The Kryptonian Epic: LORE DEEP DIVE - Krypton and 🆉🅾🅳'🆂 🅼🅰🆂🆃🅴🆁🅿🅸🅴🅲🅴
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- A rough summary of KRYPTON!: ZOD'S MASTERIPIECE!, the prequel book to the Kryptonian Epic, which concerns the illegal experiments performed by scientists on an alien world. The decisions of a single small group of people ended up in disaster for the entire civilization, and left a legacy that would spread to a planet a universe away, a story that would only end hundreds of years later, in a violent confrontation between emissaries of the two worlds.
There are some details I fucked up or changed in early videos; those should already be apparent. Other things were unformed into their final shape. As of about a year and a half ago though, everything is all planned out. Still having a lot of fun with this.
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In terms of tech, my head cannon was the building, were made through "smart grown technology" programing seeds with grow houses. The architecture was "accidental Lovecraft" it only looks creepy and gothic depending on the lighting/context.
My guess is that when the Brainiac part of the pod, detached and crashed to Earth, it used someone with some crazy, HP Lovecraft belief system as its base-mind. Which, of course leads to all of Aquaman’s backstory and creation. Which I really hope we get some more info on soon.
"Green lights", "reality's basement" , we're getting multi-layered breadcrumbs here and I'm all for it
"the green lights attempted to stop the pod" "hyperpulsion developed by a kryptonian scientist"
I love that Clark is flying around with a picture of his dad's face on his costume.
In the past month, a friend and I have read American Alien, discovered the #KryptonianEpic, and binged as much of it as we can find. Your universe and understanding of Clark as a character is phenomenal. As a new fan, I can't wait to see more!
The whole entire expensive-ass Kryptonian Epic being a side effect of a Covid is one of the funniest things I have ever heard
I wish everyone who caught Covid felt biologically compelled to spend their life’s savings on an elaborate, high-quality fan fiction if their favorite childhood cartoon character
It’s fascinating how the three biggest threats in this series, Lex, Aaron/Joker and Zod are essentially ego-maniac performers who gradually buy their own act. Little Lex becomes his dream Big Lex, the parody General becomes a true despot and Joker; well that one’s self explanatory. In contrast to that, we got Clark, who fears that the more absorbed into his persona as “Superman” he gets, the more “Clark Kent” is gradually dying. It’s wonderful stuff
You're really on to something there, and I'd like to add: the four "big problem people" of the Kryptonian Epic are all in some way delusional or fundamentally wrong in their goals.
You also get to see Clark's fear realized with through Bruce Wayne.
So Vandal Savage is not a threat? I’m so confused in a wonderful way!
@@FedeCarranza It might just be me but way Zod speeks sounded a bit like how Vandal Savage speaks.
The original comment mentions Joker, Lex, and Zod. Max refers to the “four big problem people“ of The Kryptonian Epic , so who’s number four? I think it’s a pretty safe bet that it’s Vandal Savage.
I literally can’t get enough of the Kryptonian Epic.
when I was drawing and animating Zod, I would imagine Jeremy Irons portraying milo yiannopoulos.
Like Ozymandias but with none of the ethic justifications
Omfg that is perfect.
Major respect for having the balls to actually commit to kryptonians being ALIENS.
haha thank you, it was actually the turnkey decision that allowed for nearly the entire story of the epic
We aren't going anywhere Mr Max, we are all invested, very deeply I must add
So, Superman being powered by the sun is because of photosynthesis?
That's brilliant!
You come up with so many creative details, it makes this take on Superman lore like nothing else
I love how science based everyone's "powers" are, except for Zatanna, who can just do magic with no explanation.
yep
This seems like a massive piece of the puzzle that we have been given virtually no information on. I think Z involves one of The Epic’s most closely guarded twists.
@@paulwright1814 Dr Fate's logo was teased in Agent of Batman so yeah, safe to say theres shit we have no clue about. Max himself once said these pitches are like if George Martin pitched game of thrones and left out the white walkers.
I am sure Dr Allen would have loved to have a word with Jac Sur the Krytonian scientist who made the hyperdrive.
I appreciate the fact you made kryptonians genuinely alien. Especially with Superman, it is easy to fall into the trope of "Aliens are just humans from another world." Your design of them and deep dive into their way of life is compelling.
It was always a big plot hole, if they're aliens that absorb sunlight, then there is no reason for them to look remotely human.
You’re reaching Tolkien levels of backstory development. “Kryptonian myths” now??? Holy crap Max. This is amazing.
i freaking love the parallel between Jor’s child and Zod’s(doomsday). Jor made his spawn purely with love and not for show or anything but just because he cared so much about this one thing that he wanted to bring life and love to something beautiful.
while on the other hand Zod created this monster that is his own flesh and blood that is a horrifying murder machine that is only there to help Zod escape a position he put himself in. showing the difference in ideology and personality of Zod and Jor.
genius writing max, keep it up.
I freak out every single time I see a video in my feed where max talks to camera about the kryptonian epic
I am the exact type of fan you were talking about in this video! I’ve been following The Kryptonian Epic religiously since American Alien. Deep,nerd lore like this is my bread and butter. I’m trying to convert one of my good buddies, so I just bought him a copy of American Alien and sent him a selection of Kryptonian Epic videos to start him off. The recruitment begins!
Love the animated portions and can’t wait for Endangered Species but can’t imagine anything more visually stimulating than your pitching these are always my favorite
I think you understand DC better than James Gunn or anyone since Siegel and Shuster. This Epic is a story worth telling and I am happy that you love it as much as I and we do. I love every aspect of this! Thank you!
I second this wholeheartedly.
Everyone understands DC more than Gunn
I think my favorite thing about the Kryptonian Epic is you describing all these strange and foreign concepts and then there’s that “aha!” Moment where I realize what it is you’re ACTUALLY describing.
before i get started on writing, i like to smoke a lil weed, go on a walk and listen to something creatively inspirational. this is like the dozenth time in the last several years i've geared up for this ritual, opened youtube and there is a TKE video at the top of the page saying "uploaded 20 minutes ago". fucking A, Landis, you serendipitous bastard - letsgoooo!
HOLY SHIT IT JUST CLICKED, Vandel Savage has a brainiac in him
God yes, it’s 24 minutes, thank you Max!
I'm super excited to see endangered species, this has been such a fun take on dc's universe
Holy shit! wasn't expecting to get this. I now have a theory, an observation, and a question.
Theory: You once said that Bizarro was "kinda" in The Epic, and you keep explaining that the hybridization will not and cannot go the way Zod wants it to for him. And on top of that in the little you've told us about Do It Yourself (still my most anticipated video/whatever media you put it out in) via the end of the fear gas trip in Death of Batman, Zod wanted Clark's blood. So, my guess is that Zod does eventually get what he wants by being hybridized with Clark's DNA, but he's a misshapen clone.
Or Zod hybridizes with Lex and it's both characters seemingly getting what they want (to be a Superman), but they're an ugly misshapen monster version of the two of them as one.
Observation: Jax-Ur asking Jor-El if he'll have what it takes to do what's required of him when the time comes is totally like Diana asking Clark if he'll be brave enough to do what he needs to do in the end. I believe you dropped that hint in the Agent of Batman Questions Answered Livestream. Also the idea that Clark spent years obsessing over "the little green guys in the sky", is similar to those same green guys being in Kryptons sky. Both Clark and the Kryptonians wanted to go into space, but their bodies kept stopping them in some way. Love this!
Question: I know Clark is confirmed to be solar powered, but does the color of the sun matter? Or is it the fact that Clark is a Kryptonian/human and that combination of, I guess, brut animal muscle and plant solar absorption made for the effect that is "super powers" regardless of the color of the sun so long as sunlight is given to him?
The color does not matter. Clark metabolizes solar electromagnetic radiation and x-rays into an organic field around himself that both helps to power his body and gives him superhuman abilities; he can bleed the energy out through his eyes with "fire," see things on x-ray and gamma spectrums, and even fly by using the field to fling himself into the air and carry himself like with a kind of localized current.
If Zod's first murder was a reporter, I can't wait to see his reaction when he finds out what Superman's day job is
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I love everything about this. I really wonder how much the green lanterns are going to be involved once zod and the super hybrid reveal their presence on earth. Can't wait for the next update!
I've read comics my whole life. Marvel comics, never anything else. I have read a sum total of 3 DC properties. Watchmen, Dark Knight Rises, and American Alien.
I love everything about the Kryptonian Epic and am very thankful to you for sharing it with us.
Do yourself a monumental favor and read "Whatever Happened to Truth, Justice, and the American Way?", "All-Star Superman", and "Kingdom Come". Particularly All-Star Superman. It has what is unquestionably *the* most "Superman" moment of the character's entire history. Basically condensed everything beautiful about the Man of Steel into five of the most wonderful panels in comic book history.
I have so so many questions, but the big one I am left with is...
What is Jornalism like on Krypton, or media in general? It sounds like Braniac may facilitate communication but doesn't moderate it. Like, what does "the news" even look or function like there?
I love this vision of Krypton because it is actually alien, and averts the logic hole of "why don't Kryptonians en masse move to another star?".
Universally loved figure that is secretly a megalomaniac? Funny role for Denzel. I wouldn't believe it.
there is a universe where Clark Landis in a forest and he is a half-Kryptonian half wolf creature with all of Superman's powers. I love the Kryptonian Epic, can't wait for more!
Yes! Gimme gimme
And he did it all with a webcam.
The Kryptonian Epic
American Alien
I really enjoyed Clark dreaming of Krypton and mistaking it for Little Shop. That’s cute! Until it’s not.
Wonder how many humans are catching on to the parallels to their realm.
Keep crushing Max, you rock buddy.
You mentioning the one part of the ship being a mini brainiac, and how half of Clark’s ship crashed 500 years before he did, is giving awesome hints at what you’ve been hinting with Arthur. I can’t get enough of this series man it really is something special
But then how did Clark Met Zod? On The Death of Batman they reference the arctic adventure and he met Zod. How did Zod ever get to earth. He was no scientist that's for sure.
@@catslino5037 Fortress of Solitude had a Phantom Zone portal.
I love how Jor-El is apparently just as loveable as Clark. Like father like son :)
Okay, hear me out: When Clark's ship enters into our sun's field of influence, a glitch from the damage flings the Brainaic portion into a wider orbit that would have Brainiac make it to Earth's orbit a few decades into Kal-El's life on Earth.
Also, could Kryptonians still have the equivalent of a "mate" or "partner?"
I just feel Lara Lor-Van should exist in some way. Perhaps have her simply called "Lor-Van" and is one of Jor-El's closest friends?
It's always a pleasure, Max. I really appreciate you.
Well no because Clark falls to Earth 500 years after Brainiac does. Perhaps Lara exists, but I feel like making them Jor-El's partner ruins Max's truly alien conception of Kryptonians.
Oh? Green lights out in space? That sounds so similar to the green lights that stop another Kryptonian from leaving his planet...
wait so zod is like a fucked up performance artist who gets lost in the sauce like Lex/Aaron Scott? I love this story so much.
and describing the fortress of solitude as a "baby's campsite" is so delightful
This Krypton reminds me of the ET ride and that's awesome
fantastic comparison
"It's not too late for me to fire you" is such a Lex Luthor line. Parallels?
Tons but they exist to contrast each other. Zod can't see beyond himself. Lex can.
"I couldn't think of a universally liked figure"
Keanu Reeves, Brendan Fraser
Very strong parallels between Zod and Aaron!
I like how you're Aquaman, Wonder woman and Superman are all connected. Makes me wonder if "Magic" is real in this universe or is it more Kryptonian stuff?
(...it's real)
Vandal Savage said to constantine "this girl has magic, but her magic comes from the earth, where as the magic that i seek comes from the stars"
So excited for every new piece of this saga! Can't wait for future new ips as well!
Love how the most evil character in the epic isn’t even human
YES R'lyeh is a Kryptonian fortress/city ahahaha that's awesome!
I played with a somewhat similar concept in my Superman "story".
I had Krypton as a sort of Pandora but far more exciting and Met Gala looking place of weird costumes, but all things that are created are made by this symbiotic ecosystem that the Kryptonians use, this enables them also to make weapons, housing and everything else they would want.
It's when a scientist creates a being "Brainiac" that people become more tech reliant, and begin to ignore the planet and Brainiac becomes more powerful, its then the planet essentially dies or turns against them and it becomes the end of Krypton.
We had a Glassplanet online conversation but I never mentioned any of this so there is no claim of stealing here! Plus it's fanfiction so its all fun anyway.
I’m glad you like our thories max!
I have the most ridiculous one. You said that the only thing from American alien that’s no longer canon is doomsday so I’m thinking that the reason the phantom zone exists outside of time is that time is a 4th dimensional constant to a 5th dimensional being and it’s the domain of Mr Myxzptlk.
When we saw Mr myzptlk in americain alien he was in the phantom zone. He’s also the character that’s narrating all of the events happening to somone in the epic as he’s able to see 4th dimensionaly and knows events so the “ kryptonian epic” is the epic he is telling
Those green lights, I wonder what they're coming from? Some sort of Space Lanterns? Hmmmmmm
I forget, is J’onn J’onzz part of the Kryptonian Epic at all? Would love to hear your take on him
The thing about naming Zod "Darkseid" (Seed? Taxonomy of 4th dimensional consciousness corporializing as a Mr. Fancyplants?) is that it adds a whole 'nother layer of legitimacy to his brash amounts of insane, pointless evil. Darkseid isn't an "evil god", he's the "god of evil". Even his infectious aura is enough to turn Gotham into a cesspool of incurable crime. Zod, Darkseid's vessel in this reality, is evil for the sake of evil because it -must- exist
I think Kirby would be a huge fan of this interpretation, I really do. A biological flower being the avatar of anti-life is very poetic
Darkseid and Zod are different characters.
@@Uptomyknees class failed, no big belly burger for me
time to rewatch the animation! i know, so tragic
To be honest, I always preferred the fall of Krypton as an ecological disaster caused by hubris and complacency of society with dash of fall of Rome. For it to be caused by one machine going highwire makes it feel less epic (sic!). Anyway, thanks for next great video.
Global ecological disaster can't generally be caused by a single bad choice, and choice is what this epic is all about.
I'd rather have it be this then krpytonians stupidly mining their own core for energy.
I fucking love these types of videos
There are no words to explain how much I love all of your #KryptonianEpic work. Thank you! The comics of today suck but your stuff is legendary.
Nice surprise on a Tuesday morning
-KEEP PUSHING THESE OUT BROTHER.-
You don't need to apologise for loving what you love!
we love love around here
Great ending
I'm guessing those kryptonian myths about superpowered kryptonians are either because their sun was once yellow, or something natural on krypton hybridized DNA.
Question.
So, like, what's up with the Green Lantern Corps?
Babies in spacepods sent out to help build the empire, legendary, super-powered, “mythical” Kryptonians.
After all this time of DBZ cribbing from DC, we finally have some cross-pollination of Saiyen traits rubbing back off on to Kryptonians.
I really hope Lex meets Space Lex (Zod) at some point
YES! MORE KRYPTONIAN EPIC LORE!!!
I apologize for my outburst
Thank you Max, for once again sharing your incredibly talented vision/version of our favourite heros, and in such an engaging way that allows us to have fun with these kind of concepts.
I have ONE BURNING QUESTION for you ever since the Kryptonian animation came out: Aside from the obvious details you are still working on, did you have Kal-El's backstory planned up from the beginning? (Jor-el's death, Zod and brainiacs role, the plantesque Kriptonians, etc), or was something that happened much later than American Alien? If thats the case, did you have the chance to pitch this idea to DC, considering its super different from the current Superman Lore?
Awesome content my dude, thanks for keeping it up.
I had it very loosely worked out; that he was launched by mistake by a murderous idiot, etc. But the only non-canon part of American Alien is the doomsday page, as I had not clearly figured out how my doomsday worked yet.
Thank you Max! So, in a way, we the fans are interacting not only with a super awesome story in a new way (more as a pitch and a few several animated movies), but we are kinda watching LIVE your creative process, as we are watching this entire story unfold from your mind. This is a unique and awesome experience that I think I've never had with any other work of fiction, is super engaging, and it's also a unique way of consuming the lore details of a masterpiece.
Thank you for taking the time to answer my stupid questions. And KEEP UP with the excellent work!
@@dfmkjin that’s a really interesting way to put it. You’re right, it definitely makes the story so engaging and it’s probably one of the big reasons I love it so much.
I love all your ideas friend.
Absolutely Amazing!
I love this, cant wait to see more 🩷
It had me thinking that playing/creating a Kryptonian on the sims would be insaaaaane... and even though you can't fly the rocket, you gain one extra maximum basement level 🙌
Is Aquaman’s home the result, then, of the rest of the damaged pod- the part that builds the living environment- crashing into the ocean? The pool on Wonder Woman’s island was caused by an errant chunk of Kryptonite, that I get, but I wasn’t sure if Aquaman’s powers were also Kryptonian in origin or if it was just… there?
Conventional wisdom suggests it crashed into the Arctic and created the Fortress of Solitude, but… still.
The bread crumbs seemed like "Atlantis" was that fortress/ brainiac gone rogue and that auqaman was more of this hybridization process gone awry
@@torrancemoore6152 The question would be what was used to hybridize Arthur? Perhaps a monster from the phantom zone? Perhaps the Lovecraft dimension is just that
Well Aquaman's Lovecraftian city *is* in the Arctic. Maybe it and what we know as the Fortress of Solitude are one and the same?
@@catslino5037 a semi-haunting answer to this question is that the vast majority of the ocean is unexplored. There could be any number of undiscovered species that could've been used.
Another thing that comes to mind is that Arthur gets stronger the more water he's surrounded by so by definition, his peak is at the bottom of the ocean. Anything surviving that could be Lovecraftian on its own
6:50 the Phantom Zone is an elemental plane of air?
This is great, but when are you *finally* gonna finish that Elm Street TV Show Pitch
So, obviously damaged parts of the camping kit caused the underwater city and Arthur. A broken hybridizer in themyscera. How does Zod wind up in the Arctic after the phantomzone?
hmmm
There was a 500 year gap between when Clark's pod arrived in Earth's atmosphere and dumped half the payload and when he landed in Kansas. My guess is Savage was an Arctic explorer in the 1800s who stumbled across Braniac w/o its base mind ("three lights over a sea of ice" i think is how it went) and is driven crazy. Maybe Braniac tried to latch itself to Savage and it warped his mind, prolonging his life in the process.
Though that still belies whatever the crap is going on with Mercy Graves.
And, the specifics of a ghost in the machine to host brainiac better explains the animation’s Darkseid
so if a raccoon randomly wandered up to Clark’s pod before Jon and Martha found it after it landed he’d be a raccoon?
or a snek
Yes.
Have you considered the Epic as a novelization? I know there are probably way too many legal hurtles, but just take it from me… I’d read the shit out of it.
So when you said that Clark, Diana, and Arthur were a found family...
I'm curious how Shazam (Captain Marvel) Billy Batson would be like in your universe
Krypton was basically a planet of divas ran by a slightly smarter siri. Brought to complete ruination thanks to militant Instagram roleplayer Zod.
…political Twitter* role player Trump*.
All right so Clark was released from Krypton over 500 years ago. You mentioned your Wonder woman video connection to the Kryptonian technology on themsycria and the word hybridization there similar word used here when talking about what kryptonians can do with their DNA. We haven't mentioned if Aquaman has anything like that but I guess my thought here is and if you're not going to tell me you don't want to spoil it or Wonder woman and Aquaman I don't want to say failed experiments with the Kryptonian technology that made Clark what he is, but are they remnants or byproducts of incomplete or similar technology. I'm not saying they're kryptonians but I'm saying it sounds like they went through a very similar process that you mentioned kryptonians can go through.
interesting
@@Uptomyknees Interesting? Don't just say interesting am I on to something here? Lol you can't just drop that and run!
How do your Kryptonians communicate? Do they have verbal speech or are they linking telepathically? How does Clark understand Zod when they meet in the Arctic?
I guess you'll see. Also who said Zod is THERE, you know?
I hope Superman meets Zod at some point in the story.
So what I get from this is "Mass Effect by Max Landis" would be bonkers.
Awesome!
So, if American Alien took place in 2015, the year issue 1 came out, and Superman was in orbit for 500 years before that. The year Krypton collapsed was…1515. 1515 is of course the year Conquistador Diego Velázquez de Cuéllar founds Havana in modern day Cuba. Fast forward a few hundred years, Club 38 in Havana opens with the main attraction of a man nicknamed “Superman”. This man and his act would later be referenced in The Godfather Part 2. Released in 1974. 1974 was of course the year DC launched its 59 issue run of “The Superman Family”. The first issue of this comic (#164) finds Jimmy Olsen and Superman trying to best Dr. Mark Olsen from unfairly claiming a Spanish conquistador’s buried treasure by driving all the town members away. As everyone knows, Jimmy’s Father Mark would later be reincarnated and take the name of the Mayan feathered serpent god - Kukulkan (this is real). In last year’s film “Wakanda Forever”, Prince Namor is referred to by the Avatar looking people in his underwater kingdom by the same name - KUKULKAN…so am I wrong to assume A MARVEL CROSSOVER IN THE KRYPTONIAN EPIC HAS BEEN CONFIRMED?!
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three lights!
There are FOUR LIGHTS!
Right, so Clark's gonna become the basemind when he retires. Gotcha.
New question: WHY is Brainiac so anal-retentive about gene splicing? Is that an important thing or just a handwave?
The pod orbited for 500 years...Black Knight satellite?
rewatch note: green lanterns were monitoring Krypton.
Hey Max write something for jamesgunns new Dc universe.
No one with a brain is going to employ a f*cking r*pist, what's wrong with you?
if james gun had any sense he’d just give it to landis
"Doomsday is basically Zod's DNA mixed with viruses and bacteria" ... so pretty much like in Batman v Superman? #Luthorisasicksickboy
Wait, wait... five HUNDRED years?! Not millions? Not even a couple thousand? Like, I could see the payload being, like, what kickstarted the evolution of the first primates into human beings or something like that. I mean, it wouldn't be the most scientifically accurate plot point, but, it would be good enough story-wise. And it would explain Savage's abilities too, in some way.
Even then though, if you had gone with "a couple thousand years" it would have explained the Amazons and possibly the Atlantians in some way... but, what do we gain by going back only five hundred years?
Makes the plot make sense.
@@Uptomyknees I guess I'll have to wait and see, cause, currently I can't figure how.
Seems like a lot of your ideas are so vastly different from DC that you could just rename everything and it would be exclusively your IP and DC couldn't sue
so not-atlantis and the yet-to-be-seen fortess of solitude are the kryptonian adaptable nest-tech, Zod is Luthor's base mind, and the three lights that we see around vandal savage are braniac?
Luthor base mind huh?
@@Uptomyknees "it should be me" -Zod "no man should have that power [because I should have it]" -Lex Luthor both referring to Clark. The moment Lex saw the crest of the house of El he became obsessed with Clark
THEORY: Lex will kill Jimmy somewhere along the line, much like Zod did.
The parallel you found here, and can I say how incredibly happy it makes me that people you notice this stuff, actually becomes a point-counterpoint, rather than an echo or a mirror.
Lots of Zod’s story parallels what we’ve seen from Lex as well. While Lex doesn’t kill Jimmy when confronted, he similarly turns him against Superman in the way Zod turns Kryptonians against Braniac.
Oh, fuck, Brainiac is Dragon without the empathy
Why am I sending parallels between Zod & this universe’s Joker??? 👀 what’s the commentary, Boss?
There are parallels with a LOT of the characters in the epic; what's interesting are the contrasting differences. Aaron actively chooses to be The Joker, whereas Dru-Zod, generally a dumber and less thoughtful being, actually turns into GENERAL ZOD. Both of them are entertainers, but Aaron recognizes the absurdity of his actions, and that absurdity is part of his artistic message. Zod's legacy is a more hollow, and for that reason, even more dangerous enterprise.
@@Uptomyknees YES! An explanation to a nerdy lore question! I now play a small role in the journey that is the #KryptonianEpic 🙌
I hope you get to write Superman again
Curious to know what other Kryptonian characters you would have briefly shown.
Though I take it there's no Lara Lor-Van in the Kryptonian Epic?