of him
damn max you really hate batman fr :( he was so much cooler in death of superman
The Mandalorian would have been much better with a revenge plot like in Lone Wolf and Cub.
Damnnnnnnnnnn I did not expect this today and I really really need it cause I feel like shit!!!
“I always hated the speeches when I was in school, the preaching in auditoriums, the one-note message. Stuff like saying drugs are bad. It’s wrong. Drugs are fantastic.
People wouldn’t do them if they weren’t. They make you feel good, make your day brighter, give you energy--until they don’t. People hear the message that drugs are bad, that they’ll ruin your life if you do them once. And then you find out that isn’t exactly true because your friends did it and turned out okay, or you wind up trying something and you’re fine. So you try them, try them again. It isn’t a mind-shattering moment of horrible when you try that first drug. Or so I hear. It’s subtle, it creeps up on you, and you never really get a good, convincing reason to stop before it ruins your life beyond comprehension. I never went down that road, but I knew a fair number of people who did. "
Was reminded of this at minute ten describing addiction, possibly because I have an AllRoadsLeadToRome mind lately.
Question how does this Joker Relate to Batman. I mean know this Joker isn't crazy where he still effected by pain and not suicidal. We haven't really gotten that much interaction with the two. Wouldnt he break character the moment this batman breaks ever bone in his body. Also has Joker run into any other superheros.
I guess you'll see.
So you doing a reverse frank miller
Batman "snow crashed" Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon !
Jesus Max, Ok I'll go to therapy!
I want this animated
Max, for years youve been consistent that your favourite era of Batman is the late 90's no mans land, knightfall, prodigal son era and its fun that its reflected in your batman
Yep that shit is just great mythic storytelling based in great character dynamics and heavy emotions that uses the superhero framework in powerfully evolved ways. Superhero storytelling at its finest.
That era of X-Men too.
@@Uptomyknees Im 22 so I never got to experience 90’s xmen during that time but I read a lot of those back issues as a child. I still have vietnam flashbacks to the amount of pouches and guns each x character had lol. Early 2000s bendis is more of my era I guess
@@Uptomyknees we need to get you on ComicPoP’s Back Issues youtube show cause Ik they love your work over there
Can someone tell me what is up with the ending? I feel like there are references there that I am not quite getting. Is batman hallucinating due to fear toxin or is it something else?
So good it could be a moviez
Please explain the orange smoke at the end
Scarecrow Fear-gas.
See I forgot the fact Batman killed 2 criminals. Now I wanna know that story. Was it normal criminals so one of the so called “supervillains”. And if he killed these people did he disassociate himself from the event?
He considers both deaths accidents. But then, he considers all of the myriad deaths associated with The Batman projects as "accidents."
the 90s to 2000s run of asshole Batman must inform a lot of your ideas about Batman. That was my era too and I can honestly say I didn't like him much then either. The Family really helps soften the idea of Batman.
I love asshole Batman, culminating in Bruce Wayne Murderer. Just fantastic writing. Thrilling. BRUCE WAYNE FUGITIVE! Whoa. My goodness. And then when Dick was Batman and Damian was robin I checked back in, Batman International I was still onboard, but once new 52 happened I bailed.
Even tho Scott Snyder was doing some amazing work making Batman human but still a hyper bad ass but less of a weirdo meanie? I don't think I would have had my softening opinion about Bruce without the new 52. He and Grant Morrison saved the idea for me.
It seems like it's more of a takedown of the Batman concept to build up the Blue Beetle character, your idea of what Batman should be doing....like Blue Beetle is also committing crimes and indirectly killing people as well, it seems like the only difference is the sharing of technology with his city. I think the story is still incredibly interesting and I'm happy to be able to enjoy it even if I'm not a fan of this iteration of Batman.
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But also the solution?
@@clhenderson85 Yep. Also I should say: Ted kills people. Like lots of people, way more directly than Batman, especially early in his career, he's guilty of 3rd degree murders and first degree manslaughters and conspiracy and all sorts of other things. If you've read the Blue Beetle story I posted, you know that Ted is in an extremely different situation than Bruce; he's essentially trapped in a fascist military organization, so the takeover of Bludhaven is less Superhero more revolutionary.
@@Uptomyknees I did. it was pretty awesome but his situation justifies his actions more so than Batman's? It's not like Batman is actively attacking people who aren't endangering lives on a large scale.
@@clhenderson85 Oh yes he is! Batman targets every level of criminal, remember?
Batman only exists because of the wealth disparity created by Wayne Enterprises
Hey is there any kind of order we should be watching these things in? Is that important?
Would it be safe to assume that Bruce is as much a victim of The Batman as anyone else is? Because I can't help but feel, due to what you said happened at Haly's Circus, that the initial impetus to adopt Dick was genuine on Bruce's part, and that only later on(even if it were only later that day) the Batman twisted that genuine act of kindness into another weapon in his Forever-War on Crime?
Bruce is Batman's first and primary victim. You are exactly right.
I think the Nolan movies did it best Batman is suffering from PTSD
Batman is the mask he uses to protect Bruce Wayne from confronting that dark alley
Please do a review of the Snyder Cut! I so much want it to suck. I don't even know why.
This just sounds like Moon Knight lmao
Still loving all these vids, love Kane as the bodyguard, and love that this Batman is bullet proof, cause that reeeeeaaaally makes no sense to me, he has the most advanced tech on the planet, he has a space station and common place travel to and from fucking space, he has access to 4 maybe 5 types of advanced alien technology. AND A SWITCHBLADE FROM THE JOKER CAN STILL LAY HIM OUT! He's a masochist, probably saying that if it doesn't hurt its not worth it.
Minor correction: It's "Cain". David Cain.
Nyc does exist in DC tho
max just wanted to ask if the KryptonianEpic ever gets picked up as an animated series is it gonna start from american alien or will it just skip the comic and start after ?
the film I'm producing covers American Alien
@@Uptomyknees cool also do you have any interest including characters like the new gods or maybe even darkseid to the KryptonianEpic ?
@@Uptomyknees best news I've heard all day !